"Critical zone in relations with partners"

Partners?? Right. These are not partners, these are enemies. The way the US/Germany/UK and their puppets are behaving towards Serbia is like pure enemies, so we should treat them as such. Serbia should completely turn her back on these imperialists, and turn toward Russia, China, Brazil and the unaligned movement. Once they do this, the imperialists will have realized that they lost, and come begging Serbia for friendship like the fools that they are. Being 'nice' to people like these does not work, they don't respect it, and just take further advantage of you, as has been proven by their actions.

Serbia is placing far too much emphasis, and wasting energy and resources, on EU integration. Place all your eggs in one basket, and you're sure to be held hostage by Brussels. Norway is affiliated to the EU as an EEA member and is not dictated to by Brussels. Serbia should aim for an association agreement linked only to economic activity, where she could develop into a regional powerhouse. With a young educated middle class, and agricultural strength Serbia should avoid being shackled to a political master. Serbia has other friends in the world far more sympathetic to her position. The EU powers and the US have sought only to crush Serbia miltarily, politically, and spiritually. Tadic must realise there is a wider world out there, with governments who are not hostile to Serbia.

Since the bombing days are long gone, Brussels cannot do anything more than cry like a little baby.

Wow they love us at the EU dont they? Hey Albanians, where are those new recognitions the ICJ verdict was supposed to bring in?

Vuk was smart asking if the UDI was illegal. He received an answer that anyone can declare independence, which draws attention to other separatist movements in outher coutries. Now you see that Spain, Slovakia, Romania, and Cyprus reaffirmed their intent to never recognize Kosovo. There are other countries around the world are in the same situation who now have to worry about the separatist movements in their countries since the ICJ ruling was clear. Vuk was smart about not asking if it was illegal for Kosovo to cede from Serbia since a negative ruling for Serbia would have been the end of Serbia's campaign to keep Kosovo. He's asking all the right questions. Doesn't Vuk translate into fox? Of course, he attended Harvard so he received a high quality education. Where did Fatmir Sediju go? University of Pristina?

Of course Jeremic will attack the ICJ - if he doesn't then he would be accepting the biggest blunder of his career.

Why did Jeremic not ask if it was right for K.albanians to secede? Why did Jeremic not ask if the independence and statehood of Kosovo is against international law?

Instead he asked if UDI was illegal and he got his answer.

"Result:60 countries will recognise Kosovo in very near future."

PRN, while I'm aware that many countries in the world are governed by fools and knaves, the fact remains that most of those countries have already recognised your UDI. 60 more very soon?
Dream on.

Serbian Hypocrisy is beyond imagination and as ecpected was unsuccessful.

OCTOBER 2008

Vuk asks UN member not to recognise Kosovo but to "wait for the ICJ decision on legality of UDI"

Result: MANY Countries recognised Kosovo.


AUGUST 2010

Vuk asks UN member not to recognise Kosovo but to "wait for the UN General Assembly debate on this issue."

Result:60 countries will recognise Kosovo in very near future.

Serbia has lost every battle for Kosovo, so Belgrade has got used to it and it for them a daily food, and moreover they find words to interpret it as victory.

So much for Serbian hypocrisy.

What Serbia actually does is:
a) exposing the hypocrisy of the west on a large world wide scale
b) gaining time, as a matter fact, the longer the status is unresolved the better for Serbia
c) exporting the problem to other countries.

moral of the story, military strength does not always solve issues, not can it mute the opponent in all cases.

Having said that, i think maybe Serbia is taking it a little bit too far, unless there is smth we are all missing.

"Vuk asks UN member not to recognise Kosovo but to "wait for the UN General Assembly debate on this issue.

Result:60 countries will recognise Kosovo in very near future. "
(PRN, 2 August 2010 10:54)

Oops.. Not exactly. More like:

RESULT: NO (0, zero) countries have recognized Kosovo since the ICJ ruling, 10 days ago!

It looks like countries are waiting for the UN GA debate?

Partners?! Its more like master and servant relationship. In this "brave new world" somebody has to stand up and say enough. I am proud it is our small Serbia which is doing it even though we are paying a high price for it.
But that is the only way sometimes, and we have to do it, not because of the world but to satisfy our own consience.

Pete: "With a young educated middle class, and agricultural strength Serbia should avoid being shackled to a political master. Serbia has other friends in the world far more sympathetic to her position. The EU powers and the US have sought only to crush Serbia miltarily, politically, and spiritually. Tadic must realise there is a wider world out there, with governments who are not hostile to Serbia."

Excellent comment - from your mouth to the ears of those in charge with any luck! Great sound logic. I am not against the EU or for it; it is up to the people of Serbia, but you make a lot of sense.

American Eagle: "Vuk was smart about not asking if it was illegal for Kosovo to cede from Serbia since a negative ruling for Serbia would have been the end of Serbia's campaign to keep Kosovo."

I agree, Serbia clearly asked the question in such a narrow way for just that reason. I am very disappointed in the ICJ cop out, but they have just paved the way for the obvious question about secession.

I am not surprised that the EU and 'Brussels sources' [aka. a rep from one of those 'mightiest' countries we keep hearing about] are wetting themselves at the prospect of being pinned down to answer the big question on everyone's lips.

And what about Russia calling a meeting over the next few days at the UNSC? I am sure the very same issue will be addressed. It will be interesting to see the reaction.

PRN, while I'm aware that many countries in the world are governed by fools and knaves, the fact remains that most of those countries have already recognised your UDI. 60 more very soon?
Dream on.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 2 August 2010 13:07)
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PRN is very consistent actually - consistently wrong. Whatever it says, expect the opposite.

All this "leak" report are just propaganda..the real thing is still how can Serb politicians tell their own people the truth about Kosovo..and we all know that it's difficoult...

The draft resolution is abrillant one, that calls for peaceful dialog and negoyiations, That is civilized. Some EU countries committed to the Kosovo independence even before 2000 are upset but there is not such a thing as EU position so nobody has the right to speak on behalf of EU

What a colossal game of chicken! Of course we cannot rule out that this is a ploy by Belgrade to get Brussels and Washington to give up some of their demands (which would be seen as a betrayal in Pristina of course).

But then, Belgrade really has nothing to loose by going all out. If they go down they'll be taking the west and respect for international law globally too, and at a time where power is continuing to shift to the East & LatAm. Even the british PM went to India in the spirit of 'humility', i.e. on his knees. It's a new world out there already.

Bring. It. On.

The only thing I could see these "great powers" effectively doing besides more huffing and puffing, is indefinitely delay Serbia's EU ascension - but at the simultaneous cost of delyaing any action towards Kosovo too. Are they going to cut diplomatic relations? Hardly. Are they going to revoke Schengen? Of course not. Are they going to use the military? Please.

True Belgrade is taking a risk doing what it's doing, but the language in the resolution is far from confrontational. What matters more to me is the inability of the EU in formulating a united front, which would have been so regardless of "consultation" with Belgrade, and the United States in being more interested in Afghanistan while stonewalling on Kosovo and repeating the same worn out empty statements. Belgrade's not being uncooperative. They simply got their act together faster. The "insult" is simply Belgrade not recognizing its pecking order on the totem pole.

What's more interesting is Koha Ditore's realization that Kosovo can't get anywhere without the approval of Russia and/or China. This soap opera between Belgrade and Brussels is, in my opinion, much ado about nothing.

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2010&mm=08&dd=02&nav_category=640&nav_id=449285

"For Albanians is enough that ICJ gave his verdict:"Indepedence was in line with international law".
(NoolaV!, 2 August 2010 14:31)

One more person who didn't read or didn't understand the ICJ ruling: The UDI was in line with the international law, the DECLARATION of independence.

I don't know why Serbia is going to international institutions when they know they are paid by the Americans and will therefore rule accordingly. Serbia should just keep what it has in Kosovo and call it a day. Ignore all calls for negotiations with criminal albanians in Pristina. All this whining to the UN and to the EU is just humiliating.

Besides, what the heck is Republik of Srpska waiting for? Declare independence, NOW!

By now, SAA could have been achieved, bilateral economy treatis established and a common and peaceful atmosphere for more progress and developement reached, but no. All what matters is Kosovo-je-Srbija.

I am convinced that Serbia lost because of that already billions of investment. And God knows how many unfruitful and lost years are up to come. Is the Serbian leadership really so stupid to sacrifice a second generation for lost causes? They are on the best to do so.

I saw all coments here ,and I noticed that, Serbs are happy because countries don't recognise Kosovo after ICJ.For Albanians is enough that ICJ gave his verdict:"Indepedence was in line with international law".In near future countries around the world will recognise Kosovo ,because now they are in holiday.I have one advice for Serbs ->care how to join in EU,because Kosovo is lost since 1999....
Big brother is watching you(L)

Bekim, read Top's comment above yours. There was no winner or loser in regard to the ICJ opinion. They simply stated the the "Right to Proclaim Independence", is not illegal. It did not say that the K Albanians have an independent state in Kosovo. Why can't some readers here, and Pristina, by the way, understand this?

Luigi, I am one of Vuk's "Own People". What is it this difficult thing that he has to tell me? Is there something that he is hiding, and only he knows? I read a lot of news daily, so whatever Vuk is hiding from me, and yes I do live in Belgrade, he is a master at deceit, I guess. It is so astute of you to notice Vuk's cunning ways, though. Unlike the US/EU, that is so transparent about everything.

While people of Serbia are depending on the investments made by EU and US, people in this site still urge current Serbian regime to jeoperdize the relation with them...

Elf,

You are kidding aren't you? Serbia 'depending' on EU/US investments? You haven't spotted the rest of the world out there with money to burn who see serbia as a country with skilled aworkforce with very good transport links into the heart of Europe etc.

If the EU and US 'cut off investments' then it is not going to be very good for their own business interests and that of the shareholders and owners. Basically you are saying that they should cut and run from an developing market of 8 million consumers in a country at peace?

Don't let your supposition get in the way of any facts then. No proof via way of internet links or anything else? Just the usual day dreaming!

Of course, there is a world outside of US/EU with a lot of money who will be more than happy to invest in a
It is sad that some people are so short sighted and prefer to think we live in the 19th century rather than the 21st. Have they not even noticed globalization?

There is no 'jepoardization' here as the EU is not even united and the US is irrelevant, unless it plans on bombing Belgrade again. The US/EU have backed themselves into a corner and are now using threats and bully boy tactics. Do these idiots not know Serbian history?

INAT!

While people of Serbia are depending on the investments made by EU and US, people in this site still urge current Serbian regime to jeoperdize the relation with them. I guees some are not aware of the EU/US influence in the Serbian economy/life, or maybe they dont care since they dont live in Serbia, bit somewhere in EU/US.

I am Albanian and do not understand the ways of the world on top of that I am not as civilized as serbs are, but did Kosova lose the ICJ case.

the battle for Kosovo did not end with the ICJ's advisory opinion.

When does it end?

insult..really !!.. and demanding serbia give their heartland to non serbs isnt insulting ?? no..of course not..djavoli!!

To address all issues raised:
a) I think Vuk translates to wolf.
b) Everybody on vacation? HAHAHA. Most of the non-recognizing countries are in the southern hemisphere or near the equator.
c) Consider yourselves insulted, then. The resolution is rather pitiful when compared to what it should be: american foreign policy = imperialism
d)Why is everyone wasting the free shot given to them? UDIs ALL OVER THE WORLD! Do it now before the GA passes a resolution against it.

Metrod,

Sediju doesn't stand up to Jeremic. You rely on the US and the EU to do your fighting. What has Sediju done on the internation front? How many countries has Sediju actually visited and received recognition from? 0. It is the US and EU who are pushing countries to recognize Kosovo. That is the match that I am watching. Your inept politicians cannot stand up to Jeremic. You have to beg the big boys to play ball for you otherwise you would lose worse that the North Koreans at the World Cup.

It's becoming very clear who the players are who use balkanization as their foreign policy.

To those that continually hang onto this ICJ’s opinion as being positive for them; don’t because it really says nothing at all. Even the most hardline western legal interpreter would privately agree that it’s a “dog’s breakfast” of a decision that tries to straddle both sides of the great divide. On the one hand it’s a “plain victory”, but on the other it did not give a green light for Kosovo to breakaway from Serbia. I repeat that the Oracle of Delphi would have given a clearer opinion than the ICJ.

The gem in this Kosovo question is Serbia’s agreement to allow free movement of people and goods across it territory. That is the key to the entire regional issue; having a seat on the UN is meaningless nonsense as Kosovo is an economic nightmare. It can’t borrow money in the true sense of the word; oh, yes they can get “loans” from the IMF, but even a child knows its just aid money.

There is a great rush to have this Kosovo business finalised before the second wave of economic disaster hits the US and then the EU. If people think that the last financial shock wave was bad wait for stage 2.

I hope that Serbia’s action has insulted the EU because it’s about time those clowns were put in their place. Don’t hang onto this MYTH that there are pots of gold in the EU – the EU is struggling to keep itself together; in fact there is a strong body of opinion that Europe has started to fall apart because there is no more money in the treasury. In fact there are about 9 or 10 big banks in the EU that face bankruptcy at the moment.

Serbia has lost nothing in avoiding becoming part of the EU. So far the only beneficiaries of EU money have been the ruling politicians. The EU has made many concessions to Serbia because its businesses are losing money and nothing else. The US/EU would use military means if they could, but that has long passed and stagnation in Kosovo continues – there is fear now that after 11 going to 12 years of so called independence nothing has happened to improve Albos lives and a backlash is possible. Watch the numbers joining the Al-Qaida and other radical movements increase. Time is on Serbia’s side.

For those that think Serbia is also losing out on something by not cooperating with the EU – look around you and see the grand living standards in Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary etc.

Serbia, best wishes to you and your fight for justice. It's a very impressive situation, and it takes real guts to confront the "world powers" -- no sarcasm here, good luck!

..."Brussels sources" said that Serbia's draft Kosovo resolution submitted to the UN General Assembly was an "insult".

The anonymous source is further quoted as saying that Serbia will have to choose who to cooperate with.

Serbia's draft Kosovo resolution is very peaceful and I cant see anything insulting for anyone. Or is it simply insult to then that you disagree with them?
Why dont they say now that we agree to disagree?
No. You see, they can disagree with you, but you cant disagree with them because its an insult.

I dont need better proof that in the future, Serbia will have to BETTER choose who to cooperate with. Tadics friends cant cooperate with anyone.

many countries have promised to recognize Kosovo but that it takes some time because we are in summer. just wait until mid-August because then it will rain of recognition

I´d say it´s an insult to "recognize" such a laughable freak-creation on serbian soil.

THAT´s an insult. so better do not talk about insults here...unless you want to ridicule yourselves.

"he attended Harvard so he received a high quality education. Where did Fatmir Sediju go? University of Pristina?
American Eagle"

- On paper, Jeremic is mighty good with his Ivy League degree. But, in real life, it looks like Sejdiu keeps beeting him.

Unless, of course, you're watching a different game.



"In this "brave new world" somebody has to stand up and say enough. I am proud it is our small Serbia which is doing it even though we are paying a high price for it.
But that is the only way sometimes, and we have to do it, not because of the world but to satisfy our own consience.
Tito"

- Are you sure it's not the people, but your government 'fighting' because it's politicaly expedient, not to satisfy their conscience?



"By now, SAA could have been achieved, bilateral economy treatis established and a common and peaceful atmosphere for more progress and developement reached, but no. All what matters is Kosovo-je-Srbija.

I am convinced that Serbia lost because of that already billions of investment. And God knows how many unfruitful and lost years are up to come. Is the Serbian leadership really so stupid to sacrifice a second generation for lost causes? They are on the best to do so.
JohnC"

- One of the more intelligent posts I've read here.
What is scary is by continuing to kick a dead horse Serbia will corner herself and end up even more isolated. This would of course cause more problems.

Throw in a generation of Serbs who grew up during Slobo reign and Seselj & Draskovic hateful rants toward their neighbors and add economic problems than you could have a recipe for disaster.

I hope I'm wrong.

Too bad for the EU and its pseudo wannabe members. National honour, pride and integrity are more important than joining a boys club. Personally, Serbia would fair better declaring neutrality and non-alignment for both EU and NATO, similar to a Switzerland. That would mess up EU even more, as in the long run, they need her more than she needs them - and deep down inside they know. Trade routes, waterways, air traffic etc. Look at the past two lost decades, what have they done, asides from symbolically abolishing visas - nothing genuine.

Sediju doesn't stand up to Jeremic. You rely on the US and the EU to do your fighting. What has Sediju done on the internation front? How many countries has Sediju actually visited and received recognition from? 0. It is the US and EU who are pushing countries to recognize Kosovo. That is the match that I am watching. Your inept politicians cannot stand up to Jeremic. You have to beg the big boys to play ball for you otherwise you would lose worse that the North Koreans at the World Cup.
(American Eagle, 3 August 2010 14:15)

You are absuletly right! Although I favour Kosovo independence, Thachi´s and Seidiu´s government is made of thieves and incompetent fools! I mean imagine, the ICJ has given them clear victory, and they haven´t been able to materialize with one single recognition. What a disgrace!

Yeremich on the other hand, has been quite successful in halting recognitions, even after the ICJ. Maybe his strategy is not to win, but to freeze the conflict to a point where Kosovo Independence slowly loses significance and gradually takes the road of Taiwan.

serb camp said
"US have sought only to crush Serbia miltarily, politically, and spiritually"

No, serbia brought it on themselves,so quit blaming the U.S. because serbia signle handedly set the balkans on fire for a decade, learn to accept responsibility and for God's sake learn to live in peace with the Blakans.

Serbian Hypocrisy is beyond imagination and as ecpected was unsuccessful.

OCTOBER 2008

Vuk asks UN member not to recognise Kosovo but to "wait for the ICJ decision on legality of UDI"

Result: MANY Countries recognised Kosovo.


AUGUST 2010

Vuk asks UN member not to recognise Kosovo but to "wait for the UN General Assembly debate on this issue."

Result:60 countries will recognise Kosovo in very near future.

Serbia has lost every battle for Kosovo, so Belgrade has got used to it and it for them a daily food, and moreover they find words to interpret it as victory.

So much for Serbian hypocrisy.

Since the bombing days are long gone, Brussels cannot do anything more than cry like a little baby.

Of course Jeremic will attack the ICJ - if he doesn't then he would be accepting the biggest blunder of his career.

Why did Jeremic not ask if it was right for K.albanians to secede? Why did Jeremic not ask if the independence and statehood of Kosovo is against international law?

Instead he asked if UDI was illegal and he got his answer.

All this "leak" report are just propaganda..the real thing is still how can Serb politicians tell their own people the truth about Kosovo..and we all know that it's difficoult...

I saw all coments here ,and I noticed that, Serbs are happy because countries don't recognise Kosovo after ICJ.For Albanians is enough that ICJ gave his verdict:"Indepedence was in line with international law".In near future countries around the world will recognise Kosovo ,because now they are in holiday.I have one advice for Serbs ->care how to join in EU,because Kosovo is lost since 1999....
Big brother is watching you(L)

Vuk was smart asking if the UDI was illegal. He received an answer that anyone can declare independence, which draws attention to other separatist movements in outher coutries. Now you see that Spain, Slovakia, Romania, and Cyprus reaffirmed their intent to never recognize Kosovo. There are other countries around the world are in the same situation who now have to worry about the separatist movements in their countries since the ICJ ruling was clear. Vuk was smart about not asking if it was illegal for Kosovo to cede from Serbia since a negative ruling for Serbia would have been the end of Serbia's campaign to keep Kosovo. He's asking all the right questions. Doesn't Vuk translate into fox? Of course, he attended Harvard so he received a high quality education. Where did Fatmir Sediju go? University of Pristina?

While people of Serbia are depending on the investments made by EU and US, people in this site still urge current Serbian regime to jeoperdize the relation with them. I guees some are not aware of the EU/US influence in the Serbian economy/life, or maybe they dont care since they dont live in Serbia, bit somewhere in EU/US.

Serbia is placing far too much emphasis, and wasting energy and resources, on EU integration. Place all your eggs in one basket, and you're sure to be held hostage by Brussels. Norway is affiliated to the EU as an EEA member and is not dictated to by Brussels. Serbia should aim for an association agreement linked only to economic activity, where she could develop into a regional powerhouse. With a young educated middle class, and agricultural strength Serbia should avoid being shackled to a political master. Serbia has other friends in the world far more sympathetic to her position. The EU powers and the US have sought only to crush Serbia miltarily, politically, and spiritually. Tadic must realise there is a wider world out there, with governments who are not hostile to Serbia.

Wow they love us at the EU dont they? Hey Albanians, where are those new recognitions the ICJ verdict was supposed to bring in?

Partners?! Its more like master and servant relationship. In this "brave new world" somebody has to stand up and say enough. I am proud it is our small Serbia which is doing it even though we are paying a high price for it.
But that is the only way sometimes, and we have to do it, not because of the world but to satisfy our own consience.

By now, SAA could have been achieved, bilateral economy treatis established and a common and peaceful atmosphere for more progress and developement reached, but no. All what matters is Kosovo-je-Srbija.

I am convinced that Serbia lost because of that already billions of investment. And God knows how many unfruitful and lost years are up to come. Is the Serbian leadership really so stupid to sacrifice a second generation for lost causes? They are on the best to do so.

I am Albanian and do not understand the ways of the world on top of that I am not as civilized as serbs are, but did Kosova lose the ICJ case.

"Vuk asks UN member not to recognise Kosovo but to "wait for the UN General Assembly debate on this issue.

Result:60 countries will recognise Kosovo in very near future. "
(PRN, 2 August 2010 10:54)

Oops.. Not exactly. More like:

RESULT: NO (0, zero) countries have recognized Kosovo since the ICJ ruling, 10 days ago!

It looks like countries are waiting for the UN GA debate?

What Serbia actually does is:
a) exposing the hypocrisy of the west on a large world wide scale
b) gaining time, as a matter fact, the longer the status is unresolved the better for Serbia
c) exporting the problem to other countries.

moral of the story, military strength does not always solve issues, not can it mute the opponent in all cases.

Having said that, i think maybe Serbia is taking it a little bit too far, unless there is smth we are all missing.

"Result:60 countries will recognise Kosovo in very near future."

PRN, while I'm aware that many countries in the world are governed by fools and knaves, the fact remains that most of those countries have already recognised your UDI. 60 more very soon?
Dream on.

Partners?? Right. These are not partners, these are enemies. The way the US/Germany/UK and their puppets are behaving towards Serbia is like pure enemies, so we should treat them as such. Serbia should completely turn her back on these imperialists, and turn toward Russia, China, Brazil and the unaligned movement. Once they do this, the imperialists will have realized that they lost, and come begging Serbia for friendship like the fools that they are. Being 'nice' to people like these does not work, they don't respect it, and just take further advantage of you, as has been proven by their actions.

Pete: "With a young educated middle class, and agricultural strength Serbia should avoid being shackled to a political master. Serbia has other friends in the world far more sympathetic to her position. The EU powers and the US have sought only to crush Serbia miltarily, politically, and spiritually. Tadic must realise there is a wider world out there, with governments who are not hostile to Serbia."

Excellent comment - from your mouth to the ears of those in charge with any luck! Great sound logic. I am not against the EU or for it; it is up to the people of Serbia, but you make a lot of sense.

American Eagle: "Vuk was smart about not asking if it was illegal for Kosovo to cede from Serbia since a negative ruling for Serbia would have been the end of Serbia's campaign to keep Kosovo."

I agree, Serbia clearly asked the question in such a narrow way for just that reason. I am very disappointed in the ICJ cop out, but they have just paved the way for the obvious question about secession.

I am not surprised that the EU and 'Brussels sources' [aka. a rep from one of those 'mightiest' countries we keep hearing about] are wetting themselves at the prospect of being pinned down to answer the big question on everyone's lips.

And what about Russia calling a meeting over the next few days at the UNSC? I am sure the very same issue will be addressed. It will be interesting to see the reaction.

PRN, while I'm aware that many countries in the world are governed by fools and knaves, the fact remains that most of those countries have already recognised your UDI. 60 more very soon?
Dream on.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 2 August 2010 13:07)
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PRN is very consistent actually - consistently wrong. Whatever it says, expect the opposite.

The draft resolution is abrillant one, that calls for peaceful dialog and negoyiations, That is civilized. Some EU countries committed to the Kosovo independence even before 2000 are upset but there is not such a thing as EU position so nobody has the right to speak on behalf of EU

What a colossal game of chicken! Of course we cannot rule out that this is a ploy by Belgrade to get Brussels and Washington to give up some of their demands (which would be seen as a betrayal in Pristina of course).

But then, Belgrade really has nothing to loose by going all out. If they go down they'll be taking the west and respect for international law globally too, and at a time where power is continuing to shift to the East & LatAm. Even the british PM went to India in the spirit of 'humility', i.e. on his knees. It's a new world out there already.

Bring. It. On.

many countries have promised to recognize Kosovo but that it takes some time because we are in summer. just wait until mid-August because then it will rain of recognition

The only thing I could see these "great powers" effectively doing besides more huffing and puffing, is indefinitely delay Serbia's EU ascension - but at the simultaneous cost of delyaing any action towards Kosovo too. Are they going to cut diplomatic relations? Hardly. Are they going to revoke Schengen? Of course not. Are they going to use the military? Please.

True Belgrade is taking a risk doing what it's doing, but the language in the resolution is far from confrontational. What matters more to me is the inability of the EU in formulating a united front, which would have been so regardless of "consultation" with Belgrade, and the United States in being more interested in Afghanistan while stonewalling on Kosovo and repeating the same worn out empty statements. Belgrade's not being uncooperative. They simply got their act together faster. The "insult" is simply Belgrade not recognizing its pecking order on the totem pole.

What's more interesting is Koha Ditore's realization that Kosovo can't get anywhere without the approval of Russia and/or China. This soap opera between Belgrade and Brussels is, in my opinion, much ado about nothing.

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2010&mm=08&dd=02&nav_category=640&nav_id=449285

I don't know why Serbia is going to international institutions when they know they are paid by the Americans and will therefore rule accordingly. Serbia should just keep what it has in Kosovo and call it a day. Ignore all calls for negotiations with criminal albanians in Pristina. All this whining to the UN and to the EU is just humiliating.

Besides, what the heck is Republik of Srpska waiting for? Declare independence, NOW!

"he attended Harvard so he received a high quality education. Where did Fatmir Sediju go? University of Pristina?
American Eagle"

- On paper, Jeremic is mighty good with his Ivy League degree. But, in real life, it looks like Sejdiu keeps beeting him.

Unless, of course, you're watching a different game.



"In this "brave new world" somebody has to stand up and say enough. I am proud it is our small Serbia which is doing it even though we are paying a high price for it.
But that is the only way sometimes, and we have to do it, not because of the world but to satisfy our own consience.
Tito"

- Are you sure it's not the people, but your government 'fighting' because it's politicaly expedient, not to satisfy their conscience?



"By now, SAA could have been achieved, bilateral economy treatis established and a common and peaceful atmosphere for more progress and developement reached, but no. All what matters is Kosovo-je-Srbija.

I am convinced that Serbia lost because of that already billions of investment. And God knows how many unfruitful and lost years are up to come. Is the Serbian leadership really so stupid to sacrifice a second generation for lost causes? They are on the best to do so.
JohnC"

- One of the more intelligent posts I've read here.
What is scary is by continuing to kick a dead horse Serbia will corner herself and end up even more isolated. This would of course cause more problems.

Throw in a generation of Serbs who grew up during Slobo reign and Seselj & Draskovic hateful rants toward their neighbors and add economic problems than you could have a recipe for disaster.

I hope I'm wrong.

While people of Serbia are depending on the investments made by EU and US, people in this site still urge current Serbian regime to jeoperdize the relation with them...

Elf,

You are kidding aren't you? Serbia 'depending' on EU/US investments? You haven't spotted the rest of the world out there with money to burn who see serbia as a country with skilled aworkforce with very good transport links into the heart of Europe etc.

If the EU and US 'cut off investments' then it is not going to be very good for their own business interests and that of the shareholders and owners. Basically you are saying that they should cut and run from an developing market of 8 million consumers in a country at peace?

Don't let your supposition get in the way of any facts then. No proof via way of internet links or anything else? Just the usual day dreaming!

Of course, there is a world outside of US/EU with a lot of money who will be more than happy to invest in a
It is sad that some people are so short sighted and prefer to think we live in the 19th century rather than the 21st. Have they not even noticed globalization?

There is no 'jepoardization' here as the EU is not even united and the US is irrelevant, unless it plans on bombing Belgrade again. The US/EU have backed themselves into a corner and are now using threats and bully boy tactics. Do these idiots not know Serbian history?

INAT!

the battle for Kosovo did not end with the ICJ's advisory opinion.

When does it end?

"For Albanians is enough that ICJ gave his verdict:"Indepedence was in line with international law".
(NoolaV!, 2 August 2010 14:31)

One more person who didn't read or didn't understand the ICJ ruling: The UDI was in line with the international law, the DECLARATION of independence.

Luigi, I am one of Vuk's "Own People". What is it this difficult thing that he has to tell me? Is there something that he is hiding, and only he knows? I read a lot of news daily, so whatever Vuk is hiding from me, and yes I do live in Belgrade, he is a master at deceit, I guess. It is so astute of you to notice Vuk's cunning ways, though. Unlike the US/EU, that is so transparent about everything.

Bekim, read Top's comment above yours. There was no winner or loser in regard to the ICJ opinion. They simply stated the the "Right to Proclaim Independence", is not illegal. It did not say that the K Albanians have an independent state in Kosovo. Why can't some readers here, and Pristina, by the way, understand this?

Metrod,

Sediju doesn't stand up to Jeremic. You rely on the US and the EU to do your fighting. What has Sediju done on the internation front? How many countries has Sediju actually visited and received recognition from? 0. It is the US and EU who are pushing countries to recognize Kosovo. That is the match that I am watching. Your inept politicians cannot stand up to Jeremic. You have to beg the big boys to play ball for you otherwise you would lose worse that the North Koreans at the World Cup.

insult..really !!.. and demanding serbia give their heartland to non serbs isnt insulting ?? no..of course not..djavoli!!

Serbia, best wishes to you and your fight for justice. It's a very impressive situation, and it takes real guts to confront the "world powers" -- no sarcasm here, good luck!

To address all issues raised:
a) I think Vuk translates to wolf.
b) Everybody on vacation? HAHAHA. Most of the non-recognizing countries are in the southern hemisphere or near the equator.
c) Consider yourselves insulted, then. The resolution is rather pitiful when compared to what it should be: american foreign policy = imperialism
d)Why is everyone wasting the free shot given to them? UDIs ALL OVER THE WORLD! Do it now before the GA passes a resolution against it.

..."Brussels sources" said that Serbia's draft Kosovo resolution submitted to the UN General Assembly was an "insult".

The anonymous source is further quoted as saying that Serbia will have to choose who to cooperate with.

Serbia's draft Kosovo resolution is very peaceful and I cant see anything insulting for anyone. Or is it simply insult to then that you disagree with them?
Why dont they say now that we agree to disagree?
No. You see, they can disagree with you, but you cant disagree with them because its an insult.

I dont need better proof that in the future, Serbia will have to BETTER choose who to cooperate with. Tadics friends cant cooperate with anyone.

I´d say it´s an insult to "recognize" such a laughable freak-creation on serbian soil.

THAT´s an insult. so better do not talk about insults here...unless you want to ridicule yourselves.

It's becoming very clear who the players are who use balkanization as their foreign policy.

To those that continually hang onto this ICJ’s opinion as being positive for them; don’t because it really says nothing at all. Even the most hardline western legal interpreter would privately agree that it’s a “dog’s breakfast” of a decision that tries to straddle both sides of the great divide. On the one hand it’s a “plain victory”, but on the other it did not give a green light for Kosovo to breakaway from Serbia. I repeat that the Oracle of Delphi would have given a clearer opinion than the ICJ.

The gem in this Kosovo question is Serbia’s agreement to allow free movement of people and goods across it territory. That is the key to the entire regional issue; having a seat on the UN is meaningless nonsense as Kosovo is an economic nightmare. It can’t borrow money in the true sense of the word; oh, yes they can get “loans” from the IMF, but even a child knows its just aid money.

There is a great rush to have this Kosovo business finalised before the second wave of economic disaster hits the US and then the EU. If people think that the last financial shock wave was bad wait for stage 2.

I hope that Serbia’s action has insulted the EU because it’s about time those clowns were put in their place. Don’t hang onto this MYTH that there are pots of gold in the EU – the EU is struggling to keep itself together; in fact there is a strong body of opinion that Europe has started to fall apart because there is no more money in the treasury. In fact there are about 9 or 10 big banks in the EU that face bankruptcy at the moment.

Serbia has lost nothing in avoiding becoming part of the EU. So far the only beneficiaries of EU money have been the ruling politicians. The EU has made many concessions to Serbia because its businesses are losing money and nothing else. The US/EU would use military means if they could, but that has long passed and stagnation in Kosovo continues – there is fear now that after 11 going to 12 years of so called independence nothing has happened to improve Albos lives and a backlash is possible. Watch the numbers joining the Al-Qaida and other radical movements increase. Time is on Serbia’s side.

For those that think Serbia is also losing out on something by not cooperating with the EU – look around you and see the grand living standards in Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary etc.

Too bad for the EU and its pseudo wannabe members. National honour, pride and integrity are more important than joining a boys club. Personally, Serbia would fair better declaring neutrality and non-alignment for both EU and NATO, similar to a Switzerland. That would mess up EU even more, as in the long run, they need her more than she needs them - and deep down inside they know. Trade routes, waterways, air traffic etc. Look at the past two lost decades, what have they done, asides from symbolically abolishing visas - nothing genuine.

Sediju doesn't stand up to Jeremic. You rely on the US and the EU to do your fighting. What has Sediju done on the internation front? How many countries has Sediju actually visited and received recognition from? 0. It is the US and EU who are pushing countries to recognize Kosovo. That is the match that I am watching. Your inept politicians cannot stand up to Jeremic. You have to beg the big boys to play ball for you otherwise you would lose worse that the North Koreans at the World Cup.
(American Eagle, 3 August 2010 14:15)

You are absuletly right! Although I favour Kosovo independence, Thachi´s and Seidiu´s government is made of thieves and incompetent fools! I mean imagine, the ICJ has given them clear victory, and they haven´t been able to materialize with one single recognition. What a disgrace!

Yeremich on the other hand, has been quite successful in halting recognitions, even after the ICJ. Maybe his strategy is not to win, but to freeze the conflict to a point where Kosovo Independence slowly loses significance and gradually takes the road of Taiwan.

serb camp said
"US have sought only to crush Serbia miltarily, politically, and spiritually"

No, serbia brought it on themselves,so quit blaming the U.S. because serbia signle handedly set the balkans on fire for a decade, learn to accept responsibility and for God's sake learn to live in peace with the Blakans.