UN Security Council in Kosovo session

PS:
1821-03-25
Greek independence from Ottoman Empire declared,

1832-03-04
Greek independence from Ottoman Empire recognised

It took years for Greeks too, but just like Ottomans were invaders in Greece, so are Serbs in Kosovo.

;) History makes mr Vuk look like a schoolgirl selling candy to babys.
Enjoy your sweet delusion.

"The minister added that the unilateral declaration of independence "cannot be a basis for the normalization of the relations between Serbs and (ethnic) Albanians, as no attempt at secession in the history of the United Nations has led to the establishment of statehood of any territory in the world".

LOL, umm Croatia Slovenia Macedonia Bosnia Montenegro Kosovo, Estonia, Slovakia, Lithuania, Latvia, Moldova,Hungary from the damn Ruski occupation, ect ect

It is sad if the Serb public is so well uninformed about the world and mr Vuk has a monopoly on stupidity...

Tadic sent Vuk for the forthcoming embarresment.

Tadic had enough last time, where our FM Skender Hyseni-new Skenderbeg sent Tadic packing much before the end of the UN session.

Next is VUK

Dino, so long as Russia is on the security council nothing will change. The meeting will have the US and GB stating that because the ICJ ruled that declaring independence is not contrary to international law, Kosovo's statehood is legitimate. The Russians and Chinese on the other hand will point out that nothing was said about the legality of Kosovo's statehood, etc. This is a stalemate. It's like two men arm wrestling locked in neutral position. The problem for the Albanian camp is that so long as Russia, China, and most importantly Serbia, continue to insist on all those not recognizing Kosovo's UDI reading the actual court judgment, it will be hard for countries to recognize Kosovo. The only way they will do this is by arm twisting and other incentives offered by powerful countries. Stalemate, stalemate, stalemate. How does one break a stalemate? Negotiate!

I have lived and worked in 3 continents and god knows how many countries. In all that time I have come across countless communties of expats from balkan countries (mostly Serbia & Croatia). In all my travels and exploits I have yet to encounter a single person from Albania and or Kosovo. Why is this? Is it because Serbs are so un-informed that they seek better prospects overseas and Albanians are so Informed that they stay in the Business Capials of the world (Pristina / Tirana).

That must be it then! Such an intellectual high society and there was me thinking otherwise. You must be proud of the achievements your country has around the world.

Thanks Dino for enlightening us to the vast intellect of your kin but must pop off now, toodlepip.

Regards

DJ..Manama, Glasgow & on occasions Novi Sad
(Mr. David J. Jones, 3 August 2010 13:06)
Or could be that someone with your overwhelming prejudices would either tend to dissociate you from anyone of the Albanian ethniticity or that you give off such vibes that they would tend to automatically dissociate themselves from you!

It is sad if the Serb public is so well uninformed about the world and mr Vuk has a monopoly on stupidity...
(dino, 3 August 2010 11:21)

Dino,

I have lived and worked in 3 continents and god knows how many countries. In all that time I have come across countless communties of expats from balkan countries (mostly Serbia & Croatia). In all my travels and exploits I have yet to encounter a single person from Albania and or Kosovo. Why is this? Is it because Serbs are so un-informed that they seek better prospects overseas and Albanians are so Informed that they stay in the Business Capials of the world (Pristina / Tirana).

That must be it then! Such an intellectual high society and there was me thinking otherwise. You must be proud of the achievements your country has around the world.

Thanks Dino for enlightening us to the vast intellect of your kin but must pop off now, toodlepip.

Regards

DJ..Manama, Glasgow & on occasions Novi Sad

Oh Albanians! Where are those new post-ICJ recognitions, hmmmm? Jeremic's early post-verdict panic comments seem to be a smokescreen. Someone should've told the 'ex'-KLA heading the temporary institutions before they brought out the champane & coke, that Belgrade likely had assurances from anti-UDI countries that they wouldn't flip even if ICJ supported UDI.

Dino, the now independent nations of the former Yugoslavia were republics, Kosovo is a province of Serbia, i.e., Serbian land, a part of Serbia, is Serbia. Do you understand the difference? Albanians can have autonomy in Kosovo, because they are now the majority population there, that has been offered. As for Jeremic, do you think you are smarter than he is, Dino? I would put my money on the Vuk.

lili - Are all those people from Kosovo?

If you are talking about Albanians who live in other countries, then you forgot the wonderful late Bekim Fehmiu who understood and suffered because of his multiculturalism and broad mind.

I am certain that many on your list would hate to be used as your nationalistic icons. Many married into other nationalities and/ or had nothing to do with Kosovo.

Where is the link? And why can't anyone see how ironic it is that a special flag was designed and yet only the flag of a neighbouring state is waved? I thought all of this was about 'independence' - strange that.

It is sad if the Serb public is so well uninformed about the world and mr Vuk has a monopoly on stupidity...
(dino, 3 August 2010 11:21)

as supposed to albanians where 80% of the woman work force cannot read or write..
You must be important man in your family...
thanks to b92 your horizons expended..

You must be proud of the achievements your country has around the world!
Indeed we are:mother teresa,ferid murati,nobel prize,anri sala art ,angelin preljocaj choregraph,belushi brothers,actors,stan dragotin and lirija begeja film ,Cana,xhemaili and some others in sport,inva mula,saimir pirgu and some others as cantators, mersini in physics, famous Pizza family group,etc etc

Besides mother Theresa, and Albanians being in the Pizza biz, I have no idea who the other Albanians you named are. They are certainly not famous to the world, as you can ask the average, let's say American, to name a famous Albanian, how many could they name? Get my point? Albanians being famous to other Albanians is not famous.

Albanians being famous to other Albanians is not famous.
(quasistate, 3 August 2010 18:15)

Well that is way better than the world knowing Milosevic was a Serb. I'll take that anyday.

The minister added that the unilateral declaration of independence "cannot be a basis for the normalization of the relations between Serbs and (ethnic) Albanians, as no attempt at secession in the history of the United Nations has led to the establishment of statehood of any territory in the world".


-- Ah here we go, Vucke lying again. Either that or he is uniformed and that's not good as a foreign minister. See how Bangladesh became independent Vuk.

Dino you funny guy you!

It would seem that your history books are missing a few chapters.

pss: "Or could be that someone with your overwhelming prejudices would either tend to dissociate you from anyone of the Albanian ethniticity or that you give off such vibes that they would tend to automatically dissociate themselves from you!"

Sorry to break into your comment to David Jones but I have also had exactly the same experience. Serbians, Croatians and Montenegrins are around and mixing with our workforces, but the few Albanians I have met (who have all seemed very nice, by the way) are all introduced to me by their friends in those groups.

They don't seem to have mixed into the working or social environments in the same way in London or other European cities where I visit.

The minister added that the unilateral declaration of independence "cannot be a basis for the normalization of the relations between Serbs and (ethnic) Albanians, as no attempt at secession in the history of the United Nations has led to the establishment of statehood of any territory in the world".!!!!!
Ups…! Mr. Jeremic ICJ for your information is the highest level jurisdiction which has replayed (gave its opinion) on your request. Tell us please, what your goal is? Nevertheless we are fully aware of your plans.
But, your intention to hypnotize entire world is sentenced to fail; assertion like “declaration of independence cannot be a basis…etc” is just an attempt in series to obscure the issue. Because ex YU crisis with all its consequences if you remember has happened just two decades ago, and it is as genuinely documented as ever of that nature before. Anyone knows that Kosovars have upraised, fought, built their institution in close cooperation with International Community and eventually declared independence, in aim to live as a normal society free off torture, assassinations, massive deportations, raping, killings etc. for more than a century under Serbia backed by Russians who even today try to foster Serbian dream without any reasonable basis.
As for the history of statehood establishments your ‘arguments” have no basis, since during the 60’s and 70’s dozens of nations have declared their independences, what makes this more intrigues is that your state has encouraged and recognized them all in raw. So that here you a suggestion: read, read and read history…

quasistate, Ferid Murad is an Albanian-American scientist and Nobel Prize Winner. The Belushi brothers are two outstanding Albanian-American actors. Here are some other famous Albanians:
-Ismail Kadare: writer and candidate for the Nobel Prize in Literature
-Eliza Dushku: Albanian-American actress
-Ali Pasha: the founder of modern Egypt
-Alexander Moisiu: famous actor
-Mehmed Isa: Head architect of the Taj Mahal

lids
dont use Milosevic propaganda, please bring in the facts.

here is a link for you:http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Tema-Dana/43889/Samo-polovina-Srbije-pismena
I belive it will help you in building your future a proper picrure of Balkans.

Thanks

John Belushi was and Jim Belushi is albanian. But they belong to an Orthodox Christian family (not the islamic trolls you find on this board) and attended Greek Orthodox church. Regis Philbin is half-albanian. Yeah, we know where they are in america. If you want to know which pizza joints in NYC are run by albos, ask an Italian who lives in the neighborhood. Italian-americans are rather sensitive about people who desecrate their cuisine.

"Well that is way better than the world knowing Milosevic was a Serb. I'll take that anyday."
johny

You forgot to mention Enver Hoxha.

Besides mother Theresa, and Albanians being in the Pizza biz, I have no idea who the other Albanians you named are. They are certainly not famous to the world, as you can ask the average, let's say American, to name a famous Albanian, how many could they name? Get my point? Albanians being famous to other Albanians is not famous.
(quasistate, 3 August 2010 18:15)

Quasistate,

How could you forget John Belushi?!!! An absolute comedy genius. Ok, so he took drugs, got fat and died but so did lots of other people in the 1970s.

I wonder if there is a statue of him somewhere in Albania or southern Serbia?

"You must be proud of the achievements your country has around the world!

Indeed we are: ..."

You forgot the all-powerful Albanian lobby in the U.S.! Able to summon up NATO aircraft with a phone-call (from Brooklyn). Considering the relative number of Serbs and Albanians in the States, an impressive feat.

quasistate, Ferid Murad is an Albanian-American scientist and Nobel Prize Winner. The Belushi brothers are two outstanding Albanian-American actors. Here are some other famous Albanians:
-Ismail Kadare: writer and candidate for the Nobel Prize in Literature
-Eliza Dushku: Albanian-American actress
-Ali Pasha: the founder of modern Egypt
-Alexander Moisiu: famous actor
-Mehmed Isa: Head architect of the Taj Mahal
(Illyrian, 3 August 2010 20:55)
========================

Thank for the laugh. Any of these people actually important?
Eliza? Didn't her series get cancelled because of lack of interest?
Only one Belushi left and Jim isn't doing much.

I'm sure we could all come up with famous people but I will only need to use one.
Tesla. He trumps them all.

I'm sure we could all come up with famous people but I will only need to use one.
Tesla. He trumps them all.
(Peggy, 4 August 2010 04:56)

So, if anyone else who is less popular then Tesla doesn't deserve freedom? Is that what you're trying to say?

"It is sad if the Serb public is so well uninformed about the world and mr Vuk has a monopoly on stupidity...
(dino, 3 August 2010 11:21)

as supposed to albanians where 80% of the woman work force cannot read or write..
You must be important man in your family...
thanks to b92 your horizons expended..
lids"

- With that comment you just proved Dion's point.
Lids, you never dissapoint!


"John Belushi was and Jim Belushi is albanian. But they belong to an Orthodox Christian family (not the islamic trolls you find on this board) and attended Greek Orthodox church. Regis Philbin is half-albanian. Yeah, we know where they are in america. If you want to know which pizza joints in NYC are run by albos, ask an Italian who lives in the neighborhood. Italian-americans are rather sensitive about people who desecrate their cuisine.
JohnBoy"

- JohnBoy, do you make it a habit to go around asking Italian-Americans what they think about Albanian owned pizzeria's?

Contemporary famous Albanians, Ismail Kadare, Prince Austrian winner prize, and best Bokker man interantional and many any other awards... whom i would like to cite ` lahutar sings>stand up albanians serbs are taking kosovo, guslar sings> wake up serbs, albanians are seizing kosovo`

So, if anyone else who is less popular then Tesla doesn't deserve freedom? Is that what you're trying to say?
(Simpatiku, 4 August 2010 17:44)
=======================

You know very well that is not what I was saying so why put such ridiculous questions to me then?
How to put words in one's mouth is all you Albanians know by the looks of things. Responding to someone boasting how important and well known Albanians are around the world is perfectly ok by citing one's own great achievers. Don't come to a gun fight armed with a knife.

It is sad if the Serb public is so well uninformed about the world and mr Vuk has a monopoly on stupidity...
(dino, 3 August 2010 11:21)

Dino,

I have lived and worked in 3 continents and god knows how many countries. In all that time I have come across countless communties of expats from balkan countries (mostly Serbia & Croatia). In all my travels and exploits I have yet to encounter a single person from Albania and or Kosovo. Why is this? Is it because Serbs are so un-informed that they seek better prospects overseas and Albanians are so Informed that they stay in the Business Capials of the world (Pristina / Tirana).

That must be it then! Such an intellectual high society and there was me thinking otherwise. You must be proud of the achievements your country has around the world.

Thanks Dino for enlightening us to the vast intellect of your kin but must pop off now, toodlepip.

Regards

DJ..Manama, Glasgow & on occasions Novi Sad

"The minister added that the unilateral declaration of independence "cannot be a basis for the normalization of the relations between Serbs and (ethnic) Albanians, as no attempt at secession in the history of the United Nations has led to the establishment of statehood of any territory in the world".

LOL, umm Croatia Slovenia Macedonia Bosnia Montenegro Kosovo, Estonia, Slovakia, Lithuania, Latvia, Moldova,Hungary from the damn Ruski occupation, ect ect

It is sad if the Serb public is so well uninformed about the world and mr Vuk has a monopoly on stupidity...

PS:
1821-03-25
Greek independence from Ottoman Empire declared,

1832-03-04
Greek independence from Ottoman Empire recognised

It took years for Greeks too, but just like Ottomans were invaders in Greece, so are Serbs in Kosovo.

;) History makes mr Vuk look like a schoolgirl selling candy to babys.
Enjoy your sweet delusion.

It is sad if the Serb public is so well uninformed about the world and mr Vuk has a monopoly on stupidity...
(dino, 3 August 2010 11:21)

as supposed to albanians where 80% of the woman work force cannot read or write..
You must be important man in your family...
thanks to b92 your horizons expended..

Oh Albanians! Where are those new post-ICJ recognitions, hmmmm? Jeremic's early post-verdict panic comments seem to be a smokescreen. Someone should've told the 'ex'-KLA heading the temporary institutions before they brought out the champane & coke, that Belgrade likely had assurances from anti-UDI countries that they wouldn't flip even if ICJ supported UDI.

pss: "Or could be that someone with your overwhelming prejudices would either tend to dissociate you from anyone of the Albanian ethniticity or that you give off such vibes that they would tend to automatically dissociate themselves from you!"

Sorry to break into your comment to David Jones but I have also had exactly the same experience. Serbians, Croatians and Montenegrins are around and mixing with our workforces, but the few Albanians I have met (who have all seemed very nice, by the way) are all introduced to me by their friends in those groups.

They don't seem to have mixed into the working or social environments in the same way in London or other European cities where I visit.

Tadic sent Vuk for the forthcoming embarresment.

Tadic had enough last time, where our FM Skender Hyseni-new Skenderbeg sent Tadic packing much before the end of the UN session.

Next is VUK

The minister added that the unilateral declaration of independence "cannot be a basis for the normalization of the relations between Serbs and (ethnic) Albanians, as no attempt at secession in the history of the United Nations has led to the establishment of statehood of any territory in the world".!!!!!
Ups…! Mr. Jeremic ICJ for your information is the highest level jurisdiction which has replayed (gave its opinion) on your request. Tell us please, what your goal is? Nevertheless we are fully aware of your plans.
But, your intention to hypnotize entire world is sentenced to fail; assertion like “declaration of independence cannot be a basis…etc” is just an attempt in series to obscure the issue. Because ex YU crisis with all its consequences if you remember has happened just two decades ago, and it is as genuinely documented as ever of that nature before. Anyone knows that Kosovars have upraised, fought, built their institution in close cooperation with International Community and eventually declared independence, in aim to live as a normal society free off torture, assassinations, massive deportations, raping, killings etc. for more than a century under Serbia backed by Russians who even today try to foster Serbian dream without any reasonable basis.
As for the history of statehood establishments your ‘arguments” have no basis, since during the 60’s and 70’s dozens of nations have declared their independences, what makes this more intrigues is that your state has encouraged and recognized them all in raw. So that here you a suggestion: read, read and read history…

lili - Are all those people from Kosovo?

If you are talking about Albanians who live in other countries, then you forgot the wonderful late Bekim Fehmiu who understood and suffered because of his multiculturalism and broad mind.

I am certain that many on your list would hate to be used as your nationalistic icons. Many married into other nationalities and/ or had nothing to do with Kosovo.

Where is the link? And why can't anyone see how ironic it is that a special flag was designed and yet only the flag of a neighbouring state is waved? I thought all of this was about 'independence' - strange that.

Dino, the now independent nations of the former Yugoslavia were republics, Kosovo is a province of Serbia, i.e., Serbian land, a part of Serbia, is Serbia. Do you understand the difference? Albanians can have autonomy in Kosovo, because they are now the majority population there, that has been offered. As for Jeremic, do you think you are smarter than he is, Dino? I would put my money on the Vuk.

lids
dont use Milosevic propaganda, please bring in the facts.

here is a link for you:http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Tema-Dana/43889/Samo-polovina-Srbije-pismena
I belive it will help you in building your future a proper picrure of Balkans.

Thanks

I have lived and worked in 3 continents and god knows how many countries. In all that time I have come across countless communties of expats from balkan countries (mostly Serbia & Croatia). In all my travels and exploits I have yet to encounter a single person from Albania and or Kosovo. Why is this? Is it because Serbs are so un-informed that they seek better prospects overseas and Albanians are so Informed that they stay in the Business Capials of the world (Pristina / Tirana).

That must be it then! Such an intellectual high society and there was me thinking otherwise. You must be proud of the achievements your country has around the world.

Thanks Dino for enlightening us to the vast intellect of your kin but must pop off now, toodlepip.

Regards

DJ..Manama, Glasgow & on occasions Novi Sad
(Mr. David J. Jones, 3 August 2010 13:06)
Or could be that someone with your overwhelming prejudices would either tend to dissociate you from anyone of the Albanian ethniticity or that you give off such vibes that they would tend to automatically dissociate themselves from you!

Dino you funny guy you!

It would seem that your history books are missing a few chapters.

The minister added that the unilateral declaration of independence "cannot be a basis for the normalization of the relations between Serbs and (ethnic) Albanians, as no attempt at secession in the history of the United Nations has led to the establishment of statehood of any territory in the world".


-- Ah here we go, Vucke lying again. Either that or he is uniformed and that's not good as a foreign minister. See how Bangladesh became independent Vuk.

Besides mother Theresa, and Albanians being in the Pizza biz, I have no idea who the other Albanians you named are. They are certainly not famous to the world, as you can ask the average, let's say American, to name a famous Albanian, how many could they name? Get my point? Albanians being famous to other Albanians is not famous.

Dino, so long as Russia is on the security council nothing will change. The meeting will have the US and GB stating that because the ICJ ruled that declaring independence is not contrary to international law, Kosovo's statehood is legitimate. The Russians and Chinese on the other hand will point out that nothing was said about the legality of Kosovo's statehood, etc. This is a stalemate. It's like two men arm wrestling locked in neutral position. The problem for the Albanian camp is that so long as Russia, China, and most importantly Serbia, continue to insist on all those not recognizing Kosovo's UDI reading the actual court judgment, it will be hard for countries to recognize Kosovo. The only way they will do this is by arm twisting and other incentives offered by powerful countries. Stalemate, stalemate, stalemate. How does one break a stalemate? Negotiate!

John Belushi was and Jim Belushi is albanian. But they belong to an Orthodox Christian family (not the islamic trolls you find on this board) and attended Greek Orthodox church. Regis Philbin is half-albanian. Yeah, we know where they are in america. If you want to know which pizza joints in NYC are run by albos, ask an Italian who lives in the neighborhood. Italian-americans are rather sensitive about people who desecrate their cuisine.

You must be proud of the achievements your country has around the world!
Indeed we are:mother teresa,ferid murati,nobel prize,anri sala art ,angelin preljocaj choregraph,belushi brothers,actors,stan dragotin and lirija begeja film ,Cana,xhemaili and some others in sport,inva mula,saimir pirgu and some others as cantators, mersini in physics, famous Pizza family group,etc etc

Albanians being famous to other Albanians is not famous.
(quasistate, 3 August 2010 18:15)

Well that is way better than the world knowing Milosevic was a Serb. I'll take that anyday.

quasistate, Ferid Murad is an Albanian-American scientist and Nobel Prize Winner. The Belushi brothers are two outstanding Albanian-American actors. Here are some other famous Albanians:
-Ismail Kadare: writer and candidate for the Nobel Prize in Literature
-Eliza Dushku: Albanian-American actress
-Ali Pasha: the founder of modern Egypt
-Alexander Moisiu: famous actor
-Mehmed Isa: Head architect of the Taj Mahal

quasistate, Ferid Murad is an Albanian-American scientist and Nobel Prize Winner. The Belushi brothers are two outstanding Albanian-American actors. Here are some other famous Albanians:
-Ismail Kadare: writer and candidate for the Nobel Prize in Literature
-Eliza Dushku: Albanian-American actress
-Ali Pasha: the founder of modern Egypt
-Alexander Moisiu: famous actor
-Mehmed Isa: Head architect of the Taj Mahal
(Illyrian, 3 August 2010 20:55)
========================

Thank for the laugh. Any of these people actually important?
Eliza? Didn't her series get cancelled because of lack of interest?
Only one Belushi left and Jim isn't doing much.

I'm sure we could all come up with famous people but I will only need to use one.
Tesla. He trumps them all.

"You must be proud of the achievements your country has around the world!

Indeed we are: ..."

You forgot the all-powerful Albanian lobby in the U.S.! Able to summon up NATO aircraft with a phone-call (from Brooklyn). Considering the relative number of Serbs and Albanians in the States, an impressive feat.

Besides mother Theresa, and Albanians being in the Pizza biz, I have no idea who the other Albanians you named are. They are certainly not famous to the world, as you can ask the average, let's say American, to name a famous Albanian, how many could they name? Get my point? Albanians being famous to other Albanians is not famous.
(quasistate, 3 August 2010 18:15)

Quasistate,

How could you forget John Belushi?!!! An absolute comedy genius. Ok, so he took drugs, got fat and died but so did lots of other people in the 1970s.

I wonder if there is a statue of him somewhere in Albania or southern Serbia?

I'm sure we could all come up with famous people but I will only need to use one.
Tesla. He trumps them all.
(Peggy, 4 August 2010 04:56)

So, if anyone else who is less popular then Tesla doesn't deserve freedom? Is that what you're trying to say?

"It is sad if the Serb public is so well uninformed about the world and mr Vuk has a monopoly on stupidity...
(dino, 3 August 2010 11:21)

as supposed to albanians where 80% of the woman work force cannot read or write..
You must be important man in your family...
thanks to b92 your horizons expended..
lids"

- With that comment you just proved Dion's point.
Lids, you never dissapoint!


"John Belushi was and Jim Belushi is albanian. But they belong to an Orthodox Christian family (not the islamic trolls you find on this board) and attended Greek Orthodox church. Regis Philbin is half-albanian. Yeah, we know where they are in america. If you want to know which pizza joints in NYC are run by albos, ask an Italian who lives in the neighborhood. Italian-americans are rather sensitive about people who desecrate their cuisine.
JohnBoy"

- JohnBoy, do you make it a habit to go around asking Italian-Americans what they think about Albanian owned pizzeria's?

"Well that is way better than the world knowing Milosevic was a Serb. I'll take that anyday."
johny

You forgot to mention Enver Hoxha.

Contemporary famous Albanians, Ismail Kadare, Prince Austrian winner prize, and best Bokker man interantional and many any other awards... whom i would like to cite ` lahutar sings>stand up albanians serbs are taking kosovo, guslar sings> wake up serbs, albanians are seizing kosovo`

So, if anyone else who is less popular then Tesla doesn't deserve freedom? Is that what you're trying to say?
(Simpatiku, 4 August 2010 17:44)
=======================

You know very well that is not what I was saying so why put such ridiculous questions to me then?
How to put words in one's mouth is all you Albanians know by the looks of things. Responding to someone boasting how important and well known Albanians are around the world is perfectly ok by citing one's own great achievers. Don't come to a gun fight armed with a knife.