"Solution for genocide suits to be found"

"So, the Serbian "countersuit" was nothing more but a bargaining ship, not relating to justice or righteousness.
(John, 17 April 2010 12:31) "

Put it this way, this is what happens when the original plantiff itself did not come to court with clean hands in the first place. Still not convinced that Croatia may have skeletons in its own closet? Then ask the president himself -- he just apologized to Bosnia.

So, the Serbian "countersuit" was nothing more but a bargaining ship, not relating to justice or righteousness.

Well allow me to say this; the past is the past, the present is the present and bright future can only be attainable through peace and brotherly love.

Hanging on to the pain of the past will not resolve or heal anything. At this point aren't we all confused on who to "hate", I mean yes Serbs, Croat, and Bosniaks have all commited crimes, but what needs to clearly understood is that the biggest crime of all is to allow the destruction and devastation of our home Yugoslavia, and with our home falling, our people have feel with it suffering.

We are the Southern Slavs, and must unite once again to attain the prosperity we once had, and are destined to have together. Divided we have fallen, but with unity we can rebuild,,, Good day my people :)

As long as there is good will on both sides, I'm all for reconciliation. Both sides need to prosecute war criminals and we need to see the return of hundreds of thousands of Serbians back to their homes in Croatia.

"As long as there is good will on both sides, I'm all for reconciliation. Both sides need to prosecute war criminals and we need to see the return of hundreds of thousands of Serbians back to their homes in Croatia.
(Zoran, 17 April 2010 13:54)"

and while we're at it, maybe we can see the return of the thousands of Croats back to their homes in the Serbian Republic of Bosnia (not likely).

Truudsman,
Go unite with Croats on your own, Serbs don't need Croats, Muslims ever again, we forgave them twice and twice they slaughtered us. NEVER again. Do not speak for Serbs, we have been fools too many times before. Yes, I am for peace, but they never have been and they never will be and they are NOT our brothers. Serbia for Serbia, Royal Serbia for Serbs.
(Taylor)
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Listen mate, it is the mentality that your demonstrating that has brough us all down to our knees; Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks. Politically speaking I completly understand your frustration, but you need to realize that the people, our people as a whole have been victimized by these warlords.

Genetically speaking we are the same, and POLITICS has divided us. It is our own fault that we have fallen for the trap, but now it is easy to see this fact.

The citizens from all sides never wanted these devastations to happen. It was all under "POLITICAL" orders. Did you know that it was us Serbs who were protesting the most harshly against the civil war in Beograd? Back then we already knew.

So why don't you?

Taylor-

I hope your realize that Serbian Chetniks that were fighting for Serbia this past war are the same Chetniks that supported Hitler's Nazis.

You act as if Serbs have done no wrong in the past.

You cry murder for WW2 (ehich Serbia is not entirely guilt-free of) and completely ignore what ethnic Serbs in Bosnia and Croatia have been responsible for (i.e. Srebrenica, Vukovar).

You justify these crimes committed by your people with crimes that were committed on your people?

It just becomes an endless back and forth that escalates to nowhere.

If Serbia and Croatia agree on their united future, and if they are able to gather the strength to look at the problems of the past in a way that is not traditional, if the governments have joint sessions and if one day they share the same history text books, this will show the honest desire and readiness for us to take new responsibilities in this new era, in order to project the future of the entire region,” Tadić said. B92

Tadic and Josipovic are our gift that manifested from the "mud" of the Balkans like the lotus. Let us wake up and embrace and trust all the real peace makers, for they know that they are truly blessed, while most of us don't.

They are our gift from the Universe, just like this quote:

'The past is undone in the present, thereby releasing the future"

croatia broke up Yugoslavia and now wants to rebuild it. Tadic is a moron if he is going to believe the croations.We forgave them once before when they had the policy of 33% kill, 33% convert and 33% deport. The policy was finally completed 50 years later. Serbia has got all to gain and nothing lose unlike croatia.

Truudsman,
Fine I give you that we are the same genetically, but that is where the similiarities STOP. In WWI Serbs lost almost their entire population while the Croats, Albanians, and Muslims smiled at our tragedy and fought with their masters the Austrians. In WWII Hitler came to Zagreb and the population threw roses at his feet. WE ARE NOT THE SAME. As you know if you know anything about genetics, genes play only a partial role in the development of a human, FREE WILL is what separates Croats, Albanians, Muslims on one sides and Serbs on the other. Serbs by their own free will stood up against oppression everytime, and everytime they may have been slaughtered but they died for freedom and with justice in their hearts. Meanwhile, Croats, Muslims, Albanians have taken the knife out of the oppressors hand and with eager killed. Sorry we are not the same, they had their chance to pick freedom over oppression and they DIDNT. ANd they still show their hate and black hearts, with their songs of serbian children burning, murdered, slaughtered. Croats celebrate the FACT that their country is almost ethnically pure and the day that Serbs, poor peasants walked to Bosnia, on foot and by tractor, they think that is their GREATEST military triumph. Over 150 churches in the last few years gone, erased in Kosovo? These are people or animals? These are one and the same as Serbs? No my friend, you are wrong. We Serbs will never be fools again, we will forgive, we will be for peace, but we will never ever let you be with us ever again. My grandfather told us something a long time ago long before the war in the 90's, he said you can play with them, you can be friends with them, but never spend the night at a Croat's or Muslims house. Why did he say this...because he knew the HATE these people had for us Serbs. Serbs don't hate, most Serbs I know are ashamed to even say they are Serbian. How the world was fooled by Arab/muslim money and German arrogance to believe that Serbs are Nationalists.

“If Serbia and Croatia agree on their united future, and if they are able to gather the strength to look at the problems of the past in a way that is not traditional. The new way is like the old ways you sweep your victims away we sweep ours they all get denial to justice every one lives happily ever after. Or do they its so simple and moronic of the simpletons to come up with that idea it sure reeks the hole smelly idea of it.

"If Serbia and Croatia agree on their united future, and if they are able to gather the strength to look at the problems of the past in a way that is not traditional, if the governments have joint sessions and if one day they share the same history text books, this will show the honest desire and readiness for us to take new responsibilities in this new era, in order to project the future of the entire region,” Tadić said."


Now the world may witness an ancient rivalry dissolve in the laying of swords.

Learning is change and at the very least they be doing something different.

This could be the advent of a new way of walking side by side folks, with no one ahead nor behind. No one is bigger nor smaller, badder nor better, more nor less redeemed. All win and no one loses.

Truudsman,
Go unite with Croats on your own, Serbs don't need Croats, Muslims ever again, we forgave them twice and twice they slaughtered us. NEVER again. Do not speak for Serbs, we have been fools too many times before. Yes, I am for peace, but they never have been and they never will be and they are NOT our brothers. Serbia for Serbia, Royal Serbia for Serbs.

Taylor-
It seems to me there isn't anything I can say to open your eyes. You are blinded by rage, hate and anger. How can you say that "you" forgive? It doesn't seem so.

All sides have their reasons for "hating" each other. I agree with you what happened to us historically and how we were back stabbed on many numerous occasions, but this was all POLITICAL, do you know what this means? Many Croat families had taken Serbs in their home, to protect them against the Ustasha, you forget so easily. Many Serbs have taken Muslims in theirs to protect against the brutality. We are ONE we knew this then, and we know this now, don't fall for "THEIR" trap. We have ALL been fooled to many times. Good day brate

Trudsmaan,
Why do Croats have reasons to hate Serbs? Was it because after WWI, when the world offered us most of the balkans for suffering the greatest death and destruction in the world, Serbs said no, and allowed Croatia to be apart of the Kingdom that Serbs and only SERBS died for? Was it because in WWII the Serbs freed up lands on the coast and instead of taking it for themselves when again only the SERBS on the entire balkan pennisula with exception of Greece were the only ones to fight as a state and as a people against Nazi Croatia and Nazi Germany and all the other nazis surrounding Serbia? Which one is it? Or maybe it is after WWII when Serbs never prosecuted one of the 10's of thousands of criminals from Croatia? And Serbs forgave them instead of taking what was rightfully Serbia's Krajina and the Lands of Serbs that world recognizes as modern day croatia? I can go on and on, there is no reason to hate Serbs from their side we forgave them always...we have reason to HATE, but here is the best part, all your accusations, you became just like croats and muslims and albanians its called false accusatory attack - it is well known and studied in psych. It is when a person, group, nation is so guilty the only thing they can do is accuse. You are accusing me of hate, yet nothing that i have wrote in my comments have anything even remotely close to hate. You my friend are wrong again, you are wrong about many things but the greatest thing you are wrong about is Serbs hating. We don't hate. ANd we have evidence over centuries to show that, what do Croats have? Muslims? Albanians? Flags that flew as symbols of hate as a state and as a people. Get this through your head Croatia as a state had one policy to kill 1/3, expel 1/3, convert 1/3 of their serbian population this is fact. Unlike you grasping for straws saying things like oh yah well their were croats who saved Serbs from the ustasha, oh yah? well then name me them I have money and a lot of it for the Serbian cause and I will make a documentary on this family, but guess what there isn't any. Because the people of Croatia were behind the state and even if there were a few who stood for justice and God's truth well that doesn't change croatia as a whole, or muslims who for 500 years raped Serbia. Please, save it. I have no hate, but I will educate and spend all my recources and do everything i can to protect promote and cherish the Truth and part of that truth is Croats, Muslims, Albanians, have and will never be my brother or any Serbian's brother - brate.

No proof of Srebrenica? Are you serious?

The whole Dutch government had to step down from power because for failing to prevent the Serbs from killing those civilians.

Joseph,
there you croats, muslims and albanians go with the same fairy tale stories of Cetniks fighting with Nazis. My friend you can read countless books by eyewitness American military who spent months with Draza himself and the Cetniks, here are just a couple "The Forgotten 500" and the book written by Major James Inks called "Eight Bailed Out." I have facts, where are you facts. I am sick and tired of croats and muslims just saying anything and expecting tthe world to believe it!!! you have no proof of anything!!! Not of Srebrencia, not of anything. Serbs have evidence, facts. Not Public Relations firms like Ruder and Finn, and CNN owned by Muslims. We don't need to deceive the Truth. We have nothing to hide. You guys think by repeating the same lie about the Cetniks that it will eventually come true. Haha. Nice try. The Serbian flag was the only flag ever in the history of the USA to be raised in place of the American flag at the White House. That is a fact. In 1948 Cetniks commander in chief was given the LEGION OF MERIT award!!! hello!!!! do you understand what that is!!! please give it up.

yes I am serious. Give me facts a list of names. Victims. Evidence that they were executed. I can give you proof about 500 years of Isalmic torture of Serbs, WWI killings of Serbs by croats, muslims, albanians. And WWII slaughter of 100,000s of thousands of Serbs. In the 90's hundreds of thousands of farmers, poor people who walked on foot to Bosnia of which over 1000 were executed, burned alive or tortured from Krajina. I can give you evidence that KOSOVO is almost completely cleansed of Serbs, so is Sarajevo and so is Croatia. I can give you list of names of over 3000 serbs killed and murdered in Srebrenica by Muslims.
I am waiting for evidence. Not CNN reports or BBC commentaries, I mean real evidence.
Waiting...

So, the Serbian "countersuit" was nothing more but a bargaining ship, not relating to justice or righteousness.

croatia broke up Yugoslavia and now wants to rebuild it. Tadic is a moron if he is going to believe the croations.We forgave them once before when they had the policy of 33% kill, 33% convert and 33% deport. The policy was finally completed 50 years later. Serbia has got all to gain and nothing lose unlike croatia.

"So, the Serbian "countersuit" was nothing more but a bargaining ship, not relating to justice or righteousness.
(John, 17 April 2010 12:31) "

Put it this way, this is what happens when the original plantiff itself did not come to court with clean hands in the first place. Still not convinced that Croatia may have skeletons in its own closet? Then ask the president himself -- he just apologized to Bosnia.

As long as there is good will on both sides, I'm all for reconciliation. Both sides need to prosecute war criminals and we need to see the return of hundreds of thousands of Serbians back to their homes in Croatia.

“If Serbia and Croatia agree on their united future, and if they are able to gather the strength to look at the problems of the past in a way that is not traditional. The new way is like the old ways you sweep your victims away we sweep ours they all get denial to justice every one lives happily ever after. Or do they its so simple and moronic of the simpletons to come up with that idea it sure reeks the hole smelly idea of it.

Truudsman,
Go unite with Croats on your own, Serbs don't need Croats, Muslims ever again, we forgave them twice and twice they slaughtered us. NEVER again. Do not speak for Serbs, we have been fools too many times before. Yes, I am for peace, but they never have been and they never will be and they are NOT our brothers. Serbia for Serbia, Royal Serbia for Serbs.

Joseph,
there you croats, muslims and albanians go with the same fairy tale stories of Cetniks fighting with Nazis. My friend you can read countless books by eyewitness American military who spent months with Draza himself and the Cetniks, here are just a couple "The Forgotten 500" and the book written by Major James Inks called "Eight Bailed Out." I have facts, where are you facts. I am sick and tired of croats and muslims just saying anything and expecting tthe world to believe it!!! you have no proof of anything!!! Not of Srebrencia, not of anything. Serbs have evidence, facts. Not Public Relations firms like Ruder and Finn, and CNN owned by Muslims. We don't need to deceive the Truth. We have nothing to hide. You guys think by repeating the same lie about the Cetniks that it will eventually come true. Haha. Nice try. The Serbian flag was the only flag ever in the history of the USA to be raised in place of the American flag at the White House. That is a fact. In 1948 Cetniks commander in chief was given the LEGION OF MERIT award!!! hello!!!! do you understand what that is!!! please give it up.

yes I am serious. Give me facts a list of names. Victims. Evidence that they were executed. I can give you proof about 500 years of Isalmic torture of Serbs, WWI killings of Serbs by croats, muslims, albanians. And WWII slaughter of 100,000s of thousands of Serbs. In the 90's hundreds of thousands of farmers, poor people who walked on foot to Bosnia of which over 1000 were executed, burned alive or tortured from Krajina. I can give you evidence that KOSOVO is almost completely cleansed of Serbs, so is Sarajevo and so is Croatia. I can give you list of names of over 3000 serbs killed and murdered in Srebrenica by Muslims.
I am waiting for evidence. Not CNN reports or BBC commentaries, I mean real evidence.
Waiting...

Truudsman,
Fine I give you that we are the same genetically, but that is where the similiarities STOP. In WWI Serbs lost almost their entire population while the Croats, Albanians, and Muslims smiled at our tragedy and fought with their masters the Austrians. In WWII Hitler came to Zagreb and the population threw roses at his feet. WE ARE NOT THE SAME. As you know if you know anything about genetics, genes play only a partial role in the development of a human, FREE WILL is what separates Croats, Albanians, Muslims on one sides and Serbs on the other. Serbs by their own free will stood up against oppression everytime, and everytime they may have been slaughtered but they died for freedom and with justice in their hearts. Meanwhile, Croats, Muslims, Albanians have taken the knife out of the oppressors hand and with eager killed. Sorry we are not the same, they had their chance to pick freedom over oppression and they DIDNT. ANd they still show their hate and black hearts, with their songs of serbian children burning, murdered, slaughtered. Croats celebrate the FACT that their country is almost ethnically pure and the day that Serbs, poor peasants walked to Bosnia, on foot and by tractor, they think that is their GREATEST military triumph. Over 150 churches in the last few years gone, erased in Kosovo? These are people or animals? These are one and the same as Serbs? No my friend, you are wrong. We Serbs will never be fools again, we will forgive, we will be for peace, but we will never ever let you be with us ever again. My grandfather told us something a long time ago long before the war in the 90's, he said you can play with them, you can be friends with them, but never spend the night at a Croat's or Muslims house. Why did he say this...because he knew the HATE these people had for us Serbs. Serbs don't hate, most Serbs I know are ashamed to even say they are Serbian. How the world was fooled by Arab/muslim money and German arrogance to believe that Serbs are Nationalists.

Well allow me to say this; the past is the past, the present is the present and bright future can only be attainable through peace and brotherly love.

Hanging on to the pain of the past will not resolve or heal anything. At this point aren't we all confused on who to "hate", I mean yes Serbs, Croat, and Bosniaks have all commited crimes, but what needs to clearly understood is that the biggest crime of all is to allow the destruction and devastation of our home Yugoslavia, and with our home falling, our people have feel with it suffering.

We are the Southern Slavs, and must unite once again to attain the prosperity we once had, and are destined to have together. Divided we have fallen, but with unity we can rebuild,,, Good day my people :)

Truudsman,
Go unite with Croats on your own, Serbs don't need Croats, Muslims ever again, we forgave them twice and twice they slaughtered us. NEVER again. Do not speak for Serbs, we have been fools too many times before. Yes, I am for peace, but they never have been and they never will be and they are NOT our brothers. Serbia for Serbia, Royal Serbia for Serbs.
(Taylor)
-
Listen mate, it is the mentality that your demonstrating that has brough us all down to our knees; Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks. Politically speaking I completly understand your frustration, but you need to realize that the people, our people as a whole have been victimized by these warlords.

Genetically speaking we are the same, and POLITICS has divided us. It is our own fault that we have fallen for the trap, but now it is easy to see this fact.

The citizens from all sides never wanted these devastations to happen. It was all under "POLITICAL" orders. Did you know that it was us Serbs who were protesting the most harshly against the civil war in Beograd? Back then we already knew.

So why don't you?

Trudsmaan,
Why do Croats have reasons to hate Serbs? Was it because after WWI, when the world offered us most of the balkans for suffering the greatest death and destruction in the world, Serbs said no, and allowed Croatia to be apart of the Kingdom that Serbs and only SERBS died for? Was it because in WWII the Serbs freed up lands on the coast and instead of taking it for themselves when again only the SERBS on the entire balkan pennisula with exception of Greece were the only ones to fight as a state and as a people against Nazi Croatia and Nazi Germany and all the other nazis surrounding Serbia? Which one is it? Or maybe it is after WWII when Serbs never prosecuted one of the 10's of thousands of criminals from Croatia? And Serbs forgave them instead of taking what was rightfully Serbia's Krajina and the Lands of Serbs that world recognizes as modern day croatia? I can go on and on, there is no reason to hate Serbs from their side we forgave them always...we have reason to HATE, but here is the best part, all your accusations, you became just like croats and muslims and albanians its called false accusatory attack - it is well known and studied in psych. It is when a person, group, nation is so guilty the only thing they can do is accuse. You are accusing me of hate, yet nothing that i have wrote in my comments have anything even remotely close to hate. You my friend are wrong again, you are wrong about many things but the greatest thing you are wrong about is Serbs hating. We don't hate. ANd we have evidence over centuries to show that, what do Croats have? Muslims? Albanians? Flags that flew as symbols of hate as a state and as a people. Get this through your head Croatia as a state had one policy to kill 1/3, expel 1/3, convert 1/3 of their serbian population this is fact. Unlike you grasping for straws saying things like oh yah well their were croats who saved Serbs from the ustasha, oh yah? well then name me them I have money and a lot of it for the Serbian cause and I will make a documentary on this family, but guess what there isn't any. Because the people of Croatia were behind the state and even if there were a few who stood for justice and God's truth well that doesn't change croatia as a whole, or muslims who for 500 years raped Serbia. Please, save it. I have no hate, but I will educate and spend all my recources and do everything i can to protect promote and cherish the Truth and part of that truth is Croats, Muslims, Albanians, have and will never be my brother or any Serbian's brother - brate.

"As long as there is good will on both sides, I'm all for reconciliation. Both sides need to prosecute war criminals and we need to see the return of hundreds of thousands of Serbians back to their homes in Croatia.
(Zoran, 17 April 2010 13:54)"

and while we're at it, maybe we can see the return of the thousands of Croats back to their homes in the Serbian Republic of Bosnia (not likely).

Taylor-

I hope your realize that Serbian Chetniks that were fighting for Serbia this past war are the same Chetniks that supported Hitler's Nazis.

You act as if Serbs have done no wrong in the past.

You cry murder for WW2 (ehich Serbia is not entirely guilt-free of) and completely ignore what ethnic Serbs in Bosnia and Croatia have been responsible for (i.e. Srebrenica, Vukovar).

You justify these crimes committed by your people with crimes that were committed on your people?

It just becomes an endless back and forth that escalates to nowhere.

If Serbia and Croatia agree on their united future, and if they are able to gather the strength to look at the problems of the past in a way that is not traditional, if the governments have joint sessions and if one day they share the same history text books, this will show the honest desire and readiness for us to take new responsibilities in this new era, in order to project the future of the entire region,” Tadić said. B92

Tadic and Josipovic are our gift that manifested from the "mud" of the Balkans like the lotus. Let us wake up and embrace and trust all the real peace makers, for they know that they are truly blessed, while most of us don't.

They are our gift from the Universe, just like this quote:

'The past is undone in the present, thereby releasing the future"

"If Serbia and Croatia agree on their united future, and if they are able to gather the strength to look at the problems of the past in a way that is not traditional, if the governments have joint sessions and if one day they share the same history text books, this will show the honest desire and readiness for us to take new responsibilities in this new era, in order to project the future of the entire region,” Tadić said."


Now the world may witness an ancient rivalry dissolve in the laying of swords.

Learning is change and at the very least they be doing something different.

This could be the advent of a new way of walking side by side folks, with no one ahead nor behind. No one is bigger nor smaller, badder nor better, more nor less redeemed. All win and no one loses.

Taylor-
It seems to me there isn't anything I can say to open your eyes. You are blinded by rage, hate and anger. How can you say that "you" forgive? It doesn't seem so.

All sides have their reasons for "hating" each other. I agree with you what happened to us historically and how we were back stabbed on many numerous occasions, but this was all POLITICAL, do you know what this means? Many Croat families had taken Serbs in their home, to protect them against the Ustasha, you forget so easily. Many Serbs have taken Muslims in theirs to protect against the brutality. We are ONE we knew this then, and we know this now, don't fall for "THEIR" trap. We have ALL been fooled to many times. Good day brate

No proof of Srebrenica? Are you serious?

The whole Dutch government had to step down from power because for failing to prevent the Serbs from killing those civilians.