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Friday, 26.03.2010.

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Anniversary of Suva Reka crime

Today marks the 11th anniversary of the murder of 50 ethic Albanian civilians in Suva Reka, in Kosovo.

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Dim Tuc

pre 14 godina

“As always, I condemn this crime and those who committed it. Please try to remember that the people who committed this terrible act do not represent all Serbians.
(Matthew, 26 March 2010 16:53)”

Of course they do not represent all Serbs, and no-one should entertain such racist thoughts. There were Serbs right throughout the Balkan wars, just as there were Croats etc, and this applies to most cases of predatory regimes launching unjustified wars. I salute all the Serbs who stood up against these kinds of actions.

The problem however is different. The problem is that not enough Serbs are willing to recognize that this action, and countless others like it, WERE the ground war in 1999. Whatever my support for the struggle of the Kosovar Albanians for self-determination – which long predates 1999 – I never supported NATO’s war on Serb civilians, and express my solidarity with the victims. However, there was nothing “patriotic” about Serbia’s war on the ground while NATO waged an almost completely separate war from the air (which hit a total of 13 Serbian tanks in 78 days, most in the last 2 weeks). Rather, the ground war was a most extraordinary act of opportunism by the regime of Milosevic/Seselj (just as NATO’s war itself was): it used the cover of the bombing to put in practice a program of trying to forcibly de-Albanise Kosovoa by expelling as large a proportion of the Albanian population as possible, something they could not get away with before March 1999, however repressive an oppressive the regime was. Thus the Suva Reka crime was not an aberration during a just defensive war, but a typical act of the war. The only defensive war would have been to try to shoot NATO planes from the sky; the fact that this was barely possible (due to the great solidarity of your Russian “allies” I guess) in no way justifies taking it out on someone else.

The last decade of brutal repression and the failure of Rugova’s peaceful struggle certainly justified the Albanians ultimate resort to armed struggle, as elsewhere in the world, whatever I may think of the KLA leadership and many of its actions. Having said that, few could deny that at the legal level, it was “legitimate” for the Serbian armed forces to fight them; that would be doing what any army of any country would be bound to do, till the political leaders realized the futility of fighting a whole people. But the problem is that the regime’s war was not simply a fight against the KLA, and from March 1999 was not even mostly such a fight, but rather a war with the aim of driving the Albanian population out of Kosova, something which could not be done without resort to such massive atrocities against the civilian population.

doodah

pre 14 godina

The war never makes people better but worse.
Every war got its own criminals BETWEEN EVERY PART.
We all know that many Serbian committed terrible crimes, but we also know that the k-albs did the same.
Does anyone remember the case of the "yellow house"?
It was maybe the worse I have ever heard about: even Nazis didn't the same to Jews.
(Luca, 26 March 2010 16:52)
But Luca you are comparing verified atrocities with propaganda pieces that have never even had any reasonable evidence presented other than folklore.

lids

pre 14 godina

It was a war-19 nations against one..And not once did we see Serbian soldier holding severed head of albanian-but we did see albanians do it, "with smile"..
Or what to say about organ snatchers..

svojgazda

pre 14 godina

My condolences to the Berisha family for this horrible crime. This had nothing to do with war. May all war criminals wind up behind bars where they belong. It is important that every crime be investigated, and dealt with, including the allegations against the KLA for kidnapping and organ harvesting of civilians, so that reconciliation can take place. RIP to all innocent victims of the brutal wars that took place in the Balkans. Unfortunately, the world powers that the most instrumental in these events will walk away free and not held to any accountability. P

Matthew

pre 14 godina

As always, I condemn this crime and those who committed it. Please try to remember that the people who committed this terrible act do not represent all Serbians.

Luca

pre 14 godina

The war never makes people better but worse.
Every war got its own criminals BETWEEN EVERY PART.
We all know that many Serbian committed terrible crimes, but we also know that the k-albs did the same.
Does anyone remember the case of the "yellow house"?
It was maybe the worse I have ever heard about: even Nazis didn't the same to Jews.

Biljana

pre 14 godina

Interface,

I don’t see how did I equalize perpetrators and victims?
In my eyes crime is crime and believe that everyone committing a crime should be brought before the court
and face the justice.
Crime is crime who ever commit it.
I have no problem to condemn the crime, however it seems that you have that problem.

My comment was sincere from the first till the last word.
It’s just enough to close the eyes and imagine the horror that these people were going trough.
Crimes against children are the worst ones., I agree completely.
But so is against any unarmed person who in no way could harm you.

Nevertheless, you tried to spin my words and deny any crimes committed by the other side.
Do you really believe that Albanians did not commit crime against Serbian children?
Do you really believe that Albanians have done nothing wrong against women and elderly?
Do you rally believe that Albanians have done nothing wrong?
Do you really believe that murderers amongst your kind should not be brought to justice?.

Well, If you really think like that then that is you problem, not mine. If you glorify your criminals and believe they have done nothing wrong as long as they killed Serbs, then you are no better than them, you too could kill the one year old child just for being Serb.

As I said, I am truly sorry that my people,members of police force have done such crime in my name and the name of other honest Serbs.

I'd like to see all the brutal killers behind the bars for life, be they Serbs or Albanians, because all the innocent victims deserve justice.

I'm sorry that you do not share my opinion. However that is my opinion and for that I am not going to apologize.

Unfortunately my apology cannot return the victims and cannot relief the pain of the victims’ families and closed ones. I am aware of that. And unfortunately I am in position to help with the return of the bodies since I know no one who could help with this issue.

Interface

pre 14 godina

Biljana, the first half of your comment sounds sincerely but later you try to equality perpertrator and victim.
What do you think that all crimes are the same!?
In my eyes not if you kill the children of 1 year.
Please help if u can to return the dead bodies of over 700 Albanians burried in mass graves in Serbia.
Greetings

Bekim

pre 14 godina

Their death shouldn't be a paragraph in a Serb news site; it robs the victims of their souls. There must be justice, the blind one with a huge sword.

Biljana

pre 14 godina

I apologize to our fellow citizens of Albanian nationality for this terrible crime and every crime committed
against them by the Serbs.
I condemn and truly regret the fact that some members of Serbian police forces could have done such thing.
I am glad that perpetrators were prosecuted and charged .
Hopefully, every criminal who committed any similar crime or was involved in the crime against humanity will end up behind the bars for very long time.

However, I also hope that K-Albanians understand the fact that they too have to prosecute their criminals who committed crimes against the Serbs. .

May the victims rest in peace.

I am truly sorry.

Biljana

pre 14 godina

I apologize to our fellow citizens of Albanian nationality for this terrible crime and every crime committed
against them by the Serbs.
I condemn and truly regret the fact that some members of Serbian police forces could have done such thing.
I am glad that perpetrators were prosecuted and charged .
Hopefully, every criminal who committed any similar crime or was involved in the crime against humanity will end up behind the bars for very long time.

However, I also hope that K-Albanians understand the fact that they too have to prosecute their criminals who committed crimes against the Serbs. .

May the victims rest in peace.

I am truly sorry.

Bekim

pre 14 godina

Their death shouldn't be a paragraph in a Serb news site; it robs the victims of their souls. There must be justice, the blind one with a huge sword.

Interface

pre 14 godina

Biljana, the first half of your comment sounds sincerely but later you try to equality perpertrator and victim.
What do you think that all crimes are the same!?
In my eyes not if you kill the children of 1 year.
Please help if u can to return the dead bodies of over 700 Albanians burried in mass graves in Serbia.
Greetings

doodah

pre 14 godina

The war never makes people better but worse.
Every war got its own criminals BETWEEN EVERY PART.
We all know that many Serbian committed terrible crimes, but we also know that the k-albs did the same.
Does anyone remember the case of the "yellow house"?
It was maybe the worse I have ever heard about: even Nazis didn't the same to Jews.
(Luca, 26 March 2010 16:52)
But Luca you are comparing verified atrocities with propaganda pieces that have never even had any reasonable evidence presented other than folklore.

svojgazda

pre 14 godina

My condolences to the Berisha family for this horrible crime. This had nothing to do with war. May all war criminals wind up behind bars where they belong. It is important that every crime be investigated, and dealt with, including the allegations against the KLA for kidnapping and organ harvesting of civilians, so that reconciliation can take place. RIP to all innocent victims of the brutal wars that took place in the Balkans. Unfortunately, the world powers that the most instrumental in these events will walk away free and not held to any accountability. P

Biljana

pre 14 godina

Interface,

I don’t see how did I equalize perpetrators and victims?
In my eyes crime is crime and believe that everyone committing a crime should be brought before the court
and face the justice.
Crime is crime who ever commit it.
I have no problem to condemn the crime, however it seems that you have that problem.

My comment was sincere from the first till the last word.
It’s just enough to close the eyes and imagine the horror that these people were going trough.
Crimes against children are the worst ones., I agree completely.
But so is against any unarmed person who in no way could harm you.

Nevertheless, you tried to spin my words and deny any crimes committed by the other side.
Do you really believe that Albanians did not commit crime against Serbian children?
Do you really believe that Albanians have done nothing wrong against women and elderly?
Do you rally believe that Albanians have done nothing wrong?
Do you really believe that murderers amongst your kind should not be brought to justice?.

Well, If you really think like that then that is you problem, not mine. If you glorify your criminals and believe they have done nothing wrong as long as they killed Serbs, then you are no better than them, you too could kill the one year old child just for being Serb.

As I said, I am truly sorry that my people,members of police force have done such crime in my name and the name of other honest Serbs.

I'd like to see all the brutal killers behind the bars for life, be they Serbs or Albanians, because all the innocent victims deserve justice.

I'm sorry that you do not share my opinion. However that is my opinion and for that I am not going to apologize.

Unfortunately my apology cannot return the victims and cannot relief the pain of the victims’ families and closed ones. I am aware of that. And unfortunately I am in position to help with the return of the bodies since I know no one who could help with this issue.

Matthew

pre 14 godina

As always, I condemn this crime and those who committed it. Please try to remember that the people who committed this terrible act do not represent all Serbians.

lids

pre 14 godina

It was a war-19 nations against one..And not once did we see Serbian soldier holding severed head of albanian-but we did see albanians do it, "with smile"..
Or what to say about organ snatchers..

Luca

pre 14 godina

The war never makes people better but worse.
Every war got its own criminals BETWEEN EVERY PART.
We all know that many Serbian committed terrible crimes, but we also know that the k-albs did the same.
Does anyone remember the case of the "yellow house"?
It was maybe the worse I have ever heard about: even Nazis didn't the same to Jews.

Dim Tuc

pre 14 godina

“As always, I condemn this crime and those who committed it. Please try to remember that the people who committed this terrible act do not represent all Serbians.
(Matthew, 26 March 2010 16:53)”

Of course they do not represent all Serbs, and no-one should entertain such racist thoughts. There were Serbs right throughout the Balkan wars, just as there were Croats etc, and this applies to most cases of predatory regimes launching unjustified wars. I salute all the Serbs who stood up against these kinds of actions.

The problem however is different. The problem is that not enough Serbs are willing to recognize that this action, and countless others like it, WERE the ground war in 1999. Whatever my support for the struggle of the Kosovar Albanians for self-determination – which long predates 1999 – I never supported NATO’s war on Serb civilians, and express my solidarity with the victims. However, there was nothing “patriotic” about Serbia’s war on the ground while NATO waged an almost completely separate war from the air (which hit a total of 13 Serbian tanks in 78 days, most in the last 2 weeks). Rather, the ground war was a most extraordinary act of opportunism by the regime of Milosevic/Seselj (just as NATO’s war itself was): it used the cover of the bombing to put in practice a program of trying to forcibly de-Albanise Kosovoa by expelling as large a proportion of the Albanian population as possible, something they could not get away with before March 1999, however repressive an oppressive the regime was. Thus the Suva Reka crime was not an aberration during a just defensive war, but a typical act of the war. The only defensive war would have been to try to shoot NATO planes from the sky; the fact that this was barely possible (due to the great solidarity of your Russian “allies” I guess) in no way justifies taking it out on someone else.

The last decade of brutal repression and the failure of Rugova’s peaceful struggle certainly justified the Albanians ultimate resort to armed struggle, as elsewhere in the world, whatever I may think of the KLA leadership and many of its actions. Having said that, few could deny that at the legal level, it was “legitimate” for the Serbian armed forces to fight them; that would be doing what any army of any country would be bound to do, till the political leaders realized the futility of fighting a whole people. But the problem is that the regime’s war was not simply a fight against the KLA, and from March 1999 was not even mostly such a fight, but rather a war with the aim of driving the Albanian population out of Kosova, something which could not be done without resort to such massive atrocities against the civilian population.

Luca

pre 14 godina

The war never makes people better but worse.
Every war got its own criminals BETWEEN EVERY PART.
We all know that many Serbian committed terrible crimes, but we also know that the k-albs did the same.
Does anyone remember the case of the "yellow house"?
It was maybe the worse I have ever heard about: even Nazis didn't the same to Jews.

lids

pre 14 godina

It was a war-19 nations against one..And not once did we see Serbian soldier holding severed head of albanian-but we did see albanians do it, "with smile"..
Or what to say about organ snatchers..

Interface

pre 14 godina

Biljana, the first half of your comment sounds sincerely but later you try to equality perpertrator and victim.
What do you think that all crimes are the same!?
In my eyes not if you kill the children of 1 year.
Please help if u can to return the dead bodies of over 700 Albanians burried in mass graves in Serbia.
Greetings

svojgazda

pre 14 godina

My condolences to the Berisha family for this horrible crime. This had nothing to do with war. May all war criminals wind up behind bars where they belong. It is important that every crime be investigated, and dealt with, including the allegations against the KLA for kidnapping and organ harvesting of civilians, so that reconciliation can take place. RIP to all innocent victims of the brutal wars that took place in the Balkans. Unfortunately, the world powers that the most instrumental in these events will walk away free and not held to any accountability. P

Biljana

pre 14 godina

I apologize to our fellow citizens of Albanian nationality for this terrible crime and every crime committed
against them by the Serbs.
I condemn and truly regret the fact that some members of Serbian police forces could have done such thing.
I am glad that perpetrators were prosecuted and charged .
Hopefully, every criminal who committed any similar crime or was involved in the crime against humanity will end up behind the bars for very long time.

However, I also hope that K-Albanians understand the fact that they too have to prosecute their criminals who committed crimes against the Serbs. .

May the victims rest in peace.

I am truly sorry.

Bekim

pre 14 godina

Their death shouldn't be a paragraph in a Serb news site; it robs the victims of their souls. There must be justice, the blind one with a huge sword.

Matthew

pre 14 godina

As always, I condemn this crime and those who committed it. Please try to remember that the people who committed this terrible act do not represent all Serbians.

doodah

pre 14 godina

The war never makes people better but worse.
Every war got its own criminals BETWEEN EVERY PART.
We all know that many Serbian committed terrible crimes, but we also know that the k-albs did the same.
Does anyone remember the case of the "yellow house"?
It was maybe the worse I have ever heard about: even Nazis didn't the same to Jews.
(Luca, 26 March 2010 16:52)
But Luca you are comparing verified atrocities with propaganda pieces that have never even had any reasonable evidence presented other than folklore.

Biljana

pre 14 godina

Interface,

I don’t see how did I equalize perpetrators and victims?
In my eyes crime is crime and believe that everyone committing a crime should be brought before the court
and face the justice.
Crime is crime who ever commit it.
I have no problem to condemn the crime, however it seems that you have that problem.

My comment was sincere from the first till the last word.
It’s just enough to close the eyes and imagine the horror that these people were going trough.
Crimes against children are the worst ones., I agree completely.
But so is against any unarmed person who in no way could harm you.

Nevertheless, you tried to spin my words and deny any crimes committed by the other side.
Do you really believe that Albanians did not commit crime against Serbian children?
Do you really believe that Albanians have done nothing wrong against women and elderly?
Do you rally believe that Albanians have done nothing wrong?
Do you really believe that murderers amongst your kind should not be brought to justice?.

Well, If you really think like that then that is you problem, not mine. If you glorify your criminals and believe they have done nothing wrong as long as they killed Serbs, then you are no better than them, you too could kill the one year old child just for being Serb.

As I said, I am truly sorry that my people,members of police force have done such crime in my name and the name of other honest Serbs.

I'd like to see all the brutal killers behind the bars for life, be they Serbs or Albanians, because all the innocent victims deserve justice.

I'm sorry that you do not share my opinion. However that is my opinion and for that I am not going to apologize.

Unfortunately my apology cannot return the victims and cannot relief the pain of the victims’ families and closed ones. I am aware of that. And unfortunately I am in position to help with the return of the bodies since I know no one who could help with this issue.

Dim Tuc

pre 14 godina

“As always, I condemn this crime and those who committed it. Please try to remember that the people who committed this terrible act do not represent all Serbians.
(Matthew, 26 March 2010 16:53)”

Of course they do not represent all Serbs, and no-one should entertain such racist thoughts. There were Serbs right throughout the Balkan wars, just as there were Croats etc, and this applies to most cases of predatory regimes launching unjustified wars. I salute all the Serbs who stood up against these kinds of actions.

The problem however is different. The problem is that not enough Serbs are willing to recognize that this action, and countless others like it, WERE the ground war in 1999. Whatever my support for the struggle of the Kosovar Albanians for self-determination – which long predates 1999 – I never supported NATO’s war on Serb civilians, and express my solidarity with the victims. However, there was nothing “patriotic” about Serbia’s war on the ground while NATO waged an almost completely separate war from the air (which hit a total of 13 Serbian tanks in 78 days, most in the last 2 weeks). Rather, the ground war was a most extraordinary act of opportunism by the regime of Milosevic/Seselj (just as NATO’s war itself was): it used the cover of the bombing to put in practice a program of trying to forcibly de-Albanise Kosovoa by expelling as large a proportion of the Albanian population as possible, something they could not get away with before March 1999, however repressive an oppressive the regime was. Thus the Suva Reka crime was not an aberration during a just defensive war, but a typical act of the war. The only defensive war would have been to try to shoot NATO planes from the sky; the fact that this was barely possible (due to the great solidarity of your Russian “allies” I guess) in no way justifies taking it out on someone else.

The last decade of brutal repression and the failure of Rugova’s peaceful struggle certainly justified the Albanians ultimate resort to armed struggle, as elsewhere in the world, whatever I may think of the KLA leadership and many of its actions. Having said that, few could deny that at the legal level, it was “legitimate” for the Serbian armed forces to fight them; that would be doing what any army of any country would be bound to do, till the political leaders realized the futility of fighting a whole people. But the problem is that the regime’s war was not simply a fight against the KLA, and from March 1999 was not even mostly such a fight, but rather a war with the aim of driving the Albanian population out of Kosova, something which could not be done without resort to such massive atrocities against the civilian population.