Captain Dragan arrested in Australia

Great News. Today the world is ONE criminal less that walks free.

He will enjoy his stay in Croation prisons.

Welcome abroad CAPTAIN welcome to Croatia where you will stay until you pass away.
Yes it is great news, there are many many many witnesses who have & will testify against that man CAPTAIN Dragan. At the end of the day he is guilty.

Ignoring the silly comments below, the real question is whether Dragan can receive a fair trial in Croatia.
(bganon, 12 May 2010 16:46)

He has a far better chance of getting a fair trial in Croatia than a Croatian, Albanian or a Bosnian would in Serbia.

Case in point: court in Serbia last year sentenced the principle actors of Suva Reka massacre for 25 years each. This for murdering 48 members of the Berisha family in cold blood.This is called Serbian Justice.

Spare us your concern for Captain Dragan and the Croatian justice and focus on the kangaroo trials in Serbia.

Proper thing to say would be : hope victims get some justice finally, but I guess that's too much to ask from Serbs these days.

The local media states that the AFP worked closely with the Dutch police, which gave them information that led to his arrest. Its amazing how much the Dutch loath the Serbian criminals Četnici. Serbia is going to be under the Dutch microscope for decades to come. Good luck Serbia joining anything without the Dutch approval they are on your case or trying stepping out of line in any way or without their say so. The Dutch will make Serbia their business for sure ,good work Dutch police.

Ignoring the silly comments below, the real question is whether Dragan can receive a fair trial in Croatia.

Let us hope that with Josipovic in charge that this signals a change in direction from Croatia with regards to both Serbia and Serbs in general.

I'll be watching this trial and will be fair in assessing whether Dragan is receiving a fair trial or not. One of the first things to notice will be the pressure the media puts upon the courts to find Dragan guilty.

The Croatian government must make it clear to editors not to try to influence the courts. And of course the same goes for the government.

Couldn't agree more with bganon, this will be interesting. However, somebody who has twice fled (from Australian authorities, who cannot be accused of "bias" against Serbs) and went into hiding very clearly has something to hide.

Balkanupdate,
maybe we should we focus on Mesic letting out a croatian man who raped and killed a 12 year old serbian girl and her family? He served what 8 years and now he is getting out. Croatian justice. Not one Ustasa was brought to trial for the over 1 million Serbs yah Serbs not Jews not Roma, Serbs. Croatia is built on Serbian childrens blood, until you give back one million Serbian lives do not open your mouth.

Firstly WW2 as mentioned for the zillionth time has nothing to do with what happeded in the 90s so stop using it as an excuse to justify Serbia's territorial expansion.

My generation, those of my parents and grandparents had nothing to do with Jasenovac. People like you should also stop inflating the WW2 numbers to over a million as it does no-one justice, especially the victims.

Captain Dragan is a war criminal and will face justice in Croatia. So much for his tough talk a few years ago where he gloated he would go to Croatia and happily face his day in court.

Obviously he went on the run because he did have something to hide .... and thats his war crimes!

>Proper thing to say would be : hope victims get some justice finally, but I guess that's too much to ask from Serbs these days.
(BalkanUpdate, 12 May 2010 19:22) >

yes, it seems too much to ask from posters on the other side (here.) who cares about victims, anyway? but there are serbs that DO care, and fight for justice for ALL, devote their lives to it. they are among the best and the brightest...

you just don't find them here.

thanks for your comments and postings.

robert-0

Balkanupdate if I don't have the right to be interested in the justice systems of neighbouring countries then the same goes for you.

What concern is it of yours how the Serbian courts try cases, if you don't consider Serbia your country.

And what exactly is the problem with a 20 year verdict? European justice systems give life sentences of around 30 years, with time off can be 25 years. I support that system and not the vengeful US system where people are put to death, which I suppose you support.

You see its not about me Serb you Albanian, its about me being into peace and justice and you wanting something to feel anger about.

Lenard EU evil Serbia Go(o)d or EU good Serbia evil.
Sounds like you need to make up your mind!
But seriously, do you have an opinion on whether the Croatian court system will try Dragan fairly.

Same question for you Balkanupdate, if you can stop disliking me for long enough to answer the question.

A fair trial in Croatia?? Please, don't insult people's intelligence. There is about as much chance of that happening as there is of NATO run Kosovo becoming multi-ethnic and having freedome of movement for all Serbs there.
Throwing a hero like Captain Dragan, who led a very disciplined group of soldiers in a war against Croatia is just one more gross injustice by NATO against Serbs, because Serbs dare to be independent while all other neighbours of ours are behaving as obedient boot lickers, as NATO wants. It's that simple.
Captain Dragan is a hero, and will always remain one, no matter what these liars and propogandists say. The truth always comes out in the end.

bganon,
I already answered your questions.There is no reason to suggest he won't have a fair trial in Croatia. Your alarming concern for a man who has admitted to killing people in Croatia is disturbing given that you sell yourself as a moderate Serb here. We can only guess what a 'none moderate" has to say about this? Oh wait, we don't have to guess. You compatriot (Taylor, 12 May 2010 22:25) said Croatians were "beastial face" people.

Frankly, as long as Serbia is still uncovering mass graves it dug in the last century, you have nothing to say about the justice in the neighboring countries.

Justice above victimhood. Peace above vengence.

Balkanupdate there is no reason to expect he won't receive a fair trial in Croatia? Well, excuse me if I think your assurances are empty. Have you heard of the Lora trial, do I need to point you to the series of reports produced by Amnesty International in the past commenting on various misjustices by the Croatian courts?

I see, so you can accuse me for what somebody else says here? Is that your idea of democracy? Come on, at least pretend to show you are fair minded!

Wow Ella are you suggesting that crimes committed by a country's citizens should be treated differently than crimes committed by foreigners? Absurd! There were hundreds of foreigners (real merceneries with no links to former Jugoslavija) fighting for Croatian forces.

And you can spare me that nonsense of doing somebody an injustice simply because he is accused of an injustice. If you truly supported human rights you wouldn't think that way.

And finally I agree that its a pity that we don't have more supporters of human rights that visit this site from 'advanced' countries of the west. Instead we have those that support commiting an injustice upon somebody else to pay back another historic injustice.

And the circle continues, thanks to that way of thinking.

You people are ridiculous. All this "FAIR TRIAL" shouting, and you fail to realize that this man came to a country he was not even born in (born in Belgrade) to command troops to FIGHT against the country's independence! How do you expect Croatia to react?? He is a foreigner who committed crimes in their territory!! Croatia has EVERY right to try him for daring to commit crimes against their citizens. Spare me you "fair trial" cries. I wish he gave the people he tortured and killed a fair chance

Dragan the only problem in your theory is that it is completely wrong.

Australia is not a member of NATO and Croatia indicted him for their own reasons, nothing to do with NATO.

Further if NATO wanted him the Hague would have indicted him.

Sometimes I worry about the simple terms you say you see the world in. Obviously looking but only seeing what you want to see is a problem for you.

It seems to me that too many people use the tragedy of the former Jugoslavija to air their own issues.

Thanks Lenard as always for your amusing grammar.

As a fellow "Croatian" (am I not entitled to call myself that since I am a Krajina Serb?) - I can assure you that "Croatia" will not deliver a fair trial to any ethnic Serb.

The ethnic Croat agenda has always been the same, to eliminate us entirely.

Question to the Croatian Croatians - if you do not accept us as equal citizens - then why not let Krajina go?

Is it not the Croatian/Albanian argument that since Serbia does not accept K-Albanians as equals (we just want the land) - Kosovo must be independent?

Let my people (Krajinians) go.

Croatia's politics are a competition on who holds the most fanatical hatred of Serbs... Europe's disgrace.

Nothing in Serbia comes even close.

I am one of those supporters of human rights from a western country that bganon talks of. I’ve never lived in Yugoslavia not any successor country, although I have enjoyed countless visits over the last 10 years. My partner is Serb (but also feels Yugoslavian) so I have some insights on justice.

It’s fair to say that, when countries and ethnicities are at war, then all notions of justice evaporate. This is the tragedy of war. The challenge of peace is to rebuild justice and, importantly, to enable the people to see fair and impartial justice. This inevitably is a process that can take time.


Ill informed armchair commentators exist everywhere, not just on this site. However, citizens of countries that have been spared the tragedy of recent wars don’t need to be reminded that their justice is fair (accepting that it may not always be). But the citizens of Serbia and Croatia (and others) have a real need to observe justice in action. It is through these examples that, hopefully, people can be reassured. But at some point the armchair commentators need to take a chance that things can be improved and are being improved in their own or neighbouring countries.


What I’m saying is that unless Dragan is extradited and then tried in Croatia, we will NEVER be reassured about justice. To those who oppose his trial in Croatia, do you really want to live your life full of fear and hatred of your neighbour, and to bring up your children to have the same fears and anxieties? Think about it.


I think bganons work are apt – Justice above victimhood. Peace above vengeance.


GRUK

Perhaps Croats might wish to read a little more widely than just open their traps and regurgitate venom. Even the Straits Times, Singapore, had an article on 28 April 2010 which said that Capitan Dragan’ s lawyer was quoted as saying that his client was in the process of surrendering to authorities in Australia.

Perhaps the truth gets in the way of good spin. Another point for the less intellectually challenged that live in Australia that seem to revel in the Dutch police having a hand in this “arrest” lets just say that 2010 is a Federal election year and considering that a angry Serb community could unseat the current government….. I’m sure you can guess the rest.
Ps Capitan Dragan has other appeal avenues.

PRN, right u are, 1 potential less and now let's go further with Mladic, Thaci and Hash, that would BE the great news...

«the real question is whether Dragan can receive a fair trial in Croatia. »

Bganon, tell me if his victims received a fair treatment?

bganon wrote:

"Wow Ella are you suggesting that crimes committed by a country's citizens should be treated differently than crimes committed by foreigners? Absurd! There were hundreds of foreigners (real merceneries with no links to former Jugoslavija) fighting for Croatian forces."

bganon,

If you are going to bring up the past, which you have every right to, then it is only fair to state that the Serbs also employed various hundreds of mercenaries with no links to former Yugoslavia, e.g. Greeks and Russians among others.

Another war criminal taken off the streets is definitely good news but there are still hundreds of people who were directly involved in war crimes living freely in the Western Balkans and abroad Mladic being one of them. Until these people are arrested and taken off the streets to face justice there will not be a foundation for long term peace and reconciliation in the region.

Bganon, tell me if his victims received a fair treatment?

How am I supposed to know the answer to that question if I wasn't there?

My whole point is to establish whether those under his control received fair treatment or not in an impartial court.

As I keep repeating I am against treating somebody as guilty before any court process. And even if he is guilty he is still entitled to a fair trial, as we all are.

PP the original point that I was making was that there should be equal treatment of foreigners and those from the host country when dealing with crimes.

Do you agree?

As for my own issues, I'm an open book. Justice and fairness for all whether that is vis a vis the third world / first world, wars in the Balkans, whether it is being against the global system that makes certain people rich and certain people live in poverty.

Perhaps you can tell me, what issues you have,as you have hauled me up two posts in a row.

I really don't think people are interested in reading about my personal issues PP.

But the answer is no, and I must say it seems a very strange question to ask here.

Speaking of being evasive you didn't answer my question either.

And perhaps you could answer another, PP isn't the only moniker you've used here is it?

It seems to me that too many people use the tragedy of the former Jugoslavija to air their own issues.
(bganon, 13 May 2010 00:15)

bganon,

Do you include yourself in this group?

# Perhaps you can tell me, what issues you have,as you have hauled me up two posts in a row.
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# It seems to me that too many people use the tragedy of the former Jugoslavija to air their own issues.
(bganon, 13 May 2010 00:15)

bganon,

I don't have any issues. I'm just curious why you are being evasive when asked a direct question. Also, isn't it a bit vague to speak of these phantom people who use the wars in the former Yugoslavia as an excuse to air their issues yet refuse to identify with this group.

You people are ridiculous. All this "FAIR TRIAL" shouting, and you fail to realize that this man came to a country he was not even born in (born in Belgrade) to command troops to FIGHT against the country's independence! How do you expect Croatia to react?? He is a foreigner who committed crimes in their territory!! Croatia has EVERY right to try him for daring to commit crimes against their citizens. Spare me you "fair trial" cries. I wish he gave the people he tortured and killed a fair chance
(Ella, 13 May 2010 01:09)

The country he arrived to was Yugoslavia, of which Belgrade was the capital, no such thing as a country called Croatia at his arrival.

Captain Dragan consistantly trained his men to Legionaire standards and he quickly turned them into professional troops.
He also adopted and raised two Croatian girls and his best man(Kum) is a Croatian, this tells a story of a man who was influenced not by racial policy, but one seeking to defend Serbs from such policies adopted by an unrecognised Croatian parliment. This man also put his reputation on the line to release Muslim prisoners at the risk of being outcast by opinion, this describes he acted with good moral character during the war.

This is where Serbs would like to see some equality, if three witnesses manage to convince a judge to extradite this man(two seem dubious at best, the third I have not heard), on their testimony, then one must apply this standard when Serbian courts seek justice against Croats, Muslims and Albanaians, ie on the balance of probabilities they might have committed offences.

Ella your rant is exactly proving Captain Dragan's point, he will not get a fair trial particully when political careers can be made or broken on the opinions of their constutuents. Please also note that the Federal court of Australian ruled "there was a substantial or real chance of prejudice if he was extradited to Croatia"

If he needs to answer any allegations or go to trial then the Hague should be the option, which as stated by Dragan is acceptable to him.

Great News. Today the world is ONE criminal less that walks free.

He will enjoy his stay in Croation prisons.

Welcome abroad CAPTAIN welcome to Croatia where you will stay until you pass away.
Yes it is great news, there are many many many witnesses who have & will testify against that man CAPTAIN Dragan. At the end of the day he is guilty.

A fair trial in Croatia?? Please, don't insult people's intelligence. There is about as much chance of that happening as there is of NATO run Kosovo becoming multi-ethnic and having freedome of movement for all Serbs there.
Throwing a hero like Captain Dragan, who led a very disciplined group of soldiers in a war against Croatia is just one more gross injustice by NATO against Serbs, because Serbs dare to be independent while all other neighbours of ours are behaving as obedient boot lickers, as NATO wants. It's that simple.
Captain Dragan is a hero, and will always remain one, no matter what these liars and propogandists say. The truth always comes out in the end.

Balkanupdate,
maybe we should we focus on Mesic letting out a croatian man who raped and killed a 12 year old serbian girl and her family? He served what 8 years and now he is getting out. Croatian justice. Not one Ustasa was brought to trial for the over 1 million Serbs yah Serbs not Jews not Roma, Serbs. Croatia is built on Serbian childrens blood, until you give back one million Serbian lives do not open your mouth.

Ignoring the silly comments below, the real question is whether Dragan can receive a fair trial in Croatia.

Let us hope that with Josipovic in charge that this signals a change in direction from Croatia with regards to both Serbia and Serbs in general.

I'll be watching this trial and will be fair in assessing whether Dragan is receiving a fair trial or not. One of the first things to notice will be the pressure the media puts upon the courts to find Dragan guilty.

The Croatian government must make it clear to editors not to try to influence the courts. And of course the same goes for the government.

Thanks Lenard as always for your amusing grammar.

As a fellow "Croatian" (am I not entitled to call myself that since I am a Krajina Serb?) - I can assure you that "Croatia" will not deliver a fair trial to any ethnic Serb.

The ethnic Croat agenda has always been the same, to eliminate us entirely.

Question to the Croatian Croatians - if you do not accept us as equal citizens - then why not let Krajina go?

Is it not the Croatian/Albanian argument that since Serbia does not accept K-Albanians as equals (we just want the land) - Kosovo must be independent?

Let my people (Krajinians) go.

Croatia's politics are a competition on who holds the most fanatical hatred of Serbs... Europe's disgrace.

Nothing in Serbia comes even close.

Balkanupdate if I don't have the right to be interested in the justice systems of neighbouring countries then the same goes for you.

What concern is it of yours how the Serbian courts try cases, if you don't consider Serbia your country.

And what exactly is the problem with a 20 year verdict? European justice systems give life sentences of around 30 years, with time off can be 25 years. I support that system and not the vengeful US system where people are put to death, which I suppose you support.

You see its not about me Serb you Albanian, its about me being into peace and justice and you wanting something to feel anger about.

Lenard EU evil Serbia Go(o)d or EU good Serbia evil.
Sounds like you need to make up your mind!
But seriously, do you have an opinion on whether the Croatian court system will try Dragan fairly.

Same question for you Balkanupdate, if you can stop disliking me for long enough to answer the question.

Ignoring the silly comments below, the real question is whether Dragan can receive a fair trial in Croatia.
(bganon, 12 May 2010 16:46)

He has a far better chance of getting a fair trial in Croatia than a Croatian, Albanian or a Bosnian would in Serbia.

Case in point: court in Serbia last year sentenced the principle actors of Suva Reka massacre for 25 years each. This for murdering 48 members of the Berisha family in cold blood.This is called Serbian Justice.

Spare us your concern for Captain Dragan and the Croatian justice and focus on the kangaroo trials in Serbia.

Proper thing to say would be : hope victims get some justice finally, but I guess that's too much to ask from Serbs these days.

>Proper thing to say would be : hope victims get some justice finally, but I guess that's too much to ask from Serbs these days.
(BalkanUpdate, 12 May 2010 19:22) >

yes, it seems too much to ask from posters on the other side (here.) who cares about victims, anyway? but there are serbs that DO care, and fight for justice for ALL, devote their lives to it. they are among the best and the brightest...

you just don't find them here.

thanks for your comments and postings.

robert-0

You people are ridiculous. All this "FAIR TRIAL" shouting, and you fail to realize that this man came to a country he was not even born in (born in Belgrade) to command troops to FIGHT against the country's independence! How do you expect Croatia to react?? He is a foreigner who committed crimes in their territory!! Croatia has EVERY right to try him for daring to commit crimes against their citizens. Spare me you "fair trial" cries. I wish he gave the people he tortured and killed a fair chance

Firstly WW2 as mentioned for the zillionth time has nothing to do with what happeded in the 90s so stop using it as an excuse to justify Serbia's territorial expansion.

My generation, those of my parents and grandparents had nothing to do with Jasenovac. People like you should also stop inflating the WW2 numbers to over a million as it does no-one justice, especially the victims.

Captain Dragan is a war criminal and will face justice in Croatia. So much for his tough talk a few years ago where he gloated he would go to Croatia and happily face his day in court.

Obviously he went on the run because he did have something to hide .... and thats his war crimes!

The local media states that the AFP worked closely with the Dutch police, which gave them information that led to his arrest. Its amazing how much the Dutch loath the Serbian criminals Četnici. Serbia is going to be under the Dutch microscope for decades to come. Good luck Serbia joining anything without the Dutch approval they are on your case or trying stepping out of line in any way or without their say so. The Dutch will make Serbia their business for sure ,good work Dutch police.

bganon,
I already answered your questions.There is no reason to suggest he won't have a fair trial in Croatia. Your alarming concern for a man who has admitted to killing people in Croatia is disturbing given that you sell yourself as a moderate Serb here. We can only guess what a 'none moderate" has to say about this? Oh wait, we don't have to guess. You compatriot (Taylor, 12 May 2010 22:25) said Croatians were "beastial face" people.

Frankly, as long as Serbia is still uncovering mass graves it dug in the last century, you have nothing to say about the justice in the neighboring countries.

Couldn't agree more with bganon, this will be interesting. However, somebody who has twice fled (from Australian authorities, who cannot be accused of "bias" against Serbs) and went into hiding very clearly has something to hide.

«the real question is whether Dragan can receive a fair trial in Croatia. »

Bganon, tell me if his victims received a fair treatment?

Dragan the only problem in your theory is that it is completely wrong.

Australia is not a member of NATO and Croatia indicted him for their own reasons, nothing to do with NATO.

Further if NATO wanted him the Hague would have indicted him.

Sometimes I worry about the simple terms you say you see the world in. Obviously looking but only seeing what you want to see is a problem for you.

It seems to me that too many people use the tragedy of the former Jugoslavija to air their own issues.

Perhaps Croats might wish to read a little more widely than just open their traps and regurgitate venom. Even the Straits Times, Singapore, had an article on 28 April 2010 which said that Capitan Dragan’ s lawyer was quoted as saying that his client was in the process of surrendering to authorities in Australia.

Perhaps the truth gets in the way of good spin. Another point for the less intellectually challenged that live in Australia that seem to revel in the Dutch police having a hand in this “arrest” lets just say that 2010 is a Federal election year and considering that a angry Serb community could unseat the current government….. I’m sure you can guess the rest.
Ps Capitan Dragan has other appeal avenues.

PRN, right u are, 1 potential less and now let's go further with Mladic, Thaci and Hash, that would BE the great news...

Justice above victimhood. Peace above vengence.

Balkanupdate there is no reason to expect he won't receive a fair trial in Croatia? Well, excuse me if I think your assurances are empty. Have you heard of the Lora trial, do I need to point you to the series of reports produced by Amnesty International in the past commenting on various misjustices by the Croatian courts?

I see, so you can accuse me for what somebody else says here? Is that your idea of democracy? Come on, at least pretend to show you are fair minded!

Wow Ella are you suggesting that crimes committed by a country's citizens should be treated differently than crimes committed by foreigners? Absurd! There were hundreds of foreigners (real merceneries with no links to former Jugoslavija) fighting for Croatian forces.

And you can spare me that nonsense of doing somebody an injustice simply because he is accused of an injustice. If you truly supported human rights you wouldn't think that way.

And finally I agree that its a pity that we don't have more supporters of human rights that visit this site from 'advanced' countries of the west. Instead we have those that support commiting an injustice upon somebody else to pay back another historic injustice.

And the circle continues, thanks to that way of thinking.

Bganon, tell me if his victims received a fair treatment?

How am I supposed to know the answer to that question if I wasn't there?

My whole point is to establish whether those under his control received fair treatment or not in an impartial court.

As I keep repeating I am against treating somebody as guilty before any court process. And even if he is guilty he is still entitled to a fair trial, as we all are.

It seems to me that too many people use the tragedy of the former Jugoslavija to air their own issues.
(bganon, 13 May 2010 00:15)

bganon,

Do you include yourself in this group?

I am one of those supporters of human rights from a western country that bganon talks of. I’ve never lived in Yugoslavia not any successor country, although I have enjoyed countless visits over the last 10 years. My partner is Serb (but also feels Yugoslavian) so I have some insights on justice.

It’s fair to say that, when countries and ethnicities are at war, then all notions of justice evaporate. This is the tragedy of war. The challenge of peace is to rebuild justice and, importantly, to enable the people to see fair and impartial justice. This inevitably is a process that can take time.


Ill informed armchair commentators exist everywhere, not just on this site. However, citizens of countries that have been spared the tragedy of recent wars don’t need to be reminded that their justice is fair (accepting that it may not always be). But the citizens of Serbia and Croatia (and others) have a real need to observe justice in action. It is through these examples that, hopefully, people can be reassured. But at some point the armchair commentators need to take a chance that things can be improved and are being improved in their own or neighbouring countries.


What I’m saying is that unless Dragan is extradited and then tried in Croatia, we will NEVER be reassured about justice. To those who oppose his trial in Croatia, do you really want to live your life full of fear and hatred of your neighbour, and to bring up your children to have the same fears and anxieties? Think about it.


I think bganons work are apt – Justice above victimhood. Peace above vengeance.


GRUK

bganon wrote:

"Wow Ella are you suggesting that crimes committed by a country's citizens should be treated differently than crimes committed by foreigners? Absurd! There were hundreds of foreigners (real merceneries with no links to former Jugoslavija) fighting for Croatian forces."

bganon,

If you are going to bring up the past, which you have every right to, then it is only fair to state that the Serbs also employed various hundreds of mercenaries with no links to former Yugoslavia, e.g. Greeks and Russians among others.

Another war criminal taken off the streets is definitely good news but there are still hundreds of people who were directly involved in war crimes living freely in the Western Balkans and abroad Mladic being one of them. Until these people are arrested and taken off the streets to face justice there will not be a foundation for long term peace and reconciliation in the region.

PP the original point that I was making was that there should be equal treatment of foreigners and those from the host country when dealing with crimes.

Do you agree?

As for my own issues, I'm an open book. Justice and fairness for all whether that is vis a vis the third world / first world, wars in the Balkans, whether it is being against the global system that makes certain people rich and certain people live in poverty.

Perhaps you can tell me, what issues you have,as you have hauled me up two posts in a row.

# Perhaps you can tell me, what issues you have,as you have hauled me up two posts in a row.
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# It seems to me that too many people use the tragedy of the former Jugoslavija to air their own issues.
(bganon, 13 May 2010 00:15)

bganon,

I don't have any issues. I'm just curious why you are being evasive when asked a direct question. Also, isn't it a bit vague to speak of these phantom people who use the wars in the former Yugoslavia as an excuse to air their issues yet refuse to identify with this group.

I really don't think people are interested in reading about my personal issues PP.

But the answer is no, and I must say it seems a very strange question to ask here.

Speaking of being evasive you didn't answer my question either.

And perhaps you could answer another, PP isn't the only moniker you've used here is it?

You people are ridiculous. All this "FAIR TRIAL" shouting, and you fail to realize that this man came to a country he was not even born in (born in Belgrade) to command troops to FIGHT against the country's independence! How do you expect Croatia to react?? He is a foreigner who committed crimes in their territory!! Croatia has EVERY right to try him for daring to commit crimes against their citizens. Spare me you "fair trial" cries. I wish he gave the people he tortured and killed a fair chance
(Ella, 13 May 2010 01:09)

The country he arrived to was Yugoslavia, of which Belgrade was the capital, no such thing as a country called Croatia at his arrival.

Captain Dragan consistantly trained his men to Legionaire standards and he quickly turned them into professional troops.
He also adopted and raised two Croatian girls and his best man(Kum) is a Croatian, this tells a story of a man who was influenced not by racial policy, but one seeking to defend Serbs from such policies adopted by an unrecognised Croatian parliment. This man also put his reputation on the line to release Muslim prisoners at the risk of being outcast by opinion, this describes he acted with good moral character during the war.

This is where Serbs would like to see some equality, if three witnesses manage to convince a judge to extradite this man(two seem dubious at best, the third I have not heard), on their testimony, then one must apply this standard when Serbian courts seek justice against Croats, Muslims and Albanaians, ie on the balance of probabilities they might have committed offences.

Ella your rant is exactly proving Captain Dragan's point, he will not get a fair trial particully when political careers can be made or broken on the opinions of their constutuents. Please also note that the Federal court of Australian ruled "there was a substantial or real chance of prejudice if he was extradited to Croatia"

If he needs to answer any allegations or go to trial then the Hague should be the option, which as stated by Dragan is acceptable to him.