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Thursday, 15.07.2010.

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Romania on Kosovo and Serbia's EU bid

Romanian President Traian Basescu says Belgrade's decision not to recognize Kosovo should not influence Serbia's EU integration.

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lili

pre 13 godina

the albanians are the ONLY people in Europe to have contributed zero to Europe's advancement.
The albanians Are the only people that sacrified himself For europe when they stop the turkish invasion and helped vienna to survive as a christian city...

Peter Sudyka

pre 13 godina

EA

Wow, and what does that make Albania then, in light of your statement? Same thing except they couldn't even get into EU? ;)

KLK

pre 13 godina

"Dimas was born in Himarë[2], Albania, to ethnic Greek parents.[3] "

Wikipedia, written by anyone. He was born PIRRO DHIMA, his family (Dhima not "Dimas") goes back there since 15th century with names like Gjon, Pjeter and other Albanian names until he called himself Dimas for $$$ and a Greek passport. Look at the Turkish defters to see their names through the centuries.

Greeks also think that Luan Shabani (a Muslim) is a Greek named Leonidas Sampanis because he was a good weighlifter. I can call myself Chinese and change my name to Chang but I am not Chinese.

P.S. Romania is in EU by accident, and people don't need membership, they need good JOBS.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Germany, France and their supporters matter
(KLK, 15 July 2010 10:05)
=====================
Only when it comes to getting a handout from them.
Getting them to convince the five to recognise you is not possible, so I guess the "bottom of the barrel" countries still hold all the cards.

delon

pre 13 godina

@ karlsdad1
Ok,let say that the first greek lider was not albanian,but greek.can you tell us please,what would this person be,first president of greece,that cant speak greek but only albanian??

adrian/bucharest

pre 13 godina

It's pretty simple. If ICJ says some sort of NO, then is a forever NO from Romania. If ICJ says YES&NO, almost the same. If ICJ says YES, then Romania will be in an ackward position, but everybody we'll get a chance to witness skills developed in centuries of being a small stone in front of big empires. Result: limbo.

PS For the Albanian panel: Beware, Mircea has got an eye on you!
Personally, I am very afraid for 3 September. He also said a while ago that Romania will beat Serbia in the WC qualifiers and we lost twice.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

P.S. Even Pirro Dhima's (Dymas--after he got paid to change it) declared themselves of German ethnicity now, hoping for a German pension.
(Une, 15 July 2010 15:29

Wikipedia:
Pyrros Dimas (Greek: Πύρρος Δήμας), born in October 13, 1971) is a retired Greek[1] weightlifter, considered as one of the greatest of all times having been three times Olympic champion and three times World Champion.

Dimas was born in Himarë[2], Albania, to ethnic Greek parents.[3]

Does the above answer the Albanian propaganda?

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Apparently not good enough, otherwise you explain to me why - as a German taxpayer - I have to pay for your cheating. I haven't even been asked, nor the rest of the 80 Mio who were spending your great living standard while you let the Albanians work a peon's job and present our arms in Saloniki while shouting fascistic songs. Believe me, you are currently very badly regarded in Germany. The Albanians are poor, many are in involved in crimes, but the scale of cheating and lying the Greeks committed, doesn't not exceed anything what has been seen before but also harmed us more than 1000 years of spending subsidies to Kosovo, while noting that the subsidies were given freely and consciously, unlike the theives from Athens.
(JohnC., 15 July 2010 14:09)

I personally wouldn't give a toss of what the Germans think about the Greeks.They should be concerned about their own corruption scandals (Ziemens,Daimler,Bosch) and the list goes on.

Whichever country immigrants go they always do low paid jobs which the indigenous population are unwilling to do.Why should Albanians in Greece be any different?

As to crime in Greece involving Albanians the statistics are strartling.Nearly 40% of inmates in Greek prisons are Albanians.This says a lot about the benefits Albanian immigration to Greece brought about.

Bottom line is that Albanians have the option of going back to Albania.I don't think any Greek is going to persuade them otherwise.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Since Greece gave democracy to the world and Albania gave Greece its first leaders,(from your first president;) we consider them our brethren (just stop with imitating our songs and dances, you look funny). No matter how much your religious Byz leftovers try to change history or facts it was the Albanians that fed and protected you till you went head over heals into EU money.
And since its EU money and Albanian sweat, all is balanced.
(ali g8r, 15 July 2010 13:41

The only thing common between the Greeks and Albanians are the borders.Nothing else.

How could the Ottoman descendant Albanians-the Illyrian connection crap is for illiterate historians-liberate the Greeks from the Ottomans?

The EU money have nothing to do with Albanians.Think about the Greek money ($ 4billion yearly) which goes to Albania to feed your families.

Mircea

pre 13 godina

KLK,

Greece, Romania and Bulgaria are EU Member States.

Albania is many years behind Greece, Romania and Bulgaria.

Albania will probably join the EU in 2050.

Also, the Romanian national football team will beat Albania on 3 September.

dingdong

pre 13 godina

LOL. I knew the albanians would try to claim other cultures and the achievements of other nations as their own. Just proves my point....the albanians are the ONLY people in Europe to have contributed zero to Europe's advancement.

Une

pre 13 godina

IF Greece is bankrupt i wonder why thousands of Albanians are still trying to enter the country clandenstingly on a weekly basis."

Wrong Fakelaki, even $500 BILLION in debt couldn't make you a European country. Albanians are returning from Greece forever, by the thousands. Tell your panicked politicos (they are handing Greek citizenship now too to them) to go to work in olive groves or faraway islands.

P.S. Even Pirro Dhima's (Dymas--after he got paid to change it) declared themselves of German ethnicity now, hoping for a German pension.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

IF Greece is bankrupt i wonder why thousands of Albanians are still trying to enter the country clandenstingly on a weekly basis.Greece must still be a
better place than Albania!
(Leonidas, 15 July 2010 12:31)

Apparently not good enough, otherwise you explain to me why - as a German taxpayer - I have to pay for your cheating. I haven't even been asked, nor the rest of the 80 Mio who were spending your great living standard while you let the Albanians work a peon's job and present our arms in Saloniki while shouting fascistic songs. Believe me, you are currently very badly regarded in Germany. The Albanians are poor, many are in involved in crimes, but the scale of cheating and lying the Greeks committed, doesn't not exceed anything what has been seen before but also harmed us more than 1000 years of spending subsidies to Kosovo, while noting that the subsidies were given freely and consciously, unlike the theives from Athens.

dingdong

pre 13 godina

PRN

I should also add that no nation in Europe has given more to European culture and identity than Greece. Which begs the questions, what has albania given Europe? I'm truely baffled....and don't start spurting out that Plato, Socrates, Archimedes, Homer etc were albanian. Think before you speak. I know you'll find it difficult but try :) Surprise us all.

karlsdad

pre 13 godina

Ali, what nuthouse did you get your history lesson at? Greece was built on Albanian sweat, that's a good one. Albanians don't even work in their own country, why in the world would they work in someone else's? As for Albania supply Greece with its first leaders, I truly have no comment on that. My parents always told not to argue with lunatics, as people would not know the difference between me and them.

ali g8r

pre 13 godina

"IF Greece is bankrupt i wonder why thousands of Albanians are still trying to enter the country clandenstingly on a weekly basis.Greece must still be a
better place than Albania!
(Leonidas"

Since Greece gave democracy to the world and Albania gave Greece its first leaders,(from your first president;) we consider them our brethren (just stop with imitating our songs and dances, you look funny). No matter how much your religious Byz leftovers try to change history or facts it was the Albanians that fed and protected you till you went head over heals into EU money.
And since its EU money and Albanian sweat, all is balanced.

Sam, UK

pre 13 godina

Greece, Romania and Bulgaria are at the bottom of the barrel. No one asks them, they are lucky if they keep any sovereignty as they go bankrupt. Notice how they are on the Top Ten countries risking bankruptcy.

Germany, France and their supporters matter
(KLK, 15 July 2010 10:05)

Bulgaria? Good, that's one country that recognises Kosovo that doesn't matter then.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Greece, Romania and Bulgaria are at the bottom of the barrel. No one asks them, they are lucky if they keep any sovereignty as they go bankrupt. Notice how they are on the Top Ten countries risking bankruptcy.

Germany, France and their supporters matter
(KLK, 15 July 2010 10:05)

IF Greece is bankrupt i wonder why thousands of Albanians are still trying to enter the country clandenstingly on a weekly basis.Greece must still be a
better place than Albania!

karlsdad

pre 13 godina

As usual, you make no sense, PRN. Not on a Serbian site, anyway. As for Romania, thank you for being a friend of Serbia, and respecting international law. Justice must prevail, if there is to be any order in this world.

Olf

pre 13 godina

B92 is doing its job very well, trying to brainwash Serbian public with 3 line statement of support from Rumania. Why? Are they told to do so from politicians who know something more about the ICJ decision.
Tell this news to any Serbian citizne in the street, I am sure that they laugh at it.
Are there no other news,I mean N E W S.

dingdong

pre 13 godina

KLK

The bottom of the barrel is reserved exclusively for albania. With comments such as yours, you only serve to embarrass yourself. At least the Greeks are not associated with sex slavery, drug trafficking and organ trafficking!

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

We already know Romania's stance regardinng, so stop boring us to death and gives us some new information. Southstream? Yes or no? Maybe? Maybe not? Only in connection with NABUCCO? Or only in connection with Russian withdrawal from Moldova? Or combination with all above mentioned points?

That is what is intersting and not the 547th headline in this year of that kind.

KLK

pre 13 godina

Greece, Romania and Bulgaria are at the bottom of the barrel. No one asks them, they are lucky if they keep any sovereignty as they go bankrupt. Notice how they are on the Top Ten countries risking bankruptcy.

Germany, France and their supporters matter

PRN

pre 13 godina

"Romanian President Traian Basescu says Belgrade's decision not to recognize Kosovo should not influence Serbia's EU integration."

Well, Obama should not reject my call for a caffee-meeting with him.

I await a response.

winston

pre 13 godina

Romania is a law-abiding country. It is refreshing to see, when the rest of the Western world is corrupt and self-serving. Thank you Romania, for being a good neighbor and friend to Serbia. International law must prevail, if the world is to survive.

quasistate

pre 13 godina

What a ridiculous statement, KLK. Are you saying that only the countries with stronger economies, although most are in debt upo to their asses, hold weight in international law. You wrong, all voices are important, and will prove to be. The world is changing, and the west will have to stop their nation-building projects. They too, will not have the money.

dingdong

pre 13 godina

KLK

The bottom of the barrel is reserved exclusively for albania. With comments such as yours, you only serve to embarrass yourself. At least the Greeks are not associated with sex slavery, drug trafficking and organ trafficking!

dingdong

pre 13 godina

PRN

I should also add that no nation in Europe has given more to European culture and identity than Greece. Which begs the questions, what has albania given Europe? I'm truely baffled....and don't start spurting out that Plato, Socrates, Archimedes, Homer etc were albanian. Think before you speak. I know you'll find it difficult but try :) Surprise us all.

karlsdad

pre 13 godina

Ali, what nuthouse did you get your history lesson at? Greece was built on Albanian sweat, that's a good one. Albanians don't even work in their own country, why in the world would they work in someone else's? As for Albania supply Greece with its first leaders, I truly have no comment on that. My parents always told not to argue with lunatics, as people would not know the difference between me and them.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Greece, Romania and Bulgaria are at the bottom of the barrel. No one asks them, they are lucky if they keep any sovereignty as they go bankrupt. Notice how they are on the Top Ten countries risking bankruptcy.

Germany, France and their supporters matter
(KLK, 15 July 2010 10:05)

IF Greece is bankrupt i wonder why thousands of Albanians are still trying to enter the country clandenstingly on a weekly basis.Greece must still be a
better place than Albania!

winston

pre 13 godina

Romania is a law-abiding country. It is refreshing to see, when the rest of the Western world is corrupt and self-serving. Thank you Romania, for being a good neighbor and friend to Serbia. International law must prevail, if the world is to survive.

quasistate

pre 13 godina

What a ridiculous statement, KLK. Are you saying that only the countries with stronger economies, although most are in debt upo to their asses, hold weight in international law. You wrong, all voices are important, and will prove to be. The world is changing, and the west will have to stop their nation-building projects. They too, will not have the money.

dingdong

pre 13 godina

LOL. I knew the albanians would try to claim other cultures and the achievements of other nations as their own. Just proves my point....the albanians are the ONLY people in Europe to have contributed zero to Europe's advancement.

karlsdad

pre 13 godina

As usual, you make no sense, PRN. Not on a Serbian site, anyway. As for Romania, thank you for being a friend of Serbia, and respecting international law. Justice must prevail, if there is to be any order in this world.

Mircea

pre 13 godina

KLK,

Greece, Romania and Bulgaria are EU Member States.

Albania is many years behind Greece, Romania and Bulgaria.

Albania will probably join the EU in 2050.

Also, the Romanian national football team will beat Albania on 3 September.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Since Greece gave democracy to the world and Albania gave Greece its first leaders,(from your first president;) we consider them our brethren (just stop with imitating our songs and dances, you look funny). No matter how much your religious Byz leftovers try to change history or facts it was the Albanians that fed and protected you till you went head over heals into EU money.
And since its EU money and Albanian sweat, all is balanced.
(ali g8r, 15 July 2010 13:41

The only thing common between the Greeks and Albanians are the borders.Nothing else.

How could the Ottoman descendant Albanians-the Illyrian connection crap is for illiterate historians-liberate the Greeks from the Ottomans?

The EU money have nothing to do with Albanians.Think about the Greek money ($ 4billion yearly) which goes to Albania to feed your families.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

IF Greece is bankrupt i wonder why thousands of Albanians are still trying to enter the country clandenstingly on a weekly basis.Greece must still be a
better place than Albania!
(Leonidas, 15 July 2010 12:31)

Apparently not good enough, otherwise you explain to me why - as a German taxpayer - I have to pay for your cheating. I haven't even been asked, nor the rest of the 80 Mio who were spending your great living standard while you let the Albanians work a peon's job and present our arms in Saloniki while shouting fascistic songs. Believe me, you are currently very badly regarded in Germany. The Albanians are poor, many are in involved in crimes, but the scale of cheating and lying the Greeks committed, doesn't not exceed anything what has been seen before but also harmed us more than 1000 years of spending subsidies to Kosovo, while noting that the subsidies were given freely and consciously, unlike the theives from Athens.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Apparently not good enough, otherwise you explain to me why - as a German taxpayer - I have to pay for your cheating. I haven't even been asked, nor the rest of the 80 Mio who were spending your great living standard while you let the Albanians work a peon's job and present our arms in Saloniki while shouting fascistic songs. Believe me, you are currently very badly regarded in Germany. The Albanians are poor, many are in involved in crimes, but the scale of cheating and lying the Greeks committed, doesn't not exceed anything what has been seen before but also harmed us more than 1000 years of spending subsidies to Kosovo, while noting that the subsidies were given freely and consciously, unlike the theives from Athens.
(JohnC., 15 July 2010 14:09)

I personally wouldn't give a toss of what the Germans think about the Greeks.They should be concerned about their own corruption scandals (Ziemens,Daimler,Bosch) and the list goes on.

Whichever country immigrants go they always do low paid jobs which the indigenous population are unwilling to do.Why should Albanians in Greece be any different?

As to crime in Greece involving Albanians the statistics are strartling.Nearly 40% of inmates in Greek prisons are Albanians.This says a lot about the benefits Albanian immigration to Greece brought about.

Bottom line is that Albanians have the option of going back to Albania.I don't think any Greek is going to persuade them otherwise.

Sam, UK

pre 13 godina

Greece, Romania and Bulgaria are at the bottom of the barrel. No one asks them, they are lucky if they keep any sovereignty as they go bankrupt. Notice how they are on the Top Ten countries risking bankruptcy.

Germany, France and their supporters matter
(KLK, 15 July 2010 10:05)

Bulgaria? Good, that's one country that recognises Kosovo that doesn't matter then.

Une

pre 13 godina

IF Greece is bankrupt i wonder why thousands of Albanians are still trying to enter the country clandenstingly on a weekly basis."

Wrong Fakelaki, even $500 BILLION in debt couldn't make you a European country. Albanians are returning from Greece forever, by the thousands. Tell your panicked politicos (they are handing Greek citizenship now too to them) to go to work in olive groves or faraway islands.

P.S. Even Pirro Dhima's (Dymas--after he got paid to change it) declared themselves of German ethnicity now, hoping for a German pension.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

P.S. Even Pirro Dhima's (Dymas--after he got paid to change it) declared themselves of German ethnicity now, hoping for a German pension.
(Une, 15 July 2010 15:29

Wikipedia:
Pyrros Dimas (Greek: Πύρρος Δήμας), born in October 13, 1971) is a retired Greek[1] weightlifter, considered as one of the greatest of all times having been three times Olympic champion and three times World Champion.

Dimas was born in Himarë[2], Albania, to ethnic Greek parents.[3]

Does the above answer the Albanian propaganda?

KLK

pre 13 godina

Greece, Romania and Bulgaria are at the bottom of the barrel. No one asks them, they are lucky if they keep any sovereignty as they go bankrupt. Notice how they are on the Top Ten countries risking bankruptcy.

Germany, France and their supporters matter

PRN

pre 13 godina

"Romanian President Traian Basescu says Belgrade's decision not to recognize Kosovo should not influence Serbia's EU integration."

Well, Obama should not reject my call for a caffee-meeting with him.

I await a response.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

We already know Romania's stance regardinng, so stop boring us to death and gives us some new information. Southstream? Yes or no? Maybe? Maybe not? Only in connection with NABUCCO? Or only in connection with Russian withdrawal from Moldova? Or combination with all above mentioned points?

That is what is intersting and not the 547th headline in this year of that kind.

adrian/bucharest

pre 13 godina

It's pretty simple. If ICJ says some sort of NO, then is a forever NO from Romania. If ICJ says YES&NO, almost the same. If ICJ says YES, then Romania will be in an ackward position, but everybody we'll get a chance to witness skills developed in centuries of being a small stone in front of big empires. Result: limbo.

PS For the Albanian panel: Beware, Mircea has got an eye on you!
Personally, I am very afraid for 3 September. He also said a while ago that Romania will beat Serbia in the WC qualifiers and we lost twice.

ali g8r

pre 13 godina

"IF Greece is bankrupt i wonder why thousands of Albanians are still trying to enter the country clandenstingly on a weekly basis.Greece must still be a
better place than Albania!
(Leonidas"

Since Greece gave democracy to the world and Albania gave Greece its first leaders,(from your first president;) we consider them our brethren (just stop with imitating our songs and dances, you look funny). No matter how much your religious Byz leftovers try to change history or facts it was the Albanians that fed and protected you till you went head over heals into EU money.
And since its EU money and Albanian sweat, all is balanced.

Olf

pre 13 godina

B92 is doing its job very well, trying to brainwash Serbian public with 3 line statement of support from Rumania. Why? Are they told to do so from politicians who know something more about the ICJ decision.
Tell this news to any Serbian citizne in the street, I am sure that they laugh at it.
Are there no other news,I mean N E W S.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Germany, France and their supporters matter
(KLK, 15 July 2010 10:05)
=====================
Only when it comes to getting a handout from them.
Getting them to convince the five to recognise you is not possible, so I guess the "bottom of the barrel" countries still hold all the cards.

Peter Sudyka

pre 13 godina

EA

Wow, and what does that make Albania then, in light of your statement? Same thing except they couldn't even get into EU? ;)

delon

pre 13 godina

@ karlsdad1
Ok,let say that the first greek lider was not albanian,but greek.can you tell us please,what would this person be,first president of greece,that cant speak greek but only albanian??

KLK

pre 13 godina

"Dimas was born in Himarë[2], Albania, to ethnic Greek parents.[3] "

Wikipedia, written by anyone. He was born PIRRO DHIMA, his family (Dhima not "Dimas") goes back there since 15th century with names like Gjon, Pjeter and other Albanian names until he called himself Dimas for $$$ and a Greek passport. Look at the Turkish defters to see their names through the centuries.

Greeks also think that Luan Shabani (a Muslim) is a Greek named Leonidas Sampanis because he was a good weighlifter. I can call myself Chinese and change my name to Chang but I am not Chinese.

P.S. Romania is in EU by accident, and people don't need membership, they need good JOBS.

lili

pre 13 godina

the albanians are the ONLY people in Europe to have contributed zero to Europe's advancement.
The albanians Are the only people that sacrified himself For europe when they stop the turkish invasion and helped vienna to survive as a christian city...

KLK

pre 13 godina

Greece, Romania and Bulgaria are at the bottom of the barrel. No one asks them, they are lucky if they keep any sovereignty as they go bankrupt. Notice how they are on the Top Ten countries risking bankruptcy.

Germany, France and their supporters matter

PRN

pre 13 godina

"Romanian President Traian Basescu says Belgrade's decision not to recognize Kosovo should not influence Serbia's EU integration."

Well, Obama should not reject my call for a caffee-meeting with him.

I await a response.

ali g8r

pre 13 godina

"IF Greece is bankrupt i wonder why thousands of Albanians are still trying to enter the country clandenstingly on a weekly basis.Greece must still be a
better place than Albania!
(Leonidas"

Since Greece gave democracy to the world and Albania gave Greece its first leaders,(from your first president;) we consider them our brethren (just stop with imitating our songs and dances, you look funny). No matter how much your religious Byz leftovers try to change history or facts it was the Albanians that fed and protected you till you went head over heals into EU money.
And since its EU money and Albanian sweat, all is balanced.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

IF Greece is bankrupt i wonder why thousands of Albanians are still trying to enter the country clandenstingly on a weekly basis.Greece must still be a
better place than Albania!
(Leonidas, 15 July 2010 12:31)

Apparently not good enough, otherwise you explain to me why - as a German taxpayer - I have to pay for your cheating. I haven't even been asked, nor the rest of the 80 Mio who were spending your great living standard while you let the Albanians work a peon's job and present our arms in Saloniki while shouting fascistic songs. Believe me, you are currently very badly regarded in Germany. The Albanians are poor, many are in involved in crimes, but the scale of cheating and lying the Greeks committed, doesn't not exceed anything what has been seen before but also harmed us more than 1000 years of spending subsidies to Kosovo, while noting that the subsidies were given freely and consciously, unlike the theives from Athens.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

We already know Romania's stance regardinng, so stop boring us to death and gives us some new information. Southstream? Yes or no? Maybe? Maybe not? Only in connection with NABUCCO? Or only in connection with Russian withdrawal from Moldova? Or combination with all above mentioned points?

That is what is intersting and not the 547th headline in this year of that kind.

Olf

pre 13 godina

B92 is doing its job very well, trying to brainwash Serbian public with 3 line statement of support from Rumania. Why? Are they told to do so from politicians who know something more about the ICJ decision.
Tell this news to any Serbian citizne in the street, I am sure that they laugh at it.
Are there no other news,I mean N E W S.

Une

pre 13 godina

IF Greece is bankrupt i wonder why thousands of Albanians are still trying to enter the country clandenstingly on a weekly basis."

Wrong Fakelaki, even $500 BILLION in debt couldn't make you a European country. Albanians are returning from Greece forever, by the thousands. Tell your panicked politicos (they are handing Greek citizenship now too to them) to go to work in olive groves or faraway islands.

P.S. Even Pirro Dhima's (Dymas--after he got paid to change it) declared themselves of German ethnicity now, hoping for a German pension.

Mircea

pre 13 godina

KLK,

Greece, Romania and Bulgaria are EU Member States.

Albania is many years behind Greece, Romania and Bulgaria.

Albania will probably join the EU in 2050.

Also, the Romanian national football team will beat Albania on 3 September.

dingdong

pre 13 godina

KLK

The bottom of the barrel is reserved exclusively for albania. With comments such as yours, you only serve to embarrass yourself. At least the Greeks are not associated with sex slavery, drug trafficking and organ trafficking!

dingdong

pre 13 godina

LOL. I knew the albanians would try to claim other cultures and the achievements of other nations as their own. Just proves my point....the albanians are the ONLY people in Europe to have contributed zero to Europe's advancement.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Since Greece gave democracy to the world and Albania gave Greece its first leaders,(from your first president;) we consider them our brethren (just stop with imitating our songs and dances, you look funny). No matter how much your religious Byz leftovers try to change history or facts it was the Albanians that fed and protected you till you went head over heals into EU money.
And since its EU money and Albanian sweat, all is balanced.
(ali g8r, 15 July 2010 13:41

The only thing common between the Greeks and Albanians are the borders.Nothing else.

How could the Ottoman descendant Albanians-the Illyrian connection crap is for illiterate historians-liberate the Greeks from the Ottomans?

The EU money have nothing to do with Albanians.Think about the Greek money ($ 4billion yearly) which goes to Albania to feed your families.

karlsdad

pre 13 godina

Ali, what nuthouse did you get your history lesson at? Greece was built on Albanian sweat, that's a good one. Albanians don't even work in their own country, why in the world would they work in someone else's? As for Albania supply Greece with its first leaders, I truly have no comment on that. My parents always told not to argue with lunatics, as people would not know the difference between me and them.

winston

pre 13 godina

Romania is a law-abiding country. It is refreshing to see, when the rest of the Western world is corrupt and self-serving. Thank you Romania, for being a good neighbor and friend to Serbia. International law must prevail, if the world is to survive.

quasistate

pre 13 godina

What a ridiculous statement, KLK. Are you saying that only the countries with stronger economies, although most are in debt upo to their asses, hold weight in international law. You wrong, all voices are important, and will prove to be. The world is changing, and the west will have to stop their nation-building projects. They too, will not have the money.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Greece, Romania and Bulgaria are at the bottom of the barrel. No one asks them, they are lucky if they keep any sovereignty as they go bankrupt. Notice how they are on the Top Ten countries risking bankruptcy.

Germany, France and their supporters matter
(KLK, 15 July 2010 10:05)

IF Greece is bankrupt i wonder why thousands of Albanians are still trying to enter the country clandenstingly on a weekly basis.Greece must still be a
better place than Albania!

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Apparently not good enough, otherwise you explain to me why - as a German taxpayer - I have to pay for your cheating. I haven't even been asked, nor the rest of the 80 Mio who were spending your great living standard while you let the Albanians work a peon's job and present our arms in Saloniki while shouting fascistic songs. Believe me, you are currently very badly regarded in Germany. The Albanians are poor, many are in involved in crimes, but the scale of cheating and lying the Greeks committed, doesn't not exceed anything what has been seen before but also harmed us more than 1000 years of spending subsidies to Kosovo, while noting that the subsidies were given freely and consciously, unlike the theives from Athens.
(JohnC., 15 July 2010 14:09)

I personally wouldn't give a toss of what the Germans think about the Greeks.They should be concerned about their own corruption scandals (Ziemens,Daimler,Bosch) and the list goes on.

Whichever country immigrants go they always do low paid jobs which the indigenous population are unwilling to do.Why should Albanians in Greece be any different?

As to crime in Greece involving Albanians the statistics are strartling.Nearly 40% of inmates in Greek prisons are Albanians.This says a lot about the benefits Albanian immigration to Greece brought about.

Bottom line is that Albanians have the option of going back to Albania.I don't think any Greek is going to persuade them otherwise.

dingdong

pre 13 godina

PRN

I should also add that no nation in Europe has given more to European culture and identity than Greece. Which begs the questions, what has albania given Europe? I'm truely baffled....and don't start spurting out that Plato, Socrates, Archimedes, Homer etc were albanian. Think before you speak. I know you'll find it difficult but try :) Surprise us all.

Sam, UK

pre 13 godina

Greece, Romania and Bulgaria are at the bottom of the barrel. No one asks them, they are lucky if they keep any sovereignty as they go bankrupt. Notice how they are on the Top Ten countries risking bankruptcy.

Germany, France and their supporters matter
(KLK, 15 July 2010 10:05)

Bulgaria? Good, that's one country that recognises Kosovo that doesn't matter then.

KLK

pre 13 godina

"Dimas was born in Himarë[2], Albania, to ethnic Greek parents.[3] "

Wikipedia, written by anyone. He was born PIRRO DHIMA, his family (Dhima not "Dimas") goes back there since 15th century with names like Gjon, Pjeter and other Albanian names until he called himself Dimas for $$$ and a Greek passport. Look at the Turkish defters to see their names through the centuries.

Greeks also think that Luan Shabani (a Muslim) is a Greek named Leonidas Sampanis because he was a good weighlifter. I can call myself Chinese and change my name to Chang but I am not Chinese.

P.S. Romania is in EU by accident, and people don't need membership, they need good JOBS.

delon

pre 13 godina

@ karlsdad1
Ok,let say that the first greek lider was not albanian,but greek.can you tell us please,what would this person be,first president of greece,that cant speak greek but only albanian??

karlsdad

pre 13 godina

As usual, you make no sense, PRN. Not on a Serbian site, anyway. As for Romania, thank you for being a friend of Serbia, and respecting international law. Justice must prevail, if there is to be any order in this world.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Germany, France and their supporters matter
(KLK, 15 July 2010 10:05)
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Only when it comes to getting a handout from them.
Getting them to convince the five to recognise you is not possible, so I guess the "bottom of the barrel" countries still hold all the cards.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

P.S. Even Pirro Dhima's (Dymas--after he got paid to change it) declared themselves of German ethnicity now, hoping for a German pension.
(Une, 15 July 2010 15:29

Wikipedia:
Pyrros Dimas (Greek: Πύρρος Δήμας), born in October 13, 1971) is a retired Greek[1] weightlifter, considered as one of the greatest of all times having been three times Olympic champion and three times World Champion.

Dimas was born in Himarë[2], Albania, to ethnic Greek parents.[3]

Does the above answer the Albanian propaganda?

Peter Sudyka

pre 13 godina

EA

Wow, and what does that make Albania then, in light of your statement? Same thing except they couldn't even get into EU? ;)

lili

pre 13 godina

the albanians are the ONLY people in Europe to have contributed zero to Europe's advancement.
The albanians Are the only people that sacrified himself For europe when they stop the turkish invasion and helped vienna to survive as a christian city...

adrian/bucharest

pre 13 godina

It's pretty simple. If ICJ says some sort of NO, then is a forever NO from Romania. If ICJ says YES&NO, almost the same. If ICJ says YES, then Romania will be in an ackward position, but everybody we'll get a chance to witness skills developed in centuries of being a small stone in front of big empires. Result: limbo.

PS For the Albanian panel: Beware, Mircea has got an eye on you!
Personally, I am very afraid for 3 September. He also said a while ago that Romania will beat Serbia in the WC qualifiers and we lost twice.