"Prishtina may be full of KLA politicians and Beograd is full of Milosevics and his cronies. "
(RKS, 23 May 2010 00:49)
Not only. In Serbia, there are some democratical political parties, and not only Radicals, DSS and SPS and parties like that who still have a lot of Milosevic-era (and minded) leaders.
I'm an American born in the US and not of Balkan origin. I was born with my citizenship as were my parents, grandparents and so-on. I'm not a refuge, like I assume you are, who came to the US and became a citizen. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean you should try to call me Serbian. Part of your citizenship criteria should have been about free speech respect for differing opinions.
What would you do if you have to choose between Thaci, Haradinaj and Kurti? Kind of a choice between the devil and deep blue sea!
(Top, 22 May 2010 20:42)
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Get real and recognise Serbia as my country and then be led by credible politicians. That's what I would do.
as to thaci: here and elsewhere i get the feeling that more and more of my kosovar albanian frnds and colleagues have had enough of him and his questionable ways. he may have made sense from a post-war POV, but the time has come for some new, post-war leadership. a tad less corrupt and with the ability to move into the future.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
You are right, a "tad less" antisemitic Führer than Hitler would be terrific for Germany. Not much, just a "tad less".
But I am glad, after years of defending that criminal you admit what Serbs are saying about him - in some peculiar way but "На безрыбие и рак рыба", better than still defending what is impossible to defend.
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that is not an attack on thaci and co. but sometimes change is a good thing and enough is enough.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
Are you afraid of him or what? Yep, he is a very intimidating personality. Would become an excellent inmate, I would give him either straight 40 (years) or 3 (meters of rope). Rope is cheaper and can be re-used, there is still Haradinaj and Çeku around...
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of course i understand why my kosovar colleagues do not wish to show too much disunity here, given all of the ubiquitous attacks and hate disguised as humor, or news. umph.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
As far as I recall, B92 is based in Belgrade. Who is attacking whom? I did not see a single Serbian attack on Koha Ditore.
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as for the icj ruling, as i have said from the beginning, that will never rule in favor of serbia
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
Court is a court. The verdict can be predicted like the result of tossing a coin. Everyone remembers OJ. All I can do is just to cross my fingers: may that "never rule in favor of serbia" phrase hunt you for years coming, LOL. You betting on a horse race where everything is rigged, all horses included. I am sure, Serbs know that and are preparing for either outcome.
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let them eat nationalism, a la marie antoinette (or so they said.)
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
This does not make any sense, neither factual nor historic. Mind you, Marie Antoinette was Austrian and not French and that nationalism wasn't "invented" by nobility?
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once the icj case is over, we should be able to make progress but there is no certainty thereof.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
You know... if "pro" is positive and "con" is negative... What is the opposite of "PROGRESS"? You got it: "CONGRESS".
That tells all.
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and i will remind, once again, that the blgd regime continues to shelter mass murderer mladic,
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
If you have the evidence, don't hide it, c'mon, bring it on!!! But first, finally, contact Ewa and push her employer to re-locate her to Raska. Once you do it - let's go and let's arrest Mladic in Belgrade.
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and that this last mass grave of albanian civilians, murdered and kidnapped by serb army forces, continues to remain, cemented over and covered up inside serbia. nothing. how long will it take to dole out the bodies... absolutely frightening and ghoulish. we must never accept that!
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
Wow, you already know everything... Not even EULEX does know. Unfortunately things aren't that easy. EULEX needs forensic experts. Forensic experts have a tight schedule. They are trained decades to do their job, not many specialists are around. Besides, few weeks - and summer is here, traditionally no politics in summer. You can push EULEX, prosecutors and NGO-s in both BG and PR, even the company Ewa is working with. You know where they will send you... Far-far away.
"how the K-Albanians elect officials to lead them when the politicians there seem so clueless on how the world really works. "
(American Eagle, 22 May 2010 13:18)
Unfortunately, the people in Kosovo have no real alternatives: There are almost no honourable politicians, most of them are ex-KLA fighters, and they think that's something which is qualifying them for leading a state. Funny, somehow.
What would you do if you have to choose between Thaci, Haradinaj and Kurti? Kind of a choice between the devil and deep blue sea!
good morning/ evening. there are two points here being conflated, well, at least 2. one concerns thaci and the other the outcome of the icj case. they really need to be separated.
as to thaci: here and elsewhere i get the feeling that more and more of my kosovar albanian frnds and colleagues have had enough of him and his questionable ways. he may have made sense from a post-war POV, but the time has come for some new, post-war leadership. a tad less corrupt and with the ability to move into the future.
that is not an attack on thaci and co. but sometimes change is a good thing and enough is enough.
of course i understand why my kosovar colleagues do not wish to show too much disunity here, given all of the ubiquitous attacks and hate disguised as humor, or news. umph.
as for the icj ruling, as i have said from the beginning, that will never rule in favor of serbia, the colonialist power. NEVER. you believe that it will due to an overload of home-spun propaganda and at great risk to your own objectivity, so to speak, and credibility.
as to all the money that tadic and co are pouring into that goal, that is a terrible shame and waste, and i would say crime ag. the common people of serbia, and the balkans. but who, here, cares about the people? let them eat nationalism, a la marie antoinette (or so they said.)
once the icj case is over, we should be able to make progress but there is no certainty thereof.
and i will remind, once again, that the blgd regime continues to shelter mass murderer mladic, and that this last mass grave of albanian civilians, murdered and kidnapped by serb army forces, continues to remain, cemented over and covered up inside serbia. nothing. how long will it take to dole out the bodies... absolutely frightening and ghoulish. we must never accept that!
Before I focus on this particular lie, let's review some of the other odd lies of Hachim "Hash" Thaci:
1. 100 recognitions for Kosovo in the first 48 - 72 hours.
2. Russia's recognition of Kosovo.
3. China's recognition of Kosovo.
4. Pristina's plans to "integrate" the north being supported by international powers
5. K Serbs as Kosovo's most privileged minority
And now:
6. ICJ ruling in Pristina's favor (unless he think's "in Pristina's favor" means not reattaching the entire region back to Serbia Proper).
I think this man does more harm than good every time he opens his mouth. Considering that almost all parties in Europe are gearing up for a return to the negotiating table once the ICJ comes down the middle between Belgrade and Pristina, forcing both sides to make concessions and pretty much cantonize the region, I really have to wonder what some people see in Thaci's leadership, much less his common sense. If I were a K Albanian, I'd be embarrased to have him as my Prime Minister.
But then again, perhaps I should really be one of his strongest supporters. God forbid Kosovo actually gets an intelligent leader that might actually steer the region towards full legitimate sovereignty. People like Thaci are our best friends.
how the K-Albanians elect officials to lead them when the politicians there seem so clueless on how the world really works.
(American Eagle, 22 May 2010 13:18)
Go no further than your own polticians in Belgrade. They have been lying to you day in , day out.
High duke is correct, money will run out as NATO is streached further and further across it's numerous conflicts which show no signs of ending. Priority will be given to the most lucrative areas and ones which have the potential of being ruled. This will prove difficult in the Balkans as Russia is in close proximity and with Serbia's growing influence in the region will be very difficult to maintain a hegemony there even if NATO members are nearby.
A negotiation will take place soon where Albanians will be faced with a reality, they cannot do what they want, they must obey laws, if they wish for Serb war criminals to be jailed then they will also have to jail theirs.
The problem here is that the situation on the ground is difficult; Serbs will not be reaccepted into Albanian society and repopulation cannot occur as it is too dangerous. A massive change in power will be required whereupon Serbia will be able to guarantee the safety of it's Serbs in KiM and of the Albanians from the radical elements which wish to create a monoethnic state. Of course if this is not possible we will see force used against them which will be the only course of action as Albanians have shown reasoning is not an option.
If we were to believe Hash, KiM would be a UN member, NATO member, EU candidate etc... Politicians of this illegally recognized protectorate need to put on a happy face bc their military sponsors are pulling out while Serbia is rebuilding its army, completed its largest military base near KiM and is already the region's top weapons exporter, while Russia will inevitably establish its military presence with the S. Stream passing through Nis. Hash & co. will rot in a Serbian jail soon.
So what are the consequences of a favourable ICJ decision towards the authors of the UDI?
The question is very narrow and basically just asks whether the declaration was legal. This does not mean anyone has to recognise "Kosova" and enough powerful countries have already made a decision regardless - thus ensuring independence is blocked, so it will never become a legitimate country unless Serbia says so.
"Kosova" may get a few more recognitions but that's about it. We still remain in the status quo.
On the other side, we will see many separists movements around the world pushing for similar recognition, including RS. The reputation of Tadic and his sell-outs will be severely damaged while giving more power to the opposition, who will have a much harder line towards the province.
I don't think an ICJ decision in "Kosova's" favour will help it. It just cements the status quo and has the potential to cause further destabilisation.
Someone please explain to me how a favourable result for "Kosova" changes anything?
Thaci also promised 100 recognitions by the end of 2008. He also ignores the fact that Russia and China will block UN membership as the five EU countries that don't recognize Kosovo will block EU memberships. I don't understand how the K-Albanians elect officials to lead them when the politicians there seem so clueless on how the world really works.
There never was a country of Kosovo, and there is no need for one now.
If the US drops a few bombs and sets up new territories, that is aggressive invasion of another's territory and needs to be illegal.
Whatever the excuse, that is not something that can be allowed to stand in international law.
1244 (in itself a questionable ruling because it was signed up for under duress) is (none-the-less) accepted by the UN and by Serbia. It is very clearly in the spirit and wording of 1244 that autonomy should be given to the region within the territory of Serbia.
The US very deliberately and cynically intended breaking the terms of that signing even as they put pen to paper. If the ICJ goes against the territorial integrity of 1244 then all UN law becomes meaningless.
Their justification for stealing land from Serbia is that Milosevic was a baddy who needed to be punished. He has gone now and that bigotry against Serbia has to stop. It wasn't just the surrounding countries that were freed of Milosevic and his poor politics - Serbia that was freed from him too.
The ethnic cleansing done against Serbs by Albanians predates Milosevic and affected many innocent Serbian people. The ICJ should make it clear that the mono-ethnic ambition of Albanians in Kosovo is an established fact and should not be rewarded. The very term 'ethnic cleansing' was first used to describe their behaviour in trying to drive Serbs out of Kosovo. The racist basis of the Albanian effort to acquire land from a neighbouring territory is not something that can be accepted as being legal. The precedent is alarming.
I bet however that they will fudge and go along with the US.
The legal solution still has to be 1244 and substantial autonomy. In the absence of that, Kosovo will (in practice) continue to be an international protectorate dependent on foreign support to maintain its flimsy existence.
Amid all the new attention and investigations around his so called leadership does Thaci really see himself being around too much longer. One word "liability".
I honestly think that this man is a poorly educated fool, Serbia would not have invested the vast money and time it has done if it were not almost certain it would win.
Negotiations will begin with Albanians about the southern province as the reality that the US hegemony will not protect them forever and it will be in their interests to reach a compramise with their neighbors.
Thaci also promised 100 recognitions by the end of 2008. He also ignores the fact that Russia and China will block UN membership as the five EU countries that don't recognize Kosovo will block EU memberships. I don't understand how the K-Albanians elect officials to lead them when the politicians there seem so clueless on how the world really works.
I honestly think that this man is a poorly educated fool, Serbia would not have invested the vast money and time it has done if it were not almost certain it would win.
Negotiations will begin with Albanians about the southern province as the reality that the US hegemony will not protect them forever and it will be in their interests to reach a compramise with their neighbors.
Amid all the new attention and investigations around his so called leadership does Thaci really see himself being around too much longer. One word "liability".
If we were to believe Hash, KiM would be a UN member, NATO member, EU candidate etc... Politicians of this illegally recognized protectorate need to put on a happy face bc their military sponsors are pulling out while Serbia is rebuilding its army, completed its largest military base near KiM and is already the region's top weapons exporter, while Russia will inevitably establish its military presence with the S. Stream passing through Nis. Hash & co. will rot in a Serbian jail soon.
There never was a country of Kosovo, and there is no need for one now.
If the US drops a few bombs and sets up new territories, that is aggressive invasion of another's territory and needs to be illegal.
Whatever the excuse, that is not something that can be allowed to stand in international law.
1244 (in itself a questionable ruling because it was signed up for under duress) is (none-the-less) accepted by the UN and by Serbia. It is very clearly in the spirit and wording of 1244 that autonomy should be given to the region within the territory of Serbia.
The US very deliberately and cynically intended breaking the terms of that signing even as they put pen to paper. If the ICJ goes against the territorial integrity of 1244 then all UN law becomes meaningless.
Their justification for stealing land from Serbia is that Milosevic was a baddy who needed to be punished. He has gone now and that bigotry against Serbia has to stop. It wasn't just the surrounding countries that were freed of Milosevic and his poor politics - Serbia that was freed from him too.
The ethnic cleansing done against Serbs by Albanians predates Milosevic and affected many innocent Serbian people. The ICJ should make it clear that the mono-ethnic ambition of Albanians in Kosovo is an established fact and should not be rewarded. The very term 'ethnic cleansing' was first used to describe their behaviour in trying to drive Serbs out of Kosovo. The racist basis of the Albanian effort to acquire land from a neighbouring territory is not something that can be accepted as being legal. The precedent is alarming.
I bet however that they will fudge and go along with the US.
The legal solution still has to be 1244 and substantial autonomy. In the absence of that, Kosovo will (in practice) continue to be an international protectorate dependent on foreign support to maintain its flimsy existence.
So what are the consequences of a favourable ICJ decision towards the authors of the UDI?
The question is very narrow and basically just asks whether the declaration was legal. This does not mean anyone has to recognise "Kosova" and enough powerful countries have already made a decision regardless - thus ensuring independence is blocked, so it will never become a legitimate country unless Serbia says so.
"Kosova" may get a few more recognitions but that's about it. We still remain in the status quo.
On the other side, we will see many separists movements around the world pushing for similar recognition, including RS. The reputation of Tadic and his sell-outs will be severely damaged while giving more power to the opposition, who will have a much harder line towards the province.
I don't think an ICJ decision in "Kosova's" favour will help it. It just cements the status quo and has the potential to cause further destabilisation.
Someone please explain to me how a favourable result for "Kosova" changes anything?
Before I focus on this particular lie, let's review some of the other odd lies of Hachim "Hash" Thaci:
1. 100 recognitions for Kosovo in the first 48 - 72 hours.
2. Russia's recognition of Kosovo.
3. China's recognition of Kosovo.
4. Pristina's plans to "integrate" the north being supported by international powers
5. K Serbs as Kosovo's most privileged minority
And now:
6. ICJ ruling in Pristina's favor (unless he think's "in Pristina's favor" means not reattaching the entire region back to Serbia Proper).
I think this man does more harm than good every time he opens his mouth. Considering that almost all parties in Europe are gearing up for a return to the negotiating table once the ICJ comes down the middle between Belgrade and Pristina, forcing both sides to make concessions and pretty much cantonize the region, I really have to wonder what some people see in Thaci's leadership, much less his common sense. If I were a K Albanian, I'd be embarrased to have him as my Prime Minister.
But then again, perhaps I should really be one of his strongest supporters. God forbid Kosovo actually gets an intelligent leader that might actually steer the region towards full legitimate sovereignty. People like Thaci are our best friends.
High duke is correct, money will run out as NATO is streached further and further across it's numerous conflicts which show no signs of ending. Priority will be given to the most lucrative areas and ones which have the potential of being ruled. This will prove difficult in the Balkans as Russia is in close proximity and with Serbia's growing influence in the region will be very difficult to maintain a hegemony there even if NATO members are nearby.
A negotiation will take place soon where Albanians will be faced with a reality, they cannot do what they want, they must obey laws, if they wish for Serb war criminals to be jailed then they will also have to jail theirs.
The problem here is that the situation on the ground is difficult; Serbs will not be reaccepted into Albanian society and repopulation cannot occur as it is too dangerous. A massive change in power will be required whereupon Serbia will be able to guarantee the safety of it's Serbs in KiM and of the Albanians from the radical elements which wish to create a monoethnic state. Of course if this is not possible we will see force used against them which will be the only course of action as Albanians have shown reasoning is not an option.
I'm an American born in the US and not of Balkan origin. I was born with my citizenship as were my parents, grandparents and so-on. I'm not a refuge, like I assume you are, who came to the US and became a citizen. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean you should try to call me Serbian. Part of your citizenship criteria should have been about free speech respect for differing opinions.
"how the K-Albanians elect officials to lead them when the politicians there seem so clueless on how the world really works. "
(American Eagle, 22 May 2010 13:18)
Unfortunately, the people in Kosovo have no real alternatives: There are almost no honourable politicians, most of them are ex-KLA fighters, and they think that's something which is qualifying them for leading a state. Funny, somehow.
What would you do if you have to choose between Thaci, Haradinaj and Kurti? Kind of a choice between the devil and deep blue sea!
how the K-Albanians elect officials to lead them when the politicians there seem so clueless on how the world really works.
(American Eagle, 22 May 2010 13:18)
Go no further than your own polticians in Belgrade. They have been lying to you day in , day out.
good morning/ evening. there are two points here being conflated, well, at least 2. one concerns thaci and the other the outcome of the icj case. they really need to be separated.
as to thaci: here and elsewhere i get the feeling that more and more of my kosovar albanian frnds and colleagues have had enough of him and his questionable ways. he may have made sense from a post-war POV, but the time has come for some new, post-war leadership. a tad less corrupt and with the ability to move into the future.
that is not an attack on thaci and co. but sometimes change is a good thing and enough is enough.
of course i understand why my kosovar colleagues do not wish to show too much disunity here, given all of the ubiquitous attacks and hate disguised as humor, or news. umph.
as for the icj ruling, as i have said from the beginning, that will never rule in favor of serbia, the colonialist power. NEVER. you believe that it will due to an overload of home-spun propaganda and at great risk to your own objectivity, so to speak, and credibility.
as to all the money that tadic and co are pouring into that goal, that is a terrible shame and waste, and i would say crime ag. the common people of serbia, and the balkans. but who, here, cares about the people? let them eat nationalism, a la marie antoinette (or so they said.)
once the icj case is over, we should be able to make progress but there is no certainty thereof.
and i will remind, once again, that the blgd regime continues to shelter mass murderer mladic, and that this last mass grave of albanian civilians, murdered and kidnapped by serb army forces, continues to remain, cemented over and covered up inside serbia. nothing. how long will it take to dole out the bodies... absolutely frightening and ghoulish. we must never accept that!
as to thaci: here and elsewhere i get the feeling that more and more of my kosovar albanian frnds and colleagues have had enough of him and his questionable ways. he may have made sense from a post-war POV, but the time has come for some new, post-war leadership. a tad less corrupt and with the ability to move into the future.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
You are right, a "tad less" antisemitic Führer than Hitler would be terrific for Germany. Not much, just a "tad less".
But I am glad, after years of defending that criminal you admit what Serbs are saying about him - in some peculiar way but "На безрыбие и рак рыба", better than still defending what is impossible to defend.
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that is not an attack on thaci and co. but sometimes change is a good thing and enough is enough.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
Are you afraid of him or what? Yep, he is a very intimidating personality. Would become an excellent inmate, I would give him either straight 40 (years) or 3 (meters of rope). Rope is cheaper and can be re-used, there is still Haradinaj and Çeku around...
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of course i understand why my kosovar colleagues do not wish to show too much disunity here, given all of the ubiquitous attacks and hate disguised as humor, or news. umph.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
As far as I recall, B92 is based in Belgrade. Who is attacking whom? I did not see a single Serbian attack on Koha Ditore.
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as for the icj ruling, as i have said from the beginning, that will never rule in favor of serbia
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
Court is a court. The verdict can be predicted like the result of tossing a coin. Everyone remembers OJ. All I can do is just to cross my fingers: may that "never rule in favor of serbia" phrase hunt you for years coming, LOL. You betting on a horse race where everything is rigged, all horses included. I am sure, Serbs know that and are preparing for either outcome.
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let them eat nationalism, a la marie antoinette (or so they said.)
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
This does not make any sense, neither factual nor historic. Mind you, Marie Antoinette was Austrian and not French and that nationalism wasn't "invented" by nobility?
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once the icj case is over, we should be able to make progress but there is no certainty thereof.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
You know... if "pro" is positive and "con" is negative... What is the opposite of "PROGRESS"? You got it: "CONGRESS".
That tells all.
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and i will remind, once again, that the blgd regime continues to shelter mass murderer mladic,
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
If you have the evidence, don't hide it, c'mon, bring it on!!! But first, finally, contact Ewa and push her employer to re-locate her to Raska. Once you do it - let's go and let's arrest Mladic in Belgrade.
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and that this last mass grave of albanian civilians, murdered and kidnapped by serb army forces, continues to remain, cemented over and covered up inside serbia. nothing. how long will it take to dole out the bodies... absolutely frightening and ghoulish. we must never accept that!
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
Wow, you already know everything... Not even EULEX does know. Unfortunately things aren't that easy. EULEX needs forensic experts. Forensic experts have a tight schedule. They are trained decades to do their job, not many specialists are around. Besides, few weeks - and summer is here, traditionally no politics in summer. You can push EULEX, prosecutors and NGO-s in both BG and PR, even the company Ewa is working with. You know where they will send you... Far-far away.
What would you do if you have to choose between Thaci, Haradinaj and Kurti? Kind of a choice between the devil and deep blue sea!
(Top, 22 May 2010 20:42)
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Get real and recognise Serbia as my country and then be led by credible politicians. That's what I would do.
"Prishtina may be full of KLA politicians and Beograd is full of Milosevics and his cronies. "
(RKS, 23 May 2010 00:49)
Not only. In Serbia, there are some democratical political parties, and not only Radicals, DSS and SPS and parties like that who still have a lot of Milosevic-era (and minded) leaders.
good morning/ evening. there are two points here being conflated, well, at least 2. one concerns thaci and the other the outcome of the icj case. they really need to be separated.
as to thaci: here and elsewhere i get the feeling that more and more of my kosovar albanian frnds and colleagues have had enough of him and his questionable ways. he may have made sense from a post-war POV, but the time has come for some new, post-war leadership. a tad less corrupt and with the ability to move into the future.
that is not an attack on thaci and co. but sometimes change is a good thing and enough is enough.
of course i understand why my kosovar colleagues do not wish to show too much disunity here, given all of the ubiquitous attacks and hate disguised as humor, or news. umph.
as for the icj ruling, as i have said from the beginning, that will never rule in favor of serbia, the colonialist power. NEVER. you believe that it will due to an overload of home-spun propaganda and at great risk to your own objectivity, so to speak, and credibility.
as to all the money that tadic and co are pouring into that goal, that is a terrible shame and waste, and i would say crime ag. the common people of serbia, and the balkans. but who, here, cares about the people? let them eat nationalism, a la marie antoinette (or so they said.)
once the icj case is over, we should be able to make progress but there is no certainty thereof.
and i will remind, once again, that the blgd regime continues to shelter mass murderer mladic, and that this last mass grave of albanian civilians, murdered and kidnapped by serb army forces, continues to remain, cemented over and covered up inside serbia. nothing. how long will it take to dole out the bodies... absolutely frightening and ghoulish. we must never accept that!
how the K-Albanians elect officials to lead them when the politicians there seem so clueless on how the world really works.
(American Eagle, 22 May 2010 13:18)
Go no further than your own polticians in Belgrade. They have been lying to you day in , day out.
So what are the consequences of a favourable ICJ decision towards the authors of the UDI?
The question is very narrow and basically just asks whether the declaration was legal. This does not mean anyone has to recognise "Kosova" and enough powerful countries have already made a decision regardless - thus ensuring independence is blocked, so it will never become a legitimate country unless Serbia says so.
"Kosova" may get a few more recognitions but that's about it. We still remain in the status quo.
On the other side, we will see many separists movements around the world pushing for similar recognition, including RS. The reputation of Tadic and his sell-outs will be severely damaged while giving more power to the opposition, who will have a much harder line towards the province.
I don't think an ICJ decision in "Kosova's" favour will help it. It just cements the status quo and has the potential to cause further destabilisation.
Someone please explain to me how a favourable result for "Kosova" changes anything?
I honestly think that this man is a poorly educated fool, Serbia would not have invested the vast money and time it has done if it were not almost certain it would win.
Negotiations will begin with Albanians about the southern province as the reality that the US hegemony will not protect them forever and it will be in their interests to reach a compramise with their neighbors.
Thaci also promised 100 recognitions by the end of 2008. He also ignores the fact that Russia and China will block UN membership as the five EU countries that don't recognize Kosovo will block EU memberships. I don't understand how the K-Albanians elect officials to lead them when the politicians there seem so clueless on how the world really works.
There never was a country of Kosovo, and there is no need for one now.
If the US drops a few bombs and sets up new territories, that is aggressive invasion of another's territory and needs to be illegal.
Whatever the excuse, that is not something that can be allowed to stand in international law.
1244 (in itself a questionable ruling because it was signed up for under duress) is (none-the-less) accepted by the UN and by Serbia. It is very clearly in the spirit and wording of 1244 that autonomy should be given to the region within the territory of Serbia.
The US very deliberately and cynically intended breaking the terms of that signing even as they put pen to paper. If the ICJ goes against the territorial integrity of 1244 then all UN law becomes meaningless.
Their justification for stealing land from Serbia is that Milosevic was a baddy who needed to be punished. He has gone now and that bigotry against Serbia has to stop. It wasn't just the surrounding countries that were freed of Milosevic and his poor politics - Serbia that was freed from him too.
The ethnic cleansing done against Serbs by Albanians predates Milosevic and affected many innocent Serbian people. The ICJ should make it clear that the mono-ethnic ambition of Albanians in Kosovo is an established fact and should not be rewarded. The very term 'ethnic cleansing' was first used to describe their behaviour in trying to drive Serbs out of Kosovo. The racist basis of the Albanian effort to acquire land from a neighbouring territory is not something that can be accepted as being legal. The precedent is alarming.
I bet however that they will fudge and go along with the US.
The legal solution still has to be 1244 and substantial autonomy. In the absence of that, Kosovo will (in practice) continue to be an international protectorate dependent on foreign support to maintain its flimsy existence.
If we were to believe Hash, KiM would be a UN member, NATO member, EU candidate etc... Politicians of this illegally recognized protectorate need to put on a happy face bc their military sponsors are pulling out while Serbia is rebuilding its army, completed its largest military base near KiM and is already the region's top weapons exporter, while Russia will inevitably establish its military presence with the S. Stream passing through Nis. Hash & co. will rot in a Serbian jail soon.
Amid all the new attention and investigations around his so called leadership does Thaci really see himself being around too much longer. One word "liability".
High duke is correct, money will run out as NATO is streached further and further across it's numerous conflicts which show no signs of ending. Priority will be given to the most lucrative areas and ones which have the potential of being ruled. This will prove difficult in the Balkans as Russia is in close proximity and with Serbia's growing influence in the region will be very difficult to maintain a hegemony there even if NATO members are nearby.
A negotiation will take place soon where Albanians will be faced with a reality, they cannot do what they want, they must obey laws, if they wish for Serb war criminals to be jailed then they will also have to jail theirs.
The problem here is that the situation on the ground is difficult; Serbs will not be reaccepted into Albanian society and repopulation cannot occur as it is too dangerous. A massive change in power will be required whereupon Serbia will be able to guarantee the safety of it's Serbs in KiM and of the Albanians from the radical elements which wish to create a monoethnic state. Of course if this is not possible we will see force used against them which will be the only course of action as Albanians have shown reasoning is not an option.
What would you do if you have to choose between Thaci, Haradinaj and Kurti? Kind of a choice between the devil and deep blue sea!
(Top, 22 May 2010 20:42)
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Get real and recognise Serbia as my country and then be led by credible politicians. That's what I would do.
Before I focus on this particular lie, let's review some of the other odd lies of Hachim "Hash" Thaci:
1. 100 recognitions for Kosovo in the first 48 - 72 hours.
2. Russia's recognition of Kosovo.
3. China's recognition of Kosovo.
4. Pristina's plans to "integrate" the north being supported by international powers
5. K Serbs as Kosovo's most privileged minority
And now:
6. ICJ ruling in Pristina's favor (unless he think's "in Pristina's favor" means not reattaching the entire region back to Serbia Proper).
I think this man does more harm than good every time he opens his mouth. Considering that almost all parties in Europe are gearing up for a return to the negotiating table once the ICJ comes down the middle between Belgrade and Pristina, forcing both sides to make concessions and pretty much cantonize the region, I really have to wonder what some people see in Thaci's leadership, much less his common sense. If I were a K Albanian, I'd be embarrased to have him as my Prime Minister.
But then again, perhaps I should really be one of his strongest supporters. God forbid Kosovo actually gets an intelligent leader that might actually steer the region towards full legitimate sovereignty. People like Thaci are our best friends.
I'm an American born in the US and not of Balkan origin. I was born with my citizenship as were my parents, grandparents and so-on. I'm not a refuge, like I assume you are, who came to the US and became a citizen. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean you should try to call me Serbian. Part of your citizenship criteria should have been about free speech respect for differing opinions.
"how the K-Albanians elect officials to lead them when the politicians there seem so clueless on how the world really works. "
(American Eagle, 22 May 2010 13:18)
Unfortunately, the people in Kosovo have no real alternatives: There are almost no honourable politicians, most of them are ex-KLA fighters, and they think that's something which is qualifying them for leading a state. Funny, somehow.
What would you do if you have to choose between Thaci, Haradinaj and Kurti? Kind of a choice between the devil and deep blue sea!
as to thaci: here and elsewhere i get the feeling that more and more of my kosovar albanian frnds and colleagues have had enough of him and his questionable ways. he may have made sense from a post-war POV, but the time has come for some new, post-war leadership. a tad less corrupt and with the ability to move into the future.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
You are right, a "tad less" antisemitic Führer than Hitler would be terrific for Germany. Not much, just a "tad less".
But I am glad, after years of defending that criminal you admit what Serbs are saying about him - in some peculiar way but "На безрыбие и рак рыба", better than still defending what is impossible to defend.
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that is not an attack on thaci and co. but sometimes change is a good thing and enough is enough.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
Are you afraid of him or what? Yep, he is a very intimidating personality. Would become an excellent inmate, I would give him either straight 40 (years) or 3 (meters of rope). Rope is cheaper and can be re-used, there is still Haradinaj and Çeku around...
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of course i understand why my kosovar colleagues do not wish to show too much disunity here, given all of the ubiquitous attacks and hate disguised as humor, or news. umph.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
As far as I recall, B92 is based in Belgrade. Who is attacking whom? I did not see a single Serbian attack on Koha Ditore.
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as for the icj ruling, as i have said from the beginning, that will never rule in favor of serbia
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
Court is a court. The verdict can be predicted like the result of tossing a coin. Everyone remembers OJ. All I can do is just to cross my fingers: may that "never rule in favor of serbia" phrase hunt you for years coming, LOL. You betting on a horse race where everything is rigged, all horses included. I am sure, Serbs know that and are preparing for either outcome.
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let them eat nationalism, a la marie antoinette (or so they said.)
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
This does not make any sense, neither factual nor historic. Mind you, Marie Antoinette was Austrian and not French and that nationalism wasn't "invented" by nobility?
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once the icj case is over, we should be able to make progress but there is no certainty thereof.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
You know... if "pro" is positive and "con" is negative... What is the opposite of "PROGRESS"? You got it: "CONGRESS".
That tells all.
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and i will remind, once again, that the blgd regime continues to shelter mass murderer mladic,
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
If you have the evidence, don't hide it, c'mon, bring it on!!! But first, finally, contact Ewa and push her employer to re-locate her to Raska. Once you do it - let's go and let's arrest Mladic in Belgrade.
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and that this last mass grave of albanian civilians, murdered and kidnapped by serb army forces, continues to remain, cemented over and covered up inside serbia. nothing. how long will it take to dole out the bodies... absolutely frightening and ghoulish. we must never accept that!
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 22 May 2010 19:43)
Wow, you already know everything... Not even EULEX does know. Unfortunately things aren't that easy. EULEX needs forensic experts. Forensic experts have a tight schedule. They are trained decades to do their job, not many specialists are around. Besides, few weeks - and summer is here, traditionally no politics in summer. You can push EULEX, prosecutors and NGO-s in both BG and PR, even the company Ewa is working with. You know where they will send you... Far-far away.
"Prishtina may be full of KLA politicians and Beograd is full of Milosevics and his cronies. "
(RKS, 23 May 2010 00:49)
Not only. In Serbia, there are some democratical political parties, and not only Radicals, DSS and SPS and parties like that who still have a lot of Milosevic-era (and minded) leaders.
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