Feith expects “new recognitions”

This man should not be holding two conflicting posts - one which is status neutral and the other which is speaking on behalf of the pro-independence countries.

This is totally wrong.

It seems that he thinks the political pressure to please everyone with a fudged response has worked on the ICJ. We shall see. Personally, I believe it would be a disaster because it would illustrate the end of the ICJ being viewed as impartial, apolitical or genuine.

But what the heck is he doing using the floor granted to him as the EU representative to speak on behalf of the ICO? Brussels and the UN are allowing him to make a mockery of the whole system.

The reassurance in his statements is that they just smack of desperation.

'Feith claimed that "Kosovo is a sustainable country on the way to becoming a multi-ethnic democracy".

Ok, where do I start? LOL Sustainable country?? Multi-ethnic democracy? What is this guy smoking?? Pass the bong please. It's comedy hour.

From reading Feith's statement one sane person can conclude that this latest round of shape throwing is for domestic consumption only.

Nothing to see here, move on.

Kosovo is independent in every way possible, recognistion just confirm this further.
Is this a news??
(PRN, 9 June 2010 10:21)

Then why is this Dutchman your head of state? He can destroy every (!) decision made in Kosovo!

This statement is absolutely useless. Nobody, neither Serb nor Albanian wants a mixed decision.
[...]
(Daniel, 9 June 2010 12:01)

You are wrong. A "mixed decision" would just confirm what the Albanian/Kosovo side always said. Recognitions fall to the question of souvereignity, i.e. it is up to the countries and their governments if they want to recognize Kosovo. This way of dealing with foreign countries is not only one of the base principles of international law, but common practice ever since humankind invented "states". No court on earth can rule on that. The ICJ is actually only checking if the circumstances which lead to declaration of independence are in accordance with international law, not the independence itself, since it has no authority to do so.

That is why a "mixed decision" is most likely to come out. However, Serbia needs a clear victory if it wants to have at least a theoretical chance to gain Kosovo. But even for that unlikely outcome many governments already stated that they will not change their decision, leading back to what souvereignty was, is and always will be: a pillar of independence of those states. The fact that most of the 3rd world countries didn't recognize Kosovo, yet, doesn't help Serbia either, since it is an European issue, not an African or South American. In fact, the direct neighborhood including the core countries of the Western world are the only decisive ones in this question, since it is them with which Serbian and Kosovo deal with more than 95%.

The whole world can recognize Kosovo, but until the following states recognize them:

1) Russia and China
2) Spain, Romania, Greece, Slovakia and Cyprus

It really does not matter.

Russia and China are necessary to complete the UNSC endorsement of the general assembly's vote to accept Kosovo's membership in the UN (and all other organizations as a result thereof), otherwise even the 2/3 majority means nothing.

Spain, Romania, Greece, Slovakia and Cyprus are necessary for Kosovo's Euro-Atlantic ambitions, without even just one vote from either of these states, Kosovo is not going anywhere.

So Pieter Feith should "except" votes from sources such as these, rather than some ridiculous island republics in the Pacific, which mean absolutely nothing for Kosovo (since no one in Kosovo except the politicans and mafia can actually afford to go there on holiday).

Also, I have noticed that Albanians love to mock the seven nations I mentioned above as being insignificant. Why is that? You know they have power over your destiny as a state, and are all much richer and better developed than Kosovo will be in years.

Come on guys, come back to earth, your independence is a done deal, but it means nothing except that.

Feith expects “new recognitions”

Recognistions were coming before ICJ started work on Kosovo, during the preparations on the advisory opinion and naturally after it.

This is so obvious, and as such should perhaps be NO SUPRISE TO ANY.

Kosovo is independent in every way possible, recognistion just confirm this further.
Is this a news??

Getting these recognitions is like swimming in mud, isn't it Peter.

Kosovo is independent in every way possible
PRN

Is that why your so called head of state Thaci was searched at the Pritina airport by EULEX. How embarrassing for him and Kosovos so called independence.

Joe, is your real name George Soros?? It would only make sense.

This statement is absolutely useless. Nobody, neither Serb nor Albanian wants a mixed decision. What good would that do for anyone I ask? The simple answer is nothing. A mixed decision would mean a mixed world where neither Serbia nor Kosovo's Albanians have full control over the territory. Kosovo will not be permitted into the UN and its sports teams will not be permitted to play in most international events. Serbs in the North will continue to pledge allegiance to Serbia and those Albanians south of the Ibar will continue to be governed by Albanian leaders. His prediction is the worst case scenario for everyone. I ask you, do Albanians in Kosovo want another 10 or 20 recognitions? What good would it do unless there is full recognition? Again, the answer is nothing. This is a foolish problem that can only be solved by negotiation. The problem is that people are allowing the pride of a few MEN to the futures of many people. Serbs and Albanians alike must put aside their differences and sit down like two peoples who have to live and work together and negotiate a solution that is acceptable to both. For those of you who cannot see this, you must really like war and the horrific scenes it creates. What a shame.

Kosovo is independent in every way possible, recognistion just confirm this further.
Is this a news??
(PRN, 9 June 2010 10:21)

Then why is this Dutchman your head of state? He can destroy every (!) decision made in Kosovo!
(Ron, 9 June 2010 11:19)

Ron again,

Feith is friend of Kosovars, and, as you can see, he lobbies for Kosovo independence. I hope you are not so ignorant to think that any International official that we called to assist us temporary (until June 2012) can be against Kosovo independence, or against decisions that pro-independence.

Remember once and for all that we dont accept international officials to help us, if the individual is against us or our cause.

We thank again the EU taxpayers and NATO countries for giving us FREE advice and security until the latest end 2012 or mid 2013.

We will always be grateful for this.

Pieter Feith is correct in his assertion that Hague decision “will not change anything regarding the position of the countries that recognized Kosovo”.
The legal argument has been initiated exclusively by the current Serbian regime as the sole and last feasible option to contest. Contesting nonetheless doesn’t necessarily mean that even the Serbian legal team is assured on the outcome of the ruling.
The flipside of the coin is that Serbia’s gamble might backfire badly. The argument of sovereign territorial integrity of a state like Serbia might be severally put in jeopardy by a vague ruling of JCI.
States like Romania, Slovakia, Greece, and Spain and beyond that have also exclusively relied on the legal interpretation put forward by Serbia might run out of ammunition for no fault of their own.
Sooner or later this unholy alliance is bound to fall down like a house of cards.

Well, even when I don't disagree with that assessment so I recommand to wait. For the time being, we can say that Serbia's attempt to bring recognitions with the ICJ case on halt was a failure. And judging from the recent comments of desparation from Belgrade, it is something going on behind the curtain.

Sheridan,
in WWII, most of Serbia's neighbours, and in fact all of central europe, wanted a nazi-europe mega-state.

What should i suppose is your stance on that?

let me guess..

when smth fits USA/UK's agenda, its european, else, its tagged nazi/communist/etc..

am i correct?

PS
its a fact, no country gives a damn about Kosovo (except Serbia/FYROM/USA/UK), neither cant they locate it on the map...

"The problem is that people are allowing the pride of a few MEN to the futures of many people. Serbs and Albanians alike must put aside their differences and sit down like two peoples who have to live and work together and negotiate a solution that is acceptable to both. For those of you who cannot see this, you must really like war and the horrific scenes it creates. What a shame.
(Daniel,"

Daniel the "few" who are holdng Kosovo hostige are northern baffoons sponsored by Serbia, and judging from their "votes" are so few to make anything work.
K Serbs have their own representatives who want to move on, and there is Serbs in Serbia and abroad who claim rediculous conclussions just as you do.

The only people that want war are Serbs, they have abused the UN with questions that they do not care an answer for, they have poluted the european courts with basless fabrications and manipulations, ect ect.

In the future, i would expect recognitions from Banana republics and de-recognitions from serious countries.

It must be time for silly statements in Pristina again.

So let's see. First Feith expects new recognitions. This itself it a yawn since we've been waiting on that "wave" for years now and when recognitions do come, they tend to be underwhelming. I don't know what was lamer - Swaziland's or Somalia's. Either way, they are meaningless in altering the status quo and only appear to get Albanians on this site excited.

But then Feith claims he's "speaking in the name of the countries that recognized Kosovo's independence". Ok, so now he's Washington's errand boy? Why can't these countries make these statements on their own? Maybe they don't want to prejudice the ICJ decision? Or maybe they don't want to hitch the horse to a cart they don't know will arrive. Furthermore, why get all excited about new recognitions when he predicted a "mixed opinion" that will "satisfy Belgrade" and "to an extent" support Kosovo? "To an extent"? By this terminology, Pristina needs a home run in order to get any recognitions that mean anything and knock Belgrade out of the game.

The rest of his statements are once again filled with sentences that are grammatically correct but mean little. We get the "notable progress" statement even though EULEX is gearing up to arrest most of Pristina's leadership for corruption and embezzlement. We get some vague reference to Serbs accepting their lot in Kosovo because around 20% in a municipality that has clearly demonstrated its disgust is everyone and anything are indirectly particpating in the elections he mandated. Never mind they did everything they could to preserve their phone service last month after Pristina tried to kill it.

Might as well finish off the silly report with another reference to Kosovo being the happiest place on Earth.

Again, if you're going to lie, you either need to lie convincingly to make what you say somewhat credible. Or if you know you don't have a chance at all, you might as well have fun. It seems Feith is opting for the latter.

Toke the only ridiculous thing about Daniel's post is your response to it.

Your assertion that Serbs want war is clearly wrong. Everybody has seen that Serbia has pursued the issue diplomatically, everybody knows that it was Serbia that pushed this to the ICJ.

Further, as far as war like conduct is concerned - have the Serbs in Serbia been attacking Albanians in the way that the Albanians have been doing with Serbs in Kosovo?

Tadic has made it as clear as crystal that violence / war is not an option.

Obviously Serbs don't war, even if a minority of Serbs would be willing to fight.

Quite why you must savagely attack somebody who is only calling for negotiations (diplomacy) and accuse them of wanting war is beyond me.
Its sounds as if you are more afraid of peace than war.
I expected better from you.

Interesting link, Anon. Could be an idea, though it sounds tricky and complicated. In my option, a partition is still the best and most simple solution for the Kosovo mess.
This might oppose the idea of a "multi-ethnic democracy of Kosovo", but it's an illusion, anyway.

Also, I have noticed that Albanians love to mock the seven nations I mentioned above as being insignificant. Why is that? You know they have power over your destiny as a state, and are all much richer and better developed than Kosovo will be in years.
Peter

"richer and better developed"
'So what?? Everything is
relative. They are however much poorer than the USA and Western European countries.
Just because Kosovo is poorer does not mean that they should give up their independence and go back to Serbia. Or that what you would like to see? Why? While you Poles enjoy your independence why do you want to deny it to 2 million people who suffered so much?

The whole world can recognize Kosovo, but until the following states recognize them:

1) Russia and China
2) Spain, Romania, Greece, Slovakia and Cyprus

(Peter Sudyka, 9 June 2010 14:06)

Peter

You are wrong. If all the world doesn't recognise BUT only the G7 then you are indpendent.

When push come sto shove the entire world gives way to the G7 stratgy to the new global political and economic order.

Or that what you would like to see? Why? While you Poles enjoy your independence why do you want to deny it to 2 million people who suffered so much?
(Joe, 9 June 2010 15:24)
Such parallel can be set up only by someone who totally lacks knowlage of history additinally has no sense of justice.As opposed to Albanians Poles secrificed a lot against europe's inside and outside enemies(I know as an antichristian and anti- european heavily pro-Turk and pro-Hitlerist you do not appriciate this fact) similarly to Serbs.Your cuddled narcoteroreist run albanians were the best bootlickers and shoepolishers of your beloved Turks as a reward being given territories from where those who dared to fight turks were ethnicly cleansed.Additionally as a hungarian jew you should know that Poles saved most of your people when they were persecuted througout Europe and fough for Independence of Hungary several times while unfortunatell many hungarians such as for example priests and bishops of pseudochristian grecocatholic church were eagerly serving habsurg interests instead.

Then why is this Dutchman your head of state? He can destroy every (!) decision made in Kosovo!
(Ron, 9 June 2010 11:19)
Actually you could not be more wrong. Try reading 1244 sometime complete with the Rambouillet Accords and you will learn alot. However, as long as your interest only lies in trying to irritate the Kosovo Albanians, I don't expect any serious reading on your part.
The part in 1244 that says taking in full account of the Rambouillet accords it spells out exactly what powers the govt of Kosovo has, in detail. But even without considering The Rambouillet accords, 1244 says that the authorities will be turned over to the democratically elected govt of Kosovo as the head of UNMIK has done.
I realize that he should have ignored his mandate and asked permission from Ron but it did not happen.

"The reassurance in his statements is that they just smack of desperation.
kate

If just desperation than why are you criticizing him so vehemently? Are you afraid that the ICJ will not go your way? So if the ICJ decision is not for your likening than it is immediately not objective?

It seems the Feith has been in Pristina for too long. He's starting to sound like Thaci.

“The only people that want war are Serbs, they have abused the UN with questions that they do not care an answer for, they have poluted the european courts with basless fabrications and manipulations, ect ect.”said Toke


What abuse of the UN? The only state that abuses the UN is the USA all together with some satellite European countries.
Do I have to mention how grossly UN was abused prior to NATO’s air strike against Serbia? Do I have to mention how grossly UN was abused by ignoring and continuolsy violating the UNSC’s resolution 1244. Do you know how badly UN continues to be abused by pressuring countries all over the world to recognise Kosovo?

War? What kind of war are you talking about? If Belgrade’s explicit stance against recognition is seen as a war, then ok, let it be.

The thing is, my dear friends, that recognition from Belgrade is not coming despite the threats and blackmails that we are continuously exposed to.
That is our diplomatic right that we choose.

I can agree that the ICJ’ s opinion won’t change anything whatever the outcome of the final decision is. That won’t change the matter a bit. Neither will halt further forced recognitions.

However, asking for ICJ’s opinion was reasonable diplomatic move since there is always chance to win.After all what are the courts for? In case that final decision gets positive for Serbia, Belgrade will always have right to claim what is ours. Actually, positive decision would only confirm resolution 1244 and strengthen our position in future.

I think that Belgrade can wait very long. But can Pristina afford to wait for that long with unresolved status and dispute over sovereignty?

I trully believe that something created by use of force is doomed to failure, sooner or later.

Serbia on the other hand, with or without Kosovo, won’t ever join the EU and that is crystal clear. I only hope that our leaders can see that too.Do they pretend not to see or...? Where they are aiming to is beyond me.
The thing that really bothers me with this government is their unwillingness to give up their EU ambitions and focus on real problems that affect country’s well-being and reputation.

Joe, is your real name George Soros?? It would only make sense.
(Dragan, 9 June 2010 19:05)
Well actually his mentaliy(and background) is more similar to that of Tom Lantos(the big protector of all kind of criminals such as Hodorkovski ,Tasnádi Péter(the biggest criminal in hungary in 90s) or albanian narcoterrorists whom he offered help as early as 1988).If the latter one was alive I would think that he is the one posting here.Their ideas rhetorics and even logic are so similar.Funnily enough there is another Lantos clone on hungarian forum Mr Henel of whom I and Ataman for a long time belived to be Joe himself because of the ideological similirates.

Joe: "That remind me of a Hungarian Jewish girl I knew for a short but pleasent time in Germany. With a big breast she looked like Marylin Monroe. Since all my friends envied me I felt like Mickey Hargitay."

Joe, eeeugh - you're making my computer feel infected and out-of-date. What century are you living in politically and socially? Was this during the 1940s?

You need to get out a bit more into the modern world.

P.S. I don't think her mother stopped you seeing her for that reason - she probably had her sleazedar on full alert.

Another solution?

http://transconflict.com/2010/05/kosovo-divisible-sovereignty/

'Feith claimed that "Kosovo is a sustainable country on the way to becoming a multi-ethnic democracy".

It's silly season in Pristina. Oh wait that should be Groundhog Day.

Bill Murray, how are ye?

not surprising to read something like that, since it is Feith´s only task to be the speaker of those who are supporting the illegal freak-creation on southern-serbian soil.

the best part for me is the one, where he is predicting the ICJ outcome... =)

well, Mr.Feith, do you know more about it?
and if so, what would you do if Serbia stood up against the obvious breach of international law?

you know, Tadic & Co. are replacable, and the serbian people can´t be bought that cheap like some other ethnicities that are bordering Serbia.

let´s just sit and wait, and then we will see.

but, I´ll tell you something, that even a dutch bureaucrat like you should understand:

in regard to the law, there is only one outcome possible - the one in favour of Serbia´s territorial integrity.

everything else would be a scandal, and... no lasting solution.

so, all in all, this is more of some kind of nice talk aimed at the k-albanians, nothing more.

If I were in their shoes, I would be suspicious if they were giving me this kind of "nice-talk"...

but, as far as we can see here, they do not think further than to celebrate irrelevant opinions of temporary officials...

If I were Jewish I would not hide it but acknowledge it PROUDLY like all American Jews.
(Joe, 10 June 2010 03:21)

"Thanks" Joe - how about real ones, not the insidious ugly creatures... like Madeleine Korbel Albright, or Bill Clinton as half-Jew. May their humanitarian bombs explode in their stomaches for eternity.

Some Jews in USA and Hungary I know are such, I want to vomit every time I look at them. You got two examples, but I promise you there are quite a few more.

I just cross my fingers that if I look in the mirror I won't need to vomit one day.

Another solution?

[link]
(Anon,9 june 2010)

This is no more than exercise of a free speech.This person is totaly irelevant,more vasted money for ...Serb taxpayers.

It seems that he thinks the political pressure to please everyone with a fudged response has worked on the ICJ. We shall see. Personally, I believe it would be a disaster because it would illustrate the end of the ICJ being viewed as impartial, apolitical or genuine.

But what the heck is he doing using the floor granted to him as the EU representative to speak on behalf of the ICO? Brussels and the UN are allowing him to make a mockery of the whole system.

The reassurance in his statements is that they just smack of desperation.
(kate, 9 June 2010 10:01)
Someone who is ruled against, claiming that the justice system is corrupt, what a novel idea.
The only people who will be disillusioned by any decision here will be the nationalists posting here.
I really doubt Serbia itself will proclaim the court itself to be corrupt, and if it does then it will only be viewed as rantings of a child being made to stand in the corner.
Seeing that Feith continues to keep his posts which any of your 5 countries could lead a campaign to remove him, it seems that there is no official disagreement with his stance and remarks.
As far as the desperation remark, it is becoming all to common a favorite phrase from the Serbian camp--kind of like an act of desperation, you think?

I expected better from you.
(bganon, 9 June 2010 16:12)
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Really! You must be the only one. I have been readig this guy's posts and I can tell you that I don't expect him to make any sense at all.

"I know as an antichristian and anti- european heavily pro-Turk and pro-Hitlerist you do not appriciate this fact".
Szemi

So me as Greek-Catholic I am "antichristian"? Since when?
You must have had a very bad day to come up with something like this.

"anti- european"...not a "pro-european" for valid reasons would be more correct

"pro-Turk"...did my latest anti-Turk comments sounded pro-Turk to you? If yes you really have an understanding/jugement problem.

"pro-Hitlerist"... far-rightists like you act like that type. Oh I suppose you call me that because once I questioned the logic of the Polish cavaly attacking German tanks in WWII and the way 12 million German civilians were expulsed by Poles. How did I dare to defend those civilians?(...some of them with Polish names I met lateron why I worked in Germany).

"Additionally as a hungarian jew you should know"

You are really on the dark side of the moon. If I were Jewish I would not hide it but acknowledge it PROUDLY like all American Jews. They have reason to be proud of all their accomplishments. Far-rightist antisemitic Hungarians like you who are unable to hold a stady job could learn a great deal from them.

"unfortunatell many hungarians such as for example priests and bishops of pseudochristian grecocatholic church were eagerly serving habsurg interests instead."
szemi

You are really mixed up..big time...so what am I?

A Jew and a Greek-Catholic at the same time? Did you drink some palinka? It was just yesterday that your new PM came up with the glorious idea of allowing free palinka making in his "action-plan" to make every Hungarian happy and drunk. After such great anouncement you should be really happy and not attack a Greek-catholic Jew like me.
What kind of attacks can I expect if your new government will be a colosal desapointment? Will you attack Jews and Greek-catholics even more?

Your cuddled narcoteroreist run albanians were the best bootlickers and shoepolishers of your beloved Turks as a reward being given territories from where those who dared to fight turks were ethnicly cleansed.
(szemi, 9 June 2010 17:56)

This is not just, Szemi.

1) How you spell "Λασκαρίνα Μπουμπουλίνα" in Hungarian ;-)
2) Please count how many NON-ALBANIANS you see on that video... I tried and I am still at a number smaller than 10. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78OcEBJPmgM

Now what is going on, I am the defender of Albanians?

OK, watch this and what is the language of the songs? That explains - and we all know that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoG5ecO60lY

How come? Well, of course Albanians like everyone else have some really bad smelling rotten apples. Like I don't think the proud nation of Armenians who suffered so much during the history are very proud of an Armenian whose Hungarized name is Ferenc Szálasi.

On this forum most Albanians are protective to a ridiculous degree, use very primitive arguments which just make me explode sometimes - and I am even sometimes wondering, are they maybe paid for trolling or maybe they are straight provocators?

I firmly distinguish between people I met in Kosovo from these creatures...Luckily there are few Albanian posters here with whom I am happy to agree to disagree and have no hard feelings. I am not thinking about P(ristina)R(idiculous)N(azi) of course.

We really admire *** SOME *** (or many if you like) Albanians. But the ones you mention do exist, unfortunately.

Like: it is 100% true, that the very core of Hungarian heavy cavalry and also inventors of iron-clad horsemen were... Jews. It is true, that most ingenious Hungarians are/were Ashkenazim. Question: does that hook-nosed little greedy, ugly insidious creature in black hat exist? Of course, it does. Our duty is to pray and do everything to be similar to the iron-clad horsemen or to Pál Erdös... and kill the ugly little creature inside of us.

Albanians have a similar task - I don't want mention names. And who is real out there, please be less protective. That helps to improve your image.

Now there is U.S. establishment and E.U. bureaucracy as a new sugar daddy, replacing Ottomans and Hitler. Let's see for how long lemmings will praise them.

The entire Serbian-Albanian conflict is a PRIMITIVE TRIBAL CONFLICT now dressed up in some more fancy form. I have to admit, I am firmly on a certain side of that conflict for whatever reason, probably a primitive and tribal reason. I am a primitive majmun, too. At least I admit that ;-)

(PRN, 9 June 2010 14:34)

There is no G7 anymore. It’s now the G20 my friend. You seem to have overlooked the fact that the west has seceded economic control to other upcoming powers. You should keep up with the times.

Feith is only blowing smoke up the proverbial. If Kosovo is that sustainable then ask the genius why doesn’t the US invest in Kosovo? It has openly stated that Serbia is of no interest so I say invest in Kosovo, but you Albanians will never ask that question because the answer is glaringly obvious.

I recall that it was claimed that 2010 was the official date for the Kosovo Army to take over. They are stringing you along. When you get near to 2012 it will be 2014 then 2018 then 2022………

Status quo continues.

. Far-rightist antisemitic Hungarians like you who are unable to hold a stady job could learn a great deal from them.

Joe, 10 June 2010 03:21)

There are some posters, so-called peaceniks, who are nothing more than blind, inconditional supporters of those radical islamists. That is the reason why these peaceniks can't influence their own governments. There are like the fifth column of those radical islamists and states like Turkey/Iran.
(Joe, 8 June 2010 17:45)

Haha.This is funny .Joe you are accused by many of cold war mentality on this forum.I would rather say you are a bit outdated with your ideas .When it comes to antisemitism you and the state of Israel are the best examples with the anti-palestinian ideas and policy.So when someone does not agree with Israeli terror the one must be labelel as nazi or fifth column of islamist.How sad that nobody belives anymore in such low-level accusations.And those narrow minded texts regarding setady job.Are you envious that there people who can afford not to sit 8 or 10 hours in the office making profits for others.Or simply if someone does not have a steady job the one is automaticly some inferior lazy person according to you.Well the most active and productive people I have known did not have steadsy jobs but it did not mean they did not work.On the contrary.Simply they are free and involed in many activities .Well I am proud not to have ever been steadily employed.But I worked since the age of 14(by that time as a lazy good for nothing lad I already knew 5 languaages) doing some translations besides visiting at least 2 trainings a day as a modern pentatlonist .Since the age of 17 I have not relied on my parents' money though Ataman himself may testify that I could have afforded it.Today I am the co- owner of a gokart track(where current polish F1 driver Robert Kubica developed his skills ) a stud-farm breeding excelent horses and shop selling soccer related items.Is it really a big sin that I do not hold a study job?

I just cross my fingers that if I look in the mirror I won't need to vomit one day.
(Ataman, 10 June 2010 14:41)
Perhaps not I do not think you have too much common with panenka Korbelova HasimTaci's adopted grandmother.

"... like Madeleine Korbel Albright, or Bill Clinton as half-Jew."
Ataman

Madeleine yes, but Bill? Where did you get that? If that would be the case more people would know about it.
Good example is Kerry, who was running for president. He is catholic but his grand-father was a Jew from Prag. After emigrating to the US he became catholic than committed suicide few years later. It is amazing how all personal details are found out once somebody becomes a politician or tries to run for an office.

Joe

""pro-Hitlerist"... far-rightists like you act like that type. Oh I suppose you call me that because once I questioned the logic of the Polish cavaly attacking German tanks in WWII and the way 12 million German civilians were expulsed by Poles. How did I dare to defend those civilians?(...some of them with Polish names I met lateron why I worked in Germany)."

Firstly, Polish cavalry did not charge German tanks, this was a Nazi propaganda campaign which obviously you have bought into.

Secondly, the expulsions of ethnic Germans from newly acquired lands is purely the work of our communist authorities, which we modern Poles cannot be held guilty for. That would be as stupid as me saying that the 1956 Budapest riots were Hungarians killing Hungarians. Same thing.

"Or that what you would like to see? Why? While you Poles enjoy your independence why do you want to deny it to 2 million people who suffered so much?
(Joe, 9 June 2010 15:24)"

I am simply against the way the entire independence campaign was carried out, and it was completely unfair to Serbia who had gotten rid of Milosevic, the perpetrator of crimes in Kosovo themselves, so why should they be held to blame for Milosevic's JNA crimes?

Also sorry, but what the Kosovars went through was a drop in the ocean compared with what other Europeans have suffered in the past. Cowardly Albanians converted to islam to avoid fighting for what they thought was right, while countries like Germany and Poland lost about 30% of their populations during the 30 years war and Deluge respectively, and Russia lost 40 million people during communism and world war II combined, Ukraine lost 7 million in the holodomor (if not more), Poland lost 5 million (granted, 3 million were jews) and Germany lost 10 million so this few thousand that Albanians lost in Kosovo War is nothing compared with what Germanic and Slavic nations have lost in their histories.

this is nice!
wasting time analyzing what Feith said! who cares???!!! what is done is done. independent or not, Serbia will never have Kosovo again.
just curious: serbs and Serbia say kosovo is ours and etcc. why dont u say the same for Croatia, MonteNegro, Bosnia, Sllovenia, Macedonia??? maybe cos Kosovo was the last remebrance of the dead Yugosllavia???
i dont give a damn what do some pseudo-patriotic serbs and albanias comment in here. i really feel sorry that most serbs still think Kosovo belongs to them cos they have been deceived!!!
one german diplomat once said: Kosovo was a error of the great powers and now its time to fix it!
not a brit, a german!
anyway.
some guy there was mocking about recognitions like Swaziland and Somalia! they're votes, mate!

Madeleine yes, but Bill? Where did you get that? If that would be the case more people would know about it.
(Joe, 10 June 2010 17:15)

The basis of that rumor is the fact, that Bill Clinton's mom was Virginia Dell Cassidy. "Dell" alone rises some suspicion, Cassidy, too. That is enough for the rumor. My mom believes in that 100%.

OK, maybe these rumors are completely wrong - but that Monica Lewinsky is a Jew is 1000% guaranteed. Just look at her name, she is certainly a Levite.

Levite or not: wish her best health and may her bite be as strong as of a lion. ;-)

"OK, maybe these rumors are completely wrong - but that Monica Lewinsky is a Jew is 1000% guaranteed. Just look at her name, she is certainly a Levite.

Levite or not: wish her best health and may her bite be as strong as of a lion. ;-)
Ataman

I agree. And I am sure Monica did a good job.
That remind me of a Hungarian Jewish girl I knew for a short but pleasent time in Germany. With a big breast she looked like Marylin Monroe. Since all my friends envied me I felt like Mickey Hargitay.
Her mother cut me off because I did not comply on one Saturday with her request. I brought back her daughter very late instead of "sundown" time on Sabetz.
Still, to paraphrase the title of a German movie "Ich Denke oft an Piroschka" (I think often about Piroschka) I would say "I denke oft an Andrea".

'Expects'...

Someone said in here said:

"I trully believe that something created by use of force is doomed to failure, sooner or later."

Then you must have anticipated the "doomed to failure" greater serbia project in the 90's,

Feith expects “new recognitions”

Recognistions were coming before ICJ started work on Kosovo, during the preparations on the advisory opinion and naturally after it.

This is so obvious, and as such should perhaps be NO SUPRISE TO ANY.

Kosovo is independent in every way possible, recognistion just confirm this further.
Is this a news??

This man should not be holding two conflicting posts - one which is status neutral and the other which is speaking on behalf of the pro-independence countries.

This is totally wrong.

It seems that he thinks the political pressure to please everyone with a fudged response has worked on the ICJ. We shall see. Personally, I believe it would be a disaster because it would illustrate the end of the ICJ being viewed as impartial, apolitical or genuine.

But what the heck is he doing using the floor granted to him as the EU representative to speak on behalf of the ICO? Brussels and the UN are allowing him to make a mockery of the whole system.

The reassurance in his statements is that they just smack of desperation.

"The problem is that people are allowing the pride of a few MEN to the futures of many people. Serbs and Albanians alike must put aside their differences and sit down like two peoples who have to live and work together and negotiate a solution that is acceptable to both. For those of you who cannot see this, you must really like war and the horrific scenes it creates. What a shame.
(Daniel,"

Daniel the "few" who are holdng Kosovo hostige are northern baffoons sponsored by Serbia, and judging from their "votes" are so few to make anything work.
K Serbs have their own representatives who want to move on, and there is Serbs in Serbia and abroad who claim rediculous conclussions just as you do.

The only people that want war are Serbs, they have abused the UN with questions that they do not care an answer for, they have poluted the european courts with basless fabrications and manipulations, ect ect.

The whole world can recognize Kosovo, but until the following states recognize them:

1) Russia and China
2) Spain, Romania, Greece, Slovakia and Cyprus

It really does not matter.

Russia and China are necessary to complete the UNSC endorsement of the general assembly's vote to accept Kosovo's membership in the UN (and all other organizations as a result thereof), otherwise even the 2/3 majority means nothing.

Spain, Romania, Greece, Slovakia and Cyprus are necessary for Kosovo's Euro-Atlantic ambitions, without even just one vote from either of these states, Kosovo is not going anywhere.

So Pieter Feith should "except" votes from sources such as these, rather than some ridiculous island republics in the Pacific, which mean absolutely nothing for Kosovo (since no one in Kosovo except the politicans and mafia can actually afford to go there on holiday).

Also, I have noticed that Albanians love to mock the seven nations I mentioned above as being insignificant. Why is that? You know they have power over your destiny as a state, and are all much richer and better developed than Kosovo will be in years.

Come on guys, come back to earth, your independence is a done deal, but it means nothing except that.

The whole world can recognize Kosovo, but until the following states recognize them:

1) Russia and China
2) Spain, Romania, Greece, Slovakia and Cyprus

(Peter Sudyka, 9 June 2010 14:06)

Peter

You are wrong. If all the world doesn't recognise BUT only the G7 then you are indpendent.

When push come sto shove the entire world gives way to the G7 stratgy to the new global political and economic order.

Kosovo is independent in every way possible, recognistion just confirm this further.
Is this a news??
(PRN, 9 June 2010 10:21)

Then why is this Dutchman your head of state? He can destroy every (!) decision made in Kosovo!
(Ron, 9 June 2010 11:19)

Ron again,

Feith is friend of Kosovars, and, as you can see, he lobbies for Kosovo independence. I hope you are not so ignorant to think that any International official that we called to assist us temporary (until June 2012) can be against Kosovo independence, or against decisions that pro-independence.

Remember once and for all that we dont accept international officials to help us, if the individual is against us or our cause.

We thank again the EU taxpayers and NATO countries for giving us FREE advice and security until the latest end 2012 or mid 2013.

We will always be grateful for this.

"The reassurance in his statements is that they just smack of desperation.
kate

If just desperation than why are you criticizing him so vehemently? Are you afraid that the ICJ will not go your way? So if the ICJ decision is not for your likening than it is immediately not objective?

Kosovo is independent in every way possible, recognistion just confirm this further.
Is this a news??
(PRN, 9 June 2010 10:21)

Then why is this Dutchman your head of state? He can destroy every (!) decision made in Kosovo!

Pieter Feith is correct in his assertion that Hague decision “will not change anything regarding the position of the countries that recognized Kosovo”.
The legal argument has been initiated exclusively by the current Serbian regime as the sole and last feasible option to contest. Contesting nonetheless doesn’t necessarily mean that even the Serbian legal team is assured on the outcome of the ruling.
The flipside of the coin is that Serbia’s gamble might backfire badly. The argument of sovereign territorial integrity of a state like Serbia might be severally put in jeopardy by a vague ruling of JCI.
States like Romania, Slovakia, Greece, and Spain and beyond that have also exclusively relied on the legal interpretation put forward by Serbia might run out of ammunition for no fault of their own.
Sooner or later this unholy alliance is bound to fall down like a house of cards.

Kosovo is independent in every way possible
PRN

Is that why your so called head of state Thaci was searched at the Pritina airport by EULEX. How embarrassing for him and Kosovos so called independence.

Sheridan,
in WWII, most of Serbia's neighbours, and in fact all of central europe, wanted a nazi-europe mega-state.

What should i suppose is your stance on that?

let me guess..

when smth fits USA/UK's agenda, its european, else, its tagged nazi/communist/etc..

am i correct?

PS
its a fact, no country gives a damn about Kosovo (except Serbia/FYROM/USA/UK), neither cant they locate it on the map...

In the future, i would expect recognitions from Banana republics and de-recognitions from serious countries.

'Feith claimed that "Kosovo is a sustainable country on the way to becoming a multi-ethnic democracy".

Ok, where do I start? LOL Sustainable country?? Multi-ethnic democracy? What is this guy smoking?? Pass the bong please. It's comedy hour.

Getting these recognitions is like swimming in mud, isn't it Peter.

From reading Feith's statement one sane person can conclude that this latest round of shape throwing is for domestic consumption only.

Nothing to see here, move on.

Also, I have noticed that Albanians love to mock the seven nations I mentioned above as being insignificant. Why is that? You know they have power over your destiny as a state, and are all much richer and better developed than Kosovo will be in years.
Peter

"richer and better developed"
'So what?? Everything is
relative. They are however much poorer than the USA and Western European countries.
Just because Kosovo is poorer does not mean that they should give up their independence and go back to Serbia. Or that what you would like to see? Why? While you Poles enjoy your independence why do you want to deny it to 2 million people who suffered so much?

This statement is absolutely useless. Nobody, neither Serb nor Albanian wants a mixed decision. What good would that do for anyone I ask? The simple answer is nothing. A mixed decision would mean a mixed world where neither Serbia nor Kosovo's Albanians have full control over the territory. Kosovo will not be permitted into the UN and its sports teams will not be permitted to play in most international events. Serbs in the North will continue to pledge allegiance to Serbia and those Albanians south of the Ibar will continue to be governed by Albanian leaders. His prediction is the worst case scenario for everyone. I ask you, do Albanians in Kosovo want another 10 or 20 recognitions? What good would it do unless there is full recognition? Again, the answer is nothing. This is a foolish problem that can only be solved by negotiation. The problem is that people are allowing the pride of a few MEN to the futures of many people. Serbs and Albanians alike must put aside their differences and sit down like two peoples who have to live and work together and negotiate a solution that is acceptable to both. For those of you who cannot see this, you must really like war and the horrific scenes it creates. What a shame.

This statement is absolutely useless. Nobody, neither Serb nor Albanian wants a mixed decision.
[...]
(Daniel, 9 June 2010 12:01)

You are wrong. A "mixed decision" would just confirm what the Albanian/Kosovo side always said. Recognitions fall to the question of souvereignity, i.e. it is up to the countries and their governments if they want to recognize Kosovo. This way of dealing with foreign countries is not only one of the base principles of international law, but common practice ever since humankind invented "states". No court on earth can rule on that. The ICJ is actually only checking if the circumstances which lead to declaration of independence are in accordance with international law, not the independence itself, since it has no authority to do so.

That is why a "mixed decision" is most likely to come out. However, Serbia needs a clear victory if it wants to have at least a theoretical chance to gain Kosovo. But even for that unlikely outcome many governments already stated that they will not change their decision, leading back to what souvereignty was, is and always will be: a pillar of independence of those states. The fact that most of the 3rd world countries didn't recognize Kosovo, yet, doesn't help Serbia either, since it is an European issue, not an African or South American. In fact, the direct neighborhood including the core countries of the Western world are the only decisive ones in this question, since it is them with which Serbian and Kosovo deal with more than 95%.

Another solution?

[link]
(Anon,9 june 2010)

This is no more than exercise of a free speech.This person is totaly irelevant,more vasted money for ...Serb taxpayers.

It must be time for silly statements in Pristina again.

So let's see. First Feith expects new recognitions. This itself it a yawn since we've been waiting on that "wave" for years now and when recognitions do come, they tend to be underwhelming. I don't know what was lamer - Swaziland's or Somalia's. Either way, they are meaningless in altering the status quo and only appear to get Albanians on this site excited.

But then Feith claims he's "speaking in the name of the countries that recognized Kosovo's independence". Ok, so now he's Washington's errand boy? Why can't these countries make these statements on their own? Maybe they don't want to prejudice the ICJ decision? Or maybe they don't want to hitch the horse to a cart they don't know will arrive. Furthermore, why get all excited about new recognitions when he predicted a "mixed opinion" that will "satisfy Belgrade" and "to an extent" support Kosovo? "To an extent"? By this terminology, Pristina needs a home run in order to get any recognitions that mean anything and knock Belgrade out of the game.

The rest of his statements are once again filled with sentences that are grammatically correct but mean little. We get the "notable progress" statement even though EULEX is gearing up to arrest most of Pristina's leadership for corruption and embezzlement. We get some vague reference to Serbs accepting their lot in Kosovo because around 20% in a municipality that has clearly demonstrated its disgust is everyone and anything are indirectly particpating in the elections he mandated. Never mind they did everything they could to preserve their phone service last month after Pristina tried to kill it.

Might as well finish off the silly report with another reference to Kosovo being the happiest place on Earth.

Again, if you're going to lie, you either need to lie convincingly to make what you say somewhat credible. Or if you know you don't have a chance at all, you might as well have fun. It seems Feith is opting for the latter.

Or that what you would like to see? Why? While you Poles enjoy your independence why do you want to deny it to 2 million people who suffered so much?
(Joe, 9 June 2010 15:24)
Such parallel can be set up only by someone who totally lacks knowlage of history additinally has no sense of justice.As opposed to Albanians Poles secrificed a lot against europe's inside and outside enemies(I know as an antichristian and anti- european heavily pro-Turk and pro-Hitlerist you do not appriciate this fact) similarly to Serbs.Your cuddled narcoteroreist run albanians were the best bootlickers and shoepolishers of your beloved Turks as a reward being given territories from where those who dared to fight turks were ethnicly cleansed.Additionally as a hungarian jew you should know that Poles saved most of your people when they were persecuted througout Europe and fough for Independence of Hungary several times while unfortunatell many hungarians such as for example priests and bishops of pseudochristian grecocatholic church were eagerly serving habsurg interests instead.

Well, even when I don't disagree with that assessment so I recommand to wait. For the time being, we can say that Serbia's attempt to bring recognitions with the ICJ case on halt was a failure. And judging from the recent comments of desparation from Belgrade, it is something going on behind the curtain.

Interesting link, Anon. Could be an idea, though it sounds tricky and complicated. In my option, a partition is still the best and most simple solution for the Kosovo mess.
This might oppose the idea of a "multi-ethnic democracy of Kosovo", but it's an illusion, anyway.

Toke the only ridiculous thing about Daniel's post is your response to it.

Your assertion that Serbs want war is clearly wrong. Everybody has seen that Serbia has pursued the issue diplomatically, everybody knows that it was Serbia that pushed this to the ICJ.

Further, as far as war like conduct is concerned - have the Serbs in Serbia been attacking Albanians in the way that the Albanians have been doing with Serbs in Kosovo?

Tadic has made it as clear as crystal that violence / war is not an option.

Obviously Serbs don't war, even if a minority of Serbs would be willing to fight.

Quite why you must savagely attack somebody who is only calling for negotiations (diplomacy) and accuse them of wanting war is beyond me.
Its sounds as if you are more afraid of peace than war.
I expected better from you.

Joe, is your real name George Soros?? It would only make sense.

It seems the Feith has been in Pristina for too long. He's starting to sound like Thaci.

Another solution?

http://transconflict.com/2010/05/kosovo-divisible-sovereignty/

Then why is this Dutchman your head of state? He can destroy every (!) decision made in Kosovo!
(Ron, 9 June 2010 11:19)
Actually you could not be more wrong. Try reading 1244 sometime complete with the Rambouillet Accords and you will learn alot. However, as long as your interest only lies in trying to irritate the Kosovo Albanians, I don't expect any serious reading on your part.
The part in 1244 that says taking in full account of the Rambouillet accords it spells out exactly what powers the govt of Kosovo has, in detail. But even without considering The Rambouillet accords, 1244 says that the authorities will be turned over to the democratically elected govt of Kosovo as the head of UNMIK has done.
I realize that he should have ignored his mandate and asked permission from Ron but it did not happen.

“The only people that want war are Serbs, they have abused the UN with questions that they do not care an answer for, they have poluted the european courts with basless fabrications and manipulations, ect ect.”said Toke


What abuse of the UN? The only state that abuses the UN is the USA all together with some satellite European countries.
Do I have to mention how grossly UN was abused prior to NATO’s air strike against Serbia? Do I have to mention how grossly UN was abused by ignoring and continuolsy violating the UNSC’s resolution 1244. Do you know how badly UN continues to be abused by pressuring countries all over the world to recognise Kosovo?

War? What kind of war are you talking about? If Belgrade’s explicit stance against recognition is seen as a war, then ok, let it be.

The thing is, my dear friends, that recognition from Belgrade is not coming despite the threats and blackmails that we are continuously exposed to.
That is our diplomatic right that we choose.

I can agree that the ICJ’ s opinion won’t change anything whatever the outcome of the final decision is. That won’t change the matter a bit. Neither will halt further forced recognitions.

However, asking for ICJ’s opinion was reasonable diplomatic move since there is always chance to win.After all what are the courts for? In case that final decision gets positive for Serbia, Belgrade will always have right to claim what is ours. Actually, positive decision would only confirm resolution 1244 and strengthen our position in future.

I think that Belgrade can wait very long. But can Pristina afford to wait for that long with unresolved status and dispute over sovereignty?

I trully believe that something created by use of force is doomed to failure, sooner or later.

Serbia on the other hand, with or without Kosovo, won’t ever join the EU and that is crystal clear. I only hope that our leaders can see that too.Do they pretend not to see or...? Where they are aiming to is beyond me.
The thing that really bothers me with this government is their unwillingness to give up their EU ambitions and focus on real problems that affect country’s well-being and reputation.

Joe, is your real name George Soros?? It would only make sense.
(Dragan, 9 June 2010 19:05)
Well actually his mentaliy(and background) is more similar to that of Tom Lantos(the big protector of all kind of criminals such as Hodorkovski ,Tasnádi Péter(the biggest criminal in hungary in 90s) or albanian narcoterrorists whom he offered help as early as 1988).If the latter one was alive I would think that he is the one posting here.Their ideas rhetorics and even logic are so similar.Funnily enough there is another Lantos clone on hungarian forum Mr Henel of whom I and Ataman for a long time belived to be Joe himself because of the ideological similirates.

Your cuddled narcoteroreist run albanians were the best bootlickers and shoepolishers of your beloved Turks as a reward being given territories from where those who dared to fight turks were ethnicly cleansed.
(szemi, 9 June 2010 17:56)

This is not just, Szemi.

1) How you spell "Λασκαρίνα Μπουμπουλίνα" in Hungarian ;-)
2) Please count how many NON-ALBANIANS you see on that video... I tried and I am still at a number smaller than 10. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78OcEBJPmgM

Now what is going on, I am the defender of Albanians?

OK, watch this and what is the language of the songs? That explains - and we all know that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoG5ecO60lY

How come? Well, of course Albanians like everyone else have some really bad smelling rotten apples. Like I don't think the proud nation of Armenians who suffered so much during the history are very proud of an Armenian whose Hungarized name is Ferenc Szálasi.

On this forum most Albanians are protective to a ridiculous degree, use very primitive arguments which just make me explode sometimes - and I am even sometimes wondering, are they maybe paid for trolling or maybe they are straight provocators?

I firmly distinguish between people I met in Kosovo from these creatures...Luckily there are few Albanian posters here with whom I am happy to agree to disagree and have no hard feelings. I am not thinking about P(ristina)R(idiculous)N(azi) of course.

We really admire *** SOME *** (or many if you like) Albanians. But the ones you mention do exist, unfortunately.

Like: it is 100% true, that the very core of Hungarian heavy cavalry and also inventors of iron-clad horsemen were... Jews. It is true, that most ingenious Hungarians are/were Ashkenazim. Question: does that hook-nosed little greedy, ugly insidious creature in black hat exist? Of course, it does. Our duty is to pray and do everything to be similar to the iron-clad horsemen or to Pál Erdös... and kill the ugly little creature inside of us.

Albanians have a similar task - I don't want mention names. And who is real out there, please be less protective. That helps to improve your image.

Now there is U.S. establishment and E.U. bureaucracy as a new sugar daddy, replacing Ottomans and Hitler. Let's see for how long lemmings will praise them.

The entire Serbian-Albanian conflict is a PRIMITIVE TRIBAL CONFLICT now dressed up in some more fancy form. I have to admit, I am firmly on a certain side of that conflict for whatever reason, probably a primitive and tribal reason. I am a primitive majmun, too. At least I admit that ;-)

"I know as an antichristian and anti- european heavily pro-Turk and pro-Hitlerist you do not appriciate this fact".
Szemi

So me as Greek-Catholic I am "antichristian"? Since when?
You must have had a very bad day to come up with something like this.

"anti- european"...not a "pro-european" for valid reasons would be more correct

"pro-Turk"...did my latest anti-Turk comments sounded pro-Turk to you? If yes you really have an understanding/jugement problem.

"pro-Hitlerist"... far-rightists like you act like that type. Oh I suppose you call me that because once I questioned the logic of the Polish cavaly attacking German tanks in WWII and the way 12 million German civilians were expulsed by Poles. How did I dare to defend those civilians?(...some of them with Polish names I met lateron why I worked in Germany).

"Additionally as a hungarian jew you should know"

You are really on the dark side of the moon. If I were Jewish I would not hide it but acknowledge it PROUDLY like all American Jews. They have reason to be proud of all their accomplishments. Far-rightist antisemitic Hungarians like you who are unable to hold a stady job could learn a great deal from them.

"unfortunatell many hungarians such as for example priests and bishops of pseudochristian grecocatholic church were eagerly serving habsurg interests instead."
szemi

You are really mixed up..big time...so what am I?

A Jew and a Greek-Catholic at the same time? Did you drink some palinka? It was just yesterday that your new PM came up with the glorious idea of allowing free palinka making in his "action-plan" to make every Hungarian happy and drunk. After such great anouncement you should be really happy and not attack a Greek-catholic Jew like me.
What kind of attacks can I expect if your new government will be a colosal desapointment? Will you attack Jews and Greek-catholics even more?

Madeleine yes, but Bill? Where did you get that? If that would be the case more people would know about it.
(Joe, 10 June 2010 17:15)

The basis of that rumor is the fact, that Bill Clinton's mom was Virginia Dell Cassidy. "Dell" alone rises some suspicion, Cassidy, too. That is enough for the rumor. My mom believes in that 100%.

OK, maybe these rumors are completely wrong - but that Monica Lewinsky is a Jew is 1000% guaranteed. Just look at her name, she is certainly a Levite.

Levite or not: wish her best health and may her bite be as strong as of a lion. ;-)

It seems that he thinks the political pressure to please everyone with a fudged response has worked on the ICJ. We shall see. Personally, I believe it would be a disaster because it would illustrate the end of the ICJ being viewed as impartial, apolitical or genuine.

But what the heck is he doing using the floor granted to him as the EU representative to speak on behalf of the ICO? Brussels and the UN are allowing him to make a mockery of the whole system.

The reassurance in his statements is that they just smack of desperation.
(kate, 9 June 2010 10:01)
Someone who is ruled against, claiming that the justice system is corrupt, what a novel idea.
The only people who will be disillusioned by any decision here will be the nationalists posting here.
I really doubt Serbia itself will proclaim the court itself to be corrupt, and if it does then it will only be viewed as rantings of a child being made to stand in the corner.
Seeing that Feith continues to keep his posts which any of your 5 countries could lead a campaign to remove him, it seems that there is no official disagreement with his stance and remarks.
As far as the desperation remark, it is becoming all to common a favorite phrase from the Serbian camp--kind of like an act of desperation, you think?

this is nice!
wasting time analyzing what Feith said! who cares???!!! what is done is done. independent or not, Serbia will never have Kosovo again.
just curious: serbs and Serbia say kosovo is ours and etcc. why dont u say the same for Croatia, MonteNegro, Bosnia, Sllovenia, Macedonia??? maybe cos Kosovo was the last remebrance of the dead Yugosllavia???
i dont give a damn what do some pseudo-patriotic serbs and albanias comment in here. i really feel sorry that most serbs still think Kosovo belongs to them cos they have been deceived!!!
one german diplomat once said: Kosovo was a error of the great powers and now its time to fix it!
not a brit, a german!
anyway.
some guy there was mocking about recognitions like Swaziland and Somalia! they're votes, mate!

"... like Madeleine Korbel Albright, or Bill Clinton as half-Jew."
Ataman

Madeleine yes, but Bill? Where did you get that? If that would be the case more people would know about it.
Good example is Kerry, who was running for president. He is catholic but his grand-father was a Jew from Prag. After emigrating to the US he became catholic than committed suicide few years later. It is amazing how all personal details are found out once somebody becomes a politician or tries to run for an office.

'Feith claimed that "Kosovo is a sustainable country on the way to becoming a multi-ethnic democracy".

It's silly season in Pristina. Oh wait that should be Groundhog Day.

Bill Murray, how are ye?

I just cross my fingers that if I look in the mirror I won't need to vomit one day.
(Ataman, 10 June 2010 14:41)
Perhaps not I do not think you have too much common with panenka Korbelova HasimTaci's adopted grandmother.

"OK, maybe these rumors are completely wrong - but that Monica Lewinsky is a Jew is 1000% guaranteed. Just look at her name, she is certainly a Levite.

Levite or not: wish her best health and may her bite be as strong as of a lion. ;-)
Ataman

I agree. And I am sure Monica did a good job.
That remind me of a Hungarian Jewish girl I knew for a short but pleasent time in Germany. With a big breast she looked like Marylin Monroe. Since all my friends envied me I felt like Mickey Hargitay.
Her mother cut me off because I did not comply on one Saturday with her request. I brought back her daughter very late instead of "sundown" time on Sabetz.
Still, to paraphrase the title of a German movie "Ich Denke oft an Piroschka" (I think often about Piroschka) I would say "I denke oft an Andrea".

Joe

""pro-Hitlerist"... far-rightists like you act like that type. Oh I suppose you call me that because once I questioned the logic of the Polish cavaly attacking German tanks in WWII and the way 12 million German civilians were expulsed by Poles. How did I dare to defend those civilians?(...some of them with Polish names I met lateron why I worked in Germany)."

Firstly, Polish cavalry did not charge German tanks, this was a Nazi propaganda campaign which obviously you have bought into.

Secondly, the expulsions of ethnic Germans from newly acquired lands is purely the work of our communist authorities, which we modern Poles cannot be held guilty for. That would be as stupid as me saying that the 1956 Budapest riots were Hungarians killing Hungarians. Same thing.

"Or that what you would like to see? Why? While you Poles enjoy your independence why do you want to deny it to 2 million people who suffered so much?
(Joe, 9 June 2010 15:24)"

I am simply against the way the entire independence campaign was carried out, and it was completely unfair to Serbia who had gotten rid of Milosevic, the perpetrator of crimes in Kosovo themselves, so why should they be held to blame for Milosevic's JNA crimes?

Also sorry, but what the Kosovars went through was a drop in the ocean compared with what other Europeans have suffered in the past. Cowardly Albanians converted to islam to avoid fighting for what they thought was right, while countries like Germany and Poland lost about 30% of their populations during the 30 years war and Deluge respectively, and Russia lost 40 million people during communism and world war II combined, Ukraine lost 7 million in the holodomor (if not more), Poland lost 5 million (granted, 3 million were jews) and Germany lost 10 million so this few thousand that Albanians lost in Kosovo War is nothing compared with what Germanic and Slavic nations have lost in their histories.

If I were Jewish I would not hide it but acknowledge it PROUDLY like all American Jews.
(Joe, 10 June 2010 03:21)

"Thanks" Joe - how about real ones, not the insidious ugly creatures... like Madeleine Korbel Albright, or Bill Clinton as half-Jew. May their humanitarian bombs explode in their stomaches for eternity.

Some Jews in USA and Hungary I know are such, I want to vomit every time I look at them. You got two examples, but I promise you there are quite a few more.

I just cross my fingers that if I look in the mirror I won't need to vomit one day.

Someone said in here said:

"I trully believe that something created by use of force is doomed to failure, sooner or later."

Then you must have anticipated the "doomed to failure" greater serbia project in the 90's,

(PRN, 9 June 2010 14:34)

There is no G7 anymore. It’s now the G20 my friend. You seem to have overlooked the fact that the west has seceded economic control to other upcoming powers. You should keep up with the times.

Feith is only blowing smoke up the proverbial. If Kosovo is that sustainable then ask the genius why doesn’t the US invest in Kosovo? It has openly stated that Serbia is of no interest so I say invest in Kosovo, but you Albanians will never ask that question because the answer is glaringly obvious.

I recall that it was claimed that 2010 was the official date for the Kosovo Army to take over. They are stringing you along. When you get near to 2012 it will be 2014 then 2018 then 2022………

Status quo continues.

I expected better from you.
(bganon, 9 June 2010 16:12)
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Really! You must be the only one. I have been readig this guy's posts and I can tell you that I don't expect him to make any sense at all.

not surprising to read something like that, since it is Feith´s only task to be the speaker of those who are supporting the illegal freak-creation on southern-serbian soil.

the best part for me is the one, where he is predicting the ICJ outcome... =)

well, Mr.Feith, do you know more about it?
and if so, what would you do if Serbia stood up against the obvious breach of international law?

you know, Tadic & Co. are replacable, and the serbian people can´t be bought that cheap like some other ethnicities that are bordering Serbia.

let´s just sit and wait, and then we will see.

but, I´ll tell you something, that even a dutch bureaucrat like you should understand:

in regard to the law, there is only one outcome possible - the one in favour of Serbia´s territorial integrity.

everything else would be a scandal, and... no lasting solution.

so, all in all, this is more of some kind of nice talk aimed at the k-albanians, nothing more.

If I were in their shoes, I would be suspicious if they were giving me this kind of "nice-talk"...

but, as far as we can see here, they do not think further than to celebrate irrelevant opinions of temporary officials...

. Far-rightist antisemitic Hungarians like you who are unable to hold a stady job could learn a great deal from them.

Joe, 10 June 2010 03:21)

There are some posters, so-called peaceniks, who are nothing more than blind, inconditional supporters of those radical islamists. That is the reason why these peaceniks can't influence their own governments. There are like the fifth column of those radical islamists and states like Turkey/Iran.
(Joe, 8 June 2010 17:45)

Haha.This is funny .Joe you are accused by many of cold war mentality on this forum.I would rather say you are a bit outdated with your ideas .When it comes to antisemitism you and the state of Israel are the best examples with the anti-palestinian ideas and policy.So when someone does not agree with Israeli terror the one must be labelel as nazi or fifth column of islamist.How sad that nobody belives anymore in such low-level accusations.And those narrow minded texts regarding setady job.Are you envious that there people who can afford not to sit 8 or 10 hours in the office making profits for others.Or simply if someone does not have a steady job the one is automaticly some inferior lazy person according to you.Well the most active and productive people I have known did not have steadsy jobs but it did not mean they did not work.On the contrary.Simply they are free and involed in many activities .Well I am proud not to have ever been steadily employed.But I worked since the age of 14(by that time as a lazy good for nothing lad I already knew 5 languaages) doing some translations besides visiting at least 2 trainings a day as a modern pentatlonist .Since the age of 17 I have not relied on my parents' money though Ataman himself may testify that I could have afforded it.Today I am the co- owner of a gokart track(where current polish F1 driver Robert Kubica developed his skills ) a stud-farm breeding excelent horses and shop selling soccer related items.Is it really a big sin that I do not hold a study job?

Joe: "That remind me of a Hungarian Jewish girl I knew for a short but pleasent time in Germany. With a big breast she looked like Marylin Monroe. Since all my friends envied me I felt like Mickey Hargitay."

Joe, eeeugh - you're making my computer feel infected and out-of-date. What century are you living in politically and socially? Was this during the 1940s?

You need to get out a bit more into the modern world.

P.S. I don't think her mother stopped you seeing her for that reason - she probably had her sleazedar on full alert.

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