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Monday, 19.04.2010.

14:52

Klaus criticizes EU leaders over Kaczynski funeral

Czech President Vaclav Klaus slammed EU officials for failing to attend the funeral of Poland's President Lech Kaczynski and his wife in Krakow on Sunda

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D.Popovic

pre 14 godina

"Next task: get the jasmin rice on Gagarin blvd. in Novi BG."
Ataman
If you need any kind of help let me know, My family lives in blok 70, and many friends: -)

Joe

pre 14 godina

"This is the Hungarian "reality on the ground", Luigi. And the last thing we do before leaving ANY foreign country - Austria included: tank the car full, all 60 liters."
Ataman

Yes, you are right. Whenever I spend few weeks in Hungary it is in Vas and Gyor-Sopron megye. Yes, people buy gaz in Austria and sometimes other things too depending on the exchange rate fluctuations. Many people work in Austria, sometimes in houshold cleaning to make ends meet.
I got to that region in the last 10 years by chance...since I spent my childhood in Szabolcs-Szatmar, perhaps the poorest area now (not visited for a long time).
Thank you for the info about passport renewal. I want to take the courageous step to apologize for some of my remarks. I think my frustration with the consulate contributed to it but I should have handled it differently....not attack you in a stupid way. Sorry for it.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

This weekend went to Slovakia for milk.
0.5% milk is in Slovakia 0.45 Euro, in Hungary about 1 Euro. This is a "speciality" milk.
Now it was 0.39 Euro - so I did buy 144 liters.

Further critical places: Emona in Vucitrn, a large supermarket on Ibarska before Cacak and the Metro before Osijek.

Next task: get the jasmin rice on Gagarin blvd. in Novi BG.

The (not-so) minivan is used to fullest extent.

Unfortunately the NET (after-tax) salaries are among the lowest in the region, roughly at the Pristina level. Unfortunately the prices are 2 x Pristina, many things cost three or more times - beginning with Nutella and ending with Feta cheese made in... Hungary.

This is the Hungarian "reality on the ground", Luigi. And the last thing we do before leaving ANY foreign country - Austria included: tank the car full, all 60 liters.

The only thing what is cheaper than anywhere else is wine. I guess, Hungarian politicians want people have some little fun at last.

szemi

pre 14 godina

Being in Hungary lately all this stuff of widespread poverty seems all absurd...
Situation isn't rosy but no apocalypse in Budapest
(luigi, 20 April 2010 11:51)

There is no apocalypse in BP,but country and BP where the average salery is double of the national are two different things:I wonder if you have visited Somogy or Borsod counties.
Spending some days in Bp spas and around tourist areas will not give you true picture.
and everything has dramaticly deterireted after EU accesion.

luigi

pre 14 godina

Being in Hungary lately all this stuff of widespread poverty seems all absurd...
Situation isn't rosy but no apocalypse in Budapest

szemi

pre 14 godina

My sister tells me the same on the phone. A cousin from Budapest informed me that in some churches in and around Budapest people try to collect food for poor children because according to teachers there are some who have just one meal per day, the meal they get in school. This is very sad. I get emotional, when I hear about suffering or hungry children. If I would live there I would definitely do my best to help.
(Joe, 20 April 2010 01:51)

Unfortunatelly this is an existing phenomanon.Our family is in the habit of cooking and inviting guests almost every evening.On such occasions we discuss politics,sports etc.I happen to watch the kids of invited people.They eat as if they had not got enough food during the day.I do not remember this kind of faces 10 or even 5 years ago.Food has never been a problem in Hungary.And on top of all that these are the children of mainly proffesional people not the working class.When I go to Poland I always bring a lot of food for myself and my aquintances.Despite growing prices over there it is still possible to buy dairy products sausages and canned food at much lower price than in Hungary.(30-50 percent less).I usually bring hundreds of soup powder bags and hand out among my friends.They cost on the average 200-300 ft per bag in Hungary while I can obtain them in Poland for 60-90 Ft per bag.

Peter Sudyka

pre 14 godina

Very well said, Joe! For once we agree.

Yes, the EU has an elitist hierarchy based on what looks like some Cold War East-West schism, and why Eastern European countries will never be regarded as truly equal members of the club.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Pretty unusual to see Szemi and Joe agree. And what they agree on is in my opinion, too, correct. Does not look good for EU.

BTW: Joe, did you read the long essay how to re-new your passport and re-establish the citizenship? All relevant addresses are there. Curious, how will it work.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=66500

Joe

pre 14 godina

"but on the other hand people have less and less money put aside for buying anything but the staple needs".
szemi

My sister tells me the same on the phone. A cousin from Budapest informed me that in some churches in and around Budapest people try to collect food for poor children because according to teachers there are some who have just one meal per day, the meal they get in school. This is very sad. I get emotional, when I hear about suffering or hungry children. If I would live there I would definitely do my best to help.

szemi

pre 14 godina

I fully agree with you. If it were a Germam head of state all EU heads would have congregated to Berlin. This is double standard, what I always disliked with the EU. The Eastern European countries were always handled like members of second categories. Big difference with the USA, where all 50 states are egal.
(Joe, 19 April 2010 18:33)

Here I must say Joe that your comment rules.I hope very much that the letters EU soon will stand for Evaporated Utopia.I do not know if anything ever has cuased so much harm to Easter Europian agricultures as well as middle and small scale enterpraises(espesially Hungarian).
I do not say that there are only disadvantages.I for instance can obtain and ship products for my shop selling soccer related goods from many more sources and much lower price than during then pre -EU period but on the other hand people have less and less money put aside for buying anything but the staple needs.

adrian/bucharest

pre 14 godina

Never quite liked this Czech guy, but I'd go with him on this one. Plus Obama going to play golf after canceling the trip.
Seemed like a sort of ex-Warsaw Pact reunion in Cracovia.

Joe

pre 14 godina

EU unity, that's an empty phrase. I wonder if a German head of state was killed, whether other EU heads would have found a way to be in Berlin? The glue that keeps them together is the Euro, and that glue is getting thinner by the day. My condolences to the Polish nation.
winston

I fully agree with you. If it were a Germam head of state all EU heads would have congregated to Berlin. This is double standard, what I always disliked with the EU. The Eastern European countries were always handled like members of second categories. Big difference with the USA, where all 50 states are egal.

winston

pre 14 godina

EU unity, that's an empty phrase. I wonder if a German head of state was killed, whether other EU heads would have found a way to be in Berlin? The glue that keeps them together is the Euro, and that glue is getting thinner by the day. My condolences to the Polish nation.

Luigi

pre 14 godina

mr.Klaus is 50% right.. certainly the ashes from the Volcano were a good excuse for many (including from Italy where in 4 hours by elicopter a trip was possible) for spending a weekend home rather than in Krakow but one must remember also how many problems Mr.Kachinsky caused to EU during his term in office ..(remember what Angela Merkel said about the twins during her Eu presidency) ..Certainly at least Van Rompy , Barroso and someone from Spain could have been at the funeral...

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

"We have seen that all those grand phrases about European unity are really nothing but clichés,"
-
Too right, this statement shouldn't be taken too lightly. To be "European" is an oximoron as is. The term flies around, just as much as the term "genocide" flew around in the 90's. Completely out of proportion.

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

"We have seen that all those grand phrases about European unity are really nothing but clichés,"
-
Too right, this statement shouldn't be taken too lightly. To be "European" is an oximoron as is. The term flies around, just as much as the term "genocide" flew around in the 90's. Completely out of proportion.

winston

pre 14 godina

EU unity, that's an empty phrase. I wonder if a German head of state was killed, whether other EU heads would have found a way to be in Berlin? The glue that keeps them together is the Euro, and that glue is getting thinner by the day. My condolences to the Polish nation.

Joe

pre 14 godina

EU unity, that's an empty phrase. I wonder if a German head of state was killed, whether other EU heads would have found a way to be in Berlin? The glue that keeps them together is the Euro, and that glue is getting thinner by the day. My condolences to the Polish nation.
winston

I fully agree with you. If it were a Germam head of state all EU heads would have congregated to Berlin. This is double standard, what I always disliked with the EU. The Eastern European countries were always handled like members of second categories. Big difference with the USA, where all 50 states are egal.

Luigi

pre 14 godina

mr.Klaus is 50% right.. certainly the ashes from the Volcano were a good excuse for many (including from Italy where in 4 hours by elicopter a trip was possible) for spending a weekend home rather than in Krakow but one must remember also how many problems Mr.Kachinsky caused to EU during his term in office ..(remember what Angela Merkel said about the twins during her Eu presidency) ..Certainly at least Van Rompy , Barroso and someone from Spain could have been at the funeral...

szemi

pre 14 godina

I fully agree with you. If it were a Germam head of state all EU heads would have congregated to Berlin. This is double standard, what I always disliked with the EU. The Eastern European countries were always handled like members of second categories. Big difference with the USA, where all 50 states are egal.
(Joe, 19 April 2010 18:33)

Here I must say Joe that your comment rules.I hope very much that the letters EU soon will stand for Evaporated Utopia.I do not know if anything ever has cuased so much harm to Easter Europian agricultures as well as middle and small scale enterpraises(espesially Hungarian).
I do not say that there are only disadvantages.I for instance can obtain and ship products for my shop selling soccer related goods from many more sources and much lower price than during then pre -EU period but on the other hand people have less and less money put aside for buying anything but the staple needs.

adrian/bucharest

pre 14 godina

Never quite liked this Czech guy, but I'd go with him on this one. Plus Obama going to play golf after canceling the trip.
Seemed like a sort of ex-Warsaw Pact reunion in Cracovia.

Joe

pre 14 godina

"This is the Hungarian "reality on the ground", Luigi. And the last thing we do before leaving ANY foreign country - Austria included: tank the car full, all 60 liters."
Ataman

Yes, you are right. Whenever I spend few weeks in Hungary it is in Vas and Gyor-Sopron megye. Yes, people buy gaz in Austria and sometimes other things too depending on the exchange rate fluctuations. Many people work in Austria, sometimes in houshold cleaning to make ends meet.
I got to that region in the last 10 years by chance...since I spent my childhood in Szabolcs-Szatmar, perhaps the poorest area now (not visited for a long time).
Thank you for the info about passport renewal. I want to take the courageous step to apologize for some of my remarks. I think my frustration with the consulate contributed to it but I should have handled it differently....not attack you in a stupid way. Sorry for it.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Pretty unusual to see Szemi and Joe agree. And what they agree on is in my opinion, too, correct. Does not look good for EU.

BTW: Joe, did you read the long essay how to re-new your passport and re-establish the citizenship? All relevant addresses are there. Curious, how will it work.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=66500

Ataman

pre 14 godina

This weekend went to Slovakia for milk.
0.5% milk is in Slovakia 0.45 Euro, in Hungary about 1 Euro. This is a "speciality" milk.
Now it was 0.39 Euro - so I did buy 144 liters.

Further critical places: Emona in Vucitrn, a large supermarket on Ibarska before Cacak and the Metro before Osijek.

Next task: get the jasmin rice on Gagarin blvd. in Novi BG.

The (not-so) minivan is used to fullest extent.

Unfortunately the NET (after-tax) salaries are among the lowest in the region, roughly at the Pristina level. Unfortunately the prices are 2 x Pristina, many things cost three or more times - beginning with Nutella and ending with Feta cheese made in... Hungary.

This is the Hungarian "reality on the ground", Luigi. And the last thing we do before leaving ANY foreign country - Austria included: tank the car full, all 60 liters.

The only thing what is cheaper than anywhere else is wine. I guess, Hungarian politicians want people have some little fun at last.

Joe

pre 14 godina

"but on the other hand people have less and less money put aside for buying anything but the staple needs".
szemi

My sister tells me the same on the phone. A cousin from Budapest informed me that in some churches in and around Budapest people try to collect food for poor children because according to teachers there are some who have just one meal per day, the meal they get in school. This is very sad. I get emotional, when I hear about suffering or hungry children. If I would live there I would definitely do my best to help.

Peter Sudyka

pre 14 godina

Very well said, Joe! For once we agree.

Yes, the EU has an elitist hierarchy based on what looks like some Cold War East-West schism, and why Eastern European countries will never be regarded as truly equal members of the club.

szemi

pre 14 godina

My sister tells me the same on the phone. A cousin from Budapest informed me that in some churches in and around Budapest people try to collect food for poor children because according to teachers there are some who have just one meal per day, the meal they get in school. This is very sad. I get emotional, when I hear about suffering or hungry children. If I would live there I would definitely do my best to help.
(Joe, 20 April 2010 01:51)

Unfortunatelly this is an existing phenomanon.Our family is in the habit of cooking and inviting guests almost every evening.On such occasions we discuss politics,sports etc.I happen to watch the kids of invited people.They eat as if they had not got enough food during the day.I do not remember this kind of faces 10 or even 5 years ago.Food has never been a problem in Hungary.And on top of all that these are the children of mainly proffesional people not the working class.When I go to Poland I always bring a lot of food for myself and my aquintances.Despite growing prices over there it is still possible to buy dairy products sausages and canned food at much lower price than in Hungary.(30-50 percent less).I usually bring hundreds of soup powder bags and hand out among my friends.They cost on the average 200-300 ft per bag in Hungary while I can obtain them in Poland for 60-90 Ft per bag.

luigi

pre 14 godina

Being in Hungary lately all this stuff of widespread poverty seems all absurd...
Situation isn't rosy but no apocalypse in Budapest

szemi

pre 14 godina

Being in Hungary lately all this stuff of widespread poverty seems all absurd...
Situation isn't rosy but no apocalypse in Budapest
(luigi, 20 April 2010 11:51)

There is no apocalypse in BP,but country and BP where the average salery is double of the national are two different things:I wonder if you have visited Somogy or Borsod counties.
Spending some days in Bp spas and around tourist areas will not give you true picture.
and everything has dramaticly deterireted after EU accesion.

D.Popovic

pre 14 godina

"Next task: get the jasmin rice on Gagarin blvd. in Novi BG."
Ataman
If you need any kind of help let me know, My family lives in blok 70, and many friends: -)

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

"We have seen that all those grand phrases about European unity are really nothing but clichés,"
-
Too right, this statement shouldn't be taken too lightly. To be "European" is an oximoron as is. The term flies around, just as much as the term "genocide" flew around in the 90's. Completely out of proportion.

Luigi

pre 14 godina

mr.Klaus is 50% right.. certainly the ashes from the Volcano were a good excuse for many (including from Italy where in 4 hours by elicopter a trip was possible) for spending a weekend home rather than in Krakow but one must remember also how many problems Mr.Kachinsky caused to EU during his term in office ..(remember what Angela Merkel said about the twins during her Eu presidency) ..Certainly at least Van Rompy , Barroso and someone from Spain could have been at the funeral...

winston

pre 14 godina

EU unity, that's an empty phrase. I wonder if a German head of state was killed, whether other EU heads would have found a way to be in Berlin? The glue that keeps them together is the Euro, and that glue is getting thinner by the day. My condolences to the Polish nation.

adrian/bucharest

pre 14 godina

Never quite liked this Czech guy, but I'd go with him on this one. Plus Obama going to play golf after canceling the trip.
Seemed like a sort of ex-Warsaw Pact reunion in Cracovia.

Joe

pre 14 godina

EU unity, that's an empty phrase. I wonder if a German head of state was killed, whether other EU heads would have found a way to be in Berlin? The glue that keeps them together is the Euro, and that glue is getting thinner by the day. My condolences to the Polish nation.
winston

I fully agree with you. If it were a Germam head of state all EU heads would have congregated to Berlin. This is double standard, what I always disliked with the EU. The Eastern European countries were always handled like members of second categories. Big difference with the USA, where all 50 states are egal.

szemi

pre 14 godina

I fully agree with you. If it were a Germam head of state all EU heads would have congregated to Berlin. This is double standard, what I always disliked with the EU. The Eastern European countries were always handled like members of second categories. Big difference with the USA, where all 50 states are egal.
(Joe, 19 April 2010 18:33)

Here I must say Joe that your comment rules.I hope very much that the letters EU soon will stand for Evaporated Utopia.I do not know if anything ever has cuased so much harm to Easter Europian agricultures as well as middle and small scale enterpraises(espesially Hungarian).
I do not say that there are only disadvantages.I for instance can obtain and ship products for my shop selling soccer related goods from many more sources and much lower price than during then pre -EU period but on the other hand people have less and less money put aside for buying anything but the staple needs.

Joe

pre 14 godina

"but on the other hand people have less and less money put aside for buying anything but the staple needs".
szemi

My sister tells me the same on the phone. A cousin from Budapest informed me that in some churches in and around Budapest people try to collect food for poor children because according to teachers there are some who have just one meal per day, the meal they get in school. This is very sad. I get emotional, when I hear about suffering or hungry children. If I would live there I would definitely do my best to help.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Pretty unusual to see Szemi and Joe agree. And what they agree on is in my opinion, too, correct. Does not look good for EU.

BTW: Joe, did you read the long essay how to re-new your passport and re-establish the citizenship? All relevant addresses are there. Curious, how will it work.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=66500

Peter Sudyka

pre 14 godina

Very well said, Joe! For once we agree.

Yes, the EU has an elitist hierarchy based on what looks like some Cold War East-West schism, and why Eastern European countries will never be regarded as truly equal members of the club.

szemi

pre 14 godina

My sister tells me the same on the phone. A cousin from Budapest informed me that in some churches in and around Budapest people try to collect food for poor children because according to teachers there are some who have just one meal per day, the meal they get in school. This is very sad. I get emotional, when I hear about suffering or hungry children. If I would live there I would definitely do my best to help.
(Joe, 20 April 2010 01:51)

Unfortunatelly this is an existing phenomanon.Our family is in the habit of cooking and inviting guests almost every evening.On such occasions we discuss politics,sports etc.I happen to watch the kids of invited people.They eat as if they had not got enough food during the day.I do not remember this kind of faces 10 or even 5 years ago.Food has never been a problem in Hungary.And on top of all that these are the children of mainly proffesional people not the working class.When I go to Poland I always bring a lot of food for myself and my aquintances.Despite growing prices over there it is still possible to buy dairy products sausages and canned food at much lower price than in Hungary.(30-50 percent less).I usually bring hundreds of soup powder bags and hand out among my friends.They cost on the average 200-300 ft per bag in Hungary while I can obtain them in Poland for 60-90 Ft per bag.

luigi

pre 14 godina

Being in Hungary lately all this stuff of widespread poverty seems all absurd...
Situation isn't rosy but no apocalypse in Budapest

szemi

pre 14 godina

Being in Hungary lately all this stuff of widespread poverty seems all absurd...
Situation isn't rosy but no apocalypse in Budapest
(luigi, 20 April 2010 11:51)

There is no apocalypse in BP,but country and BP where the average salery is double of the national are two different things:I wonder if you have visited Somogy or Borsod counties.
Spending some days in Bp spas and around tourist areas will not give you true picture.
and everything has dramaticly deterireted after EU accesion.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

This weekend went to Slovakia for milk.
0.5% milk is in Slovakia 0.45 Euro, in Hungary about 1 Euro. This is a "speciality" milk.
Now it was 0.39 Euro - so I did buy 144 liters.

Further critical places: Emona in Vucitrn, a large supermarket on Ibarska before Cacak and the Metro before Osijek.

Next task: get the jasmin rice on Gagarin blvd. in Novi BG.

The (not-so) minivan is used to fullest extent.

Unfortunately the NET (after-tax) salaries are among the lowest in the region, roughly at the Pristina level. Unfortunately the prices are 2 x Pristina, many things cost three or more times - beginning with Nutella and ending with Feta cheese made in... Hungary.

This is the Hungarian "reality on the ground", Luigi. And the last thing we do before leaving ANY foreign country - Austria included: tank the car full, all 60 liters.

The only thing what is cheaper than anywhere else is wine. I guess, Hungarian politicians want people have some little fun at last.

Joe

pre 14 godina

"This is the Hungarian "reality on the ground", Luigi. And the last thing we do before leaving ANY foreign country - Austria included: tank the car full, all 60 liters."
Ataman

Yes, you are right. Whenever I spend few weeks in Hungary it is in Vas and Gyor-Sopron megye. Yes, people buy gaz in Austria and sometimes other things too depending on the exchange rate fluctuations. Many people work in Austria, sometimes in houshold cleaning to make ends meet.
I got to that region in the last 10 years by chance...since I spent my childhood in Szabolcs-Szatmar, perhaps the poorest area now (not visited for a long time).
Thank you for the info about passport renewal. I want to take the courageous step to apologize for some of my remarks. I think my frustration with the consulate contributed to it but I should have handled it differently....not attack you in a stupid way. Sorry for it.

D.Popovic

pre 14 godina

"Next task: get the jasmin rice on Gagarin blvd. in Novi BG."
Ataman
If you need any kind of help let me know, My family lives in blok 70, and many friends: -)