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Tuesday, 23.03.2010.

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Slovenian FM: Serbia too sensitive

Slovenian FM Samuel Žbogar says that Serbia has been "too sensitive lately" due to expected opinion of International Court of Justice (ICJ) on Kosovo.

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ZMAJ

pre 14 godina

We wonder if our reader "Mirub Jager" could stop spamming these pages, writing under various nicknames.B92

Finally! What can I say- this was obvious.

Rocky

pre 14 godina

EU are wasting time and money with Serbs.
Serbs have been caught uot so often that i assume everything they say is either misleading spin or outright lies.

johny

pre 14 godina

"What further proof does one need to expose the poor the level of Slovenia's diplomacy?"

--Seeing that Slovenia is already a EU member and Serbia is begging daily to become one; it is very easy to judge who is successful diplomatically and who is not.

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

“We were in favor, until the last moment, for President Tadić to participate in the conference. We looked for all possible ways for Kosovo and Serbia to participate and we were not successful,”
-
There you have it; "All possible ways for Kosovo and Serbia to participate, why are you trying to "trick" Serbia into having dialogue with this circus state? This shows that the purpose of this conference was to demean Serbia and have them indirectly recognize KosovoUNMIK as a country... Look who won the battle and look who tries to turn it around saying "Sebria is too sensitive"? what a joke... Good day

Mike

pre 14 godina

"Slovenian FM Samuel Žbogar says that Serbia has been "too sensitive lately" due to expected opinion of International Court of Justice (ICJ) on Kosovo." (B92)

-- This coming from the FM of a country that held up Croatia's bid for over a year due to disputed territory it claimed for its own. But whatever, blaming the lameness of your own party on someone who didn't show up is just a way of sweeping one's own shortcomings in the rug. And if I remember correctly, didn't Slovenia say just before the conference that they "wouldn't hold it against anyone who didn't show up", or something like that? Besides, I fail to see how Serbia is beeing "too sensitive" when

a) it officially stated it had no problem with Kosovo-UNMIK being represented as Kosovo-UNMIK. If there's anyone being too sensitive, it's the Albanians who continue to act as if Kosovo is an actual country.

b) Serbia is being forced to recognize a condition that over two-thirds of the world does not recognize, and the third that has, knows pretty well what Belgrade's position is.

In the end, the meeting ended up being a complete bust and blaming Belgrade is just a way to divert attention away. Kosovo has no future as an independent country and even less of a chance of being a self-sustaining entity. That Belgrade acknowledges this openly while others continue to hope and pray for a turnaround miracle is foolish. And making refenence to the ICJ in the way the FM did has no merit since the ICJ is going to recognize the divided control of the region anyway.

If it doesn't look like a duck
If it doesn't walk like a duck
If it doesn't quack like a duck,

guess what Žbogar, it ain't a duck.

Oh and one more thing: if Tadic was indeed "pressured by Spain" not to attend, I think we can not only rule out Spain's "eventual recognition" of Kosovo-UNMIK, but also rule out Kosovo-UNMIK's hope of getting into the EU as a separate country.

Oh what fun.

Zeka

pre 14 godina

This guy nullifies everything he says. Kosovo is Serbia. Ok, he may not agree, but he takes no account of Serbia's opinion. And he wants to be some kind of diplomat. I accept his decision and respect his right to have it, but he doesn't reciprocate.

Jim

pre 14 godina

Ian, grow up! Serbia did not unilaterally change the nature of a settlement in 2006. The Serbian Government was simply responding to the Kosovo Albanian position that there was nothing to negotiate as independence was not up for discussion. So, who was being the intransigent party?

If you want to argue in favour of the KA position, then at least do it in a way that treats the rest of us as adults!

Logic

pre 14 godina

@ COMMENTATOR

"We will definitely not be there next time when Germany and Italy come knocking."

Why would Italy knock at some of it's own doors?

As for Germany - Germany is more than welcome today.
You are referring to long forgotten '40s ... Some other times, some other "brotherhood"

JohnBoy

pre 14 godina

Why should the sloves be vindictive? They knew the conference would fail. This was all a ploy to get their us masters off of their back. The croats should be angry at themselves - they didn't have to come to it - now, they are officially grouped with "losers". I am disappointed with Dodik - he should have urged haris to come so now he could be holding his independence referendum. The eu showed its true colors last weekend. For the next conference, Spain will invite Serbia and UNMIK; participation of the k-albos is optional. Since Spain controls the eu presidency - the eu president will show up!
This latest attempt to stick it to Serbia blew up in their faces.

B92

pre 14 godina

We wonder if our reader "Mirub Jager" could stop spamming these pages, writing under various nicknames.

There is no hope that any of those "comments" will be published, so we advise against wasting our time, and theirs, in this manner.

Thank you,


B92

Aleks

pre 14 godina

What further proof does one need to expose the poor the level of Slovenia's diplomacy?

Instead of just shutting up and forgetting their embarrassment over the failure (and emergency begging trip to Belgrade) of their 'conference' on the Balkans, the Foreign Minister shows his own country's sensitivity over this humiliation.

It's very hard to miss the hypocrisy in his statements.

Yet again they show how much closer they really are to their balkan neighbors rather than their adored western european states.

As to his comments rubbishing the Serbophobe Economist magazine, as pointed out in the other thread, the cost of treating Serbia like Slovenia has treated Croatia (blackmail over EU entry) could be very expensive economically and politically for Slovenia.

When push comes to shove, they won't put their money where their mouth is. Plus ça change.

commentator

pre 14 godina

So Slovenia gets all hot and bothered about a few square kms of WATER with Croatia (pathetic) and then thinks that Serbia shouldn't be concerned about losing a huge chunk of territory.

Serbia is actually being unbelievable understanding by Slovenian standards.

Imagine if Croatia tried to annex a village or 2... the Slovenes would start a nuclear war over it if they could).

Get off your high horse Slovenia. You used to be a big fish in the Yugoslav sea, now you are just a sardine in the European ocean. Your choice - your problem.

Serbia from now on should totally ignore Slovenia until they apologize for all the evil they have done us since 1991.

Back stabbing by the Croats we expect, but from Slovenia it is still hurting.

We will definetly not be there next time Germany and Italy come knocking.

visar

pre 14 godina

Why should Kosovo-UNMIK be used to represent Kosovo? Kosovo has used this method up until the day it declared independence. After it declared independence it has since been recognized by 65 other states, including the host countries of this conference. No one should expect for Kosovo not to behave like a state, and those that do, their intention is to isolate Kosovo and deem it as a distabilizing factor in the region.

Kosovo would be better off not attending these confenrences if it is requested that she is represented by UN officials.

John

pre 14 godina

Was it Slovenia that was acting too sensitive when the Croats invaded their fishing waters? I guess when it happens to someone else, they're being sensitive.

Ian, UK

pre 14 godina

Imagine that - being sensitive about 15% of your territory being handed over and then being expected to recognise the annexed territory as a state?!

[The Slovenian FM] "added that the only formula which worked in such conferences was the “Gymnich formula” – "without names of states and only with names of participants" displayed."

No, what about the Resolution 1244 'formula', which states that Kosovo should be recognised at such gatherings as "UNMIK-Kosovo"?

Kosovo is legally a protectorate under the UN. The EU as a body and the UN do not recognise Kosovo as an independent nation, therefore it cannot be referred to as a state at official gatherings.
(kate, 23 March 2010 12:37)

How is it possible to "annex territory as a state", it doesn't make sense. It has broke away not joined something else, thus why it declared independence. Kosovo hasn't been annexed at all.

UNSCR 1244 said that there should be an agreed settlement on Kosovo's future status, but Serbia violated that in 2006 when Serbia unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status by saying in their constitution that Kosovo was Serbia's province. Kosovo had no say in this, it was unilateral on Serbia's behalf and thus in violation of UNSCR 1244; leaving Kosovo no option to independence.

Yes the EU and the UN do not recognise Kosovo as independent since they don't have the power to do so. It is not possible for them to "recognise" Kosovo, so what is your point?

Zoran

pre 14 godina

“Will this work in Sarajevo, we’ll see. That’s the matter for the Spanish Presidency and (Catherine) Ashton,” he replied when asked would Spain, which did not recognize Kosovo, manage to have "both Serbia and Kosovo" at the conference planned in Sarajevo for May or June.
--
I expect Serbia to attend but whether UNMIK-Kosovo attends is highly doubtful. What's important though is that the conference in Slovenia had no chance of being successful without Serbia but in Sarajevo, it is likely to be highly successful without "Kosova". That is the diffence between having the powerhouse of the Balkans or some illegal entity attending a conference.

Sooner or later the EU and Balkan region will have to make a choice. Who is more important to them? Serbia or "Kosova"? The choice is fairly simple.

Lets hope we can all sit down soon and negotiate a peaceful future together and to end this division once and for all.

Luigi

pre 14 godina

Probably Slovenia will remind Serbia in the future who is in and who is out...An equal treatment as Croatia had..They have already shown how it could be done !

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

The EU as a body and the UN do not recognise Kosovo as an independent nation, therefore it cannot be referred to as a state at official gatherings.
(kate, 23 March 2010, 12:37)

According to your logic, Switzerland was not a country till it became a UN member in 2002, right?

Valon

pre 14 godina

It is very sad that Serbia is willing to give up EU integration for some land they don't own, control or represent. The people of Serbia are suffering because of nationalism. It reminds me of Milosovics policies of nationalism effecting security, now nationalism is effecting the economy. That is too bad.

kate

pre 14 godina

Imagine that - being sensitive about 15% of your territory being handed over and then being expected to recognise the annexed territory as a state?!

[The Slovenian FM] "added that the only formula which worked in such conferences was the “Gymnich formula” – "without names of states and only with names of participants" displayed."

No, what about the Resolution 1244 'formula', which states that Kosovo should be recognised at such gatherings as "UNMIK-Kosovo"?

Kosovo is legally a protectorate under the UN. The EU as a body and the UN do not recognise Kosovo as an independent nation, therefore it cannot be referred to as a state at official gatherings.

kate

pre 14 godina

Imagine that - being sensitive about 15% of your territory being handed over and then being expected to recognise the annexed territory as a state?!

[The Slovenian FM] "added that the only formula which worked in such conferences was the “Gymnich formula” – "without names of states and only with names of participants" displayed."

No, what about the Resolution 1244 'formula', which states that Kosovo should be recognised at such gatherings as "UNMIK-Kosovo"?

Kosovo is legally a protectorate under the UN. The EU as a body and the UN do not recognise Kosovo as an independent nation, therefore it cannot be referred to as a state at official gatherings.

commentator

pre 14 godina

So Slovenia gets all hot and bothered about a few square kms of WATER with Croatia (pathetic) and then thinks that Serbia shouldn't be concerned about losing a huge chunk of territory.

Serbia is actually being unbelievable understanding by Slovenian standards.

Imagine if Croatia tried to annex a village or 2... the Slovenes would start a nuclear war over it if they could).

Get off your high horse Slovenia. You used to be a big fish in the Yugoslav sea, now you are just a sardine in the European ocean. Your choice - your problem.

Serbia from now on should totally ignore Slovenia until they apologize for all the evil they have done us since 1991.

Back stabbing by the Croats we expect, but from Slovenia it is still hurting.

We will definetly not be there next time Germany and Italy come knocking.

Jim

pre 14 godina

Ian, grow up! Serbia did not unilaterally change the nature of a settlement in 2006. The Serbian Government was simply responding to the Kosovo Albanian position that there was nothing to negotiate as independence was not up for discussion. So, who was being the intransigent party?

If you want to argue in favour of the KA position, then at least do it in a way that treats the rest of us as adults!

Zoran

pre 14 godina

“Will this work in Sarajevo, we’ll see. That’s the matter for the Spanish Presidency and (Catherine) Ashton,” he replied when asked would Spain, which did not recognize Kosovo, manage to have "both Serbia and Kosovo" at the conference planned in Sarajevo for May or June.
--
I expect Serbia to attend but whether UNMIK-Kosovo attends is highly doubtful. What's important though is that the conference in Slovenia had no chance of being successful without Serbia but in Sarajevo, it is likely to be highly successful without "Kosova". That is the diffence between having the powerhouse of the Balkans or some illegal entity attending a conference.

Sooner or later the EU and Balkan region will have to make a choice. Who is more important to them? Serbia or "Kosova"? The choice is fairly simple.

Lets hope we can all sit down soon and negotiate a peaceful future together and to end this division once and for all.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

The EU as a body and the UN do not recognise Kosovo as an independent nation, therefore it cannot be referred to as a state at official gatherings.
(kate, 23 March 2010, 12:37)

According to your logic, Switzerland was not a country till it became a UN member in 2002, right?

John

pre 14 godina

Was it Slovenia that was acting too sensitive when the Croats invaded their fishing waters? I guess when it happens to someone else, they're being sensitive.

Zeka

pre 14 godina

This guy nullifies everything he says. Kosovo is Serbia. Ok, he may not agree, but he takes no account of Serbia's opinion. And he wants to be some kind of diplomat. I accept his decision and respect his right to have it, but he doesn't reciprocate.

Aleks

pre 14 godina

What further proof does one need to expose the poor the level of Slovenia's diplomacy?

Instead of just shutting up and forgetting their embarrassment over the failure (and emergency begging trip to Belgrade) of their 'conference' on the Balkans, the Foreign Minister shows his own country's sensitivity over this humiliation.

It's very hard to miss the hypocrisy in his statements.

Yet again they show how much closer they really are to their balkan neighbors rather than their adored western european states.

As to his comments rubbishing the Serbophobe Economist magazine, as pointed out in the other thread, the cost of treating Serbia like Slovenia has treated Croatia (blackmail over EU entry) could be very expensive economically and politically for Slovenia.

When push comes to shove, they won't put their money where their mouth is. Plus ça change.

B92

pre 14 godina

We wonder if our reader "Mirub Jager" could stop spamming these pages, writing under various nicknames.

There is no hope that any of those "comments" will be published, so we advise against wasting our time, and theirs, in this manner.

Thank you,


B92

Mike

pre 14 godina

"Slovenian FM Samuel Žbogar says that Serbia has been "too sensitive lately" due to expected opinion of International Court of Justice (ICJ) on Kosovo." (B92)

-- This coming from the FM of a country that held up Croatia's bid for over a year due to disputed territory it claimed for its own. But whatever, blaming the lameness of your own party on someone who didn't show up is just a way of sweeping one's own shortcomings in the rug. And if I remember correctly, didn't Slovenia say just before the conference that they "wouldn't hold it against anyone who didn't show up", or something like that? Besides, I fail to see how Serbia is beeing "too sensitive" when

a) it officially stated it had no problem with Kosovo-UNMIK being represented as Kosovo-UNMIK. If there's anyone being too sensitive, it's the Albanians who continue to act as if Kosovo is an actual country.

b) Serbia is being forced to recognize a condition that over two-thirds of the world does not recognize, and the third that has, knows pretty well what Belgrade's position is.

In the end, the meeting ended up being a complete bust and blaming Belgrade is just a way to divert attention away. Kosovo has no future as an independent country and even less of a chance of being a self-sustaining entity. That Belgrade acknowledges this openly while others continue to hope and pray for a turnaround miracle is foolish. And making refenence to the ICJ in the way the FM did has no merit since the ICJ is going to recognize the divided control of the region anyway.

If it doesn't look like a duck
If it doesn't walk like a duck
If it doesn't quack like a duck,

guess what Žbogar, it ain't a duck.

Oh and one more thing: if Tadic was indeed "pressured by Spain" not to attend, I think we can not only rule out Spain's "eventual recognition" of Kosovo-UNMIK, but also rule out Kosovo-UNMIK's hope of getting into the EU as a separate country.

Oh what fun.

Valon

pre 14 godina

It is very sad that Serbia is willing to give up EU integration for some land they don't own, control or represent. The people of Serbia are suffering because of nationalism. It reminds me of Milosovics policies of nationalism effecting security, now nationalism is effecting the economy. That is too bad.

JohnBoy

pre 14 godina

Why should the sloves be vindictive? They knew the conference would fail. This was all a ploy to get their us masters off of their back. The croats should be angry at themselves - they didn't have to come to it - now, they are officially grouped with "losers". I am disappointed with Dodik - he should have urged haris to come so now he could be holding his independence referendum. The eu showed its true colors last weekend. For the next conference, Spain will invite Serbia and UNMIK; participation of the k-albos is optional. Since Spain controls the eu presidency - the eu president will show up!
This latest attempt to stick it to Serbia blew up in their faces.

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

“We were in favor, until the last moment, for President Tadić to participate in the conference. We looked for all possible ways for Kosovo and Serbia to participate and we were not successful,”
-
There you have it; "All possible ways for Kosovo and Serbia to participate, why are you trying to "trick" Serbia into having dialogue with this circus state? This shows that the purpose of this conference was to demean Serbia and have them indirectly recognize KosovoUNMIK as a country... Look who won the battle and look who tries to turn it around saying "Sebria is too sensitive"? what a joke... Good day

ZMAJ

pre 14 godina

We wonder if our reader "Mirub Jager" could stop spamming these pages, writing under various nicknames.B92

Finally! What can I say- this was obvious.

Ian, UK

pre 14 godina

Imagine that - being sensitive about 15% of your territory being handed over and then being expected to recognise the annexed territory as a state?!

[The Slovenian FM] "added that the only formula which worked in such conferences was the “Gymnich formula” – "without names of states and only with names of participants" displayed."

No, what about the Resolution 1244 'formula', which states that Kosovo should be recognised at such gatherings as "UNMIK-Kosovo"?

Kosovo is legally a protectorate under the UN. The EU as a body and the UN do not recognise Kosovo as an independent nation, therefore it cannot be referred to as a state at official gatherings.
(kate, 23 March 2010 12:37)

How is it possible to "annex territory as a state", it doesn't make sense. It has broke away not joined something else, thus why it declared independence. Kosovo hasn't been annexed at all.

UNSCR 1244 said that there should be an agreed settlement on Kosovo's future status, but Serbia violated that in 2006 when Serbia unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status by saying in their constitution that Kosovo was Serbia's province. Kosovo had no say in this, it was unilateral on Serbia's behalf and thus in violation of UNSCR 1244; leaving Kosovo no option to independence.

Yes the EU and the UN do not recognise Kosovo as independent since they don't have the power to do so. It is not possible for them to "recognise" Kosovo, so what is your point?

visar

pre 14 godina

Why should Kosovo-UNMIK be used to represent Kosovo? Kosovo has used this method up until the day it declared independence. After it declared independence it has since been recognized by 65 other states, including the host countries of this conference. No one should expect for Kosovo not to behave like a state, and those that do, their intention is to isolate Kosovo and deem it as a distabilizing factor in the region.

Kosovo would be better off not attending these confenrences if it is requested that she is represented by UN officials.

Logic

pre 14 godina

@ COMMENTATOR

"We will definitely not be there next time when Germany and Italy come knocking."

Why would Italy knock at some of it's own doors?

As for Germany - Germany is more than welcome today.
You are referring to long forgotten '40s ... Some other times, some other "brotherhood"

Luigi

pre 14 godina

Probably Slovenia will remind Serbia in the future who is in and who is out...An equal treatment as Croatia had..They have already shown how it could be done !

johny

pre 14 godina

"What further proof does one need to expose the poor the level of Slovenia's diplomacy?"

--Seeing that Slovenia is already a EU member and Serbia is begging daily to become one; it is very easy to judge who is successful diplomatically and who is not.

Rocky

pre 14 godina

EU are wasting time and money with Serbs.
Serbs have been caught uot so often that i assume everything they say is either misleading spin or outright lies.

Valon

pre 14 godina

It is very sad that Serbia is willing to give up EU integration for some land they don't own, control or represent. The people of Serbia are suffering because of nationalism. It reminds me of Milosovics policies of nationalism effecting security, now nationalism is effecting the economy. That is too bad.

visar

pre 14 godina

Why should Kosovo-UNMIK be used to represent Kosovo? Kosovo has used this method up until the day it declared independence. After it declared independence it has since been recognized by 65 other states, including the host countries of this conference. No one should expect for Kosovo not to behave like a state, and those that do, their intention is to isolate Kosovo and deem it as a distabilizing factor in the region.

Kosovo would be better off not attending these confenrences if it is requested that she is represented by UN officials.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

The EU as a body and the UN do not recognise Kosovo as an independent nation, therefore it cannot be referred to as a state at official gatherings.
(kate, 23 March 2010, 12:37)

According to your logic, Switzerland was not a country till it became a UN member in 2002, right?

kate

pre 14 godina

Imagine that - being sensitive about 15% of your territory being handed over and then being expected to recognise the annexed territory as a state?!

[The Slovenian FM] "added that the only formula which worked in such conferences was the “Gymnich formula” – "without names of states and only with names of participants" displayed."

No, what about the Resolution 1244 'formula', which states that Kosovo should be recognised at such gatherings as "UNMIK-Kosovo"?

Kosovo is legally a protectorate under the UN. The EU as a body and the UN do not recognise Kosovo as an independent nation, therefore it cannot be referred to as a state at official gatherings.

Ian, UK

pre 14 godina

Imagine that - being sensitive about 15% of your territory being handed over and then being expected to recognise the annexed territory as a state?!

[The Slovenian FM] "added that the only formula which worked in such conferences was the “Gymnich formula” – "without names of states and only with names of participants" displayed."

No, what about the Resolution 1244 'formula', which states that Kosovo should be recognised at such gatherings as "UNMIK-Kosovo"?

Kosovo is legally a protectorate under the UN. The EU as a body and the UN do not recognise Kosovo as an independent nation, therefore it cannot be referred to as a state at official gatherings.
(kate, 23 March 2010 12:37)

How is it possible to "annex territory as a state", it doesn't make sense. It has broke away not joined something else, thus why it declared independence. Kosovo hasn't been annexed at all.

UNSCR 1244 said that there should be an agreed settlement on Kosovo's future status, but Serbia violated that in 2006 when Serbia unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status by saying in their constitution that Kosovo was Serbia's province. Kosovo had no say in this, it was unilateral on Serbia's behalf and thus in violation of UNSCR 1244; leaving Kosovo no option to independence.

Yes the EU and the UN do not recognise Kosovo as independent since they don't have the power to do so. It is not possible for them to "recognise" Kosovo, so what is your point?

Luigi

pre 14 godina

Probably Slovenia will remind Serbia in the future who is in and who is out...An equal treatment as Croatia had..They have already shown how it could be done !

John

pre 14 godina

Was it Slovenia that was acting too sensitive when the Croats invaded their fishing waters? I guess when it happens to someone else, they're being sensitive.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

“Will this work in Sarajevo, we’ll see. That’s the matter for the Spanish Presidency and (Catherine) Ashton,” he replied when asked would Spain, which did not recognize Kosovo, manage to have "both Serbia and Kosovo" at the conference planned in Sarajevo for May or June.
--
I expect Serbia to attend but whether UNMIK-Kosovo attends is highly doubtful. What's important though is that the conference in Slovenia had no chance of being successful without Serbia but in Sarajevo, it is likely to be highly successful without "Kosova". That is the diffence between having the powerhouse of the Balkans or some illegal entity attending a conference.

Sooner or later the EU and Balkan region will have to make a choice. Who is more important to them? Serbia or "Kosova"? The choice is fairly simple.

Lets hope we can all sit down soon and negotiate a peaceful future together and to end this division once and for all.

commentator

pre 14 godina

So Slovenia gets all hot and bothered about a few square kms of WATER with Croatia (pathetic) and then thinks that Serbia shouldn't be concerned about losing a huge chunk of territory.

Serbia is actually being unbelievable understanding by Slovenian standards.

Imagine if Croatia tried to annex a village or 2... the Slovenes would start a nuclear war over it if they could).

Get off your high horse Slovenia. You used to be a big fish in the Yugoslav sea, now you are just a sardine in the European ocean. Your choice - your problem.

Serbia from now on should totally ignore Slovenia until they apologize for all the evil they have done us since 1991.

Back stabbing by the Croats we expect, but from Slovenia it is still hurting.

We will definetly not be there next time Germany and Italy come knocking.

Rocky

pre 14 godina

EU are wasting time and money with Serbs.
Serbs have been caught uot so often that i assume everything they say is either misleading spin or outright lies.

johny

pre 14 godina

"What further proof does one need to expose the poor the level of Slovenia's diplomacy?"

--Seeing that Slovenia is already a EU member and Serbia is begging daily to become one; it is very easy to judge who is successful diplomatically and who is not.

Logic

pre 14 godina

@ COMMENTATOR

"We will definitely not be there next time when Germany and Italy come knocking."

Why would Italy knock at some of it's own doors?

As for Germany - Germany is more than welcome today.
You are referring to long forgotten '40s ... Some other times, some other "brotherhood"

Zeka

pre 14 godina

This guy nullifies everything he says. Kosovo is Serbia. Ok, he may not agree, but he takes no account of Serbia's opinion. And he wants to be some kind of diplomat. I accept his decision and respect his right to have it, but he doesn't reciprocate.

Jim

pre 14 godina

Ian, grow up! Serbia did not unilaterally change the nature of a settlement in 2006. The Serbian Government was simply responding to the Kosovo Albanian position that there was nothing to negotiate as independence was not up for discussion. So, who was being the intransigent party?

If you want to argue in favour of the KA position, then at least do it in a way that treats the rest of us as adults!

B92

pre 14 godina

We wonder if our reader "Mirub Jager" could stop spamming these pages, writing under various nicknames.

There is no hope that any of those "comments" will be published, so we advise against wasting our time, and theirs, in this manner.

Thank you,


B92

Mike

pre 14 godina

"Slovenian FM Samuel Žbogar says that Serbia has been "too sensitive lately" due to expected opinion of International Court of Justice (ICJ) on Kosovo." (B92)

-- This coming from the FM of a country that held up Croatia's bid for over a year due to disputed territory it claimed for its own. But whatever, blaming the lameness of your own party on someone who didn't show up is just a way of sweeping one's own shortcomings in the rug. And if I remember correctly, didn't Slovenia say just before the conference that they "wouldn't hold it against anyone who didn't show up", or something like that? Besides, I fail to see how Serbia is beeing "too sensitive" when

a) it officially stated it had no problem with Kosovo-UNMIK being represented as Kosovo-UNMIK. If there's anyone being too sensitive, it's the Albanians who continue to act as if Kosovo is an actual country.

b) Serbia is being forced to recognize a condition that over two-thirds of the world does not recognize, and the third that has, knows pretty well what Belgrade's position is.

In the end, the meeting ended up being a complete bust and blaming Belgrade is just a way to divert attention away. Kosovo has no future as an independent country and even less of a chance of being a self-sustaining entity. That Belgrade acknowledges this openly while others continue to hope and pray for a turnaround miracle is foolish. And making refenence to the ICJ in the way the FM did has no merit since the ICJ is going to recognize the divided control of the region anyway.

If it doesn't look like a duck
If it doesn't walk like a duck
If it doesn't quack like a duck,

guess what Žbogar, it ain't a duck.

Oh and one more thing: if Tadic was indeed "pressured by Spain" not to attend, I think we can not only rule out Spain's "eventual recognition" of Kosovo-UNMIK, but also rule out Kosovo-UNMIK's hope of getting into the EU as a separate country.

Oh what fun.

Aleks

pre 14 godina

What further proof does one need to expose the poor the level of Slovenia's diplomacy?

Instead of just shutting up and forgetting their embarrassment over the failure (and emergency begging trip to Belgrade) of their 'conference' on the Balkans, the Foreign Minister shows his own country's sensitivity over this humiliation.

It's very hard to miss the hypocrisy in his statements.

Yet again they show how much closer they really are to their balkan neighbors rather than their adored western european states.

As to his comments rubbishing the Serbophobe Economist magazine, as pointed out in the other thread, the cost of treating Serbia like Slovenia has treated Croatia (blackmail over EU entry) could be very expensive economically and politically for Slovenia.

When push comes to shove, they won't put their money where their mouth is. Plus ça change.

JohnBoy

pre 14 godina

Why should the sloves be vindictive? They knew the conference would fail. This was all a ploy to get their us masters off of their back. The croats should be angry at themselves - they didn't have to come to it - now, they are officially grouped with "losers". I am disappointed with Dodik - he should have urged haris to come so now he could be holding his independence referendum. The eu showed its true colors last weekend. For the next conference, Spain will invite Serbia and UNMIK; participation of the k-albos is optional. Since Spain controls the eu presidency - the eu president will show up!
This latest attempt to stick it to Serbia blew up in their faces.

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

“We were in favor, until the last moment, for President Tadić to participate in the conference. We looked for all possible ways for Kosovo and Serbia to participate and we were not successful,”
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There you have it; "All possible ways for Kosovo and Serbia to participate, why are you trying to "trick" Serbia into having dialogue with this circus state? This shows that the purpose of this conference was to demean Serbia and have them indirectly recognize KosovoUNMIK as a country... Look who won the battle and look who tries to turn it around saying "Sebria is too sensitive"? what a joke... Good day

ZMAJ

pre 14 godina

We wonder if our reader "Mirub Jager" could stop spamming these pages, writing under various nicknames.B92

Finally! What can I say- this was obvious.