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Saturday, 17.04.2010.

12:48

Serbian airspace closed for flights

The airspace over Serbia, Montenegro and parts of Bosnia-Herzegovina was closed for air traffic at 16:00 CET on Saturday.

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Ataman

pre 14 godina

I am suprised why Prishtina International Airport was not mentioned here. Ove 40 flights were cancelled today , but any flight coming from south it landed. Case and point was Turkish airline that carried many Serbs, actually some famous singers that were bound from Istanbul to Belgrade. They were very happy that were able to make it to Pristina, and the bus ride was being arranged for them to head towards Belgrade.
(Kosova-USA, 17 April 2010 19:41)

They were probably last lucky ones. Things go pretty bad and I was shocked to learn, many people are ripped off royally because many credit cards in Europe are pretty bad and it is unclear for me, do they in EU have somewhat like "Fair Credit Act". The lesion for everyone: look at the contract with the bank card or credit card about the case of non-delivery of service. For American credit cards the case is clear. Not-so-clear with debit cards, most don't have such provision. European-issued "plastic" is an other question. For instance, Serbian or Hungarian is pretty bad, German is safer to use.

For you (Kosova-USA, Jason, Mike, etc.) the case is clear, use American credit cards and have SkyPe.

BTW: American credit cards (or debit cards) also mean "Foreign Exchange Fee", can be as bad as 3-4% for any transaction outside of USA, even if it is in Dollars.

Use Charles Schwab (no experience), Capital One (pretty nasty for southern part of Kosovo, OK in north) or USAA / Pentagon Federal / Andrews banking /credit cards. Charles Schwab does not like people like "Ataman" or "Kosova-USA" just because we tend to live overseas and in their infinite wisdom they don't want it. It's against the regulations - but you probably do not want to call them and swear at them every time they try to cancel your account. Capital One credit cards have absolutely no Forex Exchange Fee - but Capital One does not like South Kosovo. They would block transactions for no reason.

USAA/Pentagon Federal/Andrews are awesome. True, they have 1% forex fee - but their credit and debit cards have cash-back of at least 2% which does offset the inconvenience. These are in theory for U.S. servicemen - but everyone with US citizenship can join by calling the bank or Credit Union and asking the sales people for help how to do it. Andrews debit cards do not even have 1% forex fee, they have $1 foreign ATM fee - and that's all.

Warning for Chase: if anyone here has Chase account and has things like "Overseas travel or living" in mind - urgently close the account and open with USAA or Pentagon Federal or Andrews. Chase fees are a total rip off to begin with - and if an ATM is broken (imagine, there are some broken ATM-s in Serbia or Hungary, who would think!) than getting the money from the live person at bank is automatically 3% fee atop of an other 3% for foreign exchange, that's 6%.

Best local bank in Central Europe seem to be "Unicredit" - no fees to get the money from own ATM-s, even in an other country. I am very much underwhelmed with all Reiffeisen-s and Sparkasse and OTP :-(

Ataman

pre 14 godina

"They were probably last lucky ones. Things go pretty bad"

Did not finish - here I mean, airports are closing at rapid pace as the cloud spreads. Pristina, Skopje, Athens seem to be OK, very soon likely closed, too. People can't fly and in many cases they lose the money because they used "wrong" credit card buying tickets.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

I am suprised why Prishtina International Airport was not mentioned here. Ove 40 flights were cancelled today , but any flight coming from south it landed. Case and point was Turkish airline that carried many Serbs, actually some famous singers that were bound from Istanbul to Belgrade. They were very happy that were able to make it to Pristina, and the bus ride was being arranged for them to head towards Belgrade.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Good example why good rail infrastructure is not a useless thing.

To continue my debate with John.

Railway requires the highest time for capital turnaround while being the fastest mean to propel the country to wellness.

In other words: if you are an investor, than building a good-quality railway will benefit you much later than doing anything else. At the same time the good quality rail infrastructure benefits the country faster, than good quality road network.

Railway is like the healthcare: you can't do it for business directly, it won't work. But if you neglect it, than people (or the country) will be sick.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Good example why good rail infrastructure is not a useless thing.

To continue my debate with John.

Railway requires the highest time for capital turnaround while being the fastest mean to propel the country to wellness.

In other words: if you are an investor, than building a good-quality railway will benefit you much later than doing anything else. At the same time the good quality rail infrastructure benefits the country faster, than good quality road network.

Railway is like the healthcare: you can't do it for business directly, it won't work. But if you neglect it, than people (or the country) will be sick.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

I am suprised why Prishtina International Airport was not mentioned here. Ove 40 flights were cancelled today , but any flight coming from south it landed. Case and point was Turkish airline that carried many Serbs, actually some famous singers that were bound from Istanbul to Belgrade. They were very happy that were able to make it to Pristina, and the bus ride was being arranged for them to head towards Belgrade.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

I am suprised why Prishtina International Airport was not mentioned here. Ove 40 flights were cancelled today , but any flight coming from south it landed. Case and point was Turkish airline that carried many Serbs, actually some famous singers that were bound from Istanbul to Belgrade. They were very happy that were able to make it to Pristina, and the bus ride was being arranged for them to head towards Belgrade.
(Kosova-USA, 17 April 2010 19:41)

They were probably last lucky ones. Things go pretty bad and I was shocked to learn, many people are ripped off royally because many credit cards in Europe are pretty bad and it is unclear for me, do they in EU have somewhat like "Fair Credit Act". The lesion for everyone: look at the contract with the bank card or credit card about the case of non-delivery of service. For American credit cards the case is clear. Not-so-clear with debit cards, most don't have such provision. European-issued "plastic" is an other question. For instance, Serbian or Hungarian is pretty bad, German is safer to use.

For you (Kosova-USA, Jason, Mike, etc.) the case is clear, use American credit cards and have SkyPe.

BTW: American credit cards (or debit cards) also mean "Foreign Exchange Fee", can be as bad as 3-4% for any transaction outside of USA, even if it is in Dollars.

Use Charles Schwab (no experience), Capital One (pretty nasty for southern part of Kosovo, OK in north) or USAA / Pentagon Federal / Andrews banking /credit cards. Charles Schwab does not like people like "Ataman" or "Kosova-USA" just because we tend to live overseas and in their infinite wisdom they don't want it. It's against the regulations - but you probably do not want to call them and swear at them every time they try to cancel your account. Capital One credit cards have absolutely no Forex Exchange Fee - but Capital One does not like South Kosovo. They would block transactions for no reason.

USAA/Pentagon Federal/Andrews are awesome. True, they have 1% forex fee - but their credit and debit cards have cash-back of at least 2% which does offset the inconvenience. These are in theory for U.S. servicemen - but everyone with US citizenship can join by calling the bank or Credit Union and asking the sales people for help how to do it. Andrews debit cards do not even have 1% forex fee, they have $1 foreign ATM fee - and that's all.

Warning for Chase: if anyone here has Chase account and has things like "Overseas travel or living" in mind - urgently close the account and open with USAA or Pentagon Federal or Andrews. Chase fees are a total rip off to begin with - and if an ATM is broken (imagine, there are some broken ATM-s in Serbia or Hungary, who would think!) than getting the money from the live person at bank is automatically 3% fee atop of an other 3% for foreign exchange, that's 6%.

Best local bank in Central Europe seem to be "Unicredit" - no fees to get the money from own ATM-s, even in an other country. I am very much underwhelmed with all Reiffeisen-s and Sparkasse and OTP :-(

Ataman

pre 14 godina

"They were probably last lucky ones. Things go pretty bad"

Did not finish - here I mean, airports are closing at rapid pace as the cloud spreads. Pristina, Skopje, Athens seem to be OK, very soon likely closed, too. People can't fly and in many cases they lose the money because they used "wrong" credit card buying tickets.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

I am suprised why Prishtina International Airport was not mentioned here. Ove 40 flights were cancelled today , but any flight coming from south it landed. Case and point was Turkish airline that carried many Serbs, actually some famous singers that were bound from Istanbul to Belgrade. They were very happy that were able to make it to Pristina, and the bus ride was being arranged for them to head towards Belgrade.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Good example why good rail infrastructure is not a useless thing.

To continue my debate with John.

Railway requires the highest time for capital turnaround while being the fastest mean to propel the country to wellness.

In other words: if you are an investor, than building a good-quality railway will benefit you much later than doing anything else. At the same time the good quality rail infrastructure benefits the country faster, than good quality road network.

Railway is like the healthcare: you can't do it for business directly, it won't work. But if you neglect it, than people (or the country) will be sick.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

I am suprised why Prishtina International Airport was not mentioned here. Ove 40 flights were cancelled today , but any flight coming from south it landed. Case and point was Turkish airline that carried many Serbs, actually some famous singers that were bound from Istanbul to Belgrade. They were very happy that were able to make it to Pristina, and the bus ride was being arranged for them to head towards Belgrade.
(Kosova-USA, 17 April 2010 19:41)

They were probably last lucky ones. Things go pretty bad and I was shocked to learn, many people are ripped off royally because many credit cards in Europe are pretty bad and it is unclear for me, do they in EU have somewhat like "Fair Credit Act". The lesion for everyone: look at the contract with the bank card or credit card about the case of non-delivery of service. For American credit cards the case is clear. Not-so-clear with debit cards, most don't have such provision. European-issued "plastic" is an other question. For instance, Serbian or Hungarian is pretty bad, German is safer to use.

For you (Kosova-USA, Jason, Mike, etc.) the case is clear, use American credit cards and have SkyPe.

BTW: American credit cards (or debit cards) also mean "Foreign Exchange Fee", can be as bad as 3-4% for any transaction outside of USA, even if it is in Dollars.

Use Charles Schwab (no experience), Capital One (pretty nasty for southern part of Kosovo, OK in north) or USAA / Pentagon Federal / Andrews banking /credit cards. Charles Schwab does not like people like "Ataman" or "Kosova-USA" just because we tend to live overseas and in their infinite wisdom they don't want it. It's against the regulations - but you probably do not want to call them and swear at them every time they try to cancel your account. Capital One credit cards have absolutely no Forex Exchange Fee - but Capital One does not like South Kosovo. They would block transactions for no reason.

USAA/Pentagon Federal/Andrews are awesome. True, they have 1% forex fee - but their credit and debit cards have cash-back of at least 2% which does offset the inconvenience. These are in theory for U.S. servicemen - but everyone with US citizenship can join by calling the bank or Credit Union and asking the sales people for help how to do it. Andrews debit cards do not even have 1% forex fee, they have $1 foreign ATM fee - and that's all.

Warning for Chase: if anyone here has Chase account and has things like "Overseas travel or living" in mind - urgently close the account and open with USAA or Pentagon Federal or Andrews. Chase fees are a total rip off to begin with - and if an ATM is broken (imagine, there are some broken ATM-s in Serbia or Hungary, who would think!) than getting the money from the live person at bank is automatically 3% fee atop of an other 3% for foreign exchange, that's 6%.

Best local bank in Central Europe seem to be "Unicredit" - no fees to get the money from own ATM-s, even in an other country. I am very much underwhelmed with all Reiffeisen-s and Sparkasse and OTP :-(

Ataman

pre 14 godina

"They were probably last lucky ones. Things go pretty bad"

Did not finish - here I mean, airports are closing at rapid pace as the cloud spreads. Pristina, Skopje, Athens seem to be OK, very soon likely closed, too. People can't fly and in many cases they lose the money because they used "wrong" credit card buying tickets.