“U.S. wants abolishment of UNSCR 1244”

Well there you go. You cannot have independence because Res 1244 says so otherwise the Yanks would not be wanting to get rid of it.

A few nervous people in the oval office.

Is is crystal clear to our Albanian friends that Res 1244 has always guaranteed Serbia's sovereignty?

What is the US at? Are they thick or what?
The US is 'peed off' because two thirds of UN members refuse to recognise the illegal,corrupt regime in Pristina (US installed, mind you).
The 'kosova' the US created is now coming back to bite them (terrorism/drugs) and they appear helpless. They also don't know how to make amends to Belgrade simply because they don't know how.

MB,Ireland

Well there you go. You cannot have independence because Res 1244 says so otherwise the Yanks would not be wanting to get rid of it.

A few nervous people in the oval office.

Is is crystal clear to our Albanian friends that Res 1244 has always guaranteed Serbia's sovereignty?
(Peggy, 5 May 2010 10:43)

Spot on Peggy. The Yanks are panicking and are using all attempts at circumventing international law even the UN Resolution 1244 that they signed up to. Serbia has the West in the 1244 bind and while that remains in place, Pristina's UDD is permamently on hold. The latest flurry of activity could be an indicator of an unfavourable ICJ result for the West.

It cannot not be changed without the nod from Belgrade. I have said it onece and I'll say it again, Belgrade has Washington by the short and curlies.

Whoever came up with Resolution 1244 deserves a medal. It was a stroke of genius.

Is is crystal clear to our Albanian friends that Res 1244 has always guaranteed Serbia's sovereignty?
(Peggy, 5 May 2010 10:43)

It depends how you interpret 1244. There are some loopholes that both sides can interpreted to its liking. Besides, something that is no longer functional, why keep it on paper. I can assure you that 1244 will be replaced with another resolution, which will supersede 1244. Time will tell.

Why do they want to change 1244? They said that in 1244 does not say that Kosovo is part of Serbia? Why bother changing then???

Serbia is violating the UN resolution 1244 because there is stated that Serbia should withdraw all institutions from Kosovo, but in reality Serbia continue to finance the police forces in Northern part of kosovo and there are still hospitals and schools that work under serbia direct finance.
(TOPI, 5 May 2010 12:04)

When will these bloody Serbs learn! trying to give ppl an education by funding schools and keep up the law by funding police!!! how are albanians meant to carry on with their corrupt drugs/ trafficking if their kids a taught otherwise and the police catch them?? Andd hospitals? NO comment! Only an k-albanian would complain about a government who is paying for the basic needs in a modern society- law, health and education!

Seriously!

this is first and foremost a slap in the face of all those among our dear k-albanian friends who were always "lecturing" about UNSCR 1244 being irrelevant, or not binding, or not being in effect for Serbia " because it was made for Yugoslavia, not Serbia" and other nonsense they used to write here.

one thing should be clear now even for them: UNSCR 1244 is in effect and says it quite clear.
KiM is Serbia. fullstop.

as for any kind of alleged "secret negotiations" ( I think it´s simple disinformation, aimed at pacifying the k-albanian youth ) that are allegedly underway "between Belgrade and Pristina" - don´t fool yourselves, the poeple of Serbia won´t accept any "deal" with terrorists and criminals.

just remember how Serbia rejected the pact with Germany, Italy and Japan...

then, it was "bolje rat nego pakt".

and in case Mr.Tadic should dare to abuse his constitutional rights like once Mr.Djindjic did - he should be prepared to leave the country the fastest way possible, because I am quite sure that would mean the end of his career in Serbia.

but Tadic won´t be that stupid, I guess.

Wise decision by the USA I hope the world will follow

This is - after Veton Surroi - the 2nd source which hints that there are either secret negotiations or soon to be. The upcoming summit in Sarajevo will be the first visual sign that there is movement in that matter.

It is also likely that the ICJ is also included/informed about the progress. It is also very interesting how Kesic forumlated the sentences here:

"Kesić told the daily that America expects Belgrade to agree to this once the International Court of Justice (ICJ) gives its opinion on the legality of Kosovo’s unilaterally proclaimed independence. "

And now here:

"This new UN resolution, which Washington supports, would cite the opinion of the ICJ, and it would be key for strengthening the independence of Kosovo."

Apparently, the recognition of the Kosovo independence is a made deal because it also includes the ICJ which ultimately will be the tomb stone of Serbia's fight for Kosovo. Only one thing remains to be seen, the boundaries. It is possible that Kosovo's borders will be changed slightly. Most likely, parts of the North-West will go to Serbia, while South Serbia, Presovo, will be intergrated into Kosovo.

The Blic report is actually a little bit longer. I don't understand B92 cutting some very decisive parts. Here the full text:

Overall, I would like to say that despite some developments the independence of Kosovo is the only practical solution. The 2 sources (Surroi and now Blic) just confirm it. I recommend all people to ignore all comments coming from Belgrade since their weak position in this by nationalism dominated society doesn't allow them to speak out different positions in that matters.

Serbia is violating the UN resolution 1244 because there is stated that Serbia should withdraw all institutions from Kosovo, but in reality Serbia continue to finance the police forces in Northern part of kosovo and there are still hospitals and schools that work under serbia direct finance.

It cannot not be changed without the nod from Belgrade. I have said it onece and I'll say it again, Belgrade has Washington by the short and curlies.

Whoever came up with Resolution 1244 deserves a medal. It was a stroke of genius.
(Niall O'Doherty, 5 May 2010 11:42)
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Niall, it was Russia with Milosevic that came up with 1244. That's why NATO did not win the war as Serbia's sovereignty had to be guaranteed before the province came under temporary UN administration.

Russia has always said that only Serbia can lose Kosovo - with the problem being trust in this current government. They are in cahoots with the EU and US so I wouldn't put it past them to sell-out even further.

B92, your censorship really goes beyond understanding at times. You need to keep your personal opinions and freedom of expression separated.

Fine.

End 1244 and establish a new democratic order under Serbia.

The udi rewards racist mono-ethnic ambition on the part of Albanians in Kosovo, so it was a bad idea to start with.

Serbia has turned towards a good future of economic recovery and peaceful cooperation.

Reunited and peacefully, Serbia and its little province of Kosovo can apply to join the EU and everyone will be happy ever after.

... and why not? ...

Oh yes ... that Albanian mono-ethnic ambition (as supported by the USofA).

while South Serbia, Presovo, will be intergrated into Kosovo.
(John, 5 May 2010 11:39)

In your dreams mate!

Well, based on the comments from the Albanian diasporas here, they're all on board. Not surprising. There's just a few small little problems that the rationally sane world might want to raise before charging the windmill:

1. How does my country intend to abolish UNSCR 1244 in the absence of a Russian/Chinese veto? I mean I suppose they can pass something on their own and pretend its valid like they’re doing with Kosovo-UNMIK now, but it's pretty rich at these so-called "experts" thinking Belgrade's going to jump at this in exchange for faster EU membership. This was tried at the Troika talks, and to no avail. And with the EU on the verge of bankruptcy having to bail out Greece, with Spain and Portugal closely next, and even Britain on the verge of bankruptcy, Belgrade is smart to stay out.

2. The US seems pretty bold in thinking it will have leverage to do this after an ICJ ruling. The Europeans seem to be of the mind that the ICJ forces Pristina back to the negotiating table for technical talks of decentralization at the very least. Washington, always thinking what it wants to think, surmises that this will finally "solidify" Kosovo's independence, when in fact the basic facets of sovereignty have been consistently absent in this region for over a decade.

If this is a joke, I got a chuckle. But if it's serious, then my country continues to follow the old worn out practice: if at first you don't succeed, bang your head against the wall harder until either the wall or your skull breaks.

Abolish UNSCR 1244? Let them try, there is a Russian veto waiting for them. End of story. Who comes up with this nonsense??
Cheers!

When did anyone agree to put the USA in charge of international law let alone the administration of UN resolutions? Will someone kindly inform the US that the affairs and sovereignty of Serbia, or any other country for that matter, are nothing at all to do with the US. I have three words to demonstrate how badly the US deals with foreign policy...Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. As usual with the US if things arent going their way they just assume they can pile in all guns blazing and just change things as they wish. Well the word veto and the rule of international law will, in any fair and just world, put paid to this ridiculous US idea. Tadic and Serbia have always maintained that UN acceptance will not come at the expense of UDI recognition. I for one believe that to be the right way to proceed and more power to Tadic and all Serbs for their principled and diplomatically intelligent approach to this issue. Lets hope that more can understand the validity of their approach in the months ahead.

I guess resolution 1244 is valid after all. I didn't take long for the americans to abandon their idea of an independent Kosovo. Then again the free world has spoken against this theft of Serbian land. Serbia wins yet another battle against its neighbours, this time peacefully. Everyone knows that there will be no peace without justice. The ICJ ruling will probably be interpreted both ways which means there will be new talks since the ICJ might conclude that no one is right and no one wrong. Kosovo is heading for a break up. After that is done I hope Serbia will build a huge wall seperating us from this black hole of poverty and crime.

“U.S. wants abolishment of UNSCR 1244”

It is NOT that USA wants but it is that Belgrade NEEDS this to move forward.

At the end of the day USA does what it wants. In its recent history it bombed many capitals (inc. Belgrade) day and nights without destructing international affairs.

It always amazes me how someone can say "Hello" and the Serbian posters here interpret it to say the West has realized that Kosovo is not independent. "

But you are really not independent! The truth it that you have become a slave of the West even though they used the sugar-coated term supervised independence (aka no deadline to their rule over you)

"1244 only covers mandates up to a final solution-America is saying that solution is here, not that "We have failed and Serbia has won".
(pss, 5 May 2010 14:43) "

Then why the American desperation to repeal 1244? You just contradicted yourself.

It always amazes me how someone can say "Hello" and the Serbian posters here interpret it to say the West has realized that Kosovo is not independent.
I am not even sure this is coming from the US but if it is note they say after the ICJ ruling-therefore it is believed that the ruling will give validity to the independence and resolution 1244 needs to be updated to provide for the progression of Kosovo. 1244 only covers mandates up to a final solution-America is saying that solution is here, not that "We have failed and Serbia has won".
The statement further confirms that everything Serbia has gained in the last 2 years is merely to alleviate the bitterness of the loss of Kosovo.
Personally, I do not want 1244 replaced yet because it is where NATO gets its mandate to protect Kosovo from any agression.
Zoran you criticize B92's censorship, you should try getting through from the other side of the fence.

Yet again the U.S is poking its nose in where it isn't wanted, in what amounts to little more than political blackmail.
As another poster stated, who made the U.S the governing body of UN and international law?
Hopefully the Serbian government and people will utterly reject this gangster-style demand, and not scarifice Kosovo for EU membership.

I'm not sure what the news is. Since the UDI US/EU/UK wanted 1244 abolished and the proof is their recognition of UDI.

In addition, what if this turns into a "Lajcak Plan", (there is a plan but does not exist such a plan)?

Or even better, what if that this is the only way for Serbia to enter EU? we know how hard Tadic dreams of this.

Than again if Serbia does not talk to Kosovo authorities at all, why they are negotiating incognito.

I wonder if the Irish duo MB and Niall know something more than the rest. They seem to be present in all major events pertaining Serbia and Kosovo.

The United States of Wind Bags is at it again.
My honest suggestion to the US is shut up, keep your head down low and think before opening your mouth and maybe after a long period of time you might be taken seriously. Like France and the UK your days as a superpower are over – finished, so please wake up and at least finish up on a good note so that history can be kind to you.

I think US Administration made its legal opinion clear regarding Kosova independence during the open hearing of the ICJ sessions. UNSC 1244 is also the basis for the declaration of the independence of Kosova. The declaration of independence clearly refers to 1244.

I think this whole talk (“Special Plan of Slovaks” – which they immediately officially denied, “Veton Surroi claiming there are Secret Negotiations going on”, “U.S. wants abolishment of UNSCR 1244” etc) is kind of “keep the Kosova topic hot to distract the Serbian public from day to day problems”.

Well Serbia’s FM will have to talk like this when in comes to Kosova, otherwise he would loose his job :-)

By recognizing 1244 has a problem, you recognize Kosovo being apart of Serbia.

Thank you USA.

Peteko: "I love Blic. You can say anything nowadays and have the Serbs and Albanians go crazy over it."

- That's because you are talking about people's homes, land and lives at a crucial time when change is in the air. I can only imagine the level of 'heightened tensions' there would be if there was annexation of US, German or French territory supported by outside parties.



"DC is not going to scrap 1244."

- Do you really honestly believe they could??


"The independence of K is considered a legal consequence of 1244. It would go against the legal arguments presented in The Hague."

- It is the very fact that this argument is so weak which would lead some to try and bypass the whole ICJ process.


"It is EU that should come up with a form of membership that would allow two countries that don't recognize each-other."

- You speak as though the province of Kosovo is on equal footing in terms of membership as the legally recognised UN member state of Serbia. It's not a point of view, but a fact that one is a country and the other is a UN protectorate.

If you don't mind me saying, Peteko, maybe I am misreading, but it does sound like you are looking down at the 'natives' with a real air of superiority.

I love Blic. You can say anything nowadays and have the Serbs and Albanians go crazy over it.

DC is not going to scrap 1244. The independence of K is considered a legal consequence of 1244. It would go against the legal arguments presented in The Hague.

Nevertheless, this is a EU problem now. US can only help minimally. It is EU that should come up with a form of membership that would allow two countries that don't recognize each-other. For now, look for Sarajevo summit and others like it. There hide the hints.

At the end of the day USA does what it wants. In its recent history it bombed many capitals (inc. Belgrade) day and nights without destructing international affairs.
(PRN, 5 May 2010 14:38)
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You paint a very nice picture of USA.
You know the saying:
You can do whatever you want but not for as long as you want.
US's days of aggression are coming to an end.

I believe that there was no winners in that war, what followed was inevitable. If NATO wanted to hurt Serbia we all know that millions would be dead and Afganistatn would have been a paradise in contrast. Same goes for Kosovo, if Serbia wanted to at least 2 mil would have been dead. Now, after all the killing and destruction to call it a victory by any side is beyond my comprehension.

I have another three to demonstrate exactly the opposite, you would-be-speaking-Russian-or-German-so-and-so: The Marshall Plan!
(Hegemon, 6 May 2010 18:20)
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Stop watching B grade American war movies. Americans did NOT liberate Europe.
You are closer to the truth in the Pacific. We would be all speaking Japanese here if it were not for that big war crime called the A bomb on Japan.
Americans like to make it look like they did more than they actually did and the world owes them for their freedom.
Facts are quite different if you choose to get an education outside Hollywood.

Whoever came up with Resolution 1244 deserves a medal. It was a stroke of genius.
(Niall O'Doherty, 5 May 2010 11:42)

Niall- I’ve noticed your supportive comments on B92 and I\we Serbs do certainly appreciate them but I would hardly call 1244 a stroke of genius. That document was paid for in blood. We should all spare a thought for the deceased and living members of the VJ and Serb MUP who fought NATO to a standstill whilst booting the KLA and its supporters back to where it belongs. Remember that K-Albs- the KLA did not win the war. You can't have independence without bleeding.

It's about time....
A wake-up call to Serbia,to stop dreaming of a land they never had and never gonna get.

Serbia should stop manipulation there citizens,and should stop holding hostage Serbs in kosovo.
(Pan)
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A wake up call for who?

This is a wake up call to the US/EU and the Serbo-albanos. Without Serbia, you cannot go anywhere with your so called "independance". Now it is time for YOU to wake up.

1244 still stands, even according to your masters in Washington. This is their desprete act to try to clean up the mess they started, by supporting an illegal declaration act of independance.

Kosovo is Serbia, even the US sees this now, by recognizing that 1244 is indeed a problem. Good day to you :)

Fact: If NATO actually defeated Serbia in '99, 1244 wouldn't exist. 'Unfortunately', Serbia forced the US back to the negotiating table - I guess the US figured they'd go in guns blazing lol. Oh well, hang 'em high cowboy yee-haw!

Oh yes hypocrite Americans... first - they illegally created separatist pseudostate on the territory of Republic of Serbia and today they want to Serbia recognize it for money, like Judas...

No way!!

@Hegemon,
By the end of world war 2, 90% of the German military machine was discovered to have been annihilated on the "eastern front", y'know, the front you didn't participate in?

The European soil will be a much nicer place to live the day the European Union will tell the US to take care of own business and stay aaway from internal European and EU affairs.

Like France and the UK your days as a superpower are over – finished, so please wake up and at least finish up on a good note so that history can be kind to you.
(sj, 6 May 2010 01:01)

sj,

Do you mean like Serbia or Russia, the former only imagining itself an ex-superpower whereas the latter in fact was once a superpower.

It's about time....
A wake-up call to Serbia,to stop dreaming of a land they never had and never gonna get.

Serbia should stop manipulation there citizens,and should stop holding hostage Serbs in kosovo.

"Stop watching B grade American war movies. Americans did NOT liberate Europe... Facts are quite different if you choose to get an education outside Hollywood."
(Peggy, 7 May 2010 04:35)

"By the end of world war 2, 90% of the German military machine was discovered to have been annihilated on the "eastern front", y'know, the front you didn't participate in?"
(care, 7 May 2010 01:59)

Just thought I'd re-post the above cause they're precious! :-)

Thanks for the educational advice Peggy! I might try and see what it's like to be you and take your advice and steer well clear of American war movies... While I'm at it, I'll just ignore history and IR textbooks, documentaries and that kind of useless stuff, too... Perhaps then I'll realise that the world was emancipated by Stalin's enlightened foreign policy approach.

"I have three words to demonstrate how badly the US deals with foreign policy...Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan."
(UK, 5 May 2010 18:07)

I have another three to demonstrate exactly the opposite, you would-be-speaking-Russian-or-German-so-and-so: The Marshall Plan!

USA, I thank you for finally recognizing that Kosovo is Serbia.

The Serbian people are proud.

Do you mean like Serbia or Russia, the former only imagining itself an ex-superpower whereas the latter in fact was once a superpower.
(Jim Wicks, 6 May 2010 08:31)

Actually the former has been proudly regarded as a David, amongst Goliaths.

when you got nothing to counter... you write answers like "Hegemon" wrote to Peggy.

really impressive.

actually, she shouldn´t even think to give an answer...

Wise decision by the USA I hope the world will follow

Serbia is violating the UN resolution 1244 because there is stated that Serbia should withdraw all institutions from Kosovo, but in reality Serbia continue to finance the police forces in Northern part of kosovo and there are still hospitals and schools that work under serbia direct finance.

Well there you go. You cannot have independence because Res 1244 says so otherwise the Yanks would not be wanting to get rid of it.

A few nervous people in the oval office.

Is is crystal clear to our Albanian friends that Res 1244 has always guaranteed Serbia's sovereignty?

Is is crystal clear to our Albanian friends that Res 1244 has always guaranteed Serbia's sovereignty?
(Peggy, 5 May 2010 10:43)

It depends how you interpret 1244. There are some loopholes that both sides can interpreted to its liking. Besides, something that is no longer functional, why keep it on paper. I can assure you that 1244 will be replaced with another resolution, which will supersede 1244. Time will tell.

What is the US at? Are they thick or what?
The US is 'peed off' because two thirds of UN members refuse to recognise the illegal,corrupt regime in Pristina (US installed, mind you).
The 'kosova' the US created is now coming back to bite them (terrorism/drugs) and they appear helpless. They also don't know how to make amends to Belgrade simply because they don't know how.

MB,Ireland

“U.S. wants abolishment of UNSCR 1244”

It is NOT that USA wants but it is that Belgrade NEEDS this to move forward.

At the end of the day USA does what it wants. In its recent history it bombed many capitals (inc. Belgrade) day and nights without destructing international affairs.

Well there you go. You cannot have independence because Res 1244 says so otherwise the Yanks would not be wanting to get rid of it.

A few nervous people in the oval office.

Is is crystal clear to our Albanian friends that Res 1244 has always guaranteed Serbia's sovereignty?
(Peggy, 5 May 2010 10:43)

Spot on Peggy. The Yanks are panicking and are using all attempts at circumventing international law even the UN Resolution 1244 that they signed up to. Serbia has the West in the 1244 bind and while that remains in place, Pristina's UDD is permamently on hold. The latest flurry of activity could be an indicator of an unfavourable ICJ result for the West.

It cannot not be changed without the nod from Belgrade. I have said it onece and I'll say it again, Belgrade has Washington by the short and curlies.

Whoever came up with Resolution 1244 deserves a medal. It was a stroke of genius.

This is - after Veton Surroi - the 2nd source which hints that there are either secret negotiations or soon to be. The upcoming summit in Sarajevo will be the first visual sign that there is movement in that matter.

It is also likely that the ICJ is also included/informed about the progress. It is also very interesting how Kesic forumlated the sentences here:

"Kesić told the daily that America expects Belgrade to agree to this once the International Court of Justice (ICJ) gives its opinion on the legality of Kosovo’s unilaterally proclaimed independence. "

And now here:

"This new UN resolution, which Washington supports, would cite the opinion of the ICJ, and it would be key for strengthening the independence of Kosovo."

Apparently, the recognition of the Kosovo independence is a made deal because it also includes the ICJ which ultimately will be the tomb stone of Serbia's fight for Kosovo. Only one thing remains to be seen, the boundaries. It is possible that Kosovo's borders will be changed slightly. Most likely, parts of the North-West will go to Serbia, while South Serbia, Presovo, will be intergrated into Kosovo.

The Blic report is actually a little bit longer. I don't understand B92 cutting some very decisive parts. Here the full text:

Overall, I would like to say that despite some developments the independence of Kosovo is the only practical solution. The 2 sources (Surroi and now Blic) just confirm it. I recommend all people to ignore all comments coming from Belgrade since their weak position in this by nationalism dominated society doesn't allow them to speak out different positions in that matters.

It always amazes me how someone can say "Hello" and the Serbian posters here interpret it to say the West has realized that Kosovo is not independent.
I am not even sure this is coming from the US but if it is note they say after the ICJ ruling-therefore it is believed that the ruling will give validity to the independence and resolution 1244 needs to be updated to provide for the progression of Kosovo. 1244 only covers mandates up to a final solution-America is saying that solution is here, not that "We have failed and Serbia has won".
The statement further confirms that everything Serbia has gained in the last 2 years is merely to alleviate the bitterness of the loss of Kosovo.
Personally, I do not want 1244 replaced yet because it is where NATO gets its mandate to protect Kosovo from any agression.
Zoran you criticize B92's censorship, you should try getting through from the other side of the fence.

I think US Administration made its legal opinion clear regarding Kosova independence during the open hearing of the ICJ sessions. UNSC 1244 is also the basis for the declaration of the independence of Kosova. The declaration of independence clearly refers to 1244.

I think this whole talk (“Special Plan of Slovaks” – which they immediately officially denied, “Veton Surroi claiming there are Secret Negotiations going on”, “U.S. wants abolishment of UNSCR 1244” etc) is kind of “keep the Kosova topic hot to distract the Serbian public from day to day problems”.

Well Serbia’s FM will have to talk like this when in comes to Kosova, otherwise he would loose his job :-)

Why do they want to change 1244? They said that in 1244 does not say that Kosovo is part of Serbia? Why bother changing then???

Fine.

End 1244 and establish a new democratic order under Serbia.

The udi rewards racist mono-ethnic ambition on the part of Albanians in Kosovo, so it was a bad idea to start with.

Serbia has turned towards a good future of economic recovery and peaceful cooperation.

Reunited and peacefully, Serbia and its little province of Kosovo can apply to join the EU and everyone will be happy ever after.

... and why not? ...

Oh yes ... that Albanian mono-ethnic ambition (as supported by the USofA).

Abolish UNSCR 1244? Let them try, there is a Russian veto waiting for them. End of story. Who comes up with this nonsense??
Cheers!

Serbia is violating the UN resolution 1244 because there is stated that Serbia should withdraw all institutions from Kosovo, but in reality Serbia continue to finance the police forces in Northern part of kosovo and there are still hospitals and schools that work under serbia direct finance.
(TOPI, 5 May 2010 12:04)

When will these bloody Serbs learn! trying to give ppl an education by funding schools and keep up the law by funding police!!! how are albanians meant to carry on with their corrupt drugs/ trafficking if their kids a taught otherwise and the police catch them?? Andd hospitals? NO comment! Only an k-albanian would complain about a government who is paying for the basic needs in a modern society- law, health and education!

Seriously!

It always amazes me how someone can say "Hello" and the Serbian posters here interpret it to say the West has realized that Kosovo is not independent. "

But you are really not independent! The truth it that you have become a slave of the West even though they used the sugar-coated term supervised independence (aka no deadline to their rule over you)

"1244 only covers mandates up to a final solution-America is saying that solution is here, not that "We have failed and Serbia has won".
(pss, 5 May 2010 14:43) "

Then why the American desperation to repeal 1244? You just contradicted yourself.

I guess resolution 1244 is valid after all. I didn't take long for the americans to abandon their idea of an independent Kosovo. Then again the free world has spoken against this theft of Serbian land. Serbia wins yet another battle against its neighbours, this time peacefully. Everyone knows that there will be no peace without justice. The ICJ ruling will probably be interpreted both ways which means there will be new talks since the ICJ might conclude that no one is right and no one wrong. Kosovo is heading for a break up. After that is done I hope Serbia will build a huge wall seperating us from this black hole of poverty and crime.

while South Serbia, Presovo, will be intergrated into Kosovo.
(John, 5 May 2010 11:39)

In your dreams mate!

this is first and foremost a slap in the face of all those among our dear k-albanian friends who were always "lecturing" about UNSCR 1244 being irrelevant, or not binding, or not being in effect for Serbia " because it was made for Yugoslavia, not Serbia" and other nonsense they used to write here.

one thing should be clear now even for them: UNSCR 1244 is in effect and says it quite clear.
KiM is Serbia. fullstop.

as for any kind of alleged "secret negotiations" ( I think it´s simple disinformation, aimed at pacifying the k-albanian youth ) that are allegedly underway "between Belgrade and Pristina" - don´t fool yourselves, the poeple of Serbia won´t accept any "deal" with terrorists and criminals.

just remember how Serbia rejected the pact with Germany, Italy and Japan...

then, it was "bolje rat nego pakt".

and in case Mr.Tadic should dare to abuse his constitutional rights like once Mr.Djindjic did - he should be prepared to leave the country the fastest way possible, because I am quite sure that would mean the end of his career in Serbia.

but Tadic won´t be that stupid, I guess.

I'm not sure what the news is. Since the UDI US/EU/UK wanted 1244 abolished and the proof is their recognition of UDI.

In addition, what if this turns into a "Lajcak Plan", (there is a plan but does not exist such a plan)?

Or even better, what if that this is the only way for Serbia to enter EU? we know how hard Tadic dreams of this.

Than again if Serbia does not talk to Kosovo authorities at all, why they are negotiating incognito.

I wonder if the Irish duo MB and Niall know something more than the rest. They seem to be present in all major events pertaining Serbia and Kosovo.

It cannot not be changed without the nod from Belgrade. I have said it onece and I'll say it again, Belgrade has Washington by the short and curlies.

Whoever came up with Resolution 1244 deserves a medal. It was a stroke of genius.
(Niall O'Doherty, 5 May 2010 11:42)
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Niall, it was Russia with Milosevic that came up with 1244. That's why NATO did not win the war as Serbia's sovereignty had to be guaranteed before the province came under temporary UN administration.

Russia has always said that only Serbia can lose Kosovo - with the problem being trust in this current government. They are in cahoots with the EU and US so I wouldn't put it past them to sell-out even further.

B92, your censorship really goes beyond understanding at times. You need to keep your personal opinions and freedom of expression separated.

Well, based on the comments from the Albanian diasporas here, they're all on board. Not surprising. There's just a few small little problems that the rationally sane world might want to raise before charging the windmill:

1. How does my country intend to abolish UNSCR 1244 in the absence of a Russian/Chinese veto? I mean I suppose they can pass something on their own and pretend its valid like they’re doing with Kosovo-UNMIK now, but it's pretty rich at these so-called "experts" thinking Belgrade's going to jump at this in exchange for faster EU membership. This was tried at the Troika talks, and to no avail. And with the EU on the verge of bankruptcy having to bail out Greece, with Spain and Portugal closely next, and even Britain on the verge of bankruptcy, Belgrade is smart to stay out.

2. The US seems pretty bold in thinking it will have leverage to do this after an ICJ ruling. The Europeans seem to be of the mind that the ICJ forces Pristina back to the negotiating table for technical talks of decentralization at the very least. Washington, always thinking what it wants to think, surmises that this will finally "solidify" Kosovo's independence, when in fact the basic facets of sovereignty have been consistently absent in this region for over a decade.

If this is a joke, I got a chuckle. But if it's serious, then my country continues to follow the old worn out practice: if at first you don't succeed, bang your head against the wall harder until either the wall or your skull breaks.

When did anyone agree to put the USA in charge of international law let alone the administration of UN resolutions? Will someone kindly inform the US that the affairs and sovereignty of Serbia, or any other country for that matter, are nothing at all to do with the US. I have three words to demonstrate how badly the US deals with foreign policy...Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. As usual with the US if things arent going their way they just assume they can pile in all guns blazing and just change things as they wish. Well the word veto and the rule of international law will, in any fair and just world, put paid to this ridiculous US idea. Tadic and Serbia have always maintained that UN acceptance will not come at the expense of UDI recognition. I for one believe that to be the right way to proceed and more power to Tadic and all Serbs for their principled and diplomatically intelligent approach to this issue. Lets hope that more can understand the validity of their approach in the months ahead.

Yet again the U.S is poking its nose in where it isn't wanted, in what amounts to little more than political blackmail.
As another poster stated, who made the U.S the governing body of UN and international law?
Hopefully the Serbian government and people will utterly reject this gangster-style demand, and not scarifice Kosovo for EU membership.

I love Blic. You can say anything nowadays and have the Serbs and Albanians go crazy over it.

DC is not going to scrap 1244. The independence of K is considered a legal consequence of 1244. It would go against the legal arguments presented in The Hague.

Nevertheless, this is a EU problem now. US can only help minimally. It is EU that should come up with a form of membership that would allow two countries that don't recognize each-other. For now, look for Sarajevo summit and others like it. There hide the hints.

The United States of Wind Bags is at it again.
My honest suggestion to the US is shut up, keep your head down low and think before opening your mouth and maybe after a long period of time you might be taken seriously. Like France and the UK your days as a superpower are over – finished, so please wake up and at least finish up on a good note so that history can be kind to you.

Like France and the UK your days as a superpower are over – finished, so please wake up and at least finish up on a good note so that history can be kind to you.
(sj, 6 May 2010 01:01)

sj,

Do you mean like Serbia or Russia, the former only imagining itself an ex-superpower whereas the latter in fact was once a superpower.

Fact: If NATO actually defeated Serbia in '99, 1244 wouldn't exist. 'Unfortunately', Serbia forced the US back to the negotiating table - I guess the US figured they'd go in guns blazing lol. Oh well, hang 'em high cowboy yee-haw!

At the end of the day USA does what it wants. In its recent history it bombed many capitals (inc. Belgrade) day and nights without destructing international affairs.
(PRN, 5 May 2010 14:38)
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You paint a very nice picture of USA.
You know the saying:
You can do whatever you want but not for as long as you want.
US's days of aggression are coming to an end.

It's about time....
A wake-up call to Serbia,to stop dreaming of a land they never had and never gonna get.

Serbia should stop manipulation there citizens,and should stop holding hostage Serbs in kosovo.

"Stop watching B grade American war movies. Americans did NOT liberate Europe... Facts are quite different if you choose to get an education outside Hollywood."
(Peggy, 7 May 2010 04:35)

"By the end of world war 2, 90% of the German military machine was discovered to have been annihilated on the "eastern front", y'know, the front you didn't participate in?"
(care, 7 May 2010 01:59)

Just thought I'd re-post the above cause they're precious! :-)

Thanks for the educational advice Peggy! I might try and see what it's like to be you and take your advice and steer well clear of American war movies... While I'm at it, I'll just ignore history and IR textbooks, documentaries and that kind of useless stuff, too... Perhaps then I'll realise that the world was emancipated by Stalin's enlightened foreign policy approach.

Whoever came up with Resolution 1244 deserves a medal. It was a stroke of genius.
(Niall O'Doherty, 5 May 2010 11:42)

Niall- I’ve noticed your supportive comments on B92 and I\we Serbs do certainly appreciate them but I would hardly call 1244 a stroke of genius. That document was paid for in blood. We should all spare a thought for the deceased and living members of the VJ and Serb MUP who fought NATO to a standstill whilst booting the KLA and its supporters back to where it belongs. Remember that K-Albs- the KLA did not win the war. You can't have independence without bleeding.

Oh yes hypocrite Americans... first - they illegally created separatist pseudostate on the territory of Republic of Serbia and today they want to Serbia recognize it for money, like Judas...

No way!!

I have another three to demonstrate exactly the opposite, you would-be-speaking-Russian-or-German-so-and-so: The Marshall Plan!
(Hegemon, 6 May 2010 18:20)
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Stop watching B grade American war movies. Americans did NOT liberate Europe.
You are closer to the truth in the Pacific. We would be all speaking Japanese here if it were not for that big war crime called the A bomb on Japan.
Americans like to make it look like they did more than they actually did and the world owes them for their freedom.
Facts are quite different if you choose to get an education outside Hollywood.

The European soil will be a much nicer place to live the day the European Union will tell the US to take care of own business and stay aaway from internal European and EU affairs.

I believe that there was no winners in that war, what followed was inevitable. If NATO wanted to hurt Serbia we all know that millions would be dead and Afganistatn would have been a paradise in contrast. Same goes for Kosovo, if Serbia wanted to at least 2 mil would have been dead. Now, after all the killing and destruction to call it a victory by any side is beyond my comprehension.

"I have three words to demonstrate how badly the US deals with foreign policy...Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan."
(UK, 5 May 2010 18:07)

I have another three to demonstrate exactly the opposite, you would-be-speaking-Russian-or-German-so-and-so: The Marshall Plan!

It's about time....
A wake-up call to Serbia,to stop dreaming of a land they never had and never gonna get.

Serbia should stop manipulation there citizens,and should stop holding hostage Serbs in kosovo.
(Pan)
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A wake up call for who?

This is a wake up call to the US/EU and the Serbo-albanos. Without Serbia, you cannot go anywhere with your so called "independance". Now it is time for YOU to wake up.

1244 still stands, even according to your masters in Washington. This is their desprete act to try to clean up the mess they started, by supporting an illegal declaration act of independance.

Kosovo is Serbia, even the US sees this now, by recognizing that 1244 is indeed a problem. Good day to you :)

Peteko: "I love Blic. You can say anything nowadays and have the Serbs and Albanians go crazy over it."

- That's because you are talking about people's homes, land and lives at a crucial time when change is in the air. I can only imagine the level of 'heightened tensions' there would be if there was annexation of US, German or French territory supported by outside parties.



"DC is not going to scrap 1244."

- Do you really honestly believe they could??


"The independence of K is considered a legal consequence of 1244. It would go against the legal arguments presented in The Hague."

- It is the very fact that this argument is so weak which would lead some to try and bypass the whole ICJ process.


"It is EU that should come up with a form of membership that would allow two countries that don't recognize each-other."

- You speak as though the province of Kosovo is on equal footing in terms of membership as the legally recognised UN member state of Serbia. It's not a point of view, but a fact that one is a country and the other is a UN protectorate.

If you don't mind me saying, Peteko, maybe I am misreading, but it does sound like you are looking down at the 'natives' with a real air of superiority.

By recognizing 1244 has a problem, you recognize Kosovo being apart of Serbia.

Thank you USA.

@Hegemon,
By the end of world war 2, 90% of the German military machine was discovered to have been annihilated on the "eastern front", y'know, the front you didn't participate in?

when you got nothing to counter... you write answers like "Hegemon" wrote to Peggy.

really impressive.

actually, she shouldn´t even think to give an answer...

USA, I thank you for finally recognizing that Kosovo is Serbia.

The Serbian people are proud.

Do you mean like Serbia or Russia, the former only imagining itself an ex-superpower whereas the latter in fact was once a superpower.
(Jim Wicks, 6 May 2010 08:31)

Actually the former has been proudly regarded as a David, amongst Goliaths.