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Sunday, 30.05.2010.

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FM: Kosovo is Serbia’s Jerusalem

Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić said that Serbia should not be forced to choose between EU membership and Kosovo.

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Milan

pre 13 godina

That is an insult to Israel and its people. Jerusalem is under Israel's control, Kosovo is lost to Serbia forever.
(Mirub Jager, 31 May 2010 17:45)

Come to North Mitrovica and say here, that Kosovo is lost for Serbia ;)

marko

pre 13 godina

last time i checked kosovo is a region and jerusalem is a city - i would expect this guy to know his geography especially since he is always all over the world.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

Mr. Jeremic,

That is an insult to Israel and its people. Jerusalem is under Israel's control, Kosovo is lost to Serbia forever.
(Mirub Jager, 31 May 2010 17:45)

You have NOTHING to say about this, Jerusalem is not YOUR business.
And as far as insulting Israel and it's people - IMO here Roberto does excel on the regular basis - as far as I am concerned. That's happen to be my business more-less (rather more), too.

Good day.

bishop

pre 13 godina

@lance
you said "the slavs started to come to balkans only in the 7th cent. and that albanians lived all over serbia before that"

this is simply a lie. do some more reading and you can see that the only "slavs" that came to the region then were warriors who assimilated the people who they found living there. all balkan people are a big mix of thracians, illyrians, dacians, triballians, greeks etc. "albanians" did not live there in the time you mentioned because they did not EXIST at the time. the first time the word ALBANIAN was used in the balkans was in the 12th century.

Mirub Jager

pre 13 godina

Mr. Jeremic,

That is an insult to Israel and its people. Jerusalem is under Israel's control, Kosovo is lost to Serbia forever.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

and some folks really admire such people as jeremic? how frightening and troubling.

thank you.

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 30 May 2010 20:30)

Yes, now you can say:
Who let Jeremic out? Woof, woof!

How scary.

Be aware, every time you are with Serbs or Russians - your life is in danger. You could become either Muckalica or Beef Stroganoff in nanoseconds.

And one day some careless foreign "advisors" can become Khinkali

http://tinyurl.com/388jedn
http://tinyurl.com/34ywpxn

in Georgia and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Kiev

in Ukraine.

delon

pre 13 godina

Janez-Beograd!
Albanians are big factor in Ballkans,you like it or not.
Serbia is not Yugosllavia,if you think about it ,it is only 1/6 of it.We know what Yugosllavia was,and what Serbia is today,with some 200 rusted tanks,and some 30 outdated planes.
20years from now ,Albanians will be all together in one confederate state,in much better position that landloocked Serbia!

Jovan

pre 13 godina

I´d be happy if Serbia prevented joining to this supra-national jail.

Serbs are not Albanians, we do not accept foreign rule.

while the Ottomans were occupying us we refused to convert or even accept them.

why should we accept to be servants of the economically stronger EU-countries like Germany, France etc. ?

but, I am afraid, most Serbs are blindfoldedly going to vote for the EU...

poverty makes tham blind.

Janez-Beograd

pre 13 godina

You already have. This is your camp as of now: Russia,China,Iran,Venezuela,Cuba,Congo and the likes of them.
(Mark, 30 May 2010 17:41)

Give me Cuba and Venezuela over Saudi Arabia, Mauritania and Somalia any day.

Janez-Beograd

pre 13 godina

Presevo Bujanovac Medvexha
DEAL OR NO DEAL
(Rocky, 31 May 2010 04:07)

K-Albanians are not in any position to make extra-territorial demands to Serbia. Whatever deal the West and Serbia comes up with, you lot will have to suck it up. By demanding Presevo & rest of Albanian municipalities in S. Serbia just highlights your fascist mentality of not allowing any Albanians to live in Serbia.

Lance

pre 13 godina

KiM was populated by Serbs before the Ottoman Era. 90% of the toponyms are Slavic. Albanians cleansed & assimilated Serbs up to Nis when they were serving the Turks and latest genetic research even shows that our pre-Serb ancestors living in Balkans since Mesolithic times. Albanians are ungreatful to us Serbs. They attacked us first every time.
(highduke, 30 May 2010 15:48)

hi duke,

I don't know where to begin! Are you saying your pre-Serb
ancestors were in the Balkans before the Slavs started arriving in the Balkans from the Urals about the 7th century?

btw, The Albanians lived as far north as Nis before the Serbs started arriving to the Balkans. However, please tell us how the "latest" genetic research explain your claim that the Serbs' ancestors were in the Balkans before the Serbs even arrived in the Balkans.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

and some folks really admire such people as jeremic? how frightening and troubling.

thank you.

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 30 May 2010 20:30)
===================
So, what do you think of Izetbegovic and Haris Silajdjic?
Only one of them has survived till now but I would still like to know what your thoughts of them are and what do you think of Silajdjic cancelling his trip to Serbia because he could not visit a criminal in prison.

A straight forward answer would be most appreciated.

Nikola

pre 13 godina

When will the people of Serbia finally wake up. The only thing that holds Serbia back in its defense of its province is EU integration. When that is no longer a option, real options for actually regaining control of our province will begin to show up.

It's hilarious how there is not even a voice in Serbia apart from angry nationalists that can see the EU is not all its panned out to be and there should at least be a public debate on it.

In Serbia people are taught to believe the EU is the only option and there is no viable alternative, there is. The Serbs are still the largest ethnic group in the region, still have along with Croats biggest ceiling as far as economics & business go.

Our enemies must remember, it took the strongest military alliance in the world to keep us from taking almost everything there. In those 10-15 years after communism that alliance reigned supreme and unmatched. However, this is not the case even today.

Ruben-NYC

pre 13 godina

Jeremic probably think this is a great statement because he has said it over and over.

In fact, it is a demented comparison considering that Jerusalem has no ambition to become independent.

It made some sense in the 90s, but someone has to remind the youthful Serbian minister that he more than a decade late and is risking to alienate some new-found but well-deserved friends.

roberto

pre 13 godina

# This statement once more shows the fanatic nationalism and the crusade mentality of this man, but also many other serb politicians. This very attitude has justified mass murderer on Albanians, you now can fish from your seas and dig out from your acres. Its basically Serbia itself, not those uninspired, headless kosovo politicians that make clear, Kosovo can never be Serbian again.
(Arton n'Karton, 30 May 2010 13:44)

an excellent posting, among several. amidst the usual shrill personal attacks and nationalist sloganeering but anyway we never forget where we are.

and it is not just albanian bodies, thank you very much. i also did the tour of the tuzla house of the dead, you see.

i don't see any difference btwn this govt and that of milosevic except that now they cannot wage blatant war. and i suppose they wear better suits, i'm not even sure about that.

but both regimes cover(ed) war crimes and harbor(ed) war criminals; both use extensive nationalistic bombast; both are disinterested in the fate of the common people (s0 called); both wish to continue in power indefinitely; both use kosova to stoke tension and hate -- we could go on and on.

and some folks really admire such people as jeremic? how frightening and troubling.

thank you.

roberto
frisco

Aloys

pre 13 godina

Many people have changed their minds about Kosovo independence. It wasn't a very good idea after all. Kosovo today is independent only by name but not in reality. There is no true peace and the divisions are now greater then before. We in the Western world need to pressure the kosovar leadership to negotiate some kind of deal acceptable to serbs, since they don't seem happy with what has so far been offered. This current situation is leading serbs and kosovar albanians no where. No european perspective for the serbs and no UN for the kosovars. We need to admit it was a huge huge misstake and make things right the second time around. Serbs apparently won't budge and a military intervension is not on the agenda. A solution is to guarantee serbs the land they currently control if they then recognize the rest of Kosovo as an independet state. It looks we are heading this road anyways.

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

EA, we are still waiting for your link about the "supposed" Albanian documentary in ALSAT TV.
-
Your imagination has hit a wall, friend.

delon

pre 13 godina

Daniel!

I am glad that you underestimete those "labour force,uneducated Alb.".
Dont forget that those young man,let there western comfort,bought thamsalves a rifle,and guess what,they come and confronted your "mighty Serb army".
We all know how things turned.I guess,force is not only option in conflict.You ,well educated ,sticked to force,we "not well educated",acordin to you,sticked to force and something alse,and here we are .Kosova liberated,Kosova for Kosovars.
I am still glad you underestimate Albanians.

EA

pre 13 godina

“Kosovo has a deep historical and spiritual meaning for the Serbian people, it is, in a way, our Jerusalem."

We all know that he doesn't believe what he is saying because whole world knows the TRUTH. Jeremic still can't wake up of Serbian myths.


"We cannot accept unilateral conclusions by those governing in Priština,” he said.

Well in a free and democratic society Jeremic is entitle to think whatever he wants to think but when he says that "Serbia is ready to negotiate a compromise with the goal of guaranteeing stability for the entire region." that is purely political propaganda and a missuse of the word "compromise". If you would ask Jeremic what "compromise" would mean in Serbian political dictionary he would say "Serbia territorial sovereignity and integrity over Kosovo".

This Serbian kind of "compromise" would mean to Kosovo/a's Albanian an insult to the victims of Kosovo war, the history of Kosovo/a under Serbian state. These FACTS can not be built on Serbian myths anymore because the world is woken up at last.

"....that Belgrade did not use force or implement sanctions when Kosovo declared independence unilaterally.

Let's be sincere FOR ONCE. Serbia was FORCED OUT OF KOSOVO/A. Serbia can not deny that there was a war in Kosovo/a and that its military state machine were targeted by Western powers.

Jeremić said "...the upcoming EU-Western Balkans summit in Sarajevo, scheduled for June 2, he said that Serbia’s stance at the conference will be clear and in accordance with the constitution, that Kosovo is a part of Serbia.

Which Constitution is Jeremic talking about? Serbian Constitution? He really must be joking or need to be checked. To Kosovo/a's Albanians the Serbian constitution MEANS NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! And I am not saying that because of sake of saying it. Serbian Constitution was approved while the Kosovo negotiations mediated by the international negotiator Marti Ahtisari were still going on and Kosovo never was asked even as a matter of Serbian "courtesy"). So Jeremic is talking nonsense again and CHEAP POLITICS!

justhtruth

pre 13 godina

oppss ....a Slavic decedent is talking about history of Balkan ...what kind of grade in history this guy have it..Sir you your nation ARRIVED IN 7 CENTURY BALLKAN... take a look your language ,culture etc is no different from Russian and take o look Albanian no one can't match it with language or culture .....and a culture like yours whant to join EU really i don't know about that...

Jarina

pre 13 godina

Jeremic and Serbia "leaders", very well know that the Serbia in general is not in a position to choose between the EU and Kosova.

For sure Kosova will never be any more under Serbia as per EU in 10 years maybe but only when Serbia will recognize Kosova as Independent State.

genc

pre 13 godina

Well Vuk, who's running Jerusalem today? (let's forget for a while that Jerusalem is holy to 3 religions).

Sticking to mythology always hints to the fact that rational arguments are running out.

Mark

pre 13 godina

“We are not categorically rejecting any proposals,” Jeremić said, reminding that Belgrade did not use force or implement sanctions when Kosovo declared independence unilaterally.

What do you call the killing of ten thousand Albanians and the expulsion of one million of us?What do you call the mass graves that they still find in Serbia? The only reason that you didn't use force when kosovo declared independence is because you couldn't.Try to go against NATO again like Milosevic did and you will see.

I hope that we will not have to join any other camp other than the EU. We have been working hard for that,” Jeremić said.

You already have. This is your camp as of now: Russia,China,Iran,Venezuela,Cuba,Congo and the likes of them.

Qyqavica's Ilyrian

pre 13 godina

No wonder for Jeremic when mentioned Jerusalem since he is a half Muslim. In April newspapers were reporting that he use to pray in the mosques while in Arabia!

Mikael C

pre 13 godina

I hope Vuk was clear enough on what goes for Kosovo. Kosovo is and will always remain Serbian. Efforts to erase Serbian ownership of this land will fail. I'm glad and proud that Vuk is representing Serbs. We shall never accept the theft of our land by immigrants and outsiders.

ahmet

pre 13 godina

He said that Serbia is ready to negotiate a compromise with the goal of guaranteeing stability for the entire region.

there is peace where there was once war. now its stable .... not because of serbia but as a result of serbia

Daniel

pre 13 godina

Kosova-USA is being his usual poorly educated self. God, why are we allowing people like him into the US? I guess we need more laborers. So, you say that Serbs didn't have guts to go in militarily and attack Albanians after the declaration of independence? As if your Albanian brothers have guts. Without outside help they couldn't even battle their own corruption, let alone Serbs. How well did you all do when you fought Serbs alone? Not too well. Go back to whatever it is you do in your free time; I'm sure its nothing too important.

highduke

pre 13 godina

KiM was populated by Serbs before the Ottoman Era. 90% of the toponyms are Slavic. Albanians cleansed & assimilated Serbs up to Nis when they were serving the Turks and latest genetic research even shows that our pre-Serb ancestors living in Balkans since Mesolithic times. Albanians are ungreatful to us Serbs. They attacked us first every time.

lids

pre 13 godina

We were not afraid to take you on with all of your bombings and you can`t scare us with EU sinking organization.
KiM is not a bargain chip anymore,and don`t make us choose sides,for you would not like it..
Go Vuk..!!

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Kosova is the Jerusalem, the heart, the soul and everything to the Kosovars
===================

No such race. What language do you speak in your magical country of "Kosova"?
Is it Albanian and Serbian?
How come you don't speak Kosovar language?

No such race, language, religion etc.etc.etc.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Jeremic just confirms once again how much fanatic nationalism is enbottled in the Kosovo topic. Kosovo is NOT Jerusalem. Jerusalem IS Jerusalem, or how long it will take until some other fanatics will come claiming that Jesus got crucified in Kosovo? From a Christian point of view that kind of statement is absolutely unappropriated.

You will also not get certain countries, most notably Germany, on your side. There are clear requirements joining the EU, even with you subtle and indirect threats which already have been mentioned in that news. You obviously know that Serbia doesn't fulfill them (btw. not only because of the Kosovo policy). So give us a break and start being honest for a change. You repeating lies will not help you get any nearer to the SAA, not mentioning membership of the EU.

Jarina

pre 13 godina

It is really hard to understand this man, he apparently doesn't even know what he really wants? I will give an example here only a month ago he said "Serbia and Turkey have a historical tradition of good relations," "Serbia and Turkey are strategic partners, Serbia is the most important country for Turkey in the region, and then now something like "you would pull us in the interests of Turkey's sphere", "Serbian certainly can not go on the same train to the EU and Turkey" etc. one day the biggest brother and the biggest strategic partner, the other day when he sees that "partner" does not match it immediately starts to spit.

Simple Mind

pre 13 godina

Kosova is the Jerusalem, the heart, the soul and everything to the Kosovars. Frankly speaking it is irrelevant what Mr Jeremic believes is Kosova to Serbia. The only thing that matters is what the people who live in Kosova and have been living for eons. If the Kosovar Serbs are considering Kosova as their homeland than they have every right to Kosova as every Albanian living there!!!

Arton n'Karton

pre 13 godina

This statement once more shows the fanatic nationalism and the crusade mentality of this man, but also many other serb politicians. This very attitude has justified mass murderer on Albanians, you now can fish from your seas and dig out from your acres. Its basically Serbia itself, not those uninspired, headless kosovo politicians that make clear, Kosovo can never be Serbian again.

Arbanoi

pre 13 godina

Keep saying that, and it will come true. Magic exists little Vuk. When all else fails, and you start sensing that the upcoming ICJ opinion will not go the way you predicted, you turn to emotional arguments and sensational claims which most in the West discard as old.

Nik

pre 13 godina

Jeremic wants the EU and Kosovo.He threatens that without Kosovo no EU but Kosovo is gone for ever .The EU waits for him.Only trouble is he can never get Kosovo back for all his diplomatic flying.Decision time is coming soon for our Komunarci....

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

“We are not categorically rejecting any proposals,” Jeremić said, reminding that Belgrade did not use force or implement sanctions when Kosovo declared independence unilaterally.


did not use force=no guts no glory

sanction=serbian products gathering dust on shelvs

As for the rest of Vuk's coments, I say;" water under the bridge".

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

“We are not categorically rejecting any proposals,” Jeremić said, reminding that Belgrade did not use force or implement sanctions when Kosovo declared independence unilaterally.


did not use force=no guts no glory

sanction=serbian products gathering dust on shelvs

As for the rest of Vuk's coments, I say;" water under the bridge".

Jarina

pre 13 godina

It is really hard to understand this man, he apparently doesn't even know what he really wants? I will give an example here only a month ago he said "Serbia and Turkey have a historical tradition of good relations," "Serbia and Turkey are strategic partners, Serbia is the most important country for Turkey in the region, and then now something like "you would pull us in the interests of Turkey's sphere", "Serbian certainly can not go on the same train to the EU and Turkey" etc. one day the biggest brother and the biggest strategic partner, the other day when he sees that "partner" does not match it immediately starts to spit.

Mikael C

pre 13 godina

I hope Vuk was clear enough on what goes for Kosovo. Kosovo is and will always remain Serbian. Efforts to erase Serbian ownership of this land will fail. I'm glad and proud that Vuk is representing Serbs. We shall never accept the theft of our land by immigrants and outsiders.

Simple Mind

pre 13 godina

Kosova is the Jerusalem, the heart, the soul and everything to the Kosovars. Frankly speaking it is irrelevant what Mr Jeremic believes is Kosova to Serbia. The only thing that matters is what the people who live in Kosova and have been living for eons. If the Kosovar Serbs are considering Kosova as their homeland than they have every right to Kosova as every Albanian living there!!!

Arton n'Karton

pre 13 godina

This statement once more shows the fanatic nationalism and the crusade mentality of this man, but also many other serb politicians. This very attitude has justified mass murderer on Albanians, you now can fish from your seas and dig out from your acres. Its basically Serbia itself, not those uninspired, headless kosovo politicians that make clear, Kosovo can never be Serbian again.

ahmet

pre 13 godina

He said that Serbia is ready to negotiate a compromise with the goal of guaranteeing stability for the entire region.

there is peace where there was once war. now its stable .... not because of serbia but as a result of serbia

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Kosova is the Jerusalem, the heart, the soul and everything to the Kosovars
===================

No such race. What language do you speak in your magical country of "Kosova"?
Is it Albanian and Serbian?
How come you don't speak Kosovar language?

No such race, language, religion etc.etc.etc.

Nik

pre 13 godina

Jeremic wants the EU and Kosovo.He threatens that without Kosovo no EU but Kosovo is gone for ever .The EU waits for him.Only trouble is he can never get Kosovo back for all his diplomatic flying.Decision time is coming soon for our Komunarci....

Arbanoi

pre 13 godina

Keep saying that, and it will come true. Magic exists little Vuk. When all else fails, and you start sensing that the upcoming ICJ opinion will not go the way you predicted, you turn to emotional arguments and sensational claims which most in the West discard as old.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Jeremic just confirms once again how much fanatic nationalism is enbottled in the Kosovo topic. Kosovo is NOT Jerusalem. Jerusalem IS Jerusalem, or how long it will take until some other fanatics will come claiming that Jesus got crucified in Kosovo? From a Christian point of view that kind of statement is absolutely unappropriated.

You will also not get certain countries, most notably Germany, on your side. There are clear requirements joining the EU, even with you subtle and indirect threats which already have been mentioned in that news. You obviously know that Serbia doesn't fulfill them (btw. not only because of the Kosovo policy). So give us a break and start being honest for a change. You repeating lies will not help you get any nearer to the SAA, not mentioning membership of the EU.

Daniel

pre 13 godina

Kosova-USA is being his usual poorly educated self. God, why are we allowing people like him into the US? I guess we need more laborers. So, you say that Serbs didn't have guts to go in militarily and attack Albanians after the declaration of independence? As if your Albanian brothers have guts. Without outside help they couldn't even battle their own corruption, let alone Serbs. How well did you all do when you fought Serbs alone? Not too well. Go back to whatever it is you do in your free time; I'm sure its nothing too important.

Jarina

pre 13 godina

Jeremic and Serbia "leaders", very well know that the Serbia in general is not in a position to choose between the EU and Kosova.

For sure Kosova will never be any more under Serbia as per EU in 10 years maybe but only when Serbia will recognize Kosova as Independent State.

lids

pre 13 godina

We were not afraid to take you on with all of your bombings and you can`t scare us with EU sinking organization.
KiM is not a bargain chip anymore,and don`t make us choose sides,for you would not like it..
Go Vuk..!!

highduke

pre 13 godina

KiM was populated by Serbs before the Ottoman Era. 90% of the toponyms are Slavic. Albanians cleansed & assimilated Serbs up to Nis when they were serving the Turks and latest genetic research even shows that our pre-Serb ancestors living in Balkans since Mesolithic times. Albanians are ungreatful to us Serbs. They attacked us first every time.

justhtruth

pre 13 godina

oppss ....a Slavic decedent is talking about history of Balkan ...what kind of grade in history this guy have it..Sir you your nation ARRIVED IN 7 CENTURY BALLKAN... take a look your language ,culture etc is no different from Russian and take o look Albanian no one can't match it with language or culture .....and a culture like yours whant to join EU really i don't know about that...

EA

pre 13 godina

“Kosovo has a deep historical and spiritual meaning for the Serbian people, it is, in a way, our Jerusalem."

We all know that he doesn't believe what he is saying because whole world knows the TRUTH. Jeremic still can't wake up of Serbian myths.


"We cannot accept unilateral conclusions by those governing in Priština,” he said.

Well in a free and democratic society Jeremic is entitle to think whatever he wants to think but when he says that "Serbia is ready to negotiate a compromise with the goal of guaranteeing stability for the entire region." that is purely political propaganda and a missuse of the word "compromise". If you would ask Jeremic what "compromise" would mean in Serbian political dictionary he would say "Serbia territorial sovereignity and integrity over Kosovo".

This Serbian kind of "compromise" would mean to Kosovo/a's Albanian an insult to the victims of Kosovo war, the history of Kosovo/a under Serbian state. These FACTS can not be built on Serbian myths anymore because the world is woken up at last.

"....that Belgrade did not use force or implement sanctions when Kosovo declared independence unilaterally.

Let's be sincere FOR ONCE. Serbia was FORCED OUT OF KOSOVO/A. Serbia can not deny that there was a war in Kosovo/a and that its military state machine were targeted by Western powers.

Jeremić said "...the upcoming EU-Western Balkans summit in Sarajevo, scheduled for June 2, he said that Serbia’s stance at the conference will be clear and in accordance with the constitution, that Kosovo is a part of Serbia.

Which Constitution is Jeremic talking about? Serbian Constitution? He really must be joking or need to be checked. To Kosovo/a's Albanians the Serbian constitution MEANS NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! And I am not saying that because of sake of saying it. Serbian Constitution was approved while the Kosovo negotiations mediated by the international negotiator Marti Ahtisari were still going on and Kosovo never was asked even as a matter of Serbian "courtesy"). So Jeremic is talking nonsense again and CHEAP POLITICS!

Mark

pre 13 godina

“We are not categorically rejecting any proposals,” Jeremić said, reminding that Belgrade did not use force or implement sanctions when Kosovo declared independence unilaterally.

What do you call the killing of ten thousand Albanians and the expulsion of one million of us?What do you call the mass graves that they still find in Serbia? The only reason that you didn't use force when kosovo declared independence is because you couldn't.Try to go against NATO again like Milosevic did and you will see.

I hope that we will not have to join any other camp other than the EU. We have been working hard for that,” Jeremić said.

You already have. This is your camp as of now: Russia,China,Iran,Venezuela,Cuba,Congo and the likes of them.

delon

pre 13 godina

Daniel!

I am glad that you underestimete those "labour force,uneducated Alb.".
Dont forget that those young man,let there western comfort,bought thamsalves a rifle,and guess what,they come and confronted your "mighty Serb army".
We all know how things turned.I guess,force is not only option in conflict.You ,well educated ,sticked to force,we "not well educated",acordin to you,sticked to force and something alse,and here we are .Kosova liberated,Kosova for Kosovars.
I am still glad you underestimate Albanians.

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

EA, we are still waiting for your link about the "supposed" Albanian documentary in ALSAT TV.
-
Your imagination has hit a wall, friend.

genc

pre 13 godina

Well Vuk, who's running Jerusalem today? (let's forget for a while that Jerusalem is holy to 3 religions).

Sticking to mythology always hints to the fact that rational arguments are running out.

Qyqavica's Ilyrian

pre 13 godina

No wonder for Jeremic when mentioned Jerusalem since he is a half Muslim. In April newspapers were reporting that he use to pray in the mosques while in Arabia!

roberto

pre 13 godina

# This statement once more shows the fanatic nationalism and the crusade mentality of this man, but also many other serb politicians. This very attitude has justified mass murderer on Albanians, you now can fish from your seas and dig out from your acres. Its basically Serbia itself, not those uninspired, headless kosovo politicians that make clear, Kosovo can never be Serbian again.
(Arton n'Karton, 30 May 2010 13:44)

an excellent posting, among several. amidst the usual shrill personal attacks and nationalist sloganeering but anyway we never forget where we are.

and it is not just albanian bodies, thank you very much. i also did the tour of the tuzla house of the dead, you see.

i don't see any difference btwn this govt and that of milosevic except that now they cannot wage blatant war. and i suppose they wear better suits, i'm not even sure about that.

but both regimes cover(ed) war crimes and harbor(ed) war criminals; both use extensive nationalistic bombast; both are disinterested in the fate of the common people (s0 called); both wish to continue in power indefinitely; both use kosova to stoke tension and hate -- we could go on and on.

and some folks really admire such people as jeremic? how frightening and troubling.

thank you.

roberto
frisco

Ataman

pre 13 godina

and some folks really admire such people as jeremic? how frightening and troubling.

thank you.

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 30 May 2010 20:30)

Yes, now you can say:
Who let Jeremic out? Woof, woof!

How scary.

Be aware, every time you are with Serbs or Russians - your life is in danger. You could become either Muckalica or Beef Stroganoff in nanoseconds.

And one day some careless foreign "advisors" can become Khinkali

http://tinyurl.com/388jedn
http://tinyurl.com/34ywpxn

in Georgia and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Kiev

in Ukraine.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

and some folks really admire such people as jeremic? how frightening and troubling.

thank you.

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 30 May 2010 20:30)
===================
So, what do you think of Izetbegovic and Haris Silajdjic?
Only one of them has survived till now but I would still like to know what your thoughts of them are and what do you think of Silajdjic cancelling his trip to Serbia because he could not visit a criminal in prison.

A straight forward answer would be most appreciated.

Aloys

pre 13 godina

Many people have changed their minds about Kosovo independence. It wasn't a very good idea after all. Kosovo today is independent only by name but not in reality. There is no true peace and the divisions are now greater then before. We in the Western world need to pressure the kosovar leadership to negotiate some kind of deal acceptable to serbs, since they don't seem happy with what has so far been offered. This current situation is leading serbs and kosovar albanians no where. No european perspective for the serbs and no UN for the kosovars. We need to admit it was a huge huge misstake and make things right the second time around. Serbs apparently won't budge and a military intervension is not on the agenda. A solution is to guarantee serbs the land they currently control if they then recognize the rest of Kosovo as an independet state. It looks we are heading this road anyways.

bishop

pre 13 godina

@lance
you said "the slavs started to come to balkans only in the 7th cent. and that albanians lived all over serbia before that"

this is simply a lie. do some more reading and you can see that the only "slavs" that came to the region then were warriors who assimilated the people who they found living there. all balkan people are a big mix of thracians, illyrians, dacians, triballians, greeks etc. "albanians" did not live there in the time you mentioned because they did not EXIST at the time. the first time the word ALBANIAN was used in the balkans was in the 12th century.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

I´d be happy if Serbia prevented joining to this supra-national jail.

Serbs are not Albanians, we do not accept foreign rule.

while the Ottomans were occupying us we refused to convert or even accept them.

why should we accept to be servants of the economically stronger EU-countries like Germany, France etc. ?

but, I am afraid, most Serbs are blindfoldedly going to vote for the EU...

poverty makes tham blind.

Janez-Beograd

pre 13 godina

You already have. This is your camp as of now: Russia,China,Iran,Venezuela,Cuba,Congo and the likes of them.
(Mark, 30 May 2010 17:41)

Give me Cuba and Venezuela over Saudi Arabia, Mauritania and Somalia any day.

Janez-Beograd

pre 13 godina

Presevo Bujanovac Medvexha
DEAL OR NO DEAL
(Rocky, 31 May 2010 04:07)

K-Albanians are not in any position to make extra-territorial demands to Serbia. Whatever deal the West and Serbia comes up with, you lot will have to suck it up. By demanding Presevo & rest of Albanian municipalities in S. Serbia just highlights your fascist mentality of not allowing any Albanians to live in Serbia.

Mirub Jager

pre 13 godina

Mr. Jeremic,

That is an insult to Israel and its people. Jerusalem is under Israel's control, Kosovo is lost to Serbia forever.

delon

pre 13 godina

Janez-Beograd!
Albanians are big factor in Ballkans,you like it or not.
Serbia is not Yugosllavia,if you think about it ,it is only 1/6 of it.We know what Yugosllavia was,and what Serbia is today,with some 200 rusted tanks,and some 30 outdated planes.
20years from now ,Albanians will be all together in one confederate state,in much better position that landloocked Serbia!

Ataman

pre 13 godina

Mr. Jeremic,

That is an insult to Israel and its people. Jerusalem is under Israel's control, Kosovo is lost to Serbia forever.
(Mirub Jager, 31 May 2010 17:45)

You have NOTHING to say about this, Jerusalem is not YOUR business.
And as far as insulting Israel and it's people - IMO here Roberto does excel on the regular basis - as far as I am concerned. That's happen to be my business more-less (rather more), too.

Good day.

Ruben-NYC

pre 13 godina

Jeremic probably think this is a great statement because he has said it over and over.

In fact, it is a demented comparison considering that Jerusalem has no ambition to become independent.

It made some sense in the 90s, but someone has to remind the youthful Serbian minister that he more than a decade late and is risking to alienate some new-found but well-deserved friends.

Nikola

pre 13 godina

When will the people of Serbia finally wake up. The only thing that holds Serbia back in its defense of its province is EU integration. When that is no longer a option, real options for actually regaining control of our province will begin to show up.

It's hilarious how there is not even a voice in Serbia apart from angry nationalists that can see the EU is not all its panned out to be and there should at least be a public debate on it.

In Serbia people are taught to believe the EU is the only option and there is no viable alternative, there is. The Serbs are still the largest ethnic group in the region, still have along with Croats biggest ceiling as far as economics & business go.

Our enemies must remember, it took the strongest military alliance in the world to keep us from taking almost everything there. In those 10-15 years after communism that alliance reigned supreme and unmatched. However, this is not the case even today.

Lance

pre 13 godina

KiM was populated by Serbs before the Ottoman Era. 90% of the toponyms are Slavic. Albanians cleansed & assimilated Serbs up to Nis when they were serving the Turks and latest genetic research even shows that our pre-Serb ancestors living in Balkans since Mesolithic times. Albanians are ungreatful to us Serbs. They attacked us first every time.
(highduke, 30 May 2010 15:48)

hi duke,

I don't know where to begin! Are you saying your pre-Serb
ancestors were in the Balkans before the Slavs started arriving in the Balkans from the Urals about the 7th century?

btw, The Albanians lived as far north as Nis before the Serbs started arriving to the Balkans. However, please tell us how the "latest" genetic research explain your claim that the Serbs' ancestors were in the Balkans before the Serbs even arrived in the Balkans.

marko

pre 13 godina

last time i checked kosovo is a region and jerusalem is a city - i would expect this guy to know his geography especially since he is always all over the world.

Milan

pre 13 godina

That is an insult to Israel and its people. Jerusalem is under Israel's control, Kosovo is lost to Serbia forever.
(Mirub Jager, 31 May 2010 17:45)

Come to North Mitrovica and say here, that Kosovo is lost for Serbia ;)

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

“We are not categorically rejecting any proposals,” Jeremić said, reminding that Belgrade did not use force or implement sanctions when Kosovo declared independence unilaterally.


did not use force=no guts no glory

sanction=serbian products gathering dust on shelvs

As for the rest of Vuk's coments, I say;" water under the bridge".

Arton n'Karton

pre 13 godina

This statement once more shows the fanatic nationalism and the crusade mentality of this man, but also many other serb politicians. This very attitude has justified mass murderer on Albanians, you now can fish from your seas and dig out from your acres. Its basically Serbia itself, not those uninspired, headless kosovo politicians that make clear, Kosovo can never be Serbian again.

Simple Mind

pre 13 godina

Kosova is the Jerusalem, the heart, the soul and everything to the Kosovars. Frankly speaking it is irrelevant what Mr Jeremic believes is Kosova to Serbia. The only thing that matters is what the people who live in Kosova and have been living for eons. If the Kosovar Serbs are considering Kosova as their homeland than they have every right to Kosova as every Albanian living there!!!

roberto

pre 13 godina

# This statement once more shows the fanatic nationalism and the crusade mentality of this man, but also many other serb politicians. This very attitude has justified mass murderer on Albanians, you now can fish from your seas and dig out from your acres. Its basically Serbia itself, not those uninspired, headless kosovo politicians that make clear, Kosovo can never be Serbian again.
(Arton n'Karton, 30 May 2010 13:44)

an excellent posting, among several. amidst the usual shrill personal attacks and nationalist sloganeering but anyway we never forget where we are.

and it is not just albanian bodies, thank you very much. i also did the tour of the tuzla house of the dead, you see.

i don't see any difference btwn this govt and that of milosevic except that now they cannot wage blatant war. and i suppose they wear better suits, i'm not even sure about that.

but both regimes cover(ed) war crimes and harbor(ed) war criminals; both use extensive nationalistic bombast; both are disinterested in the fate of the common people (s0 called); both wish to continue in power indefinitely; both use kosova to stoke tension and hate -- we could go on and on.

and some folks really admire such people as jeremic? how frightening and troubling.

thank you.

roberto
frisco

Arbanoi

pre 13 godina

Keep saying that, and it will come true. Magic exists little Vuk. When all else fails, and you start sensing that the upcoming ICJ opinion will not go the way you predicted, you turn to emotional arguments and sensational claims which most in the West discard as old.

highduke

pre 13 godina

KiM was populated by Serbs before the Ottoman Era. 90% of the toponyms are Slavic. Albanians cleansed & assimilated Serbs up to Nis when they were serving the Turks and latest genetic research even shows that our pre-Serb ancestors living in Balkans since Mesolithic times. Albanians are ungreatful to us Serbs. They attacked us first every time.

Mikael C

pre 13 godina

I hope Vuk was clear enough on what goes for Kosovo. Kosovo is and will always remain Serbian. Efforts to erase Serbian ownership of this land will fail. I'm glad and proud that Vuk is representing Serbs. We shall never accept the theft of our land by immigrants and outsiders.

Nik

pre 13 godina

Jeremic wants the EU and Kosovo.He threatens that without Kosovo no EU but Kosovo is gone for ever .The EU waits for him.Only trouble is he can never get Kosovo back for all his diplomatic flying.Decision time is coming soon for our Komunarci....

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Kosova is the Jerusalem, the heart, the soul and everything to the Kosovars
===================

No such race. What language do you speak in your magical country of "Kosova"?
Is it Albanian and Serbian?
How come you don't speak Kosovar language?

No such race, language, religion etc.etc.etc.

Mark

pre 13 godina

“We are not categorically rejecting any proposals,” Jeremić said, reminding that Belgrade did not use force or implement sanctions when Kosovo declared independence unilaterally.

What do you call the killing of ten thousand Albanians and the expulsion of one million of us?What do you call the mass graves that they still find in Serbia? The only reason that you didn't use force when kosovo declared independence is because you couldn't.Try to go against NATO again like Milosevic did and you will see.

I hope that we will not have to join any other camp other than the EU. We have been working hard for that,” Jeremić said.

You already have. This is your camp as of now: Russia,China,Iran,Venezuela,Cuba,Congo and the likes of them.

justhtruth

pre 13 godina

oppss ....a Slavic decedent is talking about history of Balkan ...what kind of grade in history this guy have it..Sir you your nation ARRIVED IN 7 CENTURY BALLKAN... take a look your language ,culture etc is no different from Russian and take o look Albanian no one can't match it with language or culture .....and a culture like yours whant to join EU really i don't know about that...

EA

pre 13 godina

“Kosovo has a deep historical and spiritual meaning for the Serbian people, it is, in a way, our Jerusalem."

We all know that he doesn't believe what he is saying because whole world knows the TRUTH. Jeremic still can't wake up of Serbian myths.


"We cannot accept unilateral conclusions by those governing in Priština,” he said.

Well in a free and democratic society Jeremic is entitle to think whatever he wants to think but when he says that "Serbia is ready to negotiate a compromise with the goal of guaranteeing stability for the entire region." that is purely political propaganda and a missuse of the word "compromise". If you would ask Jeremic what "compromise" would mean in Serbian political dictionary he would say "Serbia territorial sovereignity and integrity over Kosovo".

This Serbian kind of "compromise" would mean to Kosovo/a's Albanian an insult to the victims of Kosovo war, the history of Kosovo/a under Serbian state. These FACTS can not be built on Serbian myths anymore because the world is woken up at last.

"....that Belgrade did not use force or implement sanctions when Kosovo declared independence unilaterally.

Let's be sincere FOR ONCE. Serbia was FORCED OUT OF KOSOVO/A. Serbia can not deny that there was a war in Kosovo/a and that its military state machine were targeted by Western powers.

Jeremić said "...the upcoming EU-Western Balkans summit in Sarajevo, scheduled for June 2, he said that Serbia’s stance at the conference will be clear and in accordance with the constitution, that Kosovo is a part of Serbia.

Which Constitution is Jeremic talking about? Serbian Constitution? He really must be joking or need to be checked. To Kosovo/a's Albanians the Serbian constitution MEANS NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! And I am not saying that because of sake of saying it. Serbian Constitution was approved while the Kosovo negotiations mediated by the international negotiator Marti Ahtisari were still going on and Kosovo never was asked even as a matter of Serbian "courtesy"). So Jeremic is talking nonsense again and CHEAP POLITICS!

Jarina

pre 13 godina

It is really hard to understand this man, he apparently doesn't even know what he really wants? I will give an example here only a month ago he said "Serbia and Turkey have a historical tradition of good relations," "Serbia and Turkey are strategic partners, Serbia is the most important country for Turkey in the region, and then now something like "you would pull us in the interests of Turkey's sphere", "Serbian certainly can not go on the same train to the EU and Turkey" etc. one day the biggest brother and the biggest strategic partner, the other day when he sees that "partner" does not match it immediately starts to spit.

Daniel

pre 13 godina

Kosova-USA is being his usual poorly educated self. God, why are we allowing people like him into the US? I guess we need more laborers. So, you say that Serbs didn't have guts to go in militarily and attack Albanians after the declaration of independence? As if your Albanian brothers have guts. Without outside help they couldn't even battle their own corruption, let alone Serbs. How well did you all do when you fought Serbs alone? Not too well. Go back to whatever it is you do in your free time; I'm sure its nothing too important.

Jarina

pre 13 godina

Jeremic and Serbia "leaders", very well know that the Serbia in general is not in a position to choose between the EU and Kosova.

For sure Kosova will never be any more under Serbia as per EU in 10 years maybe but only when Serbia will recognize Kosova as Independent State.

Qyqavica's Ilyrian

pre 13 godina

No wonder for Jeremic when mentioned Jerusalem since he is a half Muslim. In April newspapers were reporting that he use to pray in the mosques while in Arabia!

Aloys

pre 13 godina

Many people have changed their minds about Kosovo independence. It wasn't a very good idea after all. Kosovo today is independent only by name but not in reality. There is no true peace and the divisions are now greater then before. We in the Western world need to pressure the kosovar leadership to negotiate some kind of deal acceptable to serbs, since they don't seem happy with what has so far been offered. This current situation is leading serbs and kosovar albanians no where. No european perspective for the serbs and no UN for the kosovars. We need to admit it was a huge huge misstake and make things right the second time around. Serbs apparently won't budge and a military intervension is not on the agenda. A solution is to guarantee serbs the land they currently control if they then recognize the rest of Kosovo as an independet state. It looks we are heading this road anyways.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Jeremic just confirms once again how much fanatic nationalism is enbottled in the Kosovo topic. Kosovo is NOT Jerusalem. Jerusalem IS Jerusalem, or how long it will take until some other fanatics will come claiming that Jesus got crucified in Kosovo? From a Christian point of view that kind of statement is absolutely unappropriated.

You will also not get certain countries, most notably Germany, on your side. There are clear requirements joining the EU, even with you subtle and indirect threats which already have been mentioned in that news. You obviously know that Serbia doesn't fulfill them (btw. not only because of the Kosovo policy). So give us a break and start being honest for a change. You repeating lies will not help you get any nearer to the SAA, not mentioning membership of the EU.

lids

pre 13 godina

We were not afraid to take you on with all of your bombings and you can`t scare us with EU sinking organization.
KiM is not a bargain chip anymore,and don`t make us choose sides,for you would not like it..
Go Vuk..!!

ahmet

pre 13 godina

He said that Serbia is ready to negotiate a compromise with the goal of guaranteeing stability for the entire region.

there is peace where there was once war. now its stable .... not because of serbia but as a result of serbia

genc

pre 13 godina

Well Vuk, who's running Jerusalem today? (let's forget for a while that Jerusalem is holy to 3 religions).

Sticking to mythology always hints to the fact that rational arguments are running out.

delon

pre 13 godina

Daniel!

I am glad that you underestimete those "labour force,uneducated Alb.".
Dont forget that those young man,let there western comfort,bought thamsalves a rifle,and guess what,they come and confronted your "mighty Serb army".
We all know how things turned.I guess,force is not only option in conflict.You ,well educated ,sticked to force,we "not well educated",acordin to you,sticked to force and something alse,and here we are .Kosova liberated,Kosova for Kosovars.
I am still glad you underestimate Albanians.

Lance

pre 13 godina

KiM was populated by Serbs before the Ottoman Era. 90% of the toponyms are Slavic. Albanians cleansed & assimilated Serbs up to Nis when they were serving the Turks and latest genetic research even shows that our pre-Serb ancestors living in Balkans since Mesolithic times. Albanians are ungreatful to us Serbs. They attacked us first every time.
(highduke, 30 May 2010 15:48)

hi duke,

I don't know where to begin! Are you saying your pre-Serb
ancestors were in the Balkans before the Slavs started arriving in the Balkans from the Urals about the 7th century?

btw, The Albanians lived as far north as Nis before the Serbs started arriving to the Balkans. However, please tell us how the "latest" genetic research explain your claim that the Serbs' ancestors were in the Balkans before the Serbs even arrived in the Balkans.

delon

pre 13 godina

Janez-Beograd!
Albanians are big factor in Ballkans,you like it or not.
Serbia is not Yugosllavia,if you think about it ,it is only 1/6 of it.We know what Yugosllavia was,and what Serbia is today,with some 200 rusted tanks,and some 30 outdated planes.
20years from now ,Albanians will be all together in one confederate state,in much better position that landloocked Serbia!

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

EA, we are still waiting for your link about the "supposed" Albanian documentary in ALSAT TV.
-
Your imagination has hit a wall, friend.

Mirub Jager

pre 13 godina

Mr. Jeremic,

That is an insult to Israel and its people. Jerusalem is under Israel's control, Kosovo is lost to Serbia forever.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

I´d be happy if Serbia prevented joining to this supra-national jail.

Serbs are not Albanians, we do not accept foreign rule.

while the Ottomans were occupying us we refused to convert or even accept them.

why should we accept to be servants of the economically stronger EU-countries like Germany, France etc. ?

but, I am afraid, most Serbs are blindfoldedly going to vote for the EU...

poverty makes tham blind.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

and some folks really admire such people as jeremic? how frightening and troubling.

thank you.

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 30 May 2010 20:30)
===================
So, what do you think of Izetbegovic and Haris Silajdjic?
Only one of them has survived till now but I would still like to know what your thoughts of them are and what do you think of Silajdjic cancelling his trip to Serbia because he could not visit a criminal in prison.

A straight forward answer would be most appreciated.

bishop

pre 13 godina

@lance
you said "the slavs started to come to balkans only in the 7th cent. and that albanians lived all over serbia before that"

this is simply a lie. do some more reading and you can see that the only "slavs" that came to the region then were warriors who assimilated the people who they found living there. all balkan people are a big mix of thracians, illyrians, dacians, triballians, greeks etc. "albanians" did not live there in the time you mentioned because they did not EXIST at the time. the first time the word ALBANIAN was used in the balkans was in the 12th century.

Ruben-NYC

pre 13 godina

Jeremic probably think this is a great statement because he has said it over and over.

In fact, it is a demented comparison considering that Jerusalem has no ambition to become independent.

It made some sense in the 90s, but someone has to remind the youthful Serbian minister that he more than a decade late and is risking to alienate some new-found but well-deserved friends.

Janez-Beograd

pre 13 godina

You already have. This is your camp as of now: Russia,China,Iran,Venezuela,Cuba,Congo and the likes of them.
(Mark, 30 May 2010 17:41)

Give me Cuba and Venezuela over Saudi Arabia, Mauritania and Somalia any day.

Janez-Beograd

pre 13 godina

Presevo Bujanovac Medvexha
DEAL OR NO DEAL
(Rocky, 31 May 2010 04:07)

K-Albanians are not in any position to make extra-territorial demands to Serbia. Whatever deal the West and Serbia comes up with, you lot will have to suck it up. By demanding Presevo & rest of Albanian municipalities in S. Serbia just highlights your fascist mentality of not allowing any Albanians to live in Serbia.

Nikola

pre 13 godina

When will the people of Serbia finally wake up. The only thing that holds Serbia back in its defense of its province is EU integration. When that is no longer a option, real options for actually regaining control of our province will begin to show up.

It's hilarious how there is not even a voice in Serbia apart from angry nationalists that can see the EU is not all its panned out to be and there should at least be a public debate on it.

In Serbia people are taught to believe the EU is the only option and there is no viable alternative, there is. The Serbs are still the largest ethnic group in the region, still have along with Croats biggest ceiling as far as economics & business go.

Our enemies must remember, it took the strongest military alliance in the world to keep us from taking almost everything there. In those 10-15 years after communism that alliance reigned supreme and unmatched. However, this is not the case even today.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

and some folks really admire such people as jeremic? how frightening and troubling.

thank you.

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 30 May 2010 20:30)

Yes, now you can say:
Who let Jeremic out? Woof, woof!

How scary.

Be aware, every time you are with Serbs or Russians - your life is in danger. You could become either Muckalica or Beef Stroganoff in nanoseconds.

And one day some careless foreign "advisors" can become Khinkali

http://tinyurl.com/388jedn
http://tinyurl.com/34ywpxn

in Georgia and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Kiev

in Ukraine.

marko

pre 13 godina

last time i checked kosovo is a region and jerusalem is a city - i would expect this guy to know his geography especially since he is always all over the world.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

Mr. Jeremic,

That is an insult to Israel and its people. Jerusalem is under Israel's control, Kosovo is lost to Serbia forever.
(Mirub Jager, 31 May 2010 17:45)

You have NOTHING to say about this, Jerusalem is not YOUR business.
And as far as insulting Israel and it's people - IMO here Roberto does excel on the regular basis - as far as I am concerned. That's happen to be my business more-less (rather more), too.

Good day.

Milan

pre 13 godina

That is an insult to Israel and its people. Jerusalem is under Israel's control, Kosovo is lost to Serbia forever.
(Mirub Jager, 31 May 2010 17:45)

Come to North Mitrovica and say here, that Kosovo is lost for Serbia ;)