“Serbs, Albanians could reach historic compromise”

PRN - The charge of genocide was dropped by the UN years ago. And why should Serbia trade even more territory, let alone the province of Kosovo which is still legally within its boundaries?

The idea of a Greater Albania will never come to fruition. The 'international community' is calling the shots and there is no way they would support such a thing.

PRN

Nodoby is going to allow your united Albania in the international community because they have cryeated enough of a mess with Kosovo already. The only thing that is inevitable is that if Albanians push for their Greater Albania, it will result in war, only this time NATO won't back Albanians because they would have instigated the conflict.

And then do you think you would have a chance against even Macedonia, let alone Serbia or especially Greece in terms of military?

Give up the chauvinism. It will never happen.

“Serbs, Albanians could reach historic compromise”

Vuk,

I agree with you this time providing that you meant that you ought to put on the table Kragujevc, Nis, Novi Pazar and Presevo valley, then apologize for genocide and be ready to pay reparations.

Jeremic, you dont need to recognise Kosovo independence but recognise the reality that United Albania is an INEVITABILITY.

Then this would mean that finally “Serbs, Albanians could reach historic compromise” and become good neighbours towards each other.

Any other proposed solution rather than the one above will create only conflicts and troubles and and such will only find the way in the dust-bin

“The separatists have tried to forcibly change the borders of Serbia, they have not succeeded, thanks in large part to the solidarity of over three quarters of OAS countries which have not recognized Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence. In the name of the Republic of Serbia, I express my profound appreciation for their principled position, rooted in the basic precepts of international law,” Jeremić stated.

First of all Vuk, keeps calling Albanians all kinds of names and he excpects to have a constructive dialog. How can it be?

Second; The borders have not changed a bit, since these borders were defined since ww2. In old yugo, the same border existed, but since old yugo disentegrated, the border lines are clear as cristal.

PRN yes of course, thats a deal! Perhaps we could throw in Belgrade and Novi Sad as well.
And if you promise to support us in Bosnia we can hand you Banja Luka too!

Why you bother writing such posts is beyond me... They don't help anybody, are highly unrealistic and even many Kosovo Albanians do not support them.

Jeremic, you dont need to recognise Kosovo independence but recognise the reality that United Albania is an INEVITABILITY.

(PRN, 7 June 2010 10:47

Your daily comments are so predictable.Full of boasting and threats like coming out of a comic book.I am sure no poster takes you seriously.

My advice to you will be to be content with Albania's existing borders.Remember that you have no friends in the balkans.

Jeremic's (or whoever) usage of the word "compromise" is one of the biggest euphemistics one can imagine. What is the "compromise" in a Yes-or-No Question? What lies between independence and dependence? Even the stupidiest one must understand that there is no possible room for compromise. Kosovo is either independent or not. And we have been no through this for almost a decade. There is nothing to discuss about which has been stated now by more and more representatives from the West.

This whole farce of the Serbian political class is just an attempt of avoiding reality. It is unfortunate but there is no way to make this situation for Serbs conveniant. You lost the war which you started and for that Kosovo is independent.

Every Serbian politician who promises that Kosovo will be one time again part of Serbia either lies or hopes for a war in which the job of the 1990s can be completed.

So stop waisting time and start preparing your people for the future.

Albanians cant threaten anyone with conflict with their KPS pistols, rifles & jeeps. Take a good look at how the Sri Lankan Tamils ended up. Thats your future IF you dont compromise, ie: reintegrate. Your allies are economically weak & dependent on RUS for energy, they're withdrawing from KiM and co-operating with Serbia, the Balkan's biggest weapons exporter, biggest army base a short walk from KiM and a modernized army. Wanna end up like Tamils? Then fight.

So we Serbs offer you historic compromise and all you Albanians know to do is be stubborn that you want endless conflict?
Oh my Albanians..... :) Believe me we work night and day not just for Serbia but also for your future! Your kids will thank us one day.

I It seems that Mr Jeremic knows how to hit the nerves of some
Albanians.

I just don’t get it why such negative reactions coming from the Albanians.
Mr Jeremic said nothing wrong,. He is entitled to make an opinion on the matter and he certainly knows much more than we all do here.

One thing Albanians should be aware of ( including EU's and the USA's politicans) that Belgrade won’t ever recognise Kosovo who ever runs the country, unless some compromise is reached.

I am not trying to say that there are no politicians in Serbia who would like to trade Kosovo for the sake of speedy entrance into EU, but the thing is that they are not ready for such move and have no guts to do that.

I am surprised that British ambassador in Belgrade, while making such ridiculous statements few days ago, does not know how the things function in Balkan, particularly in Serbia.

They should all know that not a one Serbian politician will ever sign Kosovo off because not one of them want to end up in history books branded as a traitor by signing off a cradle of our identity . Another reason is fear for own life.
If nothing else, Serbian history teaches us that many of those who were directly involved in the faith of the country and who were suspected as “traitors” were assassinated.
Those bizarre moments in our history may even “serve as a purpose” nowadays.

Therefore, what ever the ICJ’s final decision may be, negotiations must take place again and again until some acceptable compromise is reached for both sides.

Well, when we all know this for fact, is there any other solution than to reach some compromise?
Compromise, what ever is, is always better than one day of war.
And that compromise should not be reached just for the sake of EU ambitions, but for the sake of all of us.

Status quo is unsustainable and hurts only Albanians. I think it would be in their best interest not to ignore what Belgrade has to say and offer. In the end, Belgrade can wait for century if needed since there is clear stance that there is no trade of Kosovo for the EU.

As per unification of Kosovo and Albania, I daresay that such attempt would only lead to new bloodshed.
I don’t think that even the USA and the EU are ready to let that happen.
No one wants another war, at least not for the time being.

Could, but I doubt it. Talks for another 20 years will not help anyone, whatever it is let's solve it right now.

The funny part: EU is probably going away, long live UK, USA and....Turkey for the Balkans. But then it might not go away so Balkans still need to go through the motions to get that $300 million a year from EU and be ready just in case.

My predictions is that Greece is thrown out of EUROzone due to debt and deficit limitations (must leave EU first) and then we all will be outsiders again.

Thank god Albania has 6 billion barrels of oil and the coast, otherwise, no hope.

Hey guys. Look where he is addressing the OAS meeting. He is in Lima. Lima is capital Peru and Peru has already recognized Kosovo. Since Peru is relatively small country why he did not ask for its ambassador to leave back then, just like he did with ambassadors of Macedonia and Montenegro.
Very childish diplomacy

"It is very encouraging to see Serbia's commitment to democracy and democratic institutions, to improving the protection of human rights, promoting development, strengthening security and prosperity for all citizens" Jeremic obviously failed to mention Presevo, Medvegje or Bujanovc.

Jeremic declaration cannot be taken and are not taken seriously anywhere, including Serbia.Why?
He has changed his views so many time during these 2 years, he has ben humiliated by his European colleagues many times, he has sat in the same table with Kosovo foreign minister. So, he will change his view again in few months time.

Historical compromise? Does this means that a split of Kosovo is coming closer?

So we Serbs offer you historic compromise and all you Albanians know to do is be stubborn that you want endless conflict?
Oh my Albanians..... :) Believe me we work night and day not just for Serbia but also for your future! Your kids will thank us one day.
(Fruskija, 7 June 2010 14:53)

What compromise??, You are offering exactly what Kosovo had in the 80's before it was revoked.
Summation: You had it, we took it away, you revolted, we attempted annilation, NATO bombed us, UN/EU poured billions into the area to resolve the issue, we half heartedly negotiatied, you declared independence, most major international players have recognized, now our future is frozen without sometype of consensus on the issue, so we will give you what you had in the 80's and you should be greatful.
I can see everyone jumping on that bandwagon!

Look guys, don't dismiss PRN so quickly. If Albania became a province of Serbia then we could create the United Serbian Provinces of Kosovo and Albania (USPKA). Serbia would then contain everything PRN dreams of. Problem solved.

Here is probably the most accurate summation of the situation I have read:
http://waz.euobserver.com/887/30219
Especially the very last sentence.

Albanians cant threaten anyone with conflict with their KPS pistols, rifles & jeeps. Take a good look at how the Sri Lankan Tamils ended up. Thats your future IF you dont compromise, ie: reintegrate. Your allies are economically weak & dependent on RUS for energy, they're withdrawing from KiM and co-operating with Serbia, the Balkan's biggest weapons exporter, biggest army base a short walk from KiM and a modernized army. Wanna end up like Tamils? Then fight.
(highduke, 7 June 2010 14:02)

you looking at the wrong place. why don't you look what happened in East Timor.

Jeremic, you dont need to recognise Kosovo independence but recognise the reality that United Albania is an INEVITABILITY.

(PRN, 7 June 2010 10:47

Your daily comments are so predictable.
(Leonidas, 7 June 2010 12:33)

Prediability, at least has or shows limits/constrains up-to-where you can go....and warns you DONT CROSS RED LINE.

Wehereas Serbia is so hypocritical and unpredictable, far beyond stupidity.

Jeremic continues to impress me and I think for such a young man, he's got a promising future ahead of him. Many had thought - nay expected - Belgrade to roll over and accept Kosovo-UNMIK's UDI but Jeremic has shown the best of 21st century Serbian inat – much to the chagrin of powers that allegedly have far more clout on the international stage.

I particularly like the language used by him. While Belgrade appears to be the side championing compromise and negotiated solutions within international legal parameters, it's the West, particularly Washington and London that are sounding more extreme and uncompromising in their views with "Kosovo is a done deal" and "no new negotiations". That they keep having to dig their heels in deeper means they can only entrench themselves further in this diplomatic screwup. Belgrade may not be able to directly push back the weight of Washington, London, or Berlin, but it can significantly make policies of unilateralism look unsustainable and undemocratic. Even if a negotiated solution over Kosovo means accepting the status quo as is now – Albanian and Serb partition with non-interference from one over the other, Belgrade will have achieved a considerable diplomatic victory. This should certainly fly in the face of all those who continue to think Serbia is only isolating itself.

"Serbs, Albanians could reach historic compromise"

Or the Albanians could wake up to themselves.

"Why you [PRN] bother writing such posts is beyond me... They don't help anybody, are highly unrealistic and even many Kosovo Albanians do not support them." (bganon)

-- I'm really beginning to think PRN isn't Albanian. Aside from the fact s/he calls it "Kosovo" and uses Serbian names for cities s/he wants to breed into, I've got to think this is someone deliberately trying to pose as just a big dumb Albanian nationalist to rouse emotions around here. I really cannot think any Albanian could be this ridiculously clueless, and the whole Nis – Kragujevac thing blew this person’s cover. I said at one point that PRN might be one of B92’s shock jocks, because no one could be this crazy. Notice how s/he never responds to direct questions or provides support for his/her statements. Just ridiculous post day in and day out. It's got to be for comedic value and nothing more. Think Borat but slightly more Dardanian.

The ICJ ruling will confirm Serbias ownership of Kosovo. With power comes great responsibility. Serbs have the obligation to provide a secure and prosperous environment for our albanian guests to live in peace with the indigenous Serbian population. However, we shouldn't spoil our albanian guest workers because that would result in even more albanians crossing over from their motherland of Albania.

“My country is ready to engage in a good-faith dialog that produces a solution to the Kosovo problem acceptable to all parties. Serbia will be constructive in the talks to come, for a solution needs to be found, requiring flexibility on all sides.”

He is not doing bad in fooling some countries whom don't have a clue about the history of Kosovo/a. He is trying to create the impression that "everything is going to be fine" "after the ICJ opionion" which according to Jeremic will state "Kosovo/a is Serbia")) Well at least that he want his audience to believe. The modern world like to hear the words "compromise", "being flexible", "everyone happy" etc etc nosense like that but TO PROVE MY POINT

"... Jeremić underlined that Serbia “will never accept an imposed outcome that aims to unilaterally terminate our sovereign rights in Kosovo”, adding that “this is neither just nor legitimate, or sustainable”.

Jeremić underscored that

“The separatists have tried to forcibly change the borders of Serbia, they have not succeeded, thanks in large part to the solidarity of over three quarters of OAS countries which have not recognized Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence."

So "all the talking" from Jeremic is keeping Kosovo/a under Serbia's sovereignity. Now where is the so-called Serbian "compromise" and "flexibility". I don't know whether Jeremic told to his interlocutors about the war in Kosovo/a and what was the Serbian "compromise" spirit in the war? Jeremic talk as nothing has happened in former Yugoslavia.

Possible historic compromise the article's title reads,

That can only mean partrition it is the only possible compromise between Albanians and Serbs.


PRN, the claims for novi pazar, Nis, etc.. are unrealistic, they are populated by serb majority we wouldnt want them they woundnt want us.

The only compromise is northern municipalities for presheva and bujanoci and maybe a small part of medvegja.

I have a gut feeling that when the ICJ ruling will be in kosova's favor serbia might ask for a partrition so we can end this dispute once and for all so the Serbs and Albanians can work towards building better neighbour friendly relationship.

PRN won't probably set his feet in Albania or Serbia anyway. He is a gastarbajter who forgot himself in the for-time-being-richer part of the world forever. Crying out "Albania from Paris to Sydney" is cheap, costs only few bytes of traffic.
(Ataman, 7 June 2010 17:36)

What does it cost to you then "professor"?

Your kids will thank us one day.
(Fruskija, 7 June 2010)

I like the sound of that. Wiht the way you are working our kids will be sipping their Kafe Turka and Raki in Belgrade in no time. Keep it up please.

"“The separatists have tried to forcibly change the borders of Serbia, they have not succeeded, thanks in large part to the solidarity of over three quarters of OAS countries which have not recognized Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence. In the name of the Republic of Serbia, I express my profound appreciation for their principled position, rooted in the basic precepts of international law,” Jeremić stated."

LOL the Separatists in northern Kosovo are less than 2000 now ;)
The boy who cried Wolf...

And good luck with the ICJ "IF".

"Second; The borders have not changed a bit, since these borders were defined since ww2. In old yugo, the same border existed, but since old yugo disentegrated, the border lines are clear as cristal.
(Kosova-USA, 7 June 2010 11:25)"

KOsovo was bigger till the 70's, Until the Serbs wanted more power of borders.

Your allies are economically weak & dependent on RUS for energy, they're withdrawing from KiM and co-operating with Serbia, the Balkan's biggest weapons exporter, biggest army base a short walk from KiM and a modernized army. Wanna end up like Tamils? Then fight.
(highduke, 7 June 2010 14:02)

We got the biggest military alliance in the planet to bomb you. Of course they sucked at it and bombed more refugee convoys than actual serb military but that was without precedent in human history. Can Sri Lanka top that.

Look guys, don't dismiss PRN so quickly. If Albania became a province of Serbia then we could create the United Serbian Provinces of Kosovo and Albania (USPKA). Serbia would then contain everything PRN dreams of. Problem solved.
(Zoran, 7 June 2010 16:14)

PRN won't probably set his feet in Albania or Serbia anyway. He is a gastarbajter who forgot himself in the for-time-being-richer part of the world forever. Crying out "Albania from Paris to Sydney" is cheap, costs only few bytes of traffic.

Look guys, don't dismiss PRN so quickly. If Albania became a province of Serbia then we could create the United Serbian Provinces of Kosovo and Albania (USPKA). Serbia would then contain everything PRN dreams of. Problem solved.
(Zoran, 7 June 2010 16:14)

Zoran,
why bother posting your appetite for land at the expense of Albanians?

poor comment, didnt expect that from you.

This is what a theft said to me when I caught him with his hand in my pocket: let's find a reasonable compromise it's not what you are thinking.

Why should I discuss let alone compromise with a stranger about my house???

Serbia needs to learn one and only one lesson: mind her own business.

Here is probably the most accurate summation of the situation I have read:
[link]
Especially the very last sentence.
(pss, 7 June 2010 11:34)

Interesting article and quite a possibility, PSS.
The problem with it is that Zeljko Pantelic regards the "most important EU countries and (of) the US" like a live organisms - which they are clearly not.

The deep EU crisis and the new level of economy-hysteria to which Lajos Kósa did "contribute" on Friday was not taken into account. Further - the entire Kosovo problem is maybe important to you (if you are American Albanian, not sure it is the case), but totally of secondary importance for the rest, large percentage of Serbia's population excluded of course. The entire Kosovo topic is bent by every single "EU official" the way they like and the way their personal stance is. Realistically, USA has no saying about EU policies and I think the entire situation is very much volatile.

The "Kosovo Project" (you know, what I mean) is already practically dead. I do not want to predict the outcome of ICJ, but if it is positive for Serbia - than there will be a broad scandal.

-----

Regarding Zeljko Pantelic himself. Very interesting name - hope you can read his story:

http://tinyurl.com/29ja8um

I recall, Albanians and some Americans (was it Joe or David Wright?) calling the NATO attack on RTB "justified". I guess, it was not, wasn't it? Zeljko Pantelic was there and escaped by luck only. So what is the opinion: should be it OK if he is an other "collateral damage" or not?

Meanwhile, there is no progress to report in the European integration process of Serbia.

"We are at mid 2010, Serbia is exactly where it has been in 2006. The creators of Serbian foreign policy are trying to transfer responsibility to the EU and so-called 'enlargement fatigue' for the stalemate in the European integration process, though they know very well that Serbia has been blocked, until now, exclusively due to the absence of the arrest of Ratko Mladic, suspected for the war crimes in Bosnia and the genocide in Srebrenica," an EU official told WAZ.EUobserver."

Rude awakening for Serbia.


"Mr Jeremic is followed on every trip abroad by a journalist and a cameraman from a private news agency, paid for by the foreign ministry, which means by Serbian tax payers. "

What pathos steaming out of Tadic's regime.

Mike

Sorry but you are wrong. Most albanians behave and think like PRN.

Ok, what Jeremic is saying has some value to it. I am myself a Kosovar, and do not think Jeremic has no rights to an opinion. One thing that everyone should accept is those who believe Kosovo is its own country have the right to do so, and those who do not have the right to do so. It is an opinion. However, no matter what is ruled, the reality is Kosovo will most likely never go back to Serbia. It would have been a waste of the last ten years if we just reversed the whole thing. In my opinion after the ruling, all the countries within the Balkans need to stop worrying about each other. Kosovo needs to focus, on pushing out the politicians within the government now because they do not support what this country should be supporting. And yes the wounds from the war are obviously still fresh, 100,000 Kosovars of Serbian decent were displaced and so were 700,000 Kosovars of Albanian decent. Kosovo needs to work on taking a different approach, by educating the people one important things: a history which isn't propaganda fueled on either side, mathematics & science (lack of it within the country, i.e. explains why Serbia is more modern because Serbs were educated in many areas Albanians lacked). Kosovar Albanians can not blame Serbians for any problems today because the new generation is opening their eyes, they see that the focus isn't on hating their neighbors, its growing up and letting go of their grandfather's traditions. So Kosovo will need to learn to better integrate and people must start to accept Kosovar as their identity for a future. Lets be real, the Balkans is in the middle of the East and West, it means if you guys focus on letting go of corruption, and standing up, stop focusing on history that causes problems (respect your history, but don't use it as a tool), learn from our mistakes, we can be the power of Europe. The Balkans is culturally rich, its time for politics to push out the old, the youth is realizing its time to move forward, and have a greater future.

P.S. as a Kosovar, many of us do not want a Greater Albania, it would only cause future problems (our grandparents do not influence us in that aspect so relax)

Remember;
south&north Yemen
east&west Germany
Kosovo-USA

Remember it could go the other way as well:
Serbia with Kosovo
Northern Epirus with Greece
Republika Srpska with Serbia
Srpska Krajina with Serbia

Serbia, OAS in MuO ???

MoU is correct.
Just trying to help b92 editor.

Key word: COULD.

Does not mean WILL. With so much amibiguity and gray area, this is highly unlikely and dubious at best.

Kosovo is a mess and both Serbs and albanians have done everything in their power to screw the pooch. In the end, it's the average Joe Q. public that bears the brunt of political manipulation and physical retribution. Don't kid yourselves, politicans have been screwing us ALL, and neither side can/may cast a guiltless stone.

Ben said:

"This is what a theft said to me when I caught him with his hand in my pocket: let's find a reasonable compromise it's not what you are thinking. "

Actually Ben, you're the thief here. I am surprised you cannot see that.
Show me some evidence which suggests that Kosovo was ever Albanian or a country. There is plenty of evidence out there which proves Kosovo is and was Serbian. Plenty of evidence of Serbian dominance and ownership of Kosovo. Where is your evidence? Yes, you existed there for centuries, but so did the Serbs. Where were you before Serbs settled and in how many numbers? You need to prove all this first and then convince us why white Americans and Australians deserve to stay where they are and not hand over rule to Indians and Aborigines when the Serbs who have been in Kosovo for a lot longer need to get out and leave it to you.

What does it cost to you then "professor"?
(miri, 7 June 2010 19:31)

About $40 a month for 15MBit. If you like me to be your professor, I am fine.

1) First lesson. Say "Kosova është Serbi".
2) Second lesson: learn how to jump!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcjCNLrW0y4

After you completed 1) + 2) = you advanced in evolution. ;-)

"Why should I discuss let alone compromise with a stranger about my house???" (ben)

-- I would agree with that question, but it seems that in the rush to lay claim to "your house", you ended up scooping up or laying claim to a lot of houses in Gracanica, Strpce, Leposavic, Zvecan, and Zubin Potok that aren't yours. Belgrade is requesting to have them back or at least have their claims to them recognized. Seems pretty fair to me.

"If PRN was a Serb in disguise him and his views sure have a lot of albanian supporters." (Mikael C)

-- I doubt it and suspect he recommends his own posts. We don't have 37 Albanians on this site. Hell, we don't even have 37 commenters in total.

ike

If PRN was a Serb in disguise him and his views sure have a lot of albanian supporters.

7 June 2010 10:47
PRN
Recommend (+37)
Poor comment (-41)
(Mikael C, 7 June 2010 21:31)

Mikael - once I wrote a series of step-by-step instructions how a SINGLE person can generate as many recommendations (or negatives) as he likes. Of course B92 did not post it - for obvious reason. That does not mean, some people do not know the same and do not use it.

It could be well PRN himself who comments on own comments. Does not need much hacking to do. In the cases if I see many ratings either way I am almost sure that or a similar trick was used.

Mike

If PRN was a Serb in disguise him and his views sure have a lot of albanian supporters.

7 June 2010 10:47
PRN
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''One thing Albanians should be aware of ( including EU's and the USA's politicans) that Belgrade won’t ever recognise Kosovo who ever runs the country, unless some compromise is reached.''

Like we [albanians] care wether beograd reckognises Pristina or not, no compromise! It is time Tirana thinks seriously about implementing league of prizren.

we never had compromis and we wont ever find it since beetween albanians and serbs is so much hate and spiled blood.

As per unification of Kosovo and Albania, I daresay that such attempt would only lead to new bloodshed.
I don’t think that even the USA and the EU are ready to let that happen.
No one wants another war, at least not for the time being.
(Biljana, 7 June 2010 23:48)

When the time is ripe, everything and anything is possible.
Remember;
south&north Yemen
east&west Germany

your grandparents do not influence you? Ok,but be sure that your children will and be sure that they will not never understand your unwilligness to unite with albania!
Don't worry,we waited centuries,we can wait your generation to pass away my lily
From Lili and united states of albania
(lili, 8 June 2010 21:30)
It is not unwillingness. My boyfriend is from Albania and I am from Kosova. It is reality. If we unite now we create a bigger problem. We both are still unstable especially Kosova as it is so small and un-organized. I believe Albania needs to look at the opportunity it has been handed, a chance in Europe.They must focus on that path not the unification of our countries. And also we have both struggled in different ways to be countries, we are different in many ways, but share the bond of language, and culture. However, you should recognize the time apart was not bonding us. Plus Kosovo is already labeled as setting a precedence, by combining countries there will be problems. The Albanians within Northern Macedonia feel they belong to Kosova (Dukagjini), as well as the ones on the South-West border. They will want to join causing problems within Macedonia. Then lets discuss the Albanians within Presevo, then the one within Mali i Zi (Crna Gora or Montenegro). Then after we cause problems for Bosnian Serbs in Srpska and Northern Kosovo who may want to join Serbia. So do you Lili want to contribute into fixing the new mess? We can live as two nations, yours Albanians and our with an Albanian majority however Kosova if people like it or not must recognize the minorities (even though I disagree with how much the EULEX is doing and what is going on as of now). So Lili, since you believe we should unite, please step up and show us all the peaceful plan you have for international relations after, I would be intrigued to hear it.

as far as I am concerned, there is no compromise, except the k-albanians let their illusion of an "independent" albanian Kosovo go.

that will never happen, despite all those comments coming from alleged ambassadors or even our dear k-albanian friends here.

the only question is: how long will it take them to finally realize that there is no way for them to reach their illegal and to some extent also quite childish or let´s say naive goal?

the sooner they get it, the better for the region, and of course also for themselves.

They Can reach an historic agreement.

serbia can admit its feeble attempted theft and acknowlege once and for all that it has no claim to kosovo. Serb democrats and liberals can admit their hypocrisy by allowing the farce and foolishness of their govt. waving around a constitution written by a dicatator and madman as a source of legitimacy over kosovo to have gone on for so long. And then Apologize to the rest of the balkans for appeasing the rampant nationalists amongst them for so long.

then we can all agree to move on.

Remember it could go the other way as well:
Serbia with Kosovo
Northern Epirus with Greece
Republika Srpska with Serbia
Srpska Krajina with Serbia
(Mikael C, 8 June 2010 10:00)

So you want Kosova, Srpska and Krajina? How can rationalize such outcome?

As for Greece they better worry about Chameria and Janina.

It never ceases to amaze me how some Serbs speak of Albanians with such utter contempt in one breath and then say things about how they'll be re-integrated into serbia in the other.

Kids..... You might want to have a look at that.

You know, in a democracy you have to treat your citizens equally and with respect, not contempt.

as a Kosovar, many of us do not want a Greater Albania, it would only cause future problems (our grandparents do not influence us in that aspect so relax)
(Lily, 8 June 2010 07:14)
your grandparents do not influence you? Ok,but be sure that your children will and be sure that they will not never understand your unwilligness to unite with albania!
Don't worry,we waited centuries,we can wait your generation to pass away my lily
From Lili and united states of albania

Don't worry,we waited centuries,we can wait your generation to pass away my lily
From Lili and united states of albania
(lili, 8 June 2010)

Lili, do not worry about Lily, Ethnic Albania will become a reality sooner rather than later. Nothing wrong with obeying the people's will.

Shqiperia e Shqiptarve.

“Serbs, Albanians could reach historic compromise”

Vuk,

I agree with you this time providing that you meant that you ought to put on the table Kragujevc, Nis, Novi Pazar and Presevo valley, then apologize for genocide and be ready to pay reparations.

Jeremic, you dont need to recognise Kosovo independence but recognise the reality that United Albania is an INEVITABILITY.

Then this would mean that finally “Serbs, Albanians could reach historic compromise” and become good neighbours towards each other.

Any other proposed solution rather than the one above will create only conflicts and troubles and and such will only find the way in the dust-bin

“The separatists have tried to forcibly change the borders of Serbia, they have not succeeded, thanks in large part to the solidarity of over three quarters of OAS countries which have not recognized Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence. In the name of the Republic of Serbia, I express my profound appreciation for their principled position, rooted in the basic precepts of international law,” Jeremić stated.

First of all Vuk, keeps calling Albanians all kinds of names and he excpects to have a constructive dialog. How can it be?

Second; The borders have not changed a bit, since these borders were defined since ww2. In old yugo, the same border existed, but since old yugo disentegrated, the border lines are clear as cristal.

Could, but I doubt it. Talks for another 20 years will not help anyone, whatever it is let's solve it right now.

The funny part: EU is probably going away, long live UK, USA and....Turkey for the Balkans. But then it might not go away so Balkans still need to go through the motions to get that $300 million a year from EU and be ready just in case.

My predictions is that Greece is thrown out of EUROzone due to debt and deficit limitations (must leave EU first) and then we all will be outsiders again.

Thank god Albania has 6 billion barrels of oil and the coast, otherwise, no hope.

"Second; The borders have not changed a bit, since these borders were defined since ww2. In old yugo, the same border existed, but since old yugo disentegrated, the border lines are clear as cristal.
(Kosova-USA, 7 June 2010 11:25)"

KOsovo was bigger till the 70's, Until the Serbs wanted more power of borders.

Jeremic, you dont need to recognise Kosovo independence but recognise the reality that United Albania is an INEVITABILITY.

(PRN, 7 June 2010 10:47

Your daily comments are so predictable.
(Leonidas, 7 June 2010 12:33)

Prediability, at least has or shows limits/constrains up-to-where you can go....and warns you DONT CROSS RED LINE.

Wehereas Serbia is so hypocritical and unpredictable, far beyond stupidity.

PRN

Nodoby is going to allow your united Albania in the international community because they have cryeated enough of a mess with Kosovo already. The only thing that is inevitable is that if Albanians push for their Greater Albania, it will result in war, only this time NATO won't back Albanians because they would have instigated the conflict.

And then do you think you would have a chance against even Macedonia, let alone Serbia or especially Greece in terms of military?

Give up the chauvinism. It will never happen.

PRN - The charge of genocide was dropped by the UN years ago. And why should Serbia trade even more territory, let alone the province of Kosovo which is still legally within its boundaries?

The idea of a Greater Albania will never come to fruition. The 'international community' is calling the shots and there is no way they would support such a thing.

Albanians cant threaten anyone with conflict with their KPS pistols, rifles & jeeps. Take a good look at how the Sri Lankan Tamils ended up. Thats your future IF you dont compromise, ie: reintegrate. Your allies are economically weak & dependent on RUS for energy, they're withdrawing from KiM and co-operating with Serbia, the Balkan's biggest weapons exporter, biggest army base a short walk from KiM and a modernized army. Wanna end up like Tamils? Then fight.

Albanians cant threaten anyone with conflict with their KPS pistols, rifles & jeeps. Take a good look at how the Sri Lankan Tamils ended up. Thats your future IF you dont compromise, ie: reintegrate. Your allies are economically weak & dependent on RUS for energy, they're withdrawing from KiM and co-operating with Serbia, the Balkan's biggest weapons exporter, biggest army base a short walk from KiM and a modernized army. Wanna end up like Tamils? Then fight.
(highduke, 7 June 2010 14:02)

you looking at the wrong place. why don't you look what happened in East Timor.

The ICJ ruling will confirm Serbias ownership of Kosovo. With power comes great responsibility. Serbs have the obligation to provide a secure and prosperous environment for our albanian guests to live in peace with the indigenous Serbian population. However, we shouldn't spoil our albanian guest workers because that would result in even more albanians crossing over from their motherland of Albania.

Look guys, don't dismiss PRN so quickly. If Albania became a province of Serbia then we could create the United Serbian Provinces of Kosovo and Albania (USPKA). Serbia would then contain everything PRN dreams of. Problem solved.

"“The separatists have tried to forcibly change the borders of Serbia, they have not succeeded, thanks in large part to the solidarity of over three quarters of OAS countries which have not recognized Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence. In the name of the Republic of Serbia, I express my profound appreciation for their principled position, rooted in the basic precepts of international law,” Jeremić stated."

LOL the Separatists in northern Kosovo are less than 2000 now ;)
The boy who cried Wolf...

And good luck with the ICJ "IF".

Jeremic declaration cannot be taken and are not taken seriously anywhere, including Serbia.Why?
He has changed his views so many time during these 2 years, he has ben humiliated by his European colleagues many times, he has sat in the same table with Kosovo foreign minister. So, he will change his view again in few months time.

Jeremic's (or whoever) usage of the word "compromise" is one of the biggest euphemistics one can imagine. What is the "compromise" in a Yes-or-No Question? What lies between independence and dependence? Even the stupidiest one must understand that there is no possible room for compromise. Kosovo is either independent or not. And we have been no through this for almost a decade. There is nothing to discuss about which has been stated now by more and more representatives from the West.

This whole farce of the Serbian political class is just an attempt of avoiding reality. It is unfortunate but there is no way to make this situation for Serbs conveniant. You lost the war which you started and for that Kosovo is independent.

Every Serbian politician who promises that Kosovo will be one time again part of Serbia either lies or hopes for a war in which the job of the 1990s can be completed.

So stop waisting time and start preparing your people for the future.

Jeremic, you dont need to recognise Kosovo independence but recognise the reality that United Albania is an INEVITABILITY.

(PRN, 7 June 2010 10:47

Your daily comments are so predictable.Full of boasting and threats like coming out of a comic book.I am sure no poster takes you seriously.

My advice to you will be to be content with Albania's existing borders.Remember that you have no friends in the balkans.

Meanwhile, there is no progress to report in the European integration process of Serbia.

"We are at mid 2010, Serbia is exactly where it has been in 2006. The creators of Serbian foreign policy are trying to transfer responsibility to the EU and so-called 'enlargement fatigue' for the stalemate in the European integration process, though they know very well that Serbia has been blocked, until now, exclusively due to the absence of the arrest of Ratko Mladic, suspected for the war crimes in Bosnia and the genocide in Srebrenica," an EU official told WAZ.EUobserver."

Rude awakening for Serbia.


"Mr Jeremic is followed on every trip abroad by a journalist and a cameraman from a private news agency, paid for by the foreign ministry, which means by Serbian tax payers. "

What pathos steaming out of Tadic's regime.

Your allies are economically weak & dependent on RUS for energy, they're withdrawing from KiM and co-operating with Serbia, the Balkan's biggest weapons exporter, biggest army base a short walk from KiM and a modernized army. Wanna end up like Tamils? Then fight.
(highduke, 7 June 2010 14:02)

We got the biggest military alliance in the planet to bomb you. Of course they sucked at it and bombed more refugee convoys than actual serb military but that was without precedent in human history. Can Sri Lanka top that.

This is what a theft said to me when I caught him with his hand in my pocket: let's find a reasonable compromise it's not what you are thinking.

Why should I discuss let alone compromise with a stranger about my house???

Serbia needs to learn one and only one lesson: mind her own business.

Here is probably the most accurate summation of the situation I have read:
http://waz.euobserver.com/887/30219
Especially the very last sentence.

Historical compromise? Does this means that a split of Kosovo is coming closer?

So we Serbs offer you historic compromise and all you Albanians know to do is be stubborn that you want endless conflict?
Oh my Albanians..... :) Believe me we work night and day not just for Serbia but also for your future! Your kids will thank us one day.
(Fruskija, 7 June 2010 14:53)

What compromise??, You are offering exactly what Kosovo had in the 80's before it was revoked.
Summation: You had it, we took it away, you revolted, we attempted annilation, NATO bombed us, UN/EU poured billions into the area to resolve the issue, we half heartedly negotiatied, you declared independence, most major international players have recognized, now our future is frozen without sometype of consensus on the issue, so we will give you what you had in the 80's and you should be greatful.
I can see everyone jumping on that bandwagon!

What does it cost to you then "professor"?
(miri, 7 June 2010 19:31)

About $40 a month for 15MBit. If you like me to be your professor, I am fine.

1) First lesson. Say "Kosova është Serbi".
2) Second lesson: learn how to jump!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcjCNLrW0y4

After you completed 1) + 2) = you advanced in evolution. ;-)

So we Serbs offer you historic compromise and all you Albanians know to do is be stubborn that you want endless conflict?
Oh my Albanians..... :) Believe me we work night and day not just for Serbia but also for your future! Your kids will thank us one day.

Possible historic compromise the article's title reads,

That can only mean partrition it is the only possible compromise between Albanians and Serbs.


PRN, the claims for novi pazar, Nis, etc.. are unrealistic, they are populated by serb majority we wouldnt want them they woundnt want us.

The only compromise is northern municipalities for presheva and bujanoci and maybe a small part of medvegja.

I have a gut feeling that when the ICJ ruling will be in kosova's favor serbia might ask for a partrition so we can end this dispute once and for all so the Serbs and Albanians can work towards building better neighbour friendly relationship.

"Why you [PRN] bother writing such posts is beyond me... They don't help anybody, are highly unrealistic and even many Kosovo Albanians do not support them." (bganon)

-- I'm really beginning to think PRN isn't Albanian. Aside from the fact s/he calls it "Kosovo" and uses Serbian names for cities s/he wants to breed into, I've got to think this is someone deliberately trying to pose as just a big dumb Albanian nationalist to rouse emotions around here. I really cannot think any Albanian could be this ridiculously clueless, and the whole Nis – Kragujevac thing blew this person’s cover. I said at one point that PRN might be one of B92’s shock jocks, because no one could be this crazy. Notice how s/he never responds to direct questions or provides support for his/her statements. Just ridiculous post day in and day out. It's got to be for comedic value and nothing more. Think Borat but slightly more Dardanian.

PRN won't probably set his feet in Albania or Serbia anyway. He is a gastarbajter who forgot himself in the for-time-being-richer part of the world forever. Crying out "Albania from Paris to Sydney" is cheap, costs only few bytes of traffic.
(Ataman, 7 June 2010 17:36)

What does it cost to you then "professor"?

Look guys, don't dismiss PRN so quickly. If Albania became a province of Serbia then we could create the United Serbian Provinces of Kosovo and Albania (USPKA). Serbia would then contain everything PRN dreams of. Problem solved.
(Zoran, 7 June 2010 16:14)

PRN won't probably set his feet in Albania or Serbia anyway. He is a gastarbajter who forgot himself in the for-time-being-richer part of the world forever. Crying out "Albania from Paris to Sydney" is cheap, costs only few bytes of traffic.

“My country is ready to engage in a good-faith dialog that produces a solution to the Kosovo problem acceptable to all parties. Serbia will be constructive in the talks to come, for a solution needs to be found, requiring flexibility on all sides.”

He is not doing bad in fooling some countries whom don't have a clue about the history of Kosovo/a. He is trying to create the impression that "everything is going to be fine" "after the ICJ opionion" which according to Jeremic will state "Kosovo/a is Serbia")) Well at least that he want his audience to believe. The modern world like to hear the words "compromise", "being flexible", "everyone happy" etc etc nosense like that but TO PROVE MY POINT

"... Jeremić underlined that Serbia “will never accept an imposed outcome that aims to unilaterally terminate our sovereign rights in Kosovo”, adding that “this is neither just nor legitimate, or sustainable”.

Jeremić underscored that

“The separatists have tried to forcibly change the borders of Serbia, they have not succeeded, thanks in large part to the solidarity of over three quarters of OAS countries which have not recognized Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence."

So "all the talking" from Jeremic is keeping Kosovo/a under Serbia's sovereignity. Now where is the so-called Serbian "compromise" and "flexibility". I don't know whether Jeremic told to his interlocutors about the war in Kosovo/a and what was the Serbian "compromise" spirit in the war? Jeremic talk as nothing has happened in former Yugoslavia.

Here is probably the most accurate summation of the situation I have read:
[link]
Especially the very last sentence.
(pss, 7 June 2010 11:34)

Interesting article and quite a possibility, PSS.
The problem with it is that Zeljko Pantelic regards the "most important EU countries and (of) the US" like a live organisms - which they are clearly not.

The deep EU crisis and the new level of economy-hysteria to which Lajos Kósa did "contribute" on Friday was not taken into account. Further - the entire Kosovo problem is maybe important to you (if you are American Albanian, not sure it is the case), but totally of secondary importance for the rest, large percentage of Serbia's population excluded of course. The entire Kosovo topic is bent by every single "EU official" the way they like and the way their personal stance is. Realistically, USA has no saying about EU policies and I think the entire situation is very much volatile.

The "Kosovo Project" (you know, what I mean) is already practically dead. I do not want to predict the outcome of ICJ, but if it is positive for Serbia - than there will be a broad scandal.

-----

Regarding Zeljko Pantelic himself. Very interesting name - hope you can read his story:

http://tinyurl.com/29ja8um

I recall, Albanians and some Americans (was it Joe or David Wright?) calling the NATO attack on RTB "justified". I guess, it was not, wasn't it? Zeljko Pantelic was there and escaped by luck only. So what is the opinion: should be it OK if he is an other "collateral damage" or not?

Hey guys. Look where he is addressing the OAS meeting. He is in Lima. Lima is capital Peru and Peru has already recognized Kosovo. Since Peru is relatively small country why he did not ask for its ambassador to leave back then, just like he did with ambassadors of Macedonia and Montenegro.
Very childish diplomacy

"It is very encouraging to see Serbia's commitment to democracy and democratic institutions, to improving the protection of human rights, promoting development, strengthening security and prosperity for all citizens" Jeremic obviously failed to mention Presevo, Medvegje or Bujanovc.

PRN yes of course, thats a deal! Perhaps we could throw in Belgrade and Novi Sad as well.
And if you promise to support us in Bosnia we can hand you Banja Luka too!

Why you bother writing such posts is beyond me... They don't help anybody, are highly unrealistic and even many Kosovo Albanians do not support them.

Jeremic continues to impress me and I think for such a young man, he's got a promising future ahead of him. Many had thought - nay expected - Belgrade to roll over and accept Kosovo-UNMIK's UDI but Jeremic has shown the best of 21st century Serbian inat – much to the chagrin of powers that allegedly have far more clout on the international stage.

I particularly like the language used by him. While Belgrade appears to be the side championing compromise and negotiated solutions within international legal parameters, it's the West, particularly Washington and London that are sounding more extreme and uncompromising in their views with "Kosovo is a done deal" and "no new negotiations". That they keep having to dig their heels in deeper means they can only entrench themselves further in this diplomatic screwup. Belgrade may not be able to directly push back the weight of Washington, London, or Berlin, but it can significantly make policies of unilateralism look unsustainable and undemocratic. Even if a negotiated solution over Kosovo means accepting the status quo as is now – Albanian and Serb partition with non-interference from one over the other, Belgrade will have achieved a considerable diplomatic victory. This should certainly fly in the face of all those who continue to think Serbia is only isolating itself.

Look guys, don't dismiss PRN so quickly. If Albania became a province of Serbia then we could create the United Serbian Provinces of Kosovo and Albania (USPKA). Serbia would then contain everything PRN dreams of. Problem solved.
(Zoran, 7 June 2010 16:14)

Zoran,
why bother posting your appetite for land at the expense of Albanians?

poor comment, didnt expect that from you.

"Serbs, Albanians could reach historic compromise"

Or the Albanians could wake up to themselves.

Your kids will thank us one day.
(Fruskija, 7 June 2010)

I like the sound of that. Wiht the way you are working our kids will be sipping their Kafe Turka and Raki in Belgrade in no time. Keep it up please.

Serbia, OAS in MuO ???

MoU is correct.
Just trying to help b92 editor.

As per unification of Kosovo and Albania, I daresay that such attempt would only lead to new bloodshed.
I don’t think that even the USA and the EU are ready to let that happen.
No one wants another war, at least not for the time being.
(Biljana, 7 June 2010 23:48)

When the time is ripe, everything and anything is possible.
Remember;
south&north Yemen
east&west Germany

Key word: COULD.

Does not mean WILL. With so much amibiguity and gray area, this is highly unlikely and dubious at best.

Kosovo is a mess and both Serbs and albanians have done everything in their power to screw the pooch. In the end, it's the average Joe Q. public that bears the brunt of political manipulation and physical retribution. Don't kid yourselves, politicans have been screwing us ALL, and neither side can/may cast a guiltless stone.

Mike

If PRN was a Serb in disguise him and his views sure have a lot of albanian supporters.

7 June 2010 10:47
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Mike

Sorry but you are wrong. Most albanians behave and think like PRN.

''One thing Albanians should be aware of ( including EU's and the USA's politicans) that Belgrade won’t ever recognise Kosovo who ever runs the country, unless some compromise is reached.''

Like we [albanians] care wether beograd reckognises Pristina or not, no compromise! It is time Tirana thinks seriously about implementing league of prizren.

Ben said:

"This is what a theft said to me when I caught him with his hand in my pocket: let's find a reasonable compromise it's not what you are thinking. "

Actually Ben, you're the thief here. I am surprised you cannot see that.
Show me some evidence which suggests that Kosovo was ever Albanian or a country. There is plenty of evidence out there which proves Kosovo is and was Serbian. Plenty of evidence of Serbian dominance and ownership of Kosovo. Where is your evidence? Yes, you existed there for centuries, but so did the Serbs. Where were you before Serbs settled and in how many numbers? You need to prove all this first and then convince us why white Americans and Australians deserve to stay where they are and not hand over rule to Indians and Aborigines when the Serbs who have been in Kosovo for a lot longer need to get out and leave it to you.

I It seems that Mr Jeremic knows how to hit the nerves of some
Albanians.

I just don’t get it why such negative reactions coming from the Albanians.
Mr Jeremic said nothing wrong,. He is entitled to make an opinion on the matter and he certainly knows much more than we all do here.

One thing Albanians should be aware of ( including EU's and the USA's politicans) that Belgrade won’t ever recognise Kosovo who ever runs the country, unless some compromise is reached.

I am not trying to say that there are no politicians in Serbia who would like to trade Kosovo for the sake of speedy entrance into EU, but the thing is that they are not ready for such move and have no guts to do that.

I am surprised that British ambassador in Belgrade, while making such ridiculous statements few days ago, does not know how the things function in Balkan, particularly in Serbia.

They should all know that not a one Serbian politician will ever sign Kosovo off because not one of them want to end up in history books branded as a traitor by signing off a cradle of our identity . Another reason is fear for own life.
If nothing else, Serbian history teaches us that many of those who were directly involved in the faith of the country and who were suspected as “traitors” were assassinated.
Those bizarre moments in our history may even “serve as a purpose” nowadays.

Therefore, what ever the ICJ’s final decision may be, negotiations must take place again and again until some acceptable compromise is reached for both sides.

Well, when we all know this for fact, is there any other solution than to reach some compromise?
Compromise, what ever is, is always better than one day of war.
And that compromise should not be reached just for the sake of EU ambitions, but for the sake of all of us.

Status quo is unsustainable and hurts only Albanians. I think it would be in their best interest not to ignore what Belgrade has to say and offer. In the end, Belgrade can wait for century if needed since there is clear stance that there is no trade of Kosovo for the EU.

As per unification of Kosovo and Albania, I daresay that such attempt would only lead to new bloodshed.
I don’t think that even the USA and the EU are ready to let that happen.
No one wants another war, at least not for the time being.

we never had compromis and we wont ever find it since beetween albanians and serbs is so much hate and spiled blood.

Remember it could go the other way as well:
Serbia with Kosovo
Northern Epirus with Greece
Republika Srpska with Serbia
Srpska Krajina with Serbia
(Mikael C, 8 June 2010 10:00)

So you want Kosova, Srpska and Krajina? How can rationalize such outcome?

As for Greece they better worry about Chameria and Janina.

as a Kosovar, many of us do not want a Greater Albania, it would only cause future problems (our grandparents do not influence us in that aspect so relax)
(Lily, 8 June 2010 07:14)
your grandparents do not influence you? Ok,but be sure that your children will and be sure that they will not never understand your unwilligness to unite with albania!
Don't worry,we waited centuries,we can wait your generation to pass away my lily
From Lili and united states of albania

Ok, what Jeremic is saying has some value to it. I am myself a Kosovar, and do not think Jeremic has no rights to an opinion. One thing that everyone should accept is those who believe Kosovo is its own country have the right to do so, and those who do not have the right to do so. It is an opinion. However, no matter what is ruled, the reality is Kosovo will most likely never go back to Serbia. It would have been a waste of the last ten years if we just reversed the whole thing. In my opinion after the ruling, all the countries within the Balkans need to stop worrying about each other. Kosovo needs to focus, on pushing out the politicians within the government now because they do not support what this country should be supporting. And yes the wounds from the war are obviously still fresh, 100,000 Kosovars of Serbian decent were displaced and so were 700,000 Kosovars of Albanian decent. Kosovo needs to work on taking a different approach, by educating the people one important things: a history which isn't propaganda fueled on either side, mathematics & science (lack of it within the country, i.e. explains why Serbia is more modern because Serbs were educated in many areas Albanians lacked). Kosovar Albanians can not blame Serbians for any problems today because the new generation is opening their eyes, they see that the focus isn't on hating their neighbors, its growing up and letting go of their grandfather's traditions. So Kosovo will need to learn to better integrate and people must start to accept Kosovar as their identity for a future. Lets be real, the Balkans is in the middle of the East and West, it means if you guys focus on letting go of corruption, and standing up, stop focusing on history that causes problems (respect your history, but don't use it as a tool), learn from our mistakes, we can be the power of Europe. The Balkans is culturally rich, its time for politics to push out the old, the youth is realizing its time to move forward, and have a greater future.

P.S. as a Kosovar, many of us do not want a Greater Albania, it would only cause future problems (our grandparents do not influence us in that aspect so relax)

Remember;
south&north Yemen
east&west Germany
Kosovo-USA

Remember it could go the other way as well:
Serbia with Kosovo
Northern Epirus with Greece
Republika Srpska with Serbia
Srpska Krajina with Serbia

They Can reach an historic agreement.

serbia can admit its feeble attempted theft and acknowlege once and for all that it has no claim to kosovo. Serb democrats and liberals can admit their hypocrisy by allowing the farce and foolishness of their govt. waving around a constitution written by a dicatator and madman as a source of legitimacy over kosovo to have gone on for so long. And then Apologize to the rest of the balkans for appeasing the rampant nationalists amongst them for so long.

then we can all agree to move on.

as far as I am concerned, there is no compromise, except the k-albanians let their illusion of an "independent" albanian Kosovo go.

that will never happen, despite all those comments coming from alleged ambassadors or even our dear k-albanian friends here.

the only question is: how long will it take them to finally realize that there is no way for them to reach their illegal and to some extent also quite childish or let´s say naive goal?

the sooner they get it, the better for the region, and of course also for themselves.

"Why should I discuss let alone compromise with a stranger about my house???" (ben)

-- I would agree with that question, but it seems that in the rush to lay claim to "your house", you ended up scooping up or laying claim to a lot of houses in Gracanica, Strpce, Leposavic, Zvecan, and Zubin Potok that aren't yours. Belgrade is requesting to have them back or at least have their claims to them recognized. Seems pretty fair to me.

"If PRN was a Serb in disguise him and his views sure have a lot of albanian supporters." (Mikael C)

-- I doubt it and suspect he recommends his own posts. We don't have 37 Albanians on this site. Hell, we don't even have 37 commenters in total.

your grandparents do not influence you? Ok,but be sure that your children will and be sure that they will not never understand your unwilligness to unite with albania!
Don't worry,we waited centuries,we can wait your generation to pass away my lily
From Lili and united states of albania
(lili, 8 June 2010 21:30)
It is not unwillingness. My boyfriend is from Albania and I am from Kosova. It is reality. If we unite now we create a bigger problem. We both are still unstable especially Kosova as it is so small and un-organized. I believe Albania needs to look at the opportunity it has been handed, a chance in Europe.They must focus on that path not the unification of our countries. And also we have both struggled in different ways to be countries, we are different in many ways, but share the bond of language, and culture. However, you should recognize the time apart was not bonding us. Plus Kosovo is already labeled as setting a precedence, by combining countries there will be problems. The Albanians within Northern Macedonia feel they belong to Kosova (Dukagjini), as well as the ones on the South-West border. They will want to join causing problems within Macedonia. Then lets discuss the Albanians within Presevo, then the one within Mali i Zi (Crna Gora or Montenegro). Then after we cause problems for Bosnian Serbs in Srpska and Northern Kosovo who may want to join Serbia. So do you Lili want to contribute into fixing the new mess? We can live as two nations, yours Albanians and our with an Albanian majority however Kosova if people like it or not must recognize the minorities (even though I disagree with how much the EULEX is doing and what is going on as of now). So Lili, since you believe we should unite, please step up and show us all the peaceful plan you have for international relations after, I would be intrigued to hear it.

ike

If PRN was a Serb in disguise him and his views sure have a lot of albanian supporters.

7 June 2010 10:47
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(Mikael C, 7 June 2010 21:31)

Mikael - once I wrote a series of step-by-step instructions how a SINGLE person can generate as many recommendations (or negatives) as he likes. Of course B92 did not post it - for obvious reason. That does not mean, some people do not know the same and do not use it.

It could be well PRN himself who comments on own comments. Does not need much hacking to do. In the cases if I see many ratings either way I am almost sure that or a similar trick was used.

Don't worry,we waited centuries,we can wait your generation to pass away my lily
From Lili and united states of albania
(lili, 8 June 2010)

Lili, do not worry about Lily, Ethnic Albania will become a reality sooner rather than later. Nothing wrong with obeying the people's will.

Shqiperia e Shqiptarve.

It never ceases to amaze me how some Serbs speak of Albanians with such utter contempt in one breath and then say things about how they'll be re-integrated into serbia in the other.

Kids..... You might want to have a look at that.

You know, in a democracy you have to treat your citizens equally and with respect, not contempt.