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Tuesday, 27.04.2010.

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Ministry supports Kosovo Serb protests

Ministry for Kosovo State Secretary Oliver Ivanović said that the ministry supports the announced protests of Serbs.

Izvor: B92

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Jason

pre 13 godina

Peaceful demonstrations are the way to go. Take 10,000 people or so and paralyze traffic every day, all day. In the meantime, get some mobile transmitters and restore the signal. I know there is still service in Gracanica because they couldn't get to that unit, so it is quite possible.
(Jason, 27 April 2010 13:40)
Hmm according to another article in B92, the hospital in Gracanica cannot receive phone calls from the people there because of the dismantling of the system.
I wonder who is right you or B92?
(pss, 28 April 2010 01:20)

We both are. Landlines and the poorer families that do not have mobile phones are without service. Outside of Gracanica the cell phones do not work but thankfully, there is still mobile service in the town itself thanks to some Serbian ingenuity.

pss

pre 13 godina

Peaceful demonstrations are the way to go. Take 10,000 people or so and paralyze traffic every day, all day. In the meantime, get some mobile transmitters and restore the signal. I know there is still service in Gracanica because they couldn't get to that unit, so it is quite possible.
(Jason, 27 April 2010 13:40)
Hmm according to another article in B92, the hospital in Gracanica cannot receive phone calls from the people there because of the dismantling of the system.
I wonder who is right you or B92?

Ataman

pre 13 godina

I daresay 60,000 "Mac users"
(Mike, 27 April 2010 16:15)

Khm... khm... But you will be surprised to learn, how many HACKINTOSH users are in Belgrade and Pristina.
It's all illegal of course... but even if it's about the Mac, nothing is legal.

More and more does this circus remind me of Otok Vir incident when Croatians begun to demolish Hungarian homes built illegally. They are still angry at each other. And like here or with the Mac in Pristina: not even the Catholic church on Otok Vir is built legally.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Since 93% of the composition is Albanian and with the population of 2.1 mn it is clear to deduct around 1.8 - 1.9 million Kosovar - Albanians live in Kosovo." (RKS)

-- Ok, so there's more than I estimated. All the more reason for Pristina not to worry about what 100,000 Serbs do or don't do, right? I'd be more worried if that 1.8 - 1.9 million Albanian population were off the "legal" mobile grid.

RKS

pre 13 godina

Mike, there are not 1,200,000 Kosovars of the Albanian ethnicity, you are surely mistake (surprise).

Since 93% of the composition is Albanian and with the population of 2.1 mn it is clear to deduct around 1.8 - 1.9 million Kosovar - Albanians live in Kosovo.

Also by clear logic there are around (at most) 210,000 ethnic minorities (non-Albanian).

Thank You

Mike

pre 13 godina

Having spoken with a friend of mine in Gracanica last night, I can confirm that there still remains an 063 mobile service in the municipality, though it is weak. When asked about the situation, he responded that Kosovo has always found "legality in illegality" regardless of Serb or Albanian since one's legality is the other's illegality, and like their choosing generators over KEK, this has generated into one collective "F*ck you, Pristina". Any potential goodwill Pristina might have had with the K-Serbs is now gone.

Now if the Serbian mobile towers will be rebuilt, we can expect Belgrade will probably make some deal with EULEX to ensure the towers remain. Pristina might very well protest, but if they're not dismantled again, it means EULEX intervened to stave off any further instability.

In all honesty, I can't see Pristina going to such lengths because 60,000 Serbs south of the Ibar use a different service. Kosovo has 1.2 million Albanians. I daresay 60,000 "Mac users" are going to threaten attempts at encouraging foreign investment since it hasn't happened in the last 12 years due to conditions far more worse than rouge telephone services.

Sell your mobile services, Pristina. No one is stopping you. Roughly 40,000 customers are north of the Ibar and out of your control anyways. Another 60,000 isn't going to stifle business. Your crude tactics however might.

Mr Q

pre 13 godina

It is good to see confirmed by the Serbian government that they are behind the destabilisation of Kosova. By supporting the black market and the illegal activities in Kosova so openly they are trying to show that Kosova is not a safe place for Serbs. The reality is that the times have changed and the world is not looking towards Belgrade for news they are there to see it for themselves. I still have not seen any news from Serbia telling that Kosova has given free sim cards to every affected serb and albanin in the country, something that even Serbia government itself was not ready to do. This comes to show that Serbia has moved (as Vuk Jeremic stated few months back) to the second wave of measures showing the world how serbs are "suffering in Kosova" forgetting that the world does no longer need to be shown they can see things for themselves.

Allez

pre 13 godina

Peaceful demonstrations are the way to go. Take 10,000 people or so and paralyze traffic every day, all day. In the meantime, get some mobile transmitters and restore the signal. I know there is still service in Gracanica because they couldn't get to that unit, so it is quite possible.
(Jason, 27 April 2010 13:40)

Good let them protest Jason, it wont change the stance. its their choice and as for paralyzing its just a village man not that big of deal.

lids

pre 13 godina

So again with terror albanians are trying to be more atractive to investors.
Who in the right mind would buy from terrorist on account that 100.000 people were left without communication in such brutal way.
And again they need to make the money on account of serbian blood.
Sick..!

Jason

pre 13 godina

Peaceful demonstrations are the way to go. Take 10,000 people or so and paralyze traffic every day, all day. In the meantime, get some mobile transmitters and restore the signal. I know there is still service in Gracanica because they couldn't get to that unit, so it is quite possible.

lili

pre 13 godina

so miloshevian scheme:attacks,media campains,protests,ministerial déclaration,actions by serbs with victims,please,and then calls for intervention from your people's organisation,syndicates,women of serbia,academics of serbia,parlament of serbia etc etc... Old lenine has let some trace in serbian propaganda!

Jason

pre 13 godina

Peaceful demonstrations are the way to go. Take 10,000 people or so and paralyze traffic every day, all day. In the meantime, get some mobile transmitters and restore the signal. I know there is still service in Gracanica because they couldn't get to that unit, so it is quite possible.

lids

pre 13 godina

So again with terror albanians are trying to be more atractive to investors.
Who in the right mind would buy from terrorist on account that 100.000 people were left without communication in such brutal way.
And again they need to make the money on account of serbian blood.
Sick..!

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Since 93% of the composition is Albanian and with the population of 2.1 mn it is clear to deduct around 1.8 - 1.9 million Kosovar - Albanians live in Kosovo." (RKS)

-- Ok, so there's more than I estimated. All the more reason for Pristina not to worry about what 100,000 Serbs do or don't do, right? I'd be more worried if that 1.8 - 1.9 million Albanian population were off the "legal" mobile grid.

Mike

pre 13 godina

Having spoken with a friend of mine in Gracanica last night, I can confirm that there still remains an 063 mobile service in the municipality, though it is weak. When asked about the situation, he responded that Kosovo has always found "legality in illegality" regardless of Serb or Albanian since one's legality is the other's illegality, and like their choosing generators over KEK, this has generated into one collective "F*ck you, Pristina". Any potential goodwill Pristina might have had with the K-Serbs is now gone.

Now if the Serbian mobile towers will be rebuilt, we can expect Belgrade will probably make some deal with EULEX to ensure the towers remain. Pristina might very well protest, but if they're not dismantled again, it means EULEX intervened to stave off any further instability.

In all honesty, I can't see Pristina going to such lengths because 60,000 Serbs south of the Ibar use a different service. Kosovo has 1.2 million Albanians. I daresay 60,000 "Mac users" are going to threaten attempts at encouraging foreign investment since it hasn't happened in the last 12 years due to conditions far more worse than rouge telephone services.

Sell your mobile services, Pristina. No one is stopping you. Roughly 40,000 customers are north of the Ibar and out of your control anyways. Another 60,000 isn't going to stifle business. Your crude tactics however might.

lili

pre 13 godina

so miloshevian scheme:attacks,media campains,protests,ministerial déclaration,actions by serbs with victims,please,and then calls for intervention from your people's organisation,syndicates,women of serbia,academics of serbia,parlament of serbia etc etc... Old lenine has let some trace in serbian propaganda!

Mr Q

pre 13 godina

It is good to see confirmed by the Serbian government that they are behind the destabilisation of Kosova. By supporting the black market and the illegal activities in Kosova so openly they are trying to show that Kosova is not a safe place for Serbs. The reality is that the times have changed and the world is not looking towards Belgrade for news they are there to see it for themselves. I still have not seen any news from Serbia telling that Kosova has given free sim cards to every affected serb and albanin in the country, something that even Serbia government itself was not ready to do. This comes to show that Serbia has moved (as Vuk Jeremic stated few months back) to the second wave of measures showing the world how serbs are "suffering in Kosova" forgetting that the world does no longer need to be shown they can see things for themselves.

Allez

pre 13 godina

Peaceful demonstrations are the way to go. Take 10,000 people or so and paralyze traffic every day, all day. In the meantime, get some mobile transmitters and restore the signal. I know there is still service in Gracanica because they couldn't get to that unit, so it is quite possible.
(Jason, 27 April 2010 13:40)

Good let them protest Jason, it wont change the stance. its their choice and as for paralyzing its just a village man not that big of deal.

RKS

pre 13 godina

Mike, there are not 1,200,000 Kosovars of the Albanian ethnicity, you are surely mistake (surprise).

Since 93% of the composition is Albanian and with the population of 2.1 mn it is clear to deduct around 1.8 - 1.9 million Kosovar - Albanians live in Kosovo.

Also by clear logic there are around (at most) 210,000 ethnic minorities (non-Albanian).

Thank You

Ataman

pre 13 godina

I daresay 60,000 "Mac users"
(Mike, 27 April 2010 16:15)

Khm... khm... But you will be surprised to learn, how many HACKINTOSH users are in Belgrade and Pristina.
It's all illegal of course... but even if it's about the Mac, nothing is legal.

More and more does this circus remind me of Otok Vir incident when Croatians begun to demolish Hungarian homes built illegally. They are still angry at each other. And like here or with the Mac in Pristina: not even the Catholic church on Otok Vir is built legally.

Jason

pre 13 godina

Peaceful demonstrations are the way to go. Take 10,000 people or so and paralyze traffic every day, all day. In the meantime, get some mobile transmitters and restore the signal. I know there is still service in Gracanica because they couldn't get to that unit, so it is quite possible.
(Jason, 27 April 2010 13:40)
Hmm according to another article in B92, the hospital in Gracanica cannot receive phone calls from the people there because of the dismantling of the system.
I wonder who is right you or B92?
(pss, 28 April 2010 01:20)

We both are. Landlines and the poorer families that do not have mobile phones are without service. Outside of Gracanica the cell phones do not work but thankfully, there is still mobile service in the town itself thanks to some Serbian ingenuity.

pss

pre 13 godina

Peaceful demonstrations are the way to go. Take 10,000 people or so and paralyze traffic every day, all day. In the meantime, get some mobile transmitters and restore the signal. I know there is still service in Gracanica because they couldn't get to that unit, so it is quite possible.
(Jason, 27 April 2010 13:40)
Hmm according to another article in B92, the hospital in Gracanica cannot receive phone calls from the people there because of the dismantling of the system.
I wonder who is right you or B92?

lili

pre 13 godina

so miloshevian scheme:attacks,media campains,protests,ministerial déclaration,actions by serbs with victims,please,and then calls for intervention from your people's organisation,syndicates,women of serbia,academics of serbia,parlament of serbia etc etc... Old lenine has let some trace in serbian propaganda!

Mr Q

pre 13 godina

It is good to see confirmed by the Serbian government that they are behind the destabilisation of Kosova. By supporting the black market and the illegal activities in Kosova so openly they are trying to show that Kosova is not a safe place for Serbs. The reality is that the times have changed and the world is not looking towards Belgrade for news they are there to see it for themselves. I still have not seen any news from Serbia telling that Kosova has given free sim cards to every affected serb and albanin in the country, something that even Serbia government itself was not ready to do. This comes to show that Serbia has moved (as Vuk Jeremic stated few months back) to the second wave of measures showing the world how serbs are "suffering in Kosova" forgetting that the world does no longer need to be shown they can see things for themselves.

Allez

pre 13 godina

Peaceful demonstrations are the way to go. Take 10,000 people or so and paralyze traffic every day, all day. In the meantime, get some mobile transmitters and restore the signal. I know there is still service in Gracanica because they couldn't get to that unit, so it is quite possible.
(Jason, 27 April 2010 13:40)

Good let them protest Jason, it wont change the stance. its their choice and as for paralyzing its just a village man not that big of deal.

Jason

pre 13 godina

Peaceful demonstrations are the way to go. Take 10,000 people or so and paralyze traffic every day, all day. In the meantime, get some mobile transmitters and restore the signal. I know there is still service in Gracanica because they couldn't get to that unit, so it is quite possible.

RKS

pre 13 godina

Mike, there are not 1,200,000 Kosovars of the Albanian ethnicity, you are surely mistake (surprise).

Since 93% of the composition is Albanian and with the population of 2.1 mn it is clear to deduct around 1.8 - 1.9 million Kosovar - Albanians live in Kosovo.

Also by clear logic there are around (at most) 210,000 ethnic minorities (non-Albanian).

Thank You

lids

pre 13 godina

So again with terror albanians are trying to be more atractive to investors.
Who in the right mind would buy from terrorist on account that 100.000 people were left without communication in such brutal way.
And again they need to make the money on account of serbian blood.
Sick..!

Mike

pre 13 godina

Having spoken with a friend of mine in Gracanica last night, I can confirm that there still remains an 063 mobile service in the municipality, though it is weak. When asked about the situation, he responded that Kosovo has always found "legality in illegality" regardless of Serb or Albanian since one's legality is the other's illegality, and like their choosing generators over KEK, this has generated into one collective "F*ck you, Pristina". Any potential goodwill Pristina might have had with the K-Serbs is now gone.

Now if the Serbian mobile towers will be rebuilt, we can expect Belgrade will probably make some deal with EULEX to ensure the towers remain. Pristina might very well protest, but if they're not dismantled again, it means EULEX intervened to stave off any further instability.

In all honesty, I can't see Pristina going to such lengths because 60,000 Serbs south of the Ibar use a different service. Kosovo has 1.2 million Albanians. I daresay 60,000 "Mac users" are going to threaten attempts at encouraging foreign investment since it hasn't happened in the last 12 years due to conditions far more worse than rouge telephone services.

Sell your mobile services, Pristina. No one is stopping you. Roughly 40,000 customers are north of the Ibar and out of your control anyways. Another 60,000 isn't going to stifle business. Your crude tactics however might.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Since 93% of the composition is Albanian and with the population of 2.1 mn it is clear to deduct around 1.8 - 1.9 million Kosovar - Albanians live in Kosovo." (RKS)

-- Ok, so there's more than I estimated. All the more reason for Pristina not to worry about what 100,000 Serbs do or don't do, right? I'd be more worried if that 1.8 - 1.9 million Albanian population were off the "legal" mobile grid.

pss

pre 13 godina

Peaceful demonstrations are the way to go. Take 10,000 people or so and paralyze traffic every day, all day. In the meantime, get some mobile transmitters and restore the signal. I know there is still service in Gracanica because they couldn't get to that unit, so it is quite possible.
(Jason, 27 April 2010 13:40)
Hmm according to another article in B92, the hospital in Gracanica cannot receive phone calls from the people there because of the dismantling of the system.
I wonder who is right you or B92?

Ataman

pre 13 godina

I daresay 60,000 "Mac users"
(Mike, 27 April 2010 16:15)

Khm... khm... But you will be surprised to learn, how many HACKINTOSH users are in Belgrade and Pristina.
It's all illegal of course... but even if it's about the Mac, nothing is legal.

More and more does this circus remind me of Otok Vir incident when Croatians begun to demolish Hungarian homes built illegally. They are still angry at each other. And like here or with the Mac in Pristina: not even the Catholic church on Otok Vir is built legally.

Jason

pre 13 godina

Peaceful demonstrations are the way to go. Take 10,000 people or so and paralyze traffic every day, all day. In the meantime, get some mobile transmitters and restore the signal. I know there is still service in Gracanica because they couldn't get to that unit, so it is quite possible.
(Jason, 27 April 2010 13:40)
Hmm according to another article in B92, the hospital in Gracanica cannot receive phone calls from the people there because of the dismantling of the system.
I wonder who is right you or B92?
(pss, 28 April 2010 01:20)

We both are. Landlines and the poorer families that do not have mobile phones are without service. Outside of Gracanica the cell phones do not work but thankfully, there is still mobile service in the town itself thanks to some Serbian ingenuity.