FM: Serbia wants Kosovo compromise

Jeremic wants many dreams of many things but serb people know the truth and want to move on living side by side as two neighbours with Kosovo and Serbia.

Just read this:

"Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić stated in an interview for Austrian state radio that Serbia is in favor of a compromise solution regarding Kosovo."

So first, say that you want compromise. That sounds good for the appeasement ears in the West. And now read that:

“As far as Kosovo is concerned, Serbia will not change its policy by one iota,” Jeremić said. "

Haha, we want compromise but we don't change our stance, even a little bit. This is masterpiece of "Serbian compromise". Unfortunately, for Vuk and the rest who perpetuates this dream is that noone is going to push that, not even those who claim to be on Serbia's side.

This made my day.

@ northampton - Polish people are not living on the streets in Britain - what nonsense. And there are 1 million not 2 million.

Strangely enough, even though they have only arrived within recent years, many of them speak a very reasonable level of English. And there's you supposedly 'born and bred' in the UK 30 odd years ago and you never learned.

Enough said (but please try and use some punctuation).

Surely you wouldn't be in the UK yourself if British people were as intolerant as you are suggesting? Is it a case of get in and then close the doors?

Poland is in the EU and Polish people have a right to come here to the UK. Many of them work very hard and contribute to the economy.

Of course British people are fed up because they perceive immigrants to be getting something they are not. This view is stoked by the press and is similar in other European countries.

The Albanian criminal networks are causing far more problems for Britain than the Polish, and tarnishing the name of good Albanians living in Britain.

Now please stop speaking in the name of my country, the UK, which you clearly know nothing about. Last week you were referring to the British govt as the English govt, which no-one genuinely living in the UK would do.

northampton says..." as we keep the serbs out of EU the security and the economy will get better,better and better."

To northampton.... As I tell my sons, "If you are ignorant...don't be arrogant!"

northampton

You talk about how many countries are pro-independence of Kosovo, do you know that it makes no difference whatsoever, since there are five EU members (one of them quite significant - Spain) who are against it? This means that no matter which way you slice it, Kosovo will never make it into the EU, no matter how fantastic the economy becomes, if an EU nation does not recognize them, how can they approve of their accession? That would be like inviting Santa Claus to your birthday party.

Also, Serbia's SAA is unblocked and they are a part of the White Schengen. The same does not hold true for Turkey, Bosnia & Herzegovina (except for native Serbs and Croats, who have citizenship of their respective homelands), Albania and Kosovo.

Quite a coincidence, isn't it? You think the Netherlands, Germany, Belgium and other EU states who really have the money will be keen to allow in muslim states like the latter, considering their vast muslim immigrant population and the problems they cause? Look how much influence Geert Wilders has gained in the last Dutch elections. Or BNP in Britain.

Nationalism is growing in Europe, and the EU with its current liberal, multicultural and politically correct approach are losing appeal in the mainstream of the native populations of the EU.

Why? People taxpayers have had enough of stuffing asylum seekers, immigrants and others bellies full with their tax money, while their general lifestyle deteriorates. So essentially, for the EU to have better security and economy, they should stop all accession (except for maybe Iceland, Norway and Switzerland), and even kick out Bulgaria and Romania, because of the vast corruption problem and lack of real progress towards economic integration.

Also, Albania and Kosovo are no exceptions. The EU would be suicidal to let in these dirt-poor nations with the highest proportion per capita of Interpol criminals in Europe. Or do you think they will stop Serbia from coming in, but let Albania and Kosovo? You are deluded.

BTW Your English is truly shocking. Try a dictionary, Mr British-born citizen. I am not born in an English-speaking nation, nor did I start really learning it in high school, yet my English is better than yours.

Sounds like a fine deal to me!
(Srboslav, 22 June 2010 11:50)

Right, to you! What about the other part?

After all, it's only the land that interests you. As far as you are concenrned the people could get Martian passports and fly to Mars, right?

“Serbia had an extraordinary report on its progress…” said Mr Jeremic.

What a cynical statement!!! You talk about Serbia’s progress while the same time your president Mr Tadic forbade the Serbian prosecution to open or even launch an investigation on the newly discovered mass grave containing some 250-300 bodies of Kosovar Albanians in Serbia. Mr Tadic even put pressure during his last visit to Skopje on his Macedonian counterpart not to take up investigations on another mass grave of Kosovar Albanians killed by Serbs forces and buried in Macedonia. Extraordinary progress indeed Mr Jeremic!!!

northampton

First of all, the term "dirt-poor" does not reflect on the level of cleanliness of a country. Even the dumbest high school dropout in the UK would know this.

Secondly, there are not over 2 million Poles in the UK, there never were this many. 700,000 is more like it.

Anyway, the number of Polish immigrants into the UK has "plummeted":

http://www.thenews.pl/international/artykul132481_migration-from-poland-to-uk-plummets.html

And many have or are now returning to Poland (as per the British media):

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/4742214/UK-Poles-return-home.html

Yes, there have been examples of some Poles going there out of desperation and living in dire conditions, but this is not reflective in any way of the majority of Polish immigrants there.

Sure, the British are fed up with immigrants from anywhere, but they especially dislike Poles because Poles actually go there to work, and as a result, they undercut the native British workers and bring a rise to prices of rent. Whilst the British are bothered with this, I highly doubt that it compares with the feeling towards some of the activities that the Albanian mobsters and members of street gangs do.

Maybe Abu Dhabi and Dubai are more fancy than our Warsaw or Gdansk, but I assure you that Warsaw and Gdansk compare most favourably with any city in Albania, that you can be 1000% sure of.

Naturally also, you will consider muslims "more privilege" (whatever that means) than Poles, since most Albanians belong to this faith, but tell me, when was the last time you saw Poles doing this:

http://media.nowpublic.net/images//21/f/21f4bbd0aa9922116ce6a8dc66107ec3.jpg

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060206/060206_wp_london_protest_hmed9p.hmedium.jpg

http://ironicsurrealism.blogivists.com/files/2009/04/muslim-protesters-soldiers-homecoming-parade-luton-march-2009-2.jpg

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/08/muslim220806_600x400.jpg

Charming, isn't it? I am sure the English truly feel privileged to be in the company of such fine immigrants as these.

BTW. With your last rant, I doubt you will be doing your claim of being British-born any justice. I bet even the worst of the Polish immigrants can write in better English than you.

hazel

Sure, sure. An Albanian, whose country is outside the EU for obvious reasons, is claiming that the EU should not let any Slavic nations in. Well, you can be sure of one thing, with the exception of Bulgaria, all Slavic EU members are economically light years ahead of Albania and far more deservingly in the EU than Albania will be in the next 20 years at least.

Poland is now the 6th largest economy of the EU (having overtook the Netherlands), and at the rate it's going, will break the $1-trillion GDP mark, and is set to possibly even overtake Spain economically in the not so distant future.

We are the only EU country to have recorded any economic growth.

Slovenia and Czech Republic have living standards, public services and economical stability like Albania can only dream of. Both bost GDP PPP per capita 4 TIMES more than Albania. Hell, even Poland and Slovakia have 3 TIMES higher than Albania, non-EU member Croatia also does.

So tell me, who are you, an Albanian, whose country is economically not dissimilar from many African, Latin American and South/South-East Asian nations, is in any position to refuse EU for any Slavic nation when all Slavic nations are in a better state economically than Albania (save for maybe the Ukraine)?

Read it and weep:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

I say EU for all Slavic nations (if they want it, not that I am a supporter of the EU in anyway) before Albania, since after the economic disaster in Greece, God alone only knows what EU membership of Albania bodes.

Romania and Bulgaria were HUGE mistakes, as admitted by many EU politicians, so what makes you think even poorer, more corrupt and more organized crime drenched Albania will offer?

MR JEREMIC in case you dont know,22 out of 27 eu members are pro kosovo udi.serbias EU MEMBERSHIP is a dream that wont came true.the veto from austri,holland,germany,belgium are on their way.as long as we keep the serbs out of EU the security and the economy will get better,better and better.NO EU FOR CRIMINELS AND BEGGARS

so it must be something else,” Jeremić was quoted as saying.



I am dying to know what that something else is,Mr Wolf?

I am more then surprised that some Albanian didn't complain about it before!

Thanks.
(Jelena, UK, 22 June 2010)

Why would we complain? If anyone is stupid enough to think that a couple of people are representative of a whole nation may God save their souls.

90% of the posts here are about grammar mistakes when we should be talking about the "compromise" Mr. Jeremic is promising and negating at the same time.

I hope my grammar was satisfacotry enough for the Oxford, Cambridge and Krakow educated here.

...not by one iota.

we will watch you, my friend!

Now please stop speaking in the name of my country, the UK, which you clearly know nothing about. Last week you were referring to the British govt as the English govt, which no-one genuinely living in the UK would do.
(kate, 22 June 2010 15:12)

Nobody genuinely living in the UK would take a Pro-Serbian stance, unless he/she would be one or somehow related to another one.

Yes, always funny to hear about the "compromises" from both sides. For Kosovo Albanians, partition is "not an option" and "Kosovo's borders cannot be changed".

For Serbs, "Kosovo is Serbia" and "Serbia's borders cannot be changed"

A partition will come, eventually. It's the only viable solution for a region full of ethnical hate. A "multiethnic Kosovo" might be a nice wish, idea and project, but it is an illusion.

Both sides don't want it, everyone can see it: Serbs don't want to participate in Kosovo institutions and prefer to do their own things. Kosovo Albanians do everything to drive away more Serbs and block any returnees by shooting and throwing stones at them, and KPS is not willing or able to stop it.

hazel

I nearly spat coffee on my screen when I saw your last reply to kate, I laughed so much. For future reference, "bread" is what people eat, "bred" is the past tense of "breed", which I think has more relevance to someone's nationality than the bread that you eat does. Are you also "born and bread" in the UK?

Its born and bred (as in past tense of breed).

What Jeremic means is that he wants albanians to compromise - he said Serbia's policy wont change by one iota. Too hypocritical even for him. His jokes are always funny :)

Sure we can compromize, Kosovo gets to stay in Serbia (as it is now, stated in resolution 1244) and Albanians can choose to have Albanian, Marsian or Kosovan passports? Sounds like a fine deal to me!

Too late now, you should have tried earlier. Done deal. Keep Dreaming!

Hazel and Northampton,

Great to see more examples of your commentary here on B92.

Keep up the great work - you are doing your causes a great disservice....

JohnC

I fail to see what reason the British would have to be anti-Serbian. It is a country of over 60 million people, and of those that actually care about this whole Albanian-Serbian dispute (which I doubt is very many), why should someone automatically stick up for the Albanians and not the Serbs? People are not sheep, they have their own minds. It just means that you are obviously in the company of very PC people who have no criticism whatsoever of what the British government thinks or does, but even common logic would suggest that it can't be the entire country that thinks and does everything exactly the same.

Do all British people like chocolate? Do all British people listen to Black Eyed Peas? Do all British people wear Levis? Do all British people follow football? Do all British people vote for the same political party?

Didn't think so.

So why would all British automatically be anti-Serbian?

In my humble opinion ‘hazel’ and ‘northampton’ are simply too bad to be genuine – hence they probably aren’t.

While it IS mildly entertaining I would nevertheless like to ask jokers presenting themselves as illiterate Albanian Diaspora to please stop what they are doing - it is tasteless too, and I am more then surprised that some Albanian didn't complain about it before!

Thanks.

MR SUDYKA!i dont know where to start when you talk about immigration or poor dirty countries.i like to know your nationality btw.in UK we have over 2 milion polish.come to northampton or peterborogh and find out how are they living.they are completely on the street.the vast majority of british people had enough with this "lovely christians"immigrants!im not muslym but let me tell you that muslym are more privilege than your polish patriotes.compare DUBAI OR ABU DHABI with your warsaw or godansk.another go and check VICTORIA COACH STATION and you will find out a number of poles beggins even for food on that station.you claimed to be more privilege than albanians but let me tell you when it comes to immigrants the british people are feed up with any one and specially with poles which are spread like cancer all over the britan.

MR JEREMIC in case you dont know,22 out of 27 eu members are pro kosovo udi.serbias EU MEMBERSHIP is a dream that wont came true.the veto from austri,holland,germany,belgium are on their way.as long as we keep the serbs out of EU the security and the economy will get better,better and better.NO EU FOR CRIMINELS AND BEGGARS
(northampton, 22 June 2010 11:13) i agree with you northampton.NO EU FOR ANY SLAVIC NATION ANY MORE.

Now please stop speaking in the name of my country, the UK, which you clearly know nothing about. Last week you were referring to the British govt as the English govt, which no-one genuinely living in the UK would do.
(kate, 22 June 2010 15:12) i have nothing to say to you any more.is your time to provide me with some sources.tel me what you have done for thins country more than i???you claimed to be british but i believe you are not.you are greek or serb immigrant to the UK.i can see you are upset but that normal.any one will be when the truth is out.if you want to know more about the poles come to northampton and ask the people on the street how they feel about the poles.

"So why would all British automatically be anti-Serbian?"
(Peter Sudyka)

-- Considering they were pro-Serbian in 1914 and 1941.

"kate is born and bread NOT born and bred.btw where is your fluent english?"
(hazel)

-- She has it. You and northhampton apparently need this:

http://www.amazon.com/English-Grammar-Dummies-Geraldine-Woods/dp/0470546646/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1277222005&sr=1-1

Kate, Peter, good to see you here again but in my opinion you're both wasting your time with these two. Your arguments clearly went over their heads, and I doubt they (could) read the whole post.

Roberto - I never criticise anyone's standard or use of English. It's impressive that anyone is posting in a second language.

The only reason that I am doing so with 'northampton' is because he is saying that he was born in England and grew up there, and wearing that hat he is speaking on behalf of England and English people. That is clearly not the case; not because of his spelling and grammar but by his basic command of the language.

I would never pick people up on their English in usual circumstances.

England is not like America where people can go to school and never learn a basic command of the language.

"FM: Serbia wants Kosovo compromise"

-- He'll get it. At the end of the day, "stability" trumps both "standards" and "status" in the Happiest Place on Earth.

Serbia will have a difficult time convincing the 22 European states from changing their minds about Kosovo recognition. Europe have begun to send back droves of albaninas who commited crimes in Europe. Finaly the EU has a place to send them back to. This wasn't possible before since they could claim persecution by Milosevic. When albanians in Europe are no longer a threat to the Europeans with their drugdistributions, human trafficing and maffia activeties then the Europeans migh allow new negotiations. However, allowing Kosovo, or Albania for that matter, to enjoy white schengen would mean yeat another wave of criminal albanians flooding European cities and with the dilemma of not having a place to send them back to.
Serbia should either have patience or accept the territory in Kosovo which they now control.

Hazel and Northampton,

Great to see more examples of your commentary here on B92.

Keep up the great work - you are doing your causes a great disservice....
(Colin, 22 June 2010 15:10)

NO!! they will think you are complementing them!

and hampton, it actually is born and bred. shows how native you are to the english language...

"So essentially, for the EU to have better security and economy, they should stop all accession (except for maybe Iceland, Norway and Switzerland), and even kick out Bulgaria and Romania, because of the vast corruption problem and lack of real progress towards economic integration" - we can only pray and hope that this come true!

Mihai, Romania

You talk about how many countries are pro-independence of Kosovo, do you know that it makes no difference whatsoever, since there are five EU members (one of them quite significant - Spain) who are against it? This means that no matter which way you slice it, Kosovo will never make it into the EU, no matter how fantastic the economy becomes, if an EU nation does not recognize them, how can they approve of their accession? That would be like inviting Santa Claus to your birthday party.

(Peter Sudyka, 22 June 2010 12:51)
It amazes me that you give so much strenght to the 5 and ignore the 22.
As most have said "Recognition is not a requirement for Serbia to enter the EU" but it is up to Serbia to settle the issue with Kosovo. Under whatever conditions it becomes acceptable for the 22 to allow Serbia into the fold, it will allow for Kosovo to be accepted by the 5.
The EU desperately wants Serbia to join as part of the balkans, because to admit all that is around it without it just creates a political nightmare. but do not be foolish enough to think that the goal is to bring Serbia in without the rest either.
If that were the goal all the 22 would have to do is undo the recognitions of Kosovo which is not going to happen.
Serbia and Kosovo will enter the EU separately but within same general time frame or neither will.

Jeremic is misusing the word "compromise" big time.
Is he really foolishing the international community? I don't think so.
Serbia's "compromise" is to have sovereignity over Kosovo. Serbia has had no intention in respecting the Opinion of the ICJ if it goes against the Serbia's interest. That is what "compromise" means in Serbian political dictionary.

Strangely enough, even though they have only arrived within recent years, many of them speak a very reasonable level of English. And there's you supposedly 'born and bred' in the UK 30 odd years ago and you never learned.

Enough said (but please try and use some punctuation).

Surely you wouldn't be in the UK yourself if British people were as intolerant as you are suggesting? Is it a case of get in and then close the doors?

Poland is in the EU and Polish people have a right to come here to the UK. Many of them work very hard and contribute to the economy.

Of course British people are fed up because they perceive immigrants to be getting something they are not. This view is stoked by the press and is similar in other European countries.

The Albanian criminal networks are causing far more problems for Britain than the Polish, and tarnishing the name of good Albanians living in Britain.

Now please stop speaking in the name of my country, the UK, which you clearly know nothing about. Last week you were referring to the British govt as the English govt, which no-one genuinely living in the UK would do.
(kate, 22 June 2010 15:12) kate is born and bread NOT born and bred.btw where is your fluent english?

FM: Serbia wants Kosovo compromise ??
--
You cannot be serious !

What Jeremic means is that he wants albanians to compromise - he said Serbia's policy wont change by one iota. Too hypocritical even for him. His jokes are always funny :)
(nikshala, 22 June 2010 18:38)

i can assure you that he is not joking when he stated that serbia will not change it's policy on kosovo.

what he means is that serbia is willing to compromise over status but will never accept the illegal UDI declared by thaci and the gang.

this is not hypocrasy

Mr Jeremic,
Many events throughout the history are not satisfactory to all sides but time moves on.If nations can renegotiate the outcome every time they lost the war nothing would ever come a closer.These renegotiations could be extended to World Cup and Olympic Games.If look at Serbian history their land grabbing attempts were always priority.
The 1999 War ended at good terms for Serbia.If it continued Serbia could fragmented in more pieces like Humpty Dumpty.
The Yugoslav Federation is over and this the outcome.Your threats to Kosovar population of whats going to happen to them unless they go back to their "Serbian Masters" are pathetic.Kosovo did a lot of compromising under Ahtisaris plan.But as old Albanian proverb says "when there is no rain even hail will do"

Kate -- i am really holding you responsible for this latest "love" fest, which has quickly become ridiculous and utterly provocative and unnecessary.

let's face it -- you and i could red line at least 50% of these postings, liberally, and you could probably have a field may w/mine (in spite of my "impeccable" grammar), and i'm sure i could find a few holes in yours. so what? so we are reasonably well educated (in english), write, teach (in my case), hold degrees and think our opinions are worth something. does that make us better than the rest? proof of superiority? moral vanguards?

so what if people confuse "bred" w/ "bread", or "bare" with "bear", or use "troll" in place of any other meaningful noun or verb? this is a multi-lingual, multi-ethnic site, whether people like it or not, forcing posters (for the mmost part) to use a tricky, often counter-intuitive language -- english. try teching it to newcomers or even native-born young adults, and you may begin to glimpse some of the challenges...

and can you imagine if we were forced to communicate in a foreign language (for us), for example, Albanian? any non-albanians here fluent in albanian, even a tad? hmm, i didn't think so.

Now Kate, you seem to get quite bent out of shape w/ fellow britts, or at least those who declare themselves such. but can you imagine my predicament, to have to co-exist (sometimes barely) with some others who claim to be my fellow americans?! it hasn't been easy, and yet they have the right to a free voice (except for hate speech!), as do i. and similarly our british colleagues, whatever their ethnic background or linguistic fluency. let's practice a little more tolerance w/ one another, hard as that can be.

again, this is another silly diversion from the subject at hand, namely jeremic, who calls for the great compromise while acting the extreme nationalist. same old, same old, from mr harvard educated... what a sad state of affairs. while the best and the brightest, the blgrd dissident intellectuals, are utterly marginalized, here, and throughout the serbian press.

and last but not least (yes, War and Peace, chapter and verse): is it true that yr nice mr. tadic is obstructing the serbian prosecutor and/or serbian courts over the latest mass grave of albanian civilians? i haven't read that specifically, but how disgusting would that be?
we have to force this exhumation, one way or another, with all proper transparency and international expertise, as well as full albanian participaton... now, not later -- those bodies are NOT serbian property.

thank you.

roberto, frisco

ps i am hoping one of my articles will be translated into Albanian, but how will i know how close the translation comes?

we have to force this exhumation, one way or another, with all proper transparency and international expertise, as well as full albanian participaton... now, not later -- those bodies are NOT serbian property.

thank you.

roberto, frisco

ps i am hoping one of my articles will be translated into Albanian, but how will i know how close the translation comes?
(roberto, 22 June 2010 22:48)
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How said it is that some have to force Albania to allow investigation into organ harvesting too. I don't see you all bent out of shape on that one.
Roberto, you are the biggest hypocrite here on this site. You claim to be unbiased when you are clearly very, very biased. You constantly champion for Albanians at sling mug at Serbs at every opportunity. That's fine if you didn't claim to be unbiased. Others do this from both sides but they don't claim to be unbiased.

I don't belive you teach English either. I know it doesn't matter because we don't either but again we don't claim to. No English teacher could tolerate texting when you are not actually texting but posting on a site such as this one. Texting is only acceptable on the phone. English teachers usually demand proper use of capital letters, punctuation and spelling. Again, this alone does not disqualify anyone from having an opinion but if one claims to be born in the UK, America or Australia then one surely has a fair command of the English language no matter what is spoken at home.

We are only exposing the liars here, that's all.

So by all means, have your "unbiased" opinion but please don't insult our intelligence while you are having it.

John C: "Nobody genuinely living in the UK would take a Pro-Serbian stance, unless he/she would be one or somehow related to another one."

You are wrong, and why wouldn't they? I was very against the attack on Serbia in 1999 and remain so to this day. I have been appalled by how biased the media in the UK is about this issue, ever since the Bosnian war.

They are genuinely my own views as an English person. There are other British and Americans who feel the same as I do. We don't all just believe everything that we are told to believe.

If things were balanced you wouldn't be surprised at all. It's more worrying that you think everyone thinks the same.

"Kate -- i am really holding you responsible for this latest "love" fest, which has quickly become ridiculous and utterly provocative and unnecessary." (roberto)

-- Yeah kate. You're attempt at trying to be clear and articulate got poor roberto all upset, forcing him to step in and remind you of what an insensitive human being you are for pointing out his colleagues' provocative and irrational rants.

I hope you're happy.

"try *teching* it to newcomers or even native-born young adults, and you may begin to glimpse some of the challenges..."

That's TEACHING Roberto :) There is a difference between the odd typo (as above) and the utterly illiterate comments of some. They are just wasting space here as we would be on the Albanian blogs.

Nik, not following your logic my friend, if you surrender a piece of territory VOLUNTARILY, then your enemies will no doubt be back for more.

The reason Serbia is "losing" now is the same as in 1915 or 1941. Our local opponents have managed to convince larger, stronger countries to use them as proxies for a power grab in the Balkans.

The Serbs remain "principled" now as then. We aren't quite sure when the new 1918 or 1945 will arrive - but we are sure it will and another page of Serbian history will be written.

Certainly one can say with confidence, that our opponents and their backers reached their zenith back in 2000. Since then the US has been fading and other players have been emerging.

It totally makes sense now to try and have an even foreign policy (ie EU, Russia, US, China etc) and ride out the storm till it is clear who the next "big shot" will be.

I can just see us all being criticised for our poor Mandarin on the B92 blogs in 2050 ... I'll certainly be too old then to learn it Roberto :)

"Serbs please forget it! Tragically we have paid the price of history.Look at the ethographic maps of Yugoslavia in 1991 and look at the Balkans today...Why?"
(Nik, 22 June 2010 21:38)

Correct observation, yes. About the Why? Serbs have been "smart" and there has been a "great" Serbian president elected in 1989 ... that's how the tragedy began.

Jeremic , Tadic and co have no real policies to get Kosovo back.Lets get real it's lost.What they are interested in is power and joing the elites of the EU.
The point is that no Albanian has anything to talk about so all this about negotiations is talk to stave off what is obvious it's over.
Whether its over for Jeremic tadic and co is another matter.
The past two years has seen the parrot like mantra of Yes to EU no to Kosovo.Since that time 22 EU countries have recognised Kosovo.
Meanwhile the mantra of talks goes on...
The current regime of the offspring of Communists will continue until they realise they can't square the circle and that will be that.
Please stop going on about Kosovo is Serbia...its mantra again..No one is prepared to fight as if that would help against a virtually non Serb population.No one can rely on NATO or the EU as the majority supports Kosovo.
This catastrophic policy of the destruction of Serb National interests started in the 1990s and has continued unabated with Jeremic and Tadic.Next is Vojvodina and who knows even the Sanzak...Meanwhile The RS has been put out to see by Tadic's disasterous apologies over Srebrenica on the basis its time for reconciliation but nobody if you've noticed has done so in return.
Serbia will be the Belgrade pashuluk but Luxembourg is in the EU and so will Belgrade one day when they've finished with this lot and it joins the EU
Serbs please forget it! Tragically we have paid the price of history.Look at the ethographic maps of Yugoslavia in 1991 and look at the Balkans today...Why?

pss

Who said I am ignoring the 22 that recognize Kosovo? Anyway, first reason why this is irrelevant, is that 1) Serbs are not as keen on the EU as Kosovo is and 2) one country with veto power is enough to say "non".

Also pss, do you have any sources to back up your claim that Serbia's recognition of Kosovo will be a precondition for them to join? As far as I know, they only have to cooperate with the ICJ on Mladic.

Another "news" article about succession and stating the obvious and well known?

It's amusing how many times the same story can be printed, ie: "Serbia says nyet, Albanians say yes to independence." And true to form the "usual suspects" on both sides come out to state their positions on this forum, ie: "Jeremic is so and so, and Serbia is this and that."

No, Zoti, you are wrong on both counts.

I don't think that there aren't uneducated people in Britain or those that slip through the loop, but not to the extent where they live in the UK for 30 years and don't have a basic command of the verbal language, let alone written.

As for the America stereotype, I don't believe that either, but the fact is that the States are geographically so spread out and there are whole communities who can be excluded from basic education. In some states I know that this is the case.

I am perfectly aware of the excellent level of education available in America, if you can access it or are lucky enough to win one of the gold dust scholarships! I wish we had more of those in Europe.

Kate, perhaps you should stop replying to the Albanians as they will continue to twist everything you say in the hope of making you look silly, racist or just clueless.

We all know what you meant with your comment about people living in England or attending school in England and still not speaking the language but some choose to pretend that they can punch holes in your argument by distorting what you have said.

England is not like America where people can go to school and never learn a basic command of the language.
(kate, 23 June 20104)

Kate as a Brit ya should be aware of da chavs. Them peeps go to skool and never learn a basic command of da language.

You might have been thinking of the England of Oxford, Cambridge, and BBC but there's also another side of england that is eerily simlar to the America you have in mind. Obviously when you think of America you don't think of the best higher education in the world but of those youtube charicature videes of clueless Americans.

MR SUDYKA!i dont know where to start when you talk about immigration or poor dirty countries.i like to know your nationality btw.in UK we have over 2 milion polish.come to northampton or peterborogh and find out how are they living.they are completely on the street.the vast majority of british people had enough with this "lovely christians"immigrants!im not muslym but let me tell you that muslym are more privilege than your polish patriotes.compare DUBAI OR ABU DHABI with your warsaw or godansk.another go and check VICTORIA COACH STATION and you will find out a number of poles beggins even for food on that station.you claimed to be more privilege than albanians but let me tell you when it comes to immigrants the british people are feed up with any one and specially with poles which are spread like cancer all over the britan.

Jeremic wants many dreams of many things but serb people know the truth and want to move on living side by side as two neighbours with Kosovo and Serbia.

Now please stop speaking in the name of my country, the UK, which you clearly know nothing about. Last week you were referring to the British govt as the English govt, which no-one genuinely living in the UK would do.
(kate, 22 June 2010 15:12) i have nothing to say to you any more.is your time to provide me with some sources.tel me what you have done for thins country more than i???you claimed to be british but i believe you are not.you are greek or serb immigrant to the UK.i can see you are upset but that normal.any one will be when the truth is out.if you want to know more about the poles come to northampton and ask the people on the street how they feel about the poles.

MR JEREMIC in case you dont know,22 out of 27 eu members are pro kosovo udi.serbias EU MEMBERSHIP is a dream that wont came true.the veto from austri,holland,germany,belgium are on their way.as long as we keep the serbs out of EU the security and the economy will get better,better and better.NO EU FOR CRIMINELS AND BEGGARS

Sure we can compromize, Kosovo gets to stay in Serbia (as it is now, stated in resolution 1244) and Albanians can choose to have Albanian, Marsian or Kosovan passports? Sounds like a fine deal to me!

Now please stop speaking in the name of my country, the UK, which you clearly know nothing about. Last week you were referring to the British govt as the English govt, which no-one genuinely living in the UK would do.
(kate, 22 June 2010 15:12)

Nobody genuinely living in the UK would take a Pro-Serbian stance, unless he/she would be one or somehow related to another one.

MR JEREMIC in case you dont know,22 out of 27 eu members are pro kosovo udi.serbias EU MEMBERSHIP is a dream that wont came true.the veto from austri,holland,germany,belgium are on their way.as long as we keep the serbs out of EU the security and the economy will get better,better and better.NO EU FOR CRIMINELS AND BEGGARS
(northampton, 22 June 2010 11:13) i agree with you northampton.NO EU FOR ANY SLAVIC NATION ANY MORE.

Strangely enough, even though they have only arrived within recent years, many of them speak a very reasonable level of English. And there's you supposedly 'born and bred' in the UK 30 odd years ago and you never learned.

Enough said (but please try and use some punctuation).

Surely you wouldn't be in the UK yourself if British people were as intolerant as you are suggesting? Is it a case of get in and then close the doors?

Poland is in the EU and Polish people have a right to come here to the UK. Many of them work very hard and contribute to the economy.

Of course British people are fed up because they perceive immigrants to be getting something they are not. This view is stoked by the press and is similar in other European countries.

The Albanian criminal networks are causing far more problems for Britain than the Polish, and tarnishing the name of good Albanians living in Britain.

Now please stop speaking in the name of my country, the UK, which you clearly know nothing about. Last week you were referring to the British govt as the English govt, which no-one genuinely living in the UK would do.
(kate, 22 June 2010 15:12) kate is born and bread NOT born and bred.btw where is your fluent english?

Too late now, you should have tried earlier. Done deal. Keep Dreaming!

northampton

First of all, the term "dirt-poor" does not reflect on the level of cleanliness of a country. Even the dumbest high school dropout in the UK would know this.

Secondly, there are not over 2 million Poles in the UK, there never were this many. 700,000 is more like it.

Anyway, the number of Polish immigrants into the UK has "plummeted":

http://www.thenews.pl/international/artykul132481_migration-from-poland-to-uk-plummets.html

And many have or are now returning to Poland (as per the British media):

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/4742214/UK-Poles-return-home.html

Yes, there have been examples of some Poles going there out of desperation and living in dire conditions, but this is not reflective in any way of the majority of Polish immigrants there.

Sure, the British are fed up with immigrants from anywhere, but they especially dislike Poles because Poles actually go there to work, and as a result, they undercut the native British workers and bring a rise to prices of rent. Whilst the British are bothered with this, I highly doubt that it compares with the feeling towards some of the activities that the Albanian mobsters and members of street gangs do.

Maybe Abu Dhabi and Dubai are more fancy than our Warsaw or Gdansk, but I assure you that Warsaw and Gdansk compare most favourably with any city in Albania, that you can be 1000% sure of.

Naturally also, you will consider muslims "more privilege" (whatever that means) than Poles, since most Albanians belong to this faith, but tell me, when was the last time you saw Poles doing this:

http://media.nowpublic.net/images//21/f/21f4bbd0aa9922116ce6a8dc66107ec3.jpg

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060206/060206_wp_london_protest_hmed9p.hmedium.jpg

http://ironicsurrealism.blogivists.com/files/2009/04/muslim-protesters-soldiers-homecoming-parade-luton-march-2009-2.jpg

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/08/muslim220806_600x400.jpg

Charming, isn't it? I am sure the English truly feel privileged to be in the company of such fine immigrants as these.

BTW. With your last rant, I doubt you will be doing your claim of being British-born any justice. I bet even the worst of the Polish immigrants can write in better English than you.

hazel

Sure, sure. An Albanian, whose country is outside the EU for obvious reasons, is claiming that the EU should not let any Slavic nations in. Well, you can be sure of one thing, with the exception of Bulgaria, all Slavic EU members are economically light years ahead of Albania and far more deservingly in the EU than Albania will be in the next 20 years at least.

Poland is now the 6th largest economy of the EU (having overtook the Netherlands), and at the rate it's going, will break the $1-trillion GDP mark, and is set to possibly even overtake Spain economically in the not so distant future.

We are the only EU country to have recorded any economic growth.

Slovenia and Czech Republic have living standards, public services and economical stability like Albania can only dream of. Both bost GDP PPP per capita 4 TIMES more than Albania. Hell, even Poland and Slovakia have 3 TIMES higher than Albania, non-EU member Croatia also does.

So tell me, who are you, an Albanian, whose country is economically not dissimilar from many African, Latin American and South/South-East Asian nations, is in any position to refuse EU for any Slavic nation when all Slavic nations are in a better state economically than Albania (save for maybe the Ukraine)?

Read it and weep:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

I say EU for all Slavic nations (if they want it, not that I am a supporter of the EU in anyway) before Albania, since after the economic disaster in Greece, God alone only knows what EU membership of Albania bodes.

Romania and Bulgaria were HUGE mistakes, as admitted by many EU politicians, so what makes you think even poorer, more corrupt and more organized crime drenched Albania will offer?

Kate -- i am really holding you responsible for this latest "love" fest, which has quickly become ridiculous and utterly provocative and unnecessary.

let's face it -- you and i could red line at least 50% of these postings, liberally, and you could probably have a field may w/mine (in spite of my "impeccable" grammar), and i'm sure i could find a few holes in yours. so what? so we are reasonably well educated (in english), write, teach (in my case), hold degrees and think our opinions are worth something. does that make us better than the rest? proof of superiority? moral vanguards?

so what if people confuse "bred" w/ "bread", or "bare" with "bear", or use "troll" in place of any other meaningful noun or verb? this is a multi-lingual, multi-ethnic site, whether people like it or not, forcing posters (for the mmost part) to use a tricky, often counter-intuitive language -- english. try teching it to newcomers or even native-born young adults, and you may begin to glimpse some of the challenges...

and can you imagine if we were forced to communicate in a foreign language (for us), for example, Albanian? any non-albanians here fluent in albanian, even a tad? hmm, i didn't think so.

Now Kate, you seem to get quite bent out of shape w/ fellow britts, or at least those who declare themselves such. but can you imagine my predicament, to have to co-exist (sometimes barely) with some others who claim to be my fellow americans?! it hasn't been easy, and yet they have the right to a free voice (except for hate speech!), as do i. and similarly our british colleagues, whatever their ethnic background or linguistic fluency. let's practice a little more tolerance w/ one another, hard as that can be.

again, this is another silly diversion from the subject at hand, namely jeremic, who calls for the great compromise while acting the extreme nationalist. same old, same old, from mr harvard educated... what a sad state of affairs. while the best and the brightest, the blgrd dissident intellectuals, are utterly marginalized, here, and throughout the serbian press.

and last but not least (yes, War and Peace, chapter and verse): is it true that yr nice mr. tadic is obstructing the serbian prosecutor and/or serbian courts over the latest mass grave of albanian civilians? i haven't read that specifically, but how disgusting would that be?
we have to force this exhumation, one way or another, with all proper transparency and international expertise, as well as full albanian participaton... now, not later -- those bodies are NOT serbian property.

thank you.

roberto, frisco

ps i am hoping one of my articles will be translated into Albanian, but how will i know how close the translation comes?

Just read this:

"Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić stated in an interview for Austrian state radio that Serbia is in favor of a compromise solution regarding Kosovo."

So first, say that you want compromise. That sounds good for the appeasement ears in the West. And now read that:

“As far as Kosovo is concerned, Serbia will not change its policy by one iota,” Jeremić said. "

Haha, we want compromise but we don't change our stance, even a little bit. This is masterpiece of "Serbian compromise". Unfortunately, for Vuk and the rest who perpetuates this dream is that noone is going to push that, not even those who claim to be on Serbia's side.

This made my day.

so it must be something else,” Jeremić was quoted as saying.



I am dying to know what that something else is,Mr Wolf?

northampton

You talk about how many countries are pro-independence of Kosovo, do you know that it makes no difference whatsoever, since there are five EU members (one of them quite significant - Spain) who are against it? This means that no matter which way you slice it, Kosovo will never make it into the EU, no matter how fantastic the economy becomes, if an EU nation does not recognize them, how can they approve of their accession? That would be like inviting Santa Claus to your birthday party.

Also, Serbia's SAA is unblocked and they are a part of the White Schengen. The same does not hold true for Turkey, Bosnia & Herzegovina (except for native Serbs and Croats, who have citizenship of their respective homelands), Albania and Kosovo.

Quite a coincidence, isn't it? You think the Netherlands, Germany, Belgium and other EU states who really have the money will be keen to allow in muslim states like the latter, considering their vast muslim immigrant population and the problems they cause? Look how much influence Geert Wilders has gained in the last Dutch elections. Or BNP in Britain.

Nationalism is growing in Europe, and the EU with its current liberal, multicultural and politically correct approach are losing appeal in the mainstream of the native populations of the EU.

Why? People taxpayers have had enough of stuffing asylum seekers, immigrants and others bellies full with their tax money, while their general lifestyle deteriorates. So essentially, for the EU to have better security and economy, they should stop all accession (except for maybe Iceland, Norway and Switzerland), and even kick out Bulgaria and Romania, because of the vast corruption problem and lack of real progress towards economic integration.

Also, Albania and Kosovo are no exceptions. The EU would be suicidal to let in these dirt-poor nations with the highest proportion per capita of Interpol criminals in Europe. Or do you think they will stop Serbia from coming in, but let Albania and Kosovo? You are deluded.

BTW Your English is truly shocking. Try a dictionary, Mr British-born citizen. I am not born in an English-speaking nation, nor did I start really learning it in high school, yet my English is better than yours.

@ northampton - Polish people are not living on the streets in Britain - what nonsense. And there are 1 million not 2 million.

Strangely enough, even though they have only arrived within recent years, many of them speak a very reasonable level of English. And there's you supposedly 'born and bred' in the UK 30 odd years ago and you never learned.

Enough said (but please try and use some punctuation).

Surely you wouldn't be in the UK yourself if British people were as intolerant as you are suggesting? Is it a case of get in and then close the doors?

Poland is in the EU and Polish people have a right to come here to the UK. Many of them work very hard and contribute to the economy.

Of course British people are fed up because they perceive immigrants to be getting something they are not. This view is stoked by the press and is similar in other European countries.

The Albanian criminal networks are causing far more problems for Britain than the Polish, and tarnishing the name of good Albanians living in Britain.

Now please stop speaking in the name of my country, the UK, which you clearly know nothing about. Last week you were referring to the British govt as the English govt, which no-one genuinely living in the UK would do.

“Serbia had an extraordinary report on its progress…” said Mr Jeremic.

What a cynical statement!!! You talk about Serbia’s progress while the same time your president Mr Tadic forbade the Serbian prosecution to open or even launch an investigation on the newly discovered mass grave containing some 250-300 bodies of Kosovar Albanians in Serbia. Mr Tadic even put pressure during his last visit to Skopje on his Macedonian counterpart not to take up investigations on another mass grave of Kosovar Albanians killed by Serbs forces and buried in Macedonia. Extraordinary progress indeed Mr Jeremic!!!

JohnC

I fail to see what reason the British would have to be anti-Serbian. It is a country of over 60 million people, and of those that actually care about this whole Albanian-Serbian dispute (which I doubt is very many), why should someone automatically stick up for the Albanians and not the Serbs? People are not sheep, they have their own minds. It just means that you are obviously in the company of very PC people who have no criticism whatsoever of what the British government thinks or does, but even common logic would suggest that it can't be the entire country that thinks and does everything exactly the same.

Do all British people like chocolate? Do all British people listen to Black Eyed Peas? Do all British people wear Levis? Do all British people follow football? Do all British people vote for the same political party?

Didn't think so.

So why would all British automatically be anti-Serbian?

hazel

I nearly spat coffee on my screen when I saw your last reply to kate, I laughed so much. For future reference, "bread" is what people eat, "bred" is the past tense of "breed", which I think has more relevance to someone's nationality than the bread that you eat does. Are you also "born and bread" in the UK?

Hazel and Northampton,

Great to see more examples of your commentary here on B92.

Keep up the great work - you are doing your causes a great disservice....
(Colin, 22 June 2010 15:10)

NO!! they will think you are complementing them!

and hampton, it actually is born and bred. shows how native you are to the english language...

"So why would all British automatically be anti-Serbian?"
(Peter Sudyka)

-- Considering they were pro-Serbian in 1914 and 1941.

"kate is born and bread NOT born and bred.btw where is your fluent english?"
(hazel)

-- She has it. You and northhampton apparently need this:

http://www.amazon.com/English-Grammar-Dummies-Geraldine-Woods/dp/0470546646/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1277222005&sr=1-1

Kate, Peter, good to see you here again but in my opinion you're both wasting your time with these two. Your arguments clearly went over their heads, and I doubt they (could) read the whole post.

Serbia will have a difficult time convincing the 22 European states from changing their minds about Kosovo recognition. Europe have begun to send back droves of albaninas who commited crimes in Europe. Finaly the EU has a place to send them back to. This wasn't possible before since they could claim persecution by Milosevic. When albanians in Europe are no longer a threat to the Europeans with their drugdistributions, human trafficing and maffia activeties then the Europeans migh allow new negotiations. However, allowing Kosovo, or Albania for that matter, to enjoy white schengen would mean yeat another wave of criminal albanians flooding European cities and with the dilemma of not having a place to send them back to.
Serbia should either have patience or accept the territory in Kosovo which they now control.

What Jeremic means is that he wants albanians to compromise - he said Serbia's policy wont change by one iota. Too hypocritical even for him. His jokes are always funny :)
(nikshala, 22 June 2010 18:38)

i can assure you that he is not joking when he stated that serbia will not change it's policy on kosovo.

what he means is that serbia is willing to compromise over status but will never accept the illegal UDI declared by thaci and the gang.

this is not hypocrasy

northampton says..." as we keep the serbs out of EU the security and the economy will get better,better and better."

To northampton.... As I tell my sons, "If you are ignorant...don't be arrogant!"

Sounds like a fine deal to me!
(Srboslav, 22 June 2010 11:50)

Right, to you! What about the other part?

After all, it's only the land that interests you. As far as you are concenrned the people could get Martian passports and fly to Mars, right?

Yes, always funny to hear about the "compromises" from both sides. For Kosovo Albanians, partition is "not an option" and "Kosovo's borders cannot be changed".

For Serbs, "Kosovo is Serbia" and "Serbia's borders cannot be changed"

A partition will come, eventually. It's the only viable solution for a region full of ethnical hate. A "multiethnic Kosovo" might be a nice wish, idea and project, but it is an illusion.

Both sides don't want it, everyone can see it: Serbs don't want to participate in Kosovo institutions and prefer to do their own things. Kosovo Albanians do everything to drive away more Serbs and block any returnees by shooting and throwing stones at them, and KPS is not willing or able to stop it.

In my humble opinion ‘hazel’ and ‘northampton’ are simply too bad to be genuine – hence they probably aren’t.

While it IS mildly entertaining I would nevertheless like to ask jokers presenting themselves as illiterate Albanian Diaspora to please stop what they are doing - it is tasteless too, and I am more then surprised that some Albanian didn't complain about it before!

Thanks.

"FM: Serbia wants Kosovo compromise"

-- He'll get it. At the end of the day, "stability" trumps both "standards" and "status" in the Happiest Place on Earth.

Its born and bred (as in past tense of breed).

What Jeremic means is that he wants albanians to compromise - he said Serbia's policy wont change by one iota. Too hypocritical even for him. His jokes are always funny :)

I am more then surprised that some Albanian didn't complain about it before!

Thanks.
(Jelena, UK, 22 June 2010)

Why would we complain? If anyone is stupid enough to think that a couple of people are representative of a whole nation may God save their souls.

90% of the posts here are about grammar mistakes when we should be talking about the "compromise" Mr. Jeremic is promising and negating at the same time.

I hope my grammar was satisfacotry enough for the Oxford, Cambridge and Krakow educated here.

Mr Jeremic,
Many events throughout the history are not satisfactory to all sides but time moves on.If nations can renegotiate the outcome every time they lost the war nothing would ever come a closer.These renegotiations could be extended to World Cup and Olympic Games.If look at Serbian history their land grabbing attempts were always priority.
The 1999 War ended at good terms for Serbia.If it continued Serbia could fragmented in more pieces like Humpty Dumpty.
The Yugoslav Federation is over and this the outcome.Your threats to Kosovar population of whats going to happen to them unless they go back to their "Serbian Masters" are pathetic.Kosovo did a lot of compromising under Ahtisaris plan.But as old Albanian proverb says "when there is no rain even hail will do"

Roberto - I never criticise anyone's standard or use of English. It's impressive that anyone is posting in a second language.

The only reason that I am doing so with 'northampton' is because he is saying that he was born in England and grew up there, and wearing that hat he is speaking on behalf of England and English people. That is clearly not the case; not because of his spelling and grammar but by his basic command of the language.

I would never pick people up on their English in usual circumstances.

England is not like America where people can go to school and never learn a basic command of the language.

...not by one iota.

we will watch you, my friend!

You talk about how many countries are pro-independence of Kosovo, do you know that it makes no difference whatsoever, since there are five EU members (one of them quite significant - Spain) who are against it? This means that no matter which way you slice it, Kosovo will never make it into the EU, no matter how fantastic the economy becomes, if an EU nation does not recognize them, how can they approve of their accession? That would be like inviting Santa Claus to your birthday party.

(Peter Sudyka, 22 June 2010 12:51)
It amazes me that you give so much strenght to the 5 and ignore the 22.
As most have said "Recognition is not a requirement for Serbia to enter the EU" but it is up to Serbia to settle the issue with Kosovo. Under whatever conditions it becomes acceptable for the 22 to allow Serbia into the fold, it will allow for Kosovo to be accepted by the 5.
The EU desperately wants Serbia to join as part of the balkans, because to admit all that is around it without it just creates a political nightmare. but do not be foolish enough to think that the goal is to bring Serbia in without the rest either.
If that were the goal all the 22 would have to do is undo the recognitions of Kosovo which is not going to happen.
Serbia and Kosovo will enter the EU separately but within same general time frame or neither will.

John C: "Nobody genuinely living in the UK would take a Pro-Serbian stance, unless he/she would be one or somehow related to another one."

You are wrong, and why wouldn't they? I was very against the attack on Serbia in 1999 and remain so to this day. I have been appalled by how biased the media in the UK is about this issue, ever since the Bosnian war.

They are genuinely my own views as an English person. There are other British and Americans who feel the same as I do. We don't all just believe everything that we are told to believe.

If things were balanced you wouldn't be surprised at all. It's more worrying that you think everyone thinks the same.

Also pss, do you have any sources to back up your claim that Serbia's recognition of Kosovo will be a precondition for them to join? As far as I know, they only have to cooperate with the ICJ on Mladic.

Hazel and Northampton,

Great to see more examples of your commentary here on B92.

Keep up the great work - you are doing your causes a great disservice....

Jeremic is misusing the word "compromise" big time.
Is he really foolishing the international community? I don't think so.
Serbia's "compromise" is to have sovereignity over Kosovo. Serbia has had no intention in respecting the Opinion of the ICJ if it goes against the Serbia's interest. That is what "compromise" means in Serbian political dictionary.

"try *teching* it to newcomers or even native-born young adults, and you may begin to glimpse some of the challenges..."

That's TEACHING Roberto :) There is a difference between the odd typo (as above) and the utterly illiterate comments of some. They are just wasting space here as we would be on the Albanian blogs.

Nik, not following your logic my friend, if you surrender a piece of territory VOLUNTARILY, then your enemies will no doubt be back for more.

The reason Serbia is "losing" now is the same as in 1915 or 1941. Our local opponents have managed to convince larger, stronger countries to use them as proxies for a power grab in the Balkans.

The Serbs remain "principled" now as then. We aren't quite sure when the new 1918 or 1945 will arrive - but we are sure it will and another page of Serbian history will be written.

Certainly one can say with confidence, that our opponents and their backers reached their zenith back in 2000. Since then the US has been fading and other players have been emerging.

It totally makes sense now to try and have an even foreign policy (ie EU, Russia, US, China etc) and ride out the storm till it is clear who the next "big shot" will be.

I can just see us all being criticised for our poor Mandarin on the B92 blogs in 2050 ... I'll certainly be too old then to learn it Roberto :)

FM: Serbia wants Kosovo compromise ??
--
You cannot be serious !

pss

Who said I am ignoring the 22 that recognize Kosovo? Anyway, first reason why this is irrelevant, is that 1) Serbs are not as keen on the EU as Kosovo is and 2) one country with veto power is enough to say "non".

Jeremic , Tadic and co have no real policies to get Kosovo back.Lets get real it's lost.What they are interested in is power and joing the elites of the EU.
The point is that no Albanian has anything to talk about so all this about negotiations is talk to stave off what is obvious it's over.
Whether its over for Jeremic tadic and co is another matter.
The past two years has seen the parrot like mantra of Yes to EU no to Kosovo.Since that time 22 EU countries have recognised Kosovo.
Meanwhile the mantra of talks goes on...
The current regime of the offspring of Communists will continue until they realise they can't square the circle and that will be that.
Please stop going on about Kosovo is Serbia...its mantra again..No one is prepared to fight as if that would help against a virtually non Serb population.No one can rely on NATO or the EU as the majority supports Kosovo.
This catastrophic policy of the destruction of Serb National interests started in the 1990s and has continued unabated with Jeremic and Tadic.Next is Vojvodina and who knows even the Sanzak...Meanwhile The RS has been put out to see by Tadic's disasterous apologies over Srebrenica on the basis its time for reconciliation but nobody if you've noticed has done so in return.
Serbia will be the Belgrade pashuluk but Luxembourg is in the EU and so will Belgrade one day when they've finished with this lot and it joins the EU
Serbs please forget it! Tragically we have paid the price of history.Look at the ethographic maps of Yugoslavia in 1991 and look at the Balkans today...Why?

we have to force this exhumation, one way or another, with all proper transparency and international expertise, as well as full albanian participaton... now, not later -- those bodies are NOT serbian property.

thank you.

roberto, frisco

ps i am hoping one of my articles will be translated into Albanian, but how will i know how close the translation comes?
(roberto, 22 June 2010 22:48)
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How said it is that some have to force Albania to allow investigation into organ harvesting too. I don't see you all bent out of shape on that one.
Roberto, you are the biggest hypocrite here on this site. You claim to be unbiased when you are clearly very, very biased. You constantly champion for Albanians at sling mug at Serbs at every opportunity. That's fine if you didn't claim to be unbiased. Others do this from both sides but they don't claim to be unbiased.

I don't belive you teach English either. I know it doesn't matter because we don't either but again we don't claim to. No English teacher could tolerate texting when you are not actually texting but posting on a site such as this one. Texting is only acceptable on the phone. English teachers usually demand proper use of capital letters, punctuation and spelling. Again, this alone does not disqualify anyone from having an opinion but if one claims to be born in the UK, America or Australia then one surely has a fair command of the English language no matter what is spoken at home.

We are only exposing the liars here, that's all.

So by all means, have your "unbiased" opinion but please don't insult our intelligence while you are having it.

"So essentially, for the EU to have better security and economy, they should stop all accession (except for maybe Iceland, Norway and Switzerland), and even kick out Bulgaria and Romania, because of the vast corruption problem and lack of real progress towards economic integration" - we can only pray and hope that this come true!

Mihai, Romania

"Kate -- i am really holding you responsible for this latest "love" fest, which has quickly become ridiculous and utterly provocative and unnecessary." (roberto)

-- Yeah kate. You're attempt at trying to be clear and articulate got poor roberto all upset, forcing him to step in and remind you of what an insensitive human being you are for pointing out his colleagues' provocative and irrational rants.

I hope you're happy.

No, Zoti, you are wrong on both counts.

I don't think that there aren't uneducated people in Britain or those that slip through the loop, but not to the extent where they live in the UK for 30 years and don't have a basic command of the verbal language, let alone written.

As for the America stereotype, I don't believe that either, but the fact is that the States are geographically so spread out and there are whole communities who can be excluded from basic education. In some states I know that this is the case.

I am perfectly aware of the excellent level of education available in America, if you can access it or are lucky enough to win one of the gold dust scholarships! I wish we had more of those in Europe.

Another "news" article about succession and stating the obvious and well known?

It's amusing how many times the same story can be printed, ie: "Serbia says nyet, Albanians say yes to independence." And true to form the "usual suspects" on both sides come out to state their positions on this forum, ie: "Jeremic is so and so, and Serbia is this and that."

Kate, perhaps you should stop replying to the Albanians as they will continue to twist everything you say in the hope of making you look silly, racist or just clueless.

We all know what you meant with your comment about people living in England or attending school in England and still not speaking the language but some choose to pretend that they can punch holes in your argument by distorting what you have said.

England is not like America where people can go to school and never learn a basic command of the language.
(kate, 23 June 20104)

Kate as a Brit ya should be aware of da chavs. Them peeps go to skool and never learn a basic command of da language.

You might have been thinking of the England of Oxford, Cambridge, and BBC but there's also another side of england that is eerily simlar to the America you have in mind. Obviously when you think of America you don't think of the best higher education in the world but of those youtube charicature videes of clueless Americans.

"Serbs please forget it! Tragically we have paid the price of history.Look at the ethographic maps of Yugoslavia in 1991 and look at the Balkans today...Why?"
(Nik, 22 June 2010 21:38)

Correct observation, yes. About the Why? Serbs have been "smart" and there has been a "great" Serbian president elected in 1989 ... that's how the tragedy began.