“Serbia cannot join EU without recognizing Kosovo”
Serbia can't join the EU unless it recognizes Kosovo and achieves cooperation with authorities in Priština, says the European Parliament rapporteur for Kosovo.
Maybe you live for yourself in western comfort ser,but serbians that live in serbia dont agree with you,they might want the EU.
(delon)
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Have you been to Belgrade? Try telling the Serbs what you think they want.
as an EU citizen I'm thinking: let's see how many years or decades it's going to take until Serbia will be able to contribute something countable or valueable to Europe in return to EU tax payer's money :)
(joga, 29 May 2010 23:22)
If he's saying that about Serbia at least it means there's absolutely no chance of joga welcoming Albania to the EU.
“In order to achieve the goal, endless questioning of (Kosovo's) independence is not helpful by any means. I don’t see that the wish of the Serbian government to reintegrate Kosovo is realistic,”
It is as simple as that. Serbia is facing a dilemma. Is it willing to enter the EU and is it able to reintegrate Kosovo, a task it failed to achieve after 1981 using all the military means it had on it disposal and while the world was looking elsewhere. If Serbia wants to exact some ‘price” for giving its consent to let Kosovo go, the time when it could get some meaningful concessions is gone while the price Serbia is paying for its refusal is growing. What is the Serbian strategy, one wonders?
In order to achieve the goal, endless questioning of (Kosovo's) independence is not helpful by any means. I don’t see that the wish of the Serbian government to reintegrate Kosovo is realistic,” Lunacek was further quoted as saying.
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The Serbian people dont see how an independant Kosovo is realistc.
as an EU citizen I'm thinking: let's see how many years or decades it's going to take until Serbia will be able to contribute something countable or valueable to Europe in return to EU tax payer's money :)
Didn't it say it was the Chairman of the European Parliament who said this?
The European Parliament already passed a motion for all EU countries to recognise Kosovo so the Chairman's view is nothing different. But nobody cares what they have to say because the European Parliament has no power as anything important is decided by the Council.
EU will break apart (can't wait) before Serbia get invitiation to join it. They ask Serbia to give away of 12.3% of its territory for joining some artificial union with expiry date (for some 10 yrs is possible to fall apart). No thanks!
As for so called independent KosovA they won't make any condition even for 50 yrs. That's reality! You cannot civilize war criminals in Pristina governement. It's impossible!
From here in the US, it seems to be much more prudent NOT to join the EU and adopt the Euro. Serbia has already gone through the difficulties the rest of Europe is getting ready to face. Stay independent. Keep your own currency.
Of course every freedom-loving Serb will be lining up to thank this latest EU interloper into the internal affairs of Serbia!
If the EU were not dominated by such intellectually under-endowed officials, they might have realized that by first demanding Mladic's head and now the surrender of sacred Kosovo, the EU officials themselves have become the most effective defenders of Serbian sovereignty from EU takeover.
Crushed by decades of sanctions, brainwashed by Western-controlled media (yes, you know who I'm talking about), bribed with visa-free tours of the "civilized" Western-European states that bombed them, enticed by sub-poverty-level salaries as gastarbeiters-at-home-in-Serbia working in the same factories that their own government "privatized" for cents on the euro to absentee German masters, and culturally guided by a subservient clique of OTPOR (resistance-NOT!) collaborators playing pied piper to ignorant youth... Serbia might just have consented (surrendered) to EU membership (occupation).
But, like the Grimm Fairy Tale of the Fisherman and His (greedy) Wife, the overconfident German-led EU has always demanded too much... and just as the Fisherman's wife lost all, so too shall the EU lose all in the Balkans by seeking to become "God" of Kosovo, Serbia's eternal heaven.
Let's all agree to remember how easily predictable the failure of the EU grab for Serbia was as of this date...
Best regards to friend... and foe...
Stop the EU! Freedom for Serbia! Freedom for all Europeans!
For all who have not noticed that the EURO is in a free fall. Greece was about to go tits up and was saved by Germany. I am sure other new EU countries are in the red but has hidden it pretty good. Portugal and Spain are next. Serbia in my point of view should steer clear of the EU or it's economy will be in trouble as well. The EU is not as rosy as everyone thinks. If you notice England and some other Europeon countries are on the side lines and now everyone sees why.
there is and never was any shred of doubt that serbia can only ever enter the EU by recognizing kosovo.
so long as serbia continues with the delusion that it has any claim over kosovo... Its OWN stance admits that it has zero authority and control over a massive portion of what it views as its territory ..it simply does NOT qualify for EU membership.
it simply defies all logic than serbs continue to delude themselves to the possibility.
Do you have an opinion on an official head of state cancelling a scheduled visit to another country because he can't go to see a convicted war criminal in prison?
Would be nice if your views were actually as balanced as you pretend them to be...
Good cop, bad cop. Gee this is an old one. If Serbia really wants to join this bankrupt EU then tell them sign the SAA before the end of this year or you can keep your EU and watch the EU officials scramble like rats in panic.
This would make one the funniest TV soap operas. They are threatening Serbia with nothing, ha, ha, ha! Keep up the comedy boys!
No compromise on Kosovo, no Haris Silajdjic in Belgrade and no compromise on borders with Croatia, but EU keep up the good work you’re funnier than the US.
FAO: Ulrike Lunacek
An Unreal Lunatic wouldn't utter the nonsense you have spewed out in this interview.
You obviously still have a chip on your shoulder about the events of 1914 & 1939.
Austria won't escape the exposure of her governments' sordid antics and corrupt capers throughout the last 2 decades in the Balkans.
She will also end up having to make amends for stirring up the anti-Serb psychosis which was spread throughout Europe and the World during the Balkan crises.
Shame on you!
This lady's opinion is frankly worthless. She can enjoy drinks with Doris Pack on Place Luxembourg (next to the EP) and slag off the serbs as much as she likes but it makes no difference.
1: The decision will be made in Paris, London & Berlin.
2: Germany may well be weary of letting more countries in but despite their historical serbo-phobia, like the mafia and other organized crime groups, they'll look at the business case - i.e. is the serbian economy solid. It is and it is also a significant market. The german economy has been driven by exports for decades. Oh, and before anyone moans about serbia's economy, just look at its neighboring basket cases.
3: No Serbia, no Stability Pact. Brussels can flush its balkans policy down the toilet and wash away its only allies in Belgrade, Tadic and co.
4: Even if does not join the EU, it still has 8 million people, it is still the shortest route between asia and the rest of europe and finally destabilizing Serbia destabilizes the region. Even the dying Nato is desperate to have Serbia in. Go figure.
Oh miracle, a straight forward European official. Only a naive or moron might assume that 22 countries will neglect the fact that Serbia didn't recognize Kosovo. Serbia has only 2 choices, joining EU and losing Kosovo, or losing both.
#Without the good will to have good cooperation with Kosovo, Serbia cannot be a member of the EU because cross-border cooperation is one of the arteries of the European idea. I'm reminding you that Serbia still isn’t even a candidate for membership” said Lunacek, the daily reported
That means a STRAIGHT TALK and not messing around in "the name of Serbian nationalism" and "misleading the Serbian people"... (EA)
i really agree, EA. it is obvious regarding the entering of the EU, but it really goes beyond that. all this trash-talk, threats about "frozen conflict" that we hear here all of the time (ad nauseum), it is such nonsense , such nihilism.
why would you actually keep fighting to maintain "frozen conflict"? (unless you are the govt of n korea or belarus, etc) -- it's just so irrational. and that the world would approve of it? and the intl's have also been guilty of ambiguous and contradictory statements, which has promoted the ultra-nationalist reactions. that, too, is our responsibility.
but some of us, from the get go, have concurred with this EU representative -- there is no real place at the table for serbia until she makes peace with her neighbors. with Kosova, with bosnia, with ALL her neighbors. and there is a whole lot of work between now and that future point.
I have a feeling that Germany has told its EU partners that there will be no new admissions to the EU (except for Croatia) for at least a decade.
Serbia with its economic problems, unsolved Kosovo issue,interference in its neighbor's affairs, and continued refusal to fulfill its obligation of arresting and extraditing war criminals will not join the EU for more then a decade.
Before the Eruo tanked there was a lot of goodwill towards Serbia to help speed up is EU goals in order to preserve stability in the Balkans but with the current existential crisis in the EU the idea of giving Serbia a free pass is officially dead and many hairs will be found in the soup to make sure Serbia doesn't join the EU for at least a decade.
Is this article a joke? B92 is quoting someone named Luna-cek who contradicts statements made by eu officials. I want to hear what the great Roman statesman, Bickus Dickus, has to say.
(JohnBoy, 28 May 2010 17:50)
I happen to have a very great friend in Rome named Bigus Dickus. He has a wife, you know... Know what she's called?
"Without the good will to have good cooperation with Kosovo, Serbia cannot be a member of the EU because cross-border cooperation is one of the arteries of the European idea. I'm reminding you that Serbia still isn’t even a candidate for membership” said Lunacek, the daily reported
That means a STRAIGH TALK and not messing around in "the name of Serbian nationalism" and "misleading the Serbian people" but "real Serbian patriots".
"Is this article a joke? B92 is quoting someone named Luna-cek who contradicts statements made by eu officials." (JohnBoy)
-- Take a look at her title: European Parliament rapporteur for Kosovo. She's obviously got an agenda to sell. It's an opinion. It's not an official statement.
The UK, France, Germany, Netherlands, Slovenia, Sweden, Hungary, Italy, etc were always not going to approve Serbia's "borders" which apparently include Kosovo. They were always going to block anything Serbia said to have Kosovo in their borders while applying for EU membership. Therefore this is no surprise.
Serbia will have to recognise Kosovo if Serbia wants EU membership. Serbia needs to come to terms with reality if they want EU membership, otherwise they can be left behind in a fairytale dream-world and become economically backwards.
Each time an EU official makes a similar statement, they are merely underlining the fact that the EU does not have a common foreign nor internal policy on Kosovo. This issue will not be resolved by EU diktat nor by Albanian nationalist terrorism. It can only be resolved by the combined will of an entire world of common people who will never accept this violent seizure of sovereign territory nor the accompanying ethnic cleansing of all non-Albanians from Kosovo.
The evil at play here is a defining characteristic of the EU/US globalist agenda and Kosovo will be the stone over which they will trip and fall. Once down, they will never get back up.
The people of America have allowed their ideals to be violated by their own government and have submitted to rule by a monolithic Republican/Democratic ruling clique that might have some differences of opinion domestically, but are in lock-step synchronization on the world stage.
The EU, as a project to extend this clique's rule further around the globe, is demonstrating that the only product of "humanitarian bombing" is "humanitarian imperialism" in Kosovo. This is the modern-day equivalent of what Rudyard Kipling called "The White Man's Burden"...
The Serbs have been tarred pitch-black through a 20-year media demonization campaign paid for by the same corporate masters that control the US government.
The result is that we Serbs are now treated as the "white niggers" of Europe.
Thank goodness for these types of Euro Burocrats, stupid career politicans who only have their own selfish individual interests as stake.
Serbia shouldn't join this disintegrating organization, as the weight of it's debt from France to Italy will undoubtedly bankrupt them all. Any takers on a bet?
Serbia should just suck the marrow from that EU bone until it's depleted, then take the stand...thanks but no thanks...we choose Kosovo.
Maybe Tadić and Hashim Thaçi can mediate in the Kosovo Serbia dispute. It would go like this Kosovo recognize Serbia as independent of Kosovo. Serbia recognize Kosovo as independent of Serbia just like that wallah you both will be in reality and in the EU. Plan 2 Croatia will mediate for Serbia and Slovenia for Kosovo keep it in the family again wallah both in the broke EU so simple.
Is this article a joke? B92 is quoting someone named Luna-cek who contradicts statements made by eu officials. I want to hear what the great Roman statesman, Bickus Dickus, has to say.
The EU is seeing that Serbia is going bancrupt and that the Serbian leaders are more interested in keeping the 'Kosova issue' in the headlines and win votes than help their own economy prosper.
Even if an independent Kosovo is more or less "reality" now, nobody can deny the unsolved problems. And "realities" can always change. I'm more and more sure that in some years there will be a partition of Kosovo, with the north being split off and reunited with Serbia, and the rest being "independent"
"Serbia can't join the EU unless it recognizes Kosovo and achieves cooperation with authorities in Priština, says the European Parliament rapporteur for Kosovo."
-- Yeah, good luck trying to make that into policy.
There's absolutely no need to celebrate or condemn views of Mrs Lunacek. Opinions like hers come and go. Today we hear this, tomorrow something else.
If recent views matter at all we only need to remember what's been told by the big players: the case of Kosovo's independency or its recognition by Serbia isn't a condition on Serbia's way into the EU. It's childish to act the way that we wouldn't know about this.
So all you hot heads on both sides of the big divider, you can waste your words and emotions as much as you please but I would suggest you to find reason and point to your lives elsewhere. Reacting to opinions like Mrs Lunacek's just makes you a Pavlov's dog.
From my point of view means her opinion. And we all know what opinions are compared to....
Serbia will be in EU long before Kosovo will ever have a chance to have serious thoughts about joining.
(American Eagle, 28 May 2010 14:26)
And that is YOUR opinion, for whatever it is worth.
Tomorrow another eurocrat ensures us that you do not, and the charade goes on until €USSR fades away in a neo-liberal total breakdown.
Stop sitting on your hands! €U is an agressor feeding on you (and without the current imposed puppet regime) hostile to serbia. Do something yourselves on your own terms!
I think Kosova should be allowed into the EU immediately, and Serbia should never be allowed to join. The EU needs Kosova's help it in this moment of fiscal and political crisis that is threatening the very fiber of this great union. In other words EU, you can have the Kosova Albanians and good riddance to that headache. Serbia needs no part of this dictatorship masked as a democratic union.
“Serbia cannot join EU without recognizing Kosovo” all world no that u are to late ms and europe i think the Europe does not want Serbs this is Another reason not Kosova
So what does EU plan to do with countries which are already in the EU and have not recognised Kosovo?
Cyprus has said that even if Serbia does recognise Kosovo they will not.
Are these countries going to get kicked out because they need a united stand?
When asked whether it would be possible for Serbia to join the EU without recognizing Kosovo, the EP rapporteur replied that “from my point of view – no, not by any means!”
From my point of view means her opinion. And we all know what opinions are compared to....
Serbia will be in EU long before Kosovo will ever have a chance to have serious thoughts about joining.
Not only is Kosovo illegaly occupied but now this woman wants Serbia to have great cooperation with the albanians who started this mess. I hope the Serbian people finaly realize that the EU is not for us. We don't need anyone to tell us how to run our lives. Serbia and Serbs should also know that many europeans are very dissatisfied with the European Union and some actually want their country to leave the union. Sweden, for example, has lost pretty much all its powers. They have to accept the will of France, the UK and Germany. In a future EU Serbia would have even less say. We would be controled by other countries. Look at what they are doing to us now and imagine what they will do once we are in. We live in the heart of Europe. We don't need to join some hypocrite organization to become what we already are: europeans.
If true then Serbia will not be joining the EU. Nice and simple. I'm happy with that and so are many other fellow citizens. If only the EU was brave enough to admit it officially just to expose this governments flawed policies.
Wow!!!, she is so realstic. I think Serbia should thank her for being so straight forward and open that the Kosovo "Dream" is just an ilusion that will keep Serbia isolated for as long as they keep dreaming about it. Thanks, my resolution to all the posters today
" Be real ".
Someone called Mircea used to predict that Serbia will only join the EU circa 2018. Methinks both the EU and its euro will be consigned to the dustbin of history by then!
In fact, the more one takes an objective look at the EU and its financial troubles, the less and less it now appears to be the shining promised land for the rest of the Balkans. Why should Serbia give up her legal claims for a booby prize?
Not only is Kosovo illegaly occupied but now this woman wants Serbia to have great cooperation with the albanians who started this mess. I hope the Serbian people finaly realize that the EU is not for us. We don't need anyone to tell us how to run our lives. Serbia and Serbs should also know that many europeans are very dissatisfied with the European Union and some actually want their country to leave the union. Sweden, for example, has lost pretty much all its powers. They have to accept the will of France, the UK and Germany. In a future EU Serbia would have even less say. We would be controled by other countries. Look at what they are doing to us now and imagine what they will do once we are in. We live in the heart of Europe. We don't need to join some hypocrite organization to become what we already are: europeans.
So what does EU plan to do with countries which are already in the EU and have not recognised Kosovo?
Cyprus has said that even if Serbia does recognise Kosovo they will not.
Are these countries going to get kicked out because they need a united stand?
If true then Serbia will not be joining the EU. Nice and simple. I'm happy with that and so are many other fellow citizens. If only the EU was brave enough to admit it officially just to expose this governments flawed policies.
Someone called Mircea used to predict that Serbia will only join the EU circa 2018. Methinks both the EU and its euro will be consigned to the dustbin of history by then!
In fact, the more one takes an objective look at the EU and its financial troubles, the less and less it now appears to be the shining promised land for the rest of the Balkans. Why should Serbia give up her legal claims for a booby prize?
Wow!!!, she is so realstic. I think Serbia should thank her for being so straight forward and open that the Kosovo "Dream" is just an ilusion that will keep Serbia isolated for as long as they keep dreaming about it. Thanks, my resolution to all the posters today
" Be real ".
Each time an EU official makes a similar statement, they are merely underlining the fact that the EU does not have a common foreign nor internal policy on Kosovo. This issue will not be resolved by EU diktat nor by Albanian nationalist terrorism. It can only be resolved by the combined will of an entire world of common people who will never accept this violent seizure of sovereign territory nor the accompanying ethnic cleansing of all non-Albanians from Kosovo.
The evil at play here is a defining characteristic of the EU/US globalist agenda and Kosovo will be the stone over which they will trip and fall. Once down, they will never get back up.
The people of America have allowed their ideals to be violated by their own government and have submitted to rule by a monolithic Republican/Democratic ruling clique that might have some differences of opinion domestically, but are in lock-step synchronization on the world stage.
The EU, as a project to extend this clique's rule further around the globe, is demonstrating that the only product of "humanitarian bombing" is "humanitarian imperialism" in Kosovo. This is the modern-day equivalent of what Rudyard Kipling called "The White Man's Burden"...
The Serbs have been tarred pitch-black through a 20-year media demonization campaign paid for by the same corporate masters that control the US government.
The result is that we Serbs are now treated as the "white niggers" of Europe.
I think Kosova should be allowed into the EU immediately, and Serbia should never be allowed to join. The EU needs Kosova's help it in this moment of fiscal and political crisis that is threatening the very fiber of this great union. In other words EU, you can have the Kosova Albanians and good riddance to that headache. Serbia needs no part of this dictatorship masked as a democratic union.
When asked whether it would be possible for Serbia to join the EU without recognizing Kosovo, the EP rapporteur replied that “from my point of view – no, not by any means!”
From my point of view means her opinion. And we all know what opinions are compared to....
Serbia will be in EU long before Kosovo will ever have a chance to have serious thoughts about joining.
"Serbia can't join the EU unless it recognizes Kosovo and achieves cooperation with authorities in Priština, says the European Parliament rapporteur for Kosovo."
-- Yeah, good luck trying to make that into policy.
Thank goodness for these types of Euro Burocrats, stupid career politicans who only have their own selfish individual interests as stake.
Serbia shouldn't join this disintegrating organization, as the weight of it's debt from France to Italy will undoubtedly bankrupt them all. Any takers on a bet?
Serbia should just suck the marrow from that EU bone until it's depleted, then take the stand...thanks but no thanks...we choose Kosovo.
“Serbia cannot join EU without recognizing Kosovo” all world no that u are to late ms and europe i think the Europe does not want Serbs this is Another reason not Kosova
Tomorrow another eurocrat ensures us that you do not, and the charade goes on until €USSR fades away in a neo-liberal total breakdown.
Stop sitting on your hands! €U is an agressor feeding on you (and without the current imposed puppet regime) hostile to serbia. Do something yourselves on your own terms!
Oh miracle, a straight forward European official. Only a naive or moron might assume that 22 countries will neglect the fact that Serbia didn't recognize Kosovo. Serbia has only 2 choices, joining EU and losing Kosovo, or losing both.
From my point of view means her opinion. And we all know what opinions are compared to....
Serbia will be in EU long before Kosovo will ever have a chance to have serious thoughts about joining.
(American Eagle, 28 May 2010 14:26)
And that is YOUR opinion, for whatever it is worth.
Is this article a joke? B92 is quoting someone named Luna-cek who contradicts statements made by eu officials. I want to hear what the great Roman statesman, Bickus Dickus, has to say.
"Is this article a joke? B92 is quoting someone named Luna-cek who contradicts statements made by eu officials." (JohnBoy)
-- Take a look at her title: European Parliament rapporteur for Kosovo. She's obviously got an agenda to sell. It's an opinion. It's not an official statement.
The UK, France, Germany, Netherlands, Slovenia, Sweden, Hungary, Italy, etc were always not going to approve Serbia's "borders" which apparently include Kosovo. They were always going to block anything Serbia said to have Kosovo in their borders while applying for EU membership. Therefore this is no surprise.
Serbia will have to recognise Kosovo if Serbia wants EU membership. Serbia needs to come to terms with reality if they want EU membership, otherwise they can be left behind in a fairytale dream-world and become economically backwards.
Do you have an opinion on an official head of state cancelling a scheduled visit to another country because he can't go to see a convicted war criminal in prison?
Would be nice if your views were actually as balanced as you pretend them to be...
EU will break apart (can't wait) before Serbia get invitiation to join it. They ask Serbia to give away of 12.3% of its territory for joining some artificial union with expiry date (for some 10 yrs is possible to fall apart). No thanks!
As for so called independent KosovA they won't make any condition even for 50 yrs. That's reality! You cannot civilize war criminals in Pristina governement. It's impossible!
Even if an independent Kosovo is more or less "reality" now, nobody can deny the unsolved problems. And "realities" can always change. I'm more and more sure that in some years there will be a partition of Kosovo, with the north being split off and reunited with Serbia, and the rest being "independent"
#Without the good will to have good cooperation with Kosovo, Serbia cannot be a member of the EU because cross-border cooperation is one of the arteries of the European idea. I'm reminding you that Serbia still isn’t even a candidate for membership” said Lunacek, the daily reported
That means a STRAIGHT TALK and not messing around in "the name of Serbian nationalism" and "misleading the Serbian people"... (EA)
i really agree, EA. it is obvious regarding the entering of the EU, but it really goes beyond that. all this trash-talk, threats about "frozen conflict" that we hear here all of the time (ad nauseum), it is such nonsense , such nihilism.
why would you actually keep fighting to maintain "frozen conflict"? (unless you are the govt of n korea or belarus, etc) -- it's just so irrational. and that the world would approve of it? and the intl's have also been guilty of ambiguous and contradictory statements, which has promoted the ultra-nationalist reactions. that, too, is our responsibility.
but some of us, from the get go, have concurred with this EU representative -- there is no real place at the table for serbia until she makes peace with her neighbors. with Kosova, with bosnia, with ALL her neighbors. and there is a whole lot of work between now and that future point.
Of course every freedom-loving Serb will be lining up to thank this latest EU interloper into the internal affairs of Serbia!
If the EU were not dominated by such intellectually under-endowed officials, they might have realized that by first demanding Mladic's head and now the surrender of sacred Kosovo, the EU officials themselves have become the most effective defenders of Serbian sovereignty from EU takeover.
Crushed by decades of sanctions, brainwashed by Western-controlled media (yes, you know who I'm talking about), bribed with visa-free tours of the "civilized" Western-European states that bombed them, enticed by sub-poverty-level salaries as gastarbeiters-at-home-in-Serbia working in the same factories that their own government "privatized" for cents on the euro to absentee German masters, and culturally guided by a subservient clique of OTPOR (resistance-NOT!) collaborators playing pied piper to ignorant youth... Serbia might just have consented (surrendered) to EU membership (occupation).
But, like the Grimm Fairy Tale of the Fisherman and His (greedy) Wife, the overconfident German-led EU has always demanded too much... and just as the Fisherman's wife lost all, so too shall the EU lose all in the Balkans by seeking to become "God" of Kosovo, Serbia's eternal heaven.
Let's all agree to remember how easily predictable the failure of the EU grab for Serbia was as of this date...
Best regards to friend... and foe...
Stop the EU! Freedom for Serbia! Freedom for all Europeans!
There's absolutely no need to celebrate or condemn views of Mrs Lunacek. Opinions like hers come and go. Today we hear this, tomorrow something else.
If recent views matter at all we only need to remember what's been told by the big players: the case of Kosovo's independency or its recognition by Serbia isn't a condition on Serbia's way into the EU. It's childish to act the way that we wouldn't know about this.
So all you hot heads on both sides of the big divider, you can waste your words and emotions as much as you please but I would suggest you to find reason and point to your lives elsewhere. Reacting to opinions like Mrs Lunacek's just makes you a Pavlov's dog.
Is this article a joke? B92 is quoting someone named Luna-cek who contradicts statements made by eu officials. I want to hear what the great Roman statesman, Bickus Dickus, has to say.
(JohnBoy, 28 May 2010 17:50)
I happen to have a very great friend in Rome named Bigus Dickus. He has a wife, you know... Know what she's called?
The EU is seeing that Serbia is going bancrupt and that the Serbian leaders are more interested in keeping the 'Kosova issue' in the headlines and win votes than help their own economy prosper.
From here in the US, it seems to be much more prudent NOT to join the EU and adopt the Euro. Serbia has already gone through the difficulties the rest of Europe is getting ready to face. Stay independent. Keep your own currency.
"Without the good will to have good cooperation with Kosovo, Serbia cannot be a member of the EU because cross-border cooperation is one of the arteries of the European idea. I'm reminding you that Serbia still isn’t even a candidate for membership” said Lunacek, the daily reported
That means a STRAIGH TALK and not messing around in "the name of Serbian nationalism" and "misleading the Serbian people" but "real Serbian patriots".
I have a feeling that Germany has told its EU partners that there will be no new admissions to the EU (except for Croatia) for at least a decade.
Serbia with its economic problems, unsolved Kosovo issue,interference in its neighbor's affairs, and continued refusal to fulfill its obligation of arresting and extraditing war criminals will not join the EU for more then a decade.
Before the Eruo tanked there was a lot of goodwill towards Serbia to help speed up is EU goals in order to preserve stability in the Balkans but with the current existential crisis in the EU the idea of giving Serbia a free pass is officially dead and many hairs will be found in the soup to make sure Serbia doesn't join the EU for at least a decade.
Didn't it say it was the Chairman of the European Parliament who said this?
The European Parliament already passed a motion for all EU countries to recognise Kosovo so the Chairman's view is nothing different. But nobody cares what they have to say because the European Parliament has no power as anything important is decided by the Council.
For all who have not noticed that the EURO is in a free fall. Greece was about to go tits up and was saved by Germany. I am sure other new EU countries are in the red but has hidden it pretty good. Portugal and Spain are next. Serbia in my point of view should steer clear of the EU or it's economy will be in trouble as well. The EU is not as rosy as everyone thinks. If you notice England and some other Europeon countries are on the side lines and now everyone sees why.
FAO: Ulrike Lunacek
An Unreal Lunatic wouldn't utter the nonsense you have spewed out in this interview.
You obviously still have a chip on your shoulder about the events of 1914 & 1939.
Austria won't escape the exposure of her governments' sordid antics and corrupt capers throughout the last 2 decades in the Balkans.
She will also end up having to make amends for stirring up the anti-Serb psychosis which was spread throughout Europe and the World during the Balkan crises.
Shame on you!
This lady's opinion is frankly worthless. She can enjoy drinks with Doris Pack on Place Luxembourg (next to the EP) and slag off the serbs as much as she likes but it makes no difference.
1: The decision will be made in Paris, London & Berlin.
2: Germany may well be weary of letting more countries in but despite their historical serbo-phobia, like the mafia and other organized crime groups, they'll look at the business case - i.e. is the serbian economy solid. It is and it is also a significant market. The german economy has been driven by exports for decades. Oh, and before anyone moans about serbia's economy, just look at its neighboring basket cases.
3: No Serbia, no Stability Pact. Brussels can flush its balkans policy down the toilet and wash away its only allies in Belgrade, Tadic and co.
4: Even if does not join the EU, it still has 8 million people, it is still the shortest route between asia and the rest of europe and finally destabilizing Serbia destabilizes the region. Even the dying Nato is desperate to have Serbia in. Go figure.
as an EU citizen I'm thinking: let's see how many years or decades it's going to take until Serbia will be able to contribute something countable or valueable to Europe in return to EU tax payer's money :)
(joga, 29 May 2010 23:22)
If he's saying that about Serbia at least it means there's absolutely no chance of joga welcoming Albania to the EU.
Good cop, bad cop. Gee this is an old one. If Serbia really wants to join this bankrupt EU then tell them sign the SAA before the end of this year or you can keep your EU and watch the EU officials scramble like rats in panic.
This would make one the funniest TV soap operas. They are threatening Serbia with nothing, ha, ha, ha! Keep up the comedy boys!
No compromise on Kosovo, no Haris Silajdjic in Belgrade and no compromise on borders with Croatia, but EU keep up the good work you’re funnier than the US.
Maybe you live for yourself in western comfort ser,but serbians that live in serbia dont agree with you,they might want the EU.
(delon)
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Have you been to Belgrade? Try telling the Serbs what you think they want.
In order to achieve the goal, endless questioning of (Kosovo's) independence is not helpful by any means. I don’t see that the wish of the Serbian government to reintegrate Kosovo is realistic,” Lunacek was further quoted as saying.
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The Serbian people dont see how an independant Kosovo is realistc.
Maybe Tadić and Hashim Thaçi can mediate in the Kosovo Serbia dispute. It would go like this Kosovo recognize Serbia as independent of Kosovo. Serbia recognize Kosovo as independent of Serbia just like that wallah you both will be in reality and in the EU. Plan 2 Croatia will mediate for Serbia and Slovenia for Kosovo keep it in the family again wallah both in the broke EU so simple.
there is and never was any shred of doubt that serbia can only ever enter the EU by recognizing kosovo.
so long as serbia continues with the delusion that it has any claim over kosovo... Its OWN stance admits that it has zero authority and control over a massive portion of what it views as its territory ..it simply does NOT qualify for EU membership.
it simply defies all logic than serbs continue to delude themselves to the possibility.
as an EU citizen I'm thinking: let's see how many years or decades it's going to take until Serbia will be able to contribute something countable or valueable to Europe in return to EU tax payer's money :)
“In order to achieve the goal, endless questioning of (Kosovo's) independence is not helpful by any means. I don’t see that the wish of the Serbian government to reintegrate Kosovo is realistic,”
It is as simple as that. Serbia is facing a dilemma. Is it willing to enter the EU and is it able to reintegrate Kosovo, a task it failed to achieve after 1981 using all the military means it had on it disposal and while the world was looking elsewhere. If Serbia wants to exact some ‘price” for giving its consent to let Kosovo go, the time when it could get some meaningful concessions is gone while the price Serbia is paying for its refusal is growing. What is the Serbian strategy, one wonders?
Wow!!!, she is so realstic. I think Serbia should thank her for being so straight forward and open that the Kosovo "Dream" is just an ilusion that will keep Serbia isolated for as long as they keep dreaming about it. Thanks, my resolution to all the posters today
" Be real ".
I think Kosova should be allowed into the EU immediately, and Serbia should never be allowed to join. The EU needs Kosova's help it in this moment of fiscal and political crisis that is threatening the very fiber of this great union. In other words EU, you can have the Kosova Albanians and good riddance to that headache. Serbia needs no part of this dictatorship masked as a democratic union.
Someone called Mircea used to predict that Serbia will only join the EU circa 2018. Methinks both the EU and its euro will be consigned to the dustbin of history by then!
In fact, the more one takes an objective look at the EU and its financial troubles, the less and less it now appears to be the shining promised land for the rest of the Balkans. Why should Serbia give up her legal claims for a booby prize?
Not only is Kosovo illegaly occupied but now this woman wants Serbia to have great cooperation with the albanians who started this mess. I hope the Serbian people finaly realize that the EU is not for us. We don't need anyone to tell us how to run our lives. Serbia and Serbs should also know that many europeans are very dissatisfied with the European Union and some actually want their country to leave the union. Sweden, for example, has lost pretty much all its powers. They have to accept the will of France, the UK and Germany. In a future EU Serbia would have even less say. We would be controled by other countries. Look at what they are doing to us now and imagine what they will do once we are in. We live in the heart of Europe. We don't need to join some hypocrite organization to become what we already are: europeans.
“Serbia cannot join EU without recognizing Kosovo” all world no that u are to late ms and europe i think the Europe does not want Serbs this is Another reason not Kosova
The UK, France, Germany, Netherlands, Slovenia, Sweden, Hungary, Italy, etc were always not going to approve Serbia's "borders" which apparently include Kosovo. They were always going to block anything Serbia said to have Kosovo in their borders while applying for EU membership. Therefore this is no surprise.
Serbia will have to recognise Kosovo if Serbia wants EU membership. Serbia needs to come to terms with reality if they want EU membership, otherwise they can be left behind in a fairytale dream-world and become economically backwards.
If true then Serbia will not be joining the EU. Nice and simple. I'm happy with that and so are many other fellow citizens. If only the EU was brave enough to admit it officially just to expose this governments flawed policies.
So what does EU plan to do with countries which are already in the EU and have not recognised Kosovo?
Cyprus has said that even if Serbia does recognise Kosovo they will not.
Are these countries going to get kicked out because they need a united stand?
When asked whether it would be possible for Serbia to join the EU without recognizing Kosovo, the EP rapporteur replied that “from my point of view – no, not by any means!”
From my point of view means her opinion. And we all know what opinions are compared to....
Serbia will be in EU long before Kosovo will ever have a chance to have serious thoughts about joining.
Maybe Tadić and Hashim Thaçi can mediate in the Kosovo Serbia dispute. It would go like this Kosovo recognize Serbia as independent of Kosovo. Serbia recognize Kosovo as independent of Serbia just like that wallah you both will be in reality and in the EU. Plan 2 Croatia will mediate for Serbia and Slovenia for Kosovo keep it in the family again wallah both in the broke EU so simple.
Each time an EU official makes a similar statement, they are merely underlining the fact that the EU does not have a common foreign nor internal policy on Kosovo. This issue will not be resolved by EU diktat nor by Albanian nationalist terrorism. It can only be resolved by the combined will of an entire world of common people who will never accept this violent seizure of sovereign territory nor the accompanying ethnic cleansing of all non-Albanians from Kosovo.
The evil at play here is a defining characteristic of the EU/US globalist agenda and Kosovo will be the stone over which they will trip and fall. Once down, they will never get back up.
The people of America have allowed their ideals to be violated by their own government and have submitted to rule by a monolithic Republican/Democratic ruling clique that might have some differences of opinion domestically, but are in lock-step synchronization on the world stage.
The EU, as a project to extend this clique's rule further around the globe, is demonstrating that the only product of "humanitarian bombing" is "humanitarian imperialism" in Kosovo. This is the modern-day equivalent of what Rudyard Kipling called "The White Man's Burden"...
The Serbs have been tarred pitch-black through a 20-year media demonization campaign paid for by the same corporate masters that control the US government.
The result is that we Serbs are now treated as the "white niggers" of Europe.
From my point of view means her opinion. And we all know what opinions are compared to....
Serbia will be in EU long before Kosovo will ever have a chance to have serious thoughts about joining.
(American Eagle, 28 May 2010 14:26)
And that is YOUR opinion, for whatever it is worth.
#Without the good will to have good cooperation with Kosovo, Serbia cannot be a member of the EU because cross-border cooperation is one of the arteries of the European idea. I'm reminding you that Serbia still isn’t even a candidate for membership” said Lunacek, the daily reported
That means a STRAIGHT TALK and not messing around in "the name of Serbian nationalism" and "misleading the Serbian people"... (EA)
i really agree, EA. it is obvious regarding the entering of the EU, but it really goes beyond that. all this trash-talk, threats about "frozen conflict" that we hear here all of the time (ad nauseum), it is such nonsense , such nihilism.
why would you actually keep fighting to maintain "frozen conflict"? (unless you are the govt of n korea or belarus, etc) -- it's just so irrational. and that the world would approve of it? and the intl's have also been guilty of ambiguous and contradictory statements, which has promoted the ultra-nationalist reactions. that, too, is our responsibility.
but some of us, from the get go, have concurred with this EU representative -- there is no real place at the table for serbia until she makes peace with her neighbors. with Kosova, with bosnia, with ALL her neighbors. and there is a whole lot of work between now and that future point.
The EU is seeing that Serbia is going bancrupt and that the Serbian leaders are more interested in keeping the 'Kosova issue' in the headlines and win votes than help their own economy prosper.
"Serbia can't join the EU unless it recognizes Kosovo and achieves cooperation with authorities in Priština, says the European Parliament rapporteur for Kosovo."
-- Yeah, good luck trying to make that into policy.
Even if an independent Kosovo is more or less "reality" now, nobody can deny the unsolved problems. And "realities" can always change. I'm more and more sure that in some years there will be a partition of Kosovo, with the north being split off and reunited with Serbia, and the rest being "independent"
"Is this article a joke? B92 is quoting someone named Luna-cek who contradicts statements made by eu officials." (JohnBoy)
-- Take a look at her title: European Parliament rapporteur for Kosovo. She's obviously got an agenda to sell. It's an opinion. It's not an official statement.
Oh miracle, a straight forward European official. Only a naive or moron might assume that 22 countries will neglect the fact that Serbia didn't recognize Kosovo. Serbia has only 2 choices, joining EU and losing Kosovo, or losing both.
"Without the good will to have good cooperation with Kosovo, Serbia cannot be a member of the EU because cross-border cooperation is one of the arteries of the European idea. I'm reminding you that Serbia still isn’t even a candidate for membership” said Lunacek, the daily reported
That means a STRAIGH TALK and not messing around in "the name of Serbian nationalism" and "misleading the Serbian people" but "real Serbian patriots".
there is and never was any shred of doubt that serbia can only ever enter the EU by recognizing kosovo.
so long as serbia continues with the delusion that it has any claim over kosovo... Its OWN stance admits that it has zero authority and control over a massive portion of what it views as its territory ..it simply does NOT qualify for EU membership.
it simply defies all logic than serbs continue to delude themselves to the possibility.
Thank goodness for these types of Euro Burocrats, stupid career politicans who only have their own selfish individual interests as stake.
Serbia shouldn't join this disintegrating organization, as the weight of it's debt from France to Italy will undoubtedly bankrupt them all. Any takers on a bet?
Serbia should just suck the marrow from that EU bone until it's depleted, then take the stand...thanks but no thanks...we choose Kosovo.
as an EU citizen I'm thinking: let's see how many years or decades it's going to take until Serbia will be able to contribute something countable or valueable to Europe in return to EU tax payer's money :)
There's absolutely no need to celebrate or condemn views of Mrs Lunacek. Opinions like hers come and go. Today we hear this, tomorrow something else.
If recent views matter at all we only need to remember what's been told by the big players: the case of Kosovo's independency or its recognition by Serbia isn't a condition on Serbia's way into the EU. It's childish to act the way that we wouldn't know about this.
So all you hot heads on both sides of the big divider, you can waste your words and emotions as much as you please but I would suggest you to find reason and point to your lives elsewhere. Reacting to opinions like Mrs Lunacek's just makes you a Pavlov's dog.
Is this article a joke? B92 is quoting someone named Luna-cek who contradicts statements made by eu officials. I want to hear what the great Roman statesman, Bickus Dickus, has to say.
Tomorrow another eurocrat ensures us that you do not, and the charade goes on until €USSR fades away in a neo-liberal total breakdown.
Stop sitting on your hands! €U is an agressor feeding on you (and without the current imposed puppet regime) hostile to serbia. Do something yourselves on your own terms!
From here in the US, it seems to be much more prudent NOT to join the EU and adopt the Euro. Serbia has already gone through the difficulties the rest of Europe is getting ready to face. Stay independent. Keep your own currency.
Is this article a joke? B92 is quoting someone named Luna-cek who contradicts statements made by eu officials. I want to hear what the great Roman statesman, Bickus Dickus, has to say.
(JohnBoy, 28 May 2010 17:50)
I happen to have a very great friend in Rome named Bigus Dickus. He has a wife, you know... Know what she's called?
FAO: Ulrike Lunacek
An Unreal Lunatic wouldn't utter the nonsense you have spewed out in this interview.
You obviously still have a chip on your shoulder about the events of 1914 & 1939.
Austria won't escape the exposure of her governments' sordid antics and corrupt capers throughout the last 2 decades in the Balkans.
She will also end up having to make amends for stirring up the anti-Serb psychosis which was spread throughout Europe and the World during the Balkan crises.
Shame on you!
Of course every freedom-loving Serb will be lining up to thank this latest EU interloper into the internal affairs of Serbia!
If the EU were not dominated by such intellectually under-endowed officials, they might have realized that by first demanding Mladic's head and now the surrender of sacred Kosovo, the EU officials themselves have become the most effective defenders of Serbian sovereignty from EU takeover.
Crushed by decades of sanctions, brainwashed by Western-controlled media (yes, you know who I'm talking about), bribed with visa-free tours of the "civilized" Western-European states that bombed them, enticed by sub-poverty-level salaries as gastarbeiters-at-home-in-Serbia working in the same factories that their own government "privatized" for cents on the euro to absentee German masters, and culturally guided by a subservient clique of OTPOR (resistance-NOT!) collaborators playing pied piper to ignorant youth... Serbia might just have consented (surrendered) to EU membership (occupation).
But, like the Grimm Fairy Tale of the Fisherman and His (greedy) Wife, the overconfident German-led EU has always demanded too much... and just as the Fisherman's wife lost all, so too shall the EU lose all in the Balkans by seeking to become "God" of Kosovo, Serbia's eternal heaven.
Let's all agree to remember how easily predictable the failure of the EU grab for Serbia was as of this date...
Best regards to friend... and foe...
Stop the EU! Freedom for Serbia! Freedom for all Europeans!
EU will break apart (can't wait) before Serbia get invitiation to join it. They ask Serbia to give away of 12.3% of its territory for joining some artificial union with expiry date (for some 10 yrs is possible to fall apart). No thanks!
As for so called independent KosovA they won't make any condition even for 50 yrs. That's reality! You cannot civilize war criminals in Pristina governement. It's impossible!
I have a feeling that Germany has told its EU partners that there will be no new admissions to the EU (except for Croatia) for at least a decade.
Serbia with its economic problems, unsolved Kosovo issue,interference in its neighbor's affairs, and continued refusal to fulfill its obligation of arresting and extraditing war criminals will not join the EU for more then a decade.
Before the Eruo tanked there was a lot of goodwill towards Serbia to help speed up is EU goals in order to preserve stability in the Balkans but with the current existential crisis in the EU the idea of giving Serbia a free pass is officially dead and many hairs will be found in the soup to make sure Serbia doesn't join the EU for at least a decade.
“In order to achieve the goal, endless questioning of (Kosovo's) independence is not helpful by any means. I don’t see that the wish of the Serbian government to reintegrate Kosovo is realistic,”
It is as simple as that. Serbia is facing a dilemma. Is it willing to enter the EU and is it able to reintegrate Kosovo, a task it failed to achieve after 1981 using all the military means it had on it disposal and while the world was looking elsewhere. If Serbia wants to exact some ‘price” for giving its consent to let Kosovo go, the time when it could get some meaningful concessions is gone while the price Serbia is paying for its refusal is growing. What is the Serbian strategy, one wonders?
This lady's opinion is frankly worthless. She can enjoy drinks with Doris Pack on Place Luxembourg (next to the EP) and slag off the serbs as much as she likes but it makes no difference.
1: The decision will be made in Paris, London & Berlin.
2: Germany may well be weary of letting more countries in but despite their historical serbo-phobia, like the mafia and other organized crime groups, they'll look at the business case - i.e. is the serbian economy solid. It is and it is also a significant market. The german economy has been driven by exports for decades. Oh, and before anyone moans about serbia's economy, just look at its neighboring basket cases.
3: No Serbia, no Stability Pact. Brussels can flush its balkans policy down the toilet and wash away its only allies in Belgrade, Tadic and co.
4: Even if does not join the EU, it still has 8 million people, it is still the shortest route between asia and the rest of europe and finally destabilizing Serbia destabilizes the region. Even the dying Nato is desperate to have Serbia in. Go figure.
Do you have an opinion on an official head of state cancelling a scheduled visit to another country because he can't go to see a convicted war criminal in prison?
Would be nice if your views were actually as balanced as you pretend them to be...
For all who have not noticed that the EURO is in a free fall. Greece was about to go tits up and was saved by Germany. I am sure other new EU countries are in the red but has hidden it pretty good. Portugal and Spain are next. Serbia in my point of view should steer clear of the EU or it's economy will be in trouble as well. The EU is not as rosy as everyone thinks. If you notice England and some other Europeon countries are on the side lines and now everyone sees why.
as an EU citizen I'm thinking: let's see how many years or decades it's going to take until Serbia will be able to contribute something countable or valueable to Europe in return to EU tax payer's money :)
(joga, 29 May 2010 23:22)
If he's saying that about Serbia at least it means there's absolutely no chance of joga welcoming Albania to the EU.
Good cop, bad cop. Gee this is an old one. If Serbia really wants to join this bankrupt EU then tell them sign the SAA before the end of this year or you can keep your EU and watch the EU officials scramble like rats in panic.
This would make one the funniest TV soap operas. They are threatening Serbia with nothing, ha, ha, ha! Keep up the comedy boys!
No compromise on Kosovo, no Haris Silajdjic in Belgrade and no compromise on borders with Croatia, but EU keep up the good work you’re funnier than the US.
Didn't it say it was the Chairman of the European Parliament who said this?
The European Parliament already passed a motion for all EU countries to recognise Kosovo so the Chairman's view is nothing different. But nobody cares what they have to say because the European Parliament has no power as anything important is decided by the Council.
In order to achieve the goal, endless questioning of (Kosovo's) independence is not helpful by any means. I don’t see that the wish of the Serbian government to reintegrate Kosovo is realistic,” Lunacek was further quoted as saying.
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The Serbian people dont see how an independant Kosovo is realistc.
Maybe you live for yourself in western comfort ser,but serbians that live in serbia dont agree with you,they might want the EU.
(delon)
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Have you been to Belgrade? Try telling the Serbs what you think they want.
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