Lajčak prepares plan for Kosovo

EU´s ministers now know that the outcome from ICJ will be in Serbias favour. Thats why it is so quiet about Kosovo. Everyone is thinking how to proceed when there will be 10-15 withdraws from recognition and Kosovo will be left aside. It seems like the K Albanians opened the champagne bottle just a little bit to early.

Here we go. western europe trying to save face when the majority of the ICJ judges reject the UDI and invalidate the west's balkan policy of the last 20 years. kosovo cannot enter the UN without approval of the Security Council and both Russia and China will VETO any resolution admitting kosovo, even if tadicoman traded it for eu admission before being forced from office. The west cannot bear to swallow its arrogance and pride and publicly admit 1) kosovo is nothing without Serbia's help and 2)the west is going to have to give concessions to the Serbs. The us thought it could just demonize the Serbs and force its will, but that just did not work out. This dispute was never just Serbs vs albanians. It was always Serbs vs america and we all know how to win against america (just ask the Vietnamese): never give up!

Janjić reminded that such a model, in which states were UN members and participated in the work of the UN but did not have a vote, was successfully implemented during the cold war on Ukraine, Belarus, and even East Germany and later the Palestinian movement.
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How long before Kosovo becomes a legitimate country with a membership in the UN?
Those countries are sovereign now so how can this be a solution unless you expect full recognition some time down the track?

You might as well recognise Kosovo now instead of trying to deceive the people of Serbia first.

He said that a better idea would be the one proposed by the French earlier for Serbia entering the EU and Kosovo joining the UN, but without the recognition of independence.

hmm, after all there are strings attached for Serbia joining EU. Actually, this is not the only one.

Slovakia,Spain,Romania,Cyprus,Greece can come up with all the plans that they want but nothing will take away the stance that they are undermining the efforts of the majority of EU members to solve the Kosovo problem.

1) kosovo is nothing without Serbia's help
(JohnBoy)

By kicking Kosovo's people from job first (remb.1989), then stating burning houses and killing it's people (remb.1999).

In 2009 we are free at last!

- JohnBoy, when were you born? EU doesn’t have to demonize anything – Serbia is the part to clean up its heritage by acting reasonably. Let us do not pretend that nothing has happened just a decade ago.
- To staff – what did you wait up to now? Since seem that you are a predictor, why are you maltreating us to wait for an outcome that you already know!
- Eventually, let us take a grip to a subject; I think that Mr. Lajcak is now coming up with possible solutions influenced by Greece; In fact Mr. Lajcak is now aware of the position opposing most powerful EU and International factors. So I’ll come with a prediction that I believe will soon become a fact; Slovakia is the next EU member to recognize Kosovo independence.

EU´s ministers now know that the outcome from ICJ will be in Serbias favour. Thats why it is so quiet about Kosovo. Everyone is thinking how to proceed when there will be 10-15 withdraws from recognition and Kosovo will be left aside. It seems like the K Albanians opened the champagne bottle just a little bit to early.
(Staff, 2 May 2010 19:05)

Staff,
I respectfully disagree. What Serbia did was open a can of worms by asking for a ruling of status. No matter what the outcome is, there is no reversing Kosovo independence. Serbia can refuse to recognize Kosovo, but must agree to cooperate or else no EU membership. That alone will cause further humiliation for Serbia. The EU's handwriting is on the wall.

Unfortunately for this Slovakian gentleman the plan sounds quite ridiculous. It's like saying that not having a foundation is no reason to stop building.

Serbia has permanently been clear and consistent that if it goes down to EU vs. Kosovo then it's country first, then the EU.

Of all comments seen here, Bob sounds most realistic. Let's face it, Serbia has no reason and no means to let Kosovo go. The West (and the rest) must swallow this as their own bitter pill: Kosovo is already a frozen conflict, in Europe. Maybe one day they'll learn how to stop interfering.

"Lajčak’s Slovakia has not recognized Kosovo’s independence". Nice sentence. Let´s hope that Non-Lajčak’s Slovakia will recognize soon Kosovo’s independence. Very interesting fact that Serbia is asking for help "small" countries of EU with no significance in the foreign policy, but acceptable for all the parties. The only profit in this scenario I see to open a new position for Lajčak itsel who is probably "unemployed" in Pressburg where nothing exiting is going on. I very much hope he learned the lesson in Sarajevo that any "special" envoy will not resolve the problems of the people living in the region.

Sounds too hopeful to me.

There is a joke about law - the joke is that the law today is not the law we had yesterday. Law is there to suppress and control, not to reflect any absolute and unchangeable view of the universe.

The ICJ will essentially say that the law yesterday is not the same as the law today. The joke is being played on Serbia.

Serbia believes strongly in the status of its province - the question for Serbia is not how to find a compromise, the question is how to live with the humiliation of being bombed out of its own front room.

There is no particular reason for Serbia to let Kosovo out of the pit it is in. Cooperation is essentially continuing the status quo, whereas the status quo is not acceptable to Serbia.

The best solution for Kosovo will be recognition of its sovereignty as an integral part of Serbia, that is sovereignty without independence. This solution will allow the residents of Kosovo, both of Serbian and Albanian ethnicity, jointly determine their affairs.

As I understand Slovak proposal, they offer a similar proposal. Hopefully, Slovak proposal will be accepted by all sides.

And what would Serbia gain if this plan were to succed??? Nothing, so I am having problems seeing why Serbia should even bother with such a plan that offer nothing for them.

Three weeks ago I attended a lecture by Peter Feith. He said that after the ICJ verdict the pressure on Serbia to be "cooperative" on Kosovo will be sharply increased. Giving Lajcak the job of designing the exact policy may be a smart move to get the countries that do not recognize Kosovo on board for this policy.

Problem with this policy is that it supposes at least some level of "cooperation" from the side of Kosovo. Kosovo's recent shutdwon of the mobile phone services and radio stations in the enclaves suggests that Kosovo wants confrontation, not cooperation.

Problem with this policy is that it supposes at least some level of "cooperation" from the side of Kosovo. Kosovo's recent shutdwon of the mobile phone services and radio stations in the enclaves suggests that Kosovo wants confrontation, not cooperation.
(Wim Roffel, 3 May 2010 12:19)

If stopping criminal acts in progress means confrontation, so be it.

Mark wrote: “Slovakia, Spain, Romania, Cyprus, Greece [...] are undermining the efforts of the majority of EU members to solve the Kosovo problem.”

To solve the Kosovo problem? Mark, to solve what?

Kosovars ask for co-operation with Serbia and at the same time call Belgrade similar to Milosevic's government. In a same sentence they want something from Belgrade and pronounce being happiest having nothing to do with Belgrade. They are “free”, as they say. So why not to concentrate on building the happy land together with those who supported their UDI? I don't see Serbia pushing itself in bed with Kosovo and USA, or with Kosovo and Germany.

As far as I can hear the tune is “Kosovo is a done deal”. Build on this and stop sobbing.

"Lajčak’s Slovakia has not recognized Kosovo’s independence". Nice sentence. Let´s hope that Non-Lajčak’s Slovakia will recognize soon Kosovo’s independence. Very interesting fact that Serbia is asking for help "small" countries of EU with no significance in the foreign policy, but acceptable for all the parties. The only profit in this scenario I see to open a new position for Lajčak itsel who is probably "unemployed" in Pressburg where nothing exiting is going on. I very much hope he learned the lesson in Sarajevo that any "special" envoy will not resolve the problems of the people living in the region.

The best solution for Kosovo will be recognition of its sovereignty as an integral part of Serbia, that is sovereignty without independence. This solution will allow the residents of Kosovo, both of Serbian and Albanian ethnicity, jointly determine their affairs.

As I understand Slovak proposal, they offer a similar proposal. Hopefully, Slovak proposal will be accepted by all sides.

He said that a better idea would be the one proposed by the French earlier for Serbia entering the EU and Kosovo joining the UN, but without the recognition of independence.

hmm, after all there are strings attached for Serbia joining EU. Actually, this is not the only one.

EU´s ministers now know that the outcome from ICJ will be in Serbias favour. Thats why it is so quiet about Kosovo. Everyone is thinking how to proceed when there will be 10-15 withdraws from recognition and Kosovo will be left aside. It seems like the K Albanians opened the champagne bottle just a little bit to early.

Slovakia,Spain,Romania,Cyprus,Greece can come up with all the plans that they want but nothing will take away the stance that they are undermining the efforts of the majority of EU members to solve the Kosovo problem.

Here we go. western europe trying to save face when the majority of the ICJ judges reject the UDI and invalidate the west's balkan policy of the last 20 years. kosovo cannot enter the UN without approval of the Security Council and both Russia and China will VETO any resolution admitting kosovo, even if tadicoman traded it for eu admission before being forced from office. The west cannot bear to swallow its arrogance and pride and publicly admit 1) kosovo is nothing without Serbia's help and 2)the west is going to have to give concessions to the Serbs. The us thought it could just demonize the Serbs and force its will, but that just did not work out. This dispute was never just Serbs vs albanians. It was always Serbs vs america and we all know how to win against america (just ask the Vietnamese): never give up!

- JohnBoy, when were you born? EU doesn’t have to demonize anything – Serbia is the part to clean up its heritage by acting reasonably. Let us do not pretend that nothing has happened just a decade ago.
- To staff – what did you wait up to now? Since seem that you are a predictor, why are you maltreating us to wait for an outcome that you already know!
- Eventually, let us take a grip to a subject; I think that Mr. Lajcak is now coming up with possible solutions influenced by Greece; In fact Mr. Lajcak is now aware of the position opposing most powerful EU and International factors. So I’ll come with a prediction that I believe will soon become a fact; Slovakia is the next EU member to recognize Kosovo independence.

Sounds too hopeful to me.

There is a joke about law - the joke is that the law today is not the law we had yesterday. Law is there to suppress and control, not to reflect any absolute and unchangeable view of the universe.

The ICJ will essentially say that the law yesterday is not the same as the law today. The joke is being played on Serbia.

Serbia believes strongly in the status of its province - the question for Serbia is not how to find a compromise, the question is how to live with the humiliation of being bombed out of its own front room.

There is no particular reason for Serbia to let Kosovo out of the pit it is in. Cooperation is essentially continuing the status quo, whereas the status quo is not acceptable to Serbia.

Janjić reminded that such a model, in which states were UN members and participated in the work of the UN but did not have a vote, was successfully implemented during the cold war on Ukraine, Belarus, and even East Germany and later the Palestinian movement.
=====================

How long before Kosovo becomes a legitimate country with a membership in the UN?
Those countries are sovereign now so how can this be a solution unless you expect full recognition some time down the track?

You might as well recognise Kosovo now instead of trying to deceive the people of Serbia first.

EU´s ministers now know that the outcome from ICJ will be in Serbias favour. Thats why it is so quiet about Kosovo. Everyone is thinking how to proceed when there will be 10-15 withdraws from recognition and Kosovo will be left aside. It seems like the K Albanians opened the champagne bottle just a little bit to early.
(Staff, 2 May 2010 19:05)

Staff,
I respectfully disagree. What Serbia did was open a can of worms by asking for a ruling of status. No matter what the outcome is, there is no reversing Kosovo independence. Serbia can refuse to recognize Kosovo, but must agree to cooperate or else no EU membership. That alone will cause further humiliation for Serbia. The EU's handwriting is on the wall.

And what would Serbia gain if this plan were to succed??? Nothing, so I am having problems seeing why Serbia should even bother with such a plan that offer nothing for them.

1) kosovo is nothing without Serbia's help
(JohnBoy)

By kicking Kosovo's people from job first (remb.1989), then stating burning houses and killing it's people (remb.1999).

In 2009 we are free at last!

Three weeks ago I attended a lecture by Peter Feith. He said that after the ICJ verdict the pressure on Serbia to be "cooperative" on Kosovo will be sharply increased. Giving Lajcak the job of designing the exact policy may be a smart move to get the countries that do not recognize Kosovo on board for this policy.

Problem with this policy is that it supposes at least some level of "cooperation" from the side of Kosovo. Kosovo's recent shutdwon of the mobile phone services and radio stations in the enclaves suggests that Kosovo wants confrontation, not cooperation.

Unfortunately for this Slovakian gentleman the plan sounds quite ridiculous. It's like saying that not having a foundation is no reason to stop building.

Serbia has permanently been clear and consistent that if it goes down to EU vs. Kosovo then it's country first, then the EU.

Of all comments seen here, Bob sounds most realistic. Let's face it, Serbia has no reason and no means to let Kosovo go. The West (and the rest) must swallow this as their own bitter pill: Kosovo is already a frozen conflict, in Europe. Maybe one day they'll learn how to stop interfering.

Problem with this policy is that it supposes at least some level of "cooperation" from the side of Kosovo. Kosovo's recent shutdwon of the mobile phone services and radio stations in the enclaves suggests that Kosovo wants confrontation, not cooperation.
(Wim Roffel, 3 May 2010 12:19)

If stopping criminal acts in progress means confrontation, so be it.

Mark wrote: “Slovakia, Spain, Romania, Cyprus, Greece [...] are undermining the efforts of the majority of EU members to solve the Kosovo problem.”

To solve the Kosovo problem? Mark, to solve what?

Kosovars ask for co-operation with Serbia and at the same time call Belgrade similar to Milosevic's government. In a same sentence they want something from Belgrade and pronounce being happiest having nothing to do with Belgrade. They are “free”, as they say. So why not to concentrate on building the happy land together with those who supported their UDI? I don't see Serbia pushing itself in bed with Kosovo and USA, or with Kosovo and Germany.

As far as I can hear the tune is “Kosovo is a done deal”. Build on this and stop sobbing.