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Friday, 02.07.2010.

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Doctor killed, 11 Serbs hurt in Kosovo blast

An explosive device was thrown among a group of protesting Serbs in northern Kosovska Mitrovica, killing one and wounding 11 people, said reports.

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UK

pre 13 godina

Kosovo goverment will win and this territory wich belongs to Kosovo will very soon be integrated into the sociaty of Kosovo. Of course the serbs living there wich dosen't want anything to do with albanians or the goverment in Prishtina can move to Belgrade.
(Demi, 3 July 2010 02:05)

And I wonder how you might feel if I made a comment along the lines of ...and the Albanians in Kosovo wanting nothing to do with Serbs in Serbia's homeland can always move back to Albania? It cuts both ways my friend!

UK

pre 13 godina

The hand G was aimed at the integration office , but you are right Enis, they forgat to throw it instead they just hurt themselvs. In coming days a lot of things will happened in north, since ICJ opinion is near and Dick Marty's report is completed and due very soon to be published. Both are in favor of Kosova/o. Excpect the unexcpected up north.
(Kosova-USA, 2 July 2010 12:47)

You were there? You can absolutely determine who threw and at what? You are sure beyond any doubt that it was a Serb that threw the grenade into the Serb crowd? It must be so refreshing to be so sure about so many things when others cannot give such precise accounts! Or, alternatively, could it possibly be that you are anti Serb and will look at any story and find some way of blaming the Serbs? Surely not, surely you wouldnt be so biased? I wonder?

smooch

pre 13 godina

Whats with all the Anti_British sentiment among some posters here. I am British and I support The position of Serbia and the vast majority of the Serbian people in regards to Kosovo.
And also, I'd like to add... I think the Irish (Nationalist/Catholic) community in Northern Ireland had to put up with a load of s**t off the British Government and authorities over the years.......
Come on...some of us do have a heart...

Fluid

pre 13 godina

"Obviously protesting against you lot.
Perhaps he was only walking to work, saw his colleagues and decided to walk to work with them.
(Peggy, 3 July 2010 03:38)"
He was what is known as "an innocent bystander". He was not a Serb. He was cleaning the front of his house and was not with the protesters.
With this being a mixed neighborhood, what if the protesters thought he was Albanian and wanted to send a message?
Just a logical observation...
Also, what a cheap way to take advantage of a funeral of a bystander to spread more nationalist rhetoric by the so called "Serb Ministry for Kosovo".

yvonne

pre 13 godina

What ppl on here seem to be missing is that the Government in Pristina is made up of former KLA members who for years commited acts of terrorism similar to this grenade blast. There were countless such attacks in the 1990's in Vushtri, Peja, Gjakove and other main cities. I hate to say it, but you can take the terrorist out of a uniform and stick him in a government suit, but you cannot take the terrorist mentality out of him.

Bob

pre 13 godina

pss - yes; I am against the nationalist ideology who want an Albanian state in Kosovo. Just as I would be against having any other mono-ethnically motivated state in Kosovo. The current solution is wrong.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

How so? What was a Bosniak doing among Serb protesters?
(Bekim, 2 July 2010 16:27)

The question is, who gains more of his death? Certainly not the Albanian side.

pss

pre 13 godina

Bob, 3 July 2010 03:43)
Ironic you start by condemning nationalistic rhetoric and then lead into a tirade of that which you condemn. Just because you give a disclaimer saying it isn't does not mean it isn't.
Part of the nationalistic rhetoric IS accusing the other side of it.

robby

pre 13 godina

Don´t blame the "others".

We all know, it was just a question of time for the next victim.

Guilty are all, who are not able for dialog, who are pushing up the situation, who are forcing institutions, who have forgetten what is suffering,

AND all who are not able to imagine a peaceful world.

Bob

pre 13 godina

I get fed up with nationalist rhetoric. It guarantees loss of friends and is incredibly politically inept.

Many comments in this list are full of blind self-serving nationalism looking for the usual excuses.

This recent incident is a relatively rare show of the deep resentment about Albanian long-term ambition to impose itself on Serb lands. This not nationalist political resentment; it is resentment against thieves who are getting away with their dirty trickery. It is not a surprise that people reject any form of government by people who are stealing their territory and trying to impose the results of a bombed invasion on them. How can that every be acceptable?

Milosevic made a mess of Serbia's reputation in Bosnia, and then allowed that to be exploited by Kosovo's Albanian population. There is no point in repeating his nationalistic mistakes. Despite all the political ineptitude and despite all the demographic changes that have made it look like an Albanian territory Serbia is still the owner of Kosovo - it is guaranteed as part of Serbia's territorial integrity (despite weasel words from western politician). The current land grab (like the others) is grubby even though it is justified by lots of western countries.

The term 'ethnic cleansing' is first attributed to the activities of the Albanian communist party in driving out Serbs from Kosovo.

The west has become criminally implicated in that process by seeking to create a new mono-ethnically motivated Albanian state. What Fools They Are. Albanians learned to speak nicely to the west and got the support they wanted.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

How so? What was a Bosniak doing among Serb protesters?
(Bekim, 2 July 2010 16:27)
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Obviously protesting against you lot.
Perhaps he was only walking to work, saw his colleagues and decided to walk to work with them.

Flamur Kosova

pre 13 godina

First, I am sorry for the lost of life. RIP to the unfortunate doctor who has lost his life.

As for those "I know it all- it must be albanians"
(Mike,Biljana and co) let me rest assure you that had this H.G been thrown to protester by some Albanian, as you so fast pointed it out, believe you me we would've seen 100,000 Serbs from Mitrovica and another 100,000 from Serbia demonstrating in the streets of N.Mitrovica seeking the death of all Albanians. The office (which they protested against)would've been engulfed in flames almost instantly, so would Eulex cars as well as police and other albanians' cars. No NATO & Eulex could've stopped the anger of the "wounded Serbs".

Only few days ago there were calls for Albanians' death and what not, by the same extremist, yet a serb is killed and these people are quite and law abiding citizens?
Come on Mr Mike Sh.Holmes, you know better than that.

I am sure, most of those people or at least the injured ones, knows who throw the H.G but they are keeping it quite because they don't want to embarrass their co-patriots and don't want to be called unpatriotic. Just wait for few days or weeks and those who got injured will tell the whole story, those people are fed up with Serbian Gov lies and promises and soon they will come to their senses that the Serbia's Gov not only lies to them but it started hurting them, like with this H.G incident which went wrong.

Funny how Tadic & Co, within minutes of the incident, they knew that it was a terrorist attack and kept saying over and over again. Just keep saying and saying and if you say it many times then you will believe it. That's Serbia's rhetorics I guess.

Demi

pre 13 godina

It is clearly an act planned in Belgrade. Serbs have protested before and nothing has happend so why did it happend today ?

Poor act by the serbian people and their represeantives in belgrade. The doctor who died was not even a protestor or even a serb. He was a Kosovo Bosnian doctor working in his garden in that moment. Serbs in Mitrovica will pay for this act because they will not succed to hold northern Kosovo in the past.


Kosovo goverment will win and this territory wich belongs to Kosovo will very soon be integrated into the sociaty of Kosovo. Of course the serbs living there wich dosen't want anything to do with albanians or the goverment in Prishtina can move to Belgrade.

Nelli_Canada

pre 13 godina

Looks like the case is solved already, an Albanian eh?.
Whoever threw that explosive device it must be from someone among the protesters.

There is strong reason that Serbia might be behind it since the ideas of partitioning Kosova were thrown in garbage container.

You can't throw hand grenade from south of Iber unless you're olympic champion.

Albert

pre 13 godina

On the other hand, there is enough evidence on youtube alone of how Albanians treated Serbian churches to lead anybody to the conclusion that the likelihood that it was an Albanian rather than a Serb against another Serb.
(Peter Sudyka, 2 July 2010 23:34)

There is also a lot of evidence on Youtube to show that Serbs indicriminately, killed, expelled and burned, thousands of homes in Kosovo. But that´s passed as far as I am concerned! Horrible things happened on both sides!

I don´t know who did it, It may be Albanians or it may be Serbs.

But, you sir! Maybe should look for evidence in better places rather than Youtube!

Cheers!

Jason

pre 13 godina

You can't throw hand grenade from south of Iber unless you're olympic champion.
(Nelli_Canada, 3 July 2010 00:04)

Of all the ill-informed posts on here yours is up there with the best... Only a diaspora Albanian would not know that this is a mixed neighborhood and that the only ethnically pure part of Mitrovica is in the south. Do some research next time, eh?

Condolences to the victims and may the perpetrator(s) be brought to justice, regardless of ethnicity.

Peter Sudyka

pre 13 godina

johny

Sorry, but why would a Serb throw a grenade at his/her own people?

On the other hand, there is enough evidence on youtube alone of how Albanians treated Serbian churches to lead anybody to the conclusion that the likelihood that it was an Albanian rather than a Serb against another Serb.

Srboslav

pre 13 godina

Wake up Srboslav, the Irish are even less your friends than we are. They recognised Kosovo as well, many Irish people volunteered to help the Croats in the war and Gotovina is suspected of selling weapons to the IRA.

I'm so sick of Serbs here supporting everything anti-British just because of what Blair did.
(Sam, UK, 2 July 2010 14:20)

I do consider the Irish as our friends, they have first hand experience of what it means to be oppressed by a stronger country, they also know first hand what it means to have part of its country stolen. The fact that they have spine and doesn't bend over to UK's will and that they are a non Nato member also says something about the Irish people.
The fact that they recognized Kosovo doesn't mean anything to me, I don't trust Irish politicans since they are probably equally corrupt as ALL other politicians but I also doesn't trust ANY politican anywere.
I am full aware of the Irish financial difficulties now and what is "expected" from them by other EU countries, including UK. Just look at the Lisbon referendum, the Irish will wasn't recognized, so they had to vote again until the desired result from EU was acchieved.

That Gotovina sold weapons to IRA? Even if he did, well, who didn't?, maybe Maggie Thatcher...
The international weapons market has no alliances, no friends, the one who has money get what he wants.
I know that serbs that sold weapons to the muslims in Bosnia during the war and to Croatia in Krajina also.
UK and USA sold weapons to Saddam Hussein after he gased the Kurds in Halabja Kurdistan. So if you belive that anyone only sell weapons to allies you are very naive.




"Well, the facts are that the Royalist Ulster Unionists are heavily Pro-Serbian, maybe one of the most radical Pro-Serbs in the West. Moreover, those Unionists claim that Northern Ireland is by International Law British. You see indeed many similarities but in that form you are implying. Maybe, the Pro-Serbian UK-ers here are actually from Belfast? "JohnC

Even if Unionists in Northern Ireland are Pro-Serbian, wich I doubt they are ( I could be wrong here), it doesn't change the fact that Northern Ireland is occupied by UK.
This doesn't mean that I am pro IRA, I am against all kind of violence , but it doesn't justify the fact that Ireland are divided by a bully neighbour country with five times the population and a habit of using violence against other nations.

Bekim

pre 13 godina

Nobody here's even looking at your stinky bait. Try harder.
(Fruskija, 2 July 2010 18:46)

You can bet on that! I mean Serbia got the visa liberalization by threatening Bosnia.

Hawk

pre 13 godina

For all those who say that Prishtina does not have any benefit from this act of terrorism. Prishtina didn't have any benefits form the ethnic cleansig and killing of the Serbs back in March 2004. but it did that anyway. So, unfortunately, this is a pure act of Albanian terrorism motivated by the hatred against Serbs.

Sam, UK

pre 13 godina

In Britain it's probably something like this. 5% support Kosovo's independence, 5% are against, the other 90% don't know about it or don't care.

Anyone can see this is the work of the politicians not the people of countries that recognised Kosovo. Do you Serbs all hate Montenegrans now because of what Djukanovic is doing and are the Montenegran people doing enough to 'correct it'?

Mike

pre 13 godina

"You and your Serb armchair investigators apparently have already solved the case. You're so good at it you do not need proofs and you seem to be much faster than EULEX professional investigators. Bravo Sherlock." (johny)

-- Read my latest post and spare me the angry lectures from your moral highground. Your side seems to know just as much/just as little as I do.

genc

pre 13 godina

It's political terrorism, to stop the political developments, commissioned by those who are against those developments. The perpetrator(s) will remain unknown. It's called "strategy of tension". Italy has experienced it often in the '70s and '80s to freeze political developments there.

Pure and simple.

johny

pre 13 godina

Peter Sudyka, did you by any chance see who threw the grenade and by seeing him/her were able to determine his/her nationality? If not then STFU until we learn who did it. If not I can also claim the Poles did it especially those who side with Serbs and are in Kosova. Everyone can make accusations. Lets wait and see who actually did it. If we were to make accusations everyone can. I can call it a purely Serb act because a Serb did it. You know why? Just because I can. Just like the rest of you armchair investigators.

Mike

pre 13 godina

nikshala,

I started to rethink this after my last comment:

What does Pristina gain from this regardless of who threw the grenade? Nothing. In fact they lose what leverage they might have had.

What does Belgrade gain from this regardless of who threw the grenade? Lots considering they have a credible case for halting Pristina's latest attempt at Lebensraum.

Could it have been perpetrated by a Serb? Considering the north is 95% Serb, it's highly probable. It's like shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater.

Could it have been perpetrated by an Albanian? Considering the office is planned in Bosanki Mahala, the "multiethnic neighborhood", it's likely but the repercussions could spark a riot against them. Still, the stupid lone crusader factor can't be ruled out. Or the "Fire!" factor too.

Could I see Pristina behind this? Yes. The push to exert authority in the north is incredibly stupid and risks major social unrest.

Could I see Belgrade behind this? No. They gain nothing from targeting their own people, let alone leaving a paper trail back to them.

So I retract some of my words from the previous post. We probably won't find out who threw it. EULEX wants that kept under wraps.

BUT, the damage has been done. Serbs will blame Albanians; Albanians will blame Serbs, and the population will be radicalized against any further attempts by Pristina exerting its authority where it doesn't belong and is clearly not welcome.

johny

pre 13 godina

Mike I see you applying the do as I say not as I do motto. Bravo. You and your Serb armchair investigators apparently have already solved the case. You're so good at it you do not need proofs and you seem to be much faster than EULEX professional investigators. Bravo Sherlock. Next time spare us your morality especially since all your post reeks of hypocrisy. You know saying Albanians accuse Serbs but at the same time you accuse them of committing a crime that hasn't been investigated by anyone. You sure seem to be a psychic bunch. Psychic armchair detectives.

RIP to the person the died in futility.

johny

pre 13 godina

Highduke when am I gonna get to read that book of yours. I've been waiting for 5 years already. 3 years ago it was viruses attacking your computer then spyware the worms. You're not keeping your word man.

ben

pre 13 godina

Cool down people. Let’s wait what the investigation will say; it was a shake hand or deliberate action.

Serbs in the north are known for throwing hand grenades.

They killed one UNMIK policemen, attacked courts offices; throw grenades on the border check-point as well as on the Albanians that wanted to rebuild their houses: promptly ignored by the Serbian press and with that now increase the unjustified sense of injustice.

Mark

pre 13 godina

The international community should pay attention. Serbia is the main factor of destability in the Balkans. The only side that gains something from this incident is Serbia. First came Bogdanovic's suggestion that the West will propose Kosovo division,then came the exchange of territories, the west reply for both of them was NO. So the serbs go back to the destabilization card and blame the crime on the Albanians.

Fruskija

pre 13 godina

For months we know Albanians and puppet masters count on violenece in north to somehow cross that bridge. So to calm violence when they cause it, you see. Just one short message. Nobody here's even looking at your stinky bait. Try harder.

highduke

pre 13 godina

The Tamils did this kind of thing to the Sinhalese for 25 YEARS and just last year the Tamil narco-state was dismantled by the Sinhalese and their warlords were killed. When RUS finishes the S. Stream, the Albanian narco-state & warlords will be dismantled too.

Matthew

pre 13 godina

"If anyone in this forum believes that Albanians are happy to hear about this incident, I find this very sad.

My deepest sympathy for the lost live and those injured.
(ximi, 2 July 2010 15:59) "

Thanks ximi for your sympathy.

Sadly, judging from the comments here, it seems many nationalistic Albanians are indeed very happy about this incident.

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

This is ALBANIAN TERRORISM, pure and simple. Just a continuation of their terrorist campaign since the 1960s. I see all of the western-paid albanian propagandists have crawled out of their holes and are given free publicity by B92 here. They seemed to have forgotten that Serbia cannot respond militarily to this deliberate provocation so this plan will backfire in the world (no, not usa) media. Whenever some phoney western diplomat tries to propagate the lie that kosovo is getting better, the Serbs will point to this latest incident. Your udi has failed today.

Biljana

pre 13 godina

Bekim,

So what if he was a Bosniak?
As far as I know Northern Mitrovica is multicultural with many nationalities residing there unlike Southern Mitrovica which appears to be inhabited only by the Albanians.

Presence of this Bosniak, who was working as paediatrician in local Hospital, may only mean that he was supportive to Serbian cause and clearly didn't want to do anything with the Albanian regime and their forcible implementation of the so called K-institutions imposed by the Pristina‘s criminals in Serbian land.
Perhaps this Bosniak wanted to live amongst the Serbs in peace and not with the Albanians.
Again perhaps this Bosniak had more trust in Serbian institutions than in some imaginary K-institutions run by the people of very suspicious profiles.

nikshala

pre 13 godina

Its pretty impressive how quickly Serbia's politicians made their mind up as to who carried out this attack and are using the tragic loss of life to broadcast their political intentions.

Lets look at the motives:

Do albanians gain anything politically from this? NO

Is this going to make serbs in north of Kosovo leave? NO, if anything it increase their resolve.

Does the timing suit Kosovo just before ICJ ruling? NO

Does Kosovo goverment benefit anything by provocing the serbs and giving the impression of instability? NO

Is it possible that some angry albanian venting his frustration by throwing a bomb? YES - but unlikely. There were no clashes preceding this and it seems like this was a quick assembly of people therefore not enough time for someone to plan an attack.

Lets look at the motives from the other sides:

Does serbian goverment benefit from this politically and in terms of propaganda? YES - it enforces their retoric that Kosovo is not functioning as a state and plays to their intentions to partition Kosovo.

Does this benefit the serbs living in the north? YES - it works to their advantage in stating that they are not safe living with albanians and under Kosovan institutions.

Does this suit Serbia before ICJ ruling? YES.

Is there a possibility that this attack was premeditated by serbs and lifes were sacrificed for political gains? YES.

Is it possible that this was an accident, i.e. serbs were carrying granades to throw at this office and one went of by accident? YES, serbs have used granades before (death of ukranian soldier) and will likely do again.

Either way the incident might not be as clear cut as we are led to believe by Tadic & Co.

Albert

pre 13 godina

This is what the Albanian Authorities are saying in regard to this incident!

Rexhepi: The situation in Kosovska Mitrovica under control
Internal Affairs Minister, Bajram Rexhepi, informed Cabinet that the situation in Mitrovica is under the control of law enforcement. ...
Posted: 03:06:13 / 07.02.2010
He said preliminary investigation concludes that the blast which occurred in north Mitrovica is a result of the negligence of Serb extremists. According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, 11 people were injured as a result of the incident.
For the opening of the Office of the government in the north has also spoken Prime Minister Hashim Thaci. In his decision to open this office is in full compliance with the commitments of the government in that part in order to establish order and law.
The head of the executive has asked once again call the north Serbian citizens not to fall prey to the call of Belgrade, but to become part of the Kosovo institutions.

Mike

pre 13 godina

It's really unfortunate that Pristina needs to resort to terrorism (again) in order to exert its claims to authority in an area it wants but doesn't control.

It's also unfortunate, but not unexpected, to see the vast majority of comments from the Albanian keyboard generals (with the notable exception of nikshala) blaming the mess on, once again, "dirty Milosheviq propaganda". We even get a few new posters basically repeating what we'd get anyway from the usual suspects. Nice to know scapegoating is endemic.

Even if Serbs committed the attack - and one has to wonder why it would target a group PROTESTING something coming from Pristina, but then I’ve given up understanding the rationality of diaspora Albanian nationalism - do you REALLY want this incorporated into the Happiest Place on Earth?

Congratulations guys, you've just radicalized the population.

louiscyphre

pre 13 godina

It is impressive to see that "some" have solved the case already: Albanians, of course, in the middle of a Serbian rally in Northern Mitrovica... Most likely...

Judge, Jury, Executioner...

"Deputies have spoken about whether dead men would approve of it, and they have spoken whether children yet unborn would approve it, but few have spoken of whether the living approve it." - Michael Collins, Dáil debate, Christmas 1921.

Peter Sudyka

pre 13 godina

The international community really needs to do a better job in protecting the Serbs in Northern Kosovo. Already the Albanians started violent attacks on Serbs in 2004, now they are doing it again in 2010 to them.

Who are they to think that they can do whatever they like, wherever they like? Kosovo is still recognized as part of Serbia and this pseudo-government comprised of former terrorists appear to think otherwise.

Whatever NATO must do, it must not arm the KPS, otherwise God alone knows what they will start doing to the Serbs of the North.

Bekim

pre 13 godina

In the end I would like to express my condolences to the family of the paediatrician who lost the life
while he was on duty helping others.
(Biljana, 2 July 2010 16:06)

How so? What was a Bosniak doing among Serb protesters?

Arti

pre 13 godina

This is a clean job of Serbian Ministry of internal affairs!!! In actual circumstances, when Serbia declared its pro position for dividing Kosova in ethic bases, this terrorist act against civilians goes only in its favor, in order to enforce the necessity of partition of Kosova's territory in next negotiations!

lids

pre 13 godina

This is how thaci sees serbs incorporation in Kosovo.!
It just proves agian and again,terrorist government of prishtina cannot survive with acts that kills anyone that does not agree with their criminal ways..

Biljana

pre 13 godina

Arton Pristina said

“This death is a direct result of the call of the Serbian Government to the Kosovar serbs to boycot the Kosovar institutions”

First of all Serbs would have boycotted Kosovo institutions even without any call from Belgrade.
Secondly, Serbs are not doing anything that Albanians didn’t do in the past by boycotting Serbian institutions.
Serbs just don’t want to do anything with the Albanians and their so called institutions exactely the same way Albanians didn't want to do with the Serbian ones.
By accepting integration into Kosovo illegal institutions the Serbs would legitimize an illegal act of separatism which has happened in one part of their own country.
In simple way can be said that Kosovo Serbs do not want and should not accept anything Albanian because Serbs have their own country and its institutions, and most importantly strong cultural identity which appears not be the case with the Albanians since even they don’t know who they are any more.
As for this incident triggered by the opening of some funny office in Northern Kosovska Mitrovica was nothing else but provocative attempt of northern Mitrovica’s usurpation. If Albanians need some documents issued by the so-called K-state then they should go for it in Sothern part of Mitrovica. Kosovo Serbs, anyway, don’t use any documentation issued by the Kosovo institutions, they use documentation issued only by the official institutions of the Republic of Serbia which further means that Serbs do not need this kind of office.
Therefore, Kosovo Serbs have all possible rights to oppose this cheap attempt by all means.
Believe it or not, they have huge support from everyone of us.

Unfortunately, the statement of our president Tadic was the most shameful statement ever given by some official. I am truly ashamed of him.

@Sam UK

You can be sick of Serbs as much as you like. In principle we don't mind becuase we kind of used to it.
Of course we are anti-British because British are anti-Serbian in general.
It was not only Blair. He is not any more in office but anti-Serbian policy is still very alive in Britain. Or, pardon me, I would not say entire Britain, but I’ll focus on England.

Still, we are not anti-British when it comes to its population, meaning that we are not against the average British folk .Why in the earth I would wish you personally any evil? Just for being a Brit? No, that is not the case. But I do not have any positive opinion when it comes to British foreign policy. You see the difference now?

In the end I would like to express my condolences to the family of the paediatrician who lost the life
while he was on duty helping others.

pss

pre 13 godina

The only solution is for the Serb military to enter Kosovo once again. The sooner the better.
(pyrros, 2 July 2010 12:44)
Do you actually see that as a possibility?

ximi

pre 13 godina

Acts of violence should be condemned no matter who the actors are. However, let’s not jump to conclusion and say this was done by Albanians. The fact is that now one knows who operates in Northern Mitrovica, clearly there is chaos there and this is a recipe for disaster.
Now is a big test for KS and EULEX Police to show what they are made of and find the perpetrators and give them what they deserve.

If anyone in this forum believes that Albanians are happy to hear about this incident, I find this very sad.

My deepest sympathy for the lost live and those injured.

Ratko

pre 13 godina

Like I said cowardly provocations from these fanatic intolerant albanians will never stop. This is what happens when part of your country is under imperialist occupation. Thanks america for occupying Kosmet and creating chaos. Disgrace!

Noble Myth

pre 13 godina

I'm so sick of Serbs here supporting everything anti-British just because of what Blair did.
(Sam, UK, 2 July 2010 14:20

And what about after Blair, Sam? What are the British doing to correct that "what Blair did"? Did you read any of the recent Ambassador Wadsworth's statements on your self-righteous country's position on Kosovo? Did you read ANY of the statements on Russia's position on Kosovo?

I hope this takes care of your "sickness"

Niall O'Doherty

pre 13 godina

Wake up Srboslav, the Irish are even less your friends than we are. They recognised Kosovo as well, many Irish people volunteered to help the Croats in the war and Gotovina is suspected of selling weapons to the IRA.

I'm so sick of Serbs here supporting everything anti-British just because of what Blair did.
(Sam, UK, 2 July 2010 14:20)

Thats utter nonsense. Just because the Irish government recognised Pristina's UDD doesnt mean that ordinary people support it. In fact anyone who I have spoken too about the issue have been quite supportive of Belgrade.

Very few irish foiught for the Croats in the war. There are about 4 documented cases and 2 of them were Italian born fascists (one guy called himself Tony Cascarino) the others were neo-Nazis.

True some dissidents did buy arms from Croatia but that was it.

Arton, Prishtina

pre 13 godina

It is sad that a life was lost without any need today and that makes me very very sad. This death is a direct result of the call of the Serbian Government to the Kosovar serbs to boycot the Kosovar institutions. It is unknown apparently who pulled the trigger of the device that exploded and hence it will be impossible to get an answer on this at this stage. This attack is aimed against the Kosovar state and democracy and has resulted in the loss of a valuable life of a Kosovar. Shame on Tadic and Jeremic and all of those who have lost their mind and call people in the 21st century to hate each other.

passing by

pre 13 godina

Some of the Serb idiots forgot the rutine pull and throw
(Enis, 2 July 2010 11:07)
It sounds like you (and Kos-US)are quite experienced of doing this.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 13 godina

Well, the facts are that the Royalist Ulster Unionists are heavily Pro-Serbian, maybe one of the most radical Pro-Serbs in the West. Moreover, those Unionists claim that Northern Ireland is by International Law British. You see indeed many similarities but in that form you are implying. Maybe, the Pro-Serbian UK-ers here are actually from Belfast?

However, my point is that kind of incidents will continue occur. Underground civil war between 2 parties. This will lead to nowhere and hampers development of all parties in that region.
(JohnC., 2 July 2010 13:44)

Yes but you have to remember with the Ulster Protestants is that they are the most loyal subjects to the British Imperialist murder machine. Should Britain go to war in the Balkans again, the Ulster Loyalists will dutifully sign up to the organ grinder and be used as canon fodder to prove once again their unreserved loyaly to Her Majesty.

doodah

pre 13 godina

Does anyone here not believe that if there was the slightest hint that this was the responsibility of Albanians, the title from B92 would have said "Albanian terrorist explosion resorts in hundreds of Serbs injured and numerous deaths"

Sam, UK

pre 13 godina

Wake up Srboslav, the Irish are even less your friends than we are. They recognised Kosovo as well, many Irish people volunteered to help the Croats in the war and Gotovina is suspected of selling weapons to the IRA.

I'm so sick of Serbs here supporting everything anti-British just because of what Blair did.

David Crowley

pre 13 godina

The comments from the Albanian contributors here so far do not exactly inspire confidence that the rule of law either internationally or domestically will be upheld.

I hope that those injured will recover.

SiriusBlack

pre 13 godina

It is really sad to see how Serbian goverment is prepared to go thus far - I mean organise throwing an expolisve device among protesters so they can "shout wolf" afterwards, without a single moral concern that (Serbian) people of Kosovo which they claim are trying to protect, might be injured or even worse die.

They have done this sort of thing before (in Kosovo) so not much changes there.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Get the facts right if you are going to compare. This is how it is:

Northern Ireland = stolen and occupied from Republic of Ireland by UK

Kosovo = Stolen and occupied from Serbia by the albanians.
(Srboslav, 2 July 2010 13:00)

Well, the facts are that the Royalist Ulster Unionists are heavily Pro-Serbian, maybe one of the most radical Pro-Serbs in the West. Moreover, those Unionists claim that Northern Ireland is by International Law British. You see indeed many similarities but in that form you are implying. Maybe, the Pro-Serbian UK-ers here are actually from Belfast?

However, my point is that kind of incidents will continue occur. Underground civil war between 2 parties. This will lead to nowhere and hampers development of all parties in that region.

Srboslav

pre 13 godina

Northern Kosovo = Northern Ireland
(JohnC., 2 July 2010 11:49)

Get the facts right if you are going to compare. This is how it is:

Northern Ireland = stolen and occupied from Republic of Ireland by UK

Kosovo = Stolen and occupied from Serbia by the albanians.

Dragan

pre 13 godina

The K-Albs should be ashamed of their non-tolerant and deviant behaviour, rather than take pride in the death of a doctor and injury of innocent people.

TITO

pre 13 godina

Albanians everywhere should be ashamed of their behaviour. This is just another provocation, probing how far they can go.
I would just like to remind you my dear friends that no matter what you do we shall persevere and wait for our "15min"...
There is no candle that burns forever.

nikshala

pre 13 godina

Is it possible that this was some sick attempt by serbs radicals to destabilize the situation before the ICJ ruling? Yes.

It is possible that some albanian threw a granade? Yes.

Is it possible that serbs where carrying granades to throw at this office that was supposed to get opened, and one of them went off by accident? Yes very likely.

Everyone should wait for investigations to be carried out before the accusations start flying each way.

Me again

pre 13 godina

Some people on that neighborhood might need those documents. And I don't see any reason from doctors leaving their patients in hospital and go and protest, for something that is very civillian. Also in other parts of Kosovo, there are place for Serb minority where they can get Serbian documents. It seems that those criminal groups have had just to early pulled out the trigger. Those criminal groups are capable of everything.

huh?

pre 13 godina

The "freedom loving" peaceful K-albs expressing their tolerance of anything non-alb again. What can you say? On their first steps away from a closed tribal society to a modern democrasy, western masters kept them back, legitimazed trafficking organ theft and prostitution and so they went on. Eventually as their masters fades away, the albanian society must face reality, what a hang-over!

Vasojevici UK

pre 13 godina

Once again Serbs who are non violently fighting to protect there culture and identity are attacked again by coward less thugs!

And team Albanian Serbs don't stage massacres and attacks thats Bosniaks

Link

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/Camera.html

and hears some reading team Albania about your staged "massacres"

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Kosovo/hoax/Racak/Tiker/RacakFile.html

GOD BLESS SERBIA, SERBS AND VASOJEVICI

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

Some of the Serb idiots forgot the rutine pull and throw
(Enis, 2 July 2010 11:07)

The hand G was aimed at the integration office , but you are right Enis, they forgat to throw it instead they just hurt themselvs. In coming days a lot of things will happened in north, since ICJ opinion is near and Dick Marty's report is completed and due very soon to be published. Both are in favor of Kosova/o. Excpect the unexcpected up north.

Otto

pre 13 godina

this is so obvious work of serbian person who was against of openning of office in the north.
Everywhere is Kosova and with this crimes agains your own people you can't poke the eye of the world.

Diana

pre 13 godina

What a ridiculous comment Enis. It appears that if the Albanians can't get their way they threaten and kill. It is much more likely that this was done by Albanians to try and get their way and also to cause a reaction from the Serbs before any ICJ ruling- good excuse to postpone the ruling if everything is in choas and going against pristina. Eulex obviously can't control the rule of law and protect minorities or else they don't want to. Either way it's another example of their lies about peace, integration- laughable. What a mess the USA and their lapdogs have made in Kosovo.

Artan S

pre 13 godina

It sounds like a planned attacked from the Serb side went wrong, it went off at before they were able to through it over to the target.

Here begins the era of 'N.Ireland' style attacks. The key problem with the north it's not mitrovica it's self but the source of it all is the north border where criminals come & go as they please.

Anyways overall this is a start of integretaion in every sense, if bombs have to go off, well so be it as people are getting restless in the south and are ready to take over by any means.

PRN

pre 13 godina

"Several hurt in northern K. Mitrovica blast"

Serbs are a pain everywhere. From them expect anything...NO SURPRISES from the SERBS...they are beyond imagination for cruality.

Diana

pre 13 godina

What a ridiculous comment Enis. It appears that if the Albanians can't get their way they threaten and kill. It is much more likely that this was done by Albanians to try and get their way and also to cause a reaction from the Serbs before any ICJ ruling- good excuse to postpone the ruling if everything is in choas and going against pristina. Eulex obviously can't control the rule of law and protect minorities or else they don't want to. Either way it's another example of their lies about peace, integration- laughable. What a mess the USA and their lapdogs have made in Kosovo.

David Crowley

pre 13 godina

The comments from the Albanian contributors here so far do not exactly inspire confidence that the rule of law either internationally or domestically will be upheld.

I hope that those injured will recover.

Artan S

pre 13 godina

It sounds like a planned attacked from the Serb side went wrong, it went off at before they were able to through it over to the target.

Here begins the era of 'N.Ireland' style attacks. The key problem with the north it's not mitrovica it's self but the source of it all is the north border where criminals come & go as they please.

Anyways overall this is a start of integretaion in every sense, if bombs have to go off, well so be it as people are getting restless in the south and are ready to take over by any means.

Vasojevici UK

pre 13 godina

Once again Serbs who are non violently fighting to protect there culture and identity are attacked again by coward less thugs!

And team Albanian Serbs don't stage massacres and attacks thats Bosniaks

Link

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/Camera.html

and hears some reading team Albania about your staged "massacres"

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Kosovo/hoax/Racak/Tiker/RacakFile.html

GOD BLESS SERBIA, SERBS AND VASOJEVICI

huh?

pre 13 godina

The "freedom loving" peaceful K-albs expressing their tolerance of anything non-alb again. What can you say? On their first steps away from a closed tribal society to a modern democrasy, western masters kept them back, legitimazed trafficking organ theft and prostitution and so they went on. Eventually as their masters fades away, the albanian society must face reality, what a hang-over!

TITO

pre 13 godina

Albanians everywhere should be ashamed of their behaviour. This is just another provocation, probing how far they can go.
I would just like to remind you my dear friends that no matter what you do we shall persevere and wait for our "15min"...
There is no candle that burns forever.

PRN

pre 13 godina

"Several hurt in northern K. Mitrovica blast"

Serbs are a pain everywhere. From them expect anything...NO SURPRISES from the SERBS...they are beyond imagination for cruality.

Srboslav

pre 13 godina

Northern Kosovo = Northern Ireland
(JohnC., 2 July 2010 11:49)

Get the facts right if you are going to compare. This is how it is:

Northern Ireland = stolen and occupied from Republic of Ireland by UK

Kosovo = Stolen and occupied from Serbia by the albanians.

nikshala

pre 13 godina

Is it possible that this was some sick attempt by serbs radicals to destabilize the situation before the ICJ ruling? Yes.

It is possible that some albanian threw a granade? Yes.

Is it possible that serbs where carrying granades to throw at this office that was supposed to get opened, and one of them went off by accident? Yes very likely.

Everyone should wait for investigations to be carried out before the accusations start flying each way.

passing by

pre 13 godina

Some of the Serb idiots forgot the rutine pull and throw
(Enis, 2 July 2010 11:07)
It sounds like you (and Kos-US)are quite experienced of doing this.

Hawk

pre 13 godina

For all those who say that Prishtina does not have any benefit from this act of terrorism. Prishtina didn't have any benefits form the ethnic cleansig and killing of the Serbs back in March 2004. but it did that anyway. So, unfortunately, this is a pure act of Albanian terrorism motivated by the hatred against Serbs.

Dragan

pre 13 godina

The K-Albs should be ashamed of their non-tolerant and deviant behaviour, rather than take pride in the death of a doctor and injury of innocent people.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

Some of the Serb idiots forgot the rutine pull and throw
(Enis, 2 July 2010 11:07)

The hand G was aimed at the integration office , but you are right Enis, they forgat to throw it instead they just hurt themselvs. In coming days a lot of things will happened in north, since ICJ opinion is near and Dick Marty's report is completed and due very soon to be published. Both are in favor of Kosova/o. Excpect the unexcpected up north.

Mark

pre 13 godina

The international community should pay attention. Serbia is the main factor of destability in the Balkans. The only side that gains something from this incident is Serbia. First came Bogdanovic's suggestion that the West will propose Kosovo division,then came the exchange of territories, the west reply for both of them was NO. So the serbs go back to the destabilization card and blame the crime on the Albanians.

nikshala

pre 13 godina

Its pretty impressive how quickly Serbia's politicians made their mind up as to who carried out this attack and are using the tragic loss of life to broadcast their political intentions.

Lets look at the motives:

Do albanians gain anything politically from this? NO

Is this going to make serbs in north of Kosovo leave? NO, if anything it increase their resolve.

Does the timing suit Kosovo just before ICJ ruling? NO

Does Kosovo goverment benefit anything by provocing the serbs and giving the impression of instability? NO

Is it possible that some angry albanian venting his frustration by throwing a bomb? YES - but unlikely. There were no clashes preceding this and it seems like this was a quick assembly of people therefore not enough time for someone to plan an attack.

Lets look at the motives from the other sides:

Does serbian goverment benefit from this politically and in terms of propaganda? YES - it enforces their retoric that Kosovo is not functioning as a state and plays to their intentions to partition Kosovo.

Does this benefit the serbs living in the north? YES - it works to their advantage in stating that they are not safe living with albanians and under Kosovan institutions.

Does this suit Serbia before ICJ ruling? YES.

Is there a possibility that this attack was premeditated by serbs and lifes were sacrificed for political gains? YES.

Is it possible that this was an accident, i.e. serbs were carrying granades to throw at this office and one went of by accident? YES, serbs have used granades before (death of ukranian soldier) and will likely do again.

Either way the incident might not be as clear cut as we are led to believe by Tadic & Co.

Sam, UK

pre 13 godina

Wake up Srboslav, the Irish are even less your friends than we are. They recognised Kosovo as well, many Irish people volunteered to help the Croats in the war and Gotovina is suspected of selling weapons to the IRA.

I'm so sick of Serbs here supporting everything anti-British just because of what Blair did.

lids

pre 13 godina

This is how thaci sees serbs incorporation in Kosovo.!
It just proves agian and again,terrorist government of prishtina cannot survive with acts that kills anyone that does not agree with their criminal ways..

Ratko

pre 13 godina

Like I said cowardly provocations from these fanatic intolerant albanians will never stop. This is what happens when part of your country is under imperialist occupation. Thanks america for occupying Kosmet and creating chaos. Disgrace!

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

This is ALBANIAN TERRORISM, pure and simple. Just a continuation of their terrorist campaign since the 1960s. I see all of the western-paid albanian propagandists have crawled out of their holes and are given free publicity by B92 here. They seemed to have forgotten that Serbia cannot respond militarily to this deliberate provocation so this plan will backfire in the world (no, not usa) media. Whenever some phoney western diplomat tries to propagate the lie that kosovo is getting better, the Serbs will point to this latest incident. Your udi has failed today.

Mike

pre 13 godina

It's really unfortunate that Pristina needs to resort to terrorism (again) in order to exert its claims to authority in an area it wants but doesn't control.

It's also unfortunate, but not unexpected, to see the vast majority of comments from the Albanian keyboard generals (with the notable exception of nikshala) blaming the mess on, once again, "dirty Milosheviq propaganda". We even get a few new posters basically repeating what we'd get anyway from the usual suspects. Nice to know scapegoating is endemic.

Even if Serbs committed the attack - and one has to wonder why it would target a group PROTESTING something coming from Pristina, but then I’ve given up understanding the rationality of diaspora Albanian nationalism - do you REALLY want this incorporated into the Happiest Place on Earth?

Congratulations guys, you've just radicalized the population.

ximi

pre 13 godina

Acts of violence should be condemned no matter who the actors are. However, let’s not jump to conclusion and say this was done by Albanians. The fact is that now one knows who operates in Northern Mitrovica, clearly there is chaos there and this is a recipe for disaster.
Now is a big test for KS and EULEX Police to show what they are made of and find the perpetrators and give them what they deserve.

If anyone in this forum believes that Albanians are happy to hear about this incident, I find this very sad.

My deepest sympathy for the lost live and those injured.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 13 godina

Well, the facts are that the Royalist Ulster Unionists are heavily Pro-Serbian, maybe one of the most radical Pro-Serbs in the West. Moreover, those Unionists claim that Northern Ireland is by International Law British. You see indeed many similarities but in that form you are implying. Maybe, the Pro-Serbian UK-ers here are actually from Belfast?

However, my point is that kind of incidents will continue occur. Underground civil war between 2 parties. This will lead to nowhere and hampers development of all parties in that region.
(JohnC., 2 July 2010 13:44)

Yes but you have to remember with the Ulster Protestants is that they are the most loyal subjects to the British Imperialist murder machine. Should Britain go to war in the Balkans again, the Ulster Loyalists will dutifully sign up to the organ grinder and be used as canon fodder to prove once again their unreserved loyaly to Her Majesty.

Biljana

pre 13 godina

Arton Pristina said

“This death is a direct result of the call of the Serbian Government to the Kosovar serbs to boycot the Kosovar institutions”

First of all Serbs would have boycotted Kosovo institutions even without any call from Belgrade.
Secondly, Serbs are not doing anything that Albanians didn’t do in the past by boycotting Serbian institutions.
Serbs just don’t want to do anything with the Albanians and their so called institutions exactely the same way Albanians didn't want to do with the Serbian ones.
By accepting integration into Kosovo illegal institutions the Serbs would legitimize an illegal act of separatism which has happened in one part of their own country.
In simple way can be said that Kosovo Serbs do not want and should not accept anything Albanian because Serbs have their own country and its institutions, and most importantly strong cultural identity which appears not be the case with the Albanians since even they don’t know who they are any more.
As for this incident triggered by the opening of some funny office in Northern Kosovska Mitrovica was nothing else but provocative attempt of northern Mitrovica’s usurpation. If Albanians need some documents issued by the so-called K-state then they should go for it in Sothern part of Mitrovica. Kosovo Serbs, anyway, don’t use any documentation issued by the Kosovo institutions, they use documentation issued only by the official institutions of the Republic of Serbia which further means that Serbs do not need this kind of office.
Therefore, Kosovo Serbs have all possible rights to oppose this cheap attempt by all means.
Believe it or not, they have huge support from everyone of us.

Unfortunately, the statement of our president Tadic was the most shameful statement ever given by some official. I am truly ashamed of him.

@Sam UK

You can be sick of Serbs as much as you like. In principle we don't mind becuase we kind of used to it.
Of course we are anti-British because British are anti-Serbian in general.
It was not only Blair. He is not any more in office but anti-Serbian policy is still very alive in Britain. Or, pardon me, I would not say entire Britain, but I’ll focus on England.

Still, we are not anti-British when it comes to its population, meaning that we are not against the average British folk .Why in the earth I would wish you personally any evil? Just for being a Brit? No, that is not the case. But I do not have any positive opinion when it comes to British foreign policy. You see the difference now?

In the end I would like to express my condolences to the family of the paediatrician who lost the life
while he was on duty helping others.

Arti

pre 13 godina

This is a clean job of Serbian Ministry of internal affairs!!! In actual circumstances, when Serbia declared its pro position for dividing Kosova in ethic bases, this terrorist act against civilians goes only in its favor, in order to enforce the necessity of partition of Kosova's territory in next negotiations!

Biljana

pre 13 godina

Bekim,

So what if he was a Bosniak?
As far as I know Northern Mitrovica is multicultural with many nationalities residing there unlike Southern Mitrovica which appears to be inhabited only by the Albanians.

Presence of this Bosniak, who was working as paediatrician in local Hospital, may only mean that he was supportive to Serbian cause and clearly didn't want to do anything with the Albanian regime and their forcible implementation of the so called K-institutions imposed by the Pristina‘s criminals in Serbian land.
Perhaps this Bosniak wanted to live amongst the Serbs in peace and not with the Albanians.
Again perhaps this Bosniak had more trust in Serbian institutions than in some imaginary K-institutions run by the people of very suspicious profiles.

SiriusBlack

pre 13 godina

It is really sad to see how Serbian goverment is prepared to go thus far - I mean organise throwing an expolisve device among protesters so they can "shout wolf" afterwards, without a single moral concern that (Serbian) people of Kosovo which they claim are trying to protect, might be injured or even worse die.

They have done this sort of thing before (in Kosovo) so not much changes there.

Arton, Prishtina

pre 13 godina

It is sad that a life was lost without any need today and that makes me very very sad. This death is a direct result of the call of the Serbian Government to the Kosovar serbs to boycot the Kosovar institutions. It is unknown apparently who pulled the trigger of the device that exploded and hence it will be impossible to get an answer on this at this stage. This attack is aimed against the Kosovar state and democracy and has resulted in the loss of a valuable life of a Kosovar. Shame on Tadic and Jeremic and all of those who have lost their mind and call people in the 21st century to hate each other.

pss

pre 13 godina

The only solution is for the Serb military to enter Kosovo once again. The sooner the better.
(pyrros, 2 July 2010 12:44)
Do you actually see that as a possibility?

Jason

pre 13 godina

You can't throw hand grenade from south of Iber unless you're olympic champion.
(Nelli_Canada, 3 July 2010 00:04)

Of all the ill-informed posts on here yours is up there with the best... Only a diaspora Albanian would not know that this is a mixed neighborhood and that the only ethnically pure part of Mitrovica is in the south. Do some research next time, eh?

Condolences to the victims and may the perpetrator(s) be brought to justice, regardless of ethnicity.

doodah

pre 13 godina

Does anyone here not believe that if there was the slightest hint that this was the responsibility of Albanians, the title from B92 would have said "Albanian terrorist explosion resorts in hundreds of Serbs injured and numerous deaths"

Matthew

pre 13 godina

"If anyone in this forum believes that Albanians are happy to hear about this incident, I find this very sad.

My deepest sympathy for the lost live and those injured.
(ximi, 2 July 2010 15:59) "

Thanks ximi for your sympathy.

Sadly, judging from the comments here, it seems many nationalistic Albanians are indeed very happy about this incident.

Albert

pre 13 godina

On the other hand, there is enough evidence on youtube alone of how Albanians treated Serbian churches to lead anybody to the conclusion that the likelihood that it was an Albanian rather than a Serb against another Serb.
(Peter Sudyka, 2 July 2010 23:34)

There is also a lot of evidence on Youtube to show that Serbs indicriminately, killed, expelled and burned, thousands of homes in Kosovo. But that´s passed as far as I am concerned! Horrible things happened on both sides!

I don´t know who did it, It may be Albanians or it may be Serbs.

But, you sir! Maybe should look for evidence in better places rather than Youtube!

Cheers!

Noble Myth

pre 13 godina

I'm so sick of Serbs here supporting everything anti-British just because of what Blair did.
(Sam, UK, 2 July 2010 14:20

And what about after Blair, Sam? What are the British doing to correct that "what Blair did"? Did you read any of the recent Ambassador Wadsworth's statements on your self-righteous country's position on Kosovo? Did you read ANY of the statements on Russia's position on Kosovo?

I hope this takes care of your "sickness"

Mike

pre 13 godina

"You and your Serb armchair investigators apparently have already solved the case. You're so good at it you do not need proofs and you seem to be much faster than EULEX professional investigators. Bravo Sherlock." (johny)

-- Read my latest post and spare me the angry lectures from your moral highground. Your side seems to know just as much/just as little as I do.

Otto

pre 13 godina

this is so obvious work of serbian person who was against of openning of office in the north.
Everywhere is Kosova and with this crimes agains your own people you can't poke the eye of the world.

Fruskija

pre 13 godina

For months we know Albanians and puppet masters count on violenece in north to somehow cross that bridge. So to calm violence when they cause it, you see. Just one short message. Nobody here's even looking at your stinky bait. Try harder.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 13 godina

Wake up Srboslav, the Irish are even less your friends than we are. They recognised Kosovo as well, many Irish people volunteered to help the Croats in the war and Gotovina is suspected of selling weapons to the IRA.

I'm so sick of Serbs here supporting everything anti-British just because of what Blair did.
(Sam, UK, 2 July 2010 14:20)

Thats utter nonsense. Just because the Irish government recognised Pristina's UDD doesnt mean that ordinary people support it. In fact anyone who I have spoken too about the issue have been quite supportive of Belgrade.

Very few irish foiught for the Croats in the war. There are about 4 documented cases and 2 of them were Italian born fascists (one guy called himself Tony Cascarino) the others were neo-Nazis.

True some dissidents did buy arms from Croatia but that was it.

Peter Sudyka

pre 13 godina

The international community really needs to do a better job in protecting the Serbs in Northern Kosovo. Already the Albanians started violent attacks on Serbs in 2004, now they are doing it again in 2010 to them.

Who are they to think that they can do whatever they like, wherever they like? Kosovo is still recognized as part of Serbia and this pseudo-government comprised of former terrorists appear to think otherwise.

Whatever NATO must do, it must not arm the KPS, otherwise God alone knows what they will start doing to the Serbs of the North.

Mike

pre 13 godina

nikshala,

I started to rethink this after my last comment:

What does Pristina gain from this regardless of who threw the grenade? Nothing. In fact they lose what leverage they might have had.

What does Belgrade gain from this regardless of who threw the grenade? Lots considering they have a credible case for halting Pristina's latest attempt at Lebensraum.

Could it have been perpetrated by a Serb? Considering the north is 95% Serb, it's highly probable. It's like shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater.

Could it have been perpetrated by an Albanian? Considering the office is planned in Bosanki Mahala, the "multiethnic neighborhood", it's likely but the repercussions could spark a riot against them. Still, the stupid lone crusader factor can't be ruled out. Or the "Fire!" factor too.

Could I see Pristina behind this? Yes. The push to exert authority in the north is incredibly stupid and risks major social unrest.

Could I see Belgrade behind this? No. They gain nothing from targeting their own people, let alone leaving a paper trail back to them.

So I retract some of my words from the previous post. We probably won't find out who threw it. EULEX wants that kept under wraps.

BUT, the damage has been done. Serbs will blame Albanians; Albanians will blame Serbs, and the population will be radicalized against any further attempts by Pristina exerting its authority where it doesn't belong and is clearly not welcome.

Sam, UK

pre 13 godina

In Britain it's probably something like this. 5% support Kosovo's independence, 5% are against, the other 90% don't know about it or don't care.

Anyone can see this is the work of the politicians not the people of countries that recognised Kosovo. Do you Serbs all hate Montenegrans now because of what Djukanovic is doing and are the Montenegran people doing enough to 'correct it'?

johny

pre 13 godina

Peter Sudyka, did you by any chance see who threw the grenade and by seeing him/her were able to determine his/her nationality? If not then STFU until we learn who did it. If not I can also claim the Poles did it especially those who side with Serbs and are in Kosova. Everyone can make accusations. Lets wait and see who actually did it. If we were to make accusations everyone can. I can call it a purely Serb act because a Serb did it. You know why? Just because I can. Just like the rest of you armchair investigators.

Me again

pre 13 godina

Some people on that neighborhood might need those documents. And I don't see any reason from doctors leaving their patients in hospital and go and protest, for something that is very civillian. Also in other parts of Kosovo, there are place for Serb minority where they can get Serbian documents. It seems that those criminal groups have had just to early pulled out the trigger. Those criminal groups are capable of everything.

ben

pre 13 godina

Cool down people. Let’s wait what the investigation will say; it was a shake hand or deliberate action.

Serbs in the north are known for throwing hand grenades.

They killed one UNMIK policemen, attacked courts offices; throw grenades on the border check-point as well as on the Albanians that wanted to rebuild their houses: promptly ignored by the Serbian press and with that now increase the unjustified sense of injustice.

Peter Sudyka

pre 13 godina

johny

Sorry, but why would a Serb throw a grenade at his/her own people?

On the other hand, there is enough evidence on youtube alone of how Albanians treated Serbian churches to lead anybody to the conclusion that the likelihood that it was an Albanian rather than a Serb against another Serb.

Bekim

pre 13 godina

Nobody here's even looking at your stinky bait. Try harder.
(Fruskija, 2 July 2010 18:46)

You can bet on that! I mean Serbia got the visa liberalization by threatening Bosnia.

Bekim

pre 13 godina

In the end I would like to express my condolences to the family of the paediatrician who lost the life
while he was on duty helping others.
(Biljana, 2 July 2010 16:06)

How so? What was a Bosniak doing among Serb protesters?

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Get the facts right if you are going to compare. This is how it is:

Northern Ireland = stolen and occupied from Republic of Ireland by UK

Kosovo = Stolen and occupied from Serbia by the albanians.
(Srboslav, 2 July 2010 13:00)

Well, the facts are that the Royalist Ulster Unionists are heavily Pro-Serbian, maybe one of the most radical Pro-Serbs in the West. Moreover, those Unionists claim that Northern Ireland is by International Law British. You see indeed many similarities but in that form you are implying. Maybe, the Pro-Serbian UK-ers here are actually from Belfast?

However, my point is that kind of incidents will continue occur. Underground civil war between 2 parties. This will lead to nowhere and hampers development of all parties in that region.

highduke

pre 13 godina

The Tamils did this kind of thing to the Sinhalese for 25 YEARS and just last year the Tamil narco-state was dismantled by the Sinhalese and their warlords were killed. When RUS finishes the S. Stream, the Albanian narco-state & warlords will be dismantled too.

Albert

pre 13 godina

This is what the Albanian Authorities are saying in regard to this incident!

Rexhepi: The situation in Kosovska Mitrovica under control
Internal Affairs Minister, Bajram Rexhepi, informed Cabinet that the situation in Mitrovica is under the control of law enforcement. ...
Posted: 03:06:13 / 07.02.2010
He said preliminary investigation concludes that the blast which occurred in north Mitrovica is a result of the negligence of Serb extremists. According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, 11 people were injured as a result of the incident.
For the opening of the Office of the government in the north has also spoken Prime Minister Hashim Thaci. In his decision to open this office is in full compliance with the commitments of the government in that part in order to establish order and law.
The head of the executive has asked once again call the north Serbian citizens not to fall prey to the call of Belgrade, but to become part of the Kosovo institutions.

johny

pre 13 godina

Mike I see you applying the do as I say not as I do motto. Bravo. You and your Serb armchair investigators apparently have already solved the case. You're so good at it you do not need proofs and you seem to be much faster than EULEX professional investigators. Bravo Sherlock. Next time spare us your morality especially since all your post reeks of hypocrisy. You know saying Albanians accuse Serbs but at the same time you accuse them of committing a crime that hasn't been investigated by anyone. You sure seem to be a psychic bunch. Psychic armchair detectives.

RIP to the person the died in futility.

johny

pre 13 godina

Highduke when am I gonna get to read that book of yours. I've been waiting for 5 years already. 3 years ago it was viruses attacking your computer then spyware the worms. You're not keeping your word man.

Srboslav

pre 13 godina

Wake up Srboslav, the Irish are even less your friends than we are. They recognised Kosovo as well, many Irish people volunteered to help the Croats in the war and Gotovina is suspected of selling weapons to the IRA.

I'm so sick of Serbs here supporting everything anti-British just because of what Blair did.
(Sam, UK, 2 July 2010 14:20)

I do consider the Irish as our friends, they have first hand experience of what it means to be oppressed by a stronger country, they also know first hand what it means to have part of its country stolen. The fact that they have spine and doesn't bend over to UK's will and that they are a non Nato member also says something about the Irish people.
The fact that they recognized Kosovo doesn't mean anything to me, I don't trust Irish politicans since they are probably equally corrupt as ALL other politicians but I also doesn't trust ANY politican anywere.
I am full aware of the Irish financial difficulties now and what is "expected" from them by other EU countries, including UK. Just look at the Lisbon referendum, the Irish will wasn't recognized, so they had to vote again until the desired result from EU was acchieved.

That Gotovina sold weapons to IRA? Even if he did, well, who didn't?, maybe Maggie Thatcher...
The international weapons market has no alliances, no friends, the one who has money get what he wants.
I know that serbs that sold weapons to the muslims in Bosnia during the war and to Croatia in Krajina also.
UK and USA sold weapons to Saddam Hussein after he gased the Kurds in Halabja Kurdistan. So if you belive that anyone only sell weapons to allies you are very naive.




"Well, the facts are that the Royalist Ulster Unionists are heavily Pro-Serbian, maybe one of the most radical Pro-Serbs in the West. Moreover, those Unionists claim that Northern Ireland is by International Law British. You see indeed many similarities but in that form you are implying. Maybe, the Pro-Serbian UK-ers here are actually from Belfast? "JohnC

Even if Unionists in Northern Ireland are Pro-Serbian, wich I doubt they are ( I could be wrong here), it doesn't change the fact that Northern Ireland is occupied by UK.
This doesn't mean that I am pro IRA, I am against all kind of violence , but it doesn't justify the fact that Ireland are divided by a bully neighbour country with five times the population and a habit of using violence against other nations.

Nelli_Canada

pre 13 godina

Looks like the case is solved already, an Albanian eh?.
Whoever threw that explosive device it must be from someone among the protesters.

There is strong reason that Serbia might be behind it since the ideas of partitioning Kosova were thrown in garbage container.

You can't throw hand grenade from south of Iber unless you're olympic champion.

genc

pre 13 godina

It's political terrorism, to stop the political developments, commissioned by those who are against those developments. The perpetrator(s) will remain unknown. It's called "strategy of tension". Italy has experienced it often in the '70s and '80s to freeze political developments there.

Pure and simple.

Flamur Kosova

pre 13 godina

First, I am sorry for the lost of life. RIP to the unfortunate doctor who has lost his life.

As for those "I know it all- it must be albanians"
(Mike,Biljana and co) let me rest assure you that had this H.G been thrown to protester by some Albanian, as you so fast pointed it out, believe you me we would've seen 100,000 Serbs from Mitrovica and another 100,000 from Serbia demonstrating in the streets of N.Mitrovica seeking the death of all Albanians. The office (which they protested against)would've been engulfed in flames almost instantly, so would Eulex cars as well as police and other albanians' cars. No NATO & Eulex could've stopped the anger of the "wounded Serbs".

Only few days ago there were calls for Albanians' death and what not, by the same extremist, yet a serb is killed and these people are quite and law abiding citizens?
Come on Mr Mike Sh.Holmes, you know better than that.

I am sure, most of those people or at least the injured ones, knows who throw the H.G but they are keeping it quite because they don't want to embarrass their co-patriots and don't want to be called unpatriotic. Just wait for few days or weeks and those who got injured will tell the whole story, those people are fed up with Serbian Gov lies and promises and soon they will come to their senses that the Serbia's Gov not only lies to them but it started hurting them, like with this H.G incident which went wrong.

Funny how Tadic & Co, within minutes of the incident, they knew that it was a terrorist attack and kept saying over and over again. Just keep saying and saying and if you say it many times then you will believe it. That's Serbia's rhetorics I guess.

louiscyphre

pre 13 godina

It is impressive to see that "some" have solved the case already: Albanians, of course, in the middle of a Serbian rally in Northern Mitrovica... Most likely...

Judge, Jury, Executioner...

"Deputies have spoken about whether dead men would approve of it, and they have spoken whether children yet unborn would approve it, but few have spoken of whether the living approve it." - Michael Collins, Dáil debate, Christmas 1921.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

How so? What was a Bosniak doing among Serb protesters?
(Bekim, 2 July 2010 16:27)
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Obviously protesting against you lot.
Perhaps he was only walking to work, saw his colleagues and decided to walk to work with them.

Demi

pre 13 godina

It is clearly an act planned in Belgrade. Serbs have protested before and nothing has happend so why did it happend today ?

Poor act by the serbian people and their represeantives in belgrade. The doctor who died was not even a protestor or even a serb. He was a Kosovo Bosnian doctor working in his garden in that moment. Serbs in Mitrovica will pay for this act because they will not succed to hold northern Kosovo in the past.


Kosovo goverment will win and this territory wich belongs to Kosovo will very soon be integrated into the sociaty of Kosovo. Of course the serbs living there wich dosen't want anything to do with albanians or the goverment in Prishtina can move to Belgrade.

Bob

pre 13 godina

I get fed up with nationalist rhetoric. It guarantees loss of friends and is incredibly politically inept.

Many comments in this list are full of blind self-serving nationalism looking for the usual excuses.

This recent incident is a relatively rare show of the deep resentment about Albanian long-term ambition to impose itself on Serb lands. This not nationalist political resentment; it is resentment against thieves who are getting away with their dirty trickery. It is not a surprise that people reject any form of government by people who are stealing their territory and trying to impose the results of a bombed invasion on them. How can that every be acceptable?

Milosevic made a mess of Serbia's reputation in Bosnia, and then allowed that to be exploited by Kosovo's Albanian population. There is no point in repeating his nationalistic mistakes. Despite all the political ineptitude and despite all the demographic changes that have made it look like an Albanian territory Serbia is still the owner of Kosovo - it is guaranteed as part of Serbia's territorial integrity (despite weasel words from western politician). The current land grab (like the others) is grubby even though it is justified by lots of western countries.

The term 'ethnic cleansing' is first attributed to the activities of the Albanian communist party in driving out Serbs from Kosovo.

The west has become criminally implicated in that process by seeking to create a new mono-ethnically motivated Albanian state. What Fools They Are. Albanians learned to speak nicely to the west and got the support they wanted.

UK

pre 13 godina

The hand G was aimed at the integration office , but you are right Enis, they forgat to throw it instead they just hurt themselvs. In coming days a lot of things will happened in north, since ICJ opinion is near and Dick Marty's report is completed and due very soon to be published. Both are in favor of Kosova/o. Excpect the unexcpected up north.
(Kosova-USA, 2 July 2010 12:47)

You were there? You can absolutely determine who threw and at what? You are sure beyond any doubt that it was a Serb that threw the grenade into the Serb crowd? It must be so refreshing to be so sure about so many things when others cannot give such precise accounts! Or, alternatively, could it possibly be that you are anti Serb and will look at any story and find some way of blaming the Serbs? Surely not, surely you wouldnt be so biased? I wonder?

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

How so? What was a Bosniak doing among Serb protesters?
(Bekim, 2 July 2010 16:27)

The question is, who gains more of his death? Certainly not the Albanian side.

smooch

pre 13 godina

Whats with all the Anti_British sentiment among some posters here. I am British and I support The position of Serbia and the vast majority of the Serbian people in regards to Kosovo.
And also, I'd like to add... I think the Irish (Nationalist/Catholic) community in Northern Ireland had to put up with a load of s**t off the British Government and authorities over the years.......
Come on...some of us do have a heart...

yvonne

pre 13 godina

What ppl on here seem to be missing is that the Government in Pristina is made up of former KLA members who for years commited acts of terrorism similar to this grenade blast. There were countless such attacks in the 1990's in Vushtri, Peja, Gjakove and other main cities. I hate to say it, but you can take the terrorist out of a uniform and stick him in a government suit, but you cannot take the terrorist mentality out of him.

pss

pre 13 godina

Bob, 3 July 2010 03:43)
Ironic you start by condemning nationalistic rhetoric and then lead into a tirade of that which you condemn. Just because you give a disclaimer saying it isn't does not mean it isn't.
Part of the nationalistic rhetoric IS accusing the other side of it.

Bob

pre 13 godina

pss - yes; I am against the nationalist ideology who want an Albanian state in Kosovo. Just as I would be against having any other mono-ethnically motivated state in Kosovo. The current solution is wrong.

Fluid

pre 13 godina

"Obviously protesting against you lot.
Perhaps he was only walking to work, saw his colleagues and decided to walk to work with them.
(Peggy, 3 July 2010 03:38)"
He was what is known as "an innocent bystander". He was not a Serb. He was cleaning the front of his house and was not with the protesters.
With this being a mixed neighborhood, what if the protesters thought he was Albanian and wanted to send a message?
Just a logical observation...
Also, what a cheap way to take advantage of a funeral of a bystander to spread more nationalist rhetoric by the so called "Serb Ministry for Kosovo".

UK

pre 13 godina

Kosovo goverment will win and this territory wich belongs to Kosovo will very soon be integrated into the sociaty of Kosovo. Of course the serbs living there wich dosen't want anything to do with albanians or the goverment in Prishtina can move to Belgrade.
(Demi, 3 July 2010 02:05)

And I wonder how you might feel if I made a comment along the lines of ...and the Albanians in Kosovo wanting nothing to do with Serbs in Serbia's homeland can always move back to Albania? It cuts both ways my friend!

robby

pre 13 godina

Don´t blame the "others".

We all know, it was just a question of time for the next victim.

Guilty are all, who are not able for dialog, who are pushing up the situation, who are forcing institutions, who have forgetten what is suffering,

AND all who are not able to imagine a peaceful world.

PRN

pre 13 godina

"Several hurt in northern K. Mitrovica blast"

Serbs are a pain everywhere. From them expect anything...NO SURPRISES from the SERBS...they are beyond imagination for cruality.

Artan S

pre 13 godina

It sounds like a planned attacked from the Serb side went wrong, it went off at before they were able to through it over to the target.

Here begins the era of 'N.Ireland' style attacks. The key problem with the north it's not mitrovica it's self but the source of it all is the north border where criminals come & go as they please.

Anyways overall this is a start of integretaion in every sense, if bombs have to go off, well so be it as people are getting restless in the south and are ready to take over by any means.

Diana

pre 13 godina

What a ridiculous comment Enis. It appears that if the Albanians can't get their way they threaten and kill. It is much more likely that this was done by Albanians to try and get their way and also to cause a reaction from the Serbs before any ICJ ruling- good excuse to postpone the ruling if everything is in choas and going against pristina. Eulex obviously can't control the rule of law and protect minorities or else they don't want to. Either way it's another example of their lies about peace, integration- laughable. What a mess the USA and their lapdogs have made in Kosovo.

SiriusBlack

pre 13 godina

It is really sad to see how Serbian goverment is prepared to go thus far - I mean organise throwing an expolisve device among protesters so they can "shout wolf" afterwards, without a single moral concern that (Serbian) people of Kosovo which they claim are trying to protect, might be injured or even worse die.

They have done this sort of thing before (in Kosovo) so not much changes there.

Arton, Prishtina

pre 13 godina

It is sad that a life was lost without any need today and that makes me very very sad. This death is a direct result of the call of the Serbian Government to the Kosovar serbs to boycot the Kosovar institutions. It is unknown apparently who pulled the trigger of the device that exploded and hence it will be impossible to get an answer on this at this stage. This attack is aimed against the Kosovar state and democracy and has resulted in the loss of a valuable life of a Kosovar. Shame on Tadic and Jeremic and all of those who have lost their mind and call people in the 21st century to hate each other.

Vasojevici UK

pre 13 godina

Once again Serbs who are non violently fighting to protect there culture and identity are attacked again by coward less thugs!

And team Albanian Serbs don't stage massacres and attacks thats Bosniaks

Link

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/Camera.html

and hears some reading team Albania about your staged "massacres"

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Kosovo/hoax/Racak/Tiker/RacakFile.html

GOD BLESS SERBIA, SERBS AND VASOJEVICI

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

Some of the Serb idiots forgot the rutine pull and throw
(Enis, 2 July 2010 11:07)

The hand G was aimed at the integration office , but you are right Enis, they forgat to throw it instead they just hurt themselvs. In coming days a lot of things will happened in north, since ICJ opinion is near and Dick Marty's report is completed and due very soon to be published. Both are in favor of Kosova/o. Excpect the unexcpected up north.

Srboslav

pre 13 godina

Northern Kosovo = Northern Ireland
(JohnC., 2 July 2010 11:49)

Get the facts right if you are going to compare. This is how it is:

Northern Ireland = stolen and occupied from Republic of Ireland by UK

Kosovo = Stolen and occupied from Serbia by the albanians.

TITO

pre 13 godina

Albanians everywhere should be ashamed of their behaviour. This is just another provocation, probing how far they can go.
I would just like to remind you my dear friends that no matter what you do we shall persevere and wait for our "15min"...
There is no candle that burns forever.

huh?

pre 13 godina

The "freedom loving" peaceful K-albs expressing their tolerance of anything non-alb again. What can you say? On their first steps away from a closed tribal society to a modern democrasy, western masters kept them back, legitimazed trafficking organ theft and prostitution and so they went on. Eventually as their masters fades away, the albanian society must face reality, what a hang-over!

Otto

pre 13 godina

this is so obvious work of serbian person who was against of openning of office in the north.
Everywhere is Kosova and with this crimes agains your own people you can't poke the eye of the world.

Sam, UK

pre 13 godina

Wake up Srboslav, the Irish are even less your friends than we are. They recognised Kosovo as well, many Irish people volunteered to help the Croats in the war and Gotovina is suspected of selling weapons to the IRA.

I'm so sick of Serbs here supporting everything anti-British just because of what Blair did.

Arti

pre 13 godina

This is a clean job of Serbian Ministry of internal affairs!!! In actual circumstances, when Serbia declared its pro position for dividing Kosova in ethic bases, this terrorist act against civilians goes only in its favor, in order to enforce the necessity of partition of Kosova's territory in next negotiations!

nikshala

pre 13 godina

Is it possible that this was some sick attempt by serbs radicals to destabilize the situation before the ICJ ruling? Yes.

It is possible that some albanian threw a granade? Yes.

Is it possible that serbs where carrying granades to throw at this office that was supposed to get opened, and one of them went off by accident? Yes very likely.

Everyone should wait for investigations to be carried out before the accusations start flying each way.

Bekim

pre 13 godina

In the end I would like to express my condolences to the family of the paediatrician who lost the life
while he was on duty helping others.
(Biljana, 2 July 2010 16:06)

How so? What was a Bosniak doing among Serb protesters?

Dragan

pre 13 godina

The K-Albs should be ashamed of their non-tolerant and deviant behaviour, rather than take pride in the death of a doctor and injury of innocent people.

Bekim

pre 13 godina

Nobody here's even looking at your stinky bait. Try harder.
(Fruskija, 2 July 2010 18:46)

You can bet on that! I mean Serbia got the visa liberalization by threatening Bosnia.

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

This is ALBANIAN TERRORISM, pure and simple. Just a continuation of their terrorist campaign since the 1960s. I see all of the western-paid albanian propagandists have crawled out of their holes and are given free publicity by B92 here. They seemed to have forgotten that Serbia cannot respond militarily to this deliberate provocation so this plan will backfire in the world (no, not usa) media. Whenever some phoney western diplomat tries to propagate the lie that kosovo is getting better, the Serbs will point to this latest incident. Your udi has failed today.

passing by

pre 13 godina

Some of the Serb idiots forgot the rutine pull and throw
(Enis, 2 July 2010 11:07)
It sounds like you (and Kos-US)are quite experienced of doing this.

highduke

pre 13 godina

The Tamils did this kind of thing to the Sinhalese for 25 YEARS and just last year the Tamil narco-state was dismantled by the Sinhalese and their warlords were killed. When RUS finishes the S. Stream, the Albanian narco-state & warlords will be dismantled too.

Hawk

pre 13 godina

For all those who say that Prishtina does not have any benefit from this act of terrorism. Prishtina didn't have any benefits form the ethnic cleansig and killing of the Serbs back in March 2004. but it did that anyway. So, unfortunately, this is a pure act of Albanian terrorism motivated by the hatred against Serbs.

Ratko

pre 13 godina

Like I said cowardly provocations from these fanatic intolerant albanians will never stop. This is what happens when part of your country is under imperialist occupation. Thanks america for occupying Kosmet and creating chaos. Disgrace!

Nelli_Canada

pre 13 godina

Looks like the case is solved already, an Albanian eh?.
Whoever threw that explosive device it must be from someone among the protesters.

There is strong reason that Serbia might be behind it since the ideas of partitioning Kosova were thrown in garbage container.

You can't throw hand grenade from south of Iber unless you're olympic champion.

Peter Sudyka

pre 13 godina

The international community really needs to do a better job in protecting the Serbs in Northern Kosovo. Already the Albanians started violent attacks on Serbs in 2004, now they are doing it again in 2010 to them.

Who are they to think that they can do whatever they like, wherever they like? Kosovo is still recognized as part of Serbia and this pseudo-government comprised of former terrorists appear to think otherwise.

Whatever NATO must do, it must not arm the KPS, otherwise God alone knows what they will start doing to the Serbs of the North.

David Crowley

pre 13 godina

The comments from the Albanian contributors here so far do not exactly inspire confidence that the rule of law either internationally or domestically will be upheld.

I hope that those injured will recover.

Mark

pre 13 godina

The international community should pay attention. Serbia is the main factor of destability in the Balkans. The only side that gains something from this incident is Serbia. First came Bogdanovic's suggestion that the West will propose Kosovo division,then came the exchange of territories, the west reply for both of them was NO. So the serbs go back to the destabilization card and blame the crime on the Albanians.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 13 godina

Wake up Srboslav, the Irish are even less your friends than we are. They recognised Kosovo as well, many Irish people volunteered to help the Croats in the war and Gotovina is suspected of selling weapons to the IRA.

I'm so sick of Serbs here supporting everything anti-British just because of what Blair did.
(Sam, UK, 2 July 2010 14:20)

Thats utter nonsense. Just because the Irish government recognised Pristina's UDD doesnt mean that ordinary people support it. In fact anyone who I have spoken too about the issue have been quite supportive of Belgrade.

Very few irish foiught for the Croats in the war. There are about 4 documented cases and 2 of them were Italian born fascists (one guy called himself Tony Cascarino) the others were neo-Nazis.

True some dissidents did buy arms from Croatia but that was it.

Fruskija

pre 13 godina

For months we know Albanians and puppet masters count on violenece in north to somehow cross that bridge. So to calm violence when they cause it, you see. Just one short message. Nobody here's even looking at your stinky bait. Try harder.

nikshala

pre 13 godina

Its pretty impressive how quickly Serbia's politicians made their mind up as to who carried out this attack and are using the tragic loss of life to broadcast their political intentions.

Lets look at the motives:

Do albanians gain anything politically from this? NO

Is this going to make serbs in north of Kosovo leave? NO, if anything it increase their resolve.

Does the timing suit Kosovo just before ICJ ruling? NO

Does Kosovo goverment benefit anything by provocing the serbs and giving the impression of instability? NO

Is it possible that some angry albanian venting his frustration by throwing a bomb? YES - but unlikely. There were no clashes preceding this and it seems like this was a quick assembly of people therefore not enough time for someone to plan an attack.

Lets look at the motives from the other sides:

Does serbian goverment benefit from this politically and in terms of propaganda? YES - it enforces their retoric that Kosovo is not functioning as a state and plays to their intentions to partition Kosovo.

Does this benefit the serbs living in the north? YES - it works to their advantage in stating that they are not safe living with albanians and under Kosovan institutions.

Does this suit Serbia before ICJ ruling? YES.

Is there a possibility that this attack was premeditated by serbs and lifes were sacrificed for political gains? YES.

Is it possible that this was an accident, i.e. serbs were carrying granades to throw at this office and one went of by accident? YES, serbs have used granades before (death of ukranian soldier) and will likely do again.

Either way the incident might not be as clear cut as we are led to believe by Tadic & Co.

ben

pre 13 godina

Cool down people. Let’s wait what the investigation will say; it was a shake hand or deliberate action.

Serbs in the north are known for throwing hand grenades.

They killed one UNMIK policemen, attacked courts offices; throw grenades on the border check-point as well as on the Albanians that wanted to rebuild their houses: promptly ignored by the Serbian press and with that now increase the unjustified sense of injustice.

Mike

pre 13 godina

It's really unfortunate that Pristina needs to resort to terrorism (again) in order to exert its claims to authority in an area it wants but doesn't control.

It's also unfortunate, but not unexpected, to see the vast majority of comments from the Albanian keyboard generals (with the notable exception of nikshala) blaming the mess on, once again, "dirty Milosheviq propaganda". We even get a few new posters basically repeating what we'd get anyway from the usual suspects. Nice to know scapegoating is endemic.

Even if Serbs committed the attack - and one has to wonder why it would target a group PROTESTING something coming from Pristina, but then I’ve given up understanding the rationality of diaspora Albanian nationalism - do you REALLY want this incorporated into the Happiest Place on Earth?

Congratulations guys, you've just radicalized the population.

Albert

pre 13 godina

On the other hand, there is enough evidence on youtube alone of how Albanians treated Serbian churches to lead anybody to the conclusion that the likelihood that it was an Albanian rather than a Serb against another Serb.
(Peter Sudyka, 2 July 2010 23:34)

There is also a lot of evidence on Youtube to show that Serbs indicriminately, killed, expelled and burned, thousands of homes in Kosovo. But that´s passed as far as I am concerned! Horrible things happened on both sides!

I don´t know who did it, It may be Albanians or it may be Serbs.

But, you sir! Maybe should look for evidence in better places rather than Youtube!

Cheers!

Biljana

pre 13 godina

Arton Pristina said

“This death is a direct result of the call of the Serbian Government to the Kosovar serbs to boycot the Kosovar institutions”

First of all Serbs would have boycotted Kosovo institutions even without any call from Belgrade.
Secondly, Serbs are not doing anything that Albanians didn’t do in the past by boycotting Serbian institutions.
Serbs just don’t want to do anything with the Albanians and their so called institutions exactely the same way Albanians didn't want to do with the Serbian ones.
By accepting integration into Kosovo illegal institutions the Serbs would legitimize an illegal act of separatism which has happened in one part of their own country.
In simple way can be said that Kosovo Serbs do not want and should not accept anything Albanian because Serbs have their own country and its institutions, and most importantly strong cultural identity which appears not be the case with the Albanians since even they don’t know who they are any more.
As for this incident triggered by the opening of some funny office in Northern Kosovska Mitrovica was nothing else but provocative attempt of northern Mitrovica’s usurpation. If Albanians need some documents issued by the so-called K-state then they should go for it in Sothern part of Mitrovica. Kosovo Serbs, anyway, don’t use any documentation issued by the Kosovo institutions, they use documentation issued only by the official institutions of the Republic of Serbia which further means that Serbs do not need this kind of office.
Therefore, Kosovo Serbs have all possible rights to oppose this cheap attempt by all means.
Believe it or not, they have huge support from everyone of us.

Unfortunately, the statement of our president Tadic was the most shameful statement ever given by some official. I am truly ashamed of him.

@Sam UK

You can be sick of Serbs as much as you like. In principle we don't mind becuase we kind of used to it.
Of course we are anti-British because British are anti-Serbian in general.
It was not only Blair. He is not any more in office but anti-Serbian policy is still very alive in Britain. Or, pardon me, I would not say entire Britain, but I’ll focus on England.

Still, we are not anti-British when it comes to its population, meaning that we are not against the average British folk .Why in the earth I would wish you personally any evil? Just for being a Brit? No, that is not the case. But I do not have any positive opinion when it comes to British foreign policy. You see the difference now?

In the end I would like to express my condolences to the family of the paediatrician who lost the life
while he was on duty helping others.

Albert

pre 13 godina

This is what the Albanian Authorities are saying in regard to this incident!

Rexhepi: The situation in Kosovska Mitrovica under control
Internal Affairs Minister, Bajram Rexhepi, informed Cabinet that the situation in Mitrovica is under the control of law enforcement. ...
Posted: 03:06:13 / 07.02.2010
He said preliminary investigation concludes that the blast which occurred in north Mitrovica is a result of the negligence of Serb extremists. According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, 11 people were injured as a result of the incident.
For the opening of the Office of the government in the north has also spoken Prime Minister Hashim Thaci. In his decision to open this office is in full compliance with the commitments of the government in that part in order to establish order and law.
The head of the executive has asked once again call the north Serbian citizens not to fall prey to the call of Belgrade, but to become part of the Kosovo institutions.

doodah

pre 13 godina

Does anyone here not believe that if there was the slightest hint that this was the responsibility of Albanians, the title from B92 would have said "Albanian terrorist explosion resorts in hundreds of Serbs injured and numerous deaths"

lids

pre 13 godina

This is how thaci sees serbs incorporation in Kosovo.!
It just proves agian and again,terrorist government of prishtina cannot survive with acts that kills anyone that does not agree with their criminal ways..

Biljana

pre 13 godina

Bekim,

So what if he was a Bosniak?
As far as I know Northern Mitrovica is multicultural with many nationalities residing there unlike Southern Mitrovica which appears to be inhabited only by the Albanians.

Presence of this Bosniak, who was working as paediatrician in local Hospital, may only mean that he was supportive to Serbian cause and clearly didn't want to do anything with the Albanian regime and their forcible implementation of the so called K-institutions imposed by the Pristina‘s criminals in Serbian land.
Perhaps this Bosniak wanted to live amongst the Serbs in peace and not with the Albanians.
Again perhaps this Bosniak had more trust in Serbian institutions than in some imaginary K-institutions run by the people of very suspicious profiles.

Peter Sudyka

pre 13 godina

johny

Sorry, but why would a Serb throw a grenade at his/her own people?

On the other hand, there is enough evidence on youtube alone of how Albanians treated Serbian churches to lead anybody to the conclusion that the likelihood that it was an Albanian rather than a Serb against another Serb.

pss

pre 13 godina

The only solution is for the Serb military to enter Kosovo once again. The sooner the better.
(pyrros, 2 July 2010 12:44)
Do you actually see that as a possibility?

Niall O'Doherty

pre 13 godina

Well, the facts are that the Royalist Ulster Unionists are heavily Pro-Serbian, maybe one of the most radical Pro-Serbs in the West. Moreover, those Unionists claim that Northern Ireland is by International Law British. You see indeed many similarities but in that form you are implying. Maybe, the Pro-Serbian UK-ers here are actually from Belfast?

However, my point is that kind of incidents will continue occur. Underground civil war between 2 parties. This will lead to nowhere and hampers development of all parties in that region.
(JohnC., 2 July 2010 13:44)

Yes but you have to remember with the Ulster Protestants is that they are the most loyal subjects to the British Imperialist murder machine. Should Britain go to war in the Balkans again, the Ulster Loyalists will dutifully sign up to the organ grinder and be used as canon fodder to prove once again their unreserved loyaly to Her Majesty.

johny

pre 13 godina

Peter Sudyka, did you by any chance see who threw the grenade and by seeing him/her were able to determine his/her nationality? If not then STFU until we learn who did it. If not I can also claim the Poles did it especially those who side with Serbs and are in Kosova. Everyone can make accusations. Lets wait and see who actually did it. If we were to make accusations everyone can. I can call it a purely Serb act because a Serb did it. You know why? Just because I can. Just like the rest of you armchair investigators.

louiscyphre

pre 13 godina

It is impressive to see that "some" have solved the case already: Albanians, of course, in the middle of a Serbian rally in Northern Mitrovica... Most likely...

Judge, Jury, Executioner...

"Deputies have spoken about whether dead men would approve of it, and they have spoken whether children yet unborn would approve it, but few have spoken of whether the living approve it." - Michael Collins, Dáil debate, Christmas 1921.

johny

pre 13 godina

Mike I see you applying the do as I say not as I do motto. Bravo. You and your Serb armchair investigators apparently have already solved the case. You're so good at it you do not need proofs and you seem to be much faster than EULEX professional investigators. Bravo Sherlock. Next time spare us your morality especially since all your post reeks of hypocrisy. You know saying Albanians accuse Serbs but at the same time you accuse them of committing a crime that hasn't been investigated by anyone. You sure seem to be a psychic bunch. Psychic armchair detectives.

RIP to the person the died in futility.

johny

pre 13 godina

Highduke when am I gonna get to read that book of yours. I've been waiting for 5 years already. 3 years ago it was viruses attacking your computer then spyware the worms. You're not keeping your word man.

Matthew

pre 13 godina

"If anyone in this forum believes that Albanians are happy to hear about this incident, I find this very sad.

My deepest sympathy for the lost live and those injured.
(ximi, 2 July 2010 15:59) "

Thanks ximi for your sympathy.

Sadly, judging from the comments here, it seems many nationalistic Albanians are indeed very happy about this incident.

Mike

pre 13 godina

nikshala,

I started to rethink this after my last comment:

What does Pristina gain from this regardless of who threw the grenade? Nothing. In fact they lose what leverage they might have had.

What does Belgrade gain from this regardless of who threw the grenade? Lots considering they have a credible case for halting Pristina's latest attempt at Lebensraum.

Could it have been perpetrated by a Serb? Considering the north is 95% Serb, it's highly probable. It's like shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater.

Could it have been perpetrated by an Albanian? Considering the office is planned in Bosanki Mahala, the "multiethnic neighborhood", it's likely but the repercussions could spark a riot against them. Still, the stupid lone crusader factor can't be ruled out. Or the "Fire!" factor too.

Could I see Pristina behind this? Yes. The push to exert authority in the north is incredibly stupid and risks major social unrest.

Could I see Belgrade behind this? No. They gain nothing from targeting their own people, let alone leaving a paper trail back to them.

So I retract some of my words from the previous post. We probably won't find out who threw it. EULEX wants that kept under wraps.

BUT, the damage has been done. Serbs will blame Albanians; Albanians will blame Serbs, and the population will be radicalized against any further attempts by Pristina exerting its authority where it doesn't belong and is clearly not welcome.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"You and your Serb armchair investigators apparently have already solved the case. You're so good at it you do not need proofs and you seem to be much faster than EULEX professional investigators. Bravo Sherlock." (johny)

-- Read my latest post and spare me the angry lectures from your moral highground. Your side seems to know just as much/just as little as I do.

Jason

pre 13 godina

You can't throw hand grenade from south of Iber unless you're olympic champion.
(Nelli_Canada, 3 July 2010 00:04)

Of all the ill-informed posts on here yours is up there with the best... Only a diaspora Albanian would not know that this is a mixed neighborhood and that the only ethnically pure part of Mitrovica is in the south. Do some research next time, eh?

Condolences to the victims and may the perpetrator(s) be brought to justice, regardless of ethnicity.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Get the facts right if you are going to compare. This is how it is:

Northern Ireland = stolen and occupied from Republic of Ireland by UK

Kosovo = Stolen and occupied from Serbia by the albanians.
(Srboslav, 2 July 2010 13:00)

Well, the facts are that the Royalist Ulster Unionists are heavily Pro-Serbian, maybe one of the most radical Pro-Serbs in the West. Moreover, those Unionists claim that Northern Ireland is by International Law British. You see indeed many similarities but in that form you are implying. Maybe, the Pro-Serbian UK-ers here are actually from Belfast?

However, my point is that kind of incidents will continue occur. Underground civil war between 2 parties. This will lead to nowhere and hampers development of all parties in that region.

Srboslav

pre 13 godina

Wake up Srboslav, the Irish are even less your friends than we are. They recognised Kosovo as well, many Irish people volunteered to help the Croats in the war and Gotovina is suspected of selling weapons to the IRA.

I'm so sick of Serbs here supporting everything anti-British just because of what Blair did.
(Sam, UK, 2 July 2010 14:20)

I do consider the Irish as our friends, they have first hand experience of what it means to be oppressed by a stronger country, they also know first hand what it means to have part of its country stolen. The fact that they have spine and doesn't bend over to UK's will and that they are a non Nato member also says something about the Irish people.
The fact that they recognized Kosovo doesn't mean anything to me, I don't trust Irish politicans since they are probably equally corrupt as ALL other politicians but I also doesn't trust ANY politican anywere.
I am full aware of the Irish financial difficulties now and what is "expected" from them by other EU countries, including UK. Just look at the Lisbon referendum, the Irish will wasn't recognized, so they had to vote again until the desired result from EU was acchieved.

That Gotovina sold weapons to IRA? Even if he did, well, who didn't?, maybe Maggie Thatcher...
The international weapons market has no alliances, no friends, the one who has money get what he wants.
I know that serbs that sold weapons to the muslims in Bosnia during the war and to Croatia in Krajina also.
UK and USA sold weapons to Saddam Hussein after he gased the Kurds in Halabja Kurdistan. So if you belive that anyone only sell weapons to allies you are very naive.




"Well, the facts are that the Royalist Ulster Unionists are heavily Pro-Serbian, maybe one of the most radical Pro-Serbs in the West. Moreover, those Unionists claim that Northern Ireland is by International Law British. You see indeed many similarities but in that form you are implying. Maybe, the Pro-Serbian UK-ers here are actually from Belfast? "JohnC

Even if Unionists in Northern Ireland are Pro-Serbian, wich I doubt they are ( I could be wrong here), it doesn't change the fact that Northern Ireland is occupied by UK.
This doesn't mean that I am pro IRA, I am against all kind of violence , but it doesn't justify the fact that Ireland are divided by a bully neighbour country with five times the population and a habit of using violence against other nations.

Me again

pre 13 godina

Some people on that neighborhood might need those documents. And I don't see any reason from doctors leaving their patients in hospital and go and protest, for something that is very civillian. Also in other parts of Kosovo, there are place for Serb minority where they can get Serbian documents. It seems that those criminal groups have had just to early pulled out the trigger. Those criminal groups are capable of everything.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

How so? What was a Bosniak doing among Serb protesters?
(Bekim, 2 July 2010 16:27)

The question is, who gains more of his death? Certainly not the Albanian side.

Sam, UK

pre 13 godina

In Britain it's probably something like this. 5% support Kosovo's independence, 5% are against, the other 90% don't know about it or don't care.

Anyone can see this is the work of the politicians not the people of countries that recognised Kosovo. Do you Serbs all hate Montenegrans now because of what Djukanovic is doing and are the Montenegran people doing enough to 'correct it'?

Bob

pre 13 godina

I get fed up with nationalist rhetoric. It guarantees loss of friends and is incredibly politically inept.

Many comments in this list are full of blind self-serving nationalism looking for the usual excuses.

This recent incident is a relatively rare show of the deep resentment about Albanian long-term ambition to impose itself on Serb lands. This not nationalist political resentment; it is resentment against thieves who are getting away with their dirty trickery. It is not a surprise that people reject any form of government by people who are stealing their territory and trying to impose the results of a bombed invasion on them. How can that every be acceptable?

Milosevic made a mess of Serbia's reputation in Bosnia, and then allowed that to be exploited by Kosovo's Albanian population. There is no point in repeating his nationalistic mistakes. Despite all the political ineptitude and despite all the demographic changes that have made it look like an Albanian territory Serbia is still the owner of Kosovo - it is guaranteed as part of Serbia's territorial integrity (despite weasel words from western politician). The current land grab (like the others) is grubby even though it is justified by lots of western countries.

The term 'ethnic cleansing' is first attributed to the activities of the Albanian communist party in driving out Serbs from Kosovo.

The west has become criminally implicated in that process by seeking to create a new mono-ethnically motivated Albanian state. What Fools They Are. Albanians learned to speak nicely to the west and got the support they wanted.

Demi

pre 13 godina

It is clearly an act planned in Belgrade. Serbs have protested before and nothing has happend so why did it happend today ?

Poor act by the serbian people and their represeantives in belgrade. The doctor who died was not even a protestor or even a serb. He was a Kosovo Bosnian doctor working in his garden in that moment. Serbs in Mitrovica will pay for this act because they will not succed to hold northern Kosovo in the past.


Kosovo goverment will win and this territory wich belongs to Kosovo will very soon be integrated into the sociaty of Kosovo. Of course the serbs living there wich dosen't want anything to do with albanians or the goverment in Prishtina can move to Belgrade.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

How so? What was a Bosniak doing among Serb protesters?
(Bekim, 2 July 2010 16:27)
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Obviously protesting against you lot.
Perhaps he was only walking to work, saw his colleagues and decided to walk to work with them.

Noble Myth

pre 13 godina

I'm so sick of Serbs here supporting everything anti-British just because of what Blair did.
(Sam, UK, 2 July 2010 14:20

And what about after Blair, Sam? What are the British doing to correct that "what Blair did"? Did you read any of the recent Ambassador Wadsworth's statements on your self-righteous country's position on Kosovo? Did you read ANY of the statements on Russia's position on Kosovo?

I hope this takes care of your "sickness"

Flamur Kosova

pre 13 godina

First, I am sorry for the lost of life. RIP to the unfortunate doctor who has lost his life.

As for those "I know it all- it must be albanians"
(Mike,Biljana and co) let me rest assure you that had this H.G been thrown to protester by some Albanian, as you so fast pointed it out, believe you me we would've seen 100,000 Serbs from Mitrovica and another 100,000 from Serbia demonstrating in the streets of N.Mitrovica seeking the death of all Albanians. The office (which they protested against)would've been engulfed in flames almost instantly, so would Eulex cars as well as police and other albanians' cars. No NATO & Eulex could've stopped the anger of the "wounded Serbs".

Only few days ago there were calls for Albanians' death and what not, by the same extremist, yet a serb is killed and these people are quite and law abiding citizens?
Come on Mr Mike Sh.Holmes, you know better than that.

I am sure, most of those people or at least the injured ones, knows who throw the H.G but they are keeping it quite because they don't want to embarrass their co-patriots and don't want to be called unpatriotic. Just wait for few days or weeks and those who got injured will tell the whole story, those people are fed up with Serbian Gov lies and promises and soon they will come to their senses that the Serbia's Gov not only lies to them but it started hurting them, like with this H.G incident which went wrong.

Funny how Tadic & Co, within minutes of the incident, they knew that it was a terrorist attack and kept saying over and over again. Just keep saying and saying and if you say it many times then you will believe it. That's Serbia's rhetorics I guess.

genc

pre 13 godina

It's political terrorism, to stop the political developments, commissioned by those who are against those developments. The perpetrator(s) will remain unknown. It's called "strategy of tension". Italy has experienced it often in the '70s and '80s to freeze political developments there.

Pure and simple.

Fluid

pre 13 godina

"Obviously protesting against you lot.
Perhaps he was only walking to work, saw his colleagues and decided to walk to work with them.
(Peggy, 3 July 2010 03:38)"
He was what is known as "an innocent bystander". He was not a Serb. He was cleaning the front of his house and was not with the protesters.
With this being a mixed neighborhood, what if the protesters thought he was Albanian and wanted to send a message?
Just a logical observation...
Also, what a cheap way to take advantage of a funeral of a bystander to spread more nationalist rhetoric by the so called "Serb Ministry for Kosovo".

ximi

pre 13 godina

Acts of violence should be condemned no matter who the actors are. However, let’s not jump to conclusion and say this was done by Albanians. The fact is that now one knows who operates in Northern Mitrovica, clearly there is chaos there and this is a recipe for disaster.
Now is a big test for KS and EULEX Police to show what they are made of and find the perpetrators and give them what they deserve.

If anyone in this forum believes that Albanians are happy to hear about this incident, I find this very sad.

My deepest sympathy for the lost live and those injured.

pss

pre 13 godina

Bob, 3 July 2010 03:43)
Ironic you start by condemning nationalistic rhetoric and then lead into a tirade of that which you condemn. Just because you give a disclaimer saying it isn't does not mean it isn't.
Part of the nationalistic rhetoric IS accusing the other side of it.

robby

pre 13 godina

Don´t blame the "others".

We all know, it was just a question of time for the next victim.

Guilty are all, who are not able for dialog, who are pushing up the situation, who are forcing institutions, who have forgetten what is suffering,

AND all who are not able to imagine a peaceful world.

Bob

pre 13 godina

pss - yes; I am against the nationalist ideology who want an Albanian state in Kosovo. Just as I would be against having any other mono-ethnically motivated state in Kosovo. The current solution is wrong.

yvonne

pre 13 godina

What ppl on here seem to be missing is that the Government in Pristina is made up of former KLA members who for years commited acts of terrorism similar to this grenade blast. There were countless such attacks in the 1990's in Vushtri, Peja, Gjakove and other main cities. I hate to say it, but you can take the terrorist out of a uniform and stick him in a government suit, but you cannot take the terrorist mentality out of him.

smooch

pre 13 godina

Whats with all the Anti_British sentiment among some posters here. I am British and I support The position of Serbia and the vast majority of the Serbian people in regards to Kosovo.
And also, I'd like to add... I think the Irish (Nationalist/Catholic) community in Northern Ireland had to put up with a load of s**t off the British Government and authorities over the years.......
Come on...some of us do have a heart...

UK

pre 13 godina

The hand G was aimed at the integration office , but you are right Enis, they forgat to throw it instead they just hurt themselvs. In coming days a lot of things will happened in north, since ICJ opinion is near and Dick Marty's report is completed and due very soon to be published. Both are in favor of Kosova/o. Excpect the unexcpected up north.
(Kosova-USA, 2 July 2010 12:47)

You were there? You can absolutely determine who threw and at what? You are sure beyond any doubt that it was a Serb that threw the grenade into the Serb crowd? It must be so refreshing to be so sure about so many things when others cannot give such precise accounts! Or, alternatively, could it possibly be that you are anti Serb and will look at any story and find some way of blaming the Serbs? Surely not, surely you wouldnt be so biased? I wonder?

UK

pre 13 godina

Kosovo goverment will win and this territory wich belongs to Kosovo will very soon be integrated into the sociaty of Kosovo. Of course the serbs living there wich dosen't want anything to do with albanians or the goverment in Prishtina can move to Belgrade.
(Demi, 3 July 2010 02:05)

And I wonder how you might feel if I made a comment along the lines of ...and the Albanians in Kosovo wanting nothing to do with Serbs in Serbia's homeland can always move back to Albania? It cuts both ways my friend!