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Thursday, 15.04.2010.

12:04

Police get warrant to arrest Kurti

Kosovo police, KPS, received a warrant from the District Court of Priština to arrest Albin Kurti unless he shows up in court on Friday.

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Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

I was discussing the United States' Revolutionary War and how it does not compare one iota with the KLA's campaign of terrorism.
(Jason, 17 April 2010 19:13)

As I said Jason this is your opinion. However me and Johnny could not care less about what and how you qualify things after everything that happened in Kosovo during 90's is well documented, filmed and is there for everyone to see. Furthermore I experienced that in my skin.
Unfortunately this only tells me about your intelectual level and about how poor is the mission if it has such limited minds like you involved in it.
The Kurti's case is just another example of the results that one mission can bring with people like you. You are in the mission for rule of law. According to this mission Kurti is not your priority.
We had a case few weeks ago where unknown persons desecrated serbian tombs the doing that I condemn with ths strongest terms. Also we had a case in north where two albanian citizens of northern part of Mitrovica were beaten by serbian extremists. You do not go to englighten who were those offenders but instead you elect Kurti as your priority and what is worse you call all albanians pathetic just because you are unable to arrest the person whose office might be 100 meters away from your workplace. So sad.

johny

pre 14 godina

Yea next point. Can you address Simpatiku? It seems like you are ok with state sponsored terrorism. Seeing that Hague has convicted some high Serb officials on those accusations it seems like you have made the choice, fully-aware, to throw all your support for the state sponsored terrorism of the Serbian state.
Also very lame excuse since there has been no proof of a KLA policy targeting civilians. As a matter of fact there is proof of KLA policy of not engaging civilians; but there is ample proof that the Serbian state targeted civilians, you know with 1 million of them targeted for ethnic cleansing and thousands of them murdered. Selective memory, Jason.

Jason

pre 14 godina

That is definitely not true. You can not compare the crimes of some thieves masked as UCK fighters with Serbia's sponsored state terror that happened in 1999.
(Simpatiku, 17 April 2010 15:30)

Who mentioned Serbia?

I was discussing the United States' Revolutionary War and how it does not compare one iota with the KLA's campaign of terrorism.

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

You seem to have a hard time with the difference between separatists and terrorists. The KLA were separatist terrorists because they killed civilians, deliberately. The use of violence or fear of violence against non-military targets for a political purpose is the generally understood definition of terrorism.

George Washington and his followers did not deliberately target and kill women and children. You can call this an insurgency, if you like. Not all insurgents are terrorists.

Next point?
(Jason, 17 April 2010 11:10

That is definitely not true. You can not compare the crimes of some thieves masked as UCK fighters with Serbia's sponsored state terror that happened in 1999.
After terrible crimes happened in 1999 against albanians what would you think the people will dance and hug together?
As for the next point, that same question should be asked to you, because you keep bringing old rubish trying to demonize the 90% of population.
Of course, you are entitled to your opinion man, but would it seem stupid to you trying to ignore biblic columns of people expelled to Albania and Macedonia in 1999.
How would you react if you were the one who experienced that?
This is so cheap attempt man and honest people would laugh to you.
2 millions seperatists? So be it.

Jason

pre 14 godina

I have to say this is ironic because our great country, the USA, was founded from separatists and nationalists. If it weren't for them we'd be still bowing to the British Queen. So having said that just keep in mind that other people's separatist are heroes to the other group. Doesn't mean they're bad people; they only become bad if you choose to be on the other side of the fence. With the attitude you have you would have viewed our founding fathers as separatists and nationalists. Do you see them that way? Do you think they were on the wrong side of history? They too were fighting a stronger country just like K-Albanians. Do you regard them as bad people for doing that? If you can't see that then you might as well hate George Washington for the separatist and nationalist you think he really was.
(johny, 16 April 2010 20:50)

You seem to have a hard time with the difference between separatists and terrorists. The KLA were separatist terrorists because they killed civilians, deliberately. The use of violence or fear of violence against non-military targets for a political purpose is the generally understood definition of terrorism.

George Washington and his followers did not deliberately target and kill women and children. You can call this an insurgency, if you like. Not all insurgents are terrorists.

Next point?

Top

pre 14 godina

Johnny, the concept of free speach seems to be unknown to you.

Jason only expressed his personal opinion, based on the experiences he made during his stay in Kosovo. It's not an offical opinion of EULEX, NATO, UNMIK or whomever... Silly!

Jason

pre 14 godina

having an opinion is certainly your right. actively prostelyzing against the people paying your salary is not. take care before you cross any lines.
(Johnny, 16 April 2010 17:31)

Unfortunately for you, the US is something called a democracy... like it or not buddy, I am very entitled to my opinion and I will continue to work here as long as I wish. Every single IPO here has an opinion one way or another - just because you don't like mine does mean I should be quiet, nor will I sir. If the US wanted to seek out every employee who does not agree with many aspects of what occurs here, they would not have many employees left.

I repeat again, that as police we enforce criminal laws. Full stop. I do not have to like the politics here or those of foreign policy of my own regarding Kosovo.

Basically I am saying to you:
Deal with it.

Have a lovely weekend, I know I will in the good part of Kosovo... north of the Ibar:)

johny

pre 14 godina

Just wanted to say that johny and Johnny are not the same person.

Also after having read the following from Jason:

" I am just anti Kosovo-Albanian separatist/nationalist.
(Jason, 16 April 2010 07:33)"

I have to say this is ironic because our great country, the USA, was founded from separatists and nationalists. If it weren't for them we'd be still bowing to the British Queen. So having said that just keep in mind that other people's separatist are heroes to the other group. Doesn't mean they're bad people; they only become bad if you choose to be on the other side of the fence. With the attitude you have you would have viewed our founding fathers as separatists and nationalists. Do you see them that way? Do you think they were on the wrong side of history? They too were fighting a stronger country just like K-Albanians. Do you regard them as bad people for doing that? If you can't see that then you might as well hate George Washington for the separatist and nationalist you think he really was.

Now to answer the other international dude. What you state is simply a falsity. There's no precedent whatsoever. Kosova is not the first and will certainly not be the last country to be independent. The political map of the world is constantly changing constantly fluid and guess what; the world hasn't ended because new countries were created or some countries ceased from existing. Independence is not achieved from courts and precedents but from recognition by individual states. That is the case with the vast majority of the countries in the world today. If the other countries want to recognize you they will. If they don't want to they won't and there's no court that can change that. Hence these precedent talk is simply a falsity preached by the disciples of doom. If that was the case Finland would be the perfect precedent for Kosova since it declared its independence while it was an autonomous region of Russia. I don't see you complain about the dangerous precedent that Finland set or for that matter you seem to not have been even aware that there are alreday cases out there that are the same as Kosova and which seem to not have set a precedent for Kosova. Can you please next time be a little more honest and limit the scaremongering tactics.

Johnny

pre 14 godina

again my comments do not get through the censors. jason you know you are wrong. both EULEX and US government would be unhappy with your postings and you know it which is why you are anonymous. be careful you don't cross a line and have them actively decide to find you out and send you home.

lili

pre 14 godina

the brit,
we do know,because we have experienced it ,what brit are able to do...Just go and read lord bethell book!
But we did not wait for you to take arms and fight for our freedom!And will do so each time it is necessary.Be sure of that,Centuries have past and serbian have not been able to destroy albanian spirit,so don'worry for us,and try to be happy!

Johnny

pre 14 godina

Jason, you are very much mistaken if you think that the US governmen pays your salary for any other purpose than to further Us interests via involvement in EULEX. i am sure you are also very aware that you are violating EULEX and US rules by the posts you make here. i'm sure that is why you continue to speak but never give enough information for either the EULEX or US to exactly identify who you are. having an opinion is certainly your right. actively prostelyzing against the people paying your salary is not. take care before you cross any lines.

Jason

pre 14 godina

it seems that b92 will not post my previous comment. i do not know why, but i was questioning Jason's credentials. how can he take money from US government to represent their interests yet continually argue against their stated position. not a question of legality, but of ethics and honor. how can he take money from someone he so strongly is against?
(Johnny, 16 April 2010 15:46

You might want to consider that EULEX is supposed to be status neutral. So far it has been anything but - meaning it has been heavily favoring the Albanian camp. I am merely helping to balance the scales a bit and offer an alternative American opinion.

As far as the job itself goes, the opinions of police here on the status of Kosovo is IRRELEVANT since we are not implementing anything to do with the government, only arresting criminals or training police to arrest criminals. Both have which have been immense failures due to the politics and criminals running this place.

This is a simple concept, no? I would have thought you could have figured that one out on your own....

Honorably Yours,

Jason/Kosovska Mitrovica

Johnny

pre 14 godina

it seems that b92 will not post my previous comment. i do not know why, but i was questioning Jason's credentials. how can he take money from US government to represent their interests yet continually argue against their stated position. not a question of legality, but of ethics and honor. how can he take money from someone he so strongly is against?

Top

pre 14 godina

"Let me say something, Albin Kurti is not standing in trial in regards to the 2 Kosovars killed in '07 demonstrations, he is standing trial for defacing and public destruction of EULEX vehicles."

Exactly that. For some posters here people acting like that seem to be their heroes - those deeds are not a "political statement", but nothing else but pure vandalism.

The Brit

pre 14 godina

baker: I'm 100% with this Jason on this one. I'm not anti-Albanian at all and actually rather like Tirana and its people. However, I also have lengthy experience in Kosovo and, like the majority of foreigners who have given service there, have developed a healthy contempt for the Kos/Alb nationalists, their gangster politicians and corrupt institutions. Whereas ultra-nationalist idiots can be found across all of ex-Yugoslavia, in Kosovo theirs is the only voice to be heard.

I went from an initial position of sympathy for Kosovo to the point where I now believe that it CANNOT under any circumstances be permitted to become a sovereign state because of th appalling precedoent that would create. You'll find that, ironically, the people in the West who know most about you, because we've worked with you, are also those most implacably opposed to your independence, whether British like me, American like Jason, German, Scandinavian, French... You have far fewer friends than you think and the number is reducing all the time.

Jason

pre 14 godina

I've noticed that all of your comments are characterized by a strong anti-Albanian sentiment, which pretty much makes your comments (like many others' here) extremely biased. Care to elaborate why as an American you are motivated to be positioned against anything Albanian?
(baker, 15 April 2010 23:00)

Simply from years of experience here. I had no opinion one way or the other before I came but working here on and off for the better part of a decade I started to take a real interest in why things are the way they are. Personal experience and a multitude of personal research helped me to come to the conclusions I have. I would not say I am anti-Albanian since I have no issue with people in Albania... I am just anti Kosovo-Albanian separatist/nationalist.

Ron

pre 14 godina

The police must arrest this guy. If not NATO, EU and UN must get him.

And dear Kurti: please respect international law. You want a referendum on independence? Fine. Ask the rest of Serbia. Maybe they will agree. Maybe not. Hey, Kurds don't get a referendum. Tibetans don't get a referendum.

International law is of much more importance then Kosovo!

And please accept that at this moment Kosovo is a Serbian province ruled by UN!

baker

pre 14 godina

Jason,

I've noticed that all of your comments are characterized by a strong anti-Albanian sentiment, which pretty much makes your comments (like many others' here) extremely biased. Care to elaborate why as an American you are motivated to be positioned against anything Albanian?

RKS

pre 14 godina

Kosovar mentality, "let's jail the Romanians that killed 2 protesters...not Kurti." Let me say something, Albin Kurti is not standing in trial in regards to the 2 Kosovars killed in '07 demonstrations, he is standing trial for defacing and public destruction of EULEX vehicles.

Jason

pre 14 godina

Pejoni, there is no use highlighting any more of your inconsistencies... I have repeatedly illustrated where you are wrong yet you go off on some tangent or spin it to mean something else.

You come out to Camp Alpha Bravo in Pristina sometime and I will be happy to school you on what is what, since you seem to be living somewhere other than the Kosovo I am living in.

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

Did you say "looking" for him? You see, to say that would imply his whereabouts are not known. On the contrary, dear Pejoni, he has been in public every day and is usually found at the office near my contractor's office in Pejton.

Once again, you missed the whole point here - the government of "Kosova" and EULEX have no real power to do much of anything, and this place remains a failing state. In a normal, real state, Kurti would have been arrested as I described.

Next point?
(Jason, 15 April 2010 16:11)

You dont get it do you, my God I cant get it through my head you actually work there, well so you say! First of all you simply repeated what I stated, they know where he is, yet they didnt brought him to the court. Secondly, the Government, PDK and LDK, doesnt matter who's in charge cant stand him, he is a threat to their chairs. Its not about who has powers, its the power who's in stake. Unlike them, west doesnt have anything to blackmail him, now does this suit the current internationals in Kosovo? Are you getting a picture of the overall situation or do you want me to go into details? What goes for this issue, if there is anyone who should stand in trial are those criminal Romanian police who killed two unarmed protestors by using outdated rubber bullets.

Jason

pre 14 godina

This clown is showing how toothless the "Kosova" CJ system (and us in EULEX) really are. Were this anywhere else, a bench warrant would have been issued and he snatched up the very first morning he did not show up in court.

"Now Albin, we really really really mean it this time... show up or... or... we will ask even more forcefully next time!"

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.
(Jason, 15 April 2010 13:03)

Jason
This shows nothing that you said in your comment. Albin Kurti is political activist. Whether he is right or wrong not to show up in the court I would not get in there. However the fact that police did not find him in his house does not mean that he is in hiding or he escaped. He openly said he is not recognizing EULEX and therefore will not submit to the court initiated from EULEX. He only did not happen to be in the house or office during that time.
As for this case nothing is wrong with Kosoco Judiciary system. He was not home this time, he will be next time.
Your exageration of things to using word "pathetic" is unreasonable.
(Simpatiku, 15 April 2010, 16:22)

Simpatiku,

I understand where you are coming from. Pathetic may not be a nice way of putting it but I really do not know how else to describe it. Kurti has been making a mockery of the CJ system here as this mess has dragged on and on and on. Kurti has openly stated that he is not hiding and that he is carrying out his normal activities and is often at the office. Were he hiding and they could not find him - then I would be unreasonable in saying things are so bad. As it stands, he is not hiding, hence I find this unreasonable... and I blame EULEX just as much, if not more than the Kosovo authorites.

foobar

pre 14 godina

Jason,

I agree with you - the legal system in Kosov{a|o} is really a sham. They definitely should bring the axe down more often, even when the charges against the man are pathetic (and this is coming from a person who doesn’t have the least bit of love for him or his idol/mentor, Adem Demaci). [/sarcasm]

As for the "place" getting worse and being pathetic; here is a revelation – wait for it ….you can leave! Really, if you dislike/hate it there that much, can't stand the fact that over 90% of the population would rather not live under the flag of your favorite country in the world (Serbia) - you can just leave! You are sounding like a temp who is bitter with their job. I’d bet that your signing up was voluntary – no one had a gun to your head and made you go there (if I am wrong in this account, then I am sorry – it must really be tough for you!).

To me at least, it just seems like you may have a conflict of interest in performing your job. I wouldn’t care whether you like or dislike the place/population/whatever, however, what I would care is having a trigger happy cowboy with a raging prejudice against anything that doesn’t suit your seemingly “kocobo je srbija” complex. I really hope to never deal with your lot when I visit the pathetic and stagnant (or even backward) Kosov{a|o} (or anywhere else in the world for that matter).

Now back to our regularly scheduled forum of chest beatings of the nationalistic cyber-patriots.

JohnBoy

pre 14 godina

This guy is showing the world how corrupt kosovo is. Keep it up. I expect to see him and the other k-albo "leaders" standing trial in Belgrade one day.

Jason

pre 14 godina

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.
(Jason, 15 April 2010 13:03)

Ever crossed your mind, perhaps KP dont want him arrested but need to make it look as they are "looking" for him to satisfy the incompetent "internationals".
(Pejoni, 15 April 2010, 15:23)

Did you say "looking" for him? You see, to say that would imply his whereabouts are not known. On the contrary, dear Pejoni, he has been in public every day and is usually found at the office near my contractor's office in Pejton.

Once again, you missed the whole point here - the government of "Kosova" and EULEX have no real power to do much of anything, and this place remains a failing state. In a normal, real state, Kurti would have been arrested as I described.

Next point?

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

This clown is showing how toothless the "Kosova" CJ system (and us in EULEX) really are. Were this anywhere else, a bench warrant would have been issued and he snatched up the very first morning he did not show up in court.

"Now Albin, we really really really mean it this time... show up or... or... we will ask even more forcefully next time!"

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.
(Jason, 15 April 2010 13:03)

Jason
This shows nothing that you said in your comment. Albin Kurti is political activist. Whether he is right or wrong not to show up in the court I would not get in there. However the fact that police did not find him in his house does not mean that he is in hiding or he escaped. He openly said he is not recognizing EULEX and therefore will not submit to the court initiated from EULEX. He only did not happen to be in the house or office during that time.
As for this case nothing is wrong with Kosoco Judiciary system. He was not home this time, he will be next time.
Your exageration of things to using word "pathetic" is unreasonable.

Top

pre 14 godina

"Ever crossed your mind, perhaps KP dont want him arrested but need to make it look as they are "looking" for him to satisfy the incompetent "internationals"."

That's possible, especially if you have the competence and professionalism of the KPS in mind, where even money and drugs are stolen from it's headquarter.

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.
(Jason, 15 April 2010 13:03)

Ever crossed your mind, perhaps KP dont want him arrested but need to make it look as they are "looking" for him to satisfy the incompetent "internationals".

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

Well done Kurti! More and more people are gathering behind you and is now considered a threat to both the International organisations acting as emperors and our own corrupt Government. You are by far the only real opposition whom the west cant control nor give orders to satisfy 5% minority in the dispense of the majority. At first I doubted your agenda but as time has moved, you have showen you simply cant be bought nor defeated. If you ever feel the need to creat a political party, which I strongly support, you'll be the first whom I will give my vote to. Well done once again and God bless you!

Srboslav

pre 14 godina

All this shows how the justice system works in "kosova"..
No thanks, I understand that the north doesn't want anything to do with this corrupt system while we have a functioning legal system there.

raso

pre 14 godina

to less to late ...

why is he the only one that will be arrested ...

there´s plenty more self-proclaimed sultans and prime-ministers that don´t accept the unmik ....

Jason

pre 14 godina

This clown is showing how toothless the "Kosova" CJ system (and us in EULEX) really are. Were this anywhere else, a bench warrant would have been issued and he snatched up the very first morning he did not show up in court.

"Now Albin, we really really really mean it this time... show up or... or... we will ask even more forcefully next time!"

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.

Jason

pre 14 godina

This clown is showing how toothless the "Kosova" CJ system (and us in EULEX) really are. Were this anywhere else, a bench warrant would have been issued and he snatched up the very first morning he did not show up in court.

"Now Albin, we really really really mean it this time... show up or... or... we will ask even more forcefully next time!"

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.

Jason

pre 14 godina

This clown is showing how toothless the "Kosova" CJ system (and us in EULEX) really are. Were this anywhere else, a bench warrant would have been issued and he snatched up the very first morning he did not show up in court.

"Now Albin, we really really really mean it this time... show up or... or... we will ask even more forcefully next time!"

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.
(Jason, 15 April 2010 13:03)

Jason
This shows nothing that you said in your comment. Albin Kurti is political activist. Whether he is right or wrong not to show up in the court I would not get in there. However the fact that police did not find him in his house does not mean that he is in hiding or he escaped. He openly said he is not recognizing EULEX and therefore will not submit to the court initiated from EULEX. He only did not happen to be in the house or office during that time.
As for this case nothing is wrong with Kosoco Judiciary system. He was not home this time, he will be next time.
Your exageration of things to using word "pathetic" is unreasonable.
(Simpatiku, 15 April 2010, 16:22)

Simpatiku,

I understand where you are coming from. Pathetic may not be a nice way of putting it but I really do not know how else to describe it. Kurti has been making a mockery of the CJ system here as this mess has dragged on and on and on. Kurti has openly stated that he is not hiding and that he is carrying out his normal activities and is often at the office. Were he hiding and they could not find him - then I would be unreasonable in saying things are so bad. As it stands, he is not hiding, hence I find this unreasonable... and I blame EULEX just as much, if not more than the Kosovo authorites.

JohnBoy

pre 14 godina

This guy is showing the world how corrupt kosovo is. Keep it up. I expect to see him and the other k-albo "leaders" standing trial in Belgrade one day.

Jason

pre 14 godina

I've noticed that all of your comments are characterized by a strong anti-Albanian sentiment, which pretty much makes your comments (like many others' here) extremely biased. Care to elaborate why as an American you are motivated to be positioned against anything Albanian?
(baker, 15 April 2010 23:00)

Simply from years of experience here. I had no opinion one way or the other before I came but working here on and off for the better part of a decade I started to take a real interest in why things are the way they are. Personal experience and a multitude of personal research helped me to come to the conclusions I have. I would not say I am anti-Albanian since I have no issue with people in Albania... I am just anti Kosovo-Albanian separatist/nationalist.

Jason

pre 14 godina

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.
(Jason, 15 April 2010 13:03)

Ever crossed your mind, perhaps KP dont want him arrested but need to make it look as they are "looking" for him to satisfy the incompetent "internationals".
(Pejoni, 15 April 2010, 15:23)

Did you say "looking" for him? You see, to say that would imply his whereabouts are not known. On the contrary, dear Pejoni, he has been in public every day and is usually found at the office near my contractor's office in Pejton.

Once again, you missed the whole point here - the government of "Kosova" and EULEX have no real power to do much of anything, and this place remains a failing state. In a normal, real state, Kurti would have been arrested as I described.

Next point?

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

Well done Kurti! More and more people are gathering behind you and is now considered a threat to both the International organisations acting as emperors and our own corrupt Government. You are by far the only real opposition whom the west cant control nor give orders to satisfy 5% minority in the dispense of the majority. At first I doubted your agenda but as time has moved, you have showen you simply cant be bought nor defeated. If you ever feel the need to creat a political party, which I strongly support, you'll be the first whom I will give my vote to. Well done once again and God bless you!

Jason

pre 14 godina

Pejoni, there is no use highlighting any more of your inconsistencies... I have repeatedly illustrated where you are wrong yet you go off on some tangent or spin it to mean something else.

You come out to Camp Alpha Bravo in Pristina sometime and I will be happy to school you on what is what, since you seem to be living somewhere other than the Kosovo I am living in.

The Brit

pre 14 godina

baker: I'm 100% with this Jason on this one. I'm not anti-Albanian at all and actually rather like Tirana and its people. However, I also have lengthy experience in Kosovo and, like the majority of foreigners who have given service there, have developed a healthy contempt for the Kos/Alb nationalists, their gangster politicians and corrupt institutions. Whereas ultra-nationalist idiots can be found across all of ex-Yugoslavia, in Kosovo theirs is the only voice to be heard.

I went from an initial position of sympathy for Kosovo to the point where I now believe that it CANNOT under any circumstances be permitted to become a sovereign state because of th appalling precedoent that would create. You'll find that, ironically, the people in the West who know most about you, because we've worked with you, are also those most implacably opposed to your independence, whether British like me, American like Jason, German, Scandinavian, French... You have far fewer friends than you think and the number is reducing all the time.

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.
(Jason, 15 April 2010 13:03)

Ever crossed your mind, perhaps KP dont want him arrested but need to make it look as they are "looking" for him to satisfy the incompetent "internationals".

Srboslav

pre 14 godina

All this shows how the justice system works in "kosova"..
No thanks, I understand that the north doesn't want anything to do with this corrupt system while we have a functioning legal system there.

raso

pre 14 godina

to less to late ...

why is he the only one that will be arrested ...

there´s plenty more self-proclaimed sultans and prime-ministers that don´t accept the unmik ....

Top

pre 14 godina

"Ever crossed your mind, perhaps KP dont want him arrested but need to make it look as they are "looking" for him to satisfy the incompetent "internationals"."

That's possible, especially if you have the competence and professionalism of the KPS in mind, where even money and drugs are stolen from it's headquarter.

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

This clown is showing how toothless the "Kosova" CJ system (and us in EULEX) really are. Were this anywhere else, a bench warrant would have been issued and he snatched up the very first morning he did not show up in court.

"Now Albin, we really really really mean it this time... show up or... or... we will ask even more forcefully next time!"

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.
(Jason, 15 April 2010 13:03)

Jason
This shows nothing that you said in your comment. Albin Kurti is political activist. Whether he is right or wrong not to show up in the court I would not get in there. However the fact that police did not find him in his house does not mean that he is in hiding or he escaped. He openly said he is not recognizing EULEX and therefore will not submit to the court initiated from EULEX. He only did not happen to be in the house or office during that time.
As for this case nothing is wrong with Kosoco Judiciary system. He was not home this time, he will be next time.
Your exageration of things to using word "pathetic" is unreasonable.

RKS

pre 14 godina

Kosovar mentality, "let's jail the Romanians that killed 2 protesters...not Kurti." Let me say something, Albin Kurti is not standing in trial in regards to the 2 Kosovars killed in '07 demonstrations, he is standing trial for defacing and public destruction of EULEX vehicles.

foobar

pre 14 godina

Jason,

I agree with you - the legal system in Kosov{a|o} is really a sham. They definitely should bring the axe down more often, even when the charges against the man are pathetic (and this is coming from a person who doesn’t have the least bit of love for him or his idol/mentor, Adem Demaci). [/sarcasm]

As for the "place" getting worse and being pathetic; here is a revelation – wait for it ….you can leave! Really, if you dislike/hate it there that much, can't stand the fact that over 90% of the population would rather not live under the flag of your favorite country in the world (Serbia) - you can just leave! You are sounding like a temp who is bitter with their job. I’d bet that your signing up was voluntary – no one had a gun to your head and made you go there (if I am wrong in this account, then I am sorry – it must really be tough for you!).

To me at least, it just seems like you may have a conflict of interest in performing your job. I wouldn’t care whether you like or dislike the place/population/whatever, however, what I would care is having a trigger happy cowboy with a raging prejudice against anything that doesn’t suit your seemingly “kocobo je srbija” complex. I really hope to never deal with your lot when I visit the pathetic and stagnant (or even backward) Kosov{a|o} (or anywhere else in the world for that matter).

Now back to our regularly scheduled forum of chest beatings of the nationalistic cyber-patriots.

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

Did you say "looking" for him? You see, to say that would imply his whereabouts are not known. On the contrary, dear Pejoni, he has been in public every day and is usually found at the office near my contractor's office in Pejton.

Once again, you missed the whole point here - the government of "Kosova" and EULEX have no real power to do much of anything, and this place remains a failing state. In a normal, real state, Kurti would have been arrested as I described.

Next point?
(Jason, 15 April 2010 16:11)

You dont get it do you, my God I cant get it through my head you actually work there, well so you say! First of all you simply repeated what I stated, they know where he is, yet they didnt brought him to the court. Secondly, the Government, PDK and LDK, doesnt matter who's in charge cant stand him, he is a threat to their chairs. Its not about who has powers, its the power who's in stake. Unlike them, west doesnt have anything to blackmail him, now does this suit the current internationals in Kosovo? Are you getting a picture of the overall situation or do you want me to go into details? What goes for this issue, if there is anyone who should stand in trial are those criminal Romanian police who killed two unarmed protestors by using outdated rubber bullets.

Ron

pre 14 godina

The police must arrest this guy. If not NATO, EU and UN must get him.

And dear Kurti: please respect international law. You want a referendum on independence? Fine. Ask the rest of Serbia. Maybe they will agree. Maybe not. Hey, Kurds don't get a referendum. Tibetans don't get a referendum.

International law is of much more importance then Kosovo!

And please accept that at this moment Kosovo is a Serbian province ruled by UN!

Jason

pre 14 godina

it seems that b92 will not post my previous comment. i do not know why, but i was questioning Jason's credentials. how can he take money from US government to represent their interests yet continually argue against their stated position. not a question of legality, but of ethics and honor. how can he take money from someone he so strongly is against?
(Johnny, 16 April 2010 15:46

You might want to consider that EULEX is supposed to be status neutral. So far it has been anything but - meaning it has been heavily favoring the Albanian camp. I am merely helping to balance the scales a bit and offer an alternative American opinion.

As far as the job itself goes, the opinions of police here on the status of Kosovo is IRRELEVANT since we are not implementing anything to do with the government, only arresting criminals or training police to arrest criminals. Both have which have been immense failures due to the politics and criminals running this place.

This is a simple concept, no? I would have thought you could have figured that one out on your own....

Honorably Yours,

Jason/Kosovska Mitrovica

Top

pre 14 godina

"Let me say something, Albin Kurti is not standing in trial in regards to the 2 Kosovars killed in '07 demonstrations, he is standing trial for defacing and public destruction of EULEX vehicles."

Exactly that. For some posters here people acting like that seem to be their heroes - those deeds are not a "political statement", but nothing else but pure vandalism.

Jason

pre 14 godina

I have to say this is ironic because our great country, the USA, was founded from separatists and nationalists. If it weren't for them we'd be still bowing to the British Queen. So having said that just keep in mind that other people's separatist are heroes to the other group. Doesn't mean they're bad people; they only become bad if you choose to be on the other side of the fence. With the attitude you have you would have viewed our founding fathers as separatists and nationalists. Do you see them that way? Do you think they were on the wrong side of history? They too were fighting a stronger country just like K-Albanians. Do you regard them as bad people for doing that? If you can't see that then you might as well hate George Washington for the separatist and nationalist you think he really was.
(johny, 16 April 2010 20:50)

You seem to have a hard time with the difference between separatists and terrorists. The KLA were separatist terrorists because they killed civilians, deliberately. The use of violence or fear of violence against non-military targets for a political purpose is the generally understood definition of terrorism.

George Washington and his followers did not deliberately target and kill women and children. You can call this an insurgency, if you like. Not all insurgents are terrorists.

Next point?

Jason

pre 14 godina

That is definitely not true. You can not compare the crimes of some thieves masked as UCK fighters with Serbia's sponsored state terror that happened in 1999.
(Simpatiku, 17 April 2010 15:30)

Who mentioned Serbia?

I was discussing the United States' Revolutionary War and how it does not compare one iota with the KLA's campaign of terrorism.

baker

pre 14 godina

Jason,

I've noticed that all of your comments are characterized by a strong anti-Albanian sentiment, which pretty much makes your comments (like many others' here) extremely biased. Care to elaborate why as an American you are motivated to be positioned against anything Albanian?

Jason

pre 14 godina

having an opinion is certainly your right. actively prostelyzing against the people paying your salary is not. take care before you cross any lines.
(Johnny, 16 April 2010 17:31)

Unfortunately for you, the US is something called a democracy... like it or not buddy, I am very entitled to my opinion and I will continue to work here as long as I wish. Every single IPO here has an opinion one way or another - just because you don't like mine does mean I should be quiet, nor will I sir. If the US wanted to seek out every employee who does not agree with many aspects of what occurs here, they would not have many employees left.

I repeat again, that as police we enforce criminal laws. Full stop. I do not have to like the politics here or those of foreign policy of my own regarding Kosovo.

Basically I am saying to you:
Deal with it.

Have a lovely weekend, I know I will in the good part of Kosovo... north of the Ibar:)

Top

pre 14 godina

Johnny, the concept of free speach seems to be unknown to you.

Jason only expressed his personal opinion, based on the experiences he made during his stay in Kosovo. It's not an offical opinion of EULEX, NATO, UNMIK or whomever... Silly!

Johnny

pre 14 godina

Jason, you are very much mistaken if you think that the US governmen pays your salary for any other purpose than to further Us interests via involvement in EULEX. i am sure you are also very aware that you are violating EULEX and US rules by the posts you make here. i'm sure that is why you continue to speak but never give enough information for either the EULEX or US to exactly identify who you are. having an opinion is certainly your right. actively prostelyzing against the people paying your salary is not. take care before you cross any lines.

lili

pre 14 godina

the brit,
we do know,because we have experienced it ,what brit are able to do...Just go and read lord bethell book!
But we did not wait for you to take arms and fight for our freedom!And will do so each time it is necessary.Be sure of that,Centuries have past and serbian have not been able to destroy albanian spirit,so don'worry for us,and try to be happy!

Johnny

pre 14 godina

it seems that b92 will not post my previous comment. i do not know why, but i was questioning Jason's credentials. how can he take money from US government to represent their interests yet continually argue against their stated position. not a question of legality, but of ethics and honor. how can he take money from someone he so strongly is against?

Johnny

pre 14 godina

again my comments do not get through the censors. jason you know you are wrong. both EULEX and US government would be unhappy with your postings and you know it which is why you are anonymous. be careful you don't cross a line and have them actively decide to find you out and send you home.

johny

pre 14 godina

Just wanted to say that johny and Johnny are not the same person.

Also after having read the following from Jason:

" I am just anti Kosovo-Albanian separatist/nationalist.
(Jason, 16 April 2010 07:33)"

I have to say this is ironic because our great country, the USA, was founded from separatists and nationalists. If it weren't for them we'd be still bowing to the British Queen. So having said that just keep in mind that other people's separatist are heroes to the other group. Doesn't mean they're bad people; they only become bad if you choose to be on the other side of the fence. With the attitude you have you would have viewed our founding fathers as separatists and nationalists. Do you see them that way? Do you think they were on the wrong side of history? They too were fighting a stronger country just like K-Albanians. Do you regard them as bad people for doing that? If you can't see that then you might as well hate George Washington for the separatist and nationalist you think he really was.

Now to answer the other international dude. What you state is simply a falsity. There's no precedent whatsoever. Kosova is not the first and will certainly not be the last country to be independent. The political map of the world is constantly changing constantly fluid and guess what; the world hasn't ended because new countries were created or some countries ceased from existing. Independence is not achieved from courts and precedents but from recognition by individual states. That is the case with the vast majority of the countries in the world today. If the other countries want to recognize you they will. If they don't want to they won't and there's no court that can change that. Hence these precedent talk is simply a falsity preached by the disciples of doom. If that was the case Finland would be the perfect precedent for Kosova since it declared its independence while it was an autonomous region of Russia. I don't see you complain about the dangerous precedent that Finland set or for that matter you seem to not have been even aware that there are alreday cases out there that are the same as Kosova and which seem to not have set a precedent for Kosova. Can you please next time be a little more honest and limit the scaremongering tactics.

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

You seem to have a hard time with the difference between separatists and terrorists. The KLA were separatist terrorists because they killed civilians, deliberately. The use of violence or fear of violence against non-military targets for a political purpose is the generally understood definition of terrorism.

George Washington and his followers did not deliberately target and kill women and children. You can call this an insurgency, if you like. Not all insurgents are terrorists.

Next point?
(Jason, 17 April 2010 11:10

That is definitely not true. You can not compare the crimes of some thieves masked as UCK fighters with Serbia's sponsored state terror that happened in 1999.
After terrible crimes happened in 1999 against albanians what would you think the people will dance and hug together?
As for the next point, that same question should be asked to you, because you keep bringing old rubish trying to demonize the 90% of population.
Of course, you are entitled to your opinion man, but would it seem stupid to you trying to ignore biblic columns of people expelled to Albania and Macedonia in 1999.
How would you react if you were the one who experienced that?
This is so cheap attempt man and honest people would laugh to you.
2 millions seperatists? So be it.

johny

pre 14 godina

Yea next point. Can you address Simpatiku? It seems like you are ok with state sponsored terrorism. Seeing that Hague has convicted some high Serb officials on those accusations it seems like you have made the choice, fully-aware, to throw all your support for the state sponsored terrorism of the Serbian state.
Also very lame excuse since there has been no proof of a KLA policy targeting civilians. As a matter of fact there is proof of KLA policy of not engaging civilians; but there is ample proof that the Serbian state targeted civilians, you know with 1 million of them targeted for ethnic cleansing and thousands of them murdered. Selective memory, Jason.

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

I was discussing the United States' Revolutionary War and how it does not compare one iota with the KLA's campaign of terrorism.
(Jason, 17 April 2010 19:13)

As I said Jason this is your opinion. However me and Johnny could not care less about what and how you qualify things after everything that happened in Kosovo during 90's is well documented, filmed and is there for everyone to see. Furthermore I experienced that in my skin.
Unfortunately this only tells me about your intelectual level and about how poor is the mission if it has such limited minds like you involved in it.
The Kurti's case is just another example of the results that one mission can bring with people like you. You are in the mission for rule of law. According to this mission Kurti is not your priority.
We had a case few weeks ago where unknown persons desecrated serbian tombs the doing that I condemn with ths strongest terms. Also we had a case in north where two albanian citizens of northern part of Mitrovica were beaten by serbian extremists. You do not go to englighten who were those offenders but instead you elect Kurti as your priority and what is worse you call all albanians pathetic just because you are unable to arrest the person whose office might be 100 meters away from your workplace. So sad.

Jason

pre 14 godina

This clown is showing how toothless the "Kosova" CJ system (and us in EULEX) really are. Were this anywhere else, a bench warrant would have been issued and he snatched up the very first morning he did not show up in court.

"Now Albin, we really really really mean it this time... show up or... or... we will ask even more forcefully next time!"

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

Well done Kurti! More and more people are gathering behind you and is now considered a threat to both the International organisations acting as emperors and our own corrupt Government. You are by far the only real opposition whom the west cant control nor give orders to satisfy 5% minority in the dispense of the majority. At first I doubted your agenda but as time has moved, you have showen you simply cant be bought nor defeated. If you ever feel the need to creat a political party, which I strongly support, you'll be the first whom I will give my vote to. Well done once again and God bless you!

JohnBoy

pre 14 godina

This guy is showing the world how corrupt kosovo is. Keep it up. I expect to see him and the other k-albo "leaders" standing trial in Belgrade one day.

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

Did you say "looking" for him? You see, to say that would imply his whereabouts are not known. On the contrary, dear Pejoni, he has been in public every day and is usually found at the office near my contractor's office in Pejton.

Once again, you missed the whole point here - the government of "Kosova" and EULEX have no real power to do much of anything, and this place remains a failing state. In a normal, real state, Kurti would have been arrested as I described.

Next point?
(Jason, 15 April 2010 16:11)

You dont get it do you, my God I cant get it through my head you actually work there, well so you say! First of all you simply repeated what I stated, they know where he is, yet they didnt brought him to the court. Secondly, the Government, PDK and LDK, doesnt matter who's in charge cant stand him, he is a threat to their chairs. Its not about who has powers, its the power who's in stake. Unlike them, west doesnt have anything to blackmail him, now does this suit the current internationals in Kosovo? Are you getting a picture of the overall situation or do you want me to go into details? What goes for this issue, if there is anyone who should stand in trial are those criminal Romanian police who killed two unarmed protestors by using outdated rubber bullets.

foobar

pre 14 godina

Jason,

I agree with you - the legal system in Kosov{a|o} is really a sham. They definitely should bring the axe down more often, even when the charges against the man are pathetic (and this is coming from a person who doesn’t have the least bit of love for him or his idol/mentor, Adem Demaci). [/sarcasm]

As for the "place" getting worse and being pathetic; here is a revelation – wait for it ….you can leave! Really, if you dislike/hate it there that much, can't stand the fact that over 90% of the population would rather not live under the flag of your favorite country in the world (Serbia) - you can just leave! You are sounding like a temp who is bitter with their job. I’d bet that your signing up was voluntary – no one had a gun to your head and made you go there (if I am wrong in this account, then I am sorry – it must really be tough for you!).

To me at least, it just seems like you may have a conflict of interest in performing your job. I wouldn’t care whether you like or dislike the place/population/whatever, however, what I would care is having a trigger happy cowboy with a raging prejudice against anything that doesn’t suit your seemingly “kocobo je srbija” complex. I really hope to never deal with your lot when I visit the pathetic and stagnant (or even backward) Kosov{a|o} (or anywhere else in the world for that matter).

Now back to our regularly scheduled forum of chest beatings of the nationalistic cyber-patriots.

baker

pre 14 godina

Jason,

I've noticed that all of your comments are characterized by a strong anti-Albanian sentiment, which pretty much makes your comments (like many others' here) extremely biased. Care to elaborate why as an American you are motivated to be positioned against anything Albanian?

Srboslav

pre 14 godina

All this shows how the justice system works in "kosova"..
No thanks, I understand that the north doesn't want anything to do with this corrupt system while we have a functioning legal system there.

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

This clown is showing how toothless the "Kosova" CJ system (and us in EULEX) really are. Were this anywhere else, a bench warrant would have been issued and he snatched up the very first morning he did not show up in court.

"Now Albin, we really really really mean it this time... show up or... or... we will ask even more forcefully next time!"

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.
(Jason, 15 April 2010 13:03)

Jason
This shows nothing that you said in your comment. Albin Kurti is political activist. Whether he is right or wrong not to show up in the court I would not get in there. However the fact that police did not find him in his house does not mean that he is in hiding or he escaped. He openly said he is not recognizing EULEX and therefore will not submit to the court initiated from EULEX. He only did not happen to be in the house or office during that time.
As for this case nothing is wrong with Kosoco Judiciary system. He was not home this time, he will be next time.
Your exageration of things to using word "pathetic" is unreasonable.

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.
(Jason, 15 April 2010 13:03)

Ever crossed your mind, perhaps KP dont want him arrested but need to make it look as they are "looking" for him to satisfy the incompetent "internationals".

Johnny

pre 14 godina

it seems that b92 will not post my previous comment. i do not know why, but i was questioning Jason's credentials. how can he take money from US government to represent their interests yet continually argue against their stated position. not a question of legality, but of ethics and honor. how can he take money from someone he so strongly is against?

Jason

pre 14 godina

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.
(Jason, 15 April 2010 13:03)

Ever crossed your mind, perhaps KP dont want him arrested but need to make it look as they are "looking" for him to satisfy the incompetent "internationals".
(Pejoni, 15 April 2010, 15:23)

Did you say "looking" for him? You see, to say that would imply his whereabouts are not known. On the contrary, dear Pejoni, he has been in public every day and is usually found at the office near my contractor's office in Pejton.

Once again, you missed the whole point here - the government of "Kosova" and EULEX have no real power to do much of anything, and this place remains a failing state. In a normal, real state, Kurti would have been arrested as I described.

Next point?

raso

pre 14 godina

to less to late ...

why is he the only one that will be arrested ...

there´s plenty more self-proclaimed sultans and prime-ministers that don´t accept the unmik ....

Top

pre 14 godina

"Ever crossed your mind, perhaps KP dont want him arrested but need to make it look as they are "looking" for him to satisfy the incompetent "internationals"."

That's possible, especially if you have the competence and professionalism of the KPS in mind, where even money and drugs are stolen from it's headquarter.

Jason

pre 14 godina

This clown is showing how toothless the "Kosova" CJ system (and us in EULEX) really are. Were this anywhere else, a bench warrant would have been issued and he snatched up the very first morning he did not show up in court.

"Now Albin, we really really really mean it this time... show up or... or... we will ask even more forcefully next time!"

This place gets worse and worse rather than moving forward. Pathetic.
(Jason, 15 April 2010 13:03)

Jason
This shows nothing that you said in your comment. Albin Kurti is political activist. Whether he is right or wrong not to show up in the court I would not get in there. However the fact that police did not find him in his house does not mean that he is in hiding or he escaped. He openly said he is not recognizing EULEX and therefore will not submit to the court initiated from EULEX. He only did not happen to be in the house or office during that time.
As for this case nothing is wrong with Kosoco Judiciary system. He was not home this time, he will be next time.
Your exageration of things to using word "pathetic" is unreasonable.
(Simpatiku, 15 April 2010, 16:22)

Simpatiku,

I understand where you are coming from. Pathetic may not be a nice way of putting it but I really do not know how else to describe it. Kurti has been making a mockery of the CJ system here as this mess has dragged on and on and on. Kurti has openly stated that he is not hiding and that he is carrying out his normal activities and is often at the office. Were he hiding and they could not find him - then I would be unreasonable in saying things are so bad. As it stands, he is not hiding, hence I find this unreasonable... and I blame EULEX just as much, if not more than the Kosovo authorites.

Jason

pre 14 godina

Pejoni, there is no use highlighting any more of your inconsistencies... I have repeatedly illustrated where you are wrong yet you go off on some tangent or spin it to mean something else.

You come out to Camp Alpha Bravo in Pristina sometime and I will be happy to school you on what is what, since you seem to be living somewhere other than the Kosovo I am living in.

lili

pre 14 godina

the brit,
we do know,because we have experienced it ,what brit are able to do...Just go and read lord bethell book!
But we did not wait for you to take arms and fight for our freedom!And will do so each time it is necessary.Be sure of that,Centuries have past and serbian have not been able to destroy albanian spirit,so don'worry for us,and try to be happy!

Johnny

pre 14 godina

again my comments do not get through the censors. jason you know you are wrong. both EULEX and US government would be unhappy with your postings and you know it which is why you are anonymous. be careful you don't cross a line and have them actively decide to find you out and send you home.

RKS

pre 14 godina

Kosovar mentality, "let's jail the Romanians that killed 2 protesters...not Kurti." Let me say something, Albin Kurti is not standing in trial in regards to the 2 Kosovars killed in '07 demonstrations, he is standing trial for defacing and public destruction of EULEX vehicles.

Johnny

pre 14 godina

Jason, you are very much mistaken if you think that the US governmen pays your salary for any other purpose than to further Us interests via involvement in EULEX. i am sure you are also very aware that you are violating EULEX and US rules by the posts you make here. i'm sure that is why you continue to speak but never give enough information for either the EULEX or US to exactly identify who you are. having an opinion is certainly your right. actively prostelyzing against the people paying your salary is not. take care before you cross any lines.

Jason

pre 14 godina

I have to say this is ironic because our great country, the USA, was founded from separatists and nationalists. If it weren't for them we'd be still bowing to the British Queen. So having said that just keep in mind that other people's separatist are heroes to the other group. Doesn't mean they're bad people; they only become bad if you choose to be on the other side of the fence. With the attitude you have you would have viewed our founding fathers as separatists and nationalists. Do you see them that way? Do you think they were on the wrong side of history? They too were fighting a stronger country just like K-Albanians. Do you regard them as bad people for doing that? If you can't see that then you might as well hate George Washington for the separatist and nationalist you think he really was.
(johny, 16 April 2010 20:50)

You seem to have a hard time with the difference between separatists and terrorists. The KLA were separatist terrorists because they killed civilians, deliberately. The use of violence or fear of violence against non-military targets for a political purpose is the generally understood definition of terrorism.

George Washington and his followers did not deliberately target and kill women and children. You can call this an insurgency, if you like. Not all insurgents are terrorists.

Next point?

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

I was discussing the United States' Revolutionary War and how it does not compare one iota with the KLA's campaign of terrorism.
(Jason, 17 April 2010 19:13)

As I said Jason this is your opinion. However me and Johnny could not care less about what and how you qualify things after everything that happened in Kosovo during 90's is well documented, filmed and is there for everyone to see. Furthermore I experienced that in my skin.
Unfortunately this only tells me about your intelectual level and about how poor is the mission if it has such limited minds like you involved in it.
The Kurti's case is just another example of the results that one mission can bring with people like you. You are in the mission for rule of law. According to this mission Kurti is not your priority.
We had a case few weeks ago where unknown persons desecrated serbian tombs the doing that I condemn with ths strongest terms. Also we had a case in north where two albanian citizens of northern part of Mitrovica were beaten by serbian extremists. You do not go to englighten who were those offenders but instead you elect Kurti as your priority and what is worse you call all albanians pathetic just because you are unable to arrest the person whose office might be 100 meters away from your workplace. So sad.

Ron

pre 14 godina

The police must arrest this guy. If not NATO, EU and UN must get him.

And dear Kurti: please respect international law. You want a referendum on independence? Fine. Ask the rest of Serbia. Maybe they will agree. Maybe not. Hey, Kurds don't get a referendum. Tibetans don't get a referendum.

International law is of much more importance then Kosovo!

And please accept that at this moment Kosovo is a Serbian province ruled by UN!

The Brit

pre 14 godina

baker: I'm 100% with this Jason on this one. I'm not anti-Albanian at all and actually rather like Tirana and its people. However, I also have lengthy experience in Kosovo and, like the majority of foreigners who have given service there, have developed a healthy contempt for the Kos/Alb nationalists, their gangster politicians and corrupt institutions. Whereas ultra-nationalist idiots can be found across all of ex-Yugoslavia, in Kosovo theirs is the only voice to be heard.

I went from an initial position of sympathy for Kosovo to the point where I now believe that it CANNOT under any circumstances be permitted to become a sovereign state because of th appalling precedoent that would create. You'll find that, ironically, the people in the West who know most about you, because we've worked with you, are also those most implacably opposed to your independence, whether British like me, American like Jason, German, Scandinavian, French... You have far fewer friends than you think and the number is reducing all the time.

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

You seem to have a hard time with the difference between separatists and terrorists. The KLA were separatist terrorists because they killed civilians, deliberately. The use of violence or fear of violence against non-military targets for a political purpose is the generally understood definition of terrorism.

George Washington and his followers did not deliberately target and kill women and children. You can call this an insurgency, if you like. Not all insurgents are terrorists.

Next point?
(Jason, 17 April 2010 11:10

That is definitely not true. You can not compare the crimes of some thieves masked as UCK fighters with Serbia's sponsored state terror that happened in 1999.
After terrible crimes happened in 1999 against albanians what would you think the people will dance and hug together?
As for the next point, that same question should be asked to you, because you keep bringing old rubish trying to demonize the 90% of population.
Of course, you are entitled to your opinion man, but would it seem stupid to you trying to ignore biblic columns of people expelled to Albania and Macedonia in 1999.
How would you react if you were the one who experienced that?
This is so cheap attempt man and honest people would laugh to you.
2 millions seperatists? So be it.

Jason

pre 14 godina

I've noticed that all of your comments are characterized by a strong anti-Albanian sentiment, which pretty much makes your comments (like many others' here) extremely biased. Care to elaborate why as an American you are motivated to be positioned against anything Albanian?
(baker, 15 April 2010 23:00)

Simply from years of experience here. I had no opinion one way or the other before I came but working here on and off for the better part of a decade I started to take a real interest in why things are the way they are. Personal experience and a multitude of personal research helped me to come to the conclusions I have. I would not say I am anti-Albanian since I have no issue with people in Albania... I am just anti Kosovo-Albanian separatist/nationalist.

Jason

pre 14 godina

it seems that b92 will not post my previous comment. i do not know why, but i was questioning Jason's credentials. how can he take money from US government to represent their interests yet continually argue against their stated position. not a question of legality, but of ethics and honor. how can he take money from someone he so strongly is against?
(Johnny, 16 April 2010 15:46

You might want to consider that EULEX is supposed to be status neutral. So far it has been anything but - meaning it has been heavily favoring the Albanian camp. I am merely helping to balance the scales a bit and offer an alternative American opinion.

As far as the job itself goes, the opinions of police here on the status of Kosovo is IRRELEVANT since we are not implementing anything to do with the government, only arresting criminals or training police to arrest criminals. Both have which have been immense failures due to the politics and criminals running this place.

This is a simple concept, no? I would have thought you could have figured that one out on your own....

Honorably Yours,

Jason/Kosovska Mitrovica

Jason

pre 14 godina

having an opinion is certainly your right. actively prostelyzing against the people paying your salary is not. take care before you cross any lines.
(Johnny, 16 April 2010 17:31)

Unfortunately for you, the US is something called a democracy... like it or not buddy, I am very entitled to my opinion and I will continue to work here as long as I wish. Every single IPO here has an opinion one way or another - just because you don't like mine does mean I should be quiet, nor will I sir. If the US wanted to seek out every employee who does not agree with many aspects of what occurs here, they would not have many employees left.

I repeat again, that as police we enforce criminal laws. Full stop. I do not have to like the politics here or those of foreign policy of my own regarding Kosovo.

Basically I am saying to you:
Deal with it.

Have a lovely weekend, I know I will in the good part of Kosovo... north of the Ibar:)

johny

pre 14 godina

Just wanted to say that johny and Johnny are not the same person.

Also after having read the following from Jason:

" I am just anti Kosovo-Albanian separatist/nationalist.
(Jason, 16 April 2010 07:33)"

I have to say this is ironic because our great country, the USA, was founded from separatists and nationalists. If it weren't for them we'd be still bowing to the British Queen. So having said that just keep in mind that other people's separatist are heroes to the other group. Doesn't mean they're bad people; they only become bad if you choose to be on the other side of the fence. With the attitude you have you would have viewed our founding fathers as separatists and nationalists. Do you see them that way? Do you think they were on the wrong side of history? They too were fighting a stronger country just like K-Albanians. Do you regard them as bad people for doing that? If you can't see that then you might as well hate George Washington for the separatist and nationalist you think he really was.

Now to answer the other international dude. What you state is simply a falsity. There's no precedent whatsoever. Kosova is not the first and will certainly not be the last country to be independent. The political map of the world is constantly changing constantly fluid and guess what; the world hasn't ended because new countries were created or some countries ceased from existing. Independence is not achieved from courts and precedents but from recognition by individual states. That is the case with the vast majority of the countries in the world today. If the other countries want to recognize you they will. If they don't want to they won't and there's no court that can change that. Hence these precedent talk is simply a falsity preached by the disciples of doom. If that was the case Finland would be the perfect precedent for Kosova since it declared its independence while it was an autonomous region of Russia. I don't see you complain about the dangerous precedent that Finland set or for that matter you seem to not have been even aware that there are alreday cases out there that are the same as Kosova and which seem to not have set a precedent for Kosova. Can you please next time be a little more honest and limit the scaremongering tactics.

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pre 14 godina

"Let me say something, Albin Kurti is not standing in trial in regards to the 2 Kosovars killed in '07 demonstrations, he is standing trial for defacing and public destruction of EULEX vehicles."

Exactly that. For some posters here people acting like that seem to be their heroes - those deeds are not a "political statement", but nothing else but pure vandalism.

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pre 14 godina

Johnny, the concept of free speach seems to be unknown to you.

Jason only expressed his personal opinion, based on the experiences he made during his stay in Kosovo. It's not an offical opinion of EULEX, NATO, UNMIK or whomever... Silly!

johny

pre 14 godina

Yea next point. Can you address Simpatiku? It seems like you are ok with state sponsored terrorism. Seeing that Hague has convicted some high Serb officials on those accusations it seems like you have made the choice, fully-aware, to throw all your support for the state sponsored terrorism of the Serbian state.
Also very lame excuse since there has been no proof of a KLA policy targeting civilians. As a matter of fact there is proof of KLA policy of not engaging civilians; but there is ample proof that the Serbian state targeted civilians, you know with 1 million of them targeted for ethnic cleansing and thousands of them murdered. Selective memory, Jason.

Jason

pre 14 godina

That is definitely not true. You can not compare the crimes of some thieves masked as UCK fighters with Serbia's sponsored state terror that happened in 1999.
(Simpatiku, 17 April 2010 15:30)

Who mentioned Serbia?

I was discussing the United States' Revolutionary War and how it does not compare one iota with the KLA's campaign of terrorism.