KFOR confirms attack in northern town

I served with Danes in 2004 and that is an absolute truth that many ignorant Danes were biased to Serbs, though many of them learnt very quickly that it was better to cooperate with Serbs than with Albanians who definately, taking into consideration their very nationalistic way of thinking, do not belong to Europe. As it was unwritten political guidline, even despite March 2004, Serbs were screwed as it was possible and Albanian criminals walked free. There were Danish officers who had either Serb wife or relatives married to Serbs back in Denmark, and they were revealing it only in private, otherwise it could have damaged their career. But in general, most of soldiers in my time did not give any damn what was going on - it was fun for them to have riots.
In my opinion it would be just the Serbian army being let back at least to northern part - and if Albanians start whining and attack Serb enclaves S of Ibar or KFOR, then NATO should bomb them - even if Albainans use human shields as they did during 1999 and for instance 17-18 MArch in Mitoivica. After after all this ethnic cleansing against minorities in Kosovo (Roma Mahalla in K-Mitrovica is a good example)it makes no point to protect them.

So, is this shooting "terrorim", too? What did Oliver Ivanovic say about it?
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Its called self defence! Albanians, with the helf of corrupt EULEX officials, want to spread Kosovos anarchy the the north of the province and Serbs are saying, NO!

Estonian,

You told the truth. Thanks. This is the same I was told by Swedish troops in Gracanica.

So, is this shooting "terrorim", too? What did Oliver Ivanovic say about it?

"Albanians, with the helf of corrupt EULEX officials, want to spread Kosovos anarchy the the north of the province and Serbs are saying, NO!" (Mikael C)

-- I wouldn't worry too much about that. Most officials in Pristina know pretty well they have zero authority and zero legitimacy up north. I really can't see the reason behind the attack in an area firmly under Belgrade's control.

wow, just what we needed, another poster to spread ugly stereotypes about "the albanians." and i'm sure you started out a complete neutral, right? you have yr right to yr POV, but thank god you're an "ex" kfor...

robert0
(roberto, 21 May 2010 06:25)

This comment is as autistic as the "K-elbows" and endless idling in Raska case.

Shouldn't Oliver come out and point this as a prime case of terrorism? I forget that when Serbs attack and shoot its not called terrorism. For everyone else I guess different rules apply. Why isn't the Serb camp enraged about this case of terrorism? Maybe because one of your own did it? Could that be the reason?
(johny, 20 May 2010 19:25)

I am going to have to agree with you here. Enough with the double-standards. If someone can condemn this incident as terrorism then surely he/she can do the same in Zac. If the people in Zac that call the shooting at returnees "terrorism" then surely they can label this incident as such, too.

We can argue about elections, status, or who makes the best ajver all day long. When it comes to criminal or terorrist activity there needs to be some general consensus: wrong is wrong.

Self defense? Interesting definition, indeed. Albin Kurti would argue the similar way :)

"We can argue about elections, status, or who makes the best ajver all day long. When it comes to criminal or terorrist activity there needs to be some general consensus: wrong is wrong.
(Jason, 21 May 2010 09:43)"

Amen to that. A lot would have been reached if there would be a consensus about that at least. But still there are "heroes" vs. "war criminals", "freedom fighters" vs. "terrorists".

As we could see, this applies to both sides, Serbs and Albanians.

Shouldn't Oliver come out and point this as a prime case of terrorism? I forget that when Serbs attack and shoot its not called terrorism. For everyone else I guess different rules apply. Why isn't the Serb camp enraged about this case of terrorism? Maybe because one of your own did it? Could that be the reason?

I can tell you that from someone who married a cousin of mine and was a NATO soldier in Kosova the experience is completely the opposite from yours. The Serbs where the criminals and he advocated the bombing of Serbia and N.Mitrovica. The point is; you have an opinion and like yours there are thousands who have opinions and where soldiers. That however doesn't give you or anyone else any more authority and/or credibility over what went on over there since you are not the only being on earth that have spent time in Kosova. Camuflaged clothing doesn't make anyone an expert on matters of politics.

I really can't see the reason behind the attack in an area firmly under Belgrade's control.
(Mike, 20 May 2010 17:23)

Seriously? Can't you? Hard to believe that.

I haven't been on in awhile, but I see that there is no shortage of "Kfor soldiers" willing and interested in spending time here sharing their "authentic" experiences during their stay in Kosova/o. They sure have opened my eyes with their honest to goodness candor.

(an estonian, exKFOR, 20 May 2010 16:41)
wow, just what we needed, another poster to spread ugly stereotypes about "the albanians." and i'm sure you started out a complete neutral, right? you have yr right to yr POV, but thank god you're an "ex" kfor...

robert0

So, is this shooting "terrorim", too? What did Oliver Ivanovic say about it?
Top

Its called self defence! Albanians, with the helf of corrupt EULEX officials, want to spread Kosovos anarchy the the north of the province and Serbs are saying, NO!

So, is this shooting "terrorim", too? What did Oliver Ivanovic say about it?

I served with Danes in 2004 and that is an absolute truth that many ignorant Danes were biased to Serbs, though many of them learnt very quickly that it was better to cooperate with Serbs than with Albanians who definately, taking into consideration their very nationalistic way of thinking, do not belong to Europe. As it was unwritten political guidline, even despite March 2004, Serbs were screwed as it was possible and Albanian criminals walked free. There were Danish officers who had either Serb wife or relatives married to Serbs back in Denmark, and they were revealing it only in private, otherwise it could have damaged their career. But in general, most of soldiers in my time did not give any damn what was going on - it was fun for them to have riots.
In my opinion it would be just the Serbian army being let back at least to northern part - and if Albanians start whining and attack Serb enclaves S of Ibar or KFOR, then NATO should bomb them - even if Albainans use human shields as they did during 1999 and for instance 17-18 MArch in Mitoivica. After after all this ethnic cleansing against minorities in Kosovo (Roma Mahalla in K-Mitrovica is a good example)it makes no point to protect them.

I really can't see the reason behind the attack in an area firmly under Belgrade's control.
(Mike, 20 May 2010 17:23)

Seriously? Can't you? Hard to believe that.

(an estonian, exKFOR, 20 May 2010 16:41)
wow, just what we needed, another poster to spread ugly stereotypes about "the albanians." and i'm sure you started out a complete neutral, right? you have yr right to yr POV, but thank god you're an "ex" kfor...

robert0

Self defense? Interesting definition, indeed. Albin Kurti would argue the similar way :)

"Albanians, with the helf of corrupt EULEX officials, want to spread Kosovos anarchy the the north of the province and Serbs are saying, NO!" (Mikael C)

-- I wouldn't worry too much about that. Most officials in Pristina know pretty well they have zero authority and zero legitimacy up north. I really can't see the reason behind the attack in an area firmly under Belgrade's control.

Shouldn't Oliver come out and point this as a prime case of terrorism? I forget that when Serbs attack and shoot its not called terrorism. For everyone else I guess different rules apply. Why isn't the Serb camp enraged about this case of terrorism? Maybe because one of your own did it? Could that be the reason?

I can tell you that from someone who married a cousin of mine and was a NATO soldier in Kosova the experience is completely the opposite from yours. The Serbs where the criminals and he advocated the bombing of Serbia and N.Mitrovica. The point is; you have an opinion and like yours there are thousands who have opinions and where soldiers. That however doesn't give you or anyone else any more authority and/or credibility over what went on over there since you are not the only being on earth that have spent time in Kosova. Camuflaged clothing doesn't make anyone an expert on matters of politics.

Estonian,

You told the truth. Thanks. This is the same I was told by Swedish troops in Gracanica.

I haven't been on in awhile, but I see that there is no shortage of "Kfor soldiers" willing and interested in spending time here sharing their "authentic" experiences during their stay in Kosova/o. They sure have opened my eyes with their honest to goodness candor.

Shouldn't Oliver come out and point this as a prime case of terrorism? I forget that when Serbs attack and shoot its not called terrorism. For everyone else I guess different rules apply. Why isn't the Serb camp enraged about this case of terrorism? Maybe because one of your own did it? Could that be the reason?
(johny, 20 May 2010 19:25)

I am going to have to agree with you here. Enough with the double-standards. If someone can condemn this incident as terrorism then surely he/she can do the same in Zac. If the people in Zac that call the shooting at returnees "terrorism" then surely they can label this incident as such, too.

We can argue about elections, status, or who makes the best ajver all day long. When it comes to criminal or terorrist activity there needs to be some general consensus: wrong is wrong.

wow, just what we needed, another poster to spread ugly stereotypes about "the albanians." and i'm sure you started out a complete neutral, right? you have yr right to yr POV, but thank god you're an "ex" kfor...

robert0
(roberto, 21 May 2010 06:25)

This comment is as autistic as the "K-elbows" and endless idling in Raska case.

"We can argue about elections, status, or who makes the best ajver all day long. When it comes to criminal or terorrist activity there needs to be some general consensus: wrong is wrong.
(Jason, 21 May 2010 09:43)"

Amen to that. A lot would have been reached if there would be a consensus about that at least. But still there are "heroes" vs. "war criminals", "freedom fighters" vs. "terrorists".

As we could see, this applies to both sides, Serbs and Albanians.