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Sunday, 18.07.2010.

10:38

President: Serbia will never recognize Kosovo

President Boris Tadić reminded that no one in Serbia will ever recognize Kosovo’s independence.

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Hekuran

pre 13 godina

Do you have permission from NATO to say that?
(Peggy, 20 July 2010 04:46)

We don't need it!
The reference is on 28th November 2009.

Zeka

pre 13 godina

Look, if you expect the ICJ to come out with a clear yes or no, you will be disappointed. That is why everyone is positioning themselves to project the result in their favour, with a wholly unsatisactory result.

Mark

pre 13 godina

So to answer your question, yes it may come to the use of force, but that is up to the albanians and how they behave.
(Dragan, 19 July 2010 14:53)

We say bring it on.

petar

pre 13 godina

Yes both parties should again sit round the negotiation table. Its not realistic to expect other countries to finance Kosovo until eternity(yes thats a long time)and give it a place around all int. tables as if it is a country where it is in fact just a humanitarian protectorate that cannot harbour the rule of law nor develop a normal economic life this way. Eulex can refuse to deliver terrorists to the USA can allow drugstrade & moneylaundering but for how long? Irrespective of the ICJ verdict, Serbs and Kosovars have to face the future together. Sugardaddy is sick of you both, and you better have a solution before he leaves. Voivodina solution might become very attractive after all, together with Hungarians & Croatians Kosovars can become Serbian Ministers en passant ruling Serbia. This multiculti entity might enter Europe faster than Serbia alone.

Scott

pre 13 godina

It was the Tzar Martyr King Lazar and his Serbian Army who fought the Muslim Army and so decimated the army, they had no choice except to return to their country. Serbia's stance long ago against Muslim domiantion SAVED Western Europe from beign overrun and occupied by Muslim forces. To imply Serbia is "unimportant" is a display of "ignorance" and "ignorace is our worst enemy!" Read the history of the Serbian people and also read about General Draza and his partisans who rescued downed allied pilots in World War II and it should be noted that General Draza and his partisans were the first to organize resistance to Hitler's invading army!

Dragan

pre 13 godina

Metrod,
Many of those 2 million you speak of came over the border from albania illegaly. Secondly, all diplomatic avenues should be exhausted, and the last stage of diplomacy if all else fails is the use of force (your beloved Yanks will tell you that all the time). That is why countries have armies. The only thing the albanians seem to understand is force, and we Serbs will tolerate no more ethnic cleansing of our people from Kosovo, and no more pogroms like in March 2004. So to answer your question, yes it may come to the use of force, but that is up to the albanians and how they behave.

KU

pre 13 godina

And we are back to the usual. Why is it so hard for the Serbian government to come out with a real substantial offer on negotiations, instead of just talking about negotiations? Why are there so many contradicting news coming out of Serbia? Should we believe Blic and B92 when they talk about swapping territories + recognition or Tadic when he says "never"? I would tend to believe Tadic, he is the official voice, but the official voice talks abstract, how can you ask for negotiations about the word "never"? It has a crystal clear meaning the word "never". If you mean to bend that meaning later, you are going to lose credibility with everybody, supporters and opponents. Your opponents will ask for very high guarantees on your word, because it will be perceived as risky, guarantees you might not be able to provide. Your other opponents, the internal ones will jump at your throat if you back down.
I give up on trying to figure out some common sense here, the only thing now is to wait and see. Maybe my mistake is in assuming the Serbian government wants to solve this in a way that is acceptable to everybody..As our friend Jovan says, let's see what the future (immediate future I would add) brings..

Metrod

pre 13 godina

"Kosovo is Serbia, forever, and you can forget about ever having independence.
(Dragan, 18 July 2010 18:49)"

Dragan, there are 2 million people in Kosovo who strongly disagree with you!

How do you suppose you will convince them?

Diplomacy or force?

Peggy

pre 13 godina

"Never" is a very long time.
(Ian, UK, 18 July 2010 14:08)
====================

Yes it is. Your brothers in Kosovo really need to think hard now as the Yanks are not going to ride in giving them what they want. If they could, they would've already done that. Enough time has happsed and the Yanks haven't come through.
Then again, in recent history the yanks haven't achieved anything they set out to do (for others only).
They have achieved a lot for themselves as wars serve THEIR purpose not yours.
You don't want Kosovo to become another Afthanistan. Look how well they are doing there.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

There will be negotiations. Serbia will say they are status related while ethnic Albanians will say they are technical. In the end Serbians will control their areas while ethnic Albanians control their own under EU supervision. It's more than autonomy, less than independence. It really is self-fulfilling.

It's time to look forward towards a peaceful future.

Dragan

pre 13 godina

Even this unpatriotic President, this guy who was installed by the US (they engineered a deal with the Socialists), this guy who visited Srebrenica but refused to visit Bratunac...this sell out, even he says he will never recognize Kosovo. That should tell all you albanians something.
Kosovo is Serbia, forever, and you can forget about ever having independence.

Mikael C

pre 13 godina

How could Tadic recognize this corrupt, crime infested territory of terror? Kosovo is Europes Somalia. The only civilized part left in Kosovo is the North ihabited by Serbs.

Nik

pre 13 godina

Tadic's comments about compromise whilst saying they will never recognise Kosovo in addition to wanting to join the EU are insulting to one's intelligence.
Backed by US support the Albanians will never compromise.They don't have to.Nor why should they to accomodate Tadic's desperate position.The fact is that the powers that be in The EU do not wish to see any discussions about compromises.Kosovo is a done thing.Indeed there is growing evidence the US wishes to bring to an end the northern Serb enclave by the beginnings of a more aggressive Pristina policy of pressure to bring this to a quick conclusion.
Tadic's nonsense about compromise are to do a land swop keeping the area north of Mitrovica possibly keeping it and letting the rest go under some supervision of the cultural sites and/or swopping it for Presevo currently Serbian.
This makes a mockery of not recognising Kosovo.Not only is he prepared to claim only a small percentage but is prepared to surrender further territory.
There is increasing indication that he is either implicitly or explictly being warned that further discussions will restrict even further his receeding chances of joining the EU.
These comments are for domestic audiences and the whole essence of Yes to Kosovo Yes to EU are being shown to be a strategy based on deception of never recognising Albanian control evidence suggests on the contrary he will do so but on squaring this diametrically opposed circle.
The truth is that he has failing on both accounts.
Moreover, his disasterous stewardship have seen the development of the Sanzak front where the Muslim community is increasingly militant and seeking autonomy intially and the Vojvodina problem with a militant Hungarian minority raising its demands.
Tadic's policies are leading Serbia to collapse.
His good neighbourly relations seem to imply to seek friendship with all when he is getting nothing in return. The disasterous acknowledgment of responsibility for Srebrenica has equated the RS with genocide and weakened it whilst he has placed upon the whole Serb people the stigma of somehow being a genocidal race at a time when no real independent enquiry has ever evaluated Srebrenica. This seeking friendship has led to no apologies either from the Croats for 1995 nor the killings of Krajina Serbs or the deaths of Serbs in Bosnia from 1992-1995 particularly via Nasir Oric and Sarajevo.
The Serbs are being led to disaster by this government and ether Tadic is aware of this and hopes something will turn up or he is out of his depth or seeking craveness with those in the EU and USA who certainly are hardly historically or in any real sense Serbia's friends.
Time is running out for him and his disasterous government.
Forget the hype and silly talk. Kosovo is lost. There will be no territorial compromises and Serbia is being to collapse under this man's control.
Be honest! Why persist in this delusion or is it that the trappings or power are too sweet?

lids

pre 13 godina

Way to go Mr.President..
after all albanians have shown the world in 2004,that they have talibani mentality that has no place in EU or modern society,and are uneble to govern itself or protect minorities and cultural sites.

jako777

pre 13 godina

If Serbia lifts her blocking of Kosovo entering UN, all this is just another MANIPULATION of public opinion by president Tadic.
Giving open door for international recognition on one hand and pretending to be against that on the other is so PATHETIC.
I would not be surprised that my comment is censored, after all I'm not Albanian with green lite to write any kind of anti Serb comment here on BE92.

highduke

pre 13 godina

@ ALBANIANS - B92 posted an article about a week ago quoting K-Albanian leaders as rejecting any state that hasn't recognized KiM as a mediator in any future talks but they didn't reject negotiations outright. Albanians may not want re-integration but Albanians will have no allies to resist the inevitable with NATO leaving, a weak EU, UK & US and an ascendant RUS/BRIC. K-Albanians lived with Serb/Turk administration for 1000 years, they'll get used to it again when NATO goes & the S Stream flows

Tymi

pre 13 godina

Tadic should be prepared for new elections immedetially after the ICJ verdict with other arguments. Nobody will will elect you again because of your patriotism. Clean your house, give the Serbs in Serbia better life. Fight corruption. Clean the administration from Milosevic partisans including yourself and play a serious European diplomacy. China and Russia are important, but Serbia belongs to Europe. Give yourself a chance to be the real Serbia democrat to be remembered in the future. Leave the nationalistic card to other. They can do it better. I am sure Albanians will forgive you, but please refrain from unrealistic threats against them.

Kim

pre 13 godina

Hi There

We know that Serbia will not recognize Kosova just as Kosova will not recognize that it will be put again under Beograds control. That time lays in the past.

For Serbia, take your place in the Balkans and try to take a lead in this area.

Let's work together for a better future for all.

Tung
Kim

Feka

pre 13 godina

blah blah, just keep repeating it, maybe one day you will believe it its true. After all now all you can do is say we will not recog. ks, the last straw left.

cheers,

SFUJ4

pre 13 godina

Blah blah blah...he told the Germans we'll recognize Kosovo if you tell us when we enter EU (i.e. speed us up.) The Germans didn't care because it's a done deal/. Everyone knows that Serbia wants the North so the "we'll never recognize" is a blatant misrepresentation.

mijari

pre 13 godina

who cares if serbia recognizes or not? serbia is an unimportant country and i guarante you that you will never find a albanian that will talk with you about the status because it is closed.
but tadic can talk with himself about the status

mijari

pre 13 godina

who cares if serbia recognizes or not? serbia is an unimportant country and i guarante you that you will never find a albanian that will talk with you about the status because it is closed.
but tadic can talk with himself about the status

Feka

pre 13 godina

blah blah, just keep repeating it, maybe one day you will believe it its true. After all now all you can do is say we will not recog. ks, the last straw left.

cheers,

SFUJ4

pre 13 godina

Blah blah blah...he told the Germans we'll recognize Kosovo if you tell us when we enter EU (i.e. speed us up.) The Germans didn't care because it's a done deal/. Everyone knows that Serbia wants the North so the "we'll never recognize" is a blatant misrepresentation.

Kim

pre 13 godina

Hi There

We know that Serbia will not recognize Kosova just as Kosova will not recognize that it will be put again under Beograds control. That time lays in the past.

For Serbia, take your place in the Balkans and try to take a lead in this area.

Let's work together for a better future for all.

Tung
Kim

Tymi

pre 13 godina

Tadic should be prepared for new elections immedetially after the ICJ verdict with other arguments. Nobody will will elect you again because of your patriotism. Clean your house, give the Serbs in Serbia better life. Fight corruption. Clean the administration from Milosevic partisans including yourself and play a serious European diplomacy. China and Russia are important, but Serbia belongs to Europe. Give yourself a chance to be the real Serbia democrat to be remembered in the future. Leave the nationalistic card to other. They can do it better. I am sure Albanians will forgive you, but please refrain from unrealistic threats against them.

Nik

pre 13 godina

Tadic's comments about compromise whilst saying they will never recognise Kosovo in addition to wanting to join the EU are insulting to one's intelligence.
Backed by US support the Albanians will never compromise.They don't have to.Nor why should they to accomodate Tadic's desperate position.The fact is that the powers that be in The EU do not wish to see any discussions about compromises.Kosovo is a done thing.Indeed there is growing evidence the US wishes to bring to an end the northern Serb enclave by the beginnings of a more aggressive Pristina policy of pressure to bring this to a quick conclusion.
Tadic's nonsense about compromise are to do a land swop keeping the area north of Mitrovica possibly keeping it and letting the rest go under some supervision of the cultural sites and/or swopping it for Presevo currently Serbian.
This makes a mockery of not recognising Kosovo.Not only is he prepared to claim only a small percentage but is prepared to surrender further territory.
There is increasing indication that he is either implicitly or explictly being warned that further discussions will restrict even further his receeding chances of joining the EU.
These comments are for domestic audiences and the whole essence of Yes to Kosovo Yes to EU are being shown to be a strategy based on deception of never recognising Albanian control evidence suggests on the contrary he will do so but on squaring this diametrically opposed circle.
The truth is that he has failing on both accounts.
Moreover, his disasterous stewardship have seen the development of the Sanzak front where the Muslim community is increasingly militant and seeking autonomy intially and the Vojvodina problem with a militant Hungarian minority raising its demands.
Tadic's policies are leading Serbia to collapse.
His good neighbourly relations seem to imply to seek friendship with all when he is getting nothing in return. The disasterous acknowledgment of responsibility for Srebrenica has equated the RS with genocide and weakened it whilst he has placed upon the whole Serb people the stigma of somehow being a genocidal race at a time when no real independent enquiry has ever evaluated Srebrenica. This seeking friendship has led to no apologies either from the Croats for 1995 nor the killings of Krajina Serbs or the deaths of Serbs in Bosnia from 1992-1995 particularly via Nasir Oric and Sarajevo.
The Serbs are being led to disaster by this government and ether Tadic is aware of this and hopes something will turn up or he is out of his depth or seeking craveness with those in the EU and USA who certainly are hardly historically or in any real sense Serbia's friends.
Time is running out for him and his disasterous government.
Forget the hype and silly talk. Kosovo is lost. There will be no territorial compromises and Serbia is being to collapse under this man's control.
Be honest! Why persist in this delusion or is it that the trappings or power are too sweet?

jako777

pre 13 godina

If Serbia lifts her blocking of Kosovo entering UN, all this is just another MANIPULATION of public opinion by president Tadic.
Giving open door for international recognition on one hand and pretending to be against that on the other is so PATHETIC.
I would not be surprised that my comment is censored, after all I'm not Albanian with green lite to write any kind of anti Serb comment here on BE92.

Dragan

pre 13 godina

Even this unpatriotic President, this guy who was installed by the US (they engineered a deal with the Socialists), this guy who visited Srebrenica but refused to visit Bratunac...this sell out, even he says he will never recognize Kosovo. That should tell all you albanians something.
Kosovo is Serbia, forever, and you can forget about ever having independence.

Mikael C

pre 13 godina

How could Tadic recognize this corrupt, crime infested territory of terror? Kosovo is Europes Somalia. The only civilized part left in Kosovo is the North ihabited by Serbs.

lids

pre 13 godina

Way to go Mr.President..
after all albanians have shown the world in 2004,that they have talibani mentality that has no place in EU or modern society,and are uneble to govern itself or protect minorities and cultural sites.

highduke

pre 13 godina

@ ALBANIANS - B92 posted an article about a week ago quoting K-Albanian leaders as rejecting any state that hasn't recognized KiM as a mediator in any future talks but they didn't reject negotiations outright. Albanians may not want re-integration but Albanians will have no allies to resist the inevitable with NATO leaving, a weak EU, UK & US and an ascendant RUS/BRIC. K-Albanians lived with Serb/Turk administration for 1000 years, they'll get used to it again when NATO goes & the S Stream flows

Dragan

pre 13 godina

Metrod,
Many of those 2 million you speak of came over the border from albania illegaly. Secondly, all diplomatic avenues should be exhausted, and the last stage of diplomacy if all else fails is the use of force (your beloved Yanks will tell you that all the time). That is why countries have armies. The only thing the albanians seem to understand is force, and we Serbs will tolerate no more ethnic cleansing of our people from Kosovo, and no more pogroms like in March 2004. So to answer your question, yes it may come to the use of force, but that is up to the albanians and how they behave.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

There will be negotiations. Serbia will say they are status related while ethnic Albanians will say they are technical. In the end Serbians will control their areas while ethnic Albanians control their own under EU supervision. It's more than autonomy, less than independence. It really is self-fulfilling.

It's time to look forward towards a peaceful future.

Metrod

pre 13 godina

"Kosovo is Serbia, forever, and you can forget about ever having independence.
(Dragan, 18 July 2010 18:49)"

Dragan, there are 2 million people in Kosovo who strongly disagree with you!

How do you suppose you will convince them?

Diplomacy or force?

Peggy

pre 13 godina

"Never" is a very long time.
(Ian, UK, 18 July 2010 14:08)
====================

Yes it is. Your brothers in Kosovo really need to think hard now as the Yanks are not going to ride in giving them what they want. If they could, they would've already done that. Enough time has happsed and the Yanks haven't come through.
Then again, in recent history the yanks haven't achieved anything they set out to do (for others only).
They have achieved a lot for themselves as wars serve THEIR purpose not yours.
You don't want Kosovo to become another Afthanistan. Look how well they are doing there.

Scott

pre 13 godina

It was the Tzar Martyr King Lazar and his Serbian Army who fought the Muslim Army and so decimated the army, they had no choice except to return to their country. Serbia's stance long ago against Muslim domiantion SAVED Western Europe from beign overrun and occupied by Muslim forces. To imply Serbia is "unimportant" is a display of "ignorance" and "ignorace is our worst enemy!" Read the history of the Serbian people and also read about General Draza and his partisans who rescued downed allied pilots in World War II and it should be noted that General Draza and his partisans were the first to organize resistance to Hitler's invading army!

Zeka

pre 13 godina

Look, if you expect the ICJ to come out with a clear yes or no, you will be disappointed. That is why everyone is positioning themselves to project the result in their favour, with a wholly unsatisactory result.

KU

pre 13 godina

And we are back to the usual. Why is it so hard for the Serbian government to come out with a real substantial offer on negotiations, instead of just talking about negotiations? Why are there so many contradicting news coming out of Serbia? Should we believe Blic and B92 when they talk about swapping territories + recognition or Tadic when he says "never"? I would tend to believe Tadic, he is the official voice, but the official voice talks abstract, how can you ask for negotiations about the word "never"? It has a crystal clear meaning the word "never". If you mean to bend that meaning later, you are going to lose credibility with everybody, supporters and opponents. Your opponents will ask for very high guarantees on your word, because it will be perceived as risky, guarantees you might not be able to provide. Your other opponents, the internal ones will jump at your throat if you back down.
I give up on trying to figure out some common sense here, the only thing now is to wait and see. Maybe my mistake is in assuming the Serbian government wants to solve this in a way that is acceptable to everybody..As our friend Jovan says, let's see what the future (immediate future I would add) brings..

Hekuran

pre 13 godina

Do you have permission from NATO to say that?
(Peggy, 20 July 2010 04:46)

We don't need it!
The reference is on 28th November 2009.

Mark

pre 13 godina

So to answer your question, yes it may come to the use of force, but that is up to the albanians and how they behave.
(Dragan, 19 July 2010 14:53)

We say bring it on.

petar

pre 13 godina

Yes both parties should again sit round the negotiation table. Its not realistic to expect other countries to finance Kosovo until eternity(yes thats a long time)and give it a place around all int. tables as if it is a country where it is in fact just a humanitarian protectorate that cannot harbour the rule of law nor develop a normal economic life this way. Eulex can refuse to deliver terrorists to the USA can allow drugstrade & moneylaundering but for how long? Irrespective of the ICJ verdict, Serbs and Kosovars have to face the future together. Sugardaddy is sick of you both, and you better have a solution before he leaves. Voivodina solution might become very attractive after all, together with Hungarians & Croatians Kosovars can become Serbian Ministers en passant ruling Serbia. This multiculti entity might enter Europe faster than Serbia alone.

lids

pre 13 godina

Way to go Mr.President..
after all albanians have shown the world in 2004,that they have talibani mentality that has no place in EU or modern society,and are uneble to govern itself or protect minorities and cultural sites.

highduke

pre 13 godina

@ ALBANIANS - B92 posted an article about a week ago quoting K-Albanian leaders as rejecting any state that hasn't recognized KiM as a mediator in any future talks but they didn't reject negotiations outright. Albanians may not want re-integration but Albanians will have no allies to resist the inevitable with NATO leaving, a weak EU, UK & US and an ascendant RUS/BRIC. K-Albanians lived with Serb/Turk administration for 1000 years, they'll get used to it again when NATO goes & the S Stream flows

Mikael C

pre 13 godina

How could Tadic recognize this corrupt, crime infested territory of terror? Kosovo is Europes Somalia. The only civilized part left in Kosovo is the North ihabited by Serbs.

mijari

pre 13 godina

who cares if serbia recognizes or not? serbia is an unimportant country and i guarante you that you will never find a albanian that will talk with you about the status because it is closed.
but tadic can talk with himself about the status

Kim

pre 13 godina

Hi There

We know that Serbia will not recognize Kosova just as Kosova will not recognize that it will be put again under Beograds control. That time lays in the past.

For Serbia, take your place in the Balkans and try to take a lead in this area.

Let's work together for a better future for all.

Tung
Kim

Nik

pre 13 godina

Tadic's comments about compromise whilst saying they will never recognise Kosovo in addition to wanting to join the EU are insulting to one's intelligence.
Backed by US support the Albanians will never compromise.They don't have to.Nor why should they to accomodate Tadic's desperate position.The fact is that the powers that be in The EU do not wish to see any discussions about compromises.Kosovo is a done thing.Indeed there is growing evidence the US wishes to bring to an end the northern Serb enclave by the beginnings of a more aggressive Pristina policy of pressure to bring this to a quick conclusion.
Tadic's nonsense about compromise are to do a land swop keeping the area north of Mitrovica possibly keeping it and letting the rest go under some supervision of the cultural sites and/or swopping it for Presevo currently Serbian.
This makes a mockery of not recognising Kosovo.Not only is he prepared to claim only a small percentage but is prepared to surrender further territory.
There is increasing indication that he is either implicitly or explictly being warned that further discussions will restrict even further his receeding chances of joining the EU.
These comments are for domestic audiences and the whole essence of Yes to Kosovo Yes to EU are being shown to be a strategy based on deception of never recognising Albanian control evidence suggests on the contrary he will do so but on squaring this diametrically opposed circle.
The truth is that he has failing on both accounts.
Moreover, his disasterous stewardship have seen the development of the Sanzak front where the Muslim community is increasingly militant and seeking autonomy intially and the Vojvodina problem with a militant Hungarian minority raising its demands.
Tadic's policies are leading Serbia to collapse.
His good neighbourly relations seem to imply to seek friendship with all when he is getting nothing in return. The disasterous acknowledgment of responsibility for Srebrenica has equated the RS with genocide and weakened it whilst he has placed upon the whole Serb people the stigma of somehow being a genocidal race at a time when no real independent enquiry has ever evaluated Srebrenica. This seeking friendship has led to no apologies either from the Croats for 1995 nor the killings of Krajina Serbs or the deaths of Serbs in Bosnia from 1992-1995 particularly via Nasir Oric and Sarajevo.
The Serbs are being led to disaster by this government and ether Tadic is aware of this and hopes something will turn up or he is out of his depth or seeking craveness with those in the EU and USA who certainly are hardly historically or in any real sense Serbia's friends.
Time is running out for him and his disasterous government.
Forget the hype and silly talk. Kosovo is lost. There will be no territorial compromises and Serbia is being to collapse under this man's control.
Be honest! Why persist in this delusion or is it that the trappings or power are too sweet?

SFUJ4

pre 13 godina

Blah blah blah...he told the Germans we'll recognize Kosovo if you tell us when we enter EU (i.e. speed us up.) The Germans didn't care because it's a done deal/. Everyone knows that Serbia wants the North so the "we'll never recognize" is a blatant misrepresentation.

Dragan

pre 13 godina

Even this unpatriotic President, this guy who was installed by the US (they engineered a deal with the Socialists), this guy who visited Srebrenica but refused to visit Bratunac...this sell out, even he says he will never recognize Kosovo. That should tell all you albanians something.
Kosovo is Serbia, forever, and you can forget about ever having independence.

Feka

pre 13 godina

blah blah, just keep repeating it, maybe one day you will believe it its true. After all now all you can do is say we will not recog. ks, the last straw left.

cheers,

Tymi

pre 13 godina

Tadic should be prepared for new elections immedetially after the ICJ verdict with other arguments. Nobody will will elect you again because of your patriotism. Clean your house, give the Serbs in Serbia better life. Fight corruption. Clean the administration from Milosevic partisans including yourself and play a serious European diplomacy. China and Russia are important, but Serbia belongs to Europe. Give yourself a chance to be the real Serbia democrat to be remembered in the future. Leave the nationalistic card to other. They can do it better. I am sure Albanians will forgive you, but please refrain from unrealistic threats against them.

jako777

pre 13 godina

If Serbia lifts her blocking of Kosovo entering UN, all this is just another MANIPULATION of public opinion by president Tadic.
Giving open door for international recognition on one hand and pretending to be against that on the other is so PATHETIC.
I would not be surprised that my comment is censored, after all I'm not Albanian with green lite to write any kind of anti Serb comment here on BE92.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

There will be negotiations. Serbia will say they are status related while ethnic Albanians will say they are technical. In the end Serbians will control their areas while ethnic Albanians control their own under EU supervision. It's more than autonomy, less than independence. It really is self-fulfilling.

It's time to look forward towards a peaceful future.

Metrod

pre 13 godina

"Kosovo is Serbia, forever, and you can forget about ever having independence.
(Dragan, 18 July 2010 18:49)"

Dragan, there are 2 million people in Kosovo who strongly disagree with you!

How do you suppose you will convince them?

Diplomacy or force?

Dragan

pre 13 godina

Metrod,
Many of those 2 million you speak of came over the border from albania illegaly. Secondly, all diplomatic avenues should be exhausted, and the last stage of diplomacy if all else fails is the use of force (your beloved Yanks will tell you that all the time). That is why countries have armies. The only thing the albanians seem to understand is force, and we Serbs will tolerate no more ethnic cleansing of our people from Kosovo, and no more pogroms like in March 2004. So to answer your question, yes it may come to the use of force, but that is up to the albanians and how they behave.

Mark

pre 13 godina

So to answer your question, yes it may come to the use of force, but that is up to the albanians and how they behave.
(Dragan, 19 July 2010 14:53)

We say bring it on.

Scott

pre 13 godina

It was the Tzar Martyr King Lazar and his Serbian Army who fought the Muslim Army and so decimated the army, they had no choice except to return to their country. Serbia's stance long ago against Muslim domiantion SAVED Western Europe from beign overrun and occupied by Muslim forces. To imply Serbia is "unimportant" is a display of "ignorance" and "ignorace is our worst enemy!" Read the history of the Serbian people and also read about General Draza and his partisans who rescued downed allied pilots in World War II and it should be noted that General Draza and his partisans were the first to organize resistance to Hitler's invading army!

Peggy

pre 13 godina

"Never" is a very long time.
(Ian, UK, 18 July 2010 14:08)
====================

Yes it is. Your brothers in Kosovo really need to think hard now as the Yanks are not going to ride in giving them what they want. If they could, they would've already done that. Enough time has happsed and the Yanks haven't come through.
Then again, in recent history the yanks haven't achieved anything they set out to do (for others only).
They have achieved a lot for themselves as wars serve THEIR purpose not yours.
You don't want Kosovo to become another Afthanistan. Look how well they are doing there.

petar

pre 13 godina

Yes both parties should again sit round the negotiation table. Its not realistic to expect other countries to finance Kosovo until eternity(yes thats a long time)and give it a place around all int. tables as if it is a country where it is in fact just a humanitarian protectorate that cannot harbour the rule of law nor develop a normal economic life this way. Eulex can refuse to deliver terrorists to the USA can allow drugstrade & moneylaundering but for how long? Irrespective of the ICJ verdict, Serbs and Kosovars have to face the future together. Sugardaddy is sick of you both, and you better have a solution before he leaves. Voivodina solution might become very attractive after all, together with Hungarians & Croatians Kosovars can become Serbian Ministers en passant ruling Serbia. This multiculti entity might enter Europe faster than Serbia alone.

Hekuran

pre 13 godina

Do you have permission from NATO to say that?
(Peggy, 20 July 2010 04:46)

We don't need it!
The reference is on 28th November 2009.

KU

pre 13 godina

And we are back to the usual. Why is it so hard for the Serbian government to come out with a real substantial offer on negotiations, instead of just talking about negotiations? Why are there so many contradicting news coming out of Serbia? Should we believe Blic and B92 when they talk about swapping territories + recognition or Tadic when he says "never"? I would tend to believe Tadic, he is the official voice, but the official voice talks abstract, how can you ask for negotiations about the word "never"? It has a crystal clear meaning the word "never". If you mean to bend that meaning later, you are going to lose credibility with everybody, supporters and opponents. Your opponents will ask for very high guarantees on your word, because it will be perceived as risky, guarantees you might not be able to provide. Your other opponents, the internal ones will jump at your throat if you back down.
I give up on trying to figure out some common sense here, the only thing now is to wait and see. Maybe my mistake is in assuming the Serbian government wants to solve this in a way that is acceptable to everybody..As our friend Jovan says, let's see what the future (immediate future I would add) brings..

Zeka

pre 13 godina

Look, if you expect the ICJ to come out with a clear yes or no, you will be disappointed. That is why everyone is positioning themselves to project the result in their favour, with a wholly unsatisactory result.