Kurd rebels "attack army outpost"

Turkey's war on the Kurds was so far more brutal and repressive than anything that happened in Serbia. Some 40,000 killed and milliions displaced... yet the US directly aided and helped this. Atrocities in NATO countries are welcome therefore. Just shows what hypocrites NATO, the EU, and the US are.

It's a bit rich of Turkey to demand statehood for 100000 Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus and deny the same rights to millions of Kurds.

The Kurds in Turkey make up approximately 20% of the overall population (some 15 million). The Kurds were promised nationhood in the treaty of Sevres in 1920 but Kemal pasha objected to this. Kurdistan is spread over 3-4 countries and the Kurds are around 25-30 million worldwide. This means they are the biggest ethnic group in the world without a country.

The Kurds should declare a state in Northern Iraq where they have virtual control and the right time is probably now.They can then proceed and join their compatriots in what is now Eastern Turkey.

I would like to ask our Albanian visitors what they think of this. Do they relate more to the Turks, because they used to be their masters and they support the illegal Kosovo UDI, or do they relate more to the Kurds, because they Kurds want independence from Turkey like the Albanians want independence from Serbia (read carefully what I wrote)? Do you think that the PKK and the KLA had a lot in common? Do you think that "Kosovo" should support the PKK?

Leonidas,

Like most of the time I agree with your comments and clear analysis of the reality. I like your suggestion of the Kurds declaring a state in Northern Iraq which will serve as a base for expansion into countries with areas with large Kurdish majorities. The big unknown will be how Iraq, Turkey, and especially the US will respond to such an event. It is most likely that they will apply their usual double standards and find some lame excuse to weasel themselves out of another predictable and man-made disaster. It should be clear that Greece and Serbia should immediately recognize a free Kurdish state.

The only the keeping the Kurds from declaring a Kurdistan is the fact that they have oil and money under the present system, but sooner or later that will not be enough. It will be interesting to see what happens after the US withdraws from Iraq starting with 50000 by the end of this year.
What can the Turks do if the Kurds declare a Kurdistan? Little to nothing. The US is a spent power while the Turks are all talk and when it comes to action, well their best moves so far are losing troops at an alarming rate. What makes you think that if the US could not subdue the current rebellion in Iraq that the Turks could fare better?
Sooner or later the genie will be out of the bottle and no amount of repression from the Turks will stop Turkey from busting up.
NATO and its head, the US, are the greatest hypocrites in history with their double standards. All talk about freedom, democracy and human rights has been “blown” out of the water and the “emperor has been seen without his cloths”.

Milan

The Kurdish administration in Norhen Iraq has been autonomous and running its own affairs for sometime now.
I agree with you the way Iraq is going to go in future will be the determining factor whether it declares its independence now or bites its time.
If Iraq splits into various factions it follows the US will need a stable base to rely on as well as energy supplies.
I think the Iraqi Kurds could fullfil both requirements.In such a senario i fancy the US supporting the recognition of an independent Kurdistan.
With regard to Greek recognition i think Greece will follow its own interests but at the same time they will try to avoid any heightened tensions with Turkey over the issue.

Leonidas,

Like most of the time I agree with your comments and clear analysis of the reality. I like your suggestion of the Kurds declaring a state in Northern Iraq which will serve as a base for expansion into countries with areas with large Kurdish majorities. The big unknown will be how Iraq, Turkey, and especially the US will respond to such an event. It is most likely that they will apply their usual double standards and find some lame excuse to weasel themselves out of another predictable and man-made disaster. It should be clear that Greece and Serbia should immediately recognize a free Kurdish state.

Turkey's war on the Kurds was so far more brutal and repressive than anything that happened in Serbia. Some 40,000 killed and milliions displaced... yet the US directly aided and helped this. Atrocities in NATO countries are welcome therefore. Just shows what hypocrites NATO, the EU, and the US are.

I would like to ask our Albanian visitors what they think of this. Do they relate more to the Turks, because they used to be their masters and they support the illegal Kosovo UDI, or do they relate more to the Kurds, because they Kurds want independence from Turkey like the Albanians want independence from Serbia (read carefully what I wrote)? Do you think that the PKK and the KLA had a lot in common? Do you think that "Kosovo" should support the PKK?

Milan

The Kurdish administration in Norhen Iraq has been autonomous and running its own affairs for sometime now.
I agree with you the way Iraq is going to go in future will be the determining factor whether it declares its independence now or bites its time.
If Iraq splits into various factions it follows the US will need a stable base to rely on as well as energy supplies.
I think the Iraqi Kurds could fullfil both requirements.In such a senario i fancy the US supporting the recognition of an independent Kurdistan.
With regard to Greek recognition i think Greece will follow its own interests but at the same time they will try to avoid any heightened tensions with Turkey over the issue.

The only the keeping the Kurds from declaring a Kurdistan is the fact that they have oil and money under the present system, but sooner or later that will not be enough. It will be interesting to see what happens after the US withdraws from Iraq starting with 50000 by the end of this year.
What can the Turks do if the Kurds declare a Kurdistan? Little to nothing. The US is a spent power while the Turks are all talk and when it comes to action, well their best moves so far are losing troops at an alarming rate. What makes you think that if the US could not subdue the current rebellion in Iraq that the Turks could fare better?
Sooner or later the genie will be out of the bottle and no amount of repression from the Turks will stop Turkey from busting up.
NATO and its head, the US, are the greatest hypocrites in history with their double standards. All talk about freedom, democracy and human rights has been “blown” out of the water and the “emperor has been seen without his cloths”.

It's a bit rich of Turkey to demand statehood for 100000 Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus and deny the same rights to millions of Kurds.

The Kurds in Turkey make up approximately 20% of the overall population (some 15 million). The Kurds were promised nationhood in the treaty of Sevres in 1920 but Kemal pasha objected to this. Kurdistan is spread over 3-4 countries and the Kurds are around 25-30 million worldwide. This means they are the biggest ethnic group in the world without a country.

The Kurds should declare a state in Northern Iraq where they have virtual control and the right time is probably now.They can then proceed and join their compatriots in what is now Eastern Turkey.