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Saturday, 10.07.2010.

09:41

“K. Albanian minister sent open threat of war”

President Boris Tadić said that Kosovo Albanian Minister Bajram Rexhepi made open threats of war in a <a href="http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=07&dd=09&nav_id=68330" class="text-link" target= "_blank">statement made on Friday.</a>

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Matthew

pre 13 godina

Pete,

Village-Bey is one of the most moderate people to post on this site.

He’s most likely referring to the international’s reluctance to put themselves in harm’s way to help the situation.

I don’t always agree with him, but I always respect him and his comments.

Pete

pre 13 godina

'If only these damn internationals weren't so squeamish about a few hand granates' appears to allude to a hand grenade thrown at a peaceful demonstration, resulting in the death of a respected local doctor. Or am I mistaken Mike. But if I'm not, this individual is hardly whether of respect is he. I'm afraid I'm not interested in team pristina or team belgrade. Just the death of an innocent man.

Colin

pre 13 godina

Roberto,

You would have far more credibility with more people if you weren't so one sided.

A unilateral decision by an ethnic community to remove themselves from a country - because of that countries people does not stack up when they wish to impose themselves over 200,000 people of Serbian ethnicity. If Pristina really wanted a UDI based on their troubles with Serbs, they would have taken the land south of the Ibar, built a great big wall and said goodbye.

Over the last few months we have seen shots fired at returning Serbs, rocks thrown and now people being killed and shot.

Now from my viewpoint, not one of the incidents above has gone punished.

Now your side of the story appears to be that Serbs are inherently bad - that all bad in the region comes from Serb people.

Yet, if Serbs orchestrated attacks on themselves, surely they would have orchestrated revenge attacks if they were as malicious as you purport them to be?

I will give you a famous line I hear everywhere on my travels, and would like you and many others to conisder it.

Serbian people I speak to don't pretend bad things did not happen under Milosevic's reign.

Serbs however rile at suggestions they are the only ones who caused issues, the only ones who committed crimes and the only ones who should be punished.

Your words would carry far more credence as a person who espouses peace if you were to acknowledge that fact.

or perhaps you just want to take in the west's current version of the truth, as it is easy for the western media to promote every war as having a "good guy and a bad guy" - or to be a battle against some sort of "ism" - whether is be communism, terrorism or the like.

Gossamer

pre 13 godina

Well, there is nothing Serbia can do since all of Kosovo, including all the of the North, do not have Serbian army or police officers, and NATO soldiers are on the control.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"village-bey, village-idiot more like." (Pete)

C'mon Pete. Village-bey is one of the people on the opposite side a number of us on Team Belgrade respect. That he actually acknowledges Pristina's folly in attempting to control the north through force is a rarity from its proponents. He certainly doesn't need my support, nor did he ask for it, but if there were more village-beys commenting for Team Pristina, we'd actually have interesting and mature debates more often.

johny

pre 13 godina

Mike said:
"1. Pristina says/provokes with something stupid like this. "

-- I still fail to see the provocation here. A bunch of ethnic Serb policemen will be sent to an ethnic Serb area, inside Kosova.

If they sent ethnic Albanian policemen in Nish then we could be talking about provocation or the other idiotic thing Tadic said; war. Until then Tadic and Co. can b$ all they want, scream all they want and hope for violence all they want. None of that sh.t is going to result in N. Mitrovica being separated. You know why? Because the UK, France, Germany, and the US do not want that. Now you and your politicians can become as hysterical as you want. It ain't gonna happen just cuz they said so.

kufr

pre 13 godina

Even though I am just sitting in exile in a EU country and reading news over the internet it seems obvious this is a provocation from Pristina. Not even a very good provocation. I am sure Belgrade has some chessplaying advisors that won't fall for this bait.

It might even be an albanian threat directed to the ICJ: "Make the right decision or we will start trouble in the north".

Pete.

pre 13 godina

The only criminal gangs in 'Kosova' are the ones masquerading as politicians in pristina. I see your chum tony blair pitched up yesterday to howls of approval from parents who named their kids after him. How sad is that. Those poor devils are now lumbered with the moniker of a man reviled throughout the western world and beyond. Truly a primitive laughing stock.

PPksky

pre 13 godina

Borders are the real issue here and what people are really talking about when they declare war on criminal activity. The Albanians are the real source of criminal activity in Kosovo and the Albanians need police authority to further enable criminal activity in the region by enabling direct contact between Albanian communities in Kosovo and the rest of Serbia.

Of course the border between Kosovo and Albania is unpoliced. Kosovo represents Greater Albania to the Albanians and once they can police the north on the Serbian border, Greater Albania can begin to creep into the rest of Serbia.

The EU and the UN indulge themselves with a sadistic preoccupation over the lying about the Serbs and the theft of their land and property.

If the Albanians send "police" to northern Kosovo, close to the borders marking the rest of Serbia, the EU or the UN are going to have to do something about it or they will have nothing to say if the Serbs do something themselves.

lids

pre 13 godina

This just show how uneducated and ignorant this Redxepi is.
EULEX will train multinationals,but not becaouse of prishtina`s thirst for bloodshed,but to prove that they are there to bring some normalcy in clansmans land.
They all must be inhaling number one import of albania,how else could one take them seriosly.

nonstaff

pre 13 godina

Sir, you have no idea how right you are. I have first hand info that ICJ will lean towards Serbia and that the Kosovo leadership is in deep trouble. This mess have just started, but Serbia have all to gain from it. Wait and see.
(Staff, 10 July 2010 17:28)
Isn't the internet a wonderful thing. With anonyminity we can be anyone we want, predict anything we want, say anything we want. What is the consequences of being wrong, we just change our screen name.
The reality is though, people who would actually be privy to such information would not be posting on websites.

milan

pre 13 godina

Once again, in the distance, the same storm stirs. This is not a storm of nature but a storm generated by that which is unatural in the hearts of people.

This storm does not come to replenish the earth and help sown seeds grow. This storm comes to make the earth soft and easy for graves to be dug.

I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary, the evil it does is permanent.

pray for peace

cccc

Jarina

pre 13 godina

Kosova Interior Minister Bajram Rexhepi quoted,

"In our meetings Rexhepi - Eulex we agreed to establish a multi-ethnic force. They exist, but we want to introduce the component of the Serb community, not create the impression that it's directed against the Serbian community. It is directed against criminals, regardless of ethnicity who belong".

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

(winston, 10 July 2010 12:33)
Sir, you have no idea how right you are. I have first hand info that ICJ will lean towards Serbia and that the Kosovo leadership is in deep trouble. This mess have just started, but Serbia have all to gain from it. Wait and see.
(Staff, 10 July 2010 17:28)

And I have totally different information. Let's see who has the right information!!!

urnrg

pre 13 godina

Be careful, Serbia, of these provocateurs. They will try to incite but use wisdom, law, history, resolution and resolve in ever increasing pressure and the interim body will succumb to its own illusions.

roberto

pre 13 godina

Hey, village-bey, welcome back. haven't heard fr you in a while.

i agree w/ the thrust of yr comment -- it is up to the international presence (EULEX) to insure meaningful rule of law throughout Kosova. and real borders. period. whatever these drama-queens from the north may be screaming. including protection of ALL minorities, right of return, UNsafe space for the (multi-ethnic) mafia, unsafe space for mup agents. due process of law. this is eulex's basic function, and the longer they play footsie, the longer no one takes them seriously.

this has nothing to do w/ the icj ruling, which i have repeated at least 20 times will NEVER rule in favor of blgd, watch that bet... nor should it.

as for the "progess" in appropriate spellings here, etc, not sure how far your tongue is embedded in cheek. from my pov, language is at least as inflammatory as ever, tensions pumped up, and i am NOT just referring to those "nice" politicians.

ciao!

roberto
frisco

Joe

pre 13 godina

""Why would they want to include people in their so-called country who don't want to be included?"

Serbs should have asked themselves this same question late in the 19th century and then again and again. But that has not been the operating principle when the Balkans' borders were set. The operating principle has been that of brute power (especially that of Russia), "legaliness" and of course the golden rule of Serbian external relations (what I have is mine, and what you have we can negotiate about"

albi

How true. And the use of brute power - Milosevic proved it - does not work anymore.

Mike

pre 13 godina

And the predictable tussle continues.

1. Pristina says/provokes with something stupid like this.

2. Tadic, Bodganovic, Jeremic, et al respond as everyone expects them to.

3. Feith could end the issue right there by either saying something like "EULEX will be neutral", or calling aside one of Pristina's apparatchiks and telling him to be quiet.

Or Feith could up the ante by saying something like "the rule of law must be uniform in Kosovo" or something like that and make some veiled statement/threat of opening up that threatening-looking office building in KM.

4. If it's the first, the issue dies down until Pristina comes up with another lame-brain scheme of pissing off the Serb community for the sake of multiethnic harmony.

If it's the latter, Tadic/Jeremic go to the UN (good job Pejoni, you're paying attention).

5. Pristina learns that KFOR, which is already stationed up north and enjoying the burek and turska kafa in one of the many Serbian kafane (and paying for them with Serbian dinar) will not take sides. A statement is made about needing to keep the peace and not escalate any Albanian-initiated problems any further. Pristina realizes its boasts cannot match its limited capabilities.

The issue goes away and we have another week or two of mindless EU-prattle mixed in with random rock-throwing by Albanian kids at Serb returnees in Zac before someone in Pristina decides to try something again.

Repeat from Step 2.

Trust me folks, we've seen this movie before.

Staff

pre 13 godina

(winston, 10 July 2010 12:33)
Sir, you have no idea how right you are. I have first hand info that ICJ will lean towards Serbia and that the Kosovo leadership is in deep trouble. This mess have just started, but Serbia have all to gain from it. Wait and see.

albi

pre 13 godina

"Why would they want to include people in their so-called country who don't want to be included?"

Serbs should have asked themselves this same question late in the 19th century and then again and again. But that has not been the operating principle when the Balkans' borders were set. The operating principle has been that of brute power (especially that of Russia), "legaliness" and of course the golden rule of Serbian external relations (what I have is mine, and what you have we can negotiate about"

It was about time that Serbs tried some of their own medicine. There are still Albanian territories in Presevo that are administered unjustly by Serbia btw. Apply your principle (why include them when they don't want to be included) and let them free.

Ron

pre 13 godina

The world must make clear to the Albanians that Kosovo still is a Serbian province ruled by UN.

This can change. But only by MUTUAL agreement!

ynwa

pre 13 godina

Rexhepi, who is the interior minister in the Kosovo government, said that Priština would be sending special police forces to northern Kosovo in order to establish peace and order in the region.

How is that a threat?
Towns in kosovo need policing, nobody breaks the peace

Daniel

pre 13 godina

Wow, these Albanians are sure acting as if they are omnipotent. It seems to me that they believe they can act with impunity. Of course, in the past they could. I'll bet they believe that if they attack northern Kosovo, the US will be flying cover for them. Indeed, Clinton and the other idiots are probably making those promises. Unfortunately, they lack power to back up such promises. If Albos attack, they will be directly responsible for starting a new Balkan war. I still don't understand their obsession with K. Mitrovica. Why would they want to include people in their so-called country who don't want to be included? The Albos so desperately don't want to be part of a Serbian Kosovo, so why should they be trying to force Serbs to be part of an Albanian Kosovo? Makes no sense at all, at least to any person with an IQ above 70.

winston

pre 13 godina

Rexipiqi, under instruction from Pristina's illegal government, is making very volitile statements. maybe they think that Belgrade will take the bait, and react in some violent manner - it will not work. Obviously, the Albanians are concerned about the ICJ ruling, thus trying to force Belgrade's hand, so they can say, "See, told you so, those Serbs are violent". I cannot believe how childish and amatuer Pristina's phoney politicians are. Actually, they are not politicans at all, they are powerful criminal clan family members, that were placed in power by the occupying forces of the US/EU. They are a shame and disgrace to their own people.

village-bey

pre 13 godina

With increased satisfaction I’ve witness the replacement of Serbian spelling version of “Redjep” with the Albanian “Rexhepi”.
Anyone looking for hints on the changing attitudes of Serbia, this is it …
Only kidding.
Rexhepi has got a point though.
The only bargain chip of Serbia is the northern tip of Kosova. Insignificant as it might be to the Albanians, the situation is hardly conducive to lasting peace. Criminal gangs are making life impossible for inhabitants, who are trapped between a laissez faire attitude of international community, inability of Prishtina to do anything about the situation, and Belgrade’s habit of making life difficult for the new state.
Contrary to Rexhepi’s suggestion, I feel that only the internationals can deal with the criminality in the north. Kosovar intervention could make things worse.
If only these damn internationals weren’t so squeamish about a few hand granates.

Top

pre 13 godina

"Rexhepi, who is the interior minister in the Kosovo government, said that Priština would be sending special police forces to northern Kosovo in order to establish peace and order in the region."

Seems like this guy learnt from his great idol Slobodan Milosevic. How did all this Kosovo disaster start? By sending Serbian police, army and "special forces" to Kosovo, to preserve/restore the socalled "law and order" there.

History repeating. It's bizarre!

Mr Q

pre 13 godina

First isolation (not attending regional gatherings) and now talking about war. Who said Milosevic is dead!!!He is reincarnated in the shape of Tadic, Jeremic, Dacic etc. Remember Mr President in 1998 Kosova was on its own but now it has the most powerful democracies in the world on its side. I dare you go any where near Kosova or Mitrovica for that matter. Even the little glimpse of hope you had to take a bit of Kosova is fading away.

Oso

pre 13 godina

Things are about to change in the northern Kosova EULEX is there because we asked them to come and Serbia if it was to do something about it they should have done it before things went to far and now we are at the point of NO return,so be it.

Daniel

pre 13 godina

Wow, these Albanians are sure acting as if they are omnipotent. It seems to me that they believe they can act with impunity. Of course, in the past they could. I'll bet they believe that if they attack northern Kosovo, the US will be flying cover for them. Indeed, Clinton and the other idiots are probably making those promises. Unfortunately, they lack power to back up such promises. If Albos attack, they will be directly responsible for starting a new Balkan war. I still don't understand their obsession with K. Mitrovica. Why would they want to include people in their so-called country who don't want to be included? The Albos so desperately don't want to be part of a Serbian Kosovo, so why should they be trying to force Serbs to be part of an Albanian Kosovo? Makes no sense at all, at least to any person with an IQ above 70.

winston

pre 13 godina

Rexipiqi, under instruction from Pristina's illegal government, is making very volitile statements. maybe they think that Belgrade will take the bait, and react in some violent manner - it will not work. Obviously, the Albanians are concerned about the ICJ ruling, thus trying to force Belgrade's hand, so they can say, "See, told you so, those Serbs are violent". I cannot believe how childish and amatuer Pristina's phoney politicians are. Actually, they are not politicans at all, they are powerful criminal clan family members, that were placed in power by the occupying forces of the US/EU. They are a shame and disgrace to their own people.

Ron

pre 13 godina

The world must make clear to the Albanians that Kosovo still is a Serbian province ruled by UN.

This can change. But only by MUTUAL agreement!

Mr Q

pre 13 godina

First isolation (not attending regional gatherings) and now talking about war. Who said Milosevic is dead!!!He is reincarnated in the shape of Tadic, Jeremic, Dacic etc. Remember Mr President in 1998 Kosova was on its own but now it has the most powerful democracies in the world on its side. I dare you go any where near Kosova or Mitrovica for that matter. Even the little glimpse of hope you had to take a bit of Kosova is fading away.

Staff

pre 13 godina

(winston, 10 July 2010 12:33)
Sir, you have no idea how right you are. I have first hand info that ICJ will lean towards Serbia and that the Kosovo leadership is in deep trouble. This mess have just started, but Serbia have all to gain from it. Wait and see.

ynwa

pre 13 godina

Rexhepi, who is the interior minister in the Kosovo government, said that Priština would be sending special police forces to northern Kosovo in order to establish peace and order in the region.

How is that a threat?
Towns in kosovo need policing, nobody breaks the peace

urnrg

pre 13 godina

Be careful, Serbia, of these provocateurs. They will try to incite but use wisdom, law, history, resolution and resolve in ever increasing pressure and the interim body will succumb to its own illusions.

Top

pre 13 godina

"Rexhepi, who is the interior minister in the Kosovo government, said that Priština would be sending special police forces to northern Kosovo in order to establish peace and order in the region."

Seems like this guy learnt from his great idol Slobodan Milosevic. How did all this Kosovo disaster start? By sending Serbian police, army and "special forces" to Kosovo, to preserve/restore the socalled "law and order" there.

History repeating. It's bizarre!

village-bey

pre 13 godina

With increased satisfaction I’ve witness the replacement of Serbian spelling version of “Redjep” with the Albanian “Rexhepi”.
Anyone looking for hints on the changing attitudes of Serbia, this is it …
Only kidding.
Rexhepi has got a point though.
The only bargain chip of Serbia is the northern tip of Kosova. Insignificant as it might be to the Albanians, the situation is hardly conducive to lasting peace. Criminal gangs are making life impossible for inhabitants, who are trapped between a laissez faire attitude of international community, inability of Prishtina to do anything about the situation, and Belgrade’s habit of making life difficult for the new state.
Contrary to Rexhepi’s suggestion, I feel that only the internationals can deal with the criminality in the north. Kosovar intervention could make things worse.
If only these damn internationals weren’t so squeamish about a few hand granates.

milan

pre 13 godina

Once again, in the distance, the same storm stirs. This is not a storm of nature but a storm generated by that which is unatural in the hearts of people.

This storm does not come to replenish the earth and help sown seeds grow. This storm comes to make the earth soft and easy for graves to be dug.

I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary, the evil it does is permanent.

pray for peace

cccc

Mike

pre 13 godina

And the predictable tussle continues.

1. Pristina says/provokes with something stupid like this.

2. Tadic, Bodganovic, Jeremic, et al respond as everyone expects them to.

3. Feith could end the issue right there by either saying something like "EULEX will be neutral", or calling aside one of Pristina's apparatchiks and telling him to be quiet.

Or Feith could up the ante by saying something like "the rule of law must be uniform in Kosovo" or something like that and make some veiled statement/threat of opening up that threatening-looking office building in KM.

4. If it's the first, the issue dies down until Pristina comes up with another lame-brain scheme of pissing off the Serb community for the sake of multiethnic harmony.

If it's the latter, Tadic/Jeremic go to the UN (good job Pejoni, you're paying attention).

5. Pristina learns that KFOR, which is already stationed up north and enjoying the burek and turska kafa in one of the many Serbian kafane (and paying for them with Serbian dinar) will not take sides. A statement is made about needing to keep the peace and not escalate any Albanian-initiated problems any further. Pristina realizes its boasts cannot match its limited capabilities.

The issue goes away and we have another week or two of mindless EU-prattle mixed in with random rock-throwing by Albanian kids at Serb returnees in Zac before someone in Pristina decides to try something again.

Repeat from Step 2.

Trust me folks, we've seen this movie before.

PPksky

pre 13 godina

Borders are the real issue here and what people are really talking about when they declare war on criminal activity. The Albanians are the real source of criminal activity in Kosovo and the Albanians need police authority to further enable criminal activity in the region by enabling direct contact between Albanian communities in Kosovo and the rest of Serbia.

Of course the border between Kosovo and Albania is unpoliced. Kosovo represents Greater Albania to the Albanians and once they can police the north on the Serbian border, Greater Albania can begin to creep into the rest of Serbia.

The EU and the UN indulge themselves with a sadistic preoccupation over the lying about the Serbs and the theft of their land and property.

If the Albanians send "police" to northern Kosovo, close to the borders marking the rest of Serbia, the EU or the UN are going to have to do something about it or they will have nothing to say if the Serbs do something themselves.

albi

pre 13 godina

"Why would they want to include people in their so-called country who don't want to be included?"

Serbs should have asked themselves this same question late in the 19th century and then again and again. But that has not been the operating principle when the Balkans' borders were set. The operating principle has been that of brute power (especially that of Russia), "legaliness" and of course the golden rule of Serbian external relations (what I have is mine, and what you have we can negotiate about"

It was about time that Serbs tried some of their own medicine. There are still Albanian territories in Presevo that are administered unjustly by Serbia btw. Apply your principle (why include them when they don't want to be included) and let them free.

Pete.

pre 13 godina

The only criminal gangs in 'Kosova' are the ones masquerading as politicians in pristina. I see your chum tony blair pitched up yesterday to howls of approval from parents who named their kids after him. How sad is that. Those poor devils are now lumbered with the moniker of a man reviled throughout the western world and beyond. Truly a primitive laughing stock.

kufr

pre 13 godina

Even though I am just sitting in exile in a EU country and reading news over the internet it seems obvious this is a provocation from Pristina. Not even a very good provocation. I am sure Belgrade has some chessplaying advisors that won't fall for this bait.

It might even be an albanian threat directed to the ICJ: "Make the right decision or we will start trouble in the north".

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

(winston, 10 July 2010 12:33)
Sir, you have no idea how right you are. I have first hand info that ICJ will lean towards Serbia and that the Kosovo leadership is in deep trouble. This mess have just started, but Serbia have all to gain from it. Wait and see.
(Staff, 10 July 2010 17:28)

And I have totally different information. Let's see who has the right information!!!

lids

pre 13 godina

This just show how uneducated and ignorant this Redxepi is.
EULEX will train multinationals,but not becaouse of prishtina`s thirst for bloodshed,but to prove that they are there to bring some normalcy in clansmans land.
They all must be inhaling number one import of albania,how else could one take them seriosly.

Oso

pre 13 godina

Things are about to change in the northern Kosova EULEX is there because we asked them to come and Serbia if it was to do something about it they should have done it before things went to far and now we are at the point of NO return,so be it.

Joe

pre 13 godina

""Why would they want to include people in their so-called country who don't want to be included?"

Serbs should have asked themselves this same question late in the 19th century and then again and again. But that has not been the operating principle when the Balkans' borders were set. The operating principle has been that of brute power (especially that of Russia), "legaliness" and of course the golden rule of Serbian external relations (what I have is mine, and what you have we can negotiate about"

albi

How true. And the use of brute power - Milosevic proved it - does not work anymore.

nonstaff

pre 13 godina

Sir, you have no idea how right you are. I have first hand info that ICJ will lean towards Serbia and that the Kosovo leadership is in deep trouble. This mess have just started, but Serbia have all to gain from it. Wait and see.
(Staff, 10 July 2010 17:28)
Isn't the internet a wonderful thing. With anonyminity we can be anyone we want, predict anything we want, say anything we want. What is the consequences of being wrong, we just change our screen name.
The reality is though, people who would actually be privy to such information would not be posting on websites.

Colin

pre 13 godina

Roberto,

You would have far more credibility with more people if you weren't so one sided.

A unilateral decision by an ethnic community to remove themselves from a country - because of that countries people does not stack up when they wish to impose themselves over 200,000 people of Serbian ethnicity. If Pristina really wanted a UDI based on their troubles with Serbs, they would have taken the land south of the Ibar, built a great big wall and said goodbye.

Over the last few months we have seen shots fired at returning Serbs, rocks thrown and now people being killed and shot.

Now from my viewpoint, not one of the incidents above has gone punished.

Now your side of the story appears to be that Serbs are inherently bad - that all bad in the region comes from Serb people.

Yet, if Serbs orchestrated attacks on themselves, surely they would have orchestrated revenge attacks if they were as malicious as you purport them to be?

I will give you a famous line I hear everywhere on my travels, and would like you and many others to conisder it.

Serbian people I speak to don't pretend bad things did not happen under Milosevic's reign.

Serbs however rile at suggestions they are the only ones who caused issues, the only ones who committed crimes and the only ones who should be punished.

Your words would carry far more credence as a person who espouses peace if you were to acknowledge that fact.

or perhaps you just want to take in the west's current version of the truth, as it is easy for the western media to promote every war as having a "good guy and a bad guy" - or to be a battle against some sort of "ism" - whether is be communism, terrorism or the like.

roberto

pre 13 godina

Hey, village-bey, welcome back. haven't heard fr you in a while.

i agree w/ the thrust of yr comment -- it is up to the international presence (EULEX) to insure meaningful rule of law throughout Kosova. and real borders. period. whatever these drama-queens from the north may be screaming. including protection of ALL minorities, right of return, UNsafe space for the (multi-ethnic) mafia, unsafe space for mup agents. due process of law. this is eulex's basic function, and the longer they play footsie, the longer no one takes them seriously.

this has nothing to do w/ the icj ruling, which i have repeated at least 20 times will NEVER rule in favor of blgd, watch that bet... nor should it.

as for the "progess" in appropriate spellings here, etc, not sure how far your tongue is embedded in cheek. from my pov, language is at least as inflammatory as ever, tensions pumped up, and i am NOT just referring to those "nice" politicians.

ciao!

roberto
frisco

Jarina

pre 13 godina

Kosova Interior Minister Bajram Rexhepi quoted,

"In our meetings Rexhepi - Eulex we agreed to establish a multi-ethnic force. They exist, but we want to introduce the component of the Serb community, not create the impression that it's directed against the Serbian community. It is directed against criminals, regardless of ethnicity who belong".

Mike

pre 13 godina

"village-bey, village-idiot more like." (Pete)

C'mon Pete. Village-bey is one of the people on the opposite side a number of us on Team Belgrade respect. That he actually acknowledges Pristina's folly in attempting to control the north through force is a rarity from its proponents. He certainly doesn't need my support, nor did he ask for it, but if there were more village-beys commenting for Team Pristina, we'd actually have interesting and mature debates more often.

Gossamer

pre 13 godina

Well, there is nothing Serbia can do since all of Kosovo, including all the of the North, do not have Serbian army or police officers, and NATO soldiers are on the control.

johny

pre 13 godina

Mike said:
"1. Pristina says/provokes with something stupid like this. "

-- I still fail to see the provocation here. A bunch of ethnic Serb policemen will be sent to an ethnic Serb area, inside Kosova.

If they sent ethnic Albanian policemen in Nish then we could be talking about provocation or the other idiotic thing Tadic said; war. Until then Tadic and Co. can b$ all they want, scream all they want and hope for violence all they want. None of that sh.t is going to result in N. Mitrovica being separated. You know why? Because the UK, France, Germany, and the US do not want that. Now you and your politicians can become as hysterical as you want. It ain't gonna happen just cuz they said so.

Pete

pre 13 godina

'If only these damn internationals weren't so squeamish about a few hand granates' appears to allude to a hand grenade thrown at a peaceful demonstration, resulting in the death of a respected local doctor. Or am I mistaken Mike. But if I'm not, this individual is hardly whether of respect is he. I'm afraid I'm not interested in team pristina or team belgrade. Just the death of an innocent man.

Matthew

pre 13 godina

Pete,

Village-Bey is one of the most moderate people to post on this site.

He’s most likely referring to the international’s reluctance to put themselves in harm’s way to help the situation.

I don’t always agree with him, but I always respect him and his comments.

Mr Q

pre 13 godina

First isolation (not attending regional gatherings) and now talking about war. Who said Milosevic is dead!!!He is reincarnated in the shape of Tadic, Jeremic, Dacic etc. Remember Mr President in 1998 Kosova was on its own but now it has the most powerful democracies in the world on its side. I dare you go any where near Kosova or Mitrovica for that matter. Even the little glimpse of hope you had to take a bit of Kosova is fading away.

ynwa

pre 13 godina

Rexhepi, who is the interior minister in the Kosovo government, said that Priština would be sending special police forces to northern Kosovo in order to establish peace and order in the region.

How is that a threat?
Towns in kosovo need policing, nobody breaks the peace

Oso

pre 13 godina

Things are about to change in the northern Kosova EULEX is there because we asked them to come and Serbia if it was to do something about it they should have done it before things went to far and now we are at the point of NO return,so be it.

Ron

pre 13 godina

The world must make clear to the Albanians that Kosovo still is a Serbian province ruled by UN.

This can change. But only by MUTUAL agreement!

village-bey

pre 13 godina

With increased satisfaction I’ve witness the replacement of Serbian spelling version of “Redjep” with the Albanian “Rexhepi”.
Anyone looking for hints on the changing attitudes of Serbia, this is it …
Only kidding.
Rexhepi has got a point though.
The only bargain chip of Serbia is the northern tip of Kosova. Insignificant as it might be to the Albanians, the situation is hardly conducive to lasting peace. Criminal gangs are making life impossible for inhabitants, who are trapped between a laissez faire attitude of international community, inability of Prishtina to do anything about the situation, and Belgrade’s habit of making life difficult for the new state.
Contrary to Rexhepi’s suggestion, I feel that only the internationals can deal with the criminality in the north. Kosovar intervention could make things worse.
If only these damn internationals weren’t so squeamish about a few hand granates.

roberto

pre 13 godina

Hey, village-bey, welcome back. haven't heard fr you in a while.

i agree w/ the thrust of yr comment -- it is up to the international presence (EULEX) to insure meaningful rule of law throughout Kosova. and real borders. period. whatever these drama-queens from the north may be screaming. including protection of ALL minorities, right of return, UNsafe space for the (multi-ethnic) mafia, unsafe space for mup agents. due process of law. this is eulex's basic function, and the longer they play footsie, the longer no one takes them seriously.

this has nothing to do w/ the icj ruling, which i have repeated at least 20 times will NEVER rule in favor of blgd, watch that bet... nor should it.

as for the "progess" in appropriate spellings here, etc, not sure how far your tongue is embedded in cheek. from my pov, language is at least as inflammatory as ever, tensions pumped up, and i am NOT just referring to those "nice" politicians.

ciao!

roberto
frisco

winston

pre 13 godina

Rexipiqi, under instruction from Pristina's illegal government, is making very volitile statements. maybe they think that Belgrade will take the bait, and react in some violent manner - it will not work. Obviously, the Albanians are concerned about the ICJ ruling, thus trying to force Belgrade's hand, so they can say, "See, told you so, those Serbs are violent". I cannot believe how childish and amatuer Pristina's phoney politicians are. Actually, they are not politicans at all, they are powerful criminal clan family members, that were placed in power by the occupying forces of the US/EU. They are a shame and disgrace to their own people.

albi

pre 13 godina

"Why would they want to include people in their so-called country who don't want to be included?"

Serbs should have asked themselves this same question late in the 19th century and then again and again. But that has not been the operating principle when the Balkans' borders were set. The operating principle has been that of brute power (especially that of Russia), "legaliness" and of course the golden rule of Serbian external relations (what I have is mine, and what you have we can negotiate about"

It was about time that Serbs tried some of their own medicine. There are still Albanian territories in Presevo that are administered unjustly by Serbia btw. Apply your principle (why include them when they don't want to be included) and let them free.

Top

pre 13 godina

"Rexhepi, who is the interior minister in the Kosovo government, said that Priština would be sending special police forces to northern Kosovo in order to establish peace and order in the region."

Seems like this guy learnt from his great idol Slobodan Milosevic. How did all this Kosovo disaster start? By sending Serbian police, army and "special forces" to Kosovo, to preserve/restore the socalled "law and order" there.

History repeating. It's bizarre!

Staff

pre 13 godina

(winston, 10 July 2010 12:33)
Sir, you have no idea how right you are. I have first hand info that ICJ will lean towards Serbia and that the Kosovo leadership is in deep trouble. This mess have just started, but Serbia have all to gain from it. Wait and see.

Joe

pre 13 godina

""Why would they want to include people in their so-called country who don't want to be included?"

Serbs should have asked themselves this same question late in the 19th century and then again and again. But that has not been the operating principle when the Balkans' borders were set. The operating principle has been that of brute power (especially that of Russia), "legaliness" and of course the golden rule of Serbian external relations (what I have is mine, and what you have we can negotiate about"

albi

How true. And the use of brute power - Milosevic proved it - does not work anymore.

Daniel

pre 13 godina

Wow, these Albanians are sure acting as if they are omnipotent. It seems to me that they believe they can act with impunity. Of course, in the past they could. I'll bet they believe that if they attack northern Kosovo, the US will be flying cover for them. Indeed, Clinton and the other idiots are probably making those promises. Unfortunately, they lack power to back up such promises. If Albos attack, they will be directly responsible for starting a new Balkan war. I still don't understand their obsession with K. Mitrovica. Why would they want to include people in their so-called country who don't want to be included? The Albos so desperately don't want to be part of a Serbian Kosovo, so why should they be trying to force Serbs to be part of an Albanian Kosovo? Makes no sense at all, at least to any person with an IQ above 70.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

(winston, 10 July 2010 12:33)
Sir, you have no idea how right you are. I have first hand info that ICJ will lean towards Serbia and that the Kosovo leadership is in deep trouble. This mess have just started, but Serbia have all to gain from it. Wait and see.
(Staff, 10 July 2010 17:28)

And I have totally different information. Let's see who has the right information!!!

Pete.

pre 13 godina

The only criminal gangs in 'Kosova' are the ones masquerading as politicians in pristina. I see your chum tony blair pitched up yesterday to howls of approval from parents who named their kids after him. How sad is that. Those poor devils are now lumbered with the moniker of a man reviled throughout the western world and beyond. Truly a primitive laughing stock.

nonstaff

pre 13 godina

Sir, you have no idea how right you are. I have first hand info that ICJ will lean towards Serbia and that the Kosovo leadership is in deep trouble. This mess have just started, but Serbia have all to gain from it. Wait and see.
(Staff, 10 July 2010 17:28)
Isn't the internet a wonderful thing. With anonyminity we can be anyone we want, predict anything we want, say anything we want. What is the consequences of being wrong, we just change our screen name.
The reality is though, people who would actually be privy to such information would not be posting on websites.

lids

pre 13 godina

This just show how uneducated and ignorant this Redxepi is.
EULEX will train multinationals,but not becaouse of prishtina`s thirst for bloodshed,but to prove that they are there to bring some normalcy in clansmans land.
They all must be inhaling number one import of albania,how else could one take them seriosly.

kufr

pre 13 godina

Even though I am just sitting in exile in a EU country and reading news over the internet it seems obvious this is a provocation from Pristina. Not even a very good provocation. I am sure Belgrade has some chessplaying advisors that won't fall for this bait.

It might even be an albanian threat directed to the ICJ: "Make the right decision or we will start trouble in the north".

Colin

pre 13 godina

Roberto,

You would have far more credibility with more people if you weren't so one sided.

A unilateral decision by an ethnic community to remove themselves from a country - because of that countries people does not stack up when they wish to impose themselves over 200,000 people of Serbian ethnicity. If Pristina really wanted a UDI based on their troubles with Serbs, they would have taken the land south of the Ibar, built a great big wall and said goodbye.

Over the last few months we have seen shots fired at returning Serbs, rocks thrown and now people being killed and shot.

Now from my viewpoint, not one of the incidents above has gone punished.

Now your side of the story appears to be that Serbs are inherently bad - that all bad in the region comes from Serb people.

Yet, if Serbs orchestrated attacks on themselves, surely they would have orchestrated revenge attacks if they were as malicious as you purport them to be?

I will give you a famous line I hear everywhere on my travels, and would like you and many others to conisder it.

Serbian people I speak to don't pretend bad things did not happen under Milosevic's reign.

Serbs however rile at suggestions they are the only ones who caused issues, the only ones who committed crimes and the only ones who should be punished.

Your words would carry far more credence as a person who espouses peace if you were to acknowledge that fact.

or perhaps you just want to take in the west's current version of the truth, as it is easy for the western media to promote every war as having a "good guy and a bad guy" - or to be a battle against some sort of "ism" - whether is be communism, terrorism or the like.

Mike

pre 13 godina

And the predictable tussle continues.

1. Pristina says/provokes with something stupid like this.

2. Tadic, Bodganovic, Jeremic, et al respond as everyone expects them to.

3. Feith could end the issue right there by either saying something like "EULEX will be neutral", or calling aside one of Pristina's apparatchiks and telling him to be quiet.

Or Feith could up the ante by saying something like "the rule of law must be uniform in Kosovo" or something like that and make some veiled statement/threat of opening up that threatening-looking office building in KM.

4. If it's the first, the issue dies down until Pristina comes up with another lame-brain scheme of pissing off the Serb community for the sake of multiethnic harmony.

If it's the latter, Tadic/Jeremic go to the UN (good job Pejoni, you're paying attention).

5. Pristina learns that KFOR, which is already stationed up north and enjoying the burek and turska kafa in one of the many Serbian kafane (and paying for them with Serbian dinar) will not take sides. A statement is made about needing to keep the peace and not escalate any Albanian-initiated problems any further. Pristina realizes its boasts cannot match its limited capabilities.

The issue goes away and we have another week or two of mindless EU-prattle mixed in with random rock-throwing by Albanian kids at Serb returnees in Zac before someone in Pristina decides to try something again.

Repeat from Step 2.

Trust me folks, we've seen this movie before.

PPksky

pre 13 godina

Borders are the real issue here and what people are really talking about when they declare war on criminal activity. The Albanians are the real source of criminal activity in Kosovo and the Albanians need police authority to further enable criminal activity in the region by enabling direct contact between Albanian communities in Kosovo and the rest of Serbia.

Of course the border between Kosovo and Albania is unpoliced. Kosovo represents Greater Albania to the Albanians and once they can police the north on the Serbian border, Greater Albania can begin to creep into the rest of Serbia.

The EU and the UN indulge themselves with a sadistic preoccupation over the lying about the Serbs and the theft of their land and property.

If the Albanians send "police" to northern Kosovo, close to the borders marking the rest of Serbia, the EU or the UN are going to have to do something about it or they will have nothing to say if the Serbs do something themselves.

milan

pre 13 godina

Once again, in the distance, the same storm stirs. This is not a storm of nature but a storm generated by that which is unatural in the hearts of people.

This storm does not come to replenish the earth and help sown seeds grow. This storm comes to make the earth soft and easy for graves to be dug.

I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary, the evil it does is permanent.

pray for peace

cccc

urnrg

pre 13 godina

Be careful, Serbia, of these provocateurs. They will try to incite but use wisdom, law, history, resolution and resolve in ever increasing pressure and the interim body will succumb to its own illusions.

Gossamer

pre 13 godina

Well, there is nothing Serbia can do since all of Kosovo, including all the of the North, do not have Serbian army or police officers, and NATO soldiers are on the control.

johny

pre 13 godina

Mike said:
"1. Pristina says/provokes with something stupid like this. "

-- I still fail to see the provocation here. A bunch of ethnic Serb policemen will be sent to an ethnic Serb area, inside Kosova.

If they sent ethnic Albanian policemen in Nish then we could be talking about provocation or the other idiotic thing Tadic said; war. Until then Tadic and Co. can b$ all they want, scream all they want and hope for violence all they want. None of that sh.t is going to result in N. Mitrovica being separated. You know why? Because the UK, France, Germany, and the US do not want that. Now you and your politicians can become as hysterical as you want. It ain't gonna happen just cuz they said so.

Jarina

pre 13 godina

Kosova Interior Minister Bajram Rexhepi quoted,

"In our meetings Rexhepi - Eulex we agreed to establish a multi-ethnic force. They exist, but we want to introduce the component of the Serb community, not create the impression that it's directed against the Serbian community. It is directed against criminals, regardless of ethnicity who belong".

Pete

pre 13 godina

'If only these damn internationals weren't so squeamish about a few hand granates' appears to allude to a hand grenade thrown at a peaceful demonstration, resulting in the death of a respected local doctor. Or am I mistaken Mike. But if I'm not, this individual is hardly whether of respect is he. I'm afraid I'm not interested in team pristina or team belgrade. Just the death of an innocent man.

Matthew

pre 13 godina

Pete,

Village-Bey is one of the most moderate people to post on this site.

He’s most likely referring to the international’s reluctance to put themselves in harm’s way to help the situation.

I don’t always agree with him, but I always respect him and his comments.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"village-bey, village-idiot more like." (Pete)

C'mon Pete. Village-bey is one of the people on the opposite side a number of us on Team Belgrade respect. That he actually acknowledges Pristina's folly in attempting to control the north through force is a rarity from its proponents. He certainly doesn't need my support, nor did he ask for it, but if there were more village-beys commenting for Team Pristina, we'd actually have interesting and mature debates more often.