Tadić: War not threatening Bosnia

Wow Lenard. You are very incoherent. I admire Tadic for his thought process, which is definitely more forward thinking than nationalistic. He should really be considered for Time Magazine's Person of the Year or even the Peace Prize after the Kosovo dust settles. Tadic adds more stability to the region than any other politician in the Balkans and shows that Serbia is truly needed if there is to be any peace in the Balkans.

"The reality in Kosovo/a is a reality created by the policy followed by Serbia in Kosovo and more precisely by Slobodan Milosevic."
EA

So, the dictator Milosevic, who stayed in power through intimidation and violence, is guilty of loosing Kosovo? Why should the Serbian people pay for what this dictator did and did not do? Kosovo has belonged to the Serbs for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. During a short periot of war the albanians and the west are trying to justify that Serbia has lost Kosovo because of that war. Saddam Hussein treated the kurds and the shia muslims in the most brutal ways. Did that mean that Irak has lost the south and the north parts of the country to the shia and the kurds? No! Why not? Saddam was much worse then Milosevic. Instead, the US is trying to keep Irak together while trying to split Serbia. The west, together with their albanian counterparts, are just the biggest hypocrites I have ever witnessed.

"... Serbia also has its red lines and one of them is related to Kosovo and Metohija. I said that Serbia neither recognizes Kosovo and Metohija (as independent) now, nor will it ever do that, and that we are devoted to the idea of continued talks about Kosovo and Metohija, to find a compromise solution which does not imply that one side is the winner and the other the loser,” he explained.

With due respect for Tadic, he is missing two fundamental points.

Firstly Serbia is NOT in a position to draw (red) lines when it comes to Kosovo/a. That is the REALITY.

Secondly, Serbia biggest historical mistake is that they have seen Kosovo/a as an issue which is either is won or it is lost. In other words black or white.

If fact Kosovo issue is about the best for stability in the region, in other words is not about "winners" and "losers". The reality in Kosovo/a is a reality created by the policy followed by Serbia in Kosovo and more precisely by Slobodan Milosevic.

The problems should be identified through a rational and democratic dialog of the three peoples,” Tadić told. Dodik what do you think separation! How about this Dodik Separation! What do you think will be good separation! What do you think of unity of Bosnia i Herzegovina republic Seperation! Dont be bashful let us know SEPARATION! Separation! separation! Now seriously Dodik what do you think bla bla.... Seperation! For the million dinar prize question what would you be interested in talking about Dodik and participating in also agreeing with your Bosnia i Herzegovina victimized neighbours at the hands of the Serbs? “As for Bosnia-Herzegovina, I said that Serbia does not support any partition of that country, I think that it would jeopardize regional stability. Serbia remains strongly devoted to the Dayton Accords, which means that everything that the three peoples and the two entities agree on is acceptable for Serbia too, but solutions cannot be imposed," the president pointed out. As usual buying time for the greater Serbia project what a farce Tadić you are also.

Rome wasn't build in a day, yeah we all know that... There will be no greater Serbia... That just sounds like you are a undedicated nationalist. You do realise, how evil and demeaning that sounds for the people who live on the lands which should come under "Greater Serbia". Why should the Croats be scared, they could defeat anyone. They are by far, the strongest and most admired people in the Balkans. Bosnians would also be afraid, but it won't happen. Serbia is staying Serbia, Croatia is remaining Croatia and Bosnia will always be Bosnia.

But wait Mr. Tadic, Stipe Mesic was pretty adamant about an army of "Chenikoids" ready to wreak havoc on the entire region!

"Firstly Serbia is NOT in a position to draw (red) lines when it comes to Kosovo/a. That is the REALITY." (EA)

-- Sure they did. They drew a definitive line at the Ibar. No one's crossing it. They also drew a noticeable line around Gracanica. Pristina has nothing to do with it. Belgrade's been drawing a number of lines the rest of the region is begrudgingly having to drive around.

"Secondly [...] Kosovo issue is about the best for stability in the region, in other words is not about "winners" and "losers". The reality in Kosovo/a is a reality created by the policy followed by Serbia in Kosovo and more precisely by Slobodan Milosevic."

-- Now here I might be able to meet you on, though for different reasons. I do agree it is foolish to view Kosovo as all or nothing, and here is where I depart from official rhetoric in Belgrade. But if you think this EA, you also need to realize the same extreme thinking is practiced in Pristina too where Thaci et al continue to make impotent references to the Serb sectors as vital to Kosovo's "stability"

"Stability for the region" as you correctly imply, involves a middle way between the extremities of Belgrade and Pristina, which is why I've been constantly advocating a complete cantonization of the region under international administration. That's the only way for the entire entity to move forward.

American Eagle Sure that is plausible President Boris Tadić should really be considered for Time Magazine's Person of the Year or even the Peace Prize. When US President Obama can get a noble peace prize for doing nothing. Even sending more young naive troops to Afghanistan to be canon folder for road side bombs. Sure President Boris Tadić could be a shoo in with that kind of competition why not. On the Time magazine person of the year yes I can see it Boris Tadić together with the American Eagle on the front cover each one giving a peace sign behind each others heads. My so interesting Tadic adds more stability to the region than any other politician in the Balkans and shows that Serbia is truly needed if there is to be any peace in the Balkans. Yes under that slogan Serbs and Serbia waged a war on their unarmed neighbours. The famous slogan they coined went like this "WAGE WAR FOR PEACE" that definitely is a oxymoron. It sounds like the US operates under the same oxymoron slogans.

"I said that Serbia neither recognizes Kosovo and Metohija (as independent) now, nor will it ever do that, and that we are devoted to the idea of continued talks about Kosovo and Metohija, to find a compromise solution which does not imply that one side is the winner and the other the loser,” he explained. "

Serbia lost the war and with that Kosova which was annexed by Serbia when it won the war. So if Serbia got Kosova by war, it should accept that it lost it by war. Serbia has a big L on the forehead, like it or not. You lost the war and therefore you lost Kosova.

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If fact Kosovo issue is about the best for stability in the region, in other words is not about "winners" and "losers". The reality in Kosovo/a is a reality created by the policy followed by Serbia in Kosovo and more precisely by Slobodan Milosevic.
(EA, 8 April 2010 21:40)


With all due respect Serbia already has drawn the red line by creating the biggest prison camp in the world. No jobs, no prospects of bringing industry to Kosovo, no nothing and the only way out is to buy Serbian passports at 3000 Euros a pop.

It is amazing that these Albanians use words like NO or NEVER, but if that’s the case why haven’t all of the countries that recognise Kosovo’s “independence” established embassies in Pristina??? Why doesn’t the US change the current status which has been the same for the last 11 years????? Why doesn’t the US pour millions into Kosovo like Yugoslavia did over a period of 60 years, Mmmm????


(Lenard, 8 April 2010 20:22)

Lenny you have to learn patience. You are a tad incoherent here, but Rome was not built in a day so a Greater Serbia is the same. It will happen and I know that Croats are terrified that this will occur. The US is starting its slow and protracted reversal from the world stage – two lost wars with nothing to show for them then this nuclear arms reduction treaty, then there will be budget cuts and so it will go on.

Tadic has read the mood of the EU and the USA, they now see the inherent absurdities and systemic limitations of Dayton and know that its use-by date is fast drawing near and with that will come a re-organization of BiH constitution and political framework. Tadic by beating the Dayton drum hopes to instill life into the accord. Will he be so open and supportive of a unified BiH post Dayton? Ironically the Srebrenica resolution may be the key that will unlock the anomaly, that is RS.

my dear k-albanian "Mike", if someone is having a big L on his forehead, then I would say it´s the K-albanians who are constantly being duped, and they are being duped so totally, that they aren´t even realizing it! they even see themselves as winners! =)

well, time will teach you something different.

until that moment comes, you are free to believe that you are a winner... =)

Let us all hope war doesn't threaten Bosnia again... it is a holy land and people need to understand this. Blood has been shed specifically for this reason. All holy lands around the world are in deep turmoil; Jerusalem, Babylon (iraq), most of Africa (where MAN was originated)... devastation is created periodically to cause a disturbance, and as a species we must condemm all this.

"Greater Serbia". Why should the Croats be scared, they could defeat anyone. They are by far, the strongest and most admired people in the Balkans."
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Thanks for the laugh Sheman.
Is this why they needed Clinton to execute Opration Storm?

The problems should be identified through a rational and democratic dialog of the three peoples,” Tadić told. Dodik what do you think separation! How about this Dodik Separation! What do you think will be good separation! What do you think of unity of Bosnia i Herzegovina republic Seperation! Dont be bashful let us know SEPARATION! Separation! separation! Now seriously Dodik what do you think bla bla.... Seperation! For the million dinar prize question what would you be interested in talking about Dodik and participating in also agreeing with your Bosnia i Herzegovina victimized neighbours at the hands of the Serbs? “As for Bosnia-Herzegovina, I said that Serbia does not support any partition of that country, I think that it would jeopardize regional stability. Serbia remains strongly devoted to the Dayton Accords, which means that everything that the three peoples and the two entities agree on is acceptable for Serbia too, but solutions cannot be imposed," the president pointed out. As usual buying time for the greater Serbia project what a farce Tadić you are also.

"... Serbia also has its red lines and one of them is related to Kosovo and Metohija. I said that Serbia neither recognizes Kosovo and Metohija (as independent) now, nor will it ever do that, and that we are devoted to the idea of continued talks about Kosovo and Metohija, to find a compromise solution which does not imply that one side is the winner and the other the loser,” he explained.

With due respect for Tadic, he is missing two fundamental points.

Firstly Serbia is NOT in a position to draw (red) lines when it comes to Kosovo/a. That is the REALITY.

Secondly, Serbia biggest historical mistake is that they have seen Kosovo/a as an issue which is either is won or it is lost. In other words black or white.

If fact Kosovo issue is about the best for stability in the region, in other words is not about "winners" and "losers". The reality in Kosovo/a is a reality created by the policy followed by Serbia in Kosovo and more precisely by Slobodan Milosevic.

"The reality in Kosovo/a is a reality created by the policy followed by Serbia in Kosovo and more precisely by Slobodan Milosevic."
EA

So, the dictator Milosevic, who stayed in power through intimidation and violence, is guilty of loosing Kosovo? Why should the Serbian people pay for what this dictator did and did not do? Kosovo has belonged to the Serbs for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. During a short periot of war the albanians and the west are trying to justify that Serbia has lost Kosovo because of that war. Saddam Hussein treated the kurds and the shia muslims in the most brutal ways. Did that mean that Irak has lost the south and the north parts of the country to the shia and the kurds? No! Why not? Saddam was much worse then Milosevic. Instead, the US is trying to keep Irak together while trying to split Serbia. The west, together with their albanian counterparts, are just the biggest hypocrites I have ever witnessed.

American Eagle Sure that is plausible President Boris Tadić should really be considered for Time Magazine's Person of the Year or even the Peace Prize. When US President Obama can get a noble peace prize for doing nothing. Even sending more young naive troops to Afghanistan to be canon folder for road side bombs. Sure President Boris Tadić could be a shoo in with that kind of competition why not. On the Time magazine person of the year yes I can see it Boris Tadić together with the American Eagle on the front cover each one giving a peace sign behind each others heads. My so interesting Tadic adds more stability to the region than any other politician in the Balkans and shows that Serbia is truly needed if there is to be any peace in the Balkans. Yes under that slogan Serbs and Serbia waged a war on their unarmed neighbours. The famous slogan they coined went like this "WAGE WAR FOR PEACE" that definitely is a oxymoron. It sounds like the US operates under the same oxymoron slogans.

"I said that Serbia neither recognizes Kosovo and Metohija (as independent) now, nor will it ever do that, and that we are devoted to the idea of continued talks about Kosovo and Metohija, to find a compromise solution which does not imply that one side is the winner and the other the loser,” he explained. "

Serbia lost the war and with that Kosova which was annexed by Serbia when it won the war. So if Serbia got Kosova by war, it should accept that it lost it by war. Serbia has a big L on the forehead, like it or not. You lost the war and therefore you lost Kosova.

But wait Mr. Tadic, Stipe Mesic was pretty adamant about an army of "Chenikoids" ready to wreak havoc on the entire region!

"Firstly Serbia is NOT in a position to draw (red) lines when it comes to Kosovo/a. That is the REALITY." (EA)

-- Sure they did. They drew a definitive line at the Ibar. No one's crossing it. They also drew a noticeable line around Gracanica. Pristina has nothing to do with it. Belgrade's been drawing a number of lines the rest of the region is begrudgingly having to drive around.

"Secondly [...] Kosovo issue is about the best for stability in the region, in other words is not about "winners" and "losers". The reality in Kosovo/a is a reality created by the policy followed by Serbia in Kosovo and more precisely by Slobodan Milosevic."

-- Now here I might be able to meet you on, though for different reasons. I do agree it is foolish to view Kosovo as all or nothing, and here is where I depart from official rhetoric in Belgrade. But if you think this EA, you also need to realize the same extreme thinking is practiced in Pristina too where Thaci et al continue to make impotent references to the Serb sectors as vital to Kosovo's "stability"

"Stability for the region" as you correctly imply, involves a middle way between the extremities of Belgrade and Pristina, which is why I've been constantly advocating a complete cantonization of the region under international administration. That's the only way for the entire entity to move forward.

Wow Lenard. You are very incoherent. I admire Tadic for his thought process, which is definitely more forward thinking than nationalistic. He should really be considered for Time Magazine's Person of the Year or even the Peace Prize after the Kosovo dust settles. Tadic adds more stability to the region than any other politician in the Balkans and shows that Serbia is truly needed if there is to be any peace in the Balkans.

If fact Kosovo issue is about the best for stability in the region, in other words is not about "winners" and "losers". The reality in Kosovo/a is a reality created by the policy followed by Serbia in Kosovo and more precisely by Slobodan Milosevic.
(EA, 8 April 2010 21:40)


With all due respect Serbia already has drawn the red line by creating the biggest prison camp in the world. No jobs, no prospects of bringing industry to Kosovo, no nothing and the only way out is to buy Serbian passports at 3000 Euros a pop.

It is amazing that these Albanians use words like NO or NEVER, but if that’s the case why haven’t all of the countries that recognise Kosovo’s “independence” established embassies in Pristina??? Why doesn’t the US change the current status which has been the same for the last 11 years????? Why doesn’t the US pour millions into Kosovo like Yugoslavia did over a period of 60 years, Mmmm????


(Lenard, 8 April 2010 20:22)

Lenny you have to learn patience. You are a tad incoherent here, but Rome was not built in a day so a Greater Serbia is the same. It will happen and I know that Croats are terrified that this will occur. The US is starting its slow and protracted reversal from the world stage – two lost wars with nothing to show for them then this nuclear arms reduction treaty, then there will be budget cuts and so it will go on.

Rome wasn't build in a day, yeah we all know that... There will be no greater Serbia... That just sounds like you are a undedicated nationalist. You do realise, how evil and demeaning that sounds for the people who live on the lands which should come under "Greater Serbia". Why should the Croats be scared, they could defeat anyone. They are by far, the strongest and most admired people in the Balkans. Bosnians would also be afraid, but it won't happen. Serbia is staying Serbia, Croatia is remaining Croatia and Bosnia will always be Bosnia.

my dear k-albanian "Mike", if someone is having a big L on his forehead, then I would say it´s the K-albanians who are constantly being duped, and they are being duped so totally, that they aren´t even realizing it! they even see themselves as winners! =)

well, time will teach you something different.

until that moment comes, you are free to believe that you are a winner... =)

"Greater Serbia". Why should the Croats be scared, they could defeat anyone. They are by far, the strongest and most admired people in the Balkans."
==============

Thanks for the laugh Sheman.
Is this why they needed Clinton to execute Opration Storm?

Dear "Mike". Please pick another username. This one has been used by me here for years and I have no intention of changing that.

Thank you.

We second our "original Mike's" request.

Since we do not request registration for the comments section, this would help all of us save time and avoid confusion.

Regards,


B92

Let us all hope war doesn't threaten Bosnia again... it is a holy land and people need to understand this. Blood has been shed specifically for this reason. All holy lands around the world are in deep turmoil; Jerusalem, Babylon (iraq), most of Africa (where MAN was originated)... devastation is created periodically to cause a disturbance, and as a species we must condemm all this.

Tadic has read the mood of the EU and the USA, they now see the inherent absurdities and systemic limitations of Dayton and know that its use-by date is fast drawing near and with that will come a re-organization of BiH constitution and political framework. Tadic by beating the Dayton drum hopes to instill life into the accord. Will he be so open and supportive of a unified BiH post Dayton? Ironically the Srebrenica resolution may be the key that will unlock the anomaly, that is RS.