17

Thursday, 20.05.2010.

17:25

Campaign under way for local elections in K. Mitrovica

Political parties are campaigning in northern Kosovska Mitrovica ahead of early local elections scheduled there for May 30.

Izvor: Tanjug

Campaign under way for local elections in K. Mitrovica IMAGE SOURCE
IMAGE DESCRIPTION

17 Komentari

Sortiraj po:

lowe

pre 13 godina

"Ahh, what do we have here? The usual selective interpretation of what constitutes international law. Why has that been the Serb camp main trait for so many decades? You claim to be the biggest advocates of 1244. You wave that 1244 to everyone and are quick to point out how you and the international factor in the UNSC both signed it and therefore it should be respected. Yet you violate your own signature, the very same international accord you claim will hold world order together and it will stop Armageddon. The very same international accord you are the staunchest advocates of is being violated by none others than you yourself. You know Serbia itself signed that while 1244 is still in power it has no more any rights to organize elections in Kosova. So breaking this law Serbia is stating that it holds 1244 to be invalid. But it asked ICJ to "enforce" 1244. What a twisted web. The Serb state claims 1244 to be valid yet at the same time it claims it to be invalid. Where is the outcry, the anger, ire of such "staunch supporters" of international law such as Ron, or Mike? Or are they more than ok when 1244 is broken. Well as long as Serbia is violating and breaking it. Hypocrisy? Of course it is.
(johny, 21 May 2010 17:51) "

Who was it who first violated 1244 by doing its UDI? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

When Pristina breached 1244, don't you think Belgrade has the right then to take measures to prevent you guys from further benefiting from that breach? Especially when the majority of inhabitants in that part of Kosovo are suppportive of Belgrade? Or does human rights not extend to the lesser mortals that you obviously consider the K-Serbs to be?

One more thing. Under 1244 Serbia was not to organize elections in her PROVINCE of Kosovo. Nothing in 1244 however to prevent her from taking measures to counter the so called STATE of "Kosova" -- it can be argued that such measures can include elections in the north to undermine this "Kosova" which 1244 never countenanced.

Milan

pre 13 godina

Hypocrisy? Of course it is.
(johny, 21 May 2010 17:51)

Johny - the biggest hypocrisy is supporting pseudoelections organized by illegal state. So if according 1244 Kosovo is part of Serbia under UN protectorate - all elections here should be organized by UN (UNMIK). Including last elections organized by Thaci pseudogovernment. So - if international community don't declared illegal these Thaci's pseudoelections, Serb community of KiM can organize their own elections.
But if Kosovo will back to their legal status described in 1244 (serbian province under UN protectorate) - will be no problem for organisation all-Kosovo elections under UNMIK.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"The Serb state claims 1244 to be valid yet at the same time it claims it to be invalid. Where is the outcry, the anger, ire of such "staunch supporters" of international law such as Ron, or Mike? Or are they more than ok when 1244 is broken. Well as long as Serbia is violating and breaking it. Hypocrisy? Of course it is." (johny)

-- How is 1244 being violated by Belgrade? 1244 assures Serbia's territorial integrity over Kosovo.

As such, Belgrade is organizing local elections in a region of Southeastern Europe that, according to 1244, is still a part of Serbia.

Moreover, Kosovo-UNMIK's staunchest supporters on the international stage have all voiced their opinion that Serbia need not recognize Kosovo. Therefore, by not recognizing, they can continue to treat the region as part of its own territory.

Organizing local elections is doing such. I fail to see what you're bent out of shape over. I mean if there's one thing I could raise my eyebrows to is why Belgrade's only organzing local elections in the north and Novo Brdo. If Kosovo is all of Serbia, shouldn't they organize elections everywhere? Peculiar, I know, but it seems Belgrade's being far more practical than we give them credit for.

And if you still think what's going on is "illegal", might I recommend you send a stern letter to Thaci for allowing another state to violate Kosovo's sovereignty - even if the areas in which it's being violated have remained off Pristina's socio-political grid? The fault clearly lies with Pristina's inability at running a multiethnic state. There's really nothing else to complain about.

johny

pre 13 godina

Anyway I don't see anything in violation of international law when a country organizes elections on its territory and which is supported by the K-Serb majority there.
(lowe, 21 May 2010 16:34)

Ahh, what do we have here? The usual selective interpretation of what constitutes international law. Why has that been the Serb camp main trait for so many decades? You claim to be the biggest advocates of 1244. You wave that 1244 to everyone and are quick to point out how you and the international factor in the UNSC both signed it and therefore it should be respected. Yet you violate your own signature, the very same international accord you claim will hold world order together and it will stop Armageddon. The very same international accord you are the staunchest advocates of is being violated by none others than you yourself. You know Serbia itself signed that while 1244 is still in power it has no more any rights to organize elections in Kosova. So breaking this law Serbia is stating that it holds 1244 to be invalid. But it asked ICJ to "enforce" 1244. What a twisted web. The Serb state claims 1244 to be valid yet at the same time it claims it to be invalid. Where is the outcry, the anger, ire of such "staunch supporters" of international law such as Ron, or Mike? Or are they more than ok when 1244 is broken. Well as long as Serbia is violating and breaking it. Hypocrisy? Of course it is.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"Serbia violating 1244? How is that possible? Aren't you supposed the be the staunchest supporters of 1244 and "international law" and yet you are breaking it?
(johny, 20 May 2010 18:51) "

Well, Pristina violated 1244 with its UDI and so you guys are in no position to cast stones ... although I must say you did a pretty good job to date throwing stones ever so often at the K-Serbs and their properties from the endless reports on the subject that we kept reading about.

Anyway I don't see anything in violation of international law when a country organizes elections on its territory and which is supported by the K-Serb majority there.

Jason

pre 13 godina

-- Message to Naim: what has Pristina offered the north that they can't get from Belgrade? I've been to that "lawless" north. It's a lot nicer, and cleaner, than anything in the "lawful" south. You claim their votes are going to "mafia" leaders. Tell me Naim, what leaders in Pristina are not connected to their own mafia?

Telling Serbs to join Pristina's institutions is about as intelligent as telling Albanians to join Belgrade's.
(Mike, 20 May 2010 22:40)

Indeed. Belgrade just repaved King Peter Street and the process is underway to remove those awful kiosks lining the street. It is looking better every day. Before this, it still looked better than anywhere in the south (except maybe Istok, which is a rather nice town as well). So Naim, Belgrade IS indeed doing things in the north to improve the quality of life for people residing there. Granted, much more could be done but compared to what Pristina has to offer - its a no-brainer.

As for the elctions themselves, the majority of people in the north support them. That, my friend, is democracy.

Ron

pre 13 godina

# Why can't they be headquartered in Prishtina, if this is legal election???

No guts no GLORY.
(Kosova-USA, 20 May 2010 20:40)

My friend! Albanians in the Serbian province of Kosovo should indeed be open to this. Then Kosovo can again become what is was, is and will be: an autonmous Serbian province.

Remember the deal in 1999, please!

---

Woo hoo illegal elections. Way to uphold the "international law" by breaking Resolution 1244.

Personally, I could care less about these pseudo-elections. They hold no water.
(RKS, 20 May 2010 20:23)

My friend,

If Albanians really care about 1244 they should withdraw their illegal UDI now!

Learn to live together! No new borders, no new stats. And please stop wasting Western money please!

Nikola

pre 13 godina

Wait a minute.. something is fishy to me. I thought Kosovo is a indepenent, democratic country? Well I mean if they are.. then we shouldnt be able to do this right in their faces.

But we are, and we can.

Serbian paramilitary groups need to be started up again and althought not offically supported by Belgrade.. should recieve funds. That way we can secure Strpce & Gracanica and kick out any collaborators who took the money over faith.

Wishful thinking on my part, until Tadic faces Milosevic's fate. This bandit creation will blow over soon when they realize they've reached a dead end.

Keep in mind my fellow Albanian citizens in Serbia, Serbs are STILL the largest ethnic group in ex-YU and it took the strongest alliance in the world to keep us down.

But they wont be there forever...

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Why can't they be headquartered in Prishtina, if this is legal election???" (Kosova-USA)

-- Probably because they don't want to deal with the sporadic cuts to power and phone service that is characteristic of Pristina. It's better to stay in Belgrade with branch offices in Mitrovica.

When's Hash opening up a branch office in Mitrovica?

Mike

pre 13 godina

At the time of this posting, this article is commented on by five Albanian diasporas that are apparently upset at the fact that "illegal" elections are being held in a region of Kosovo-UNMIK that the "legitimate" government has no authority over.

Maybe Somalia's international clout will step in an help.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Message to my friends Serbs.. definitly these elections will not bring any good to your daily life so why bother to vote?you live in a lawless north mitrovica all the benefits and investment the Serbian government does goes to your mafia leaders, actualy they get rich and you vote and your vote won't ne recognised Any where in the world, except Serbia ofcourse they investing..So take it or leave it." (Naim)

-- Message to Naim: what has Pristina offered the north that they can't get from Belgrade? I've been to that "lawless" north. It's a lot nicer, and cleaner, than anything in the "lawful" south. You claim their votes are going to "mafia" leaders. Tell me Naim, what leaders in Pristina are not connected to their own mafia?

Telling Serbs to join Pristina's institutions is about as intelligent as telling Albanians to join Belgrade's.

Naim

pre 13 godina

Election after electins, these elections no doubt they are illegal even Serbs knows about but in here is something else behind. it's a message Serbian governmet sent to the world to pretend that Kosovo is not stable in which case they hold kosovar Serbs hostage and manipulate with them. Message to my friends Serbs.. definitly these elections will not bring any good to your daily life so why bother to vote?you live in a lawless north mitrovica all the benefits and investment the Serbian government does goes to your mafia leaders, actualy they get rich and you vote and your vote won't ne recognised Any where in the world, except Serbia ofcourse they investing..So take it or leave it.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

Among those that will participate are the most important ruling and opposition parties headquartered in Belgrade.


Why can't they be headquartered in Prishtina, if this is legal election???

No guts no GLORY.

RKS

pre 13 godina

Woo hoo illegal elections. Way to uphold the "international law" by breaking Resolution 1244.

Personally, I could care less about these pseudo-elections. They hold no water.

johny

pre 13 godina

Serbia violating 1244? How is that possible? Aren't you supposed the be the staunchest supporters of 1244 and "international law" and yet you are breaking it?

Mike

pre 13 godina

At the time of this posting, this article is commented on by five Albanian diasporas that are apparently upset at the fact that "illegal" elections are being held in a region of Kosovo-UNMIK that the "legitimate" government has no authority over.

Maybe Somalia's international clout will step in an help.

johny

pre 13 godina

Serbia violating 1244? How is that possible? Aren't you supposed the be the staunchest supporters of 1244 and "international law" and yet you are breaking it?

RKS

pre 13 godina

Woo hoo illegal elections. Way to uphold the "international law" by breaking Resolution 1244.

Personally, I could care less about these pseudo-elections. They hold no water.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

Among those that will participate are the most important ruling and opposition parties headquartered in Belgrade.


Why can't they be headquartered in Prishtina, if this is legal election???

No guts no GLORY.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Message to my friends Serbs.. definitly these elections will not bring any good to your daily life so why bother to vote?you live in a lawless north mitrovica all the benefits and investment the Serbian government does goes to your mafia leaders, actualy they get rich and you vote and your vote won't ne recognised Any where in the world, except Serbia ofcourse they investing..So take it or leave it." (Naim)

-- Message to Naim: what has Pristina offered the north that they can't get from Belgrade? I've been to that "lawless" north. It's a lot nicer, and cleaner, than anything in the "lawful" south. You claim their votes are going to "mafia" leaders. Tell me Naim, what leaders in Pristina are not connected to their own mafia?

Telling Serbs to join Pristina's institutions is about as intelligent as telling Albanians to join Belgrade's.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Why can't they be headquartered in Prishtina, if this is legal election???" (Kosova-USA)

-- Probably because they don't want to deal with the sporadic cuts to power and phone service that is characteristic of Pristina. It's better to stay in Belgrade with branch offices in Mitrovica.

When's Hash opening up a branch office in Mitrovica?

Nikola

pre 13 godina

Wait a minute.. something is fishy to me. I thought Kosovo is a indepenent, democratic country? Well I mean if they are.. then we shouldnt be able to do this right in their faces.

But we are, and we can.

Serbian paramilitary groups need to be started up again and althought not offically supported by Belgrade.. should recieve funds. That way we can secure Strpce & Gracanica and kick out any collaborators who took the money over faith.

Wishful thinking on my part, until Tadic faces Milosevic's fate. This bandit creation will blow over soon when they realize they've reached a dead end.

Keep in mind my fellow Albanian citizens in Serbia, Serbs are STILL the largest ethnic group in ex-YU and it took the strongest alliance in the world to keep us down.

But they wont be there forever...

Jason

pre 13 godina

-- Message to Naim: what has Pristina offered the north that they can't get from Belgrade? I've been to that "lawless" north. It's a lot nicer, and cleaner, than anything in the "lawful" south. You claim their votes are going to "mafia" leaders. Tell me Naim, what leaders in Pristina are not connected to their own mafia?

Telling Serbs to join Pristina's institutions is about as intelligent as telling Albanians to join Belgrade's.
(Mike, 20 May 2010 22:40)

Indeed. Belgrade just repaved King Peter Street and the process is underway to remove those awful kiosks lining the street. It is looking better every day. Before this, it still looked better than anywhere in the south (except maybe Istok, which is a rather nice town as well). So Naim, Belgrade IS indeed doing things in the north to improve the quality of life for people residing there. Granted, much more could be done but compared to what Pristina has to offer - its a no-brainer.

As for the elctions themselves, the majority of people in the north support them. That, my friend, is democracy.

Ron

pre 13 godina

# Why can't they be headquartered in Prishtina, if this is legal election???

No guts no GLORY.
(Kosova-USA, 20 May 2010 20:40)

My friend! Albanians in the Serbian province of Kosovo should indeed be open to this. Then Kosovo can again become what is was, is and will be: an autonmous Serbian province.

Remember the deal in 1999, please!

---

Woo hoo illegal elections. Way to uphold the "international law" by breaking Resolution 1244.

Personally, I could care less about these pseudo-elections. They hold no water.
(RKS, 20 May 2010 20:23)

My friend,

If Albanians really care about 1244 they should withdraw their illegal UDI now!

Learn to live together! No new borders, no new stats. And please stop wasting Western money please!

Naim

pre 13 godina

Election after electins, these elections no doubt they are illegal even Serbs knows about but in here is something else behind. it's a message Serbian governmet sent to the world to pretend that Kosovo is not stable in which case they hold kosovar Serbs hostage and manipulate with them. Message to my friends Serbs.. definitly these elections will not bring any good to your daily life so why bother to vote?you live in a lawless north mitrovica all the benefits and investment the Serbian government does goes to your mafia leaders, actualy they get rich and you vote and your vote won't ne recognised Any where in the world, except Serbia ofcourse they investing..So take it or leave it.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"The Serb state claims 1244 to be valid yet at the same time it claims it to be invalid. Where is the outcry, the anger, ire of such "staunch supporters" of international law such as Ron, or Mike? Or are they more than ok when 1244 is broken. Well as long as Serbia is violating and breaking it. Hypocrisy? Of course it is." (johny)

-- How is 1244 being violated by Belgrade? 1244 assures Serbia's territorial integrity over Kosovo.

As such, Belgrade is organizing local elections in a region of Southeastern Europe that, according to 1244, is still a part of Serbia.

Moreover, Kosovo-UNMIK's staunchest supporters on the international stage have all voiced their opinion that Serbia need not recognize Kosovo. Therefore, by not recognizing, they can continue to treat the region as part of its own territory.

Organizing local elections is doing such. I fail to see what you're bent out of shape over. I mean if there's one thing I could raise my eyebrows to is why Belgrade's only organzing local elections in the north and Novo Brdo. If Kosovo is all of Serbia, shouldn't they organize elections everywhere? Peculiar, I know, but it seems Belgrade's being far more practical than we give them credit for.

And if you still think what's going on is "illegal", might I recommend you send a stern letter to Thaci for allowing another state to violate Kosovo's sovereignty - even if the areas in which it's being violated have remained off Pristina's socio-political grid? The fault clearly lies with Pristina's inability at running a multiethnic state. There's really nothing else to complain about.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"Serbia violating 1244? How is that possible? Aren't you supposed the be the staunchest supporters of 1244 and "international law" and yet you are breaking it?
(johny, 20 May 2010 18:51) "

Well, Pristina violated 1244 with its UDI and so you guys are in no position to cast stones ... although I must say you did a pretty good job to date throwing stones ever so often at the K-Serbs and their properties from the endless reports on the subject that we kept reading about.

Anyway I don't see anything in violation of international law when a country organizes elections on its territory and which is supported by the K-Serb majority there.

Milan

pre 13 godina

Hypocrisy? Of course it is.
(johny, 21 May 2010 17:51)

Johny - the biggest hypocrisy is supporting pseudoelections organized by illegal state. So if according 1244 Kosovo is part of Serbia under UN protectorate - all elections here should be organized by UN (UNMIK). Including last elections organized by Thaci pseudogovernment. So - if international community don't declared illegal these Thaci's pseudoelections, Serb community of KiM can organize their own elections.
But if Kosovo will back to their legal status described in 1244 (serbian province under UN protectorate) - will be no problem for organisation all-Kosovo elections under UNMIK.

johny

pre 13 godina

Anyway I don't see anything in violation of international law when a country organizes elections on its territory and which is supported by the K-Serb majority there.
(lowe, 21 May 2010 16:34)

Ahh, what do we have here? The usual selective interpretation of what constitutes international law. Why has that been the Serb camp main trait for so many decades? You claim to be the biggest advocates of 1244. You wave that 1244 to everyone and are quick to point out how you and the international factor in the UNSC both signed it and therefore it should be respected. Yet you violate your own signature, the very same international accord you claim will hold world order together and it will stop Armageddon. The very same international accord you are the staunchest advocates of is being violated by none others than you yourself. You know Serbia itself signed that while 1244 is still in power it has no more any rights to organize elections in Kosova. So breaking this law Serbia is stating that it holds 1244 to be invalid. But it asked ICJ to "enforce" 1244. What a twisted web. The Serb state claims 1244 to be valid yet at the same time it claims it to be invalid. Where is the outcry, the anger, ire of such "staunch supporters" of international law such as Ron, or Mike? Or are they more than ok when 1244 is broken. Well as long as Serbia is violating and breaking it. Hypocrisy? Of course it is.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"Ahh, what do we have here? The usual selective interpretation of what constitutes international law. Why has that been the Serb camp main trait for so many decades? You claim to be the biggest advocates of 1244. You wave that 1244 to everyone and are quick to point out how you and the international factor in the UNSC both signed it and therefore it should be respected. Yet you violate your own signature, the very same international accord you claim will hold world order together and it will stop Armageddon. The very same international accord you are the staunchest advocates of is being violated by none others than you yourself. You know Serbia itself signed that while 1244 is still in power it has no more any rights to organize elections in Kosova. So breaking this law Serbia is stating that it holds 1244 to be invalid. But it asked ICJ to "enforce" 1244. What a twisted web. The Serb state claims 1244 to be valid yet at the same time it claims it to be invalid. Where is the outcry, the anger, ire of such "staunch supporters" of international law such as Ron, or Mike? Or are they more than ok when 1244 is broken. Well as long as Serbia is violating and breaking it. Hypocrisy? Of course it is.
(johny, 21 May 2010 17:51) "

Who was it who first violated 1244 by doing its UDI? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

When Pristina breached 1244, don't you think Belgrade has the right then to take measures to prevent you guys from further benefiting from that breach? Especially when the majority of inhabitants in that part of Kosovo are suppportive of Belgrade? Or does human rights not extend to the lesser mortals that you obviously consider the K-Serbs to be?

One more thing. Under 1244 Serbia was not to organize elections in her PROVINCE of Kosovo. Nothing in 1244 however to prevent her from taking measures to counter the so called STATE of "Kosova" -- it can be argued that such measures can include elections in the north to undermine this "Kosova" which 1244 never countenanced.

Naim

pre 13 godina

Election after electins, these elections no doubt they are illegal even Serbs knows about but in here is something else behind. it's a message Serbian governmet sent to the world to pretend that Kosovo is not stable in which case they hold kosovar Serbs hostage and manipulate with them. Message to my friends Serbs.. definitly these elections will not bring any good to your daily life so why bother to vote?you live in a lawless north mitrovica all the benefits and investment the Serbian government does goes to your mafia leaders, actualy they get rich and you vote and your vote won't ne recognised Any where in the world, except Serbia ofcourse they investing..So take it or leave it.

RKS

pre 13 godina

Woo hoo illegal elections. Way to uphold the "international law" by breaking Resolution 1244.

Personally, I could care less about these pseudo-elections. They hold no water.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

Among those that will participate are the most important ruling and opposition parties headquartered in Belgrade.


Why can't they be headquartered in Prishtina, if this is legal election???

No guts no GLORY.

johny

pre 13 godina

Serbia violating 1244? How is that possible? Aren't you supposed the be the staunchest supporters of 1244 and "international law" and yet you are breaking it?

Mike

pre 13 godina

At the time of this posting, this article is commented on by five Albanian diasporas that are apparently upset at the fact that "illegal" elections are being held in a region of Kosovo-UNMIK that the "legitimate" government has no authority over.

Maybe Somalia's international clout will step in an help.

Nikola

pre 13 godina

Wait a minute.. something is fishy to me. I thought Kosovo is a indepenent, democratic country? Well I mean if they are.. then we shouldnt be able to do this right in their faces.

But we are, and we can.

Serbian paramilitary groups need to be started up again and althought not offically supported by Belgrade.. should recieve funds. That way we can secure Strpce & Gracanica and kick out any collaborators who took the money over faith.

Wishful thinking on my part, until Tadic faces Milosevic's fate. This bandit creation will blow over soon when they realize they've reached a dead end.

Keep in mind my fellow Albanian citizens in Serbia, Serbs are STILL the largest ethnic group in ex-YU and it took the strongest alliance in the world to keep us down.

But they wont be there forever...

Ron

pre 13 godina

# Why can't they be headquartered in Prishtina, if this is legal election???

No guts no GLORY.
(Kosova-USA, 20 May 2010 20:40)

My friend! Albanians in the Serbian province of Kosovo should indeed be open to this. Then Kosovo can again become what is was, is and will be: an autonmous Serbian province.

Remember the deal in 1999, please!

---

Woo hoo illegal elections. Way to uphold the "international law" by breaking Resolution 1244.

Personally, I could care less about these pseudo-elections. They hold no water.
(RKS, 20 May 2010 20:23)

My friend,

If Albanians really care about 1244 they should withdraw their illegal UDI now!

Learn to live together! No new borders, no new stats. And please stop wasting Western money please!

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Message to my friends Serbs.. definitly these elections will not bring any good to your daily life so why bother to vote?you live in a lawless north mitrovica all the benefits and investment the Serbian government does goes to your mafia leaders, actualy they get rich and you vote and your vote won't ne recognised Any where in the world, except Serbia ofcourse they investing..So take it or leave it." (Naim)

-- Message to Naim: what has Pristina offered the north that they can't get from Belgrade? I've been to that "lawless" north. It's a lot nicer, and cleaner, than anything in the "lawful" south. You claim their votes are going to "mafia" leaders. Tell me Naim, what leaders in Pristina are not connected to their own mafia?

Telling Serbs to join Pristina's institutions is about as intelligent as telling Albanians to join Belgrade's.

Jason

pre 13 godina

-- Message to Naim: what has Pristina offered the north that they can't get from Belgrade? I've been to that "lawless" north. It's a lot nicer, and cleaner, than anything in the "lawful" south. You claim their votes are going to "mafia" leaders. Tell me Naim, what leaders in Pristina are not connected to their own mafia?

Telling Serbs to join Pristina's institutions is about as intelligent as telling Albanians to join Belgrade's.
(Mike, 20 May 2010 22:40)

Indeed. Belgrade just repaved King Peter Street and the process is underway to remove those awful kiosks lining the street. It is looking better every day. Before this, it still looked better than anywhere in the south (except maybe Istok, which is a rather nice town as well). So Naim, Belgrade IS indeed doing things in the north to improve the quality of life for people residing there. Granted, much more could be done but compared to what Pristina has to offer - its a no-brainer.

As for the elctions themselves, the majority of people in the north support them. That, my friend, is democracy.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Why can't they be headquartered in Prishtina, if this is legal election???" (Kosova-USA)

-- Probably because they don't want to deal with the sporadic cuts to power and phone service that is characteristic of Pristina. It's better to stay in Belgrade with branch offices in Mitrovica.

When's Hash opening up a branch office in Mitrovica?

johny

pre 13 godina

Anyway I don't see anything in violation of international law when a country organizes elections on its territory and which is supported by the K-Serb majority there.
(lowe, 21 May 2010 16:34)

Ahh, what do we have here? The usual selective interpretation of what constitutes international law. Why has that been the Serb camp main trait for so many decades? You claim to be the biggest advocates of 1244. You wave that 1244 to everyone and are quick to point out how you and the international factor in the UNSC both signed it and therefore it should be respected. Yet you violate your own signature, the very same international accord you claim will hold world order together and it will stop Armageddon. The very same international accord you are the staunchest advocates of is being violated by none others than you yourself. You know Serbia itself signed that while 1244 is still in power it has no more any rights to organize elections in Kosova. So breaking this law Serbia is stating that it holds 1244 to be invalid. But it asked ICJ to "enforce" 1244. What a twisted web. The Serb state claims 1244 to be valid yet at the same time it claims it to be invalid. Where is the outcry, the anger, ire of such "staunch supporters" of international law such as Ron, or Mike? Or are they more than ok when 1244 is broken. Well as long as Serbia is violating and breaking it. Hypocrisy? Of course it is.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"Serbia violating 1244? How is that possible? Aren't you supposed the be the staunchest supporters of 1244 and "international law" and yet you are breaking it?
(johny, 20 May 2010 18:51) "

Well, Pristina violated 1244 with its UDI and so you guys are in no position to cast stones ... although I must say you did a pretty good job to date throwing stones ever so often at the K-Serbs and their properties from the endless reports on the subject that we kept reading about.

Anyway I don't see anything in violation of international law when a country organizes elections on its territory and which is supported by the K-Serb majority there.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"The Serb state claims 1244 to be valid yet at the same time it claims it to be invalid. Where is the outcry, the anger, ire of such "staunch supporters" of international law such as Ron, or Mike? Or are they more than ok when 1244 is broken. Well as long as Serbia is violating and breaking it. Hypocrisy? Of course it is." (johny)

-- How is 1244 being violated by Belgrade? 1244 assures Serbia's territorial integrity over Kosovo.

As such, Belgrade is organizing local elections in a region of Southeastern Europe that, according to 1244, is still a part of Serbia.

Moreover, Kosovo-UNMIK's staunchest supporters on the international stage have all voiced their opinion that Serbia need not recognize Kosovo. Therefore, by not recognizing, they can continue to treat the region as part of its own territory.

Organizing local elections is doing such. I fail to see what you're bent out of shape over. I mean if there's one thing I could raise my eyebrows to is why Belgrade's only organzing local elections in the north and Novo Brdo. If Kosovo is all of Serbia, shouldn't they organize elections everywhere? Peculiar, I know, but it seems Belgrade's being far more practical than we give them credit for.

And if you still think what's going on is "illegal", might I recommend you send a stern letter to Thaci for allowing another state to violate Kosovo's sovereignty - even if the areas in which it's being violated have remained off Pristina's socio-political grid? The fault clearly lies with Pristina's inability at running a multiethnic state. There's really nothing else to complain about.

Milan

pre 13 godina

Hypocrisy? Of course it is.
(johny, 21 May 2010 17:51)

Johny - the biggest hypocrisy is supporting pseudoelections organized by illegal state. So if according 1244 Kosovo is part of Serbia under UN protectorate - all elections here should be organized by UN (UNMIK). Including last elections organized by Thaci pseudogovernment. So - if international community don't declared illegal these Thaci's pseudoelections, Serb community of KiM can organize their own elections.
But if Kosovo will back to their legal status described in 1244 (serbian province under UN protectorate) - will be no problem for organisation all-Kosovo elections under UNMIK.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"Ahh, what do we have here? The usual selective interpretation of what constitutes international law. Why has that been the Serb camp main trait for so many decades? You claim to be the biggest advocates of 1244. You wave that 1244 to everyone and are quick to point out how you and the international factor in the UNSC both signed it and therefore it should be respected. Yet you violate your own signature, the very same international accord you claim will hold world order together and it will stop Armageddon. The very same international accord you are the staunchest advocates of is being violated by none others than you yourself. You know Serbia itself signed that while 1244 is still in power it has no more any rights to organize elections in Kosova. So breaking this law Serbia is stating that it holds 1244 to be invalid. But it asked ICJ to "enforce" 1244. What a twisted web. The Serb state claims 1244 to be valid yet at the same time it claims it to be invalid. Where is the outcry, the anger, ire of such "staunch supporters" of international law such as Ron, or Mike? Or are they more than ok when 1244 is broken. Well as long as Serbia is violating and breaking it. Hypocrisy? Of course it is.
(johny, 21 May 2010 17:51) "

Who was it who first violated 1244 by doing its UDI? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

When Pristina breached 1244, don't you think Belgrade has the right then to take measures to prevent you guys from further benefiting from that breach? Especially when the majority of inhabitants in that part of Kosovo are suppportive of Belgrade? Or does human rights not extend to the lesser mortals that you obviously consider the K-Serbs to be?

One more thing. Under 1244 Serbia was not to organize elections in her PROVINCE of Kosovo. Nothing in 1244 however to prevent her from taking measures to counter the so called STATE of "Kosova" -- it can be argued that such measures can include elections in the north to undermine this "Kosova" which 1244 never countenanced.