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Monday, 12.04.2010.

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Serbs boycott vote in Kosovo municipality

Early mayoral elections were held in the municipality of Istok in Kosovo on Sunday.

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pre 14 godina

(erjon, 12 April 2010 19:51)


My father was a border guard in Kosovo and Macedonia for nearly 5 years from 1948. At the age of 82 he still carries a bullet in his back when he was shot by Albanian border guards in 1949 while on the Yugoslav side of the border.

During that time he witnessed many thousands of Albanians crossing over from Albania and the Tito regime providing them with housing and other forms of financial assistance as part of a resettlement program. From 1945 to 1965 well over 800,000 Albanians moved to Kosovo; while it is true that some did not stay but left for other countries, the majority remained in there. While it is also true that Albanians were living in Kosovo prior to 1945, but not in the current numbers.

My father interviewed many of these Albanian refugees and all claimed that they had left Albania because it was very hard to make a living and sought better conditions. Serbs began leaving Kosovo in the early late 1950s to get an education and jobs because that region was and still is primarily agricultural, but not in large numbers. Later it was because of the Albanians – look at how many of your fellow Muslims remained after 1999; you guys threw them all out. You people don’t even tolerate your own religious kind let alone Serbs.

If you claim that Kosovo is Albanian why are there no archeologically remains to confirm these claims? Where are the ruins going back to the early 1200s or BCE; why is there absolutely nothing connecting the Albanians to this region. Yes there are structures built by the Ottomans during their time in that region, but not a scrap of proof of this great Albanian culture.

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

(Mikael C, 13 April 2010 11:05)

Mikael C
And you saw several hundred thousands of people entering Yugoslavia? That's a pure lie. If you have seen that I would also at least on TV. There was no regime in Yugoslavia that would grant those people right to live, have property and even Yugoslav citizenship and passports. If they would come in Kosovo 30 years ago why they are not chosing Serbia now considering its EU perspective?

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Kosovo Angel is nothing more than propoganda.
(American Eagle, 13 April 2010 08:39)

That's what I am thinking, too. However I noticed in certain area (Vushtrri) young people, in particular young girls being violently anti-Serbian. Interestingly, they were pretty small during the conflict.

It is easy to meet them: they are working in the Emona. It's my second time and every time I am there - it's an insult. Still, it's a convenient supermarket just barely off the Ibar highway. But going there and listening to their crap is not a joy!

Last time: my Master Card did not work. The cashier was wondering, what is going on. I told her, I just used the card 30 or so minutes ago for a 50 Euro gasoline purchase around Leposavic (North Kosovo). The girls did shake their heads and said in Albanian somewhat, I understood only one word - "Shkija" and I wasn't impressed at all!

This time: we had bad luck, no one was speaking English. I tried with German - no luck either. I asked, can someone maybe speak Serbian - the girls begun boo and hiss and were grimacing. Again, I was underwhelmed.

What is interesting - in other areas no such reaction. And usually who speaks English and/or German has no problem to talk Serbian or quasi-Russian either. Maybe has a lot to do with education?

Radoslav

pre 14 godina

"The reason Serbs were leaving Kosovo was and still is due to albanian harrassment of Serbs."

As evidenced by articles such as those of the New York Times in the 70's and 80's. This, plus Tito's plans to reduce the number of Serbs in Kosovo by forcibly removing them, hence an increase (by a vast amount) of Albanians in souther Serbia and a huge reduction in Serbs in the same region.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Ataman,

I was in Kosovo, and I was also in a bus Gjakova - Skopje on the day of the Racak massacre --- 45 minutes after the massacre happened.

I'm glad to see you are using youtube as a reliable source.

Please don't try to enlighten us about a country and/or war that you yourself were 5,000 - 10,000 km away.
(RKS, 13 April 2010 02:38)

I do not enlighten, I ask. Youtube is what it is and home to pretty sick things. This one is sicker than the average "your momma" Serbian-Albanian quarrel I am used to and I an laughing at. Besides it looks to reveal that the West was active at destroying the YU and the ones who were involved do not object "Sieg Heil".

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Albanian camp here - I did see the video but didn't see the text you quoted.
(baker, 13 April 2010 02:28)

There it is, highlighted in grey:

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2429/screenshot20100413at139.png

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In any case: Damn! That little girl let our national secret out. lol. We thought it was in safe hands.
(baker, 13 April 2010 02:28)

Not sure, she is a girl tough. If she is - she is probably reciting what her older brothers or/and parents said. She was probably a child during conflict and I don't think she did see any "normal" Serb ever, probably only few (para)militaries. Where the hate from? Is it normal? Where the "Sieg Heil" is from? Is it normal?

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The thing is this is a much debated and has been thrown around by the Serb camp. It was not an instruction to provoke Serbia, it was rather an encouragement to play the final move that the Albanians were left with - taking up arms. That's it!
(baker, 13 April 2010 02:28)

So... was that a normal than? "Encouragement" from the outside to revolt? You said it.

LMN II, USA

pre 14 godina

Flooding someone elses territory and claim it for your own doesn´t always improve your life, not even with a "super power" backing you.


Indeed, a new low point in my country's history. While my country has done some very good things throughout history, we have also done some bad and dumb things as well. Helping Albanians steal Kosovo is both, bad and dumb!!!

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"The border between former Yugoslavia and Albania was such guarded that even a fly would not pass without being noticed from the armed forces in Yugoslavia and Albania"
Simpatiku

If I got a penny for everytime an albanian claimed this I would be a very rich man. There is no border that is 100 percent solid. The border between Serbia and Albania is mountenous and its impossible to cover every inch. I remember watching albanians entering Kosovo from Albania in the 80s. They had come over the mountains for a better life in Yugoslavia. It is a fact and you know it. However, it goes against the albanian cause which is why you want to make it look like you are the indigenous people of Kosovo while the fact is that this is nothing less then theft of Serbian land by immigrant albanians.

The reason Serbs were leaving Kosovo was and still is due to albanian harrassment of Serbs. I first heard of this in the 80s when albanians attacked priests and ordinary people. Not always physically but often with words of intimidation. The albanian plan in Kosovo has been to rid Kosovo of anything Serbs to claim that territory for themselves. WW2 crimes against Serbs by nazi albanians and the 2004 riots are proof of that.

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

Sorry to break this shocking news to you but albanians are immigrant/albanian refugees to Kosovo.
For example my wife is from Istok and several of their neighbours are albanians from Albania. They came 20-30 years ago and now claim Kosovo to be their territory.
After WW2 there were more serbs than albanians living in Kosovo. How do you think the number of albanians increased so fast? Immigration and a abnormal birthrate amongst unemployed and uneducated albanian families. If all albanian albanins went back to Albania there would be a slight majority for the albanians, due to the fact that you have 8-10 children families.
(Mikael C, 12 April 2010 18:28)

Mikael C
This is not shock for me at all because all you said is lie that has been served to you. 20-30 years ago is not long time ago where there was no TV or radio or journalists on the ground and if that was true the media would record such emigration from Albania. The border between former Yugoslavia and Albania was such guarded that even a fly would not pass without being noticed from the armed forces in Yugoslavia and Albania. This is widely known in the region. Being in this situation there was no way that such a large number of people (we are talking hundreds of thousands) could enter Yugoslavia. Therefore this is pure propaganda and I advice you not to be so naive. Also, it is widely known that number of serbs just after WWII was higher than 20-30 years later. Why? Answer is simple. Just go to the serbian version of this site and see how much you can buy an apartment in Belgrade. If not cheaper, it is at least same price like in Pristina. So now tell me by having this choice who would like to live in undeveloped Kosovo if another choice exists? Simply sell the property in Kosovo and get one in capital with the same price or cheaper. That's what has happened. Only when serbian government decided to forbid the selling of properties to albanians had Kosovo serbs started to complain. Even after 1989 Serbian government has tried in various way to change the ethnic structure but to no awail. They still were leaving Kosovo. Now Kosovo government is rebuilding some of their houses in Kosovo to incourage the return and I bet that even after return they will look for better options in Serbia or Montenegro.

American Eagle

pre 14 godina

Kosovo Angel is nothing more than propoganda. I also hate to see the use of my flag or the name of my country in this kind of propoganda. Albanians have no right to claim our heritage or background. They are not Americans and never will be.

American Eagle

pre 14 godina

The adage that if don't vote, you can't complain only applied to legitimate governments with an established democracy, like in the United States. Elsewhere, political parties will boycott elections, as in tolitarian regimes, to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the government. That is what the Serbian population is doing in Istok. It is their right and they can complain because the international community tries to force a government they do not accept onto them.

A question for the Albanians here. Istok is the Serbian word for East. Does Istog mean something in Albanian or is just a mispronunciation of Istok?

Ron

pre 14 godina

# If you don't vote, don't even think you have the right to complain.
(RKS, 12 April 2010 22:11)

Indeed, all in Kosovo should take part in the national Serbian elections. As Kosovo is a Serbian province!

baker

pre 14 godina

@Ataman

Albanian camp here - I did see the video but didn't see the text you quoted.
In any case:
Damn! That little girl let our national secret out. lol. We thought it was in safe hands.

The thing is this is a much debated and has been thrown around by the Serb camp. It was not an instruction to provoke Serbia, it was rather an encouragement to play the final move that the Albanians were left with - taking up arms. That's it!

RKS

pre 14 godina

Ataman,

I was in Kosovo, and I was also in a bus Gjakova - Skopje on the day of the Racak massacre --- 45 minutes after the massacre happened.

I'm glad to see you are using youtube as a reliable source.

Please don't try to enlighten us about a country and/or war that you yourself were 5,000 - 10,000 km away.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

What kind of choice Serbs can have?

This is the peace message from Kosovo to Serbs on youtube from a cute Albanian dove, her nick is KoSoVaAnGeL:

http://www.youtube.com/user/KoSoVaAnGeL

"In 1998 we had alot of support from USA and NATO in getting out of Serbia. Of course this was never public but in the background western leaders told us to do our best to provocate a conflict vs the Serbs. The western leaders knew how evil Serbs will act and just over a year in war they stopped Serbia by bombing it for 78 days."

Read it please, read it.

True, at the end the peaceful dove-girl writes:

"May God help the good people from not getting hurt from the bad people but also may God help the bad people to become good one."

How nice.

But if Serbs believe such messages - they are naive.

The true message from this lady is somewhere else on youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=vtY73Y5w890

"y00 Croatian friend.

Sieg Heil to you too from Kosovo."

Yes, "Sieg Heil" from Kosovo, posted on some SS-related crap. And we have few people more out there who approve it.

I would like to hear from NORMAL Albanians here like Gustave, Village-Bey and others, how to interpret all this, in particular the 1998 story she wrote and the "Sieg Heil". Totally confused person? She is obviously from a good family, they can afford computers and fast internet. And she did not find it out by herself that 1998 story - sure, someone told it to her and was proud about it.

NK

pre 14 godina

I am from Istog.
I just don't understand why would they refuse to vote? Istog is the most peacuful city in Kosovo. It never happened to bother any Serb in there after the war. I think that people in Osojane should participate in elections and improve their lives. Those thugs who tried to manipulate votes, the eight that got arrested they are from another cities, most of them are Hardinaj's party, they tried to make trouble in out peaceful city, but they got what the deserved.

Jason

pre 14 godina

If you don't vote you can't complain!.
(Nelli_Canada, 12 April 2010, 19:11)

Not always true... if both of the choices suck, I don't vote. Hence our US presidential elections!

Staff

pre 14 godina

To Serbs in Kosovo: Continue to boycott all elections. There is no reason in the world to vote, because Kosovo is not a country according to UN and EU. Some countries have recognized but that will be sorted out when ICJs verdict is coming. So, follow Serbia and it will take time, but all will settle. Just say NO.

erjon

pre 14 godina

Serbs did not make up the majority in Kosova before WW2.

I love how Serbs claim that Albanian immigrants came to Kosova after WW2 when in fact it was not Albanians but Serbs that did such thing.

Serbia exiled hundreds of thousands of Albanians to Turkey and encouraged Serbs to settle there. That is why Albanians made up a bigger majority in Kosova during the 1800's than the early 20th century. The border between Yugoslavia and Albania was heavily guarded, anyone crossing the border would be shot on sight in most cases or jailed. Probably than 1,000 Albanians emigrated in Kosova during the communist period, so spare us the Serbian propaganda bs about a mass exodus.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

Many others from diaspora serbs believe albanians are emigrants in Kosovo
Simpatiku

Sorry to break this shocking news to you but albanians are immigrant/albanian refugees to Kosovo.
For example my wife is from Istok and several of their neighbours are albanians from Albania. They came 20-30 years ago and now claim Kosovo to be their territory.
After WW2 there were more serbs than albanians living in Kosovo. How do you think the number of albanians increased so fast? Immigration and a abnormal birthrate amongst unemployed and uneducated albanian families. If all albanian albanins went back to Albania there would be a slight majority for the albanians, due to the fact that you have 8-10 children families.

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

Democratic league of Dardania, what the hell? Are the local Albanians trying to change the name of KiM? Kosovars, Illyrians, Dardanians, what are these people? Make up your minds.
(winston)
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They're seeking an identity, thats the main issue at hand.

They do not like being called Albanian for some reason. Albanians are a fairly new nation to Europe, I guess they hate that fact. When you mention the term they "pretend" to be all patriotic and loving yet they choose to flee and preach the "albanian love" on foreign grounds, and make up stories that come from fantasy books. Dardania? please !!! Nothing but primitive barbarians that didnt last long in history.

Embrace your roots, stop combatting them. You are Albanian and be proud. But as long as you live in Serbia, you are indeed Serbian (with albanian ethnicity) of course.

winston

pre 14 godina

Democratic league of Dardania, what the hell? Are the local Albanians trying to change the name of KiM? Kosovars, Illyrians, Dardanians, what are these people? Make up your minds.

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

Daniel,

Well, Serbia includes Kosovo. Serbia is the house and home of Serbians. But also of Albanians, Hungarians and others.
(Ron, 12 April 2010 14:19)

At least thank you for recognizing our right to live in Kosovo. Many others from diaspora serbs believe albanians are emigrants in Kosovo

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

Serbs who make up ONLY 2% of total popultaion of Kosovo are micro-minority in Kosovo. Serbs boycotting the vote in Kosovo municipality IS just a drop in a ocean.

Even if they participated they would have NOT been noticed.
(PRN)
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These are Serbian citizens just as you are, duhh

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

Of course I care, but if they don't want to take part in election, than I don't care.
(Kosova-USA)
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You should care because this movement by the native-Serbs shows how weak your so-called "government" really is.

I can see how this can be un-settling for you, concidering the fact that the Serbo-albanians have absolutely no say in this.

But this shouldn't be much of a surprise for any of you if you look at the logistics; You country is in fact Serbia, you are in-fact Serbian with albanian heritage, and your "allies" wont and cannot do anything about it either. So please... we don't need you to "care", more power to us ;)

kh

pre 14 godina

"For someone who complains about this site, he is on it always."

Who could blame them from their hatred sitting in internet cafe´s all day? They are locked in their NATO-gulag-camp of "kosova" with no job, no money and nothing but EUSSR-well fare and their traditional hatred towards anything non-alb in general and serbs in particular...

Flooding someone elses territory and claim it for your own doesn´t always improve your life, not even with a "super power" backing you.

PRN

pre 14 godina

Serbs who make up ONLY 2% of total popultaion of Kosovo are micro-minority in Kosovo. Serbs boycotting the vote in Kosovo municipality IS just a drop in a ocean.

Even if they participated they would have NOT been noticed.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Kosova-USA, B92 is a Serbian site, so of course they would care. By the way, if you don't care, why are you commenting about this on a Serbian site?
(Daniel, 12 April 2010 12:27)

Of course I care, but if they don't want to take part in election, than I don't care.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Kosova-USA, B92 is a Serbian site, so of course they would care. By the way, if you don't care, why are you commenting about this on a Serbian site?
(Daniel, 12 April 2010 12:27)
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Not only this story. He comments on every story.

For someone who complains about this site, he is on it always.

Daniel

pre 14 godina

Kosova-USA, B92 is a Serbian site, so of course they would care. By the way, if you don't care, why are you commenting about this on a Serbian site?

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

First of all, who cares if Serbs from Osojane did not vote.
Second, those eight thugs arrested were from another Municiaplity, and they belong to Ramush's party. All eight were detained and today at 11am are all in front of the judge.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Kosova-USA, B92 is a Serbian site, so of course they would care. By the way, if you don't care, why are you commenting about this on a Serbian site?
(Daniel, 12 April 2010 12:27)
====================

Not only this story. He comments on every story.

For someone who complains about this site, he is on it always.

Daniel

pre 14 godina

Kosova-USA, B92 is a Serbian site, so of course they would care. By the way, if you don't care, why are you commenting about this on a Serbian site?

kh

pre 14 godina

"For someone who complains about this site, he is on it always."

Who could blame them from their hatred sitting in internet cafe´s all day? They are locked in their NATO-gulag-camp of "kosova" with no job, no money and nothing but EUSSR-well fare and their traditional hatred towards anything non-alb in general and serbs in particular...

Flooding someone elses territory and claim it for your own doesn´t always improve your life, not even with a "super power" backing you.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

Many others from diaspora serbs believe albanians are emigrants in Kosovo
Simpatiku

Sorry to break this shocking news to you but albanians are immigrant/albanian refugees to Kosovo.
For example my wife is from Istok and several of their neighbours are albanians from Albania. They came 20-30 years ago and now claim Kosovo to be their territory.
After WW2 there were more serbs than albanians living in Kosovo. How do you think the number of albanians increased so fast? Immigration and a abnormal birthrate amongst unemployed and uneducated albanian families. If all albanian albanins went back to Albania there would be a slight majority for the albanians, due to the fact that you have 8-10 children families.

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

Serbs who make up ONLY 2% of total popultaion of Kosovo are micro-minority in Kosovo. Serbs boycotting the vote in Kosovo municipality IS just a drop in a ocean.

Even if they participated they would have NOT been noticed.
(PRN)
-
These are Serbian citizens just as you are, duhh

winston

pre 14 godina

Democratic league of Dardania, what the hell? Are the local Albanians trying to change the name of KiM? Kosovars, Illyrians, Dardanians, what are these people? Make up your minds.

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

Of course I care, but if they don't want to take part in election, than I don't care.
(Kosova-USA)
-
You should care because this movement by the native-Serbs shows how weak your so-called "government" really is.

I can see how this can be un-settling for you, concidering the fact that the Serbo-albanians have absolutely no say in this.

But this shouldn't be much of a surprise for any of you if you look at the logistics; You country is in fact Serbia, you are in-fact Serbian with albanian heritage, and your "allies" wont and cannot do anything about it either. So please... we don't need you to "care", more power to us ;)

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

Democratic league of Dardania, what the hell? Are the local Albanians trying to change the name of KiM? Kosovars, Illyrians, Dardanians, what are these people? Make up your minds.
(winston)
-
They're seeking an identity, thats the main issue at hand.

They do not like being called Albanian for some reason. Albanians are a fairly new nation to Europe, I guess they hate that fact. When you mention the term they "pretend" to be all patriotic and loving yet they choose to flee and preach the "albanian love" on foreign grounds, and make up stories that come from fantasy books. Dardania? please !!! Nothing but primitive barbarians that didnt last long in history.

Embrace your roots, stop combatting them. You are Albanian and be proud. But as long as you live in Serbia, you are indeed Serbian (with albanian ethnicity) of course.

Jason

pre 14 godina

If you don't vote you can't complain!.
(Nelli_Canada, 12 April 2010, 19:11)

Not always true... if both of the choices suck, I don't vote. Hence our US presidential elections!

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

First of all, who cares if Serbs from Osojane did not vote.
Second, those eight thugs arrested were from another Municiaplity, and they belong to Ramush's party. All eight were detained and today at 11am are all in front of the judge.

Staff

pre 14 godina

To Serbs in Kosovo: Continue to boycott all elections. There is no reason in the world to vote, because Kosovo is not a country according to UN and EU. Some countries have recognized but that will be sorted out when ICJs verdict is coming. So, follow Serbia and it will take time, but all will settle. Just say NO.

PRN

pre 14 godina

Serbs who make up ONLY 2% of total popultaion of Kosovo are micro-minority in Kosovo. Serbs boycotting the vote in Kosovo municipality IS just a drop in a ocean.

Even if they participated they would have NOT been noticed.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

What kind of choice Serbs can have?

This is the peace message from Kosovo to Serbs on youtube from a cute Albanian dove, her nick is KoSoVaAnGeL:

http://www.youtube.com/user/KoSoVaAnGeL

"In 1998 we had alot of support from USA and NATO in getting out of Serbia. Of course this was never public but in the background western leaders told us to do our best to provocate a conflict vs the Serbs. The western leaders knew how evil Serbs will act and just over a year in war they stopped Serbia by bombing it for 78 days."

Read it please, read it.

True, at the end the peaceful dove-girl writes:

"May God help the good people from not getting hurt from the bad people but also may God help the bad people to become good one."

How nice.

But if Serbs believe such messages - they are naive.

The true message from this lady is somewhere else on youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=vtY73Y5w890

"y00 Croatian friend.

Sieg Heil to you too from Kosovo."

Yes, "Sieg Heil" from Kosovo, posted on some SS-related crap. And we have few people more out there who approve it.

I would like to hear from NORMAL Albanians here like Gustave, Village-Bey and others, how to interpret all this, in particular the 1998 story she wrote and the "Sieg Heil". Totally confused person? She is obviously from a good family, they can afford computers and fast internet. And she did not find it out by herself that 1998 story - sure, someone told it to her and was proud about it.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"The border between former Yugoslavia and Albania was such guarded that even a fly would not pass without being noticed from the armed forces in Yugoslavia and Albania"
Simpatiku

If I got a penny for everytime an albanian claimed this I would be a very rich man. There is no border that is 100 percent solid. The border between Serbia and Albania is mountenous and its impossible to cover every inch. I remember watching albanians entering Kosovo from Albania in the 80s. They had come over the mountains for a better life in Yugoslavia. It is a fact and you know it. However, it goes against the albanian cause which is why you want to make it look like you are the indigenous people of Kosovo while the fact is that this is nothing less then theft of Serbian land by immigrant albanians.

The reason Serbs were leaving Kosovo was and still is due to albanian harrassment of Serbs. I first heard of this in the 80s when albanians attacked priests and ordinary people. Not always physically but often with words of intimidation. The albanian plan in Kosovo has been to rid Kosovo of anything Serbs to claim that territory for themselves. WW2 crimes against Serbs by nazi albanians and the 2004 riots are proof of that.

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

Daniel,

Well, Serbia includes Kosovo. Serbia is the house and home of Serbians. But also of Albanians, Hungarians and others.
(Ron, 12 April 2010 14:19)

At least thank you for recognizing our right to live in Kosovo. Many others from diaspora serbs believe albanians are emigrants in Kosovo

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Kosova-USA, B92 is a Serbian site, so of course they would care. By the way, if you don't care, why are you commenting about this on a Serbian site?
(Daniel, 12 April 2010 12:27)

Of course I care, but if they don't want to take part in election, than I don't care.

LMN II, USA

pre 14 godina

Flooding someone elses territory and claim it for your own doesn´t always improve your life, not even with a "super power" backing you.


Indeed, a new low point in my country's history. While my country has done some very good things throughout history, we have also done some bad and dumb things as well. Helping Albanians steal Kosovo is both, bad and dumb!!!

Radoslav

pre 14 godina

"The reason Serbs were leaving Kosovo was and still is due to albanian harrassment of Serbs."

As evidenced by articles such as those of the New York Times in the 70's and 80's. This, plus Tito's plans to reduce the number of Serbs in Kosovo by forcibly removing them, hence an increase (by a vast amount) of Albanians in souther Serbia and a huge reduction in Serbs in the same region.

erjon

pre 14 godina

Serbs did not make up the majority in Kosova before WW2.

I love how Serbs claim that Albanian immigrants came to Kosova after WW2 when in fact it was not Albanians but Serbs that did such thing.

Serbia exiled hundreds of thousands of Albanians to Turkey and encouraged Serbs to settle there. That is why Albanians made up a bigger majority in Kosova during the 1800's than the early 20th century. The border between Yugoslavia and Albania was heavily guarded, anyone crossing the border would be shot on sight in most cases or jailed. Probably than 1,000 Albanians emigrated in Kosova during the communist period, so spare us the Serbian propaganda bs about a mass exodus.

Ron

pre 14 godina

# If you don't vote, don't even think you have the right to complain.
(RKS, 12 April 2010 22:11)

Indeed, all in Kosovo should take part in the national Serbian elections. As Kosovo is a Serbian province!

American Eagle

pre 14 godina

The adage that if don't vote, you can't complain only applied to legitimate governments with an established democracy, like in the United States. Elsewhere, political parties will boycott elections, as in tolitarian regimes, to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the government. That is what the Serbian population is doing in Istok. It is their right and they can complain because the international community tries to force a government they do not accept onto them.

A question for the Albanians here. Istok is the Serbian word for East. Does Istog mean something in Albanian or is just a mispronunciation of Istok?

American Eagle

pre 14 godina

Kosovo Angel is nothing more than propoganda. I also hate to see the use of my flag or the name of my country in this kind of propoganda. Albanians have no right to claim our heritage or background. They are not Americans and never will be.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Ataman,

I was in Kosovo, and I was also in a bus Gjakova - Skopje on the day of the Racak massacre --- 45 minutes after the massacre happened.

I'm glad to see you are using youtube as a reliable source.

Please don't try to enlighten us about a country and/or war that you yourself were 5,000 - 10,000 km away.
(RKS, 13 April 2010 02:38)

I do not enlighten, I ask. Youtube is what it is and home to pretty sick things. This one is sicker than the average "your momma" Serbian-Albanian quarrel I am used to and I an laughing at. Besides it looks to reveal that the West was active at destroying the YU and the ones who were involved do not object "Sieg Heil".

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Albanian camp here - I did see the video but didn't see the text you quoted.
(baker, 13 April 2010 02:28)

There it is, highlighted in grey:

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2429/screenshot20100413at139.png

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In any case: Damn! That little girl let our national secret out. lol. We thought it was in safe hands.
(baker, 13 April 2010 02:28)

Not sure, she is a girl tough. If she is - she is probably reciting what her older brothers or/and parents said. She was probably a child during conflict and I don't think she did see any "normal" Serb ever, probably only few (para)militaries. Where the hate from? Is it normal? Where the "Sieg Heil" is from? Is it normal?

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The thing is this is a much debated and has been thrown around by the Serb camp. It was not an instruction to provoke Serbia, it was rather an encouragement to play the final move that the Albanians were left with - taking up arms. That's it!
(baker, 13 April 2010 02:28)

So... was that a normal than? "Encouragement" from the outside to revolt? You said it.

NK

pre 14 godina

I am from Istog.
I just don't understand why would they refuse to vote? Istog is the most peacuful city in Kosovo. It never happened to bother any Serb in there after the war. I think that people in Osojane should participate in elections and improve their lives. Those thugs who tried to manipulate votes, the eight that got arrested they are from another cities, most of them are Hardinaj's party, they tried to make trouble in out peaceful city, but they got what the deserved.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Kosovo Angel is nothing more than propoganda.
(American Eagle, 13 April 2010 08:39)

That's what I am thinking, too. However I noticed in certain area (Vushtrri) young people, in particular young girls being violently anti-Serbian. Interestingly, they were pretty small during the conflict.

It is easy to meet them: they are working in the Emona. It's my second time and every time I am there - it's an insult. Still, it's a convenient supermarket just barely off the Ibar highway. But going there and listening to their crap is not a joy!

Last time: my Master Card did not work. The cashier was wondering, what is going on. I told her, I just used the card 30 or so minutes ago for a 50 Euro gasoline purchase around Leposavic (North Kosovo). The girls did shake their heads and said in Albanian somewhat, I understood only one word - "Shkija" and I wasn't impressed at all!

This time: we had bad luck, no one was speaking English. I tried with German - no luck either. I asked, can someone maybe speak Serbian - the girls begun boo and hiss and were grimacing. Again, I was underwhelmed.

What is interesting - in other areas no such reaction. And usually who speaks English and/or German has no problem to talk Serbian or quasi-Russian either. Maybe has a lot to do with education?

sj

pre 14 godina

(erjon, 12 April 2010 19:51)


My father was a border guard in Kosovo and Macedonia for nearly 5 years from 1948. At the age of 82 he still carries a bullet in his back when he was shot by Albanian border guards in 1949 while on the Yugoslav side of the border.

During that time he witnessed many thousands of Albanians crossing over from Albania and the Tito regime providing them with housing and other forms of financial assistance as part of a resettlement program. From 1945 to 1965 well over 800,000 Albanians moved to Kosovo; while it is true that some did not stay but left for other countries, the majority remained in there. While it is also true that Albanians were living in Kosovo prior to 1945, but not in the current numbers.

My father interviewed many of these Albanian refugees and all claimed that they had left Albania because it was very hard to make a living and sought better conditions. Serbs began leaving Kosovo in the early late 1950s to get an education and jobs because that region was and still is primarily agricultural, but not in large numbers. Later it was because of the Albanians – look at how many of your fellow Muslims remained after 1999; you guys threw them all out. You people don’t even tolerate your own religious kind let alone Serbs.

If you claim that Kosovo is Albanian why are there no archeologically remains to confirm these claims? Where are the ruins going back to the early 1200s or BCE; why is there absolutely nothing connecting the Albanians to this region. Yes there are structures built by the Ottomans during their time in that region, but not a scrap of proof of this great Albanian culture.

RKS

pre 14 godina

Ataman,

I was in Kosovo, and I was also in a bus Gjakova - Skopje on the day of the Racak massacre --- 45 minutes after the massacre happened.

I'm glad to see you are using youtube as a reliable source.

Please don't try to enlighten us about a country and/or war that you yourself were 5,000 - 10,000 km away.

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

Sorry to break this shocking news to you but albanians are immigrant/albanian refugees to Kosovo.
For example my wife is from Istok and several of their neighbours are albanians from Albania. They came 20-30 years ago and now claim Kosovo to be their territory.
After WW2 there were more serbs than albanians living in Kosovo. How do you think the number of albanians increased so fast? Immigration and a abnormal birthrate amongst unemployed and uneducated albanian families. If all albanian albanins went back to Albania there would be a slight majority for the albanians, due to the fact that you have 8-10 children families.
(Mikael C, 12 April 2010 18:28)

Mikael C
This is not shock for me at all because all you said is lie that has been served to you. 20-30 years ago is not long time ago where there was no TV or radio or journalists on the ground and if that was true the media would record such emigration from Albania. The border between former Yugoslavia and Albania was such guarded that even a fly would not pass without being noticed from the armed forces in Yugoslavia and Albania. This is widely known in the region. Being in this situation there was no way that such a large number of people (we are talking hundreds of thousands) could enter Yugoslavia. Therefore this is pure propaganda and I advice you not to be so naive. Also, it is widely known that number of serbs just after WWII was higher than 20-30 years later. Why? Answer is simple. Just go to the serbian version of this site and see how much you can buy an apartment in Belgrade. If not cheaper, it is at least same price like in Pristina. So now tell me by having this choice who would like to live in undeveloped Kosovo if another choice exists? Simply sell the property in Kosovo and get one in capital with the same price or cheaper. That's what has happened. Only when serbian government decided to forbid the selling of properties to albanians had Kosovo serbs started to complain. Even after 1989 Serbian government has tried in various way to change the ethnic structure but to no awail. They still were leaving Kosovo. Now Kosovo government is rebuilding some of their houses in Kosovo to incourage the return and I bet that even after return they will look for better options in Serbia or Montenegro.

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

(Mikael C, 13 April 2010 11:05)

Mikael C
And you saw several hundred thousands of people entering Yugoslavia? That's a pure lie. If you have seen that I would also at least on TV. There was no regime in Yugoslavia that would grant those people right to live, have property and even Yugoslav citizenship and passports. If they would come in Kosovo 30 years ago why they are not chosing Serbia now considering its EU perspective?

baker

pre 14 godina

@Ataman

Albanian camp here - I did see the video but didn't see the text you quoted.
In any case:
Damn! That little girl let our national secret out. lol. We thought it was in safe hands.

The thing is this is a much debated and has been thrown around by the Serb camp. It was not an instruction to provoke Serbia, it was rather an encouragement to play the final move that the Albanians were left with - taking up arms. That's it!

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

First of all, who cares if Serbs from Osojane did not vote.
Second, those eight thugs arrested were from another Municiaplity, and they belong to Ramush's party. All eight were detained and today at 11am are all in front of the judge.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Kosova-USA, B92 is a Serbian site, so of course they would care. By the way, if you don't care, why are you commenting about this on a Serbian site?
(Daniel, 12 April 2010 12:27)

Of course I care, but if they don't want to take part in election, than I don't care.

PRN

pre 14 godina

Serbs who make up ONLY 2% of total popultaion of Kosovo are micro-minority in Kosovo. Serbs boycotting the vote in Kosovo municipality IS just a drop in a ocean.

Even if they participated they would have NOT been noticed.

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

Daniel,

Well, Serbia includes Kosovo. Serbia is the house and home of Serbians. But also of Albanians, Hungarians and others.
(Ron, 12 April 2010 14:19)

At least thank you for recognizing our right to live in Kosovo. Many others from diaspora serbs believe albanians are emigrants in Kosovo

winston

pre 14 godina

Democratic league of Dardania, what the hell? Are the local Albanians trying to change the name of KiM? Kosovars, Illyrians, Dardanians, what are these people? Make up your minds.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

Many others from diaspora serbs believe albanians are emigrants in Kosovo
Simpatiku

Sorry to break this shocking news to you but albanians are immigrant/albanian refugees to Kosovo.
For example my wife is from Istok and several of their neighbours are albanians from Albania. They came 20-30 years ago and now claim Kosovo to be their territory.
After WW2 there were more serbs than albanians living in Kosovo. How do you think the number of albanians increased so fast? Immigration and a abnormal birthrate amongst unemployed and uneducated albanian families. If all albanian albanins went back to Albania there would be a slight majority for the albanians, due to the fact that you have 8-10 children families.

erjon

pre 14 godina

Serbs did not make up the majority in Kosova before WW2.

I love how Serbs claim that Albanian immigrants came to Kosova after WW2 when in fact it was not Albanians but Serbs that did such thing.

Serbia exiled hundreds of thousands of Albanians to Turkey and encouraged Serbs to settle there. That is why Albanians made up a bigger majority in Kosova during the 1800's than the early 20th century. The border between Yugoslavia and Albania was heavily guarded, anyone crossing the border would be shot on sight in most cases or jailed. Probably than 1,000 Albanians emigrated in Kosova during the communist period, so spare us the Serbian propaganda bs about a mass exodus.

Daniel

pre 14 godina

Kosova-USA, B92 is a Serbian site, so of course they would care. By the way, if you don't care, why are you commenting about this on a Serbian site?

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Kosova-USA, B92 is a Serbian site, so of course they would care. By the way, if you don't care, why are you commenting about this on a Serbian site?
(Daniel, 12 April 2010 12:27)
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Not only this story. He comments on every story.

For someone who complains about this site, he is on it always.

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

Democratic league of Dardania, what the hell? Are the local Albanians trying to change the name of KiM? Kosovars, Illyrians, Dardanians, what are these people? Make up your minds.
(winston)
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They're seeking an identity, thats the main issue at hand.

They do not like being called Albanian for some reason. Albanians are a fairly new nation to Europe, I guess they hate that fact. When you mention the term they "pretend" to be all patriotic and loving yet they choose to flee and preach the "albanian love" on foreign grounds, and make up stories that come from fantasy books. Dardania? please !!! Nothing but primitive barbarians that didnt last long in history.

Embrace your roots, stop combatting them. You are Albanian and be proud. But as long as you live in Serbia, you are indeed Serbian (with albanian ethnicity) of course.

kh

pre 14 godina

"For someone who complains about this site, he is on it always."

Who could blame them from their hatred sitting in internet cafe´s all day? They are locked in their NATO-gulag-camp of "kosova" with no job, no money and nothing but EUSSR-well fare and their traditional hatred towards anything non-alb in general and serbs in particular...

Flooding someone elses territory and claim it for your own doesn´t always improve your life, not even with a "super power" backing you.

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

Serbs who make up ONLY 2% of total popultaion of Kosovo are micro-minority in Kosovo. Serbs boycotting the vote in Kosovo municipality IS just a drop in a ocean.

Even if they participated they would have NOT been noticed.
(PRN)
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These are Serbian citizens just as you are, duhh

RKS

pre 14 godina

Ataman,

I was in Kosovo, and I was also in a bus Gjakova - Skopje on the day of the Racak massacre --- 45 minutes after the massacre happened.

I'm glad to see you are using youtube as a reliable source.

Please don't try to enlighten us about a country and/or war that you yourself were 5,000 - 10,000 km away.

NK

pre 14 godina

I am from Istog.
I just don't understand why would they refuse to vote? Istog is the most peacuful city in Kosovo. It never happened to bother any Serb in there after the war. I think that people in Osojane should participate in elections and improve their lives. Those thugs who tried to manipulate votes, the eight that got arrested they are from another cities, most of them are Hardinaj's party, they tried to make trouble in out peaceful city, but they got what the deserved.

baker

pre 14 godina

@Ataman

Albanian camp here - I did see the video but didn't see the text you quoted.
In any case:
Damn! That little girl let our national secret out. lol. We thought it was in safe hands.

The thing is this is a much debated and has been thrown around by the Serb camp. It was not an instruction to provoke Serbia, it was rather an encouragement to play the final move that the Albanians were left with - taking up arms. That's it!

Staff

pre 14 godina

To Serbs in Kosovo: Continue to boycott all elections. There is no reason in the world to vote, because Kosovo is not a country according to UN and EU. Some countries have recognized but that will be sorted out when ICJs verdict is coming. So, follow Serbia and it will take time, but all will settle. Just say NO.

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

Sorry to break this shocking news to you but albanians are immigrant/albanian refugees to Kosovo.
For example my wife is from Istok and several of their neighbours are albanians from Albania. They came 20-30 years ago and now claim Kosovo to be their territory.
After WW2 there were more serbs than albanians living in Kosovo. How do you think the number of albanians increased so fast? Immigration and a abnormal birthrate amongst unemployed and uneducated albanian families. If all albanian albanins went back to Albania there would be a slight majority for the albanians, due to the fact that you have 8-10 children families.
(Mikael C, 12 April 2010 18:28)

Mikael C
This is not shock for me at all because all you said is lie that has been served to you. 20-30 years ago is not long time ago where there was no TV or radio or journalists on the ground and if that was true the media would record such emigration from Albania. The border between former Yugoslavia and Albania was such guarded that even a fly would not pass without being noticed from the armed forces in Yugoslavia and Albania. This is widely known in the region. Being in this situation there was no way that such a large number of people (we are talking hundreds of thousands) could enter Yugoslavia. Therefore this is pure propaganda and I advice you not to be so naive. Also, it is widely known that number of serbs just after WWII was higher than 20-30 years later. Why? Answer is simple. Just go to the serbian version of this site and see how much you can buy an apartment in Belgrade. If not cheaper, it is at least same price like in Pristina. So now tell me by having this choice who would like to live in undeveloped Kosovo if another choice exists? Simply sell the property in Kosovo and get one in capital with the same price or cheaper. That's what has happened. Only when serbian government decided to forbid the selling of properties to albanians had Kosovo serbs started to complain. Even after 1989 Serbian government has tried in various way to change the ethnic structure but to no awail. They still were leaving Kosovo. Now Kosovo government is rebuilding some of their houses in Kosovo to incourage the return and I bet that even after return they will look for better options in Serbia or Montenegro.

Jason

pre 14 godina

If you don't vote you can't complain!.
(Nelli_Canada, 12 April 2010, 19:11)

Not always true... if both of the choices suck, I don't vote. Hence our US presidential elections!

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

Of course I care, but if they don't want to take part in election, than I don't care.
(Kosova-USA)
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You should care because this movement by the native-Serbs shows how weak your so-called "government" really is.

I can see how this can be un-settling for you, concidering the fact that the Serbo-albanians have absolutely no say in this.

But this shouldn't be much of a surprise for any of you if you look at the logistics; You country is in fact Serbia, you are in-fact Serbian with albanian heritage, and your "allies" wont and cannot do anything about it either. So please... we don't need you to "care", more power to us ;)

Simpatiku

pre 14 godina

(Mikael C, 13 April 2010 11:05)

Mikael C
And you saw several hundred thousands of people entering Yugoslavia? That's a pure lie. If you have seen that I would also at least on TV. There was no regime in Yugoslavia that would grant those people right to live, have property and even Yugoslav citizenship and passports. If they would come in Kosovo 30 years ago why they are not chosing Serbia now considering its EU perspective?

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Kosovo Angel is nothing more than propoganda.
(American Eagle, 13 April 2010 08:39)

That's what I am thinking, too. However I noticed in certain area (Vushtrri) young people, in particular young girls being violently anti-Serbian. Interestingly, they were pretty small during the conflict.

It is easy to meet them: they are working in the Emona. It's my second time and every time I am there - it's an insult. Still, it's a convenient supermarket just barely off the Ibar highway. But going there and listening to their crap is not a joy!

Last time: my Master Card did not work. The cashier was wondering, what is going on. I told her, I just used the card 30 or so minutes ago for a 50 Euro gasoline purchase around Leposavic (North Kosovo). The girls did shake their heads and said in Albanian somewhat, I understood only one word - "Shkija" and I wasn't impressed at all!

This time: we had bad luck, no one was speaking English. I tried with German - no luck either. I asked, can someone maybe speak Serbian - the girls begun boo and hiss and were grimacing. Again, I was underwhelmed.

What is interesting - in other areas no such reaction. And usually who speaks English and/or German has no problem to talk Serbian or quasi-Russian either. Maybe has a lot to do with education?

Ataman

pre 14 godina

What kind of choice Serbs can have?

This is the peace message from Kosovo to Serbs on youtube from a cute Albanian dove, her nick is KoSoVaAnGeL:

http://www.youtube.com/user/KoSoVaAnGeL

"In 1998 we had alot of support from USA and NATO in getting out of Serbia. Of course this was never public but in the background western leaders told us to do our best to provocate a conflict vs the Serbs. The western leaders knew how evil Serbs will act and just over a year in war they stopped Serbia by bombing it for 78 days."

Read it please, read it.

True, at the end the peaceful dove-girl writes:

"May God help the good people from not getting hurt from the bad people but also may God help the bad people to become good one."

How nice.

But if Serbs believe such messages - they are naive.

The true message from this lady is somewhere else on youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=vtY73Y5w890

"y00 Croatian friend.

Sieg Heil to you too from Kosovo."

Yes, "Sieg Heil" from Kosovo, posted on some SS-related crap. And we have few people more out there who approve it.

I would like to hear from NORMAL Albanians here like Gustave, Village-Bey and others, how to interpret all this, in particular the 1998 story she wrote and the "Sieg Heil". Totally confused person? She is obviously from a good family, they can afford computers and fast internet. And she did not find it out by herself that 1998 story - sure, someone told it to her and was proud about it.

American Eagle

pre 14 godina

Kosovo Angel is nothing more than propoganda. I also hate to see the use of my flag or the name of my country in this kind of propoganda. Albanians have no right to claim our heritage or background. They are not Americans and never will be.

Ron

pre 14 godina

# If you don't vote, don't even think you have the right to complain.
(RKS, 12 April 2010 22:11)

Indeed, all in Kosovo should take part in the national Serbian elections. As Kosovo is a Serbian province!

American Eagle

pre 14 godina

The adage that if don't vote, you can't complain only applied to legitimate governments with an established democracy, like in the United States. Elsewhere, political parties will boycott elections, as in tolitarian regimes, to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the government. That is what the Serbian population is doing in Istok. It is their right and they can complain because the international community tries to force a government they do not accept onto them.

A question for the Albanians here. Istok is the Serbian word for East. Does Istog mean something in Albanian or is just a mispronunciation of Istok?

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"The border between former Yugoslavia and Albania was such guarded that even a fly would not pass without being noticed from the armed forces in Yugoslavia and Albania"
Simpatiku

If I got a penny for everytime an albanian claimed this I would be a very rich man. There is no border that is 100 percent solid. The border between Serbia and Albania is mountenous and its impossible to cover every inch. I remember watching albanians entering Kosovo from Albania in the 80s. They had come over the mountains for a better life in Yugoslavia. It is a fact and you know it. However, it goes against the albanian cause which is why you want to make it look like you are the indigenous people of Kosovo while the fact is that this is nothing less then theft of Serbian land by immigrant albanians.

The reason Serbs were leaving Kosovo was and still is due to albanian harrassment of Serbs. I first heard of this in the 80s when albanians attacked priests and ordinary people. Not always physically but often with words of intimidation. The albanian plan in Kosovo has been to rid Kosovo of anything Serbs to claim that territory for themselves. WW2 crimes against Serbs by nazi albanians and the 2004 riots are proof of that.

LMN II, USA

pre 14 godina

Flooding someone elses territory and claim it for your own doesn´t always improve your life, not even with a "super power" backing you.


Indeed, a new low point in my country's history. While my country has done some very good things throughout history, we have also done some bad and dumb things as well. Helping Albanians steal Kosovo is both, bad and dumb!!!

Radoslav

pre 14 godina

"The reason Serbs were leaving Kosovo was and still is due to albanian harrassment of Serbs."

As evidenced by articles such as those of the New York Times in the 70's and 80's. This, plus Tito's plans to reduce the number of Serbs in Kosovo by forcibly removing them, hence an increase (by a vast amount) of Albanians in souther Serbia and a huge reduction in Serbs in the same region.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Ataman,

I was in Kosovo, and I was also in a bus Gjakova - Skopje on the day of the Racak massacre --- 45 minutes after the massacre happened.

I'm glad to see you are using youtube as a reliable source.

Please don't try to enlighten us about a country and/or war that you yourself were 5,000 - 10,000 km away.
(RKS, 13 April 2010 02:38)

I do not enlighten, I ask. Youtube is what it is and home to pretty sick things. This one is sicker than the average "your momma" Serbian-Albanian quarrel I am used to and I an laughing at. Besides it looks to reveal that the West was active at destroying the YU and the ones who were involved do not object "Sieg Heil".

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Albanian camp here - I did see the video but didn't see the text you quoted.
(baker, 13 April 2010 02:28)

There it is, highlighted in grey:

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2429/screenshot20100413at139.png

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In any case: Damn! That little girl let our national secret out. lol. We thought it was in safe hands.
(baker, 13 April 2010 02:28)

Not sure, she is a girl tough. If she is - she is probably reciting what her older brothers or/and parents said. She was probably a child during conflict and I don't think she did see any "normal" Serb ever, probably only few (para)militaries. Where the hate from? Is it normal? Where the "Sieg Heil" is from? Is it normal?

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The thing is this is a much debated and has been thrown around by the Serb camp. It was not an instruction to provoke Serbia, it was rather an encouragement to play the final move that the Albanians were left with - taking up arms. That's it!
(baker, 13 April 2010 02:28)

So... was that a normal than? "Encouragement" from the outside to revolt? You said it.

sj

pre 14 godina

(erjon, 12 April 2010 19:51)


My father was a border guard in Kosovo and Macedonia for nearly 5 years from 1948. At the age of 82 he still carries a bullet in his back when he was shot by Albanian border guards in 1949 while on the Yugoslav side of the border.

During that time he witnessed many thousands of Albanians crossing over from Albania and the Tito regime providing them with housing and other forms of financial assistance as part of a resettlement program. From 1945 to 1965 well over 800,000 Albanians moved to Kosovo; while it is true that some did not stay but left for other countries, the majority remained in there. While it is also true that Albanians were living in Kosovo prior to 1945, but not in the current numbers.

My father interviewed many of these Albanian refugees and all claimed that they had left Albania because it was very hard to make a living and sought better conditions. Serbs began leaving Kosovo in the early late 1950s to get an education and jobs because that region was and still is primarily agricultural, but not in large numbers. Later it was because of the Albanians – look at how many of your fellow Muslims remained after 1999; you guys threw them all out. You people don’t even tolerate your own religious kind let alone Serbs.

If you claim that Kosovo is Albanian why are there no archeologically remains to confirm these claims? Where are the ruins going back to the early 1200s or BCE; why is there absolutely nothing connecting the Albanians to this region. Yes there are structures built by the Ottomans during their time in that region, but not a scrap of proof of this great Albanian culture.