Lithuanian court bans gay pride march

As said before, the sexuals has no right turning our public places into places where they can frame their ego and promote promiscuity.

They can march trough their own bedrooms as much as they want, i´m not interested in how they prefer to satisfye themselves sexually, but not in front of my children!

I wish they would ban Europride in Warsaw too.

I wish they would ban Europride in Warsaw too.
(Peter Sudyka, 6 May 2010 11:34)

Patiance Peter.The ban is a matter of short time I guess.In some decades this gay parade nonsense will be just a bad memory.

I don't understand.

Lithuania is in the EU therefore NOT (officially) evil.

Russia is NOT in the EU but is (officially) evil.

Wow, they'll let anybody in to the EU these days! I suppose that is what they mean that by joining the EU you accept rule of law and human rights for all.

Well, it shows once more that many eastern European countries have different standards and interpretations of freedom than the western European ones.

Yes, i agree, and the "East's" definition all too often lies somewhere between the czarist days and the bolsheviki-stalinists. but who's judging?

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 6 May 2010 18:36)

Yes, i agree, and the "West's" definition all too often lies somewhere between the Confederacy days and the McCarthy - KKK.

This is merely just for a better balance, Roberto. If you had to say somewhat violently anti-Russian to such degree... than I have to match it. It's not what I am thinking, but it has to be next to each other. Otherwise balance would be totally lost and things go upside-down.

But maybe not that bad... the original topic is anyway about certain things being kind of upside-down.

# Well, it shows once more that many eastern European countries have different standards and interpretations of freedom than the western European ones.
(Top, 6 May 2010 15:09)

Yes, i agree, and the "East's" definition all too often lies somewhere between the czarist days and the bolsheviki-stalinists. but who's judging?

roberto
frisco

Lithuania recognised Kosova and we have much in common - we are bot snall coutries which cherish independence and despise sodomy.

From purely scientific point of view all this has no sense. It is well-known that homosexuality does exist among primates and among dolphins. And only dolphins are the other beings on Earth who have sex for fun.

It looks like homosexuality is an anomaly being a by-product of more developed brain. It's certainly an anomaly from the point of evolution and certainly an unwelcome anomaly for the involved families. But it has it's "raison d'être" (brain development by-product) so no one involved is to be blamed. It's not a sickness which can be caught - but it's better not to be promoted.

Equal rights, no discrimination: yes. Here every country has some homework to do.
Right to peaceful demonstration: yes. As long it's TASTEFUL.

What is absolute no-no: demos offending general taste. Not even most conservative catholic bishops wold object if someone would walk with his wife hand-in-hand in the middle of Vilnius. But if they would make love just in the middle of the street or pretend to - than most by-standers will be upset. I don't feel a homo demonstration should be any different. If I am not welcome to dance half-naked with some girl in the middle of the street and than imitate having sex with her in public - why should be they tolerated to dance half-naked on the street and imitate having sex with each other?

In some decades this gay parade nonsense will be just a bad memory.
(szemi, 6 May 2010 19:14)

Szemi - not sure about the above, but this day will remain in B92 history as an "18+" or "xxx" day.
Two priceless gems at the same time. Just read the name of that KLA guy.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=66963#hrono

Flamur - Then why did Albania legalize gay marriage? Kosovo will probably do the same thing, since whatever the US does or says, they will also, like a good puppy.

szemi - I pray it will be so. First that awful mosque, now this? This is a direct slap in the face by the West who seem not to grasp the concept that we are a conservative Catholic nation with a rich culture and that this sort of thing is absolutely unacceptable and incompatible with our culture, values and norms.

roberto - Who are you to judge us?

Flamur - Then why did Albania legalize gay marriage?

Peter, the Tirana government is full of Tosks who look to Greece for their social models instead of to the Albanian hearlands. It is hardly surprising that gay "marriage" is acceptable to them.

Peter, the Tirana government is full of Tosks who look to Greece for their social models instead of to the Albanian hearlands. It is hardly surprising that gay "marriage" is acceptable to them.
(Flamur, 7 May 2010 15:43)

This is a non-issue. If the State allows it, let it be and I don't see any problem. But if they insist on religious ceremony - here the leaders of local religious community have to say what is acceptable and what is not. If it's not acceptable in A-Gheg areas or in Vilnius - than let it be. If it's acceptable in A-Tosk areas, than who is involved should go there for religious ceremony if it is desired that much.

From the point of view of the State it should not matter because State and (any) Church should be separated. If they want to have that piece of paper signed by the local representative of the State - why on Earth not? I am not going to be the witness and I am not going to hold the candle in their bedroom.

And if it is about taxation - than it's fair, too. After all, the fair taxation should be not individual but based on the household. If someone has five wives and they have three husbands each - than after all, that is, too a single household - even if they won't obtain any official paperwork.

I am sure that with better taxation laws (i.e. per-household and living under same roof for extensive period of time being legally equal to marriage) the entire "gay marriage" would be mostly off the table.

But if they insist on saying "yes" before some representative of clergy - than it's a private issue of that certain religious community.

After all, I am not going to chew a large piece of pork in front of a Buddhist monk in the middle of a Buddhist monastery on Lunar New Year... Don't like that restriction? Go somewhere else on that day for a pork lunch.

I wish they would ban Europride in Warsaw too.

# Well, it shows once more that many eastern European countries have different standards and interpretations of freedom than the western European ones.
(Top, 6 May 2010 15:09)

Yes, i agree, and the "East's" definition all too often lies somewhere between the czarist days and the bolsheviki-stalinists. but who's judging?

roberto
frisco

As said before, the sexuals has no right turning our public places into places where they can frame their ego and promote promiscuity.

They can march trough their own bedrooms as much as they want, i´m not interested in how they prefer to satisfye themselves sexually, but not in front of my children!

Lithuania recognised Kosova and we have much in common - we are bot snall coutries which cherish independence and despise sodomy.

I don't understand.

Lithuania is in the EU therefore NOT (officially) evil.

Russia is NOT in the EU but is (officially) evil.

Wow, they'll let anybody in to the EU these days! I suppose that is what they mean that by joining the EU you accept rule of law and human rights for all.

Well, it shows once more that many eastern European countries have different standards and interpretations of freedom than the western European ones.

I wish they would ban Europride in Warsaw too.
(Peter Sudyka, 6 May 2010 11:34)

Patiance Peter.The ban is a matter of short time I guess.In some decades this gay parade nonsense will be just a bad memory.

From purely scientific point of view all this has no sense. It is well-known that homosexuality does exist among primates and among dolphins. And only dolphins are the other beings on Earth who have sex for fun.

It looks like homosexuality is an anomaly being a by-product of more developed brain. It's certainly an anomaly from the point of evolution and certainly an unwelcome anomaly for the involved families. But it has it's "raison d'être" (brain development by-product) so no one involved is to be blamed. It's not a sickness which can be caught - but it's better not to be promoted.

Equal rights, no discrimination: yes. Here every country has some homework to do.
Right to peaceful demonstration: yes. As long it's TASTEFUL.

What is absolute no-no: demos offending general taste. Not even most conservative catholic bishops wold object if someone would walk with his wife hand-in-hand in the middle of Vilnius. But if they would make love just in the middle of the street or pretend to - than most by-standers will be upset. I don't feel a homo demonstration should be any different. If I am not welcome to dance half-naked with some girl in the middle of the street and than imitate having sex with her in public - why should be they tolerated to dance half-naked on the street and imitate having sex with each other?

Yes, i agree, and the "East's" definition all too often lies somewhere between the czarist days and the bolsheviki-stalinists. but who's judging?

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 6 May 2010 18:36)

Yes, i agree, and the "West's" definition all too often lies somewhere between the Confederacy days and the McCarthy - KKK.

This is merely just for a better balance, Roberto. If you had to say somewhat violently anti-Russian to such degree... than I have to match it. It's not what I am thinking, but it has to be next to each other. Otherwise balance would be totally lost and things go upside-down.

But maybe not that bad... the original topic is anyway about certain things being kind of upside-down.

In some decades this gay parade nonsense will be just a bad memory.
(szemi, 6 May 2010 19:14)

Szemi - not sure about the above, but this day will remain in B92 history as an "18+" or "xxx" day.
Two priceless gems at the same time. Just read the name of that KLA guy.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=66963#hrono

Flamur - Then why did Albania legalize gay marriage? Kosovo will probably do the same thing, since whatever the US does or says, they will also, like a good puppy.

szemi - I pray it will be so. First that awful mosque, now this? This is a direct slap in the face by the West who seem not to grasp the concept that we are a conservative Catholic nation with a rich culture and that this sort of thing is absolutely unacceptable and incompatible with our culture, values and norms.

roberto - Who are you to judge us?

Flamur - Then why did Albania legalize gay marriage?

Peter, the Tirana government is full of Tosks who look to Greece for their social models instead of to the Albanian hearlands. It is hardly surprising that gay "marriage" is acceptable to them.

Peter, the Tirana government is full of Tosks who look to Greece for their social models instead of to the Albanian hearlands. It is hardly surprising that gay "marriage" is acceptable to them.
(Flamur, 7 May 2010 15:43)

This is a non-issue. If the State allows it, let it be and I don't see any problem. But if they insist on religious ceremony - here the leaders of local religious community have to say what is acceptable and what is not. If it's not acceptable in A-Gheg areas or in Vilnius - than let it be. If it's acceptable in A-Tosk areas, than who is involved should go there for religious ceremony if it is desired that much.

From the point of view of the State it should not matter because State and (any) Church should be separated. If they want to have that piece of paper signed by the local representative of the State - why on Earth not? I am not going to be the witness and I am not going to hold the candle in their bedroom.

And if it is about taxation - than it's fair, too. After all, the fair taxation should be not individual but based on the household. If someone has five wives and they have three husbands each - than after all, that is, too a single household - even if they won't obtain any official paperwork.

I am sure that with better taxation laws (i.e. per-household and living under same roof for extensive period of time being legally equal to marriage) the entire "gay marriage" would be mostly off the table.

But if they insist on saying "yes" before some representative of clergy - than it's a private issue of that certain religious community.

After all, I am not going to chew a large piece of pork in front of a Buddhist monk in the middle of a Buddhist monastery on Lunar New Year... Don't like that restriction? Go somewhere else on that day for a pork lunch.