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Friday, 11.06.2010.

13:43

Kosovo police chase man, “catch MUP ID”

Kosovo police, KPS, in northern Kosovska Mitrovica stated they have found the personal documents of a man they say is a member of the Serbian police.

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UK

pre 13 godina

bad week for serbia.1 ilegal serb in sweden another 1 in kosovo.is time to clean europe from this primitive ilegals immigrants.
(northampton, 11 June 2010 20:26)

Judging by your appalling spelling and even worse grammar you are probably not from Northampton in UK as your name would suggest. Two comments to aim at your bigoted statement. 1. Serb police officer in a province of Serbia..not exactly news is it? 2.Even if you take the view that a Serb police officer should not be in a province of Serbia then think about the probability of the only thing that he would leave behind being the one thing that could positively identify him...probability is next to zero. All in all this sounds to me like a non story at best and a fabricated story at worst. To call him a primitive illegal immigrant (or primitive ilegals immigrants as you prefer to say!) only serves to highlight your inherent anti Serb mentality and as such your skewed perspective on this so called news story. How about we focus on the real news and the facts for a change? Thanks

lowe

pre 13 godina

"I now feel so much more confident knowing with all the MUP in Kosova, they have not been at all successful in being disruptive. It must be all those paid Albanian "informants" that are taking Serbia's cash and laughing all the way to the bank. Serbia has been taken for a ride once again. We thank you for being so naive!

btw, Good luck against a weak Ghana team tomorrow, Serbia is going to need it.
(Michael R., 12 June 2010 22:30) "

Isn't your confidence misplaced? The best Pristina's people could do was find (or claimed to have found) some ID documents ...... something like eating a chicken pie without the chicken ......

lowe

pre 13 godina

"UNSCR 1244 says that Kosovo should have its own police, therefore regardless of Kosovo's independence/ status, Kosovo is to have its own police. This is what UNSCR 1244 says and if I am correct, the Belgrade side religiously praises and honours UNSCR 1244 on a daily basis. Well Belgrade has just violated UNSR 1244 again as police from Serbia have entered and intruded Kosovo, this goes against your mighty UNSCR 1244 and thus against international law if you believe UNSCR 1244 is still in effect. So I ask again, does the Belgrade side support UNSCR 1244 or not? because Belgrade has just violated it again. Serbian double standards.

Also Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 first in 2006. In 2006, Serbia's Constitution unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status by saying it was a Serbian province. Pristina was never asked about this, they were given no say. This violated UNSCR 1244 as it said that both sides must come to an agreement, but Belgrade came to an agreement on its own, which is a violation of UNSCR 1244. So this gave Kosovo no choice but to unilaterally declare independence as Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 in 2006. Serbian double standards.
(Ian, UK, 12 June 2010 08:59) "

You don't get my point at all. Let me try again ......

1244 applies to the PEROVINCE of Kosovo, NOT to the STATE of Kosovo that Pristina now claims to be.

Under 1244, the PROVINCE of Kosovo can have its own police, etc. This so-called STATE of Kosovo cannot have its own police under 1244. The "STATE" of Kosovo is a non-entity as far as 1244 is concerned.

Sreten

pre 13 godina

To Ian, UK.

To stop the story about violations of UN 1244.
I wouldn't mind this resolutions being followed to the last point, with harsh punishment for all the violators.
Would you?
You have to stop reading documents partially.
By UN 1244 Serbian police should not be there...
No, it shouldn't. Serbian Army should be there in some parts of Kosovo.
And by the way Kosovo should not be independent.
Would you like some other document?
Here is the nice one.
Constitutional Framework for Provisional Self-Government in Kosovo promulgated on May 15, 2001 by the Special Representative of the Secretary-General, Hans Haekkerup.

http://www.unmikonline.org/constframework.htm

It also states that entire territory of Kosovo should be governed by Provisional Self-Government in Pristina.

Oops!

""...should not in any way affect or diminish the ultimate authority of UN..."

"...does not affect the status that will be determined in UNSC..."

UN never did, as far as I remember.

Document also reserves some right to international representatives (UN)

"(m) Concluding agreements with states and international organizations in all matters within the scope of UNSCR 1244 (1999); "

or

"(o) External relations, including with states and international organisations, as may be necessary for the implementation of his mandate."

And the right to

""(b) Dissolving the assembly and calling for new elections in circumstances where the Provisional Institutions of Self-Government are deemed to act in a manner which is not in conformity with UNSCR 1244(1999), or in the exercise of the SRSG's responsibilities under that Resolution."

Is this the document you want to go by, Ian?

Maybe another one.

The Arbitration Commission of the Conference on Yugoslavia (commonly known as Badinter Arbitration Committee) was a commission set up by the Council of Ministers of the European Economic Community on 27 August 1991 to provide the Conference on Yugoslavia with legal advice.

Commision members:

* Robert Badinter, president of the Constitutional Council of France
* Roman Herzog, president of the Federal Constitutional Court of Germany
* Aldo Corasaniti, president of the Constitutional Court of Italy
* Francisco Tomás y Valiente, president of the Constitutional Court of Spain
* Irene Petry, president of the Constitutional Court of Belgium

And they arrived at concusion that republics are the successors of Yugoslavia, naming them:
Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro and Macedonia.

Furthermore:

in Article 5

"(2) A republic’s territory cannot be altered without the consent of that republic..."

Can't rememeber that Republic of Serbia gave its consent for aleration of its borders.

Do you want to go by this?
Probably not. Why would you respect legal oppinion of leading European legal expert when 22 countries of EU don't respect it?
Why would anyone show any respect for any law comming from EU?

No. Seriously, Ian. Enough of this. Albanians like to say that according to Yugoslavian 1974 constitution Kosovo had direct representation on federal level. They only forget to read that in the same constitution Kosovo is integral part of Serbia with wide autonomy.

How about this?
Why don't you hand-pick international legal document regulating these matters, and let's go by that one?

UN Charter, Helsinki Final Act, Montevideo Agreement...
You name it, and let's do it.

Michael R.

pre 13 godina

s there anything strange with this ?? The whole Kosovo is full with people from MUP. Let alone all paid Albanian informants. Its totally natural and nothing strange. Welcome to the intelligence world.
(Staff, 12 June 2010 20:13)

Staff,

I now feel so much more confident knowing with all the MUP in Kosova, they have not been at all successful in being disruptive. It must be all those paid Albanian "informants" that are taking Serbia's cash and laughing all the way to the bank. Serbia has been taken for a ride once again. We thank you for being so naive!

btw, Good luck against a weak Ghana team tomorrow, Serbia is going to need it.

Jason

pre 13 godina

Circumstances aside, suspicious or otherwise, remember that quite a number of MuP Officers actually live in areas of Kosovo and commute daily. Also, its worth noting that if it were not for those MuP officers who perform there duties in Kosovo an awful lot more residents would have to travel beyond the Boundary to satisfy Bureaucratic needs, ie passports etc(all ethnicities).
Blessing in disguise? i think so and so would many others.
(Wee Kelpie, 12 June 2010 17:42)

Excellent point. Many of the MUP officers at Gates 1 and 31 do live in Zvecan, Lesak, Zubin Potok, and KM...

So much for this huge incident Pristina is trying to blow up to draw attention away from their own problems...

Staff

pre 13 godina

Is there anything strange with this ?? The whole Kosovo is full with people from MUP. Let alone all paid Albanian informants. Its totally natural and nothing strange. Welcome to the intelligence world.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

k-albanian "authorities" acting as if they were real authorities! =)

...well, of course, they´re all but real authorities, but ... articles like this one let the usual k-albanian teenager be happy - it let´s them hope that they have a "state"...

perhaps, the man on the "found" documents is one of the unfortunate victims of k-albanian organ-traffic.

...wouldn´t wonder about that.

Wee Kelpie

pre 13 godina

Circumstances aside, suspicious or otherwise, remember that quite a number of MuP Officers actually live in areas of Kosovo and commute daily. Also, its worth noting that if it were not for those MuP officers who perform there duties in Kosovo an awful lot more residents would have to travel beyond the Boundary to satisfy Bureaucratic needs, ie passports etc(all ethnicities).
Blessing in disguise? i think so and so would many others.

raso

pre 13 godina

i can help: antic went over the "border" of kosovo and is now working in south-africa, as team-coach of an existing country ...

xaxaxaxa

i can recomend to the self-declared "police" and "authorities" of the republic of hearts to professionally safe the "evidence" ...

as - even in a sultanat of hearts - the day will come when the "investigation" will be over and what then ???

Rokka

pre 13 godina

Is it just me, but it seems that KPS is becoming more ineffective day by day. At least before they were able to catch serb suspects, albanian suspects, not so much. Nowadays they can't even catch a cold...

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

"Precisely, 1244 allowed police from the SERBIAN PROVINCE of Kosovo, NOT from the INDEPENDENT STATE of Kosovo!

The double standards that you asserted do not come from the Serbian side as it was Pristina that violated 1244 through its UDI in the first place.
(lowe, 11 June 2010 23:17)"

UNSCR 1244 says that Kosovo should have its own police, therefore regardless of Kosovo's independence/ status, Kosovo is to have its own police. This is what UNSCR 1244 says and if I am correct, the Belgrade side religiously praises and honours UNSCR 1244 on a daily basis. Well Belgrade has just violated UNSR 1244 again as police from Serbia have entered and intruded Kosovo, this goes against your mighty UNSCR 1244 and thus against international law if you believe UNSCR 1244 is still in effect. So I ask again, does the Belgrade side support UNSCR 1244 or not? because Belgrade has just violated it again. Serbian double standards.

Also Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 first in 2006. In 2006, Serbia's Constitution unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status by saying it was a Serbian province. Pristina was never asked about this, they were given no say. This violated UNSCR 1244 as it said that both sides must come to an agreement, but Belgrade came to an agreement on its own, which is a violation of UNSCR 1244. So this gave Kosovo no choice but to unilaterally declare independence as Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 in 2006. Serbian double standards.

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

What's there to investigate?
He is in his own country and allowed to be there.
What business he has there is not KPS's business.
(Peggy, 11 June 2010 14:16)

Let me remind you that according to Kumanovo Agreement signed on 09-JUN-1999 that police officer is not allowed to be in what you call "part of his own country". So by all means this is KPS businness.

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

"Hoti said that police were “investigating in order to see what needs to be done next in the case”."

"He added that it was “up to police investigators to find out who Antić is and what he was doing in Kosovo”. "

“We cannot say anything about him until we catch him,”

I, too, did see him. He was riding a grey 2008 Toyota Tacoma with a bunch of polar bears up in the Šar Planina. Hope, that helps.
(Ataman, 11 June 2010 14:31)

Fortunately there are some people who know that part of EULEX mission can be Warehouse Managers, Laundry Service Managers etc who play "important part" in comments side of this B92 professional media.
And those are very "knowledged" in security matters.

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

The thing is that there is nothing that KPS or EULEX can do about the well known fact of the Serbian MUP’s presence in Kosovo and Metohija.
(Biljana, 11 June 2010 19:13)

Oh Yes. This was widely thought in 1999 also but opposite of what "there was nothing they could do" has happened. I hope there is any lesson learned that will apply before it's too late

mms

pre 13 godina

Ian, UK:
Try reading 1244 before spouting on about what you think it says. I have pasted the relevant portions for you below, to show you exactly what 1244 "says" about the presence of Serb police in Kosovo.

1244 provides in relevant part:
The Security Council

* * *

4. Confirms that after the withdrawal an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serb military and police personnel will be permitted to return to Kosovo to perform the functions in accordance with annex 2 (see below);
* * *
9. Decides that the responsibilities of the international security presence to be deployed and acting in Kosovo will include:
(a) Deterring renewed hostilities, maintaining and where necessary enforcing a ceasefire, and ensuring the withdrawal and preventing the return into Kosovo of Federal and Republic military, police and paramilitary forces, except as provided in point 6 of annex 2;
* * *
11. Decides that the main responsibilities of the international civil presence will include:
* * *
(i) Maintaining civil law and order, including establishing local police forces and meanwhile through the deployment of international police personnel to serve in Kosovo;
______________
Points 4 and 5 of Annex 2:
Annex 2
5. Establishment of an interim administration for Kosovo as a part of the international civil presence under which the people of Kosovo can enjoy substantial autonomy within the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, to be decided by the Security Council of the United Nations. The interim administration to provide transitional administration while establishing and overseeing the development of provisional democratic self-governing institutions to ensure conditions for a peaceful and normal life for all inhabitants in Kosovo.
6. After withdrawal, an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serbian personnel will be permitted to return to perform the following functions:
- Liaison with the international civil mission and the international security presence;
- Marking/clearing minefields;
- Maintaining a presence at Serb patrimonial sites;
- Maintaining a presence at key border crossings.

Lenard

pre 13 godina

Ataman,
Did you say polar bears?

Well then surely he must be from Canada!
(Another Canadian Serb, 11 June 2010 16:58) More likely the Serbian O-blast region of Siberia home of the Serbian polka bear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYsfbFtbVhE

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Some don't realize it but Pristina's authority is getting stronger and proliferating north-bound every day." (RKS)

-- No it's not. Stop making things up.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"It is funny how Serbs say that Kosovo's independence is illegal per UNSCR 1244, but they're happy for Serb police to be in the North of Kosovo. Well UNSCR 1244 says that Kosovo should have its own police force, therefore this interruption of Serb police in Northern Kosovo is in violation of UNSCR 1244. Serb double standards! Do you support UNSCR 1244 or not? Serbia already violated UNSCR 1244 in 2006 with their 2006 constitution when they unilaterally said that Kosovo was it's province and thus unilaterally finalising Kosovo's status. Double Standards!

(Ian, UK, 11 June 2010 21:14)"

Precisely, 1244 allowed police from the SERBIAN PROVINCE of Kosovo, NOT from the INDEPENDENT STATE of Kosovo!

The double standards that you asserted do not come from the Serbian side as it was Pristina that violated 1244 through its UDI in the first place.

RKS

pre 13 godina

Sooner or later all Serbian thugs and criminals in the north will face justice. Some don't realize it but Pristina's authority is getting stronger and proliferating north-bound every day.

Time is on Kosovo's side.

johnny-038

pre 13 godina

Again, focus on who lives close-by. We all know the corruption in Serbia (Balkans in general) is outrageous. How about a criminal who had ID made. Cross-border opportunities. Well, the Serbian gov't has helped contribute to all sought of criminal cross border activity. The theory goes: Serbs in N.Mitro would be sympathethic to a MUP officer & his mission(?) So, criminals are smart that get false MUP ID (not a major feat...believe me!) and engage in criminal activity unbeknownst to the local Serb population. Nothing new -the criminals are using the situation to their advantage. No shocker folks, same on the other side. Criminals know no boundries or borders...lol...wake-up! stop the b.s. propaganda and work to you own selfish interest (yes, in this case mutual security interest) Yeah, it's me!

doodah

pre 13 godina

The thing is that there is nothing that KPS or EULEX can do about the well known fact of the Serbian MUP’s presence in Kosovo and Metohija.
(Biljana, 11 June 2010 19:13)
Certainly, Serbia,the great defenders of International law would not be guilty of openly violating it.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

It is funny how Serbs say that Kosovo's independence is illegal per UNSCR 1244, but they're happy for Serb police to be in the North of Kosovo. Well UNSCR 1244 says that Kosovo should have its own police force, therefore this interruption of Serb police in Northern Kosovo is in violation of UNSCR 1244. Serb double standards! Do you support UNSCR 1244 or not? Serbia already violated UNSCR 1244 in 2006 with their 2006 constitution when they unilaterally said that Kosovo was it's province and thus unilaterally finalising Kosovo's status. Double Standards!

Come on Uruguay, you can beat France!

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

And KPS wants to take over from KFOR and UNMIK. Too much sitting in their cars as the speeders flew by let the weight gain slow them down. Or just incompetence. Or both.

Johnny-038

pre 13 godina

Yeah, ok...let me bite...i'll accept your premise of the ID falling (not planted). Well, as long as he was not armed, he can be in Kosova, just like KPS with ID, no firearm can visit Serbia (that's normal it's only job ID). Now for the part of wall, hmm...who lives there or in that vicinity?? hmm...now that's a hell of a lot more interesting (my gift to you),
with Love from NYC.

Biljana

pre 13 godina

It is no secret to anyone that Serbian MUP actively performs its duty in our K&M province.
MUP’s employees never left the province and they are mostly in the North.
As someone already said it over here, it is only a question of time when Serbian Army walks in.
And who knows, maybe even Serbian Army (in civil clothes)is present too?

However, I can feel something fishy when it comes to this particular story.
Firstly, I don’t think our police members in Kosovo use any personal identification cards or
MUP badges, but if so then the identity is false for sure.
Secondly, I doubt that this police member was so stupid(despite so many jokes on their account:))to take his identification police card with while on the duty.

The thing is that there is nothing that KPS or EULEX can do about the well known fact of the Serbian MUP’s presence in Kosovo and Metohija.

toke

pre 13 godina

"This is the same tactic as focusing on the north to draw attention away from crime, corruption, joblessness, and lack of recognition. Sad.
(Jason,"
Wow, another Serb apologists, who is concerned of people that are afraid of the local police and brave rats that flee.

Isnt Serbia falling apart with loans and still somehow screams about Jerusalem? lol common, get real, in a week the guy will be found ;)
Remember he is not the first or last to enter Kosovo.
Many more like him have been cought and confirmed.

Fruskija

pre 13 godina

Albanians and Eulex and all people with PLANS take chalk go to blackboard write this 100 times: there's no Mup, Bia, Vba, Voa in northern Kosovo we're making it up again...... there's no Mup, Bia, Vba, Voa in northern Kosovo we're making it up again....
And then you write this 200 times: I will not be stupid trying to play mind games provoking tension and trouble in north... I will not be stupid trying to play mind games provoking tension and trouble in north......
But if you do you'll have your answers dears like always.
And let us know when you catch Petar Petra Petrovic.

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

BOO HOO, he got away. HAHAHA. What a lie! What are they going to say next - they almost caught james bond, they almost caught osama HAHAHA.

Fruskija

pre 13 godina

I, too, did see him. He was riding a grey 2008 Toyota Tacoma with a bunch of polar bears up in the Šar Planina. Hope, that helps.
(Ataman,


Did you see that guy too? Damn and blast I thought it was too much rakija under starry skied.....

Red_Bandit

pre 13 godina

I find it all too convenient that the only thing unable to remain in this man's pocket after jumping a wall was his MUP card.
(Mike, 11 June 2010 16:32)

ya exactly, kinda like the only thing that survived the 911 plane crashes was the passport of the terrorists.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

They identified the person as Dragiša Antić.


Does anybody know this man???I bet you any $ that serbian MUP will not release any info about him.

svojgazda

pre 13 godina

What a ridiculous, and probably fabricated, story. Who cares what and why he was in N. Mitrovica? He is in his own country, what is the story here? Albaniaks are desperately pulling at straws to create some news, pathetic.

Jason

pre 13 godina

What a ridiculous, and probably fabricated, story. Who cares what and why he was in N. Mitrovica? He is in his own country, what is the story here? Albaniaks are desperately pulling at straws to create some news, pathetic.
(svojgazda, 11 June 2010, 17:09)

Very probable. It is also probable that they are trying desperately to draw attention away from all these arrests of Albanians by EULEX and attempting to divert the attention to Serbs in the north.

This is the same tactic as focusing on the north to draw attention away from crime, corruption, joblessness, and lack of recognition. Sad.

Ratko

pre 13 godina

“He left behind him a Serbian police identification card and a membership card of the Serb Radical Party of war criminal Vojislav Šešelj,” Priština daily Koha Ditore stated.

What a joke!

“Information services and other agencies are gathering information and by giving the documents to Serbian officials through intermediary offices, they will look to see who he is and what is position is, as well as what his mission was,” Hoti said.

His mission was to protect Serbs from occupiers as well as uck terrorists!

PRN

pre 13 godina

"he jumped over a wall of a private house and was able to escape”.

What a coward!!??

He will NOT be jumping/escaping for much longer....rest assure of that...

Those thugs will be placed in prison.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

"Hoti said that police were “investigating in order to see what needs to be done next in the case”."

"He added that it was “up to police investigators to find out who Antić is and what he was doing in Kosovo”. "

“We cannot say anything about him until we catch him,”

I, too, did see him. He was riding a grey 2008 Toyota Tacoma with a bunch of polar bears up in the Šar Planina. Hope, that helps.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

"Hoti said that police were “investigating in order to see what needs to be done next in the case”."

"He added that it was “up to police investigators to find out who Antić is and what he was doing in Kosovo”. "

“We cannot say anything about him until we catch him,”

I, too, did see him. He was riding a grey 2008 Toyota Tacoma with a bunch of polar bears up in the Šar Planina. Hope, that helps.

PRN

pre 13 godina

"he jumped over a wall of a private house and was able to escape”.

What a coward!!??

He will NOT be jumping/escaping for much longer....rest assure of that...

Those thugs will be placed in prison.

Ratko

pre 13 godina

“He left behind him a Serbian police identification card and a membership card of the Serb Radical Party of war criminal Vojislav Šešelj,” Priština daily Koha Ditore stated.

What a joke!

“Information services and other agencies are gathering information and by giving the documents to Serbian officials through intermediary offices, they will look to see who he is and what is position is, as well as what his mission was,” Hoti said.

His mission was to protect Serbs from occupiers as well as uck terrorists!

Jason

pre 13 godina

What a ridiculous, and probably fabricated, story. Who cares what and why he was in N. Mitrovica? He is in his own country, what is the story here? Albaniaks are desperately pulling at straws to create some news, pathetic.
(svojgazda, 11 June 2010, 17:09)

Very probable. It is also probable that they are trying desperately to draw attention away from all these arrests of Albanians by EULEX and attempting to divert the attention to Serbs in the north.

This is the same tactic as focusing on the north to draw attention away from crime, corruption, joblessness, and lack of recognition. Sad.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

It is funny how Serbs say that Kosovo's independence is illegal per UNSCR 1244, but they're happy for Serb police to be in the North of Kosovo. Well UNSCR 1244 says that Kosovo should have its own police force, therefore this interruption of Serb police in Northern Kosovo is in violation of UNSCR 1244. Serb double standards! Do you support UNSCR 1244 or not? Serbia already violated UNSCR 1244 in 2006 with their 2006 constitution when they unilaterally said that Kosovo was it's province and thus unilaterally finalising Kosovo's status. Double Standards!

Come on Uruguay, you can beat France!

Biljana

pre 13 godina

It is no secret to anyone that Serbian MUP actively performs its duty in our K&M province.
MUP’s employees never left the province and they are mostly in the North.
As someone already said it over here, it is only a question of time when Serbian Army walks in.
And who knows, maybe even Serbian Army (in civil clothes)is present too?

However, I can feel something fishy when it comes to this particular story.
Firstly, I don’t think our police members in Kosovo use any personal identification cards or
MUP badges, but if so then the identity is false for sure.
Secondly, I doubt that this police member was so stupid(despite so many jokes on their account:))to take his identification police card with while on the duty.

The thing is that there is nothing that KPS or EULEX can do about the well known fact of the Serbian MUP’s presence in Kosovo and Metohija.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

They identified the person as Dragiša Antić.


Does anybody know this man???I bet you any $ that serbian MUP will not release any info about him.

Fruskija

pre 13 godina

I, too, did see him. He was riding a grey 2008 Toyota Tacoma with a bunch of polar bears up in the Šar Planina. Hope, that helps.
(Ataman,


Did you see that guy too? Damn and blast I thought it was too much rakija under starry skied.....

Red_Bandit

pre 13 godina

I find it all too convenient that the only thing unable to remain in this man's pocket after jumping a wall was his MUP card.
(Mike, 11 June 2010 16:32)

ya exactly, kinda like the only thing that survived the 911 plane crashes was the passport of the terrorists.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"It is funny how Serbs say that Kosovo's independence is illegal per UNSCR 1244, but they're happy for Serb police to be in the North of Kosovo. Well UNSCR 1244 says that Kosovo should have its own police force, therefore this interruption of Serb police in Northern Kosovo is in violation of UNSCR 1244. Serb double standards! Do you support UNSCR 1244 or not? Serbia already violated UNSCR 1244 in 2006 with their 2006 constitution when they unilaterally said that Kosovo was it's province and thus unilaterally finalising Kosovo's status. Double Standards!

(Ian, UK, 11 June 2010 21:14)"

Precisely, 1244 allowed police from the SERBIAN PROVINCE of Kosovo, NOT from the INDEPENDENT STATE of Kosovo!

The double standards that you asserted do not come from the Serbian side as it was Pristina that violated 1244 through its UDI in the first place.

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

BOO HOO, he got away. HAHAHA. What a lie! What are they going to say next - they almost caught james bond, they almost caught osama HAHAHA.

svojgazda

pre 13 godina

What a ridiculous, and probably fabricated, story. Who cares what and why he was in N. Mitrovica? He is in his own country, what is the story here? Albaniaks are desperately pulling at straws to create some news, pathetic.

Sreten

pre 13 godina

To Ian, UK.

To stop the story about violations of UN 1244.
I wouldn't mind this resolutions being followed to the last point, with harsh punishment for all the violators.
Would you?
You have to stop reading documents partially.
By UN 1244 Serbian police should not be there...
No, it shouldn't. Serbian Army should be there in some parts of Kosovo.
And by the way Kosovo should not be independent.
Would you like some other document?
Here is the nice one.
Constitutional Framework for Provisional Self-Government in Kosovo promulgated on May 15, 2001 by the Special Representative of the Secretary-General, Hans Haekkerup.

http://www.unmikonline.org/constframework.htm

It also states that entire territory of Kosovo should be governed by Provisional Self-Government in Pristina.

Oops!

""...should not in any way affect or diminish the ultimate authority of UN..."

"...does not affect the status that will be determined in UNSC..."

UN never did, as far as I remember.

Document also reserves some right to international representatives (UN)

"(m) Concluding agreements with states and international organizations in all matters within the scope of UNSCR 1244 (1999); "

or

"(o) External relations, including with states and international organisations, as may be necessary for the implementation of his mandate."

And the right to

""(b) Dissolving the assembly and calling for new elections in circumstances where the Provisional Institutions of Self-Government are deemed to act in a manner which is not in conformity with UNSCR 1244(1999), or in the exercise of the SRSG's responsibilities under that Resolution."

Is this the document you want to go by, Ian?

Maybe another one.

The Arbitration Commission of the Conference on Yugoslavia (commonly known as Badinter Arbitration Committee) was a commission set up by the Council of Ministers of the European Economic Community on 27 August 1991 to provide the Conference on Yugoslavia with legal advice.

Commision members:

* Robert Badinter, president of the Constitutional Council of France
* Roman Herzog, president of the Federal Constitutional Court of Germany
* Aldo Corasaniti, president of the Constitutional Court of Italy
* Francisco Tomás y Valiente, president of the Constitutional Court of Spain
* Irene Petry, president of the Constitutional Court of Belgium

And they arrived at concusion that republics are the successors of Yugoslavia, naming them:
Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro and Macedonia.

Furthermore:

in Article 5

"(2) A republic’s territory cannot be altered without the consent of that republic..."

Can't rememeber that Republic of Serbia gave its consent for aleration of its borders.

Do you want to go by this?
Probably not. Why would you respect legal oppinion of leading European legal expert when 22 countries of EU don't respect it?
Why would anyone show any respect for any law comming from EU?

No. Seriously, Ian. Enough of this. Albanians like to say that according to Yugoslavian 1974 constitution Kosovo had direct representation on federal level. They only forget to read that in the same constitution Kosovo is integral part of Serbia with wide autonomy.

How about this?
Why don't you hand-pick international legal document regulating these matters, and let's go by that one?

UN Charter, Helsinki Final Act, Montevideo Agreement...
You name it, and let's do it.

toke

pre 13 godina

"This is the same tactic as focusing on the north to draw attention away from crime, corruption, joblessness, and lack of recognition. Sad.
(Jason,"
Wow, another Serb apologists, who is concerned of people that are afraid of the local police and brave rats that flee.

Isnt Serbia falling apart with loans and still somehow screams about Jerusalem? lol common, get real, in a week the guy will be found ;)
Remember he is not the first or last to enter Kosovo.
Many more like him have been cought and confirmed.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

"Precisely, 1244 allowed police from the SERBIAN PROVINCE of Kosovo, NOT from the INDEPENDENT STATE of Kosovo!

The double standards that you asserted do not come from the Serbian side as it was Pristina that violated 1244 through its UDI in the first place.
(lowe, 11 June 2010 23:17)"

UNSCR 1244 says that Kosovo should have its own police, therefore regardless of Kosovo's independence/ status, Kosovo is to have its own police. This is what UNSCR 1244 says and if I am correct, the Belgrade side religiously praises and honours UNSCR 1244 on a daily basis. Well Belgrade has just violated UNSR 1244 again as police from Serbia have entered and intruded Kosovo, this goes against your mighty UNSCR 1244 and thus against international law if you believe UNSCR 1244 is still in effect. So I ask again, does the Belgrade side support UNSCR 1244 or not? because Belgrade has just violated it again. Serbian double standards.

Also Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 first in 2006. In 2006, Serbia's Constitution unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status by saying it was a Serbian province. Pristina was never asked about this, they were given no say. This violated UNSCR 1244 as it said that both sides must come to an agreement, but Belgrade came to an agreement on its own, which is a violation of UNSCR 1244. So this gave Kosovo no choice but to unilaterally declare independence as Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 in 2006. Serbian double standards.

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

And KPS wants to take over from KFOR and UNMIK. Too much sitting in their cars as the speeders flew by let the weight gain slow them down. Or just incompetence. Or both.

doodah

pre 13 godina

The thing is that there is nothing that KPS or EULEX can do about the well known fact of the Serbian MUP’s presence in Kosovo and Metohija.
(Biljana, 11 June 2010 19:13)
Certainly, Serbia,the great defenders of International law would not be guilty of openly violating it.

RKS

pre 13 godina

Sooner or later all Serbian thugs and criminals in the north will face justice. Some don't realize it but Pristina's authority is getting stronger and proliferating north-bound every day.

Time is on Kosovo's side.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Some don't realize it but Pristina's authority is getting stronger and proliferating north-bound every day." (RKS)

-- No it's not. Stop making things up.

Fruskija

pre 13 godina

Albanians and Eulex and all people with PLANS take chalk go to blackboard write this 100 times: there's no Mup, Bia, Vba, Voa in northern Kosovo we're making it up again...... there's no Mup, Bia, Vba, Voa in northern Kosovo we're making it up again....
And then you write this 200 times: I will not be stupid trying to play mind games provoking tension and trouble in north... I will not be stupid trying to play mind games provoking tension and trouble in north......
But if you do you'll have your answers dears like always.
And let us know when you catch Petar Petra Petrovic.

Johnny-038

pre 13 godina

Yeah, ok...let me bite...i'll accept your premise of the ID falling (not planted). Well, as long as he was not armed, he can be in Kosova, just like KPS with ID, no firearm can visit Serbia (that's normal it's only job ID). Now for the part of wall, hmm...who lives there or in that vicinity?? hmm...now that's a hell of a lot more interesting (my gift to you),
with Love from NYC.

Jason

pre 13 godina

Circumstances aside, suspicious or otherwise, remember that quite a number of MuP Officers actually live in areas of Kosovo and commute daily. Also, its worth noting that if it were not for those MuP officers who perform there duties in Kosovo an awful lot more residents would have to travel beyond the Boundary to satisfy Bureaucratic needs, ie passports etc(all ethnicities).
Blessing in disguise? i think so and so would many others.
(Wee Kelpie, 12 June 2010 17:42)

Excellent point. Many of the MUP officers at Gates 1 and 31 do live in Zvecan, Lesak, Zubin Potok, and KM...

So much for this huge incident Pristina is trying to blow up to draw attention away from their own problems...

lowe

pre 13 godina

"UNSCR 1244 says that Kosovo should have its own police, therefore regardless of Kosovo's independence/ status, Kosovo is to have its own police. This is what UNSCR 1244 says and if I am correct, the Belgrade side religiously praises and honours UNSCR 1244 on a daily basis. Well Belgrade has just violated UNSR 1244 again as police from Serbia have entered and intruded Kosovo, this goes against your mighty UNSCR 1244 and thus against international law if you believe UNSCR 1244 is still in effect. So I ask again, does the Belgrade side support UNSCR 1244 or not? because Belgrade has just violated it again. Serbian double standards.

Also Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 first in 2006. In 2006, Serbia's Constitution unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status by saying it was a Serbian province. Pristina was never asked about this, they were given no say. This violated UNSCR 1244 as it said that both sides must come to an agreement, but Belgrade came to an agreement on its own, which is a violation of UNSCR 1244. So this gave Kosovo no choice but to unilaterally declare independence as Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 in 2006. Serbian double standards.
(Ian, UK, 12 June 2010 08:59) "

You don't get my point at all. Let me try again ......

1244 applies to the PEROVINCE of Kosovo, NOT to the STATE of Kosovo that Pristina now claims to be.

Under 1244, the PROVINCE of Kosovo can have its own police, etc. This so-called STATE of Kosovo cannot have its own police under 1244. The "STATE" of Kosovo is a non-entity as far as 1244 is concerned.

Lenard

pre 13 godina

Ataman,
Did you say polar bears?

Well then surely he must be from Canada!
(Another Canadian Serb, 11 June 2010 16:58) More likely the Serbian O-blast region of Siberia home of the Serbian polka bear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYsfbFtbVhE

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

"Hoti said that police were “investigating in order to see what needs to be done next in the case”."

"He added that it was “up to police investigators to find out who Antić is and what he was doing in Kosovo”. "

“We cannot say anything about him until we catch him,”

I, too, did see him. He was riding a grey 2008 Toyota Tacoma with a bunch of polar bears up in the Šar Planina. Hope, that helps.
(Ataman, 11 June 2010 14:31)

Fortunately there are some people who know that part of EULEX mission can be Warehouse Managers, Laundry Service Managers etc who play "important part" in comments side of this B92 professional media.
And those are very "knowledged" in security matters.

raso

pre 13 godina

i can help: antic went over the "border" of kosovo and is now working in south-africa, as team-coach of an existing country ...

xaxaxaxa

i can recomend to the self-declared "police" and "authorities" of the republic of hearts to professionally safe the "evidence" ...

as - even in a sultanat of hearts - the day will come when the "investigation" will be over and what then ???

johnny-038

pre 13 godina

Again, focus on who lives close-by. We all know the corruption in Serbia (Balkans in general) is outrageous. How about a criminal who had ID made. Cross-border opportunities. Well, the Serbian gov't has helped contribute to all sought of criminal cross border activity. The theory goes: Serbs in N.Mitro would be sympathethic to a MUP officer & his mission(?) So, criminals are smart that get false MUP ID (not a major feat...believe me!) and engage in criminal activity unbeknownst to the local Serb population. Nothing new -the criminals are using the situation to their advantage. No shocker folks, same on the other side. Criminals know no boundries or borders...lol...wake-up! stop the b.s. propaganda and work to you own selfish interest (yes, in this case mutual security interest) Yeah, it's me!

mms

pre 13 godina

Ian, UK:
Try reading 1244 before spouting on about what you think it says. I have pasted the relevant portions for you below, to show you exactly what 1244 "says" about the presence of Serb police in Kosovo.

1244 provides in relevant part:
The Security Council

* * *

4. Confirms that after the withdrawal an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serb military and police personnel will be permitted to return to Kosovo to perform the functions in accordance with annex 2 (see below);
* * *
9. Decides that the responsibilities of the international security presence to be deployed and acting in Kosovo will include:
(a) Deterring renewed hostilities, maintaining and where necessary enforcing a ceasefire, and ensuring the withdrawal and preventing the return into Kosovo of Federal and Republic military, police and paramilitary forces, except as provided in point 6 of annex 2;
* * *
11. Decides that the main responsibilities of the international civil presence will include:
* * *
(i) Maintaining civil law and order, including establishing local police forces and meanwhile through the deployment of international police personnel to serve in Kosovo;
______________
Points 4 and 5 of Annex 2:
Annex 2
5. Establishment of an interim administration for Kosovo as a part of the international civil presence under which the people of Kosovo can enjoy substantial autonomy within the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, to be decided by the Security Council of the United Nations. The interim administration to provide transitional administration while establishing and overseeing the development of provisional democratic self-governing institutions to ensure conditions for a peaceful and normal life for all inhabitants in Kosovo.
6. After withdrawal, an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serbian personnel will be permitted to return to perform the following functions:
- Liaison with the international civil mission and the international security presence;
- Marking/clearing minefields;
- Maintaining a presence at Serb patrimonial sites;
- Maintaining a presence at key border crossings.

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

What's there to investigate?
He is in his own country and allowed to be there.
What business he has there is not KPS's business.
(Peggy, 11 June 2010 14:16)

Let me remind you that according to Kumanovo Agreement signed on 09-JUN-1999 that police officer is not allowed to be in what you call "part of his own country". So by all means this is KPS businness.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

k-albanian "authorities" acting as if they were real authorities! =)

...well, of course, they´re all but real authorities, but ... articles like this one let the usual k-albanian teenager be happy - it let´s them hope that they have a "state"...

perhaps, the man on the "found" documents is one of the unfortunate victims of k-albanian organ-traffic.

...wouldn´t wonder about that.

Staff

pre 13 godina

Is there anything strange with this ?? The whole Kosovo is full with people from MUP. Let alone all paid Albanian informants. Its totally natural and nothing strange. Welcome to the intelligence world.

Rokka

pre 13 godina

Is it just me, but it seems that KPS is becoming more ineffective day by day. At least before they were able to catch serb suspects, albanian suspects, not so much. Nowadays they can't even catch a cold...

lowe

pre 13 godina

"I now feel so much more confident knowing with all the MUP in Kosova, they have not been at all successful in being disruptive. It must be all those paid Albanian "informants" that are taking Serbia's cash and laughing all the way to the bank. Serbia has been taken for a ride once again. We thank you for being so naive!

btw, Good luck against a weak Ghana team tomorrow, Serbia is going to need it.
(Michael R., 12 June 2010 22:30) "

Isn't your confidence misplaced? The best Pristina's people could do was find (or claimed to have found) some ID documents ...... something like eating a chicken pie without the chicken ......

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

The thing is that there is nothing that KPS or EULEX can do about the well known fact of the Serbian MUP’s presence in Kosovo and Metohija.
(Biljana, 11 June 2010 19:13)

Oh Yes. This was widely thought in 1999 also but opposite of what "there was nothing they could do" has happened. I hope there is any lesson learned that will apply before it's too late

Wee Kelpie

pre 13 godina

Circumstances aside, suspicious or otherwise, remember that quite a number of MuP Officers actually live in areas of Kosovo and commute daily. Also, its worth noting that if it were not for those MuP officers who perform there duties in Kosovo an awful lot more residents would have to travel beyond the Boundary to satisfy Bureaucratic needs, ie passports etc(all ethnicities).
Blessing in disguise? i think so and so would many others.

Michael R.

pre 13 godina

s there anything strange with this ?? The whole Kosovo is full with people from MUP. Let alone all paid Albanian informants. Its totally natural and nothing strange. Welcome to the intelligence world.
(Staff, 12 June 2010 20:13)

Staff,

I now feel so much more confident knowing with all the MUP in Kosova, they have not been at all successful in being disruptive. It must be all those paid Albanian "informants" that are taking Serbia's cash and laughing all the way to the bank. Serbia has been taken for a ride once again. We thank you for being so naive!

btw, Good luck against a weak Ghana team tomorrow, Serbia is going to need it.

UK

pre 13 godina

bad week for serbia.1 ilegal serb in sweden another 1 in kosovo.is time to clean europe from this primitive ilegals immigrants.
(northampton, 11 June 2010 20:26)

Judging by your appalling spelling and even worse grammar you are probably not from Northampton in UK as your name would suggest. Two comments to aim at your bigoted statement. 1. Serb police officer in a province of Serbia..not exactly news is it? 2.Even if you take the view that a Serb police officer should not be in a province of Serbia then think about the probability of the only thing that he would leave behind being the one thing that could positively identify him...probability is next to zero. All in all this sounds to me like a non story at best and a fabricated story at worst. To call him a primitive illegal immigrant (or primitive ilegals immigrants as you prefer to say!) only serves to highlight your inherent anti Serb mentality and as such your skewed perspective on this so called news story. How about we focus on the real news and the facts for a change? Thanks

PRN

pre 13 godina

"he jumped over a wall of a private house and was able to escape”.

What a coward!!??

He will NOT be jumping/escaping for much longer....rest assure of that...

Those thugs will be placed in prison.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

"Hoti said that police were “investigating in order to see what needs to be done next in the case”."

"He added that it was “up to police investigators to find out who Antić is and what he was doing in Kosovo”. "

“We cannot say anything about him until we catch him,”

I, too, did see him. He was riding a grey 2008 Toyota Tacoma with a bunch of polar bears up in the Šar Planina. Hope, that helps.

Ratko

pre 13 godina

“He left behind him a Serbian police identification card and a membership card of the Serb Radical Party of war criminal Vojislav Šešelj,” Priština daily Koha Ditore stated.

What a joke!

“Information services and other agencies are gathering information and by giving the documents to Serbian officials through intermediary offices, they will look to see who he is and what is position is, as well as what his mission was,” Hoti said.

His mission was to protect Serbs from occupiers as well as uck terrorists!

svojgazda

pre 13 godina

What a ridiculous, and probably fabricated, story. Who cares what and why he was in N. Mitrovica? He is in his own country, what is the story here? Albaniaks are desperately pulling at straws to create some news, pathetic.

toke

pre 13 godina

"This is the same tactic as focusing on the north to draw attention away from crime, corruption, joblessness, and lack of recognition. Sad.
(Jason,"
Wow, another Serb apologists, who is concerned of people that are afraid of the local police and brave rats that flee.

Isnt Serbia falling apart with loans and still somehow screams about Jerusalem? lol common, get real, in a week the guy will be found ;)
Remember he is not the first or last to enter Kosovo.
Many more like him have been cought and confirmed.

Jason

pre 13 godina

What a ridiculous, and probably fabricated, story. Who cares what and why he was in N. Mitrovica? He is in his own country, what is the story here? Albaniaks are desperately pulling at straws to create some news, pathetic.
(svojgazda, 11 June 2010, 17:09)

Very probable. It is also probable that they are trying desperately to draw attention away from all these arrests of Albanians by EULEX and attempting to divert the attention to Serbs in the north.

This is the same tactic as focusing on the north to draw attention away from crime, corruption, joblessness, and lack of recognition. Sad.

RKS

pre 13 godina

Sooner or later all Serbian thugs and criminals in the north will face justice. Some don't realize it but Pristina's authority is getting stronger and proliferating north-bound every day.

Time is on Kosovo's side.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

They identified the person as Dragiša Antić.


Does anybody know this man???I bet you any $ that serbian MUP will not release any info about him.

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

BOO HOO, he got away. HAHAHA. What a lie! What are they going to say next - they almost caught james bond, they almost caught osama HAHAHA.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"It is funny how Serbs say that Kosovo's independence is illegal per UNSCR 1244, but they're happy for Serb police to be in the North of Kosovo. Well UNSCR 1244 says that Kosovo should have its own police force, therefore this interruption of Serb police in Northern Kosovo is in violation of UNSCR 1244. Serb double standards! Do you support UNSCR 1244 or not? Serbia already violated UNSCR 1244 in 2006 with their 2006 constitution when they unilaterally said that Kosovo was it's province and thus unilaterally finalising Kosovo's status. Double Standards!

(Ian, UK, 11 June 2010 21:14)"

Precisely, 1244 allowed police from the SERBIAN PROVINCE of Kosovo, NOT from the INDEPENDENT STATE of Kosovo!

The double standards that you asserted do not come from the Serbian side as it was Pristina that violated 1244 through its UDI in the first place.

Biljana

pre 13 godina

It is no secret to anyone that Serbian MUP actively performs its duty in our K&M province.
MUP’s employees never left the province and they are mostly in the North.
As someone already said it over here, it is only a question of time when Serbian Army walks in.
And who knows, maybe even Serbian Army (in civil clothes)is present too?

However, I can feel something fishy when it comes to this particular story.
Firstly, I don’t think our police members in Kosovo use any personal identification cards or
MUP badges, but if so then the identity is false for sure.
Secondly, I doubt that this police member was so stupid(despite so many jokes on their account:))to take his identification police card with while on the duty.

The thing is that there is nothing that KPS or EULEX can do about the well known fact of the Serbian MUP’s presence in Kosovo and Metohija.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

It is funny how Serbs say that Kosovo's independence is illegal per UNSCR 1244, but they're happy for Serb police to be in the North of Kosovo. Well UNSCR 1244 says that Kosovo should have its own police force, therefore this interruption of Serb police in Northern Kosovo is in violation of UNSCR 1244. Serb double standards! Do you support UNSCR 1244 or not? Serbia already violated UNSCR 1244 in 2006 with their 2006 constitution when they unilaterally said that Kosovo was it's province and thus unilaterally finalising Kosovo's status. Double Standards!

Come on Uruguay, you can beat France!

doodah

pre 13 godina

The thing is that there is nothing that KPS or EULEX can do about the well known fact of the Serbian MUP’s presence in Kosovo and Metohija.
(Biljana, 11 June 2010 19:13)
Certainly, Serbia,the great defenders of International law would not be guilty of openly violating it.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

"Precisely, 1244 allowed police from the SERBIAN PROVINCE of Kosovo, NOT from the INDEPENDENT STATE of Kosovo!

The double standards that you asserted do not come from the Serbian side as it was Pristina that violated 1244 through its UDI in the first place.
(lowe, 11 June 2010 23:17)"

UNSCR 1244 says that Kosovo should have its own police, therefore regardless of Kosovo's independence/ status, Kosovo is to have its own police. This is what UNSCR 1244 says and if I am correct, the Belgrade side religiously praises and honours UNSCR 1244 on a daily basis. Well Belgrade has just violated UNSR 1244 again as police from Serbia have entered and intruded Kosovo, this goes against your mighty UNSCR 1244 and thus against international law if you believe UNSCR 1244 is still in effect. So I ask again, does the Belgrade side support UNSCR 1244 or not? because Belgrade has just violated it again. Serbian double standards.

Also Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 first in 2006. In 2006, Serbia's Constitution unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status by saying it was a Serbian province. Pristina was never asked about this, they were given no say. This violated UNSCR 1244 as it said that both sides must come to an agreement, but Belgrade came to an agreement on its own, which is a violation of UNSCR 1244. So this gave Kosovo no choice but to unilaterally declare independence as Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 in 2006. Serbian double standards.

Michael R.

pre 13 godina

s there anything strange with this ?? The whole Kosovo is full with people from MUP. Let alone all paid Albanian informants. Its totally natural and nothing strange. Welcome to the intelligence world.
(Staff, 12 June 2010 20:13)

Staff,

I now feel so much more confident knowing with all the MUP in Kosova, they have not been at all successful in being disruptive. It must be all those paid Albanian "informants" that are taking Serbia's cash and laughing all the way to the bank. Serbia has been taken for a ride once again. We thank you for being so naive!

btw, Good luck against a weak Ghana team tomorrow, Serbia is going to need it.

Johnny-038

pre 13 godina

Yeah, ok...let me bite...i'll accept your premise of the ID falling (not planted). Well, as long as he was not armed, he can be in Kosova, just like KPS with ID, no firearm can visit Serbia (that's normal it's only job ID). Now for the part of wall, hmm...who lives there or in that vicinity?? hmm...now that's a hell of a lot more interesting (my gift to you),
with Love from NYC.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Some don't realize it but Pristina's authority is getting stronger and proliferating north-bound every day." (RKS)

-- No it's not. Stop making things up.

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

And KPS wants to take over from KFOR and UNMIK. Too much sitting in their cars as the speeders flew by let the weight gain slow them down. Or just incompetence. Or both.

Rokka

pre 13 godina

Is it just me, but it seems that KPS is becoming more ineffective day by day. At least before they were able to catch serb suspects, albanian suspects, not so much. Nowadays they can't even catch a cold...

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

What's there to investigate?
He is in his own country and allowed to be there.
What business he has there is not KPS's business.
(Peggy, 11 June 2010 14:16)

Let me remind you that according to Kumanovo Agreement signed on 09-JUN-1999 that police officer is not allowed to be in what you call "part of his own country". So by all means this is KPS businness.

raso

pre 13 godina

i can help: antic went over the "border" of kosovo and is now working in south-africa, as team-coach of an existing country ...

xaxaxaxa

i can recomend to the self-declared "police" and "authorities" of the republic of hearts to professionally safe the "evidence" ...

as - even in a sultanat of hearts - the day will come when the "investigation" will be over and what then ???

Jovan

pre 13 godina

k-albanian "authorities" acting as if they were real authorities! =)

...well, of course, they´re all but real authorities, but ... articles like this one let the usual k-albanian teenager be happy - it let´s them hope that they have a "state"...

perhaps, the man on the "found" documents is one of the unfortunate victims of k-albanian organ-traffic.

...wouldn´t wonder about that.

johnny-038

pre 13 godina

Again, focus on who lives close-by. We all know the corruption in Serbia (Balkans in general) is outrageous. How about a criminal who had ID made. Cross-border opportunities. Well, the Serbian gov't has helped contribute to all sought of criminal cross border activity. The theory goes: Serbs in N.Mitro would be sympathethic to a MUP officer & his mission(?) So, criminals are smart that get false MUP ID (not a major feat...believe me!) and engage in criminal activity unbeknownst to the local Serb population. Nothing new -the criminals are using the situation to their advantage. No shocker folks, same on the other side. Criminals know no boundries or borders...lol...wake-up! stop the b.s. propaganda and work to you own selfish interest (yes, in this case mutual security interest) Yeah, it's me!

Red_Bandit

pre 13 godina

I find it all too convenient that the only thing unable to remain in this man's pocket after jumping a wall was his MUP card.
(Mike, 11 June 2010 16:32)

ya exactly, kinda like the only thing that survived the 911 plane crashes was the passport of the terrorists.

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

The thing is that there is nothing that KPS or EULEX can do about the well known fact of the Serbian MUP’s presence in Kosovo and Metohija.
(Biljana, 11 June 2010 19:13)

Oh Yes. This was widely thought in 1999 also but opposite of what "there was nothing they could do" has happened. I hope there is any lesson learned that will apply before it's too late

Lenard

pre 13 godina

Ataman,
Did you say polar bears?

Well then surely he must be from Canada!
(Another Canadian Serb, 11 June 2010 16:58) More likely the Serbian O-blast region of Siberia home of the Serbian polka bear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYsfbFtbVhE

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

"Hoti said that police were “investigating in order to see what needs to be done next in the case”."

"He added that it was “up to police investigators to find out who Antić is and what he was doing in Kosovo”. "

“We cannot say anything about him until we catch him,”

I, too, did see him. He was riding a grey 2008 Toyota Tacoma with a bunch of polar bears up in the Šar Planina. Hope, that helps.
(Ataman, 11 June 2010 14:31)

Fortunately there are some people who know that part of EULEX mission can be Warehouse Managers, Laundry Service Managers etc who play "important part" in comments side of this B92 professional media.
And those are very "knowledged" in security matters.

Staff

pre 13 godina

Is there anything strange with this ?? The whole Kosovo is full with people from MUP. Let alone all paid Albanian informants. Its totally natural and nothing strange. Welcome to the intelligence world.

Fruskija

pre 13 godina

I, too, did see him. He was riding a grey 2008 Toyota Tacoma with a bunch of polar bears up in the Šar Planina. Hope, that helps.
(Ataman,


Did you see that guy too? Damn and blast I thought it was too much rakija under starry skied.....

mms

pre 13 godina

Ian, UK:
Try reading 1244 before spouting on about what you think it says. I have pasted the relevant portions for you below, to show you exactly what 1244 "says" about the presence of Serb police in Kosovo.

1244 provides in relevant part:
The Security Council

* * *

4. Confirms that after the withdrawal an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serb military and police personnel will be permitted to return to Kosovo to perform the functions in accordance with annex 2 (see below);
* * *
9. Decides that the responsibilities of the international security presence to be deployed and acting in Kosovo will include:
(a) Deterring renewed hostilities, maintaining and where necessary enforcing a ceasefire, and ensuring the withdrawal and preventing the return into Kosovo of Federal and Republic military, police and paramilitary forces, except as provided in point 6 of annex 2;
* * *
11. Decides that the main responsibilities of the international civil presence will include:
* * *
(i) Maintaining civil law and order, including establishing local police forces and meanwhile through the deployment of international police personnel to serve in Kosovo;
______________
Points 4 and 5 of Annex 2:
Annex 2
5. Establishment of an interim administration for Kosovo as a part of the international civil presence under which the people of Kosovo can enjoy substantial autonomy within the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, to be decided by the Security Council of the United Nations. The interim administration to provide transitional administration while establishing and overseeing the development of provisional democratic self-governing institutions to ensure conditions for a peaceful and normal life for all inhabitants in Kosovo.
6. After withdrawal, an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serbian personnel will be permitted to return to perform the following functions:
- Liaison with the international civil mission and the international security presence;
- Marking/clearing minefields;
- Maintaining a presence at Serb patrimonial sites;
- Maintaining a presence at key border crossings.

Fruskija

pre 13 godina

Albanians and Eulex and all people with PLANS take chalk go to blackboard write this 100 times: there's no Mup, Bia, Vba, Voa in northern Kosovo we're making it up again...... there's no Mup, Bia, Vba, Voa in northern Kosovo we're making it up again....
And then you write this 200 times: I will not be stupid trying to play mind games provoking tension and trouble in north... I will not be stupid trying to play mind games provoking tension and trouble in north......
But if you do you'll have your answers dears like always.
And let us know when you catch Petar Petra Petrovic.

Jason

pre 13 godina

Circumstances aside, suspicious or otherwise, remember that quite a number of MuP Officers actually live in areas of Kosovo and commute daily. Also, its worth noting that if it were not for those MuP officers who perform there duties in Kosovo an awful lot more residents would have to travel beyond the Boundary to satisfy Bureaucratic needs, ie passports etc(all ethnicities).
Blessing in disguise? i think so and so would many others.
(Wee Kelpie, 12 June 2010 17:42)

Excellent point. Many of the MUP officers at Gates 1 and 31 do live in Zvecan, Lesak, Zubin Potok, and KM...

So much for this huge incident Pristina is trying to blow up to draw attention away from their own problems...

Sreten

pre 13 godina

To Ian, UK.

To stop the story about violations of UN 1244.
I wouldn't mind this resolutions being followed to the last point, with harsh punishment for all the violators.
Would you?
You have to stop reading documents partially.
By UN 1244 Serbian police should not be there...
No, it shouldn't. Serbian Army should be there in some parts of Kosovo.
And by the way Kosovo should not be independent.
Would you like some other document?
Here is the nice one.
Constitutional Framework for Provisional Self-Government in Kosovo promulgated on May 15, 2001 by the Special Representative of the Secretary-General, Hans Haekkerup.

http://www.unmikonline.org/constframework.htm

It also states that entire territory of Kosovo should be governed by Provisional Self-Government in Pristina.

Oops!

""...should not in any way affect or diminish the ultimate authority of UN..."

"...does not affect the status that will be determined in UNSC..."

UN never did, as far as I remember.

Document also reserves some right to international representatives (UN)

"(m) Concluding agreements with states and international organizations in all matters within the scope of UNSCR 1244 (1999); "

or

"(o) External relations, including with states and international organisations, as may be necessary for the implementation of his mandate."

And the right to

""(b) Dissolving the assembly and calling for new elections in circumstances where the Provisional Institutions of Self-Government are deemed to act in a manner which is not in conformity with UNSCR 1244(1999), or in the exercise of the SRSG's responsibilities under that Resolution."

Is this the document you want to go by, Ian?

Maybe another one.

The Arbitration Commission of the Conference on Yugoslavia (commonly known as Badinter Arbitration Committee) was a commission set up by the Council of Ministers of the European Economic Community on 27 August 1991 to provide the Conference on Yugoslavia with legal advice.

Commision members:

* Robert Badinter, president of the Constitutional Council of France
* Roman Herzog, president of the Federal Constitutional Court of Germany
* Aldo Corasaniti, president of the Constitutional Court of Italy
* Francisco Tomás y Valiente, president of the Constitutional Court of Spain
* Irene Petry, president of the Constitutional Court of Belgium

And they arrived at concusion that republics are the successors of Yugoslavia, naming them:
Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro and Macedonia.

Furthermore:

in Article 5

"(2) A republic’s territory cannot be altered without the consent of that republic..."

Can't rememeber that Republic of Serbia gave its consent for aleration of its borders.

Do you want to go by this?
Probably not. Why would you respect legal oppinion of leading European legal expert when 22 countries of EU don't respect it?
Why would anyone show any respect for any law comming from EU?

No. Seriously, Ian. Enough of this. Albanians like to say that according to Yugoslavian 1974 constitution Kosovo had direct representation on federal level. They only forget to read that in the same constitution Kosovo is integral part of Serbia with wide autonomy.

How about this?
Why don't you hand-pick international legal document regulating these matters, and let's go by that one?

UN Charter, Helsinki Final Act, Montevideo Agreement...
You name it, and let's do it.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"UNSCR 1244 says that Kosovo should have its own police, therefore regardless of Kosovo's independence/ status, Kosovo is to have its own police. This is what UNSCR 1244 says and if I am correct, the Belgrade side religiously praises and honours UNSCR 1244 on a daily basis. Well Belgrade has just violated UNSR 1244 again as police from Serbia have entered and intruded Kosovo, this goes against your mighty UNSCR 1244 and thus against international law if you believe UNSCR 1244 is still in effect. So I ask again, does the Belgrade side support UNSCR 1244 or not? because Belgrade has just violated it again. Serbian double standards.

Also Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 first in 2006. In 2006, Serbia's Constitution unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status by saying it was a Serbian province. Pristina was never asked about this, they were given no say. This violated UNSCR 1244 as it said that both sides must come to an agreement, but Belgrade came to an agreement on its own, which is a violation of UNSCR 1244. So this gave Kosovo no choice but to unilaterally declare independence as Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 in 2006. Serbian double standards.
(Ian, UK, 12 June 2010 08:59) "

You don't get my point at all. Let me try again ......

1244 applies to the PEROVINCE of Kosovo, NOT to the STATE of Kosovo that Pristina now claims to be.

Under 1244, the PROVINCE of Kosovo can have its own police, etc. This so-called STATE of Kosovo cannot have its own police under 1244. The "STATE" of Kosovo is a non-entity as far as 1244 is concerned.

Wee Kelpie

pre 13 godina

Circumstances aside, suspicious or otherwise, remember that quite a number of MuP Officers actually live in areas of Kosovo and commute daily. Also, its worth noting that if it were not for those MuP officers who perform there duties in Kosovo an awful lot more residents would have to travel beyond the Boundary to satisfy Bureaucratic needs, ie passports etc(all ethnicities).
Blessing in disguise? i think so and so would many others.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"I now feel so much more confident knowing with all the MUP in Kosova, they have not been at all successful in being disruptive. It must be all those paid Albanian "informants" that are taking Serbia's cash and laughing all the way to the bank. Serbia has been taken for a ride once again. We thank you for being so naive!

btw, Good luck against a weak Ghana team tomorrow, Serbia is going to need it.
(Michael R., 12 June 2010 22:30) "

Isn't your confidence misplaced? The best Pristina's people could do was find (or claimed to have found) some ID documents ...... something like eating a chicken pie without the chicken ......

UK

pre 13 godina

bad week for serbia.1 ilegal serb in sweden another 1 in kosovo.is time to clean europe from this primitive ilegals immigrants.
(northampton, 11 June 2010 20:26)

Judging by your appalling spelling and even worse grammar you are probably not from Northampton in UK as your name would suggest. Two comments to aim at your bigoted statement. 1. Serb police officer in a province of Serbia..not exactly news is it? 2.Even if you take the view that a Serb police officer should not be in a province of Serbia then think about the probability of the only thing that he would leave behind being the one thing that could positively identify him...probability is next to zero. All in all this sounds to me like a non story at best and a fabricated story at worst. To call him a primitive illegal immigrant (or primitive ilegals immigrants as you prefer to say!) only serves to highlight your inherent anti Serb mentality and as such your skewed perspective on this so called news story. How about we focus on the real news and the facts for a change? Thanks