Orthodox church vandalized with fascist graffiti

And this country will soon join the EU? Well, they will fit right in. Wonder if any catholic churches in Serbia experienced the same V.I.P treatment?

Truudsman,
Almost daily proof, of why we were never brothers, we are not brothers, and why we will never be brothers. You see who harbors HATE. We SERBS don't carry that HATE, have you been to Belgrade, go see the spirit, it is unmatched anywhere in the world. It is the Spirit of Freedom, freedom from hate, from insecurity, from guilt, from the past.

Judging, speculating, and concluding on such touchy events as this one before any evidence, is also a "crime". It's called attacking. No matter how subtle it may appear, it's still an attack, and it's very negative and counter productive on all levels. Give peace a chance--no one said that it was going to be easy. The people that did this act of hate should never be allowed to ruin the future of our children by "infecting' them--instead we should listen to our children, and make peace and reconciliation for them--if not for us.

Listen to the children--it's their future too.
Or do we really love our egos more than our children? The last sentence is a $64.000,000,000 question!

trudsaam said....

"Political seems more logical than emotional."

REALLY??? When was the last time you went through Croatia especially the villages? Hate to break the truth to you but its not a pretty picture for Serbs in Croatia! I would dare you to go through Croatia wearing a Serbian Cross and see what happens, but that wouldn't be wise.

You can say its political, but that is an ignorant excuse. Extremists are absolutley everywhere, that is where I can agree with you.

What these extremist need to realize is the war is over and now their tax money has to repair these damages. I am sure that money can be used in developing the country instead.

The same exact thing happened here in Cleveland, Ohio in the 90's. It's just sickening

Truudsman,
Almost daily proof, of why we were never brothers, we are not brothers, and why we will never be brothers. You see who harbors HATE. We SERBS don't carry that HATE, have you been to Belgrade, go see the spirit, it is unmatched anywhere in the world. It is the Spirit of Freedom, freedom from hate, from insecurity, from guilt, from the past.
(Taylor)
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Ok, let's say these were extremist thugs. You mean to tell me they speak for ALL Croatians? Both us Serbs and the Croatians have reasons to be angry at each other. I agree with what you say they have done to us, but do you remember what we did to defenseless Dubrovnik? I have a summer home in Dubrovnik and when I had to flee with my family from the war we couldnt understand how we could be attacking/bombing OURSELVES. We brought devastation to Dubrovnik, and in the end we didn't even take it; so what was the point. Dalmatia according to history is Serbian land.

And yes, beautiful Beograd has the spirit that will stay in the souls of all those who visit. The people are special with a specific charm and humbleness that no one can forget or let go of easily. There is something special in Beograd, something no one can put in words, one can go and experience this energy for themselves. So to you Taylor i say... share your charm and humbleness we are all guilty and must begin to face-ourselves not each-other, then and only then will there be peace amongst us brothers and sisters.

Or do we really love our egos more than our children? The last sentence is a $64.000,000,000 question!
(summer fun and concerts!)
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I think it's fair to say that most people on this site, will do anything at any cost to protect their egos. You hit the nail right on the head mate... Good day

This is a political tactic. Most Croat citizens wouldn't dare to bring themselves this low. Then again, extremists are everywhere.

Political seems more logical than emotional.

We brought devastation in Dubrovnik? Huh? Speak for yourself- Croatia illegaly declared independence from Yugoslavia, without a referendem without the right of the people's votes counted! Texas did the same without a referendem the US military would have gutted Texas inside and out until it came back to the US. And destruction what destruction? A few houses? HOw many people died during the Croatian provoke of the Yugoslav navy. The Dubrovnik case was analyzed completely and it was shown that CROATIAN military was firing upon Yugoslav navy from locations that were against Geneva War Conventions just like the Muslims did in Sarajevo. Come on brate see through to the truth. We Serbs have never and will never start anything. It has always been and it always will be.

Pfft...Can Croatians think of anything else.

Taylor-
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You seem to have missed my point again. The Croatian attacks were wrong, but do we make right by creating another wrong?

And don;t undermine what happened in Dubrovnik, you say a few houses? Have you ever been there mate? I am a full blooded Serb, and I have seen the destruction my people have done to that beautiful area. And please when I go to Croatia in the summer-time, whether its Zagreb, Durbovnik or Split; I dont hide my nationality, most citizens there will know I am a Serb, BUT they also know I wasn't the one throwing hand-grenades at children... You can make your excuses but the only danger here is the extremists, and you all know well how we also have extremists, So whats your point?

You cannot label a whole society based on a few individuals. We expect the same from them , right? You continue to say your open to tolerance and love, but by your statements I can see you are not.

How about someone answer my question.... SInce we attacked Dubrovnik so aggressively, why didnt we take it?

I would dare you to go through Croatia wearing a Serbian Cross and see what happens, but that wouldn't be wise.
(Gojko)
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Been there, done that. And I am doing just fine. :)

Truudsman,
what don't you understand? We never attacked Dubrovnik, croats attacked the Yugoslav navy...Croatia ILLEGALLY DECLARED INDEPENDENCE - what don't you understand about that? Are you serious? Yugoslavia had all rights to defend its territory from formation of military structures on it's soil. Just like US would do if texas or any other country would do that is why militaries are the most expensive sectors of any country's spending TO PROTECT ITSELF from people who declare independence on their own soil without a vote. Serbs never got to vote. How many people died in Dubrovnik? Please tell me? How can you be so foolish? DO you know that 82 bridges across SErbia were destroyed? 160 factories? 17 hospitals? do you want me to go on? And you cry for a few roof tiles in dubrovnik? why because it is on the sea and omg it is so beautiful so a few roofs are more valuable then a whole country's infrastructure ARE YOU SERIOUS! My friend you are lost but I don't blame you the world has taught you to hate yourself. Just as the world has taught the Jews to hate themselves. Most Serbs I know are so ashamed they would never say they are Serbs. Yet, Serbs are like no others in the world because no other people fought for freedom like the Serb and paid the heaviest price in history. That is a fact if you want evidence I can give you it all day and all night - just ask. Tell me something if your croatia is such a beautiful place then why did they make poor farmers walk on foot to bosnia. over 300,000 of them? Come on give me your Croatian answer? Was it because of the Serbian army that this happened, haha save it man. You don't get it, educate yourself with facts, not CNN and BBC. You still don't get it there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, just like there was no genocide and ethnic cleansing by Serbs of Croats, Muslims, ALbanians. If you are so democratic why don't you help Croatia to become multi-ethnic again? You live among the most racially pure states in the world. Why is Kosovo almost completely clean of Serbs? Why have 150 churches disappered in the last 5 years? Why is Sarajevo completley cleansed of Serbs? Please answer me these questions with facts not the same lies repeated over and over again milosevic's fault his plan for a greater Serbia. Name me one speech where Milosevic said anything bad about anyone and I will give you all the money in my bank account which is a lot...i can give you countless of examples of hate from Croatian leaders and Muslim and Albanian leaders. Give me some facts, you keep saying Serbs did this and attaked this and that, I need facts. You yourself hate your own or if you don't hate you think that by going along the fairytale story the croats and muslims and Kosovo Albanians made up that you will be some kind of hero? Please you look desparate because you have no facts, zero, like every westerner who talks about the balkans the repeat the same lies that were conjured up in PR offices in london and new york. Look around you Serbia has close to 900,000 refugees...how many do albanians have = zero. How many do croats have = zero. How many do muslims have?
When are the muslims going to give back 500 years of torture, murder and enslavement of Serbs? Or do you consider Islam a peaceful religion too and what they did to Serbs Serbs brought about themselves like the Krajina poor peasents who didn't even have a pair sneakers to their name.
Truudsman, you are not a Serb and the reason i say that is because if you were you would go after the truth at all costs. You don't you live in the same fairytale accusatory world as muslims, croats, and albanians, but don't worry we are fighting hard here in the US, Australia, China and the world to show what really happened. We have the Evangelical church backing we are making movies, documentaries, books, BASED ON FACTS - real facts. Not stories of pretend victims like your best buddies in dubrovnik.

Truudsman,
hand grenades on children? shame on you, shame on you. Is that what mesic told you. Give me one factual event where hand grenades were thrown at children.
You think that because you can walk around Zagreb you are free? Why don't you try to tell them about the truth about what happened there, why don't you start an organization to help refugees get back what BELONGS to them, then you will see how much your croatian brothers love you.

Truudsman,
hand grenades on children? shame on you, shame on you. Is that what mesic told you. Give me one factual event where hand grenades were thrown at children.
You think that because you can walk around Zagreb you are free? Why don't you try to tell them about the truth about what happened there, why don't you start an organization to help refugees get back what BELONGS to them, then you will see how much your croatian brothers love you.
(Taylor)
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Excuse me Taylor maybe I was a bit rash on the "hand-grenade" part, BUT snipers from mountain tops in Dubrovnik were in fact shooting un-armed civilians, many of them being children. And dont try to deny this; I have no reason to be Anti-Serb or Pro-Croat, I see us as ONE anyway. The facts remain, the extremists have tainted our image, and theirs.

Do you think the Croats do not know the truth? Beleive me they do, most just choose to ignore the facts, kinda like some of us... See the similarities between us brothers and sisters?

Everytime I vacation in Croatia and speak humble political with the locals, I am always told the same thing; What happened to Yugoslavia? "We used to love the Serbs vacaitoning here, what happened? now we have Westerners taking over.

So you see?

I lived in Sibenik. My neighbors as well as myself almost died from the Serb shelling. After the battle, we managed to escape with only our theatre blown up and the bridge destroyed. Not "bad" compared to what happened elsewhere.

My mother's family was from the area of Drnis. I say was because they were forced out by Serbian paramilitaries for the sole reason they were Croats. My uncle has returned and is trying to live in the area again.

Same with family friends from Kijevo, and countless others from Plitvice, Karlovac, Vrlika, Cetina area, Banovina, etc.

Please get it out of your head that there are only one set of victims. Everyone from the war is a victim. Everyone lost something. The reason some Serb property gets vandalized is because these people are still living in the past and hurting from their losses. In some part of their mind, they feel Serbs deserve these attacks because of what they did to their own Catholic churches and family villages/homes.

Of course, you don't see it this way. But hopefully I gave you some idea from the other side. Let's learn to forgive as Christians, as I'm sure many are.

Taylor;
Must I be blunt with you? My Serbian home was bombed in Dubrovnik, aswell as the whole neighbourhood it resided in. War is WAR... bottome line. The Croats are not angels either, you have PURPOSELY misunderstood me. They have initiated the whole situation in the first place BUT the people are innocent, they fell victim to the whole devastation. Beleive me I have done my research more than you can ever know... the difference between me and you is that YOU choose sides, I dont simply because we are slices cut from the same bread.

To claim I am not Serb is something of pure ignorance on your part. What is it to be a Serb ? (answer if you can)...

Remember one thing brother; Whatever it is you have to say against the Croats, the Croats have just the same amount to say about us.

I have learned this the hard-way. Once upon a time I was a "nationalist" and didn't want my people to claim responsibilty for anything. Now I know better, I know now it wasn't up to the people at all. We were all just pawns. When the war started in Croatia, the Croatians couldnt beleive it was happening, and righfully so... How can Yugoslavia bomb itself?

So please taylor... re-read my posts, with an open heart. I only speak good about our people, the Serbs were the first to realise the fatal mistake, then the Croats and then the Bosnians.

We will unite once again, and again it will remain. We cannot stop genetics ALL of us have blood (DNA) leading to the other, so why not?

Good day to you;

How about someone answer my Question.... Since we attacked Dubrovnik so aggressively, why didnt we take it? Answer: Because your so called JNA weren't good enough to take it. The Serb irregulars and the JNA never had the heart to fight as they were fighting without a cause. It;s only the Serbs who think that Slovenia, Croatia, BiH, Montenegro & Kosova broke away illegally. It appears the Serbs are always right while others are constantly wrong. It's no wonder the Serbs have trouble being accepted by the Balkan region.

Yes Taylor, the Serbs were always 'angelic' regarding their conduct in Yugoslavia's firey end ...... whatever ...

BTW, Croatia did hold a legitimate referendum, so did Slovenia and Bosnia and the majority democratically voted for independence which was allowed under the then Yugoslav constitution.

Trudsman, read below FACTS!

About 1,000 civilians, including 45 children (Click here for photos of children injured in NATO attack on a tourist bus near Pristina, Kosovo), were killed and more than
4,500 sustained serious injuries e.g.:
- in Kursumlija: 13 dead and 25 wounded;
- in Panevo: 2 dead and 4 wounded;
- in Kragujevac: over 120 workers were wounded during an attack on the car
factory "Zastava";
- in Vranje: two dead and 23 wounded;
- in Aleksinac: 12 dead and more than 40 wounded;
- in Nagavac village, Orahovac municipality: 11 dead and 5 wounded;
- in Pristina: 10 dead and 8 wounded;
- Grdelicka gorge: 55 killed and 16 wounded;
- attack on two refugee columns, with four cruise missiles, on the
Djakovica-Prizren road: 75 killed and 100 wounded, of whom 26 critically;
- in the village of Srbica: 10 killed, among whom 7 children;
- Belgrade suburb of Batajnica: a three year old girl Milica Rakic was
killed, and five civilians wounded.
- in Nis: in the attack on housing flats one civilian was killed while 11
wounded;
- in Pristina: in the attack on a Provisional Executive Council building
in the suburb Grmija, one civilian was killed while 2 wounded;
- in Djakovica: in the attack on a refugee settlement housing Serb
refugees from the Republika Srpska Krajina (Croatia), 10 refugees were
killed and 16 wounded;
- in Belgrade: in the attack on the Radio Television of Serbia office
building, 15 employees have been killed and 17 wounded;


After the demolition of the Petrovaradin bridge, Novi Sad and Petrovaradin
were cut of water supply (600 000 citizens) since the main and city
pipeline was constructed into the bridge. About one million citizens, according to Yugoslav sources, are short of water. About 500 000 workers became jobless due to the total destruction of industrial facilities all around the country. Two million citizens have no means for living and cannot ensure the minimum for existence.
Overall material damage is enormous. Preliminary estimates indicate that NATO
air strikes have incurred damages in excess of 10 billion dollars. In the
territory of the northern province of Vojvodina alone, damages have been
estimated in excess of 3,5 billion dollars.

T R A F F I C

The road and railway networks, especially road and rail bridges, most of
which were destroyed or damaged beyond repair, suffered extensive
destruction. The targets of attacks were such communications as:

1. BRIDGES (18 DESTROYED AND 12 DAMAGED):

(a) Destoyed (20)
1. The Varadin Bridge over the Danube (on 1 April 1999);
2. The "Sloboda" (Freedom) Bridge over the Danube (on 4 April 1999);
3. The "Zezeljov" Bridge in Novi Sad (on 5 April 1999);
4. The bridge over the Ibar river, Biljanovac municipality (on 5 - 13
April 1999);
5. The bridge over the Vrba.ka river near Jezgrovic (on 5 April 1999);
6. The "Lozno" railway bridge near Usfe (on 5 April 1999);
7. The road bridge on the road leading to Brvenik, near Usce (on 5 April
1999);
8. The bridge near Zubin Potok, on the Kosovska Mitrovica - Ribarice road
(on 5 April 1999);
9. The old bridge on the river Rasina near the town of Krusevac (12-13
April 1999);
10. The new bridge on the river Rasina near the town of Krusevac (12-13
April 1999);
11. The Krusevac-Pojate bridge on the river Zapadna Morava, at the village
of Jasika (on 13 April 1999);
12. The railway bridge on the river Lim, between Priboj and Prijepolje,
near hydroelectric power station Bistrica (on 15 April 1999);
13. The bridge on the river Ibar, at the village of Brvenik, linking
Korlace and Raska (15.04.1999.);
14. The bridge between Smederevo and Kovin (16 April 1999);
15. The railway bridge on the river Kostajnica, near Kursumlija
(18.04.1999.);
16. The bridge over the regional Kursumlija - Prokuplje road;
17. The bridge over the river Vrapcevska Reka near the village of
Ribarice, from the direction of Kosovska Mitrovica;
18. The bridge over the railway track on the regional road Biljanovac -
Mt. Kopaonik;
19. The railway bridge near the village of Rudnica in the vicinity of
Raska, on the Kraljevo - Kosovo Polje railway line;
20. The bridge over the Danube along the Beograd-Novi Sad road, near
Beska, Indjija municipality (on 21 April 1999);

(b) Damaged (12)
1. The "Mladosti" (Youth) Bridge over the Danube, connecting Backa Palanka
with Ilok, was damaged (on 4 April 1999);
2. The new railway/road bridge over the Danube connecting Bogojevo and
Erdut was damaged (on 5 April 1999);
3. The road bridge along the Magura Belafevac road, 15 kilometres from
Pristina, suffered extensive damage;
4. The bridge along the Nis-Pristina primary road, near Kursumlija, was
extensivelly damageg (on 5 April 1999);
5. The Grdelica gorge railway bridge, on the river Juzna Morava, was
damaged (on 12 April 1999);
6. The Grdelica gorge road bridge, on the river Juzna Morava, was damaged
(on 12 April 1999);
7. The road bridge over the Kosanica river near Kursumlija was damaged (on
13 April 1999);
8. The road bridge on the river Toplica, on the Nis-Pristina road near the
town of Kursumlija, was heavily damaged (14 and 19 April 1999);
9. The bridge on the river Kosanica, at the village of Selo Visoko, has
sustained heavy damages and is out of service 18.04.1999.);
10. The road bridge "Raskrsnica" near Donja Bistrica, on the route Priboj -
Prijepolje - Nova Varos, has sustained heavy damages (20 April 1999);
11. The railway bridge on the river Sava near Ostruznica, has been heavily
damaged (21, 23 April 1999);
12. The railway bridge on the Kraljevo - Raska railway line, near
Kraljevo, has been heavily damaged (23 April 1999);

2. RAILWAYS RAILWAY STATIONS (16):
1. The Kraljevo - Kosovo Polje rail, near Ibarska Slatina;
2. The Belgrade - Bar rail, due to the destruction of the railway track
near the village of Strbce and destruction of the bridge on the river Lim,
between Priboj and Prijepolje;
3. The Kursumlija - Prokuplje rail, near Pepeljevac village;
4. The Kraljevo - Kosovo Polje rail, near Ibarska Slatina;
5. The Nis - Pristina rail, near Kursumlija;
6. "Sarpelj" tunnel, near Jerinje village, 15 km north of Leposavic
towards Raska, was destroyed;
7. Railway station in Kraljevo (Bogutovac);
8. Railway station in Kosovo Polje;
9. The Belgrade - Thessaloniki rail, due to the destruction of the bridge
in the Grdelica gorge;
10. Railway station in the town of Biljanovac;
11. Railway track and overpass (Josinacka Banja) near the town of
Biljanovac;
12. Railway track Kursumlija - Podujevo, due to damages on the railway
bridge at Kursumlija; 13. Railway track Kraljevo - Kragujevac, due to
damages to the section of the track near the village of Vitanovac;
14. Railway track Uzice - Priboj:
15. Railway track Bogojevo - Vukovar;
16. Railway Track Leskovac - Predejane;

3. ROADS AND TRANSPORTERS (6 MAJOR ROADS):
1. Ibarska primary road, due to damages to the bridge on the Ibar river,
Biljanovac municipality, and destruction of the road between Pozega and
Cacak;
2. Belgrade-Zagreb highway, near Stari Banovci;
3. Traffic suspended on the Kosovska Mitrovica-Ribarici section of the
Adriatic highway due to the destruction of the bridge over the Vrbacka
river;
4. "Jedinstvo" bus station in Vranje sustained extensive damage;
5. "Kosmet Prevoz" transporter in Gnjilane (a hangar full of new buses);
6. Kraljevo-Raska primary road;
7. Bus station in Pristina;
8. Traffic has been suspended on the Krusevac-Pojate road due to the
destruction of the bridge on the Zapadna Morava, in the village of Jasika;
9. Traffic has been suspended on the Nis-Pristina road, due to the fact
that the bridge on the river Toplica, near the town of Kursumlija, has
sustained heavy damage;
10. Traffic has been suspedned on the regional road Priboj - Prijepolje -
Nova Varos, due to damages inflicted on the bridge "Raskrsnica" near Donja
Bistrica;
11. Road maintenance company "Magistrala" in Pristina;
12. The Nis Central Bus Station;
13. The Pristina Bus Station;

4. AIRPORTS (7):
- "Slatina" in Pristina; "Batajnica" and "Surcin" in Belgrade; Nis
airport; "Ponikve" in Uzice; "Golubovac" in Podgorica, "Ladjevci" airport
near Kraljevo; agricultural and sports airfield in Sombor.

ECONOMIC AND CIVILIAN TARGETS, PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS

The air strikes have so far destroyed or damaged several thousand economic facilities and dwellings. In the Leskovac region alone, over 3,500 industrial facilities and
dwellings were either destroyed or damaged. The devastation is particularly bad in Pristina, Novi Sad, Aleksinac, Djakovica, Prokuplje, Gracanica, Cuprija, etc. Housing
blocks on the outskirts of Belgrade - Kijevo Knezevac, Batajnica, Jakovo, Borca, as well as the area around Pancevo have been under attack.

1. INDUSTRY AND TRADE:
The NATO attacks have targeted the factories and industrial
facilities which directly cater for the needs of the population, among
which are:

1. "Galenika" drug factory in Belgrade;
2. Industrial complex "Dvadeset Prvi Maj" in Rakovica;
3. Machine building plant "Industrija Motora Rakovica" in Rakovica;
4. Factory "Jugostroj" in Rakovica;
5. Factory "Frigostroj" in Rakovica;
6. "Lola Utva" agricultural aircraft factory in Pancevo;
7. "Zdravlje" pharmaceutical plant in Leskovac;
8. "Sloboda" white goods factory in Cacak;
9. "Din" tobacco industry in Nis;
10. "Elektronska industrija" factory in Nis;
11. "Jastrebac" machine industry in Nis;
12. Facilities of the "Beograd" rail company in Nis;
13. Construction material depot "Ogrev Invest" in Nis;
14. General merchandise depot "Kopaonik" in Nis;
15. Production line of the tobacco factory "Nis" in Nis;
16. "Elektrotehna" warehouse in Nis;
17. Food storage facility "Fidelinka" in Nis;
18. Facilities of the machine industry in Nis;
19. Office building of the company "So Produkt" in Nis;
20. Facilities of the pharmaceutical company "Velafarm" in Nis;
21. "Zastava" car factory in Kragujevac;
22. "14 Oktobar" machine factory in Krusevac;
23. Production line of the metal factory "Metalac" in Kursumlija;
24. "Krusik" holding corporation in Valjevo;
25. "Ciklonizacija" in Novi Sad;
26. "Tehnogas" in Novi Sad;
27. "Novograp" in Novi Sad;
28. "Gumins" in Novi Sad;
29. "Albus" in Novi Sad;
30. "Petar Drapsin" in Novi Sad;
31. "Motins" in Novi Sad;
32. "Izolacija" in Novi Sad;
33. "Novokabel" in Novi Sad;
34. "Istra" fittings factory in Kula;
35. The port of Bogojevo;
36. "Div" cigarette factory in Vranje;
37. "Nova Jugoslavija" printers in Vranje;
38. Furniture factor "Simpo" in Vranje;
39. Textile industry "Jumko" in Vranje;
40. Wood-processing complex "27. November" in Raska;
41. Tubes factory in Urosevac;
42. "Milan Blagojevic" chemical plant in Lucani;
43. Plastics factory in Pristina;
44. Cotton yarn factory in Pristina;
45. Shock-absorber factory in Pristina;
46. Surface coal mine "Belacevac";
47. "Binacka Morava" hydro construction company in Gnjilane;
48. Cigarette factory in Gnjilane;
49. Battery factory in Gnjilane:
50. Over 250 commercial and crafts shops in Djakovica were destroyed;
51. "Dijana" shoe factory in Sremska Mitrovica;

2. REFINERIES AND WAREHOUSES storing liquid raw materials and chemicals
intended for the oil and chemical industry, were hit in Pancevo, Novi Sad,
Sombor and elsewhere, causing large contamination of soil and the air:
1. Fuel storage in Lipovica, which caused a great fire in the Lipovica
forest (on 26 March 1999);
2. "Beopetrol" storage in Belgrade (on 4 April 1999);
3. "Beopetrol" storage in Bogutovac (4-24 April 1999);
4. Fuel storage of the boiler plant in Novi Beograd (on 4 April 1999);
5. Chemical plant "Prva Iskra" in Baric - destruction of the production
line (19 April 1999);
6. Oil Refinery in Pancevo - totally demolished (4-16 April 1999);
7. Petrochemical industry "DP HIP PETROHEMIJA" in Pancevo - totally
demolished (14-15 April 1999);
8. Fertilizer plant "DP HIP AZOTARA" in Pancevo - totally destroyed (14-15
April 1999);
9. "Jugopetrol" installations in Smederevo (on 4-13 April 1999);
10. Thermo electric power station/boiler plant in Novi Sad (on 5 April
1999);
11. Oil Refinery in Novi Sad, storage of bitumen (5 and 6 April 1999);
12. "Jugopetrol" storage in Sombor (on 7 April 1999);
13. Fuel storage "Naftagas promet" which is located 10 km from Sombor (5
April 1999);
14. Naftagas warehouse between Conoplje and Kljaicevo (Sombor);
15. "Beopetrol" fuel storage in Pristina (on 7 April 1999);
16 Jugopetrol warehouse in Pristina (on 12 April 1999);
17. Jugopetrol petrol station in Pristina ( on 13 April 1999);
18. Fuel depot in Gruua, near Kragujevac;

3. AGRICULTURE:
1. PIK "Kopaonik" in Kursumlija;
2. PIK "Mladost" in Gnjilane;
3. Agricultural Complex "Malizgan" in Dolac;
4. Agricultural Complex "Djuro Strugar" in Kula;
5. Agricultural and food-processing plant and a cow-breeding farm with 220
milk cows "Pester", in Sjenica, has been destroyed;
6. In forest fires caused by NATO cruise missiles and bombs over 250
hectares of forests have been burned down;
7. Several thousand hectares of fertile land, many rivers, lakes and
underground waters have been polluted due to the spillage of petrochemical
substances, oil spills and slicks;

4. HOSPITALS AND HEALTH CARE CENTRES (21):
NATO aviation also targeted many hospitals and health-care institutions,
which have been partially damaged or totally destroyed, including:

- Neuropsychiatric Ward "Dr. Laza Lazarevic" and Central Pharmacy of the
Emergency Centre in Belgrade;
- "Sveti Sava" hospital in Belgrade;
- Army Medical Academy in Belgrade;
- Gynaecological Hospital and Maternity Ward of the Clinical Centre in
Belgrade;
- Health Care Centre in Rakovica;
- Hospital and Medical Centre in the territory in Leskovac;
- Gerontological Centre in Leskovac;
- Hospital and Poly-clinic in Nis;
- General Hospital in Djakovica;
- City Hospital in Novi Sad;
- Medical Centre and Ambulance Centre in Aleksinac;
- Medical Centre in Kraljevo;
- Dispensary on Mount Zlatibor;
- City hospital in Valjevo;
- Dispensary "Krusik" in Valjevo;
- Hospital for treatment of dystrophia in Novi Pazar;
- Health Care Centre in Kursumlija;



5. SCHOOLS (MORE THAN 200 FACILITIES)
Over 2000 schools, faculties and facilities for students and children were
damaged or destroyed (over 25 faculties, 10 collages, 45 secondary and 90
elementary schools, 8 student dormitories, as well as a number of
kindergartens), including:
- Elementary schools "16. oktobar" and "Vladimir Rolovic" in Belgrade;
- Day-care centre in settlement Petlovo Brdo in Belgrade;
- Elementary school and Engineering secondary school centre in Rakovica;
- Two secondary schools in the territory of Nis;
- Faculty for construction and architecture in Nis;
- Faculty for machine-technical studies in Nis;
- Faculty for electro-technical studies in Nis;
- Faculties of Law and Economics and elementary school "Radoje Domanovic"
in Nis;
- Elementary schools "Toza Markovic", "Djordje Natosevic", "Veljko
Vlahovic", "Sangaj" and "Djuro Danicic" and a day-care centre "Duga" in
Novi Sad and creches in Visarionova Street and in the neighbourhood of
Sangaj; Traffic School Centre, Faculty of Philosophy;
- Four elementary schools and a Medical high school in the territory of
Leskovac;
- Elementary school in Lucane, as well as a larger number of education
facilities in the territory of Kosovo and Metohija;
- Elementary schools in Kraljevo and the villages of Cvetka, Aketa and
Ladjevci;
- In Sombor: elementary schools "Ivo Lola Ribar", "A. Mrazovic", "N.
Vukicevic" and
"Nikola Tesla"
- School centre in Kula;
- Agricultural school in Valjevo;

6. PUBLIC AND HOUSING FACILITIES (TENS OF THOUSANDS)
- The residence of the President of the FR of Yugoslvia in Belgrade,
sustained heavy damages (22 April 1999);
- Severe damage to the facilities of the Republican and Federal Ministry
of the Interior in Belgrade (3 April 1999),
- Damage to the building of the Institute for Security of the Ministry of
the Interior in Banjica (3 April 1999);
- Severe damage to the TV RTS studio in Pristina;
- Heavy damage to Hydro-Meteorological Station (Bukulja, near
Arandjelovac);
- Post Office in Pristina destroyed (7 April 1999);
- Refugee centre in Pristina destroyed (7 April 1999);
- "Tornik" ski resort on Mount Zlatibor (on 8 April 1999);
- "Divcibare" mountain resort (on 11 April 1999);
- "Baciste" Hotel on Mount Kopaonik (on 12 April 1999);
- City power plant in the town of Krusevac (12-13 April 1999);
- Meteorological Station on Mount Kopaonik damaged (on 13 April 1999);
- Four libraries in Rakovica sustained heavy damage: "Radoje Dakic",
"Isidora Sekulic", "Milos Crnjanski" and "Dusan Matic";
- Refugee camp "7 juli" in Paracin has sustained heavy damage;
- Office building of the Provincial Executive Council of Vojvodina, Novi
Sad (18.04.1999.);
- Hotel "Mineral" in Bogutovacka Banja sustained heavy damages (19 Aptil
1999);
- Office building of the power distribution board "Elektrodistribucija" in
Kursumlija (20 April 1999);
- Hotel "Putnik" on Mt. Kopaonik;
- Bussiness centre "Usce" in Belgrade (21 April 1999);
- Refugee camp "Majino naselje" in Djakovica (21 April 1999);
- Radio Television of Serbia office building in Belgrade (23 April 1999);
- Youth and children centre in Belgrade (23 April 1999);
- Youth theater "Dusko Radovic" in Belgrade (23 April 1999);
- Post Office in Nis (23 April 1999);
- Several thousand housing facilities damaged or destroyed, privately or
State owned, across Yugoslavia - most striking examples being housing
blocks in downtown Aleksinac and those near Post Office in Pristina.

7. INFRASTRUCTURE:
- Damage to a power supply transmitted in Batajnica (26 March 1999);
- Damage to water supply system in Zemun (5 April 1999);
- Damage to a power supply transmitter in Bogutovac (10 April 1999);
- Telephone lines cut off in Bogutovac (10 April 1999);
- Damage to a power station in Pristina (12 April 1999);
- Damage to Bistrica hydroelectric power station in Polinje (13 April 1999);
- Damage to electric power transmission lines and distribution network in
the zone under air stikes by NATO enemy aircraft;
- Destruction of power supply transmitters in Belgrade suburbs of Resnik
and Zemun Polje (23 April 1999);

TELECOMMUNICATIONS

TV TRANSMITTERS (23):
1. Jastrebac (Prokuplje)
2. Gucevo (Loznica)
3. Cot (Fruska Gora)
4. Grmija (Pristina)
5. Bogutovac (Pristina)
6. TV transmitter on Mt Goles (Pristina)
7. Mokra Gora (Pristina)
8. Kutlovac (Stari Trg)
9. "Cigota" (Uzice)
10. "Tornik" (Uzice)
11. Transmitter on Crni Vrh (Jagodina)
12. Satellite station "Yugoslavia" (in Prilike near Ivanjica)
13. TV masts and transmitters (Novi Sad)
14. TV transmitter on Mt Ovcara (Cacak)
15. TV transmitter in Kijevo (Belgrade)
16. TV transmitter on Mt Cer
17. Relay on Mt Jagodnji (Krupanj)
18. TV transmitter "Iriski Venac" (Fruska Gora)
19. TV relay on Mt. Bukulja;
20. Transmitter in Gazimestan (Pristina);
21. RTV transmitter in Krnjaca (Belgrade);
22. RTV transmitter on Mt. Gobelj (Mt. Kopaonik);
23. RTV transmitter on top of the business centre "Usce" used by RTV
Kosava, RTV Pink, SOS channel, TV BK and Radio S (Belgrade);

CULTURAL-HISTORICAL MONUMENTS
AND RELIGIOUS SHRINES

MEDIEVAL MONASTERIES AND RELIGIOUS SHRINES (18):
1. Monastery Gracanica from 14th century (24 March - 6 April 1999);
2. Monastery Rakovica from 17th century (29 March 1999);
3. Patriarchate of Pec (1 April 1999);
4. Church in Jelasnica near Surdulica (4 April 1999);
5. Monastery of the Church of St. Juraj (built in 1714) in Petrovaradin (1
April 1999);
6. Monastery of Holy Mother (12th century) at the estuary of the Kosanica
in the Toplica - territory of municipality of Kursumlija (4 April 1999);
7. Monastery of St. Nicholas (12th century) in the territory of the
municipality of Kursumlija (4 April 1999);
8. Monastery of St. Archangel Gabriel in Zemun (5 April 1999);
9. Roman Catholic Church St. Antonio in Djakovica (29 March 1999);
10. Orthodox cemetery in Gnjilane (30 March 1999);
11. Monuments destroyed in Bogutovac (8 April 1999);
12. "Kadinjaca" memorial complex (8 April 1999);
13. Vojlovica monastery near Pancevo (12 April 1999);
14. Hopovo monastery, iconostasis damaged (12 April 1999);
15. Orthodox Christian cemetery in Pristina (12 April 1999);
16. Monastery church St, Archangel Michael in Rakovica (16 April 1999);
17. Orthodox church St. Marco in Belgrade (24 April 1999);
18. Russian Orthodox church Holly Trinity in Belgrade (24 April 1999);

CULTURAL-HISTORICAL MONUMENTS AND MUSEUMS (9):
1. Severe damage to the roof structure of the Fortress of Petrovaradin (1
April 1999);
2. Heavy damage to "Tabacki bridge", four centuries old, in Djakovica (5
April 1999);
3. Substantial damage to the building in Stara Carsija (Old street) in
Djakovica (5 April 1999);
4. Destroyed archives housed in one of the Government buildings in
Belgrade (3 April 1999);
5. Memorial complex in Gucevo (Loznica);
6. Memorial complex "Sumarice" in Kragujevac;
7. Vojvodina Museum in Novi Sad;
8. Old Military Barracks in Kragujevac - under the protection of the state
(16 April 1999);
9. Memorial complex Crveni Krst in Nis (21 April 1999);
(Jugoslavija, 12 April 2010, 21:12)

B92 i edited it myself, can you please write to me where there is anything that should be censored. thanks.

Trudsmaan, HB, Sin City...
Please you have ignored my whole post, and again started with the classic "FALSE ACCUSATION ASSUALT" the Croats and Muslims have so masterfully applied to in any political argument. First, I will answer your question, to be Serb means to go after the Truth, to fight for Freedom and Justice. We are the same right? Is that why muslims raped serbian women for 500 years, took every first born son back to turkey and impaled Serbian men with wooden stakes? Did Serbs rule over Muslims for 500 years and enslave them? Please stop saying we are the same, give me facts that show that we are the same. No we are not. On which side did croatia fight on in WWI? Serbia was alone surronded by enemies that NEVER knew what justice, freedom and truth meant, those enemies were Bulgaria, Muslim Bosnia, Albanians from Kosovo and Albania, Slovenia, Hungary, Croatia, all these countries fought joyfully in WWI and they LOST. So STOP saying we are the same when you have no historical facts to show they are same. STOP dodging my posts and answer me. I have answered you repeatedly with FACTS, not accusatory statements. I haven't accused of anything except losing your Serbian spirit, which is apparent because you are not seeking the TRUTH. I am not positined on any one side, in fact it is safe to say I hate serbia sometimes for letting that dumb CROAT leader Tito ruin our beautiful Serbia, and punish my grandfather and father. So, if anything a big part of me resents serbia for embracing a croatian leader that killed so many serbs, those are facts!!!!!!!!!! not false accusations.
Watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USzvU7l9_3E

when you are done, if you can stomach it then tell me CROATS and SERBS are the same and I am an acupucnturist and chinese medicine doctor and work in big medical group and i can give you the number to good psychiatrist. We ARE NOT THE SAME. PERIOD. Historical facts prove this, not just my words.
Your house was bombed, but you survived so thank God for that. But, you don't get it CROATIA started a war Serbs never wanted. Here is proof

HB, exactly my point, your Croatian army has always been known as the worst of the worst, you are not soldiers and you never have been. You lived under Austrian rule and learned art while Serbs were fighting for their very existence for centuries under the cruelest oppression you couldn't even begin to imagine under ISLAM. That separated us. JNA never took dubrovnik cause it wasn't theres to take, they didn't want to take it...they were leading a defensive war, protecting the soverignty of YUGOSLAVIA. FACT.

SINCITY - did the vatican tell you that or did Germany? cause guess what all the world knows that there was never a referendem!!!!! that is why there was a war, bosnia declared itself an Islamic state and Serbs will never live under ISLAM again. Croatia took away the status of Serbs in the country and unilaterlly declared independence these are FACTS! that is why there was a war, and give me a break, young poor Serbs in Krajina fought your army that was supplied by Iran, Germany, and all the vatican countires and you still couldn't do anything until NATO and the US came in. What a great victory, you croats have always needed oppressive empires to fight on your behalf, austria-hungary, nazi germany, nato-US the most oppressive FACTS.

I challenge all three of you to dispute anything I just wrote.

I challenge all three of you especially trudsmaan to give me answers concerning these issues.

1. why is kosovo cleansed almost completely of serbs?

2. why is Krajina serbian land for centuries clean of serbs.

3. why is sarajevo completely empty of serbs?

why does serbia have 900,000 refugees?

while you are thinking here is more PROOF, something none of you guys have about the TRUTH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_scokGJga8c

watch it and be ashamed.

This is a political tactic. Most Croat citizens wouldn't dare to bring themselves this low. Then again, extremists are everywhere.

Political seems more logical than emotional.

Truudsman,
Almost daily proof, of why we were never brothers, we are not brothers, and why we will never be brothers. You see who harbors HATE. We SERBS don't carry that HATE, have you been to Belgrade, go see the spirit, it is unmatched anywhere in the world. It is the Spirit of Freedom, freedom from hate, from insecurity, from guilt, from the past.

We brought devastation in Dubrovnik? Huh? Speak for yourself- Croatia illegaly declared independence from Yugoslavia, without a referendem without the right of the people's votes counted! Texas did the same without a referendem the US military would have gutted Texas inside and out until it came back to the US. And destruction what destruction? A few houses? HOw many people died during the Croatian provoke of the Yugoslav navy. The Dubrovnik case was analyzed completely and it was shown that CROATIAN military was firing upon Yugoslav navy from locations that were against Geneva War Conventions just like the Muslims did in Sarajevo. Come on brate see through to the truth. We Serbs have never and will never start anything. It has always been and it always will be.

Truudsman,
Almost daily proof, of why we were never brothers, we are not brothers, and why we will never be brothers. You see who harbors HATE. We SERBS don't carry that HATE, have you been to Belgrade, go see the spirit, it is unmatched anywhere in the world. It is the Spirit of Freedom, freedom from hate, from insecurity, from guilt, from the past.
(Taylor)
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Ok, let's say these were extremist thugs. You mean to tell me they speak for ALL Croatians? Both us Serbs and the Croatians have reasons to be angry at each other. I agree with what you say they have done to us, but do you remember what we did to defenseless Dubrovnik? I have a summer home in Dubrovnik and when I had to flee with my family from the war we couldnt understand how we could be attacking/bombing OURSELVES. We brought devastation to Dubrovnik, and in the end we didn't even take it; so what was the point. Dalmatia according to history is Serbian land.

And yes, beautiful Beograd has the spirit that will stay in the souls of all those who visit. The people are special with a specific charm and humbleness that no one can forget or let go of easily. There is something special in Beograd, something no one can put in words, one can go and experience this energy for themselves. So to you Taylor i say... share your charm and humbleness we are all guilty and must begin to face-ourselves not each-other, then and only then will there be peace amongst us brothers and sisters.

Truudsman,
what don't you understand? We never attacked Dubrovnik, croats attacked the Yugoslav navy...Croatia ILLEGALLY DECLARED INDEPENDENCE - what don't you understand about that? Are you serious? Yugoslavia had all rights to defend its territory from formation of military structures on it's soil. Just like US would do if texas or any other country would do that is why militaries are the most expensive sectors of any country's spending TO PROTECT ITSELF from people who declare independence on their own soil without a vote. Serbs never got to vote. How many people died in Dubrovnik? Please tell me? How can you be so foolish? DO you know that 82 bridges across SErbia were destroyed? 160 factories? 17 hospitals? do you want me to go on? And you cry for a few roof tiles in dubrovnik? why because it is on the sea and omg it is so beautiful so a few roofs are more valuable then a whole country's infrastructure ARE YOU SERIOUS! My friend you are lost but I don't blame you the world has taught you to hate yourself. Just as the world has taught the Jews to hate themselves. Most Serbs I know are so ashamed they would never say they are Serbs. Yet, Serbs are like no others in the world because no other people fought for freedom like the Serb and paid the heaviest price in history. That is a fact if you want evidence I can give you it all day and all night - just ask. Tell me something if your croatia is such a beautiful place then why did they make poor farmers walk on foot to bosnia. over 300,000 of them? Come on give me your Croatian answer? Was it because of the Serbian army that this happened, haha save it man. You don't get it, educate yourself with facts, not CNN and BBC. You still don't get it there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, just like there was no genocide and ethnic cleansing by Serbs of Croats, Muslims, ALbanians. If you are so democratic why don't you help Croatia to become multi-ethnic again? You live among the most racially pure states in the world. Why is Kosovo almost completely clean of Serbs? Why have 150 churches disappered in the last 5 years? Why is Sarajevo completley cleansed of Serbs? Please answer me these questions with facts not the same lies repeated over and over again milosevic's fault his plan for a greater Serbia. Name me one speech where Milosevic said anything bad about anyone and I will give you all the money in my bank account which is a lot...i can give you countless of examples of hate from Croatian leaders and Muslim and Albanian leaders. Give me some facts, you keep saying Serbs did this and attaked this and that, I need facts. You yourself hate your own or if you don't hate you think that by going along the fairytale story the croats and muslims and Kosovo Albanians made up that you will be some kind of hero? Please you look desparate because you have no facts, zero, like every westerner who talks about the balkans the repeat the same lies that were conjured up in PR offices in london and new york. Look around you Serbia has close to 900,000 refugees...how many do albanians have = zero. How many do croats have = zero. How many do muslims have?
When are the muslims going to give back 500 years of torture, murder and enslavement of Serbs? Or do you consider Islam a peaceful religion too and what they did to Serbs Serbs brought about themselves like the Krajina poor peasents who didn't even have a pair sneakers to their name.
Truudsman, you are not a Serb and the reason i say that is because if you were you would go after the truth at all costs. You don't you live in the same fairytale accusatory world as muslims, croats, and albanians, but don't worry we are fighting hard here in the US, Australia, China and the world to show what really happened. We have the Evangelical church backing we are making movies, documentaries, books, BASED ON FACTS - real facts. Not stories of pretend victims like your best buddies in dubrovnik.

The same exact thing happened here in Cleveland, Ohio in the 90's. It's just sickening

trudsaam said....

"Political seems more logical than emotional."

REALLY??? When was the last time you went through Croatia especially the villages? Hate to break the truth to you but its not a pretty picture for Serbs in Croatia! I would dare you to go through Croatia wearing a Serbian Cross and see what happens, but that wouldn't be wise.

You can say its political, but that is an ignorant excuse. Extremists are absolutley everywhere, that is where I can agree with you.

What these extremist need to realize is the war is over and now their tax money has to repair these damages. I am sure that money can be used in developing the country instead.

Truudsman,
hand grenades on children? shame on you, shame on you. Is that what mesic told you. Give me one factual event where hand grenades were thrown at children.
You think that because you can walk around Zagreb you are free? Why don't you try to tell them about the truth about what happened there, why don't you start an organization to help refugees get back what BELONGS to them, then you will see how much your croatian brothers love you.

Judging, speculating, and concluding on such touchy events as this one before any evidence, is also a "crime". It's called attacking. No matter how subtle it may appear, it's still an attack, and it's very negative and counter productive on all levels. Give peace a chance--no one said that it was going to be easy. The people that did this act of hate should never be allowed to ruin the future of our children by "infecting' them--instead we should listen to our children, and make peace and reconciliation for them--if not for us.

Listen to the children--it's their future too.
Or do we really love our egos more than our children? The last sentence is a $64.000,000,000 question!

Or do we really love our egos more than our children? The last sentence is a $64.000,000,000 question!
(summer fun and concerts!)
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I think it's fair to say that most people on this site, will do anything at any cost to protect their egos. You hit the nail right on the head mate... Good day

And this country will soon join the EU? Well, they will fit right in. Wonder if any catholic churches in Serbia experienced the same V.I.P treatment?

Pfft...Can Croatians think of anything else.

Taylor-
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You seem to have missed my point again. The Croatian attacks were wrong, but do we make right by creating another wrong?

And don;t undermine what happened in Dubrovnik, you say a few houses? Have you ever been there mate? I am a full blooded Serb, and I have seen the destruction my people have done to that beautiful area. And please when I go to Croatia in the summer-time, whether its Zagreb, Durbovnik or Split; I dont hide my nationality, most citizens there will know I am a Serb, BUT they also know I wasn't the one throwing hand-grenades at children... You can make your excuses but the only danger here is the extremists, and you all know well how we also have extremists, So whats your point?

You cannot label a whole society based on a few individuals. We expect the same from them , right? You continue to say your open to tolerance and love, but by your statements I can see you are not.

How about someone answer my question.... SInce we attacked Dubrovnik so aggressively, why didnt we take it?

I would dare you to go through Croatia wearing a Serbian Cross and see what happens, but that wouldn't be wise.
(Gojko)
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Been there, done that. And I am doing just fine. :)

Truudsman,
hand grenades on children? shame on you, shame on you. Is that what mesic told you. Give me one factual event where hand grenades were thrown at children.
You think that because you can walk around Zagreb you are free? Why don't you try to tell them about the truth about what happened there, why don't you start an organization to help refugees get back what BELONGS to them, then you will see how much your croatian brothers love you.
(Taylor)
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Excuse me Taylor maybe I was a bit rash on the "hand-grenade" part, BUT snipers from mountain tops in Dubrovnik were in fact shooting un-armed civilians, many of them being children. And dont try to deny this; I have no reason to be Anti-Serb or Pro-Croat, I see us as ONE anyway. The facts remain, the extremists have tainted our image, and theirs.

Do you think the Croats do not know the truth? Beleive me they do, most just choose to ignore the facts, kinda like some of us... See the similarities between us brothers and sisters?

Everytime I vacation in Croatia and speak humble political with the locals, I am always told the same thing; What happened to Yugoslavia? "We used to love the Serbs vacaitoning here, what happened? now we have Westerners taking over.

So you see?

I lived in Sibenik. My neighbors as well as myself almost died from the Serb shelling. After the battle, we managed to escape with only our theatre blown up and the bridge destroyed. Not "bad" compared to what happened elsewhere.

My mother's family was from the area of Drnis. I say was because they were forced out by Serbian paramilitaries for the sole reason they were Croats. My uncle has returned and is trying to live in the area again.

Same with family friends from Kijevo, and countless others from Plitvice, Karlovac, Vrlika, Cetina area, Banovina, etc.

Please get it out of your head that there are only one set of victims. Everyone from the war is a victim. Everyone lost something. The reason some Serb property gets vandalized is because these people are still living in the past and hurting from their losses. In some part of their mind, they feel Serbs deserve these attacks because of what they did to their own Catholic churches and family villages/homes.

Of course, you don't see it this way. But hopefully I gave you some idea from the other side. Let's learn to forgive as Christians, as I'm sure many are.

Taylor;
Must I be blunt with you? My Serbian home was bombed in Dubrovnik, aswell as the whole neighbourhood it resided in. War is WAR... bottome line. The Croats are not angels either, you have PURPOSELY misunderstood me. They have initiated the whole situation in the first place BUT the people are innocent, they fell victim to the whole devastation. Beleive me I have done my research more than you can ever know... the difference between me and you is that YOU choose sides, I dont simply because we are slices cut from the same bread.

To claim I am not Serb is something of pure ignorance on your part. What is it to be a Serb ? (answer if you can)...

Remember one thing brother; Whatever it is you have to say against the Croats, the Croats have just the same amount to say about us.

I have learned this the hard-way. Once upon a time I was a "nationalist" and didn't want my people to claim responsibilty for anything. Now I know better, I know now it wasn't up to the people at all. We were all just pawns. When the war started in Croatia, the Croatians couldnt beleive it was happening, and righfully so... How can Yugoslavia bomb itself?

So please taylor... re-read my posts, with an open heart. I only speak good about our people, the Serbs were the first to realise the fatal mistake, then the Croats and then the Bosnians.

We will unite once again, and again it will remain. We cannot stop genetics ALL of us have blood (DNA) leading to the other, so why not?

Good day to you;

How about someone answer my Question.... Since we attacked Dubrovnik so aggressively, why didnt we take it? Answer: Because your so called JNA weren't good enough to take it. The Serb irregulars and the JNA never had the heart to fight as they were fighting without a cause. It;s only the Serbs who think that Slovenia, Croatia, BiH, Montenegro & Kosova broke away illegally. It appears the Serbs are always right while others are constantly wrong. It's no wonder the Serbs have trouble being accepted by the Balkan region.

Yes Taylor, the Serbs were always 'angelic' regarding their conduct in Yugoslavia's firey end ...... whatever ...

BTW, Croatia did hold a legitimate referendum, so did Slovenia and Bosnia and the majority democratically voted for independence which was allowed under the then Yugoslav constitution.

Trudsman, read below FACTS!

About 1,000 civilians, including 45 children (Click here for photos of children injured in NATO attack on a tourist bus near Pristina, Kosovo), were killed and more than
4,500 sustained serious injuries e.g.:
- in Kursumlija: 13 dead and 25 wounded;
- in Panevo: 2 dead and 4 wounded;
- in Kragujevac: over 120 workers were wounded during an attack on the car
factory "Zastava";
- in Vranje: two dead and 23 wounded;
- in Aleksinac: 12 dead and more than 40 wounded;
- in Nagavac village, Orahovac municipality: 11 dead and 5 wounded;
- in Pristina: 10 dead and 8 wounded;
- Grdelicka gorge: 55 killed and 16 wounded;
- attack on two refugee columns, with four cruise missiles, on the
Djakovica-Prizren road: 75 killed and 100 wounded, of whom 26 critically;
- in the village of Srbica: 10 killed, among whom 7 children;
- Belgrade suburb of Batajnica: a three year old girl Milica Rakic was
killed, and five civilians wounded.
- in Nis: in the attack on housing flats one civilian was killed while 11
wounded;
- in Pristina: in the attack on a Provisional Executive Council building
in the suburb Grmija, one civilian was killed while 2 wounded;
- in Djakovica: in the attack on a refugee settlement housing Serb
refugees from the Republika Srpska Krajina (Croatia), 10 refugees were
killed and 16 wounded;
- in Belgrade: in the attack on the Radio Television of Serbia office
building, 15 employees have been killed and 17 wounded;


After the demolition of the Petrovaradin bridge, Novi Sad and Petrovaradin
were cut of water supply (600 000 citizens) since the main and city
pipeline was constructed into the bridge. About one million citizens, according to Yugoslav sources, are short of water. About 500 000 workers became jobless due to the total destruction of industrial facilities all around the country. Two million citizens have no means for living and cannot ensure the minimum for existence.
Overall material damage is enormous. Preliminary estimates indicate that NATO
air strikes have incurred damages in excess of 10 billion dollars. In the
territory of the northern province of Vojvodina alone, damages have been
estimated in excess of 3,5 billion dollars.

T R A F F I C

The road and railway networks, especially road and rail bridges, most of
which were destroyed or damaged beyond repair, suffered extensive
destruction. The targets of attacks were such communications as:

1. BRIDGES (18 DESTROYED AND 12 DAMAGED):

(a) Destoyed (20)
1. The Varadin Bridge over the Danube (on 1 April 1999);
2. The "Sloboda" (Freedom) Bridge over the Danube (on 4 April 1999);
3. The "Zezeljov" Bridge in Novi Sad (on 5 April 1999);
4. The bridge over the Ibar river, Biljanovac municipality (on 5 - 13
April 1999);
5. The bridge over the Vrba.ka river near Jezgrovic (on 5 April 1999);
6. The "Lozno" railway bridge near Usfe (on 5 April 1999);
7. The road bridge on the road leading to Brvenik, near Usce (on 5 April
1999);
8. The bridge near Zubin Potok, on the Kosovska Mitrovica - Ribarice road
(on 5 April 1999);
9. The old bridge on the river Rasina near the town of Krusevac (12-13
April 1999);
10. The new bridge on the river Rasina near the town of Krusevac (12-13
April 1999);
11. The Krusevac-Pojate bridge on the river Zapadna Morava, at the village
of Jasika (on 13 April 1999);
12. The railway bridge on the river Lim, between Priboj and Prijepolje,
near hydroelectric power station Bistrica (on 15 April 1999);
13. The bridge on the river Ibar, at the village of Brvenik, linking
Korlace and Raska (15.04.1999.);
14. The bridge between Smederevo and Kovin (16 April 1999);
15. The railway bridge on the river Kostajnica, near Kursumlija
(18.04.1999.);
16. The bridge over the regional Kursumlija - Prokuplje road;
17. The bridge over the river Vrapcevska Reka near the village of
Ribarice, from the direction of Kosovska Mitrovica;
18. The bridge over the railway track on the regional road Biljanovac -
Mt. Kopaonik;
19. The railway bridge near the village of Rudnica in the vicinity of
Raska, on the Kraljevo - Kosovo Polje railway line;
20. The bridge over the Danube along the Beograd-Novi Sad road, near
Beska, Indjija municipality (on 21 April 1999);

(b) Damaged (12)
1. The "Mladosti" (Youth) Bridge over the Danube, connecting Backa Palanka
with Ilok, was damaged (on 4 April 1999);
2. The new railway/road bridge over the Danube connecting Bogojevo and
Erdut was damaged (on 5 April 1999);
3. The road bridge along the Magura Belafevac road, 15 kilometres from
Pristina, suffered extensive damage;
4. The bridge along the Nis-Pristina primary road, near Kursumlija, was
extensivelly damageg (on 5 April 1999);
5. The Grdelica gorge railway bridge, on the river Juzna Morava, was
damaged (on 12 April 1999);
6. The Grdelica gorge road bridge, on the river Juzna Morava, was damaged
(on 12 April 1999);
7. The road bridge over the Kosanica river near Kursumlija was damaged (on
13 April 1999);
8. The road bridge on the river Toplica, on the Nis-Pristina road near the
town of Kursumlija, was heavily damaged (14 and 19 April 1999);
9. The bridge on the river Kosanica, at the village of Selo Visoko, has
sustained heavy damages and is out of service 18.04.1999.);
10. The road bridge "Raskrsnica" near Donja Bistrica, on the route Priboj -
Prijepolje - Nova Varos, has sustained heavy damages (20 April 1999);
11. The railway bridge on the river Sava near Ostruznica, has been heavily
damaged (21, 23 April 1999);
12. The railway bridge on the Kraljevo - Raska railway line, near
Kraljevo, has been heavily damaged (23 April 1999);

2. RAILWAYS RAILWAY STATIONS (16):
1. The Kraljevo - Kosovo Polje rail, near Ibarska Slatina;
2. The Belgrade - Bar rail, due to the destruction of the railway track
near the village of Strbce and destruction of the bridge on the river Lim,
between Priboj and Prijepolje;
3. The Kursumlija - Prokuplje rail, near Pepeljevac village;
4. The Kraljevo - Kosovo Polje rail, near Ibarska Slatina;
5. The Nis - Pristina rail, near Kursumlija;
6. "Sarpelj" tunnel, near Jerinje village, 15 km north of Leposavic
towards Raska, was destroyed;
7. Railway station in Kraljevo (Bogutovac);
8. Railway station in Kosovo Polje;
9. The Belgrade - Thessaloniki rail, due to the destruction of the bridge
in the Grdelica gorge;
10. Railway station in the town of Biljanovac;
11. Railway track and overpass (Josinacka Banja) near the town of
Biljanovac;
12. Railway track Kursumlija - Podujevo, due to damages on the railway
bridge at Kursumlija; 13. Railway track Kraljevo - Kragujevac, due to
damages to the section of the track near the village of Vitanovac;
14. Railway track Uzice - Priboj:
15. Railway track Bogojevo - Vukovar;
16. Railway Track Leskovac - Predejane;

3. ROADS AND TRANSPORTERS (6 MAJOR ROADS):
1. Ibarska primary road, due to damages to the bridge on the Ibar river,
Biljanovac municipality, and destruction of the road between Pozega and
Cacak;
2. Belgrade-Zagreb highway, near Stari Banovci;
3. Traffic suspended on the Kosovska Mitrovica-Ribarici section of the
Adriatic highway due to the destruction of the bridge over the Vrbacka
river;
4. "Jedinstvo" bus station in Vranje sustained extensive damage;
5. "Kosmet Prevoz" transporter in Gnjilane (a hangar full of new buses);
6. Kraljevo-Raska primary road;
7. Bus station in Pristina;
8. Traffic has been suspended on the Krusevac-Pojate road due to the
destruction of the bridge on the Zapadna Morava, in the village of Jasika;
9. Traffic has been suspended on the Nis-Pristina road, due to the fact
that the bridge on the river Toplica, near the town of Kursumlija, has
sustained heavy damage;
10. Traffic has been suspedned on the regional road Priboj - Prijepolje -
Nova Varos, due to damages inflicted on the bridge "Raskrsnica" near Donja
Bistrica;
11. Road maintenance company "Magistrala" in Pristina;
12. The Nis Central Bus Station;
13. The Pristina Bus Station;

4. AIRPORTS (7):
- "Slatina" in Pristina; "Batajnica" and "Surcin" in Belgrade; Nis
airport; "Ponikve" in Uzice; "Golubovac" in Podgorica, "Ladjevci" airport
near Kraljevo; agricultural and sports airfield in Sombor.

ECONOMIC AND CIVILIAN TARGETS, PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS

The air strikes have so far destroyed or damaged several thousand economic facilities and dwellings. In the Leskovac region alone, over 3,500 industrial facilities and
dwellings were either destroyed or damaged. The devastation is particularly bad in Pristina, Novi Sad, Aleksinac, Djakovica, Prokuplje, Gracanica, Cuprija, etc. Housing
blocks on the outskirts of Belgrade - Kijevo Knezevac, Batajnica, Jakovo, Borca, as well as the area around Pancevo have been under attack.

1. INDUSTRY AND TRADE:
The NATO attacks have targeted the factories and industrial
facilities which directly cater for the needs of the population, among
which are:

1. "Galenika" drug factory in Belgrade;
2. Industrial complex "Dvadeset Prvi Maj" in Rakovica;
3. Machine building plant "Industrija Motora Rakovica" in Rakovica;
4. Factory "Jugostroj" in Rakovica;
5. Factory "Frigostroj" in Rakovica;
6. "Lola Utva" agricultural aircraft factory in Pancevo;
7. "Zdravlje" pharmaceutical plant in Leskovac;
8. "Sloboda" white goods factory in Cacak;
9. "Din" tobacco industry in Nis;
10. "Elektronska industrija" factory in Nis;
11. "Jastrebac" machine industry in Nis;
12. Facilities of the "Beograd" rail company in Nis;
13. Construction material depot "Ogrev Invest" in Nis;
14. General merchandise depot "Kopaonik" in Nis;
15. Production line of the tobacco factory "Nis" in Nis;
16. "Elektrotehna" warehouse in Nis;
17. Food storage facility "Fidelinka" in Nis;
18. Facilities of the machine industry in Nis;
19. Office building of the company "So Produkt" in Nis;
20. Facilities of the pharmaceutical company "Velafarm" in Nis;
21. "Zastava" car factory in Kragujevac;
22. "14 Oktobar" machine factory in Krusevac;
23. Production line of the metal factory "Metalac" in Kursumlija;
24. "Krusik" holding corporation in Valjevo;
25. "Ciklonizacija" in Novi Sad;
26. "Tehnogas" in Novi Sad;
27. "Novograp" in Novi Sad;
28. "Gumins" in Novi Sad;
29. "Albus" in Novi Sad;
30. "Petar Drapsin" in Novi Sad;
31. "Motins" in Novi Sad;
32. "Izolacija" in Novi Sad;
33. "Novokabel" in Novi Sad;
34. "Istra" fittings factory in Kula;
35. The port of Bogojevo;
36. "Div" cigarette factory in Vranje;
37. "Nova Jugoslavija" printers in Vranje;
38. Furniture factor "Simpo" in Vranje;
39. Textile industry "Jumko" in Vranje;
40. Wood-processing complex "27. November" in Raska;
41. Tubes factory in Urosevac;
42. "Milan Blagojevic" chemical plant in Lucani;
43. Plastics factory in Pristina;
44. Cotton yarn factory in Pristina;
45. Shock-absorber factory in Pristina;
46. Surface coal mine "Belacevac";
47. "Binacka Morava" hydro construction company in Gnjilane;
48. Cigarette factory in Gnjilane;
49. Battery factory in Gnjilane:
50. Over 250 commercial and crafts shops in Djakovica were destroyed;
51. "Dijana" shoe factory in Sremska Mitrovica;

2. REFINERIES AND WAREHOUSES storing liquid raw materials and chemicals
intended for the oil and chemical industry, were hit in Pancevo, Novi Sad,
Sombor and elsewhere, causing large contamination of soil and the air:
1. Fuel storage in Lipovica, which caused a great fire in the Lipovica
forest (on 26 March 1999);
2. "Beopetrol" storage in Belgrade (on 4 April 1999);
3. "Beopetrol" storage in Bogutovac (4-24 April 1999);
4. Fuel storage of the boiler plant in Novi Beograd (on 4 April 1999);
5. Chemical plant "Prva Iskra" in Baric - destruction of the production
line (19 April 1999);
6. Oil Refinery in Pancevo - totally demolished (4-16 April 1999);
7. Petrochemical industry "DP HIP PETROHEMIJA" in Pancevo - totally
demolished (14-15 April 1999);
8. Fertilizer plant "DP HIP AZOTARA" in Pancevo - totally destroyed (14-15
April 1999);
9. "Jugopetrol" installations in Smederevo (on 4-13 April 1999);
10. Thermo electric power station/boiler plant in Novi Sad (on 5 April
1999);
11. Oil Refinery in Novi Sad, storage of bitumen (5 and 6 April 1999);
12. "Jugopetrol" storage in Sombor (on 7 April 1999);
13. Fuel storage "Naftagas promet" which is located 10 km from Sombor (5
April 1999);
14. Naftagas warehouse between Conoplje and Kljaicevo (Sombor);
15. "Beopetrol" fuel storage in Pristina (on 7 April 1999);
16 Jugopetrol warehouse in Pristina (on 12 April 1999);
17. Jugopetrol petrol station in Pristina ( on 13 April 1999);
18. Fuel depot in Gruua, near Kragujevac;

3. AGRICULTURE:
1. PIK "Kopaonik" in Kursumlija;
2. PIK "Mladost" in Gnjilane;
3. Agricultural Complex "Malizgan" in Dolac;
4. Agricultural Complex "Djuro Strugar" in Kula;
5. Agricultural and food-processing plant and a cow-breeding farm with 220
milk cows "Pester", in Sjenica, has been destroyed;
6. In forest fires caused by NATO cruise missiles and bombs over 250
hectares of forests have been burned down;
7. Several thousand hectares of fertile land, many rivers, lakes and
underground waters have been polluted due to the spillage of petrochemical
substances, oil spills and slicks;

4. HOSPITALS AND HEALTH CARE CENTRES (21):
NATO aviation also targeted many hospitals and health-care institutions,
which have been partially damaged or totally destroyed, including:

- Neuropsychiatric Ward "Dr. Laza Lazarevic" and Central Pharmacy of the
Emergency Centre in Belgrade;
- "Sveti Sava" hospital in Belgrade;
- Army Medical Academy in Belgrade;
- Gynaecological Hospital and Maternity Ward of the Clinical Centre in
Belgrade;
- Health Care Centre in Rakovica;
- Hospital and Medical Centre in the territory in Leskovac;
- Gerontological Centre in Leskovac;
- Hospital and Poly-clinic in Nis;
- General Hospital in Djakovica;
- City Hospital in Novi Sad;
- Medical Centre and Ambulance Centre in Aleksinac;
- Medical Centre in Kraljevo;
- Dispensary on Mount Zlatibor;
- City hospital in Valjevo;
- Dispensary "Krusik" in Valjevo;
- Hospital for treatment of dystrophia in Novi Pazar;
- Health Care Centre in Kursumlija;



5. SCHOOLS (MORE THAN 200 FACILITIES)
Over 2000 schools, faculties and facilities for students and children were
damaged or destroyed (over 25 faculties, 10 collages, 45 secondary and 90
elementary schools, 8 student dormitories, as well as a number of
kindergartens), including:
- Elementary schools "16. oktobar" and "Vladimir Rolovic" in Belgrade;
- Day-care centre in settlement Petlovo Brdo in Belgrade;
- Elementary school and Engineering secondary school centre in Rakovica;
- Two secondary schools in the territory of Nis;
- Faculty for construction and architecture in Nis;
- Faculty for machine-technical studies in Nis;
- Faculty for electro-technical studies in Nis;
- Faculties of Law and Economics and elementary school "Radoje Domanovic"
in Nis;
- Elementary schools "Toza Markovic", "Djordje Natosevic", "Veljko
Vlahovic", "Sangaj" and "Djuro Danicic" and a day-care centre "Duga" in
Novi Sad and creches in Visarionova Street and in the neighbourhood of
Sangaj; Traffic School Centre, Faculty of Philosophy;
- Four elementary schools and a Medical high school in the territory of
Leskovac;
- Elementary school in Lucane, as well as a larger number of education
facilities in the territory of Kosovo and Metohija;
- Elementary schools in Kraljevo and the villages of Cvetka, Aketa and
Ladjevci;
- In Sombor: elementary schools "Ivo Lola Ribar", "A. Mrazovic", "N.
Vukicevic" and
"Nikola Tesla"
- School centre in Kula;
- Agricultural school in Valjevo;

6. PUBLIC AND HOUSING FACILITIES (TENS OF THOUSANDS)
- The residence of the President of the FR of Yugoslvia in Belgrade,
sustained heavy damages (22 April 1999);
- Severe damage to the facilities of the Republican and Federal Ministry
of the Interior in Belgrade (3 April 1999),
- Damage to the building of the Institute for Security of the Ministry of
the Interior in Banjica (3 April 1999);
- Severe damage to the TV RTS studio in Pristina;
- Heavy damage to Hydro-Meteorological Station (Bukulja, near
Arandjelovac);
- Post Office in Pristina destroyed (7 April 1999);
- Refugee centre in Pristina destroyed (7 April 1999);
- "Tornik" ski resort on Mount Zlatibor (on 8 April 1999);
- "Divcibare" mountain resort (on 11 April 1999);
- "Baciste" Hotel on Mount Kopaonik (on 12 April 1999);
- City power plant in the town of Krusevac (12-13 April 1999);
- Meteorological Station on Mount Kopaonik damaged (on 13 April 1999);
- Four libraries in Rakovica sustained heavy damage: "Radoje Dakic",
"Isidora Sekulic", "Milos Crnjanski" and "Dusan Matic";
- Refugee camp "7 juli" in Paracin has sustained heavy damage;
- Office building of the Provincial Executive Council of Vojvodina, Novi
Sad (18.04.1999.);
- Hotel "Mineral" in Bogutovacka Banja sustained heavy damages (19 Aptil
1999);
- Office building of the power distribution board "Elektrodistribucija" in
Kursumlija (20 April 1999);
- Hotel "Putnik" on Mt. Kopaonik;
- Bussiness centre "Usce" in Belgrade (21 April 1999);
- Refugee camp "Majino naselje" in Djakovica (21 April 1999);
- Radio Television of Serbia office building in Belgrade (23 April 1999);
- Youth and children centre in Belgrade (23 April 1999);
- Youth theater "Dusko Radovic" in Belgrade (23 April 1999);
- Post Office in Nis (23 April 1999);
- Several thousand housing facilities damaged or destroyed, privately or
State owned, across Yugoslavia - most striking examples being housing
blocks in downtown Aleksinac and those near Post Office in Pristina.

7. INFRASTRUCTURE:
- Damage to a power supply transmitted in Batajnica (26 March 1999);
- Damage to water supply system in Zemun (5 April 1999);
- Damage to a power supply transmitter in Bogutovac (10 April 1999);
- Telephone lines cut off in Bogutovac (10 April 1999);
- Damage to a power station in Pristina (12 April 1999);
- Damage to Bistrica hydroelectric power station in Polinje (13 April 1999);
- Damage to electric power transmission lines and distribution network in
the zone under air stikes by NATO enemy aircraft;
- Destruction of power supply transmitters in Belgrade suburbs of Resnik
and Zemun Polje (23 April 1999);

TELECOMMUNICATIONS

TV TRANSMITTERS (23):
1. Jastrebac (Prokuplje)
2. Gucevo (Loznica)
3. Cot (Fruska Gora)
4. Grmija (Pristina)
5. Bogutovac (Pristina)
6. TV transmitter on Mt Goles (Pristina)
7. Mokra Gora (Pristina)
8. Kutlovac (Stari Trg)
9. "Cigota" (Uzice)
10. "Tornik" (Uzice)
11. Transmitter on Crni Vrh (Jagodina)
12. Satellite station "Yugoslavia" (in Prilike near Ivanjica)
13. TV masts and transmitters (Novi Sad)
14. TV transmitter on Mt Ovcara (Cacak)
15. TV transmitter in Kijevo (Belgrade)
16. TV transmitter on Mt Cer
17. Relay on Mt Jagodnji (Krupanj)
18. TV transmitter "Iriski Venac" (Fruska Gora)
19. TV relay on Mt. Bukulja;
20. Transmitter in Gazimestan (Pristina);
21. RTV transmitter in Krnjaca (Belgrade);
22. RTV transmitter on Mt. Gobelj (Mt. Kopaonik);
23. RTV transmitter on top of the business centre "Usce" used by RTV
Kosava, RTV Pink, SOS channel, TV BK and Radio S (Belgrade);

CULTURAL-HISTORICAL MONUMENTS
AND RELIGIOUS SHRINES

MEDIEVAL MONASTERIES AND RELIGIOUS SHRINES (18):
1. Monastery Gracanica from 14th century (24 March - 6 April 1999);
2. Monastery Rakovica from 17th century (29 March 1999);
3. Patriarchate of Pec (1 April 1999);
4. Church in Jelasnica near Surdulica (4 April 1999);
5. Monastery of the Church of St. Juraj (built in 1714) in Petrovaradin (1
April 1999);
6. Monastery of Holy Mother (12th century) at the estuary of the Kosanica
in the Toplica - territory of municipality of Kursumlija (4 April 1999);
7. Monastery of St. Nicholas (12th century) in the territory of the
municipality of Kursumlija (4 April 1999);
8. Monastery of St. Archangel Gabriel in Zemun (5 April 1999);
9. Roman Catholic Church St. Antonio in Djakovica (29 March 1999);
10. Orthodox cemetery in Gnjilane (30 March 1999);
11. Monuments destroyed in Bogutovac (8 April 1999);
12. "Kadinjaca" memorial complex (8 April 1999);
13. Vojlovica monastery near Pancevo (12 April 1999);
14. Hopovo monastery, iconostasis damaged (12 April 1999);
15. Orthodox Christian cemetery in Pristina (12 April 1999);
16. Monastery church St, Archangel Michael in Rakovica (16 April 1999);
17. Orthodox church St. Marco in Belgrade (24 April 1999);
18. Russian Orthodox church Holly Trinity in Belgrade (24 April 1999);

CULTURAL-HISTORICAL MONUMENTS AND MUSEUMS (9):
1. Severe damage to the roof structure of the Fortress of Petrovaradin (1
April 1999);
2. Heavy damage to "Tabacki bridge", four centuries old, in Djakovica (5
April 1999);
3. Substantial damage to the building in Stara Carsija (Old street) in
Djakovica (5 April 1999);
4. Destroyed archives housed in one of the Government buildings in
Belgrade (3 April 1999);
5. Memorial complex in Gucevo (Loznica);
6. Memorial complex "Sumarice" in Kragujevac;
7. Vojvodina Museum in Novi Sad;
8. Old Military Barracks in Kragujevac - under the protection of the state
(16 April 1999);
9. Memorial complex Crveni Krst in Nis (21 April 1999);
(Jugoslavija, 12 April 2010, 21:12)

B92 i edited it myself, can you please write to me where there is anything that should be censored. thanks.

Trudsmaan, HB, Sin City...
Please you have ignored my whole post, and again started with the classic "FALSE ACCUSATION ASSUALT" the Croats and Muslims have so masterfully applied to in any political argument. First, I will answer your question, to be Serb means to go after the Truth, to fight for Freedom and Justice. We are the same right? Is that why muslims raped serbian women for 500 years, took every first born son back to turkey and impaled Serbian men with wooden stakes? Did Serbs rule over Muslims for 500 years and enslave them? Please stop saying we are the same, give me facts that show that we are the same. No we are not. On which side did croatia fight on in WWI? Serbia was alone surronded by enemies that NEVER knew what justice, freedom and truth meant, those enemies were Bulgaria, Muslim Bosnia, Albanians from Kosovo and Albania, Slovenia, Hungary, Croatia, all these countries fought joyfully in WWI and they LOST. So STOP saying we are the same when you have no historical facts to show they are same. STOP dodging my posts and answer me. I have answered you repeatedly with FACTS, not accusatory statements. I haven't accused of anything except losing your Serbian spirit, which is apparent because you are not seeking the TRUTH. I am not positined on any one side, in fact it is safe to say I hate serbia sometimes for letting that dumb CROAT leader Tito ruin our beautiful Serbia, and punish my grandfather and father. So, if anything a big part of me resents serbia for embracing a croatian leader that killed so many serbs, those are facts!!!!!!!!!! not false accusations.
Watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USzvU7l9_3E

when you are done, if you can stomach it then tell me CROATS and SERBS are the same and I am an acupucnturist and chinese medicine doctor and work in big medical group and i can give you the number to good psychiatrist. We ARE NOT THE SAME. PERIOD. Historical facts prove this, not just my words.
Your house was bombed, but you survived so thank God for that. But, you don't get it CROATIA started a war Serbs never wanted. Here is proof

HB, exactly my point, your Croatian army has always been known as the worst of the worst, you are not soldiers and you never have been. You lived under Austrian rule and learned art while Serbs were fighting for their very existence for centuries under the cruelest oppression you couldn't even begin to imagine under ISLAM. That separated us. JNA never took dubrovnik cause it wasn't theres to take, they didn't want to take it...they were leading a defensive war, protecting the soverignty of YUGOSLAVIA. FACT.

SINCITY - did the vatican tell you that or did Germany? cause guess what all the world knows that there was never a referendem!!!!! that is why there was a war, bosnia declared itself an Islamic state and Serbs will never live under ISLAM again. Croatia took away the status of Serbs in the country and unilaterlly declared independence these are FACTS! that is why there was a war, and give me a break, young poor Serbs in Krajina fought your army that was supplied by Iran, Germany, and all the vatican countires and you still couldn't do anything until NATO and the US came in. What a great victory, you croats have always needed oppressive empires to fight on your behalf, austria-hungary, nazi germany, nato-US the most oppressive FACTS.

I challenge all three of you to dispute anything I just wrote.

I challenge all three of you especially trudsmaan to give me answers concerning these issues.

1. why is kosovo cleansed almost completely of serbs?

2. why is Krajina serbian land for centuries clean of serbs.

3. why is sarajevo completely empty of serbs?

why does serbia have 900,000 refugees?

while you are thinking here is more PROOF, something none of you guys have about the TRUTH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_scokGJga8c

watch it and be ashamed.