Hague: Life sentences for Srebrenica

No, these seven were not convicted of being cooks, or soldiers or for being Serbs. They were convicted of participating in genocide and other crimes against humanity. The court issued its verdict after it considered the testimony of 315 witnesses for the prosecution and the defense, and 5383 exhibits submitted by both sides totalling 87,392 pages. You don't have to read it all. The judges and the lawyers for both sides have already done that. But in case you still have trouble believing it, take a look at the summary of the judgment:

http://www.icty.org/x/cases/popovic/tjug/en/100610summary.pdf

The acts for which these seven individuals were convicted are the most grave crimes in the legal code. The facts of what was done in Srebrenica in the summer of 1995 and the role of these seven officers in those crimes have now been established beyond a reasonable doubt. No amount of shouting will make those facts go away.

Those who choose to go on denying the genocide at Srebrenica are only fooling themselves.

What was their crime?
Were they cooks? or just simple soldiers? or even worse just Serbs?

"Hague: Life sentences for Srebrenica"

Sad that the Hague tribunal doesn't have a death penalty for thugs who commit genocide.

Life sentences against these creeps are appropriate.

Those who choose to go on denying the genocide at Srebrenica are only fooling themselves.
(Jovan R., 10 June 2010 15:24)

thanks, jovan, for this detailed posting. to be honest, i stopped following these specific proceedings. but i always say, thank god for the hague tribunal, as imperfect as it is. look around and you clearly see what sort of "justice" there would have been w/out the hague. esp.ly frm banja luka or blgd, it is always same old, same old.

at least the hague has dealt with some of the "big fish." as for most of the others, they just live out their lives w/impunity. who cares about those events from long ago?

genocide is one particular evil -- its denial quite another. it is the continuation and exploitation of the first, and it allows people, nations to feel better: "we weren't so bad -- they just hate us, that's all." and such thinking predominates, not just here at this site but in many circles. media pushes it, reinforces it, then virtually silences the critics, the intellectual dissidents. so it is all connected.

they have just been uncovering another mass grave in E bosnia, victims of a genocidal campaign long before its climax in july 1995. i guess not enough bodies to make the news here:

thanks again, jovan, and to all those who will not allow the world to forget.

roberto
frisco

The ICTY yet again shows itself as institutionally racist against the serbs, bending and reinterpreting international law to its will.

It never had a shred of evidence against Krstic, his crime basically to just having been in the VRS.

I somehow doubt that this low level of legal expertise will be applied equally to the great powers and their lap dogs. The rules for the powerful are always different than those who are not.

Of course, they are all innocent, and they are only convicted because they are Serbs, and the ICTY is totally biased, and Milosevic was killed in the Hague, and Mladic is a hero who never should be arrested, and no civilians at all have been killed in Sebrenica - and Santa Claus is bringing gifts for all the children in the world.

(*shakehead*)

Drazen Erdemovic was arrested in March 1996, three months after the end of the war in Bosnia. At his initial appearance at The Hague (May 1996), he confessed and pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate with the prosecution.

On 29 Nov 1996, Erdemovic became the first person to be sentenced for a crime against humanity by an international court since the post-WW2 war crimes trials in Nuremberg and Tokyo. He received a relatively lighter sentence because of his low rank, and because of his expression of remorse and willingness to cooperate. Erdemovic has since appeared as one of the witnesses for the prosecution in the cases brought against his superior officers, including Gen. Krstic and the "Srebrenica Seven."

The superior officers have received tougher sentences -- not because they were Serbs, but because of their higher level of responsibility. Those officers were directly involved in planning, organizing and carrying out the Srebrenica genocide. Some of them were also involved in the operation in the late summer and fall of 1995 to hide the bodies of the massacre victims, using heavy equipment to dig up the victims' remains from primary mass grave sites, transporting piles of bodies by truck and reburying them in secondary graves in some 80 different locations.

Franc Kos, like Erdemovic, was one of the low-level shooters, carrying out executions on orders from superior officers. Now that Kos has been arrested and extradited, he will be tried by the War Crimes chamber of the State Court of BiH, which has also tried other low-level war criminals (of all nationalities).

My wife is a Bosnian who lost brothers and cousins at Srebrenica. The day Mladic is convicted will be a great day for her.

I just read in a Dutch newspaper that Croatia has handed over Franc Kos to Bosnia because of his part in the Srebrenica massacre. Kos has both a Slovenian and Bosnian nationality. Kos served in the Bosnian-Serb army. I have a few questions. Why was Kos not sent to The Hague? Is it not OK for the international community to know that apparently non-Serbs also had a big responsibility? Another Croat, Drazen Erdemovic, had been sentenced to five years for his part in killing 1200 Muslims in Srebrenica. Most Serbs get 40 years for killing a much smaller number (this does not mean I agree with the killings). One cannot anything else but double standards and it is about time to tell the real truth about Srebrenica. I am sure that Milosevic's comment that the French secret service was involved bears a lot of truth. But I did not know that Croats served in the Bosnian-Serb army, let alone Bosniaks killing their people.

What happen to International LAW you been talking so much ????Or maybe the law told you to commit those Crimes ! There is no law for lowlifes !

rrustem mustafa 4 years.ramush haradinaj free.agim ceku free.why?

Jovan R, bravo for some good comments with facts. Thank you!

rrustem mustafa 4 years.ramush haradinaj free.agim ceku free.why?
(anonimous, 10 June 2010 21:57)

Easy to explain: they are part of a pretty secretive community with habits/laws where "besa" does mean a lot. This is both good and bad. Good is that Albanians will do everything to keep the word and to accommodate the guest. Bad is that it's easy to interpret this wrongly and it's easy to either intimidate the witnesses or just brain-wash them.

Of course, the crimes were as I believe symmetrical. But a court can't sentence anyone without witnesses. So far there wasn't a single member of KLA who would come forward with a remorse - see besa. And so far there wasn't a single Bosnian fighter doing the same - see Hezbullah.

---

What's this
My wife is a Bosnian who lost brothers and cousins at Srebrenica. The day Mladic is convicted will be a great day for her.
(Gladko, 10 June 2010 21:57)

Wish her that great day coming soon. Condolences to your family.

Yet, no Serb will ever be happy until those a holes like Oric who murdered and terrorized countless Serbs around Srebrenica also are punished instead of being treated like heroes. So, Jovan and others, that's why people feel the way they do. If you cannot understand that than you are no better than all the other fake humanitarians pretending they care about justice for victims.
(Daniel, 11 June 2010 12:47)

This is true - but as I just wrote, no court can issue a verdict based on hearsay. There were Serbian perpetrators who had the remorse and who had the guts to come forward and speak about the crimes they did. These people were not blinded by muslim fundamentalism or by kanuns.

The situation with Bosnian muslim or KLA perpetrators is much more difficult because they are either blinded by the faith or following the traditional set of tribal/clan customs and such acts are unimaginable.

Besides that fact, yes, Hague tribunal seem to be good at handling pretty asymmetrical sentences - but as I did read in some "glorious" sources Croatians complain about the same thing: Croatian perpetrators are sentenced in much higher numbers and given much harsher sentences than the Bosnian-muslim ones. Does anyone believe, Bosnian "mudjaheddins" were soft on Croatian population? Of course, not. But the nature of the beast (and the faith) is such, that while most ex-mudjaheddins sleep like a baby, (ex)ustasha has nightmares daily. It is obvious, who will give up sooner.

Jovan, I believe what most Serbs are angry about is that no murderer of Serbs is ever punished sufficiently. A story was created about the war where Serbs were the bad guys and everyone else the innocent victims. Nobody ever cared to hear the Serb side because it would violate the story's plot line. Once written, it was to be adhered to without question. We all know what happened in the war, and it pales in comparison to the plot line. Far fewer people died than Westerners were made to believe, and as it turns out Bosnian Muslims and Croats also committed horrible crimes, yet they seem to have been and remain above the law, just like Kosovo's Albanians. Why is it that the Hague will admit that some of their suspects did horrible things but there's never sufficient evidence or witnesses to send them to jail. A perfect example is Nasir Oric. We all know about Srebrenica and we know that men and boys died there at the hands of Serbs. We also know that people are being punished for that and those people committing those crimes deserve to go to jail. Yet, no Serb will ever be happy until those a holes like Oric who murdered and terrorized countless Serbs around Srebrenica also are punished instead of being treated like heroes. So, Jovan and others, that's why people feel the way they do. If you cannot understand that than you are no better than all the other fake humanitarians pretending they care about justice for victims.

RE: Genocide?

What is and what is not genocide is not a matter for argument. The crime of genocide was defined by the 1948 Genocide Convention, which you can read here

http://www.hrweb.org/legal/genocide.html

Note that the Convention doesn't set any "minimum" number of people who have to be killed before the crime rises to the level of genocide.

Genocide is defined by the Convention as: "... acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such."

One does not have to destroy the whole group in order to commit genocide; destroying it "in part" is enough. What qualifies the crime as genocide is not the total number of victims, but the intention: to destroy a group -- in whole or in part -- based on its nationality, ethnicity, race or religion.

As with all laws, the question of how to apply the Convention to specific cases is decided by the courts.

In the case of Srebrenica, more than one international court has already ruled that genocide was in fact committed in Srebrenica in July 1995.

One of those courts is the International Criminal Tribunal for former Yugoslavia (ICTY).

The ICTY is not a "NATO court" but a court established by the United Nations. The ICTY was set up in 1993 and given its mandate by a unanimous decision of the UN Security Council. The judges and lawyers who work at the ICTY come from dozens of UN member states, ranging from China to Argentina and from Switzerland to South Africa.

Another court that has ruled on Srebrenica is the International Court of Justice (ICJ), also known as the World Court -- the highest judicial body of the United Nations.

In 2007 the judges of the World Court ruled that the crime committed in Srebrenica in July 1995 was in fact genocide.

The World Court also ruled that Serbia violated its obligations under the Genocide Convention by failing to prevent or punish the crime of genocide at Srebrenica. Among the 14 international judges who voted for that decision was the Russian judge at the World Court, Leonid Skotnikov.

Jovan R, bravo for some good comments with facts. Thank you!
(Top, 11 June 2010 01:10)

Yes, pretty depressing facts.

Jovan R.,
Plegiarism is an unethical issue. At least give the source after quotation, we will still read "your" comment.

RE: Genocide?

The summary exectutions and deaths that occured in not only Srebrinica , but throughout the former Yugoslavia are crimes against humanity and as such, should be abjudicated according to the Geneva convention and international law.

The Hague Tribunal is not an international court, but a biased court where the agenda is dictated by the US and Western Europe which includes NATO which is in itself guilty of gross crimes against humanity.

Genocide is the planned and execited organized killing of people on a mass scale. The Hague Tribunal has no proof that the top leaders of any of the former Yugoslav republics pursued a policy of Genocide including Serbia. Srebrinica is a tool by the west to continue to shape and vilify the breaking of international law by NATO and western countries meddling in the affairs of the former Yugoslavia. The Milosevic trial without even allowing for the defenders case coming to trial proved the complicity of the so called western world which bypassed the UN in order to destroy a country that has existed for over 80 years.

The repurcussions are being fueled by fervent nationalism in many countries and of which Kosovo will set the precedent for further divisions and outbreak of war.

The recent elections in Hungary of a strong right wing party has sparked debate on the unfairness of the Treaty of Trianon after WWI and the mistreatment of Hungarian minorties particulary in Slovakia as well as Traninistria in Romania.

This is a direct result of the so called "Vojvodina Statute" which was essentially shoved down the throat of the pro western Tadic government.

Kosovo will be used as the precedent to further divide and conquer the Balkans and the formation of the so called new world order.

anonimous wrote: "rrustem mustafa 4 years.ramush haradinaj free.agim ceku free.why?" because they were innocent mr.anonimous.

(Jovan R., 11 June 2010 23:57)
If that the case then why do the Bosniak side oppose to a proper population census to include even the refugees to find out exact the number killed in that war.
The Srebrenica toll included Bosniak soldiers killed in other offensives around Sarajevo/Tusla and there are people living overseas that are counted as killed by Serbs – in fact their names are on the Srebrenica monument. Perhaps you should have read the interview of the wartime Bosniak police chief from Srebrenica and how Alia Izetbegovic wanted 5000 of his brothers killed to blame the Serbs.
As far as the world court is concerned I could get any result you like provided I had enough money to pay for the right judgment. Perhaps you might ask the question “what has the world court done to the US since it has murdered hundreds and thousands of people in Iraq and Afghanistan and sold it as fighting for freedom and democracy?”

Well well, calling people 'genocide deniers' really is scraping the barrel. Quite an impressive display of intellect on show.

I suppose this legal analysis of the Krstic judgment is also by a 'genocide denier'?

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:5zsFkyd_u3gJ:islandia.law.yale.edu/yhrdlj/PDF/Vol%25208/southwick.pdf+srebrenica+not+genocide&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjvaB5GsOuUiOyTGZDuknTldDuUS2dW2xI_PUyjF3gxtlFmURE8A4Hv2etCvYrx21-j1kBSnhWvkXVfsA9urp58AJjRQK4wJ9BmtaA6_I5qKhhban4WTAADZTKKpAbiEqkzDLZ9&sig=AHIEtbTCpJB4P8Svio3s0_8hFXa4ImLTfA

(or just google southwick+Krstic) for the pdf.

It's only 40 odd pages which shouldn't be too much of a strain...

What was their crime?
Were they cooks? or just simple soldiers? or even worse just Serbs?

The ICTY yet again shows itself as institutionally racist against the serbs, bending and reinterpreting international law to its will.

It never had a shred of evidence against Krstic, his crime basically to just having been in the VRS.

I somehow doubt that this low level of legal expertise will be applied equally to the great powers and their lap dogs. The rules for the powerful are always different than those who are not.

"Hague: Life sentences for Srebrenica"

Sad that the Hague tribunal doesn't have a death penalty for thugs who commit genocide.

No, these seven were not convicted of being cooks, or soldiers or for being Serbs. They were convicted of participating in genocide and other crimes against humanity. The court issued its verdict after it considered the testimony of 315 witnesses for the prosecution and the defense, and 5383 exhibits submitted by both sides totalling 87,392 pages. You don't have to read it all. The judges and the lawyers for both sides have already done that. But in case you still have trouble believing it, take a look at the summary of the judgment:

http://www.icty.org/x/cases/popovic/tjug/en/100610summary.pdf

The acts for which these seven individuals were convicted are the most grave crimes in the legal code. The facts of what was done in Srebrenica in the summer of 1995 and the role of these seven officers in those crimes have now been established beyond a reasonable doubt. No amount of shouting will make those facts go away.

Those who choose to go on denying the genocide at Srebrenica are only fooling themselves.

I just read in a Dutch newspaper that Croatia has handed over Franc Kos to Bosnia because of his part in the Srebrenica massacre. Kos has both a Slovenian and Bosnian nationality. Kos served in the Bosnian-Serb army. I have a few questions. Why was Kos not sent to The Hague? Is it not OK for the international community to know that apparently non-Serbs also had a big responsibility? Another Croat, Drazen Erdemovic, had been sentenced to five years for his part in killing 1200 Muslims in Srebrenica. Most Serbs get 40 years for killing a much smaller number (this does not mean I agree with the killings). One cannot anything else but double standards and it is about time to tell the real truth about Srebrenica. I am sure that Milosevic's comment that the French secret service was involved bears a lot of truth. But I did not know that Croats served in the Bosnian-Serb army, let alone Bosniaks killing their people.

Of course, they are all innocent, and they are only convicted because they are Serbs, and the ICTY is totally biased, and Milosevic was killed in the Hague, and Mladic is a hero who never should be arrested, and no civilians at all have been killed in Sebrenica - and Santa Claus is bringing gifts for all the children in the world.

(*shakehead*)

What happen to International LAW you been talking so much ????Or maybe the law told you to commit those Crimes ! There is no law for lowlifes !

Life sentences against these creeps are appropriate.

Those who choose to go on denying the genocide at Srebrenica are only fooling themselves.
(Jovan R., 10 June 2010 15:24)

thanks, jovan, for this detailed posting. to be honest, i stopped following these specific proceedings. but i always say, thank god for the hague tribunal, as imperfect as it is. look around and you clearly see what sort of "justice" there would have been w/out the hague. esp.ly frm banja luka or blgd, it is always same old, same old.

at least the hague has dealt with some of the "big fish." as for most of the others, they just live out their lives w/impunity. who cares about those events from long ago?

genocide is one particular evil -- its denial quite another. it is the continuation and exploitation of the first, and it allows people, nations to feel better: "we weren't so bad -- they just hate us, that's all." and such thinking predominates, not just here at this site but in many circles. media pushes it, reinforces it, then virtually silences the critics, the intellectual dissidents. so it is all connected.

they have just been uncovering another mass grave in E bosnia, victims of a genocidal campaign long before its climax in july 1995. i guess not enough bodies to make the news here:

thanks again, jovan, and to all those who will not allow the world to forget.

roberto
frisco

Jovan, I believe what most Serbs are angry about is that no murderer of Serbs is ever punished sufficiently. A story was created about the war where Serbs were the bad guys and everyone else the innocent victims. Nobody ever cared to hear the Serb side because it would violate the story's plot line. Once written, it was to be adhered to without question. We all know what happened in the war, and it pales in comparison to the plot line. Far fewer people died than Westerners were made to believe, and as it turns out Bosnian Muslims and Croats also committed horrible crimes, yet they seem to have been and remain above the law, just like Kosovo's Albanians. Why is it that the Hague will admit that some of their suspects did horrible things but there's never sufficient evidence or witnesses to send them to jail. A perfect example is Nasir Oric. We all know about Srebrenica and we know that men and boys died there at the hands of Serbs. We also know that people are being punished for that and those people committing those crimes deserve to go to jail. Yet, no Serb will ever be happy until those a holes like Oric who murdered and terrorized countless Serbs around Srebrenica also are punished instead of being treated like heroes. So, Jovan and others, that's why people feel the way they do. If you cannot understand that than you are no better than all the other fake humanitarians pretending they care about justice for victims.

Yet, no Serb will ever be happy until those a holes like Oric who murdered and terrorized countless Serbs around Srebrenica also are punished instead of being treated like heroes. So, Jovan and others, that's why people feel the way they do. If you cannot understand that than you are no better than all the other fake humanitarians pretending they care about justice for victims.
(Daniel, 11 June 2010 12:47)

This is true - but as I just wrote, no court can issue a verdict based on hearsay. There were Serbian perpetrators who had the remorse and who had the guts to come forward and speak about the crimes they did. These people were not blinded by muslim fundamentalism or by kanuns.

The situation with Bosnian muslim or KLA perpetrators is much more difficult because they are either blinded by the faith or following the traditional set of tribal/clan customs and such acts are unimaginable.

Besides that fact, yes, Hague tribunal seem to be good at handling pretty asymmetrical sentences - but as I did read in some "glorious" sources Croatians complain about the same thing: Croatian perpetrators are sentenced in much higher numbers and given much harsher sentences than the Bosnian-muslim ones. Does anyone believe, Bosnian "mudjaheddins" were soft on Croatian population? Of course, not. But the nature of the beast (and the faith) is such, that while most ex-mudjaheddins sleep like a baby, (ex)ustasha has nightmares daily. It is obvious, who will give up sooner.

rrustem mustafa 4 years.ramush haradinaj free.agim ceku free.why?

RE: Genocide?

The summary exectutions and deaths that occured in not only Srebrinica , but throughout the former Yugoslavia are crimes against humanity and as such, should be abjudicated according to the Geneva convention and international law.

The Hague Tribunal is not an international court, but a biased court where the agenda is dictated by the US and Western Europe which includes NATO which is in itself guilty of gross crimes against humanity.

Genocide is the planned and execited organized killing of people on a mass scale. The Hague Tribunal has no proof that the top leaders of any of the former Yugoslav republics pursued a policy of Genocide including Serbia. Srebrinica is a tool by the west to continue to shape and vilify the breaking of international law by NATO and western countries meddling in the affairs of the former Yugoslavia. The Milosevic trial without even allowing for the defenders case coming to trial proved the complicity of the so called western world which bypassed the UN in order to destroy a country that has existed for over 80 years.

The repurcussions are being fueled by fervent nationalism in many countries and of which Kosovo will set the precedent for further divisions and outbreak of war.

The recent elections in Hungary of a strong right wing party has sparked debate on the unfairness of the Treaty of Trianon after WWI and the mistreatment of Hungarian minorties particulary in Slovakia as well as Traninistria in Romania.

This is a direct result of the so called "Vojvodina Statute" which was essentially shoved down the throat of the pro western Tadic government.

Kosovo will be used as the precedent to further divide and conquer the Balkans and the formation of the so called new world order.

Drazen Erdemovic was arrested in March 1996, three months after the end of the war in Bosnia. At his initial appearance at The Hague (May 1996), he confessed and pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate with the prosecution.

On 29 Nov 1996, Erdemovic became the first person to be sentenced for a crime against humanity by an international court since the post-WW2 war crimes trials in Nuremberg and Tokyo. He received a relatively lighter sentence because of his low rank, and because of his expression of remorse and willingness to cooperate. Erdemovic has since appeared as one of the witnesses for the prosecution in the cases brought against his superior officers, including Gen. Krstic and the "Srebrenica Seven."

The superior officers have received tougher sentences -- not because they were Serbs, but because of their higher level of responsibility. Those officers were directly involved in planning, organizing and carrying out the Srebrenica genocide. Some of them were also involved in the operation in the late summer and fall of 1995 to hide the bodies of the massacre victims, using heavy equipment to dig up the victims' remains from primary mass grave sites, transporting piles of bodies by truck and reburying them in secondary graves in some 80 different locations.

Franc Kos, like Erdemovic, was one of the low-level shooters, carrying out executions on orders from superior officers. Now that Kos has been arrested and extradited, he will be tried by the War Crimes chamber of the State Court of BiH, which has also tried other low-level war criminals (of all nationalities).

My wife is a Bosnian who lost brothers and cousins at Srebrenica. The day Mladic is convicted will be a great day for her.

Jovan R.,
Plegiarism is an unethical issue. At least give the source after quotation, we will still read "your" comment.

(Jovan R., 11 June 2010 23:57)
If that the case then why do the Bosniak side oppose to a proper population census to include even the refugees to find out exact the number killed in that war.
The Srebrenica toll included Bosniak soldiers killed in other offensives around Sarajevo/Tusla and there are people living overseas that are counted as killed by Serbs – in fact their names are on the Srebrenica monument. Perhaps you should have read the interview of the wartime Bosniak police chief from Srebrenica and how Alia Izetbegovic wanted 5000 of his brothers killed to blame the Serbs.
As far as the world court is concerned I could get any result you like provided I had enough money to pay for the right judgment. Perhaps you might ask the question “what has the world court done to the US since it has murdered hundreds and thousands of people in Iraq and Afghanistan and sold it as fighting for freedom and democracy?”

Jovan R, bravo for some good comments with facts. Thank you!

rrustem mustafa 4 years.ramush haradinaj free.agim ceku free.why?
(anonimous, 10 June 2010 21:57)

Easy to explain: they are part of a pretty secretive community with habits/laws where "besa" does mean a lot. This is both good and bad. Good is that Albanians will do everything to keep the word and to accommodate the guest. Bad is that it's easy to interpret this wrongly and it's easy to either intimidate the witnesses or just brain-wash them.

Of course, the crimes were as I believe symmetrical. But a court can't sentence anyone without witnesses. So far there wasn't a single member of KLA who would come forward with a remorse - see besa. And so far there wasn't a single Bosnian fighter doing the same - see Hezbullah.

---

What's this
My wife is a Bosnian who lost brothers and cousins at Srebrenica. The day Mladic is convicted will be a great day for her.
(Gladko, 10 June 2010 21:57)

Wish her that great day coming soon. Condolences to your family.

RE: Genocide?

What is and what is not genocide is not a matter for argument. The crime of genocide was defined by the 1948 Genocide Convention, which you can read here

http://www.hrweb.org/legal/genocide.html

Note that the Convention doesn't set any "minimum" number of people who have to be killed before the crime rises to the level of genocide.

Genocide is defined by the Convention as: "... acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such."

One does not have to destroy the whole group in order to commit genocide; destroying it "in part" is enough. What qualifies the crime as genocide is not the total number of victims, but the intention: to destroy a group -- in whole or in part -- based on its nationality, ethnicity, race or religion.

As with all laws, the question of how to apply the Convention to specific cases is decided by the courts.

In the case of Srebrenica, more than one international court has already ruled that genocide was in fact committed in Srebrenica in July 1995.

One of those courts is the International Criminal Tribunal for former Yugoslavia (ICTY).

The ICTY is not a "NATO court" but a court established by the United Nations. The ICTY was set up in 1993 and given its mandate by a unanimous decision of the UN Security Council. The judges and lawyers who work at the ICTY come from dozens of UN member states, ranging from China to Argentina and from Switzerland to South Africa.

Another court that has ruled on Srebrenica is the International Court of Justice (ICJ), also known as the World Court -- the highest judicial body of the United Nations.

In 2007 the judges of the World Court ruled that the crime committed in Srebrenica in July 1995 was in fact genocide.

The World Court also ruled that Serbia violated its obligations under the Genocide Convention by failing to prevent or punish the crime of genocide at Srebrenica. Among the 14 international judges who voted for that decision was the Russian judge at the World Court, Leonid Skotnikov.

anonimous wrote: "rrustem mustafa 4 years.ramush haradinaj free.agim ceku free.why?" because they were innocent mr.anonimous.

Jovan R, bravo for some good comments with facts. Thank you!
(Top, 11 June 2010 01:10)

Yes, pretty depressing facts.

Well well, calling people 'genocide deniers' really is scraping the barrel. Quite an impressive display of intellect on show.

I suppose this legal analysis of the Krstic judgment is also by a 'genocide denier'?

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:5zsFkyd_u3gJ:islandia.law.yale.edu/yhrdlj/PDF/Vol%25208/southwick.pdf+srebrenica+not+genocide&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjvaB5GsOuUiOyTGZDuknTldDuUS2dW2xI_PUyjF3gxtlFmURE8A4Hv2etCvYrx21-j1kBSnhWvkXVfsA9urp58AJjRQK4wJ9BmtaA6_I5qKhhban4WTAADZTKKpAbiEqkzDLZ9&sig=AHIEtbTCpJB4P8Svio3s0_8hFXa4ImLTfA

(or just google southwick+Krstic) for the pdf.

It's only 40 odd pages which shouldn't be too much of a strain...