"U.S. wants Serbian FM sacked"

"My country tis of thee, sweet land of liberty". I am ashamed to be an American, when I hear these kind of dictatorial comments coming out of DC. FM Jeremic, and the government he represents, are democratically elected and appointed officils by the citizens of Serbia. Is DC trying to overrule the Serbian people's freedom of choice? The US State Dept. has set up, and supports terrorist murderers in Pristina, yet they disapprove of politicians that want to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country. I would respect my country more if they just came out and said, "We insist on every nation in the world behaving in the way that we want, no ifs, ands, or buts".

The Evil from Washington is insisting that the world does as it says. Who may I ask, are they to dictate to others? Just look at the crap they have on their plate, all the places in the world they have brought death and mayhem, and they are "insisting" on something from another sovereign nation. It makes me want to puke when I think of all the misery this Evil from Washington is responsible for. KEEP YOUR UNWANTED NOSES IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY! You have a multitude of problems there, let other nations take care of their own affairs. You (US)obviously are horrible in internation affairs, just look at your track record since WWII. Mr. Jeremic has every right to press forward with the agenda of his government. Can foreign nations around the world demand Klintonka's resignation, because they don't like her policies, and because there are members in her own government that disagree with her? This request from the Evil in Washington is beyond gall, it is a pure attempt at being the world's dictator. What happened to democracy, America?

If Biden wants him out, then he must be doing something right. A general rule of thumb for Serbia's politicians should be to do the exact opposite of whatever the US/Germany wants, and for sure they will be going in the right direction. They have shown over and over and over again that they are not our friends, and want to do us nothing but harm.

If this is true then it is outrageous. How would Washington react if Tadic called for Biden's sacking?

However the cynic inside me says that it could be someone in the DS attempting to shore up Vuk's credibility in the wake of the ICJ decision.

Then again you can never put anything past the arrogant Yanks.

Honest, I do not know what to think.

"The U.S. and EU are demanding that Serbia does not insist on a UN resolution, or at least not on a text that would insist on status talks. If Serbia still decides to submit its resolution, the U.S. or Albania would submit their resolution, but do not say what it would contain," the newspaper quoted its source."

Just exactly who on earth do these countries think they are??? This is just the most arrogant and typically bullheaded stance I think I have ever seeen! How do the US come to the position where they feel they have the right to demand who is the FM for another country?? When did the US administration obtain a mandate from the Serb electorate ? This just goes to demonstrate exactly how the US thinks of itself. America, spend a bit more time getting your own house in order before you poke your noses into things that have nothing to do with you. You shout so loud about democracy and the like and yet you try to dictate to other countries who should or shouldnt be in their government! I hope with all my heart that those in charge in Serbia ignore this US stance completely. Let democracy do its job.

"Some 1,200 Jews, residents and refugees from other Balkan countries, were hidden by Albanian families during the war, according to official records." This article is written in Haaretz, a israeli newspaper. This fact is written in all the newspapers of the world, except Serbia. Stop the propaganda againts Albanians.

Pathetic Albanian-American threats. Pathetic and not worth the salt.

Of course they want him sacked because he is good and represents Serbia's interests.

They should keep their noses out.

I don't think the US should be in a position to say this. Since Kosovo declared independence, Jeremic has been a constant thorn in Kosovo's side and the US knows this. This means that Jeremic is really good at his job.

However the US has over stepped it's mark here. They shouldn't be saying this. I think many people in the world would agree with me when I say that George W Bush should have taken out of his position of power. At least Vuk Jeremic legitimately got his job unlike George W Bush. We all know what Daddy and friends did in Florida.

At the end of the day Jeremic is good at his job and thus good for Serbia.

The whole problem is that Serbia did not buckle under to the wishes of the US. They are fighting for their land, and the US just can't stand it. Sorry, America, the Serbs are not lap-dogs. They (Srbi) have pride, the Albanians have historically sided with - Ottomans, Nazis, and now the US. But inevitably, the Albanains have chose the wrong friends and gift-bearers, and have paid dearly. History surely does repeat itself.

Svojgazda,

"FM Jeremic, and the government he represents, are democratically elected and appointed officils by the citizens of Serbia."

Lets not forget that Slobodan Milosevic was the democratically elected president of Serbia too.

This is what happens when you appoint a young Harvard grad just out of school as your FM, he's out to change the world with his 'brilliant" ideas.

Tadic and Jeremic need to chose. If they continue down this road they are going to end up with neither the support of Russia nor that of the EU/US.

The EU/US have made it crystal clear that when/if serbia submitts a resolution calling for new negociations before the UN general assembly, that will be the last straw.

Vuk must be doing something right!

quasistate: The Albanians did never side with the Ottomans or the Nazis. On the contrary, Albanians helped to clear Yugoslavia out of Nazis. Please stop with the propaganda.

Mike,

Albania carries the same weight Serbia does. It is a UN member country with the right to propose resolutions before the UN General Assembly.

You don't scare anyone with your threats, quasistate. Albanians choose themselves their own friends. Don't try to scare the Eagles. Albanians did not side with the Nazis. Every one knows Albanins saved thousands of Hebrews during the war.

Oh please. This is an indirect effort to help Jeremic keep his job.

Americans may not like Vuk but they know that if they ask for his head it only strengthen Vuk's position.

I think Vuk is spreading rumors that Americans are after him.

Methinks, the Serbs will be soon after him. He started well, but screwed it up with the ICJ affair.

Now, supposedly a resolution of the GA would do the trick.

The Albanians did never side with the Ottomans or the Nazis. On the contrary, Albanians helped to clear Yugoslavia out of Nazis. Please stop with the propaganda.

For the benefit of the ignorant and delusional:

http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=1927

SS Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS Skanderbeg (albanische Nr. 1) was formed in 1944 and consisted mainly of volunteers from Albaina and Kosovo

Known war crimes
Elements of this division were used in operations against Jews in Albania at the order of SS-Gruppenführer Josef Fitzthum, Höhere SS und Polizeiführer Albanien.

Poor old Vuk give it a year and they'll want him to face trumped up charges in the Hague. The American's need a new bad guy... scarey nasty Vuk... then a fabricated atrocity... and then you guessed it another bombing campaign. The only issue is whether Russia, China and the rest of the sane world have enough muscle to put the psycho back in the box.

My concern is the comment about a possible American 'Albanian' resolution. I think we might be looking at a greater Albania here. Or enough provacation to push Serbia into protecting the Serbs of Kosovo so they can power up those bombers again.

Maybe they want to mark the centenary of the first world war with another one in 2014.

What a corrupt and shameful country America really is.

"Of course they want him sacked because he is good and represents Serbia's interests.

They should keep their noses out.
(kate, 26 July 2010 11:35) "

I too think that they should keep him - so far he has been great for K. albanian cause.

Typical American bully bot and hypocritical tactics. They believe no law is right unless it's what they (USA and poodles) say. Look long and hard Serbia before you give up your democracy by joining the'free, democratic,
wonderful' lands of the EU/NATO. Imagine what they would do if they really had control of you!! Ask Russia to site military bases on you land to counterbalance the cowards in Washington. Then you'll see some repect from NATO otherwise they'' treat you like slaves.

I too think that they should keep him - so far he has been great for K. albanian cause.
(nikshala, 26 July 2010 14:34)

Not so fast...

Despite the ICJ he has flown around the world and kept quite a few nations from recognizing the fake state of "Kosova."

That is work well done in this gal's opinion.

But of course..US would rather post bar bouncer or person fron interpols most wanted list..like they did with albanians,so they could push them around..
But Campbridge and Harvard educated Vuk is thorn on their side,just beacouse he knows the game they are playing and he`ll play them without paying their fat lobbyist like albanians do..

who cares what a broke america says they are irrelevant NOW and as if they dont know that ,china,russia,india,brazl ARE THE 4 PACK POWER HOUSE and they will not recognise kosovo just like all the massive countries on earth and whats next i think california and texas will be independent and join their native Mexico soon, and republica srpska will join serbia soon and krajina should have all the people return to their ancient lands and get full autonomy and then independence as soon as possible, and the greeks should get their north empirus from albania and since it has a 70% greek population that should be next also so lets all watch the world tumble.

"U.S. wants Serbian FM sacked"

...and I want a big Pizza - RIGHT NOW! ;-)

It would seem the US and Serbian opposition parties want Jeremic sacked for two different reasons. The US thinks he's too "obstructive" and possibly too dangerous. I can't blame them. Jeremic represents the best/worst parts of Serbia that refuse to bend over and take it up the rear. The opposition parties probably think he's too incompetent, and are jockeying for an internal shuffle of power.

"The U.S. and EU are demanding that Serbia does not insist on a UN resolution, or at least not on a text that would insist on status talks. If Serbia still decides to submit its resolution, the U.S. or Albania would submit their resolution, but do not say what it would contain," the newspaper quoted its source. (B92)

-- That's rich. What weight does Albania carry? If the US, EU, or Albania still feel they can't maneuver around Belgrade after the ICJ ruling, they don't know what to do with their legal advantage.

Serbia wants Clinton sacked.

Any compromise America?

Lets see I am receiving a lot of complaints from my countrymen that I am responsible for the fiasco at the ICJ, what do I do?
I Know we will release information that I have upset the US and they consider me a threat that will get the people back into believing that I am the best thing for Serbia.
One question, who was it that supposedly sent this message to Belgrade?

I think that he is rather cute.
I don't know anyone who would think of Vuce as threating in any way, shape or form.
In fact he reminds me of this lovely character from my childhood.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/G36Y2uAFTQw/0.jpg

I have to say how happy I am with the ICJ decision and how it was carelessly manipulated. The US shot itself in the foot and also weakened the DS party. The patriots will benefit from it greatly.

However, the major victory will be to expose just how weak the independence movement really is. After such a "major" victory at the ICJ and with a big push towards recognition, they will achieve practically zero. It will solidly demonstrate that independence is irreversibly blocked and that any further attempts to push it is a waste of time and a bigger waste of much needed funds.

The negotiating table is the only way. Everything else is just a silly game.

If this is true, those news will keep Jeremic even safer in office. Just imagine that the US would specifically require that he has to go. This would implicitely say that he is a threat.

I wouldn`t be surprised when the real source of this is the foreign ministry of Serbia. After the defeat at the ICJ, the current Serbian administration is in deep trouble and with Kostunicas comments today it would make sense.

Lies and rumors are all around. It smells like elections in Serbia.

Mike,

Albania carries the same weight Serbia does. It is a UN member country with the right to propose resolutions before the UN General Assembly.
(Nick KS, 26 July 2010 17:05)
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What has Albania got to do with Kosovo? Again, you guys expect another country to represent you. At least Serbia can represent herself anywhere but you seem to keep on about how everyone else will do the work for you.

If you want to compare who can represent whom then at least say Albanian can represent Kosovo but Russia and China can represent Serbia. Now that's more accurate.

"Tadic is the policy maker.Jeremic is just a tool." (Mark)

-- Both Tadic and Jeremic represent a fresh alternative to the stereotypical Serbian political aparatchik that many got used to in the 1990s. I believe even if Serbia won the ICJ debate the US would be calling for Jeremic's "sacking". But this seems to be more sensationalist news than anything else. But if Jeremic is only a "tool", he's proven to be an invaluable "tool" because no matter what prefix the inevitable talks between Belgrade and Pristina take, Belgrade stands to gain more than it was told to accept in February 2008.

"If there is a warning coming from the US,it is for Tadic. And it clearly says" Change your behaviour. Otherwise things will go from bad to worse".

-- Right, because demands like this from the US have worked so well in the past. How long have we been trying to get rid of Castro? How successful were in in trying to get rid of Karzai? Chavez? Think about it: Jeremic is one of the few Serbian politicians that truly works for his paycheck. Plus, he's everything the West wants: young, intelligent, Harvard educated, fluent in English, etc. He's certainly set himself up to be the DS's heir apparent. Say what you want about him, but the man's far more pro-active than anyone else in the region. Furthermore, his pro-activity is coming in the form EUrocrats want to hear: negotiation, compromise, and dialogue. No mindless nationalism here. Do you really think the US is going to purposefully damage the best and most cooperative government Belgrade has provided in, well, decades? Particularly one that represents Serbia's "EU future"?

"But as an Albanian i say keep Jeremic. I am more worried of a serbian foreign minister that doesn't mention "red lines",or "never recognize".

-- Well if Jeremic is replaced and an SNS-DSS coaliton does come to power, you can expect to hear a lot more statements about "red lines" and "never recognize".

The Albanians did never side with the Ottomans or the Nazis. On the contrary, Albanians helped to clear Yugoslavia out of Nazis. Please stop with the propaganda.


Actually, Albania declared war on the United States of America when Italy moved into Albania supported by some elements.

Again, under the Ottoman empire there were Albanian supports of the empire as well as those who opposed it. (ie. Albanians who fought along with Serbs at the Battle of Kosovo) The most brutal of the Albanian clans were the part of the Jannisaries that ruled the Balkans.

I guess if the US says so then may its will be respected. Any other wishes oh mighty master of the universe?

"The U.S. and EU are demanding that Serbia does not insist on a UN resolution, or at least not on a text that would insist on status talks. If Serbia still decides to submit its resolution, the U.S. or Albania would submit their resolution, but do not say what it would contain," the newspaper quoted its source"

It doesn't matter if this article is true or not,as far as I'm concerned it's irrelevant but one thing is for sure that K+Albania never had better friends on their side than today.

The USA wants the whole nation of Serbia "sacked"; that is why Serbia needs to stand strong and stand united. God bless Serbia.

"When did the US administration obtain a mandate from the Serb electorate ?"

-When the serbs "accepted" a western puppet regime. Obviously the US demands the right to control what they purchased. Nothing wrong with that. If you want a independent sovereign government, if aanything such exist, you should vote for that.

-- That's rich. What weight does Albania carry? If the US, EU, or Albania still feel they can't maneuver around Belgrade after the ICJ ruling, they don't know what to do with their legal advantage.
(Mike, 26 July 2010 16:24)

Mike to be honest with, you every-time I hear someone who considers himself a moderate Serb, such as yourself, have the same cocky attitude or Serb will outsmart Albanians any-day attitude as the countless hardcore ultra-nationalist Serbs I feel more confident in our cause. This neglect on our abilities and this overconfidence on yours is an attitude that has really done wonders for us so far, especially considering where we started an where we are. Frankly I am happy that this mentality is not only alive in Serbia but is really kicking. That is very good news for this side of the isle; and I've had the chance to confirm it many many times this week from other posts of yours and from other posts of the Serb camp. Honestly speaking that kind of attitude is exactly the same suicidal attitude Serbia has been employing for decades as its foreign policy and it really has worked on our advantage. I see more good things to come for us as a result of that.

America said that it wants Serbia’s Foreign Minister to be sacked, and there are people who think that this could easily be just for show.

There are many think that even though Vuk Jeremic is from a less Patriotic Political Party, he should continue to be the Foreign Minister of Serbia.

This is because if he was to be sacked, or he resigns, then it would make it look like he failed, and it would make it look like that the ICJ opinion orders Independence for Kosovo.

I do not think that anyone should blame even the Serbian Government for what a majority of ICJ Judges said.

This is because the majority of the ICJ Judges were from the countries that broke International Law in the first place,; and the bias was firstly predictable, and secondly it was shown to be real.

Stop flattering yourselves with this kind of made up news. If you think that Jeremic is a tough match for the US you are wrong. It will take Billions of Jeremics to take US down diplomaticaly. Last thursday Jeremic hit the wall hard. In September he will hit it even harder. Tadic is the policy maker.Jeremic is just a tool. If there is a warning coming from the US,it is for Tadic. And it clearly says" Change your behaviour. Otherwise things will go from bad to worse". But as an Albanian i say keep Jeremic. I am more worried of a serbian foreign minister that doesn't mention "red lines",or "never recognize".

Mike
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Amer made a few points in a previous comments. I don't know whether they're correct, but if they are, then Jeremic is not nearly as good as you believe.

From this end, if I remember correctly, Jeremic started his negotiations career by walking out of the negotiating table (in 2007) more than once. I'm sure the parties involved found that charming.

Then he proceeds in talking about status negotiations while in the same breath claiming that Serbia will never recognize an independent Kosovo.

Then he proceeds to ask ICJ-s opinion and in the same breath claims that it would not pay heed to the court's decision if it turned against Serbia.

Then we have the countless, unnecessary, obnoxious boycotts of regional conferences even though everyone involved knew full well that Serbia did not recognize Kosovo's independence and was not expected to do so.

To top it all off...the underwhelming number of conciliatory statements by Belgrade towards the civilian victims of the Kosovo war...which in my book is a bare minimum.

In summary, Jeremic has put on quite a theater show for the nationalist wing of Serbia over the past few years, but effective diplomacy?

I kinda doubt it...time will tell though.

RE; Albanian Declaration war against the United States of America in World War II

Croatia is also included in the list, through all the turmoil in the former Yugoslavia and Serbia; the nation's representatives from the King Peter I exiled in London to Milan Nedic, head of the Serbian Quisling temporary government never declared war against the United States of America.

Woodrow Wilson, former President of the United States created Albania and then declare war on the US.

See below for the US congressional excerpt;


Whereas the Government of Germany has formally declared war against the government and people of the United States of America:

Therefore, be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, that the state of war between the United States and the Government of Germany which has thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally declared; and the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the government to carry on war against the Government of Germany; and to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States."

Joint Resolution of the Congress Approved, December 11, 1941

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Hungary breaks diplomatic relations with the United States of America.

Mexico breaks relations with Germany and Italy.

The Netherlands declares war on Italy.

Poland declares war on Japan.

December 12 Bulgaria, Hungary and Slovakia declare war on the United States of America and Great Britain.

Haiti, El Salvador and Panama declare war on Germany and Italy.

Romania declares war on the United States of America.

December 13 Great Britain, New Zealand and the Union of South Africa declare war on Bulgaria.

Honduras declares war on Germany and Italy.

Italy declares war on Cuba and Guatemala.

December 14 Croatia declares war on the United States of America.

December 15 Egypt breaks diplomatic relations with Hungary and Romania.

December 16 Czechoslovakia declares war on all countries at war with the United States of America, Great Britain and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

December 17 Albania declares war on the United States of America.

This is a rumour deliberately spread by the "blic" newspaper which is a DS propaganda tool.
Some want Jeremic out,nut not the Americans but apparatchicks within the DS who want this lucrative post and say that he harmed Serbia interests by going to the court,a typical intrigue.
This DS regime must be replaced,their Kosovo policy has been OK so far but they really left the economy in a terrible shape.
Let`s try Nikolic and the SNS...

One has to be less than naive but plain out stupid to believe there is any truth to this article.
More unnamed sources. at least insist on credible journalism. I know this will never reach print, but whatever.

Why so much contempt against this article?
All US is saying is that if there was a way for Serbia to finally accept the reality, Jeremic is not the one who can do it. Isn't why the angry crowd here also think that Jeremic should stay where he is? So I don't see the contradiction here, as both sides agree that Jeremic is a hard-core nationalist.
As per being "sacked" that is a headline added by B92.

"U.S. wants Serbian FM sacked"

Only if the sniper dodger is willing to perform the actual surgery.

This is a great endorsement of Jeremic actually! Govt's that stall EU integration, attacked Serbia, and have policies aggressive to the country are highlighting a 'guy' they CAN'T work with! BRAVO VUK!! Srpski Heroj!!

American's do not support what our government is doing in Serbia or our on Country.

Everyone from Kosovo to China is calling for discussions, dialogue, whatever, to finally resolve the problems between Serbia and Kosovo. Jeremic has proved himself to be untruthful - when Biden visited Belgrade he refused to have Jeremic in meetings because Jeremic had fibbed about having met with Washington officials during a visit, when in fact he had been snubbed. He also told Western diplomats that Serbia was only going to go through the motions with its appeal to the ICJ, then made it the center of its foreign policy. The French president called off a visit to Belgrade because of this.

If there are going to be negotiations, the U.S. is demanding a negotiator it can trust.

It couldn't ask for Mr. Jeremic to be replaced when there was a chance he would be successful at the ICJ, since it would seem to be an attempt to weaken Serbia. Now he has failed, there's no reason not to call for a change.

There's no reason to destroy the guy's reputation entirely by making the reason for calling for his replacement a front-page story, since his problem is that he is simply too inexperienced for the position he holds. In a normal government, he'd be a an assistant to an assistant and his tendency to overstate and shade the truth would be dealt with quietly and in-house, without affecting his country's reputation.

quasistate: The Albanians did never side with the Ottomans or the Nazis. On the contrary, Albanians helped to clear Yugoslavia out of Nazis. Please stop with the propaganda.
(Eto, 26 July 2010 13:40)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00t3ybj/Hitlers_Muslim_Legions/

This was taken from the BBC radio 4 tonight 8pm from the IPLAYER.

Branko/uk

American's do not support what our government is doing in Serbia or our on Country.
(GW, 26 July 2010 18:06)
You might want to check outside the Serbian neighborhoods of Chicago for a more representative view. I have yet to hear anyone condemn our stance on Kosovo-Serbia.

What has Albania got to do with Kosovo?


(Peggy, 26 July 2010 23:02) "

Everything, they are one and same.

My question to you will be: ' What does serbs and Albanians have in comon?", Absoluately NOTHING.

And Hillary Clinton was in Georgia demanding that Russia wrest over control of liberated territories..

That's how serious i'm starting to take everything..

Jeremic is doing a fine job.
If only all the other politicians did it with the same vigour...

"In summary, Jeremic has put on quite a theater show for the nationalist wing of Serbia over the past few years." (Ment)

-- I can't say I envy his job. He's got to balance that fine line between not appearing soft but at the same time appearing able to compromise. Walking out on meetings and snubbing summits has yielded a mixed bag for Belgrade. On one level they appear stubborn and intractable, but at the same time they're sending a message that basically implies a lasting solution to Kosovo, in whatever capacity it ends up being, cannot be realized without dealing with Belgrade. Bottom line, they're going to get something out of the deal.

And can you actually picture anyone else in his position that wouldn't walk out? Remember Slobodan Samardzic? Granted he was a lot more open about only preserving the north, but he's from the SANU generation. Let's see when and if Vuk's actions pay off.

"And Nikolic is already a frequent guest in Brussels:)"
(genc)

-- Now that would just be funny if a final settlement over Kosovo is reached under Toma's watch. The reaction from Seselj itself would be worth it :)

Another way we can put it is this: if the EU is even communication with Nikolic over Kosovo, one must wonder what Belgrade stands to gain if it takes "status" off the table. It can't just be EU membership...

"What has Albania got to do with Kosovo?" lol wow Peggy you must have been living in a cave if you don't see the connection Albania and the Kosovo ALBANIANS have in common.

So it ok for Serbia to meddle in Bosnia and other Blakan nations because Serbs live there, but albania can't do the same for it's people living in Kosovo. Very immature of you.

Seems like Jeremic immediately after the ICJ verdict went to write this article himself. You know since he failed miserably fabricating rumors that the US wants him sacked would mean that he's such a great and intelligent politician that the US would want him sacked. I guess everyone needs an ego boost after such a great defeat. Not only that but one needs a huge PR campaign to maintain the states he had prior to humiliating defeats. What's better than saying the US wants me out. I assure you that this article would have the same effects if it appeared on an N. Korean paper and stated the US is requesting the removal of Kim Jong Il. Imagine the support Kim would get after that, for showing those Americans how great of a politician he is, and how much he loves his country that those yankees want him out. Self-serving yes; but a very effective article that reaches the goal of brainwashing the masses into believing a man responsible for disasters is just what they want because the US doesn't want him.

"quasistate: The Albanians did never side with the Ottomans or the Nazis. On the contrary, Albanians helped to clear Yugoslavia out of Nazis. Please stop with the propaganda.
(Eto, 26 July 2010 13:40)

[link]/

This was taken from the BBC radio 4 tonight 8pm from the IPLAYER.

Branko/uk"

B92 didn't publish me earlier comment. Let's see if they publish this one.

- Branko, I have 2 questions for you:
1. What does the link you provided have to with this article?
2. What does the link have to do with Albanians?
I watched all of 28 minutes and 40 seconds of the video and there was no mention of Albanians whatsoever.

Are you trying to spread propaganda?

As an Albanian from Kosova I want to be reprezented by Albania at the UN and not Kosova ( Albanian region ).

-- Well if Jeremic is replaced and an SNS-DSS coaliton does come to power, you can expect to hear a lot more statements about "red lines" and "never recognize".
(Mike, 26 July 2010 17:09)

In fact Mike, there are the hardliners who make the deals. Check the history of conflicts around the world, Rabin-Arafat first of all. The hardliners do not fear losing ground to the hardliners, that's why they have much room for manoeuvring. I don't think the DS-leaders have the guts to reach a deal about Kosovo, just because of that.

And Nikolic is already a frequent guest in Brussels:)

Leave Vuk Jeremic's destiny with the Serbian People. I am sick of being told what to do and how to vote. Do not need remote democracy

So it ok for Serbia to meddle in Bosnia and other Blakan nations because Serbs live there, but albania can't do the same for it's people living in Kosovo. Very immature of you.
(AJ, 27 July 2010 03:18)
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Serbia isn't meddling. Dodik is quite capable of looking after his own affairs. Now Belgrade "meddling" in K-Serb affairs is another thing because Kosovo is part of Serbia and those Serbs have the right to be represented by their government.

Now where exactly is Serbia "meddling"?

What? The wrong kind of democracy for Washington and Brussels again? Pure BS! If you replace the 'a' in sacked with an 'u', then this is far more likely than for Jeremic to stand down because of what these foreigners want.

So what can they do? Tell the ICTY in the Hague to invite Jeremic to the Netherlands for an interview and keep him on made up charges? Bomb Belgrade? Stop ratification of the SAA by EU ms? So far only words. Rough actions will only damage the pro-EU government in Belgrade further, unless that is what they want.

Just another mighty wind blowing in from the West.

Albania has a lot to do with Kosovo Peggy. Albania will intervene since Serbia, Russia and China do not wish Kosovo to have a voice.

Our help from the West is retribution for what Kosovo has had to go through under Serbia. This notion that we are helpless and dependent on the West or Serbs are arrogant and silly. Slobodans Yugoslavia could not silence us, and neither will Serbia. Proof of our power lies in history and the future. Albania as an Albanian state is prospering and we do not take oppresion likely, as witnissed in Macedonia, and Kosovo.

You can be represented by whoever you like. If you deem your country worthy of being represented by two failing world powers, then so be it. Both are ideal authoritarians looking for their own interests. Russia cant even afford a war in Georgia, and Chinas military is busy keeping the country glued.

What has Albania got to do with Kosovo?


(Peggy, 26 July 2010 23:02) "

Everything, they are one and same.

My question to you will be: ' What does serbs and Albanians have in comon?", Absoluately NOTHING.
(Kosova-USA, 27 July 2010 12:35)
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Is it the same as if RS asked Serbia to represent it or is it the same as K-Serbs having Serbia represent them?

"What has Albania got to do with Kosovo?


(Peggy, 26 July 2010 23:02) "

More interesting is the question, what interest do Albania and the United States share relative to Kosovo such that either one could present a resolution before the GA? Undoing the injustice done to Albania in 1912, when the western part of the Albanian-inhabited territory was given to Serbia by the Great Powers, is an obvious answer.

Tadic likes to talk about "one side getting everything and the other side getting nothing," but that's silly - in addition to extraordinary provisions for minority Serbs, protection of cultural landmarks, etc., Serbia got a pledge in the Kosovo declaration of independence that the country would not seek to join any other country. (Guess which one.) On the other hand, if Serbia intends to block Kosovo permanently from achieving statehood, it is feared that the region will become unstable. Transferring the problem territory to an existing state and UN member will avoid all the problems and precedents associated with recognizing a brand-new state. It might be better for the world as a whole to release Kosovo from its Ahtisaari-imposed agreement by means of a GA resolution, to show it has the world's - including Serbia's - consent. (North Mitrovica would probably be left with Serbia; as for Presevo - who knows.)

Personally, I think it would be better for the U.S. to present the resolution, since it doesn't stand to gain territory from the border change. The U.S. could suggest the idea, and Albania could gracefully agree to take responsibility for the territory and population.

There's no need even to worry about coming up with a new flag design - the Kosovars already have a good stock of Albanian flags on hand and seem perfectly happy to wave them on every possible occasion.

What has Albania got to do with Kosovo?


(Peggy, 26 July 2010 23:02) "

Everything, they are one and same.
(Kosova-USA-
-Please do NOT insult the land Kosovo.

The Evil from Washington is insisting that the world does as it says. Who may I ask, are they to dictate to others? Just look at the crap they have on their plate, all the places in the world they have brought death and mayhem, and they are "insisting" on something from another sovereign nation. It makes me want to puke when I think of all the misery this Evil from Washington is responsible for. KEEP YOUR UNWANTED NOSES IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY! You have a multitude of problems there, let other nations take care of their own affairs. You (US)obviously are horrible in internation affairs, just look at your track record since WWII. Mr. Jeremic has every right to press forward with the agenda of his government. Can foreign nations around the world demand Klintonka's resignation, because they don't like her policies, and because there are members in her own government that disagree with her? This request from the Evil in Washington is beyond gall, it is a pure attempt at being the world's dictator. What happened to democracy, America?

quasistate: The Albanians did never side with the Ottomans or the Nazis. On the contrary, Albanians helped to clear Yugoslavia out of Nazis. Please stop with the propaganda.

"My country tis of thee, sweet land of liberty". I am ashamed to be an American, when I hear these kind of dictatorial comments coming out of DC. FM Jeremic, and the government he represents, are democratically elected and appointed officils by the citizens of Serbia. Is DC trying to overrule the Serbian people's freedom of choice? The US State Dept. has set up, and supports terrorist murderers in Pristina, yet they disapprove of politicians that want to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country. I would respect my country more if they just came out and said, "We insist on every nation in the world behaving in the way that we want, no ifs, ands, or buts".

"The U.S. and EU are demanding that Serbia does not insist on a UN resolution, or at least not on a text that would insist on status talks. If Serbia still decides to submit its resolution, the U.S. or Albania would submit their resolution, but do not say what it would contain," the newspaper quoted its source."

Just exactly who on earth do these countries think they are??? This is just the most arrogant and typically bullheaded stance I think I have ever seeen! How do the US come to the position where they feel they have the right to demand who is the FM for another country?? When did the US administration obtain a mandate from the Serb electorate ? This just goes to demonstrate exactly how the US thinks of itself. America, spend a bit more time getting your own house in order before you poke your noses into things that have nothing to do with you. You shout so loud about democracy and the like and yet you try to dictate to other countries who should or shouldnt be in their government! I hope with all my heart that those in charge in Serbia ignore this US stance completely. Let democracy do its job.

Of course they want him sacked because he is good and represents Serbia's interests.

They should keep their noses out.

Pathetic Albanian-American threats. Pathetic and not worth the salt.

The whole problem is that Serbia did not buckle under to the wishes of the US. They are fighting for their land, and the US just can't stand it. Sorry, America, the Serbs are not lap-dogs. They (Srbi) have pride, the Albanians have historically sided with - Ottomans, Nazis, and now the US. But inevitably, the Albanains have chose the wrong friends and gift-bearers, and have paid dearly. History surely does repeat itself.

Svojgazda,

"FM Jeremic, and the government he represents, are democratically elected and appointed officils by the citizens of Serbia."

Lets not forget that Slobodan Milosevic was the democratically elected president of Serbia too.

This is what happens when you appoint a young Harvard grad just out of school as your FM, he's out to change the world with his 'brilliant" ideas.

Tadic and Jeremic need to chose. If they continue down this road they are going to end up with neither the support of Russia nor that of the EU/US.

The EU/US have made it crystal clear that when/if serbia submitts a resolution calling for new negociations before the UN general assembly, that will be the last straw.

I too think that they should keep him - so far he has been great for K. albanian cause.
(nikshala, 26 July 2010 14:34)

Not so fast...

Despite the ICJ he has flown around the world and kept quite a few nations from recognizing the fake state of "Kosova."

That is work well done in this gal's opinion.

You don't scare anyone with your threats, quasistate. Albanians choose themselves their own friends. Don't try to scare the Eagles. Albanians did not side with the Nazis. Every one knows Albanins saved thousands of Hebrews during the war.

Poor old Vuk give it a year and they'll want him to face trumped up charges in the Hague. The American's need a new bad guy... scarey nasty Vuk... then a fabricated atrocity... and then you guessed it another bombing campaign. The only issue is whether Russia, China and the rest of the sane world have enough muscle to put the psycho back in the box.

My concern is the comment about a possible American 'Albanian' resolution. I think we might be looking at a greater Albania here. Or enough provacation to push Serbia into protecting the Serbs of Kosovo so they can power up those bombers again.

Maybe they want to mark the centenary of the first world war with another one in 2014.

What a corrupt and shameful country America really is.

Oh please. This is an indirect effort to help Jeremic keep his job.

Americans may not like Vuk but they know that if they ask for his head it only strengthen Vuk's position.

I think Vuk is spreading rumors that Americans are after him.

Methinks, the Serbs will be soon after him. He started well, but screwed it up with the ICJ affair.

Now, supposedly a resolution of the GA would do the trick.

"Some 1,200 Jews, residents and refugees from other Balkan countries, were hidden by Albanian families during the war, according to official records." This article is written in Haaretz, a israeli newspaper. This fact is written in all the newspapers of the world, except Serbia. Stop the propaganda againts Albanians.

Typical American bully bot and hypocritical tactics. They believe no law is right unless it's what they (USA and poodles) say. Look long and hard Serbia before you give up your democracy by joining the'free, democratic,
wonderful' lands of the EU/NATO. Imagine what they would do if they really had control of you!! Ask Russia to site military bases on you land to counterbalance the cowards in Washington. Then you'll see some repect from NATO otherwise they'' treat you like slaves.

I have to say how happy I am with the ICJ decision and how it was carelessly manipulated. The US shot itself in the foot and also weakened the DS party. The patriots will benefit from it greatly.

However, the major victory will be to expose just how weak the independence movement really is. After such a "major" victory at the ICJ and with a big push towards recognition, they will achieve practically zero. It will solidly demonstrate that independence is irreversibly blocked and that any further attempts to push it is a waste of time and a bigger waste of much needed funds.

The negotiating table is the only way. Everything else is just a silly game.

One has to be less than naive but plain out stupid to believe there is any truth to this article.
More unnamed sources. at least insist on credible journalism. I know this will never reach print, but whatever.

Vuk must be doing something right!

The Albanians did never side with the Ottomans or the Nazis. On the contrary, Albanians helped to clear Yugoslavia out of Nazis. Please stop with the propaganda.

For the benefit of the ignorant and delusional:

http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=1927

SS Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS Skanderbeg (albanische Nr. 1) was formed in 1944 and consisted mainly of volunteers from Albaina and Kosovo

Known war crimes
Elements of this division were used in operations against Jews in Albania at the order of SS-Gruppenführer Josef Fitzthum, Höhere SS und Polizeiführer Albanien.

It would seem the US and Serbian opposition parties want Jeremic sacked for two different reasons. The US thinks he's too "obstructive" and possibly too dangerous. I can't blame them. Jeremic represents the best/worst parts of Serbia that refuse to bend over and take it up the rear. The opposition parties probably think he's too incompetent, and are jockeying for an internal shuffle of power.

"The U.S. and EU are demanding that Serbia does not insist on a UN resolution, or at least not on a text that would insist on status talks. If Serbia still decides to submit its resolution, the U.S. or Albania would submit their resolution, but do not say what it would contain," the newspaper quoted its source. (B92)

-- That's rich. What weight does Albania carry? If the US, EU, or Albania still feel they can't maneuver around Belgrade after the ICJ ruling, they don't know what to do with their legal advantage.

If this is true then it is outrageous. How would Washington react if Tadic called for Biden's sacking?

However the cynic inside me says that it could be someone in the DS attempting to shore up Vuk's credibility in the wake of the ICJ decision.

Then again you can never put anything past the arrogant Yanks.

Honest, I do not know what to think.

If Biden wants him out, then he must be doing something right. A general rule of thumb for Serbia's politicians should be to do the exact opposite of whatever the US/Germany wants, and for sure they will be going in the right direction. They have shown over and over and over again that they are not our friends, and want to do us nothing but harm.

I don't think the US should be in a position to say this. Since Kosovo declared independence, Jeremic has been a constant thorn in Kosovo's side and the US knows this. This means that Jeremic is really good at his job.

However the US has over stepped it's mark here. They shouldn't be saying this. I think many people in the world would agree with me when I say that George W Bush should have taken out of his position of power. At least Vuk Jeremic legitimately got his job unlike George W Bush. We all know what Daddy and friends did in Florida.

At the end of the day Jeremic is good at his job and thus good for Serbia.

"U.S. wants Serbian FM sacked"

...and I want a big Pizza - RIGHT NOW! ;-)

The Albanians did never side with the Ottomans or the Nazis. On the contrary, Albanians helped to clear Yugoslavia out of Nazis. Please stop with the propaganda.


Actually, Albania declared war on the United States of America when Italy moved into Albania supported by some elements.

Again, under the Ottoman empire there were Albanian supports of the empire as well as those who opposed it. (ie. Albanians who fought along with Serbs at the Battle of Kosovo) The most brutal of the Albanian clans were the part of the Jannisaries that ruled the Balkans.

Mike,

Albania carries the same weight Serbia does. It is a UN member country with the right to propose resolutions before the UN General Assembly.
(Nick KS, 26 July 2010 17:05)
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What has Albania got to do with Kosovo? Again, you guys expect another country to represent you. At least Serbia can represent herself anywhere but you seem to keep on about how everyone else will do the work for you.

If you want to compare who can represent whom then at least say Albanian can represent Kosovo but Russia and China can represent Serbia. Now that's more accurate.

"When did the US administration obtain a mandate from the Serb electorate ?"

-When the serbs "accepted" a western puppet regime. Obviously the US demands the right to control what they purchased. Nothing wrong with that. If you want a independent sovereign government, if aanything such exist, you should vote for that.

Why so much contempt against this article?
All US is saying is that if there was a way for Serbia to finally accept the reality, Jeremic is not the one who can do it. Isn't why the angry crowd here also think that Jeremic should stay where he is? So I don't see the contradiction here, as both sides agree that Jeremic is a hard-core nationalist.
As per being "sacked" that is a headline added by B92.

who cares what a broke america says they are irrelevant NOW and as if they dont know that ,china,russia,india,brazl ARE THE 4 PACK POWER HOUSE and they will not recognise kosovo just like all the massive countries on earth and whats next i think california and texas will be independent and join their native Mexico soon, and republica srpska will join serbia soon and krajina should have all the people return to their ancient lands and get full autonomy and then independence as soon as possible, and the greeks should get their north empirus from albania and since it has a 70% greek population that should be next also so lets all watch the world tumble.

The USA wants the whole nation of Serbia "sacked"; that is why Serbia needs to stand strong and stand united. God bless Serbia.

"Of course they want him sacked because he is good and represents Serbia's interests.

They should keep their noses out.
(kate, 26 July 2010 11:35) "

I too think that they should keep him - so far he has been great for K. albanian cause.

What has Albania got to do with Kosovo?


(Peggy, 26 July 2010 23:02) "

Everything, they are one and same.

My question to you will be: ' What does serbs and Albanians have in comon?", Absoluately NOTHING.

I think that he is rather cute.
I don't know anyone who would think of Vuce as threating in any way, shape or form.
In fact he reminds me of this lovely character from my childhood.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/G36Y2uAFTQw/0.jpg

Seems like Jeremic immediately after the ICJ verdict went to write this article himself. You know since he failed miserably fabricating rumors that the US wants him sacked would mean that he's such a great and intelligent politician that the US would want him sacked. I guess everyone needs an ego boost after such a great defeat. Not only that but one needs a huge PR campaign to maintain the states he had prior to humiliating defeats. What's better than saying the US wants me out. I assure you that this article would have the same effects if it appeared on an N. Korean paper and stated the US is requesting the removal of Kim Jong Il. Imagine the support Kim would get after that, for showing those Americans how great of a politician he is, and how much he loves his country that those yankees want him out. Self-serving yes; but a very effective article that reaches the goal of brainwashing the masses into believing a man responsible for disasters is just what they want because the US doesn't want him.

Stop flattering yourselves with this kind of made up news. If you think that Jeremic is a tough match for the US you are wrong. It will take Billions of Jeremics to take US down diplomaticaly. Last thursday Jeremic hit the wall hard. In September he will hit it even harder. Tadic is the policy maker.Jeremic is just a tool. If there is a warning coming from the US,it is for Tadic. And it clearly says" Change your behaviour. Otherwise things will go from bad to worse". But as an Albanian i say keep Jeremic. I am more worried of a serbian foreign minister that doesn't mention "red lines",or "never recognize".

"Tadic is the policy maker.Jeremic is just a tool." (Mark)

-- Both Tadic and Jeremic represent a fresh alternative to the stereotypical Serbian political aparatchik that many got used to in the 1990s. I believe even if Serbia won the ICJ debate the US would be calling for Jeremic's "sacking". But this seems to be more sensationalist news than anything else. But if Jeremic is only a "tool", he's proven to be an invaluable "tool" because no matter what prefix the inevitable talks between Belgrade and Pristina take, Belgrade stands to gain more than it was told to accept in February 2008.

"If there is a warning coming from the US,it is for Tadic. And it clearly says" Change your behaviour. Otherwise things will go from bad to worse".

-- Right, because demands like this from the US have worked so well in the past. How long have we been trying to get rid of Castro? How successful were in in trying to get rid of Karzai? Chavez? Think about it: Jeremic is one of the few Serbian politicians that truly works for his paycheck. Plus, he's everything the West wants: young, intelligent, Harvard educated, fluent in English, etc. He's certainly set himself up to be the DS's heir apparent. Say what you want about him, but the man's far more pro-active than anyone else in the region. Furthermore, his pro-activity is coming in the form EUrocrats want to hear: negotiation, compromise, and dialogue. No mindless nationalism here. Do you really think the US is going to purposefully damage the best and most cooperative government Belgrade has provided in, well, decades? Particularly one that represents Serbia's "EU future"?

"But as an Albanian i say keep Jeremic. I am more worried of a serbian foreign minister that doesn't mention "red lines",or "never recognize".

-- Well if Jeremic is replaced and an SNS-DSS coaliton does come to power, you can expect to hear a lot more statements about "red lines" and "never recognize".

-- That's rich. What weight does Albania carry? If the US, EU, or Albania still feel they can't maneuver around Belgrade after the ICJ ruling, they don't know what to do with their legal advantage.
(Mike, 26 July 2010 16:24)

Mike to be honest with, you every-time I hear someone who considers himself a moderate Serb, such as yourself, have the same cocky attitude or Serb will outsmart Albanians any-day attitude as the countless hardcore ultra-nationalist Serbs I feel more confident in our cause. This neglect on our abilities and this overconfidence on yours is an attitude that has really done wonders for us so far, especially considering where we started an where we are. Frankly I am happy that this mentality is not only alive in Serbia but is really kicking. That is very good news for this side of the isle; and I've had the chance to confirm it many many times this week from other posts of yours and from other posts of the Serb camp. Honestly speaking that kind of attitude is exactly the same suicidal attitude Serbia has been employing for decades as its foreign policy and it really has worked on our advantage. I see more good things to come for us as a result of that.

Serbia wants Clinton sacked.

Any compromise America?

Lets see I am receiving a lot of complaints from my countrymen that I am responsible for the fiasco at the ICJ, what do I do?
I Know we will release information that I have upset the US and they consider me a threat that will get the people back into believing that I am the best thing for Serbia.
One question, who was it that supposedly sent this message to Belgrade?

Mike,

Albania carries the same weight Serbia does. It is a UN member country with the right to propose resolutions before the UN General Assembly.

This is a rumour deliberately spread by the "blic" newspaper which is a DS propaganda tool.
Some want Jeremic out,nut not the Americans but apparatchicks within the DS who want this lucrative post and say that he harmed Serbia interests by going to the court,a typical intrigue.
This DS regime must be replaced,their Kosovo policy has been OK so far but they really left the economy in a terrible shape.
Let`s try Nikolic and the SNS...

Everyone from Kosovo to China is calling for discussions, dialogue, whatever, to finally resolve the problems between Serbia and Kosovo. Jeremic has proved himself to be untruthful - when Biden visited Belgrade he refused to have Jeremic in meetings because Jeremic had fibbed about having met with Washington officials during a visit, when in fact he had been snubbed. He also told Western diplomats that Serbia was only going to go through the motions with its appeal to the ICJ, then made it the center of its foreign policy. The French president called off a visit to Belgrade because of this.

If there are going to be negotiations, the U.S. is demanding a negotiator it can trust.

It couldn't ask for Mr. Jeremic to be replaced when there was a chance he would be successful at the ICJ, since it would seem to be an attempt to weaken Serbia. Now he has failed, there's no reason not to call for a change.

There's no reason to destroy the guy's reputation entirely by making the reason for calling for his replacement a front-page story, since his problem is that he is simply too inexperienced for the position he holds. In a normal government, he'd be a an assistant to an assistant and his tendency to overstate and shade the truth would be dealt with quietly and in-house, without affecting his country's reputation.

Mike
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Amer made a few points in a previous comments. I don't know whether they're correct, but if they are, then Jeremic is not nearly as good as you believe.

From this end, if I remember correctly, Jeremic started his negotiations career by walking out of the negotiating table (in 2007) more than once. I'm sure the parties involved found that charming.

Then he proceeds in talking about status negotiations while in the same breath claiming that Serbia will never recognize an independent Kosovo.

Then he proceeds to ask ICJ-s opinion and in the same breath claims that it would not pay heed to the court's decision if it turned against Serbia.

Then we have the countless, unnecessary, obnoxious boycotts of regional conferences even though everyone involved knew full well that Serbia did not recognize Kosovo's independence and was not expected to do so.

To top it all off...the underwhelming number of conciliatory statements by Belgrade towards the civilian victims of the Kosovo war...which in my book is a bare minimum.

In summary, Jeremic has put on quite a theater show for the nationalist wing of Serbia over the past few years, but effective diplomacy?

I kinda doubt it...time will tell though.

American's do not support what our government is doing in Serbia or our on Country.
(GW, 26 July 2010 18:06)
You might want to check outside the Serbian neighborhoods of Chicago for a more representative view. I have yet to hear anyone condemn our stance on Kosovo-Serbia.

"quasistate: The Albanians did never side with the Ottomans or the Nazis. On the contrary, Albanians helped to clear Yugoslavia out of Nazis. Please stop with the propaganda.
(Eto, 26 July 2010 13:40)

[link]/

This was taken from the BBC radio 4 tonight 8pm from the IPLAYER.

Branko/uk"

B92 didn't publish me earlier comment. Let's see if they publish this one.

- Branko, I have 2 questions for you:
1. What does the link you provided have to with this article?
2. What does the link have to do with Albanians?
I watched all of 28 minutes and 40 seconds of the video and there was no mention of Albanians whatsoever.

Are you trying to spread propaganda?

America said that it wants Serbia’s Foreign Minister to be sacked, and there are people who think that this could easily be just for show.

There are many think that even though Vuk Jeremic is from a less Patriotic Political Party, he should continue to be the Foreign Minister of Serbia.

This is because if he was to be sacked, or he resigns, then it would make it look like he failed, and it would make it look like that the ICJ opinion orders Independence for Kosovo.

I do not think that anyone should blame even the Serbian Government for what a majority of ICJ Judges said.

This is because the majority of the ICJ Judges were from the countries that broke International Law in the first place,; and the bias was firstly predictable, and secondly it was shown to be real.

But of course..US would rather post bar bouncer or person fron interpols most wanted list..like they did with albanians,so they could push them around..
But Campbridge and Harvard educated Vuk is thorn on their side,just beacouse he knows the game they are playing and he`ll play them without paying their fat lobbyist like albanians do..

RE; Albanian Declaration war against the United States of America in World War II

Croatia is also included in the list, through all the turmoil in the former Yugoslavia and Serbia; the nation's representatives from the King Peter I exiled in London to Milan Nedic, head of the Serbian Quisling temporary government never declared war against the United States of America.

Woodrow Wilson, former President of the United States created Albania and then declare war on the US.

See below for the US congressional excerpt;


Whereas the Government of Germany has formally declared war against the government and people of the United States of America:

Therefore, be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, that the state of war between the United States and the Government of Germany which has thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally declared; and the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the government to carry on war against the Government of Germany; and to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States."

Joint Resolution of the Congress Approved, December 11, 1941

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Hungary breaks diplomatic relations with the United States of America.

Mexico breaks relations with Germany and Italy.

The Netherlands declares war on Italy.

Poland declares war on Japan.

December 12 Bulgaria, Hungary and Slovakia declare war on the United States of America and Great Britain.

Haiti, El Salvador and Panama declare war on Germany and Italy.

Romania declares war on the United States of America.

December 13 Great Britain, New Zealand and the Union of South Africa declare war on Bulgaria.

Honduras declares war on Germany and Italy.

Italy declares war on Cuba and Guatemala.

December 14 Croatia declares war on the United States of America.

December 15 Egypt breaks diplomatic relations with Hungary and Romania.

December 16 Czechoslovakia declares war on all countries at war with the United States of America, Great Britain and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

December 17 Albania declares war on the United States of America.

-- Well if Jeremic is replaced and an SNS-DSS coaliton does come to power, you can expect to hear a lot more statements about "red lines" and "never recognize".
(Mike, 26 July 2010 17:09)

In fact Mike, there are the hardliners who make the deals. Check the history of conflicts around the world, Rabin-Arafat first of all. The hardliners do not fear losing ground to the hardliners, that's why they have much room for manoeuvring. I don't think the DS-leaders have the guts to reach a deal about Kosovo, just because of that.

And Nikolic is already a frequent guest in Brussels:)

quasistate: The Albanians did never side with the Ottomans or the Nazis. On the contrary, Albanians helped to clear Yugoslavia out of Nazis. Please stop with the propaganda.
(Eto, 26 July 2010 13:40)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00t3ybj/Hitlers_Muslim_Legions/

This was taken from the BBC radio 4 tonight 8pm from the IPLAYER.

Branko/uk

I guess if the US says so then may its will be respected. Any other wishes oh mighty master of the universe?

What? The wrong kind of democracy for Washington and Brussels again? Pure BS! If you replace the 'a' in sacked with an 'u', then this is far more likely than for Jeremic to stand down because of what these foreigners want.

So what can they do? Tell the ICTY in the Hague to invite Jeremic to the Netherlands for an interview and keep him on made up charges? Bomb Belgrade? Stop ratification of the SAA by EU ms? So far only words. Rough actions will only damage the pro-EU government in Belgrade further, unless that is what they want.

Just another mighty wind blowing in from the West.

Albania has a lot to do with Kosovo Peggy. Albania will intervene since Serbia, Russia and China do not wish Kosovo to have a voice.

Our help from the West is retribution for what Kosovo has had to go through under Serbia. This notion that we are helpless and dependent on the West or Serbs are arrogant and silly. Slobodans Yugoslavia could not silence us, and neither will Serbia. Proof of our power lies in history and the future. Albania as an Albanian state is prospering and we do not take oppresion likely, as witnissed in Macedonia, and Kosovo.

You can be represented by whoever you like. If you deem your country worthy of being represented by two failing world powers, then so be it. Both are ideal authoritarians looking for their own interests. Russia cant even afford a war in Georgia, and Chinas military is busy keeping the country glued.

"What has Albania got to do with Kosovo?


(Peggy, 26 July 2010 23:02) "

More interesting is the question, what interest do Albania and the United States share relative to Kosovo such that either one could present a resolution before the GA? Undoing the injustice done to Albania in 1912, when the western part of the Albanian-inhabited territory was given to Serbia by the Great Powers, is an obvious answer.

Tadic likes to talk about "one side getting everything and the other side getting nothing," but that's silly - in addition to extraordinary provisions for minority Serbs, protection of cultural landmarks, etc., Serbia got a pledge in the Kosovo declaration of independence that the country would not seek to join any other country. (Guess which one.) On the other hand, if Serbia intends to block Kosovo permanently from achieving statehood, it is feared that the region will become unstable. Transferring the problem territory to an existing state and UN member will avoid all the problems and precedents associated with recognizing a brand-new state. It might be better for the world as a whole to release Kosovo from its Ahtisaari-imposed agreement by means of a GA resolution, to show it has the world's - including Serbia's - consent. (North Mitrovica would probably be left with Serbia; as for Presevo - who knows.)

Personally, I think it would be better for the U.S. to present the resolution, since it doesn't stand to gain territory from the border change. The U.S. could suggest the idea, and Albania could gracefully agree to take responsibility for the territory and population.

There's no need even to worry about coming up with a new flag design - the Kosovars already have a good stock of Albanian flags on hand and seem perfectly happy to wave them on every possible occasion.

If this is true, those news will keep Jeremic even safer in office. Just imagine that the US would specifically require that he has to go. This would implicitely say that he is a threat.

I wouldn`t be surprised when the real source of this is the foreign ministry of Serbia. After the defeat at the ICJ, the current Serbian administration is in deep trouble and with Kostunicas comments today it would make sense.

Lies and rumors are all around. It smells like elections in Serbia.

American's do not support what our government is doing in Serbia or our on Country.

This is a great endorsement of Jeremic actually! Govt's that stall EU integration, attacked Serbia, and have policies aggressive to the country are highlighting a 'guy' they CAN'T work with! BRAVO VUK!! Srpski Heroj!!

"In summary, Jeremic has put on quite a theater show for the nationalist wing of Serbia over the past few years." (Ment)

-- I can't say I envy his job. He's got to balance that fine line between not appearing soft but at the same time appearing able to compromise. Walking out on meetings and snubbing summits has yielded a mixed bag for Belgrade. On one level they appear stubborn and intractable, but at the same time they're sending a message that basically implies a lasting solution to Kosovo, in whatever capacity it ends up being, cannot be realized without dealing with Belgrade. Bottom line, they're going to get something out of the deal.

And can you actually picture anyone else in his position that wouldn't walk out? Remember Slobodan Samardzic? Granted he was a lot more open about only preserving the north, but he's from the SANU generation. Let's see when and if Vuk's actions pay off.

"And Nikolic is already a frequent guest in Brussels:)"
(genc)

-- Now that would just be funny if a final settlement over Kosovo is reached under Toma's watch. The reaction from Seselj itself would be worth it :)

Another way we can put it is this: if the EU is even communication with Nikolic over Kosovo, one must wonder what Belgrade stands to gain if it takes "status" off the table. It can't just be EU membership...

"The U.S. and EU are demanding that Serbia does not insist on a UN resolution, or at least not on a text that would insist on status talks. If Serbia still decides to submit its resolution, the U.S. or Albania would submit their resolution, but do not say what it would contain," the newspaper quoted its source"

It doesn't matter if this article is true or not,as far as I'm concerned it's irrelevant but one thing is for sure that K+Albania never had better friends on their side than today.

And Hillary Clinton was in Georgia demanding that Russia wrest over control of liberated territories..

That's how serious i'm starting to take everything..

Jeremic is doing a fine job.
If only all the other politicians did it with the same vigour...

As an Albanian from Kosova I want to be reprezented by Albania at the UN and not Kosova ( Albanian region ).

"What has Albania got to do with Kosovo?" lol wow Peggy you must have been living in a cave if you don't see the connection Albania and the Kosovo ALBANIANS have in common.

So it ok for Serbia to meddle in Bosnia and other Blakan nations because Serbs live there, but albania can't do the same for it's people living in Kosovo. Very immature of you.

What has Albania got to do with Kosovo?


(Peggy, 26 July 2010 23:02) "

Everything, they are one and same.
(Kosova-USA-
-Please do NOT insult the land Kosovo.

"U.S. wants Serbian FM sacked"

Only if the sniper dodger is willing to perform the actual surgery.

So it ok for Serbia to meddle in Bosnia and other Blakan nations because Serbs live there, but albania can't do the same for it's people living in Kosovo. Very immature of you.
(AJ, 27 July 2010 03:18)
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Serbia isn't meddling. Dodik is quite capable of looking after his own affairs. Now Belgrade "meddling" in K-Serb affairs is another thing because Kosovo is part of Serbia and those Serbs have the right to be represented by their government.

Now where exactly is Serbia "meddling"?

Leave Vuk Jeremic's destiny with the Serbian People. I am sick of being told what to do and how to vote. Do not need remote democracy

What has Albania got to do with Kosovo?


(Peggy, 26 July 2010 23:02) "

Everything, they are one and same.

My question to you will be: ' What does serbs and Albanians have in comon?", Absoluately NOTHING.
(Kosova-USA, 27 July 2010 12:35)
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Is it the same as if RS asked Serbia to represent it or is it the same as K-Serbs having Serbia represent them?