Clinton calls for end of Russian "occupation" of Georgia

"Clinton calls for end of Russian "occupation" of Georgia"

Why don't the Yankees set an example by withdrawing from Iraq, Afghanistan, Okinawa, Guantanamo, etc etc? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

Is this some kind of remote controlled AIPAC robot or does she speak for her government?

Russia has on request PEACEKEPERS in those de facto independent states protecting local and russian citizens, 10 of the peacekeepers killed by the US puppet-dictator Saakaswahili in a surprise attack in cold blood.

Sergei Lavrov should remind her, on the other hand, what the US & israel are doing in the middle east...

What Madam Klintonka meant to say was, "The US will always practice a foreign policy that is individually tailored to a specific foreign country, or region, in order to establish a foothold, and then control the said area, under the disguise of spreading democracy, for the self-serving benefit of the USA. We will have differing hypocritic policies towards, let's Kosovo, where we helped the local Albanians steal and occupy land from Serbia, yet we will not allow Russia to do the same things we have done. we will ridicule other foreign powers for mimicking our actions, and dismiss these actions as illegal. We will do this because, well, because we can. Until we become weaker and totally impotent on the world stage, expect our hypocritic foreign policies to continue. We are afterall interested in our own benefit, or maybe at present, survival, so we will stay this course as long as we can without any conscience or shame."

Is this some kind of remote controlled AIPAC robot or does she speak for her government?
(huh?, 6 July 2010 11:04)
Well you cannot be in that position without being remote controlled by AIPEC.Hilly just follows the steps of Condy and Maddy.

President Saakashvili notes that Clinton's use of the word "occupation" is especially meaningful.

"America was the first one to mention this word, and now the others are following," said Saakashvili

Empty populist gestures from bankrupt empires.There is no more money in the kitty to prop up the Saakshvillis of this world.


I have to admit that i was surprised by Saak's longevity.I think this had to do more with Russia because they would rather keep a dead zombie in power than have a new unpredictable
president.

If I was Putin/Medved, I wouldn't even justify this woman's nonsense with an answer or even a response.

The only thing I would probably do is fly to Serbia, arrange a big conference in Belgrade, stand alongside Tadic and tell the US to honour the Kosovo agreement of UNSC1244.

America and Russia's governments are still filled with the same kind of imperialists which instigated and maintained the Cold War.

The glaring hypocrisy of both sides is almost painful!

What Russia did in Chechnya, America did in Afghanistan and Iraq, what Russia did in Ossetia and Abkhazia, Americans did in Kosovo.

At the end of the day, while these two bullies try to expand their sphere of influence (this time without an excuse, like they had during the Cold War), who suffers? The countries of Georgia and Serbia, two small ancient and proud countries. I won't even go into the suffering of the average Iraqi, Chechen and Pashtun languishing under the imperialism of either one of these countries.

To conclude, dearest Hilary Clinton, you are in no position to tell anybody to do what you are doing as well. It is contradictory and hypocritical. And stupid.

America is no better than Russia. In fact, worse, because on top of what they do, they have this supposed moral high ground which they are so poisoned with, that they do not see the errors of their ways.

Russians just don't care.

America! Nobody listens to you anymore.
However, end your occupation of Kosovo and Mother Russia might consider your hypocrit proposal.

Maybe this lady should drink some georgian cognak go to museum dedicated to Stalin in Gori kiss his statue for luck and try to retake those territories from Russkies.After all we have a good example of Superwoman who even managed to avoid the leathel shots of those ugly serb snipers.Come on Hilly you can do it.

Maybe this lady should drink some georgian cognak go to museum dedicated to Stalin in Gori kiss his statue for luck and try to retake those territories from Russkies.After all we have a good example of Superwoman who even managed to avoid the leathel shots of those ugly serb snipers.Come on Hilly you can do it.
(szemi, 6 July 2010 17:11

Stalin's statue was ripped down by Saakshvili few days ago.He plans to replace him with a statue of the victims of his own folly.

Saak is either so deluded or so stupid to believe the US would've come to his aid in his war against Russia in defenceof liberty,democracy and all the usual populist ideological crap the US neocons devised.

Saak take it as man once in your life and admit the war was your own fault.The US,EU & Nato are not going to help you so you'll just have to suck it up and do whatever Mr Putin asks.

Secretary of state, the lying Hillary (shot at by serb snipers in Bosnia), has some nerve calling other countries occupiers, what the hell is the USA doing in Kosovo? This worn out old politician, riding on her husband's coattails, should be attached to a lie-detector everytime she speaks, otherwise she has zero credibility.

"Clinton calls for end of Russian "occupation" of Georgia

She is calling on the home media to quote her and thus make her appear tough on Russia to the winners. But what she knows and most of the world doesn't, is that after a couple of TV commercials of Ford trucks and swimming pools--the winners all forget that she even exists--they be too busy day-dreaming about driving that shinny new Ford pick-up with 24 cylinders, 6 turbos and 9 superchargers to McDonald's for a double-triple oversized/supersized snack with a diet Coke. And then go home and make super-sized bubbles in their super-sized swimming pool.

"What Russia did in Chechnya, America did in Afghanistan and Iraq, what Russia did in Ossetia and Abkhazia, Americans did in Kosovo."

Duud, like it or not but Chechnya is Russian territory and fighting US-armed terrorists (since the 80´s mind you) is what a legitimate nation-state is supposed and entitled to do. The same goes for Ossetia and Abkhazia which are Russias backyard and crucial for regional stability, hence the aggressively increased US saber rattling with sponsored dictators and terrorists thousands of miles from it´s shores.

"Clinton calls for end of Russian "occupation" of Georgia"

-- Now now Hillary. Every Late Imperial power needs one or two satillite parastates to control in order to make it look strong.

Russia as South Ossetia and Abkhazia, we have Kosovo, Iraq, and Afghanistan. You want Russia to give up its toys, we have to give up ours.

How come Jeremic or Tadic don't visit Tbilisi and give their support for Georgia's territorial integrity? There is no other country in the world in a most similar situation with Serbia than Georgia. Tadic should have mentioned Georgia today at the UNSC and condemn the russian occupation of Georgian territories.

The Russian occupation of Georgia will end as soon as the Albanian occupation of Kosovo ends.

so Ossetia is NOT Russia's backyard, while Kosovo *IS* USA's backyard?

(NATO is international, at least on paper, so your parallel was void)

Jesus, i have yet to meet such an hypocrite like you, hidden behind a politically correct mask.
(pyrros, 7 July 2010 12:06)
Well Peter is the last one who can be accused of being hypocrite and PC if you carefully read all his comments.Indeed drawing parallel between Russian presence in the that region and US in Kosovo rather reflects some naivity.If the russian bear had retreated the turkish rat would have filled the gap.The two oldest christian peoples armenians and georgians for example would have been long time ago killed off by barbaric turks.Of course Russkies are there mainly not to protect those people but too have strong natural border and access to natural resourses as well as a strtegicly important area but the above mentioned side effect cannot be ignored.

Peter Seduyka,
just to add smth more, when i see a russian and a pole, i dont notice any substantial differences.
Poles and Russians are like Croats and Serbs. same nation, different religion (unfortunately).

pyrros

You completely misunderstood my last post. Of course I am not claiming that Kosovo is NATO's backyard!

Quite the contrary!

All I am saying is that Russia has no right to interfere with Ossetia and Abkhazia, which are recognized as part of Georgia, THE SAME AS NATO has no right to interfere with Kosovo, which is recognized as part of Serbia.

Do you get it now?

I was just pointing out that both Russia and America have proven to be complete hypocrites in this regard and that people shouldn't be so narrow-minded as to justify one but not the other. Verstehen Sie?

szemi,
we have seen *tons* of such naiveness in the last 20 years.

Peter Seduyka,

so Ossetia is NOT Russia's backyard, while Kosovo *IS* USA's backyard?

(NATO is international, at least on paper, so your parallel was void)

Jesus, i have yet to meet such an hypocrite like you, hidden behind a politically correct mask.

huh?

Sorry, but there is no justification whatsoever for Russia's bombardment of Georgian and Chechnyan civilian infrastructure and civilian populace.

That would be as shallow as me saying that NATO had every right to bomb Serbia, since Kosovo is apparently NATO's backyard.

Abkhazia and Ossetia have nothing to do with Russia, except Russian imperialist and Soviet rule from decades if not centuries ago.

Don't follow Russia so blindly. They are no better than America.

Peter,
dont let the vatican propaganda damage your sane Slavic brain-cells.

Someone already brought up the notion that Russia's occupation of parts of Georgia (and recognizing their 'independence') is similar to what NATO did to Kosovo.

This is true. Why have people "thumbs down"ed the comment?

Russia's behaviour in Georgia undermines what it SAYS about Kosovo. Serbs should be standing up en mass for Georgia if they really care about Kosovo.

Should the US continue with its reset policy toward Russia?Absolutely yes!
Should it call Russia a democracy even if it is not by international standards?No!
In Russia journalists are being musled,threatened and killed...
The political and burocratic oligarchs are heavily engaging in corruption (up to 20% of GDP per year!!!)and getting away with it while the modernization isn`t going fast enough because of the stifling of private businesses by the burocracy and a system with no checks and balances in the political life which in consequence could lead to a nightmare scenario of a second Yeltsin coming to power and doing what he wants without anyone within the country standing up to him...
Yes,Putin did a lot of good things ,especially for the economy in his first term,he is intelligent,but in the long run Russia needs a functioning democratic state with clear rules for everyone and constitutional checks...
Remeber,things are much easier to destroy than to rebuild,a person like Gorbachev or Yeltsin in power again as president without strong parlamentarian and judicial control would crash Russia again .
This could happen very easily within totalitarian country where the ordinary citizens are not engaged actively and freely in politics,wheter as journalists,politicians or businessmen...

Oh Hilary(ious),

Its just not gonna happen! Sadly it was the Americans who gave intel and the greenlight to the Georgians a few years ago, then when everrything backfired their puppet in Tblisi was the scapegoat. It should be a good learning lesson for the Americans not to meddle in too many peoples backyards.

How come Jeremic or Tadic don't visit Tbilisi and give their support for Georgia's territorial integrity? There is no other country in the world in a most similar situation with Serbia than Georgia. Tadic should have mentioned Georgia today at the UNSC and condemn the russian occupation of Georgian territories.

huh?

Sorry, but there is no justification whatsoever for Russia's bombardment of Georgian and Chechnyan civilian infrastructure and civilian populace.

That would be as shallow as me saying that NATO had every right to bomb Serbia, since Kosovo is apparently NATO's backyard.

Abkhazia and Ossetia have nothing to do with Russia, except Russian imperialist and Soviet rule from decades if not centuries ago.

Don't follow Russia so blindly. They are no better than America.

"Clinton calls for end of Russian "occupation" of Georgia"

Why don't the Yankees set an example by withdrawing from Iraq, Afghanistan, Okinawa, Guantanamo, etc etc? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

Someone already brought up the notion that Russia's occupation of parts of Georgia (and recognizing their 'independence') is similar to what NATO did to Kosovo.

This is true. Why have people "thumbs down"ed the comment?

Russia's behaviour in Georgia undermines what it SAYS about Kosovo. Serbs should be standing up en mass for Georgia if they really care about Kosovo.

Is this some kind of remote controlled AIPAC robot or does she speak for her government?

Russia has on request PEACEKEPERS in those de facto independent states protecting local and russian citizens, 10 of the peacekeepers killed by the US puppet-dictator Saakaswahili in a surprise attack in cold blood.

Sergei Lavrov should remind her, on the other hand, what the US & israel are doing in the middle east...

"Clinton calls for end of Russian "occupation" of Georgia"

-- Now now Hillary. Every Late Imperial power needs one or two satillite parastates to control in order to make it look strong.

Russia as South Ossetia and Abkhazia, we have Kosovo, Iraq, and Afghanistan. You want Russia to give up its toys, we have to give up ours.

What Madam Klintonka meant to say was, "The US will always practice a foreign policy that is individually tailored to a specific foreign country, or region, in order to establish a foothold, and then control the said area, under the disguise of spreading democracy, for the self-serving benefit of the USA. We will have differing hypocritic policies towards, let's Kosovo, where we helped the local Albanians steal and occupy land from Serbia, yet we will not allow Russia to do the same things we have done. we will ridicule other foreign powers for mimicking our actions, and dismiss these actions as illegal. We will do this because, well, because we can. Until we become weaker and totally impotent on the world stage, expect our hypocritic foreign policies to continue. We are afterall interested in our own benefit, or maybe at present, survival, so we will stay this course as long as we can without any conscience or shame."

If I was Putin/Medved, I wouldn't even justify this woman's nonsense with an answer or even a response.

The only thing I would probably do is fly to Serbia, arrange a big conference in Belgrade, stand alongside Tadic and tell the US to honour the Kosovo agreement of UNSC1244.

America and Russia's governments are still filled with the same kind of imperialists which instigated and maintained the Cold War.

The glaring hypocrisy of both sides is almost painful!

What Russia did in Chechnya, America did in Afghanistan and Iraq, what Russia did in Ossetia and Abkhazia, Americans did in Kosovo.

At the end of the day, while these two bullies try to expand their sphere of influence (this time without an excuse, like they had during the Cold War), who suffers? The countries of Georgia and Serbia, two small ancient and proud countries. I won't even go into the suffering of the average Iraqi, Chechen and Pashtun languishing under the imperialism of either one of these countries.

To conclude, dearest Hilary Clinton, you are in no position to tell anybody to do what you are doing as well. It is contradictory and hypocritical. And stupid.

America is no better than Russia. In fact, worse, because on top of what they do, they have this supposed moral high ground which they are so poisoned with, that they do not see the errors of their ways.

Russians just don't care.

Maybe this lady should drink some georgian cognak go to museum dedicated to Stalin in Gori kiss his statue for luck and try to retake those territories from Russkies.After all we have a good example of Superwoman who even managed to avoid the leathel shots of those ugly serb snipers.Come on Hilly you can do it.

pyrros

You completely misunderstood my last post. Of course I am not claiming that Kosovo is NATO's backyard!

Quite the contrary!

All I am saying is that Russia has no right to interfere with Ossetia and Abkhazia, which are recognized as part of Georgia, THE SAME AS NATO has no right to interfere with Kosovo, which is recognized as part of Serbia.

Do you get it now?

I was just pointing out that both Russia and America have proven to be complete hypocrites in this regard and that people shouldn't be so narrow-minded as to justify one but not the other. Verstehen Sie?

Is this some kind of remote controlled AIPAC robot or does she speak for her government?
(huh?, 6 July 2010 11:04)
Well you cannot be in that position without being remote controlled by AIPEC.Hilly just follows the steps of Condy and Maddy.

President Saakashvili notes that Clinton's use of the word "occupation" is especially meaningful.

"America was the first one to mention this word, and now the others are following," said Saakashvili

Empty populist gestures from bankrupt empires.There is no more money in the kitty to prop up the Saakshvillis of this world.


I have to admit that i was surprised by Saak's longevity.I think this had to do more with Russia because they would rather keep a dead zombie in power than have a new unpredictable
president.

Peter,
dont let the vatican propaganda damage your sane Slavic brain-cells.

"What Russia did in Chechnya, America did in Afghanistan and Iraq, what Russia did in Ossetia and Abkhazia, Americans did in Kosovo."

Duud, like it or not but Chechnya is Russian territory and fighting US-armed terrorists (since the 80´s mind you) is what a legitimate nation-state is supposed and entitled to do. The same goes for Ossetia and Abkhazia which are Russias backyard and crucial for regional stability, hence the aggressively increased US saber rattling with sponsored dictators and terrorists thousands of miles from it´s shores.

America! Nobody listens to you anymore.
However, end your occupation of Kosovo and Mother Russia might consider your hypocrit proposal.

Should the US continue with its reset policy toward Russia?Absolutely yes!
Should it call Russia a democracy even if it is not by international standards?No!
In Russia journalists are being musled,threatened and killed...
The political and burocratic oligarchs are heavily engaging in corruption (up to 20% of GDP per year!!!)and getting away with it while the modernization isn`t going fast enough because of the stifling of private businesses by the burocracy and a system with no checks and balances in the political life which in consequence could lead to a nightmare scenario of a second Yeltsin coming to power and doing what he wants without anyone within the country standing up to him...
Yes,Putin did a lot of good things ,especially for the economy in his first term,he is intelligent,but in the long run Russia needs a functioning democratic state with clear rules for everyone and constitutional checks...
Remeber,things are much easier to destroy than to rebuild,a person like Gorbachev or Yeltsin in power again as president without strong parlamentarian and judicial control would crash Russia again .
This could happen very easily within totalitarian country where the ordinary citizens are not engaged actively and freely in politics,wheter as journalists,politicians or businessmen...

"Clinton calls for end of Russian "occupation" of Georgia

She is calling on the home media to quote her and thus make her appear tough on Russia to the winners. But what she knows and most of the world doesn't, is that after a couple of TV commercials of Ford trucks and swimming pools--the winners all forget that she even exists--they be too busy day-dreaming about driving that shinny new Ford pick-up with 24 cylinders, 6 turbos and 9 superchargers to McDonald's for a double-triple oversized/supersized snack with a diet Coke. And then go home and make super-sized bubbles in their super-sized swimming pool.

Peter Seduyka,

so Ossetia is NOT Russia's backyard, while Kosovo *IS* USA's backyard?

(NATO is international, at least on paper, so your parallel was void)

Jesus, i have yet to meet such an hypocrite like you, hidden behind a politically correct mask.

so Ossetia is NOT Russia's backyard, while Kosovo *IS* USA's backyard?

(NATO is international, at least on paper, so your parallel was void)

Jesus, i have yet to meet such an hypocrite like you, hidden behind a politically correct mask.
(pyrros, 7 July 2010 12:06)
Well Peter is the last one who can be accused of being hypocrite and PC if you carefully read all his comments.Indeed drawing parallel between Russian presence in the that region and US in Kosovo rather reflects some naivity.If the russian bear had retreated the turkish rat would have filled the gap.The two oldest christian peoples armenians and georgians for example would have been long time ago killed off by barbaric turks.Of course Russkies are there mainly not to protect those people but too have strong natural border and access to natural resourses as well as a strtegicly important area but the above mentioned side effect cannot be ignored.

szemi,
we have seen *tons* of such naiveness in the last 20 years.

Secretary of state, the lying Hillary (shot at by serb snipers in Bosnia), has some nerve calling other countries occupiers, what the hell is the USA doing in Kosovo? This worn out old politician, riding on her husband's coattails, should be attached to a lie-detector everytime she speaks, otherwise she has zero credibility.

Peter Seduyka,
just to add smth more, when i see a russian and a pole, i dont notice any substantial differences.
Poles and Russians are like Croats and Serbs. same nation, different religion (unfortunately).

Maybe this lady should drink some georgian cognak go to museum dedicated to Stalin in Gori kiss his statue for luck and try to retake those territories from Russkies.After all we have a good example of Superwoman who even managed to avoid the leathel shots of those ugly serb snipers.Come on Hilly you can do it.
(szemi, 6 July 2010 17:11

Stalin's statue was ripped down by Saakshvili few days ago.He plans to replace him with a statue of the victims of his own folly.

Saak is either so deluded or so stupid to believe the US would've come to his aid in his war against Russia in defenceof liberty,democracy and all the usual populist ideological crap the US neocons devised.

Saak take it as man once in your life and admit the war was your own fault.The US,EU & Nato are not going to help you so you'll just have to suck it up and do whatever Mr Putin asks.

The Russian occupation of Georgia will end as soon as the Albanian occupation of Kosovo ends.

Oh Hilary(ious),

Its just not gonna happen! Sadly it was the Americans who gave intel and the greenlight to the Georgians a few years ago, then when everrything backfired their puppet in Tblisi was the scapegoat. It should be a good learning lesson for the Americans not to meddle in too many peoples backyards.