"Independence facing critical challenge"

Does not sound good for "Kosova" so that is good news for everyone else.

As for northern Kosovo, that is not even remotely an issue as they are worried about everywhere south of the Ibar which was supposed to be running smoothly. Do I smell despair?

Still waiting for Pejoni's KSF base he promised in April too... :)

But... I thought the Americans said independence was a done deal. Sorry albanians! Not even Swazilands recognition yesterday will change the facts on the ground. Your adventure is soon over. Either negotiate or accept the partition of Kosovo. The tables are turning. Good job Serbia and the Serbian people in fighting for our land and thanks to all those countries who supportet our territorial integrity and international law.

"the survival of the Kosovo independence project is facing a critical challenge"
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Independence never happened and never will thanks to Russia, China, Spain, Greece, Cyprus, Slovakia and Romania while we all witnessed a stillbirth. It's a done deal! Independence only exists in the imagination of those mostly living within the confines of prison camp "Kosova". Further progress can only be made through the negotiating table.

The Kosovo independence project will soon be dead for good after the ICJ said it is illegal under international law. And he knows that most of the 66 countries will revoke their recognition of the UDI.

"The survival of the independence project is now facing a critical crisis,"

Did he say 'project'? Was that a slip of the tongue or is this "independence" just a project for the EU to see if it works? Oh well if it fails back to Belgrade for you my K-Alabs.

Jim: "The big question is why is this being brought up now? Is it because there is a feeling that it will go Kosovo's way and want to stress the importance of the Court's judgement? Or because the ICO and others are having to prepare the ground for the KAs to accept new talks if the Court rules in Serbia's favour?"

That's exactly what I was thinking. The timing is very telling.

The fact that he was "speaking in his role of ICO chief" which is openly pro-independence makes me think that he is just lobbying for continued support of the whole 'Kosova' project, especially in light of the recent large reduction in Irish troops.

I think that there is a real problem in that the ICO et al want to continue pushing the whole independence agenda but the Pristina govt. are making it impossible for them to do so.

They seem to refuse to tackle corruption or bend on any issue. Basically, I don't think that the UN, EU or even ICO find it possible to deal with them, let alone dictate to them, which is basically what they want.

Yet again, the US supports the wrong side for the wrong reasons and cause major problems in the world.

Hardly surprising!! When you sell dreams this is the result.
It was obviously easier to steal somebody's else land and declare an illegal UDI than acting as responsible "leaders" and finally do the right things instead of blaming the entire world for their misery!
As I keep on saying very poor mentality that even the UDI supporters are today not ready to accept any longer.

Jason, does it really matter if the base opens this April or the next year, you are still in the territory of Kosovo.
(Pejoni, 15 April 2010, 12:46)

Oh indeed it does sir! We all remember your GUARANTEE of this base opening in April - and how you so proudly said the north will be under Pristina's control.

How convenient you change your tune now that you are proven WRONG. Norht of the Ibar is still very much Serbia:)

A realistic statement.

Especialy naming the reasons:

"He said that the Kosovo Albanian government in Priština "must turn words into actions when it comes to fighting corruption on the highest level", and added this concerns not only the issue of "improving the image of Kosovo outside of its territory", but also, its residents."

This would help much, much more than announcing "we are independent" every second day and "lobbying" other countries to recognize Kosovo.

But I strongly doubt if those goals and plans can ever be achieved with the current politicians/clans in the Kosovo government.

don´t worry indiependent-of-hearts, feith-no-more is one more time wrong again ...

of course something that never ever happened cannot be "challenged" ...

So much for all the KA comments here that the ICJ doesn't matter as it is only providing an advisory opinion. This has always been absolute nonsense. You cannot have the 15 most eminent international jurists deliver their opinion on a matter of international law and then just ignore it. It is, after all, the judicial arm of the UN. And even if some states choose to ignore the ruling, the UN, and associated bodies, will have to accept it and respond accordingly. Everyone knows that it will have a profound effect.

The big question is why is this being brought up now? Is it because there is a feeling that it will go Kosovo's way and want to stress the importance of the Court's judgement? Or because the ICO and others are having to prepare the ground for the KAs to accept new talks if the Court rules in Serbia's favour?

Why Im asking is becuase you keep mention north being Serbia, now I dont know your real name, but if I knew you propably wouldnt be working for them anymore, if you now by any chance do. I dont think I need to tell you what their basic rules are when being employed. It starts with N and ends with L or Y, depends how you use it.
(Pejoni, 15 April 2010, 14:57)

Frustrated?

You sound just like your buddy Kosovo-USA who gets so upset with me at times that he screams empty threats about having me sent home because he has nothing else to offer by way of discussion.

I see you have fallen in that same group:)

p.s. as for getting your information from the KA dailies - that is your biggest problem right there!

The "Independence Project"
Sounds like some new cinema coming out... or a secret military operation hidden inside a mountain.

I view Serbia as a huge city, with Kosovo being its depressed slum area full of crime, prostitution, drug lords, and are so bad that even the city's Police and ambulances will not go there.

The streets are full of trash, and it is not safe after dark,
the city pumps money and assistance into this pit knowing that it goes only to the drug lords and mafioso street gangs, so, they quit.
Sounds to me like Feith just quit.

What happened to "irreversible"? Appears that peter faithless is looking for a new job. The best he can hope for is a few positive statements so that they don't lose all of the "recognitions". The irony here is that the k-albos did it to themselves. They should have spent the last ten years kissing up to the Serbs who live in kosovo and building more Orthodox churches. Instead, they arrogantly brutalized the Serbs and stole most of the aid money while depending on american imperialistic muscle to keep them there. Muscle that is going bankrupt every day.

"Did he say 'project'? Was that a slip of the tongue or is this "independence" just a project for the EU to see if it works?"

Of course it is a project! That's nothing new. It is usually referred to as "Ahtissaari plan" - supervised independence.

And yes, projects do fail sometimes, especially if they are not well planned and being imposed.

Top, the ruling is important, no matter what people in Kosovo might think. It is only because Kosovo is not a part of the international community that people there can be so dismissive of the UN and the ICJ. Looked at from outside, it is much more significant than you realise. The fact that Feith has chosen to highlight it seems to be important, but it is just difficult to tell in what way.

Secondly, there is a good reason why Serbia has said that it will not recognise Kosovo regardless of the ruling. That is because Belgrade has calculated that if it said that it will respect the ruling while others suggest that they won't then it would be politically easier for the ICJ to rule against Serbia, knowing that Belgrade will accept their decision. Any country would do the same under the circumstances. In reality, however, the ruling will have major consuquences for all parties, whether or not they are willing to admit it openly yet.

Kate, I agree with you. Day by day it is becoming obvious just what a mess Kosovo is in. As the 'negotiations' over status showed, there is absolutely no political culture of compromise amongst the KA leadership. It is apparent that nobody can control the situation there. The interesting thing is that Serbian officials seem to have realised this. Increasingly, we are hearing more about partition from Belgrade. I think it has finally dawned on Belgrade that apart from the North, and trying to ensure the best possible conditions for Serbs in enclaves, the rest of Kosovo is simply not worth trying to keep. Let it be someone else's problem. The problem is that someone else cannot run the place either. Really, the more I think about it, the better off Serbia is without Kosovo.

Those are some pretty damning statements coming from the supposed Dahi of Kosovo. The same man who thinks he can buy off the north and other consolidated Serb enclaves with trinkets of EUism, now says Kosovo faces a "critical challenge" - and a day after they bought Swaziland's recognition too!

Personally I'm kind of happy he's finally realizing "many EU ministers are upset in a way, because they did not see the developments that they wished to see" because it shows sobreity, though late, can certainly come. And what was once dismissed as ancillary to Kosovo's development, the ICJ ruling is now seen as a make or break case for the wayward province.

What strategies does Mr. Feith have as backup plans? Renegotiate with Belgrade or simply hightail it back to Holland?

I found the following wording on another website (irishtimes.com)

"The viability of the independence project is now coming to a critical test, and [Kosovo] hopes that the ruling will at least be balanced, and have so many positive elements in it, that [it] can obtain further recognition and better access to international organisations, which can help overall socio-economic development," he (Feith) said.

Some other words, but not so different in the meaning.

And what was once dismissed as ancillary to Kosovo's development, the ICJ ruling is now seen as a make or break case for the wayward province.
(Mike, 15 April 2010 14:50)

What is interesting: neither Serbian nor Albanian side does see the ICJ ruling as a "make or brake case". It is ICO and the ones who are interested in "independence project".

I find the wording "independence project" extremely insulting. It shows precisely what is the goal. No one challenges the de-facto independence. The problem is the "project" the way it is.

How many people understand the difference between "independence" and "independence project"?

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What strategies does Mr. Feith have as backup plans? Renegotiate with Belgrade or simply hightail it back to Holland?
(Mike, 15 April 2010 14:50)

ICO has no mandate. Feith's position is a big controversy because of interest conflict. He got extension till mid-year only. What I read between lines: "oh, my - I am done". Not Kosovo is important but "the project".

For those interested, here's the last ruling that the ICJ brought down for an 'advisory opinion': http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/131/1677.pdf

Content is irrelevant to discussion but structure isn't - gives you an idea of what to expect.

PRN:
Might be an idea to take a step back, have a break & regroup.

Independence will never be undone. Remember those who live in Kosovo wants independence and no one in this world can do anything to change that. So no matter what happens Kosovo will NEVER be Serbian.

so much for the done deal, mr. dell. i think washington is calling.

"Independence facing critical challenge"

Dear B92,

This is wrong interpretation. Independence either exists or doesn't. It can t be changed because it is illegal under international law, and Mr Feith knows this pretty well.

Independent JUSTICE SYSTEM facing critical challenge.

THIS IS WHAT HE ACTUALLY SAID/meant.

ONLY muppets will understand that if independence is so called "facing critical challenge" that that state will turn into dependence.

Mr Feith recognises independence and there is NO indication whatsoever that he or any EU country has any doubts. Moreover very soon another 2 EU will recognise Kosovo.

Wait and see.


In case of Kosovo we all know that it exsist

This article is no source and is full of errors. The headline speaks of "challange", the text on the other hand of "crisis". I think that somebody was to over-excited in writing this text. Can we have the full text of this report of Feith?

Anyway, Independence can only be destroyed when you destroy the people of Kosovo. Albanians will never ever cooperate with Belgrade, whatsoever. No ruling, no government and threat will change that.

One statement twisted by B92 on favour of Serbia and Serbs see themself already as winners, and you people wonder how you managed to lose all the wars in the Balkans. Priceless!

Jason, does it really matter if the base opens this April or the next year, you are still in the territory of Kosovo.

Oh indeed it does sir! We all remember your GUARANTEE of this base opening in April - and how you so proudly said the north will be under Pristina's control.

How convenient you change your tune now that you are proven WRONG. Norht of the Ibar is still very much Serbia:)
(Jason, 15 April 2010 13:06)

KSF is still a emergancy force, not a military one. Yes I stated they would open their base in north, which is naturally since north is part of Kosovo. Why I specifically mentioned April was information from Albanian general news dailies, sometime they are right sometime politicians change their decisions to ease tensions, you of all people should now that. Hence my question what exactly is your task in that organisation, EULEX. Why Im asking is becuase you keep mention north being Serbia, now I dont know your real name, but if I knew you propably wouldnt be working for them anymore, if you now by any chance do. I dont think I need to tell you what their basic rules are when being employed. It starts with N and ends with L or Y, depends how you use it.

The streets are full of trash, and it is not safe after dark,
the city pumps money and assistance into this pit knowing that it goes only to the drug lords and mafioso street gangs, so, they quit.
Sounds to me like Feith just quit.
(smederevo, 15 April 2010 16:35)

1) Nit true: that's totally incorrect picture. When did you visit Kosovo last time?
2) True - Feith is probably finished.

No, no, no,
this thing is crystal clear! Every decission about Kosovo was based on facts on the ground. There's nothing about intellectual arguing here, only physical facts count. Serbia has no access in to the main parts of Kosovo, Albanians have no access to the north.
The Rest is not silence, but bla bla.

Tanjug is the messenger of this "news" and they are not known for being the most objective. They are state-owned. Feith should be more careful about what he says about independence, Kosovo MFA should summon Feith.

Why is the ICJ ruling so important? Both sides already announced that they won't accept the ICJ ruling (of course only if it's against their position). And it's crystal clear to me that the ICJ decision will be found somewhere in the middle.

"Remember those who live in Kosovo wants independence and no one in this world can do anything to change that."

Well, to be exact, only a major part of population of Kosovo wants it - surely not the ones living in the north. I think the best way to get out of this messed up "independence project" would be a partition of Kosovo, with only the south being "independend" (whatever it means, probably nothing else than ths status quo from today)

For those that think kosovo is an independant state, i would like to smoke whatever your having. Th ICJ will rule against the authors of the UDI because resolution 1244 verifies serbias sovereignty as well as the helsinki final act which reaffirms all countries sovereignty before kosovo albanians declared UDI. So icj will rule in serbian favor recognitions will cease and even countries like Poland, Czech Republic, Montenegro, Costa Rica, Italy, and portugal have all stated that they will respect the icj decision meaning repealing recognitions. Bye Bye "kosova" now theres going to be 9 countries in the Eu against you and then when Montenegro, Bosnia, and serbia join theres going to be 12! hahaha give up now. The best is though that when serbia sends its information to the eu its including kosovo as its province and all of its population into its own.

Independence will never be undone. Remember those who live in Kosovo wants independence and no one in this world can do anything to change that. So no matter what happens Kosovo will NEVER be Serbian.
(A, 15 April 2010 10:32)

"The mind is everything; What you think you become" -Buddha

Independence facing critical challenge:
1.Stay independent, or
2. Unification with Albania.
I vote for the second solution.

I´m a bit surprised about the reactions here, ...the supporters of serbian territorial integrity and international law are behaving as if that remark by Mr Feith would change anything.

of course it doesn´t.

KiM was and still is nothing more than Serbia´s southern province temporary ruled by foreign occupiers.

that socalled "independence project", even if there was no international law, failed definitely when the UNSC or say Russia and China prevented further misunderstandings in regard to whether KiM is serbian territory or not.

so, don´t take this as a victory, dear Serbia-supporters, Feith only says what has been clear before.

and to our dear k-albanian friends: you don´t have to start whining, you will still have your autonomy in the future, so there is no need to act so artificially belligerent here, you can´t change the inevitable.

Serbia will prevail.

Is Thaci really a mafiosi thug as described here? If he is, why do the west deal with him?

I cannot believe that the west would put a mafia at the head of its creation.

If this is the case, I suppose it must be embarrassing for the western politicians to have to deal with him - particularly after all the effort to get rid of Milosevic.

Also, it might explain significance of the Fieth comments.

Please put me right on this.
(Bob, 17 April 2010 15:08)

Bob, sadly Thachi IS a mafia thug and it really is no surprise that the US and its allies want him in power. We have a long history of helping despots to rise to and remain in power... from our dictators we installed in Central America to various strongmen in the Middle East, this is nothing new. Saddam Hussein, the Shah if Iran, and Manuel Noriega, and Aribe are all examples. Yes, some fell from favor and were removed by us but the fact remains that when they served a purpose, as does Thachi right now, then they are not a problem.

The 'critical challenge' is implementing Pristina's plan to integrate the N.Mit. into the political/gov. structures created by Pristina. Critical refers to the number of Serbs abandoning their lives in Kosova for Serbia.

So no matter what happens Kosovo will NEVER be Serbian.
(A)
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My friend, Kosovo was, still is and always will be Serbian. Open your eyes, your allies are falling back, and now what is there to be done ? Good day :)

For me it is obvious. Most probably Mr Feith have heard something from the ICJ about the upcoming verdict that is very much against the UDI. Also, several high level politicians have lately stated that Kosovo leaders MUST fight corruption otherwise..... I am pretty sure that the Kosovo experiment is about to come to a dead end very soon. For most of the educated people its quite obvious - its not possible to suddenly take a bit of a sovereign state and make it independent. I think and I am sure it will be very BIG changes for Kosovo pretty soon.

I hear the talk of Kosovo uniting with Albania from the Kosovo Albanians but I don't hear it from the Albanians living in Albania. Why is that? Maybe they don't share your vision?

"I hear the talk of Kosovo uniting with Albania from the Kosovo Albanians but I don't hear it from the Albanians living in Albania. Why is that?" (American Eagle)

-- Because Albanians from Albania have more important things to worry about than foolish fantasies of greatness. The only people who waste inordinate amounts of time talking about this alleged Albanian "brotherhood" that would fight for Kosovo are diaspora Albanians in the West who can talk big and risk little. This site is flooded with them.

What ever the ICJ rule the situation will not change. There is only one way Kosovo will be truly independent is if Serbia recognises it as an independent state. The west is bending over backwards to get Serbia on side and we will see more of this when Serbia has its next general election. Kosovo is stuck in Limbo be it a state or a southern province of Serbia or worse still a situation like Israel and Palestine.

Greater Albania not going to happen 1. Albania wants to be in the EU so it will not rock the boat 2. the EU will not back such a move as this would provoke Serbia.

Another reason contributing to Kosovo no moving forward is nobod outside of the Balkans really cares about Kosovo, there is very little or no media coverage, ask most everyday people about Kosovo i bet most couldn,t tell you where it was

so much for the done deal, mr. dell. i think washington is calling.
(stari, 15 April 2010 19:30)

That was really one day apart. Looks like a public relations disaster for me. Totally confused fat cats. Good cop, bad cop... black cat, white cat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WbX9Q5SjZg

all signs point to partition !!

serbia will keep kosovo and the albanian section they can call dardinia or whatever ...one side getting all and rightful side getting nothing WILL NOT WORK

EU has overestimated the albanians and underestimated the serbians..all coming clearer into focus now ...

For those that think kosovo is an independant state, i would like to smoke whatever your having. Th ICJ will rule against the authors of the UDI because resolution 1244 verifies serbias sovereignty as well as the helsinki final act which reaffirms all countries sovereignty before kosovo albanians declared UDI. So icj will rule in serbian favor recognitions will cease and even countries like Poland, Czech Republic, Montenegro, Costa Rica, Italy, and portugal have all stated that they will respect the icj decision meaning repealing recognitions. Bye Bye "kosova" now theres going to be 9 countries in the Eu against you and then when Montenegro, Bosnia, and serbia join theres going to be 12! hahaha give up now. The best is though that when serbia sends its information to the eu its including kosovo as its province and all of its population into its own.
(anonymous, 15 April 2010 23:15)
Why downgrade from your current stock, it seems to be top of the line.

Independence facing critical challenge:
1.Stay independent, or
2. Unification with Albania.
I vote for the second solution.
(Qiqavica)
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So this is all about an invasion? How can Albania even think of financially supporting this?

Our people are suffering and all you think about is your egotistical view on "greater-albania"... your a joker mate.

I am sorry to tell you but when your international friends are done whatever it is they're doing, Serb forces will be heading back your way, and Kosovo will be under Serbian control again. Good day :)

"Independence facing critical challenge:
1.Stay independent, or
2. Unification with Albania.
I vote for the second solution." (Qiqavica)

Albanians in Albania don't want Kosovo.

For those interested, here's the last ruling that the ICJ brought down for an 'advisory opinion': [link]

Content is irrelevant to discussion but structure isn't - gives you an idea of what to expect.

PRN:
Might be an idea to take a step back, have a break & regroup.
(peter, sydney, 15 April 2010 17:42)

It may be that the news travel slower in the Land Down Under but parts of wall have been built and it continous so even as we speak. Not that I care for either side in that region but a wall around northern Kosovo border doesn't sound too bad. One can imagine no criminals and their business influx in Kosovo from Saricland.

"Is Thaci really a mafiosi thug as described here? If he is, why do the west deal with him?
I cannot believe that the west would put a mafia at the head of its creation."

Envolvement in criminal activities of Kosovo politicians has never been deeper investigated or even prosecuted. But feel free to search the internet about the Kosovo report from German intelligence service (BND) dated from February 2005. It will enlighten you.

But no, these politicians were not "put on head by the west", but voted by the Kosovo Albanians who consider them as 'heroes'. Because the west feared more violent protesting of their followers, the UNMIK police never tried to prosecute them, there are even reports that one of these 'politicians' was 'rescued' by US forces from being arrested by UNMIK police.

It may be that the news travel slower in the Land Down Under but parts of wall have been built and it continous so even as we speak. Not that I care for either side in that region but a wall around northern Kosovo border doesn't sound too bad. One can imagine no criminals and their business influx in Kosovo from Saricland.
(Jager Mirub, 16 April 2010 19:34)

There is absolutely no wall.

Jager Mirub:
> It may be that the news travel slower in the Land Down Under ..

Well actually, it probably does - at least in comparison with most western countries. current broadband line speed is ~1.7Mbps ;)

> ...but parts of wall have been built and it continous so even as we speak.

A lot of it by palestinians believe it or not.

> Not that I care for either side in that region ..

Feel sorry for the palestinians personally, but that isn't why I provided the link. Provided it as an example of what a decision by the ICJ looks like to those interested in the subject.

> ... but a wall around northern Kosovo border doesn't sound too bad.

If a wall is to be built, place to build it is along the Ibar.

> One can imagine no criminals and their business influx in Kosovo from Saricland.

Rats will always find a way but your hypothesis is flawed anyway - as concentration of rats in Thaciland is higher. And unlike in Serbia proper, king rat in Kosovo runs the place.

If K-albanians could get 'cleanskins' into power, then would not be the case. Sadly, didn't happen, nor is it likely to any time in the near future.

> respecting ICJ advise it does not mean reversing recognition

While 'Anonumous' is a tad optimistic (among other things), will undoubtably be a couple/few/some 'reversals' assuming of course that ICJ decision is favourable.

> However, risking all by puting all eggs in one basket is Serbia's prorogative and choice. If there is a minimal chance that the decision will be neutral or pro UDI Serbia would have commmitted suicide on this matter

And Serbia's other choices were exactly what? Military option, besides being wrong, is also out. Accepting the unilateral action is anathema & political poison. Leaving only action through the ICJ.

So in point of fact, Serbia isn't really risking anything as it has nothing to lose. Some may quip 'except Kosovo', but if Serbia does nothing, it is lost anyway.

> Have in mind the majority of judges preciding on ICJ come from countries that have recognized Kosovo's independence.

More accurate to say a 'bare majority' (of 8 to 7). But technically, this should have no bearing on the case itself.

Sadly, we live in an imperfect world where, amongst other things, judges can be bought &/or influenced by external influences.

Happily, the ICJ is not the ICTY. ICJ judges are far less likely to be influenced by the governments of their countries (except curiously enough for US judge who seemingly has a track record of not offending his government).

Will shortly know in any event.

"So icj will rule in serbian favor recognitions will cease and even countries like Poland, Czech Republic, Montenegro, Costa Rica, Italy, and portugal have all stated that they will respect the icj decision meaning repealing recognitions. Bye Bye "kosova" now theres going to be 9 countries in the Eu against you and then when Montenegro, Bosnia, and serbia join theres going to be 12! hahaha give up now.
(Anonumous).

Is there another, even one Serb who thinks this is what will truly happen? Besides the wrong math and bad grammar when counting the EU countries, respecting ICJ advise it does not mean reversing recognition, it merely means will read about it in morning papers and then the debates in General Assembly of UN will start to take place at the request of pro-Serb countries. However, risking all by puting all eggs in one basket is Serbia's prorogative and choice. If there is a minimal chance that the decision will be neutral or pro UDI Serbia would have commmitted suicide on this matter. Have in mind the majority of judges preciding on ICJ come from countries that have recognized Kosovo's independence.
I strongly believe that Tadic and Co love this formula > insist not to recognize, let ICJ decide, but don't sign off Kosovo. That counts as a standing the ground, get points from EU for resolving the Kosovo issue, which in turn will woo the Serb voters on their pro-EU promise by not recognizing Kosovo.
Even Serb officials said they will respect the ICJ decision which does not mean they have to recognize Kosovo, but it means it will buy time for Serbia to re-negotiate Kosovo for EU-membership without Nato membership.
As far as Bosnia joining the EU...

"KiM was and still is nothing more than Serbia´s southern province temporary ruled by foreign occupiers."

Wrong, Kosovo is under internatioal administration by the UN/UNMIK and not "occupied by foreign forces". Even Serbia is an UN member.

Is Thaci really a mafiosi thug as described here? If he is, why do the west deal with him?

I cannot believe that the west would put a mafia at the head of its creation.

If this is the case, I suppose it must be embarrassing for the western politicians to have to deal with him - particularly after all the effort to get rid of Milosevic.

Also, it might explain significance of the Fieth comments.

Please put me right on this.

trudsaam, I am not joking, but I am telling you the damn truth for what we figh as family: grandfather, father as political arrested and myself.
No need for Albania to send soldiers in Kosova: how many times do we have to tell you "that we are not Kosovars, but we are ALBANAINS since Kosova is just a region of Albania.

Independence will never be undone. Remember those who live in Kosovo wants independence and no one in this world can do anything to change that. So no matter what happens Kosovo will NEVER be Serbian.
(A, 15 April 2010 10:32)

First of all, according to law Kosovo presently is Serbian. Secondly if you ask the Serbs who are confined to the heavily guarded compounds in Kosovo I would imagine they may not entirely agree with your statements.

Really, the more I think about it, the better off Serbia is without Kosovo.
(Jim, 15 April 2010 13:01)

Jim,

Really, why don't you call it what it is: sour grapes on your part.

Of course, Belgrade would be thrilled to settle for a partition of Kosova, but it ain't gonna happen. They are are going to end up with what they have now, nothing! And, you and every other Serb know that, so stop trying to convince us that the only reason Serbia would refuse to go along with a decision from the ICJ, if it went against them, is only because "others" (I assume you meant the Albanians) would not if the court ruled against their Declaration of Independence. The Albanians never implied this nor did the many powerful Nations who recognized Kosova until Serbia reveled it would not abide by an ICJ decision if it ruled for independence.

Oh, the tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive.

Independence will never be undone. Remember those who live in Kosovo wants independence and no one in this world can do anything to change that. So no matter what happens Kosovo will NEVER be Serbian.

Tanjug is the messenger of this "news" and they are not known for being the most objective. They are state-owned. Feith should be more careful about what he says about independence, Kosovo MFA should summon Feith.

One statement twisted by B92 on favour of Serbia and Serbs see themself already as winners, and you people wonder how you managed to lose all the wars in the Balkans. Priceless!

Jason, does it really matter if the base opens this April or the next year, you are still in the territory of Kosovo.

This article is no source and is full of errors. The headline speaks of "challange", the text on the other hand of "crisis". I think that somebody was to over-excited in writing this text. Can we have the full text of this report of Feith?

Anyway, Independence can only be destroyed when you destroy the people of Kosovo. Albanians will never ever cooperate with Belgrade, whatsoever. No ruling, no government and threat will change that.

"Independence facing critical challenge"

Dear B92,

This is wrong interpretation. Independence either exists or doesn't. It can t be changed because it is illegal under international law, and Mr Feith knows this pretty well.

Independent JUSTICE SYSTEM facing critical challenge.

THIS IS WHAT HE ACTUALLY SAID/meant.

ONLY muppets will understand that if independence is so called "facing critical challenge" that that state will turn into dependence.

Mr Feith recognises independence and there is NO indication whatsoever that he or any EU country has any doubts. Moreover very soon another 2 EU will recognise Kosovo.

Wait and see.


In case of Kosovo we all know that it exsist

Oh indeed it does sir! We all remember your GUARANTEE of this base opening in April - and how you so proudly said the north will be under Pristina's control.

How convenient you change your tune now that you are proven WRONG. Norht of the Ibar is still very much Serbia:)
(Jason, 15 April 2010 13:06)

KSF is still a emergancy force, not a military one. Yes I stated they would open their base in north, which is naturally since north is part of Kosovo. Why I specifically mentioned April was information from Albanian general news dailies, sometime they are right sometime politicians change their decisions to ease tensions, you of all people should now that. Hence my question what exactly is your task in that organisation, EULEX. Why Im asking is becuase you keep mention north being Serbia, now I dont know your real name, but if I knew you propably wouldnt be working for them anymore, if you now by any chance do. I dont think I need to tell you what their basic rules are when being employed. It starts with N and ends with L or Y, depends how you use it.

The 'critical challenge' is implementing Pristina's plan to integrate the N.Mit. into the political/gov. structures created by Pristina. Critical refers to the number of Serbs abandoning their lives in Kosova for Serbia.

The streets are full of trash, and it is not safe after dark,
the city pumps money and assistance into this pit knowing that it goes only to the drug lords and mafioso street gangs, so, they quit.
Sounds to me like Feith just quit.
(smederevo, 15 April 2010 16:35)

1) Nit true: that's totally incorrect picture. When did you visit Kosovo last time?
2) True - Feith is probably finished.

"the survival of the Kosovo independence project is facing a critical challenge"
--
Independence never happened and never will thanks to Russia, China, Spain, Greece, Cyprus, Slovakia and Romania while we all witnessed a stillbirth. It's a done deal! Independence only exists in the imagination of those mostly living within the confines of prison camp "Kosova". Further progress can only be made through the negotiating table.

No, no, no,
this thing is crystal clear! Every decission about Kosovo was based on facts on the ground. There's nothing about intellectual arguing here, only physical facts count. Serbia has no access in to the main parts of Kosovo, Albanians have no access to the north.
The Rest is not silence, but bla bla.

Why is the ICJ ruling so important? Both sides already announced that they won't accept the ICJ ruling (of course only if it's against their position). And it's crystal clear to me that the ICJ decision will be found somewhere in the middle.

"Remember those who live in Kosovo wants independence and no one in this world can do anything to change that."

Well, to be exact, only a major part of population of Kosovo wants it - surely not the ones living in the north. I think the best way to get out of this messed up "independence project" would be a partition of Kosovo, with only the south being "independend" (whatever it means, probably nothing else than ths status quo from today)

But... I thought the Americans said independence was a done deal. Sorry albanians! Not even Swazilands recognition yesterday will change the facts on the ground. Your adventure is soon over. Either negotiate or accept the partition of Kosovo. The tables are turning. Good job Serbia and the Serbian people in fighting for our land and thanks to all those countries who supportet our territorial integrity and international law.

The "Independence Project"
Sounds like some new cinema coming out... or a secret military operation hidden inside a mountain.

I view Serbia as a huge city, with Kosovo being its depressed slum area full of crime, prostitution, drug lords, and are so bad that even the city's Police and ambulances will not go there.

The streets are full of trash, and it is not safe after dark,
the city pumps money and assistance into this pit knowing that it goes only to the drug lords and mafioso street gangs, so, they quit.
Sounds to me like Feith just quit.

Independence facing critical challenge:
1.Stay independent, or
2. Unification with Albania.
I vote for the second solution.

Does not sound good for "Kosova" so that is good news for everyone else.

As for northern Kosovo, that is not even remotely an issue as they are worried about everywhere south of the Ibar which was supposed to be running smoothly. Do I smell despair?

Still waiting for Pejoni's KSF base he promised in April too... :)

Jim: "The big question is why is this being brought up now? Is it because there is a feeling that it will go Kosovo's way and want to stress the importance of the Court's judgement? Or because the ICO and others are having to prepare the ground for the KAs to accept new talks if the Court rules in Serbia's favour?"

That's exactly what I was thinking. The timing is very telling.

The fact that he was "speaking in his role of ICO chief" which is openly pro-independence makes me think that he is just lobbying for continued support of the whole 'Kosova' project, especially in light of the recent large reduction in Irish troops.

I think that there is a real problem in that the ICO et al want to continue pushing the whole independence agenda but the Pristina govt. are making it impossible for them to do so.

They seem to refuse to tackle corruption or bend on any issue. Basically, I don't think that the UN, EU or even ICO find it possible to deal with them, let alone dictate to them, which is basically what they want.

Yet again, the US supports the wrong side for the wrong reasons and cause major problems in the world.

Jason, does it really matter if the base opens this April or the next year, you are still in the territory of Kosovo.
(Pejoni, 15 April 2010, 12:46)

Oh indeed it does sir! We all remember your GUARANTEE of this base opening in April - and how you so proudly said the north will be under Pristina's control.

How convenient you change your tune now that you are proven WRONG. Norht of the Ibar is still very much Serbia:)

So much for all the KA comments here that the ICJ doesn't matter as it is only providing an advisory opinion. This has always been absolute nonsense. You cannot have the 15 most eminent international jurists deliver their opinion on a matter of international law and then just ignore it. It is, after all, the judicial arm of the UN. And even if some states choose to ignore the ruling, the UN, and associated bodies, will have to accept it and respond accordingly. Everyone knows that it will have a profound effect.

The big question is why is this being brought up now? Is it because there is a feeling that it will go Kosovo's way and want to stress the importance of the Court's judgement? Or because the ICO and others are having to prepare the ground for the KAs to accept new talks if the Court rules in Serbia's favour?

"The survival of the independence project is now facing a critical crisis,"

Did he say 'project'? Was that a slip of the tongue or is this "independence" just a project for the EU to see if it works? Oh well if it fails back to Belgrade for you my K-Alabs.

The Kosovo independence project will soon be dead for good after the ICJ said it is illegal under international law. And he knows that most of the 66 countries will revoke their recognition of the UDI.

Hardly surprising!! When you sell dreams this is the result.
It was obviously easier to steal somebody's else land and declare an illegal UDI than acting as responsible "leaders" and finally do the right things instead of blaming the entire world for their misery!
As I keep on saying very poor mentality that even the UDI supporters are today not ready to accept any longer.

Top, the ruling is important, no matter what people in Kosovo might think. It is only because Kosovo is not a part of the international community that people there can be so dismissive of the UN and the ICJ. Looked at from outside, it is much more significant than you realise. The fact that Feith has chosen to highlight it seems to be important, but it is just difficult to tell in what way.

Secondly, there is a good reason why Serbia has said that it will not recognise Kosovo regardless of the ruling. That is because Belgrade has calculated that if it said that it will respect the ruling while others suggest that they won't then it would be politically easier for the ICJ to rule against Serbia, knowing that Belgrade will accept their decision. Any country would do the same under the circumstances. In reality, however, the ruling will have major consuquences for all parties, whether or not they are willing to admit it openly yet.

Kate, I agree with you. Day by day it is becoming obvious just what a mess Kosovo is in. As the 'negotiations' over status showed, there is absolutely no political culture of compromise amongst the KA leadership. It is apparent that nobody can control the situation there. The interesting thing is that Serbian officials seem to have realised this. Increasingly, we are hearing more about partition from Belgrade. I think it has finally dawned on Belgrade that apart from the North, and trying to ensure the best possible conditions for Serbs in enclaves, the rest of Kosovo is simply not worth trying to keep. Let it be someone else's problem. The problem is that someone else cannot run the place either. Really, the more I think about it, the better off Serbia is without Kosovo.

Why Im asking is becuase you keep mention north being Serbia, now I dont know your real name, but if I knew you propably wouldnt be working for them anymore, if you now by any chance do. I dont think I need to tell you what their basic rules are when being employed. It starts with N and ends with L or Y, depends how you use it.
(Pejoni, 15 April 2010, 14:57)

Frustrated?

You sound just like your buddy Kosovo-USA who gets so upset with me at times that he screams empty threats about having me sent home because he has nothing else to offer by way of discussion.

I see you have fallen in that same group:)

p.s. as for getting your information from the KA dailies - that is your biggest problem right there!

What happened to "irreversible"? Appears that peter faithless is looking for a new job. The best he can hope for is a few positive statements so that they don't lose all of the "recognitions". The irony here is that the k-albos did it to themselves. They should have spent the last ten years kissing up to the Serbs who live in kosovo and building more Orthodox churches. Instead, they arrogantly brutalized the Serbs and stole most of the aid money while depending on american imperialistic muscle to keep them there. Muscle that is going bankrupt every day.

don´t worry indiependent-of-hearts, feith-no-more is one more time wrong again ...

of course something that never ever happened cannot be "challenged" ...

"Did he say 'project'? Was that a slip of the tongue or is this "independence" just a project for the EU to see if it works?"

Of course it is a project! That's nothing new. It is usually referred to as "Ahtissaari plan" - supervised independence.

And yes, projects do fail sometimes, especially if they are not well planned and being imposed.

And what was once dismissed as ancillary to Kosovo's development, the ICJ ruling is now seen as a make or break case for the wayward province.
(Mike, 15 April 2010 14:50)

What is interesting: neither Serbian nor Albanian side does see the ICJ ruling as a "make or brake case". It is ICO and the ones who are interested in "independence project".

I find the wording "independence project" extremely insulting. It shows precisely what is the goal. No one challenges the de-facto independence. The problem is the "project" the way it is.

How many people understand the difference between "independence" and "independence project"?

---

What strategies does Mr. Feith have as backup plans? Renegotiate with Belgrade or simply hightail it back to Holland?
(Mike, 15 April 2010 14:50)

ICO has no mandate. Feith's position is a big controversy because of interest conflict. He got extension till mid-year only. What I read between lines: "oh, my - I am done". Not Kosovo is important but "the project".

so much for the done deal, mr. dell. i think washington is calling.

So no matter what happens Kosovo will NEVER be Serbian.
(A)
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My friend, Kosovo was, still is and always will be Serbian. Open your eyes, your allies are falling back, and now what is there to be done ? Good day :)

trudsaam, I am not joking, but I am telling you the damn truth for what we figh as family: grandfather, father as political arrested and myself.
No need for Albania to send soldiers in Kosova: how many times do we have to tell you "that we are not Kosovars, but we are ALBANAINS since Kosova is just a region of Albania.

A realistic statement.

Especialy naming the reasons:

"He said that the Kosovo Albanian government in Priština "must turn words into actions when it comes to fighting corruption on the highest level", and added this concerns not only the issue of "improving the image of Kosovo outside of its territory", but also, its residents."

This would help much, much more than announcing "we are independent" every second day and "lobbying" other countries to recognize Kosovo.

But I strongly doubt if those goals and plans can ever be achieved with the current politicians/clans in the Kosovo government.

For those that think kosovo is an independant state, i would like to smoke whatever your having. Th ICJ will rule against the authors of the UDI because resolution 1244 verifies serbias sovereignty as well as the helsinki final act which reaffirms all countries sovereignty before kosovo albanians declared UDI. So icj will rule in serbian favor recognitions will cease and even countries like Poland, Czech Republic, Montenegro, Costa Rica, Italy, and portugal have all stated that they will respect the icj decision meaning repealing recognitions. Bye Bye "kosova" now theres going to be 9 countries in the Eu against you and then when Montenegro, Bosnia, and serbia join theres going to be 12! hahaha give up now. The best is though that when serbia sends its information to the eu its including kosovo as its province and all of its population into its own.

all signs point to partition !!

serbia will keep kosovo and the albanian section they can call dardinia or whatever ...one side getting all and rightful side getting nothing WILL NOT WORK

EU has overestimated the albanians and underestimated the serbians..all coming clearer into focus now ...

I´m a bit surprised about the reactions here, ...the supporters of serbian territorial integrity and international law are behaving as if that remark by Mr Feith would change anything.

of course it doesn´t.

KiM was and still is nothing more than Serbia´s southern province temporary ruled by foreign occupiers.

that socalled "independence project", even if there was no international law, failed definitely when the UNSC or say Russia and China prevented further misunderstandings in regard to whether KiM is serbian territory or not.

so, don´t take this as a victory, dear Serbia-supporters, Feith only says what has been clear before.

and to our dear k-albanian friends: you don´t have to start whining, you will still have your autonomy in the future, so there is no need to act so artificially belligerent here, you can´t change the inevitable.

Serbia will prevail.

Really, the more I think about it, the better off Serbia is without Kosovo.
(Jim, 15 April 2010 13:01)

Jim,

Really, why don't you call it what it is: sour grapes on your part.

Of course, Belgrade would be thrilled to settle for a partition of Kosova, but it ain't gonna happen. They are are going to end up with what they have now, nothing! And, you and every other Serb know that, so stop trying to convince us that the only reason Serbia would refuse to go along with a decision from the ICJ, if it went against them, is only because "others" (I assume you meant the Albanians) would not if the court ruled against their Declaration of Independence. The Albanians never implied this nor did the many powerful Nations who recognized Kosova until Serbia reveled it would not abide by an ICJ decision if it ruled for independence.

Oh, the tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive.

Those are some pretty damning statements coming from the supposed Dahi of Kosovo. The same man who thinks he can buy off the north and other consolidated Serb enclaves with trinkets of EUism, now says Kosovo faces a "critical challenge" - and a day after they bought Swaziland's recognition too!

Personally I'm kind of happy he's finally realizing "many EU ministers are upset in a way, because they did not see the developments that they wished to see" because it shows sobreity, though late, can certainly come. And what was once dismissed as ancillary to Kosovo's development, the ICJ ruling is now seen as a make or break case for the wayward province.

What strategies does Mr. Feith have as backup plans? Renegotiate with Belgrade or simply hightail it back to Holland?

I found the following wording on another website (irishtimes.com)

"The viability of the independence project is now coming to a critical test, and [Kosovo] hopes that the ruling will at least be balanced, and have so many positive elements in it, that [it] can obtain further recognition and better access to international organisations, which can help overall socio-economic development," he (Feith) said.

Some other words, but not so different in the meaning.

For those interested, here's the last ruling that the ICJ brought down for an 'advisory opinion': http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/131/1677.pdf

Content is irrelevant to discussion but structure isn't - gives you an idea of what to expect.

PRN:
Might be an idea to take a step back, have a break & regroup.

Independence will never be undone. Remember those who live in Kosovo wants independence and no one in this world can do anything to change that. So no matter what happens Kosovo will NEVER be Serbian.
(A, 15 April 2010 10:32)

"The mind is everything; What you think you become" -Buddha

so much for the done deal, mr. dell. i think washington is calling.
(stari, 15 April 2010 19:30)

That was really one day apart. Looks like a public relations disaster for me. Totally confused fat cats. Good cop, bad cop... black cat, white cat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WbX9Q5SjZg

For those interested, here's the last ruling that the ICJ brought down for an 'advisory opinion': [link]

Content is irrelevant to discussion but structure isn't - gives you an idea of what to expect.

PRN:
Might be an idea to take a step back, have a break & regroup.
(peter, sydney, 15 April 2010 17:42)

It may be that the news travel slower in the Land Down Under but parts of wall have been built and it continous so even as we speak. Not that I care for either side in that region but a wall around northern Kosovo border doesn't sound too bad. One can imagine no criminals and their business influx in Kosovo from Saricland.

"KiM was and still is nothing more than Serbia´s southern province temporary ruled by foreign occupiers."

Wrong, Kosovo is under internatioal administration by the UN/UNMIK and not "occupied by foreign forces". Even Serbia is an UN member.

For those that think kosovo is an independant state, i would like to smoke whatever your having. Th ICJ will rule against the authors of the UDI because resolution 1244 verifies serbias sovereignty as well as the helsinki final act which reaffirms all countries sovereignty before kosovo albanians declared UDI. So icj will rule in serbian favor recognitions will cease and even countries like Poland, Czech Republic, Montenegro, Costa Rica, Italy, and portugal have all stated that they will respect the icj decision meaning repealing recognitions. Bye Bye "kosova" now theres going to be 9 countries in the Eu against you and then when Montenegro, Bosnia, and serbia join theres going to be 12! hahaha give up now. The best is though that when serbia sends its information to the eu its including kosovo as its province and all of its population into its own.
(anonymous, 15 April 2010 23:15)
Why downgrade from your current stock, it seems to be top of the line.

Independence facing critical challenge:
1.Stay independent, or
2. Unification with Albania.
I vote for the second solution.
(Qiqavica)
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So this is all about an invasion? How can Albania even think of financially supporting this?

Our people are suffering and all you think about is your egotistical view on "greater-albania"... your a joker mate.

I am sorry to tell you but when your international friends are done whatever it is they're doing, Serb forces will be heading back your way, and Kosovo will be under Serbian control again. Good day :)

"So icj will rule in serbian favor recognitions will cease and even countries like Poland, Czech Republic, Montenegro, Costa Rica, Italy, and portugal have all stated that they will respect the icj decision meaning repealing recognitions. Bye Bye "kosova" now theres going to be 9 countries in the Eu against you and then when Montenegro, Bosnia, and serbia join theres going to be 12! hahaha give up now.
(Anonumous).

Is there another, even one Serb who thinks this is what will truly happen? Besides the wrong math and bad grammar when counting the EU countries, respecting ICJ advise it does not mean reversing recognition, it merely means will read about it in morning papers and then the debates in General Assembly of UN will start to take place at the request of pro-Serb countries. However, risking all by puting all eggs in one basket is Serbia's prorogative and choice. If there is a minimal chance that the decision will be neutral or pro UDI Serbia would have commmitted suicide on this matter. Have in mind the majority of judges preciding on ICJ come from countries that have recognized Kosovo's independence.
I strongly believe that Tadic and Co love this formula > insist not to recognize, let ICJ decide, but don't sign off Kosovo. That counts as a standing the ground, get points from EU for resolving the Kosovo issue, which in turn will woo the Serb voters on their pro-EU promise by not recognizing Kosovo.
Even Serb officials said they will respect the ICJ decision which does not mean they have to recognize Kosovo, but it means it will buy time for Serbia to re-negotiate Kosovo for EU-membership without Nato membership.
As far as Bosnia joining the EU...

For me it is obvious. Most probably Mr Feith have heard something from the ICJ about the upcoming verdict that is very much against the UDI. Also, several high level politicians have lately stated that Kosovo leaders MUST fight corruption otherwise..... I am pretty sure that the Kosovo experiment is about to come to a dead end very soon. For most of the educated people its quite obvious - its not possible to suddenly take a bit of a sovereign state and make it independent. I think and I am sure it will be very BIG changes for Kosovo pretty soon.

Is Thaci really a mafiosi thug as described here? If he is, why do the west deal with him?

I cannot believe that the west would put a mafia at the head of its creation.

If this is the case, I suppose it must be embarrassing for the western politicians to have to deal with him - particularly after all the effort to get rid of Milosevic.

Also, it might explain significance of the Fieth comments.

Please put me right on this.

"Independence facing critical challenge:
1.Stay independent, or
2. Unification with Albania.
I vote for the second solution." (Qiqavica)

Albanians in Albania don't want Kosovo.

I hear the talk of Kosovo uniting with Albania from the Kosovo Albanians but I don't hear it from the Albanians living in Albania. Why is that? Maybe they don't share your vision?

It may be that the news travel slower in the Land Down Under but parts of wall have been built and it continous so even as we speak. Not that I care for either side in that region but a wall around northern Kosovo border doesn't sound too bad. One can imagine no criminals and their business influx in Kosovo from Saricland.
(Jager Mirub, 16 April 2010 19:34)

There is absolutely no wall.

Jager Mirub:
> It may be that the news travel slower in the Land Down Under ..

Well actually, it probably does - at least in comparison with most western countries. current broadband line speed is ~1.7Mbps ;)

> ...but parts of wall have been built and it continous so even as we speak.

A lot of it by palestinians believe it or not.

> Not that I care for either side in that region ..

Feel sorry for the palestinians personally, but that isn't why I provided the link. Provided it as an example of what a decision by the ICJ looks like to those interested in the subject.

> ... but a wall around northern Kosovo border doesn't sound too bad.

If a wall is to be built, place to build it is along the Ibar.

> One can imagine no criminals and their business influx in Kosovo from Saricland.

Rats will always find a way but your hypothesis is flawed anyway - as concentration of rats in Thaciland is higher. And unlike in Serbia proper, king rat in Kosovo runs the place.

If K-albanians could get 'cleanskins' into power, then would not be the case. Sadly, didn't happen, nor is it likely to any time in the near future.

> respecting ICJ advise it does not mean reversing recognition

While 'Anonumous' is a tad optimistic (among other things), will undoubtably be a couple/few/some 'reversals' assuming of course that ICJ decision is favourable.

> However, risking all by puting all eggs in one basket is Serbia's prorogative and choice. If there is a minimal chance that the decision will be neutral or pro UDI Serbia would have commmitted suicide on this matter

And Serbia's other choices were exactly what? Military option, besides being wrong, is also out. Accepting the unilateral action is anathema & political poison. Leaving only action through the ICJ.

So in point of fact, Serbia isn't really risking anything as it has nothing to lose. Some may quip 'except Kosovo', but if Serbia does nothing, it is lost anyway.

> Have in mind the majority of judges preciding on ICJ come from countries that have recognized Kosovo's independence.

More accurate to say a 'bare majority' (of 8 to 7). But technically, this should have no bearing on the case itself.

Sadly, we live in an imperfect world where, amongst other things, judges can be bought &/or influenced by external influences.

Happily, the ICJ is not the ICTY. ICJ judges are far less likely to be influenced by the governments of their countries (except curiously enough for US judge who seemingly has a track record of not offending his government).

Will shortly know in any event.

"Is Thaci really a mafiosi thug as described here? If he is, why do the west deal with him?
I cannot believe that the west would put a mafia at the head of its creation."

Envolvement in criminal activities of Kosovo politicians has never been deeper investigated or even prosecuted. But feel free to search the internet about the Kosovo report from German intelligence service (BND) dated from February 2005. It will enlighten you.

But no, these politicians were not "put on head by the west", but voted by the Kosovo Albanians who consider them as 'heroes'. Because the west feared more violent protesting of their followers, the UNMIK police never tried to prosecute them, there are even reports that one of these 'politicians' was 'rescued' by US forces from being arrested by UNMIK police.

"I hear the talk of Kosovo uniting with Albania from the Kosovo Albanians but I don't hear it from the Albanians living in Albania. Why is that?" (American Eagle)

-- Because Albanians from Albania have more important things to worry about than foolish fantasies of greatness. The only people who waste inordinate amounts of time talking about this alleged Albanian "brotherhood" that would fight for Kosovo are diaspora Albanians in the West who can talk big and risk little. This site is flooded with them.

Is Thaci really a mafiosi thug as described here? If he is, why do the west deal with him?

I cannot believe that the west would put a mafia at the head of its creation.

If this is the case, I suppose it must be embarrassing for the western politicians to have to deal with him - particularly after all the effort to get rid of Milosevic.

Also, it might explain significance of the Fieth comments.

Please put me right on this.
(Bob, 17 April 2010 15:08)

Bob, sadly Thachi IS a mafia thug and it really is no surprise that the US and its allies want him in power. We have a long history of helping despots to rise to and remain in power... from our dictators we installed in Central America to various strongmen in the Middle East, this is nothing new. Saddam Hussein, the Shah if Iran, and Manuel Noriega, and Aribe are all examples. Yes, some fell from favor and were removed by us but the fact remains that when they served a purpose, as does Thachi right now, then they are not a problem.

What ever the ICJ rule the situation will not change. There is only one way Kosovo will be truly independent is if Serbia recognises it as an independent state. The west is bending over backwards to get Serbia on side and we will see more of this when Serbia has its next general election. Kosovo is stuck in Limbo be it a state or a southern province of Serbia or worse still a situation like Israel and Palestine.

Greater Albania not going to happen 1. Albania wants to be in the EU so it will not rock the boat 2. the EU will not back such a move as this would provoke Serbia.

Another reason contributing to Kosovo no moving forward is nobod outside of the Balkans really cares about Kosovo, there is very little or no media coverage, ask most everyday people about Kosovo i bet most couldn,t tell you where it was

Independence will never be undone. Remember those who live in Kosovo wants independence and no one in this world can do anything to change that. So no matter what happens Kosovo will NEVER be Serbian.
(A, 15 April 2010 10:32)

First of all, according to law Kosovo presently is Serbian. Secondly if you ask the Serbs who are confined to the heavily guarded compounds in Kosovo I would imagine they may not entirely agree with your statements.