I doubt Turkey will dissolve any time soon, if ever. Erdogan though, needs a kick in the a-- ... electorally speaking.
(Ment, 3 June 2010 19:11)
I know, it's a wishful thinking only - but what can I say about a country which brought so much tragedy?
Weren't Turkey, no Kosovo problem would exist to begin with.
And as for Chief Mullah Erdogan being kicked under his tunica - that would probably mean (as usual) an other military junta. In recent history Turkey was ruled by either some mullah-style guy or by a fascist, but secular junta.
Their people deserve really somewhat better.
(Ataman, 4 June 2010 11:20)
Now that i think of it, if it werent for turkey maybe all of Albanians would have been absorbed by the south slavs and greeks just like most of Illyrians were assimilated.
I have no problems with greece, dont put words in others mouth. But croats are catholics, is Vatican theirs? Same as serbs are orthodox, Constantinople must be Serbia as well than? Right?All I said was that Constantine was an Illyrian från Nnis, how u can make him to a greek and Constantinoplel to Greece that amazes me.
I doubt Turkey will dissolve any time soon, if ever. Erdogan though, needs a kick in the a-- ... electorally speaking.
(Ment, 3 June 2010 19:11)
I know, it's a wishful thinking only - but what can I say about a country which brought so much tragedy?
Weren't Turkey, no Kosovo problem would exist to begin with.
And as for Chief Mullah Erdogan being kicked under his tunica - that would probably mean (as usual) an other military junta. In recent history Turkey was ruled by either some mullah-style guy or by a fascist, but secular junta.
ummm if you read academic history books Constantine I was Greek especially since his mother was Greek too! Making up history isnt very original, it's been countless of times so don't quit your day job.
I'm' absolutely sure that Constantinople was the epicenter of Christianity...FEZ.
Well then, if you have a problem with Greece, then Russia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Romania, Georgia, Armanian, will relieve you of this Orthodox jewel you stole.
Continued Example of Ottoman Theft: Hagia Sophia (from the Greek: Ἁγία Σοφία, "Holy Wisdom"; Latin: Sancta Sophia or Sancta Sapientia) is a former Orthodox patriarchal basilica. Sorry,it's not a mosque..it's an ORHTHODOX Church and Ottoman Turks didn't build it, nor can they take the credit for Constantinople.
In 2007 the US businessman and politician Chris Spirou started the movement "Free Hagia Sophia Council" championing the cause of restoring the building to its original function.[20] On 20 June 2007 Spirou testified before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus of the United States Congress; at the end of the Public Hearing, Chairman Tom Lantos, (D-CA), Chairman of the Congressional Human Rights Caucus and Chairman of the green Committee on Foreign Affairs of the United States Congress, stated among other things: "Of all the Human Rights violations around the world that the Congressional Human Rights Caucus has examined in the 25 years of its existence, the most important have been violations relating to Religious Freedom. The Caucus has paid particular attention and concern to human rights violations which deal with forced conversions of Holy Places and Holy Sites. The situation with Agia Sophia ranks amongst the most important issues to have come before our Caucus."
u sure about that?
Constantinople was founded by the Roman emperor Constantine I. Constantine was från Naissus (modern Nis) an Illyrian. How can it be GREECE?
Greece claims that the name Macedonia refers to the ancient northern Greek province.
So what?Slavo Macedonians and Serbs are both invaders in the balkans.Since the Greeks agree that the Serbs are right to claim land that was never theirs why can't slavo-macedonians claim a name?
If FYROM has supporters like Turkey who needs enemies then... only this "support" can prove how "rightful" FYROM is, to claim a name, a culture, a history and a legacy it has absolutely nothing to do with....
Macedonia is one and is Greek. FYROM is still one, but it has absolutely nothing to do with macedonia....
That's the dark meat of the bird that needs to be returned by the Ottoman Invaders!
(michael, 3 June 2010 18:27)
Fully agree.This is a matter of shorter time than anyone would expect.I have no doubt than very soon I with my friends will watch Greek super League match in Constantinapole.How nice it will be to support Olympiakos when they play Constantinapole Lions in currently built Galataseray stadium.(since turks inherited Hagia Sophia it is not a sin to inherit some of their newly built stadiums.)Anyway the current row beetwen turks of jewish and of muslim religion can accalarate this process.LOng live the great people of Hellas.
It seems Turkey, under Erdogan, is starting to look more like Russia in its relations with the neighbors.
(Ment, 3 June 2010 17:02)
Wishfull thinking.The truth is that Russia as a member of the Security council,a nuclear power and an energy hub commands the respect of the rest of the world.Turkey doesn't.
What Turkey has achieved under Erdogan is to increase its islamisation process which is evident in every aspect of public life.
Ahmed Davutoglu-turkey's foreign minister-has always pursued a policy of Ottomanisation.That is trying to ressurect Turkey's influence in the immediate area and the Balkans in particular.Will such policy succeed?.Well Davutoglou is daydreaming.
It seems Turkey, under Erdogan, is starting to look more like Russia in its relations with the neighbors.
(Ment, 3 June 2010, 17:02)
Turkey is an unfinished business. It will be finished when only a tiny Ankara Pashalik remains from it. Kurds, Armenians, Greeks, Syrians, Bulgarians, Georgians have to get the slices of that bird.
It seems Turkey, under Erdogan, is starting to look more like Russia in its relations with the neighbors.
(Ment, 3 June 2010, 17:02)
Turkey is an unfinished business. It will be finished when only a tiny Ankara Pashalik remains from it. Kurds, Armenians, Greeks, Syrians, Bulgarians, Georgians have to get the slices of that bird.
It seems Turkey, under Erdogan, is starting to look more like Russia in its relations with the neighbors.
(Ment, 3 June 2010 17:02)
Wishfull thinking.The truth is that Russia as a member of the Security council,a nuclear power and an energy hub commands the respect of the rest of the world.Turkey doesn't.
What Turkey has achieved under Erdogan is to increase its islamisation process which is evident in every aspect of public life.
Ahmed Davutoglu-turkey's foreign minister-has always pursued a policy of Ottomanisation.That is trying to ressurect Turkey's influence in the immediate area and the Balkans in particular.Will such policy succeed?.Well Davutoglou is daydreaming.
If FYROM has supporters like Turkey who needs enemies then... only this "support" can prove how "rightful" FYROM is, to claim a name, a culture, a history and a legacy it has absolutely nothing to do with....
Macedonia is one and is Greek. FYROM is still one, but it has absolutely nothing to do with macedonia....
That's the dark meat of the bird that needs to be returned by the Ottoman Invaders!
(michael, 3 June 2010 18:27)
Fully agree.This is a matter of shorter time than anyone would expect.I have no doubt than very soon I with my friends will watch Greek super League match in Constantinapole.How nice it will be to support Olympiakos when they play Constantinapole Lions in currently built Galataseray stadium.(since turks inherited Hagia Sophia it is not a sin to inherit some of their newly built stadiums.)Anyway the current row beetwen turks of jewish and of muslim religion can accalarate this process.LOng live the great people of Hellas.
u sure about that?
Constantinople was founded by the Roman emperor Constantine I. Constantine was från Naissus (modern Nis) an Illyrian. How can it be GREECE?
Greece claims that the name Macedonia refers to the ancient northern Greek province.
So what?Slavo Macedonians and Serbs are both invaders in the balkans.Since the Greeks agree that the Serbs are right to claim land that was never theirs why can't slavo-macedonians claim a name?
I doubt Turkey will dissolve any time soon, if ever. Erdogan though, needs a kick in the a-- ... electorally speaking.
(Ment, 3 June 2010 19:11)
I know, it's a wishful thinking only - but what can I say about a country which brought so much tragedy?
Weren't Turkey, no Kosovo problem would exist to begin with.
And as for Chief Mullah Erdogan being kicked under his tunica - that would probably mean (as usual) an other military junta. In recent history Turkey was ruled by either some mullah-style guy or by a fascist, but secular junta.
I'm' absolutely sure that Constantinople was the epicenter of Christianity...FEZ.
Well then, if you have a problem with Greece, then Russia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Romania, Georgia, Armanian, will relieve you of this Orthodox jewel you stole.
Continued Example of Ottoman Theft: Hagia Sophia (from the Greek: Ἁγία Σοφία, "Holy Wisdom"; Latin: Sancta Sophia or Sancta Sapientia) is a former Orthodox patriarchal basilica. Sorry,it's not a mosque..it's an ORHTHODOX Church and Ottoman Turks didn't build it, nor can they take the credit for Constantinople.
In 2007 the US businessman and politician Chris Spirou started the movement "Free Hagia Sophia Council" championing the cause of restoring the building to its original function.[20] On 20 June 2007 Spirou testified before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus of the United States Congress; at the end of the Public Hearing, Chairman Tom Lantos, (D-CA), Chairman of the Congressional Human Rights Caucus and Chairman of the green Committee on Foreign Affairs of the United States Congress, stated among other things: "Of all the Human Rights violations around the world that the Congressional Human Rights Caucus has examined in the 25 years of its existence, the most important have been violations relating to Religious Freedom. The Caucus has paid particular attention and concern to human rights violations which deal with forced conversions of Holy Places and Holy Sites. The situation with Agia Sophia ranks amongst the most important issues to have come before our Caucus."
ummm if you read academic history books Constantine I was Greek especially since his mother was Greek too! Making up history isnt very original, it's been countless of times so don't quit your day job.
I have no problems with greece, dont put words in others mouth. But croats are catholics, is Vatican theirs? Same as serbs are orthodox, Constantinople must be Serbia as well than? Right?All I said was that Constantine was an Illyrian från Nnis, how u can make him to a greek and Constantinoplel to Greece that amazes me.
I doubt Turkey will dissolve any time soon, if ever. Erdogan though, needs a kick in the a-- ... electorally speaking.
(Ment, 3 June 2010 19:11)
I know, it's a wishful thinking only - but what can I say about a country which brought so much tragedy?
Weren't Turkey, no Kosovo problem would exist to begin with.
And as for Chief Mullah Erdogan being kicked under his tunica - that would probably mean (as usual) an other military junta. In recent history Turkey was ruled by either some mullah-style guy or by a fascist, but secular junta.
Their people deserve really somewhat better.
(Ataman, 4 June 2010 11:20)
Now that i think of it, if it werent for turkey maybe all of Albanians would have been absorbed by the south slavs and greeks just like most of Illyrians were assimilated.
If FYROM has supporters like Turkey who needs enemies then... only this "support" can prove how "rightful" FYROM is, to claim a name, a culture, a history and a legacy it has absolutely nothing to do with....
Macedonia is one and is Greek. FYROM is still one, but it has absolutely nothing to do with macedonia....
That's the dark meat of the bird that needs to be returned by the Ottoman Invaders!
(michael, 3 June 2010 18:27)
Fully agree.This is a matter of shorter time than anyone would expect.I have no doubt than very soon I with my friends will watch Greek super League match in Constantinapole.How nice it will be to support Olympiakos when they play Constantinapole Lions in currently built Galataseray stadium.(since turks inherited Hagia Sophia it is not a sin to inherit some of their newly built stadiums.)Anyway the current row beetwen turks of jewish and of muslim religion can accalarate this process.LOng live the great people of Hellas.
It seems Turkey, under Erdogan, is starting to look more like Russia in its relations with the neighbors.
(Ment, 3 June 2010, 17:02)
Turkey is an unfinished business. It will be finished when only a tiny Ankara Pashalik remains from it. Kurds, Armenians, Greeks, Syrians, Bulgarians, Georgians have to get the slices of that bird.
Greece claims that the name Macedonia refers to the ancient northern Greek province.
So what?Slavo Macedonians and Serbs are both invaders in the balkans.Since the Greeks agree that the Serbs are right to claim land that was never theirs why can't slavo-macedonians claim a name?
It seems Turkey, under Erdogan, is starting to look more like Russia in its relations with the neighbors.
(Ment, 3 June 2010 17:02)
Wishfull thinking.The truth is that Russia as a member of the Security council,a nuclear power and an energy hub commands the respect of the rest of the world.Turkey doesn't.
What Turkey has achieved under Erdogan is to increase its islamisation process which is evident in every aspect of public life.
Ahmed Davutoglu-turkey's foreign minister-has always pursued a policy of Ottomanisation.That is trying to ressurect Turkey's influence in the immediate area and the Balkans in particular.Will such policy succeed?.Well Davutoglou is daydreaming.
u sure about that?
Constantinople was founded by the Roman emperor Constantine I. Constantine was från Naissus (modern Nis) an Illyrian. How can it be GREECE?
I have no problems with greece, dont put words in others mouth. But croats are catholics, is Vatican theirs? Same as serbs are orthodox, Constantinople must be Serbia as well than? Right?All I said was that Constantine was an Illyrian från Nnis, how u can make him to a greek and Constantinoplel to Greece that amazes me.
ummm if you read academic history books Constantine I was Greek especially since his mother was Greek too! Making up history isnt very original, it's been countless of times so don't quit your day job.
I'm' absolutely sure that Constantinople was the epicenter of Christianity...FEZ.
Well then, if you have a problem with Greece, then Russia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Romania, Georgia, Armanian, will relieve you of this Orthodox jewel you stole.
Continued Example of Ottoman Theft: Hagia Sophia (from the Greek: Ἁγία Σοφία, "Holy Wisdom"; Latin: Sancta Sophia or Sancta Sapientia) is a former Orthodox patriarchal basilica. Sorry,it's not a mosque..it's an ORHTHODOX Church and Ottoman Turks didn't build it, nor can they take the credit for Constantinople.
In 2007 the US businessman and politician Chris Spirou started the movement "Free Hagia Sophia Council" championing the cause of restoring the building to its original function.[20] On 20 June 2007 Spirou testified before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus of the United States Congress; at the end of the Public Hearing, Chairman Tom Lantos, (D-CA), Chairman of the Congressional Human Rights Caucus and Chairman of the green Committee on Foreign Affairs of the United States Congress, stated among other things: "Of all the Human Rights violations around the world that the Congressional Human Rights Caucus has examined in the 25 years of its existence, the most important have been violations relating to Religious Freedom. The Caucus has paid particular attention and concern to human rights violations which deal with forced conversions of Holy Places and Holy Sites. The situation with Agia Sophia ranks amongst the most important issues to have come before our Caucus."
I doubt Turkey will dissolve any time soon, if ever. Erdogan though, needs a kick in the a-- ... electorally speaking.
(Ment, 3 June 2010 19:11)
I know, it's a wishful thinking only - but what can I say about a country which brought so much tragedy?
Weren't Turkey, no Kosovo problem would exist to begin with.
And as for Chief Mullah Erdogan being kicked under his tunica - that would probably mean (as usual) an other military junta. In recent history Turkey was ruled by either some mullah-style guy or by a fascist, but secular junta.
I doubt Turkey will dissolve any time soon, if ever. Erdogan though, needs a kick in the a-- ... electorally speaking.
(Ment, 3 June 2010 19:11)
I know, it's a wishful thinking only - but what can I say about a country which brought so much tragedy?
Weren't Turkey, no Kosovo problem would exist to begin with.
And as for Chief Mullah Erdogan being kicked under his tunica - that would probably mean (as usual) an other military junta. In recent history Turkey was ruled by either some mullah-style guy or by a fascist, but secular junta.
Their people deserve really somewhat better.
(Ataman, 4 June 2010 11:20)
Now that i think of it, if it werent for turkey maybe all of Albanians would have been absorbed by the south slavs and greeks just like most of Illyrians were assimilated.
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