“Serbian presence would mean Kosovo recognition”

Excellent. Does it mean if Kosovo enters Olympic Games and any other international sport events that Serbia will not be participating. If that is the case I truly hope that Serbia does not recognize Kosovo for another thousand years...
(croata, 20 March 2010 12:34)
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It most certainly does but "Kosova" cannot enter any popular international sporting event as it is not a country or UN member.

It can only participate in the Olympics under the Olympic flag. Your hope of Serbia not recognising "Kosova" for a 1000 years will be fulfilled. Serbia will never recognise it.

Cheers.

Considering all the misfortunes and suffering that came from a country responsible for so much bloodshed all over the Yugoslavia it amazes me that Slovene and Croat officials went to such great lengths to bring Serbia on board.

The regional participants should send a clear message to Serbia: Your hands are full of blood, your victims on every ex-yugoslav repuplic are still screaming for justice..... and we are sick and tired of your useless complaining. You(Serbia) have lost whatever your nationlists desired so either join us in plotting a bright future for our children or stay isolated for as long as you desire.

Excellent. Does it mean if Kosovo enters Olympic Games and any other international sport events that Serbia will not be participating. If that is the case I truly hope that Serbia does not recognize Kosovo for another thousand years...
(croata, 20 March 2010, 12:34)
Don't worry - Kosovo have any sport on the Olympics level - all the best players from Kosovo - are Serbs ;)

Hamlet without the Prince.

EU officials will not be attending the conference, even though EU President Herman Van Rompuy and Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos were expected to attend.
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What's the point of attending when the Spanish conference in Sarajevo will have a full house minus fake "Kosova"?

On the agenda today:

10:00 to 12:00 : Morning "Simon Says" practice.
12:00 to 14:00 : Lunch
14:00 to 17:00 : Afternoon "Simon Says" practice. This is to ensure all participants are efficient at following US instructions.

Anyway, it is becoming ever more obvious that this "Kosova" initiative has set the whole region back 10 years.

Two "ground-zero" points are to be underlined after this little "diplomatic exercise" by Serbia:

-whatever it may be the result of future negotiations on the status of Serbia's southern province, Serbia must and will NEVER "recognize" Kosovo as an independent state. That will as well understand that we will not block Kosovo economical development and possible "prosperity" of their population though membership in any of economical and trade institutions and organizations which would possibly indicate the elements of "statehood" for Kosovo will be vigorously blocked.

- as per second: Serbia must not involve itself in the process of political negotiations at the present with the criminal figures like Thaci, Haradinaj or any other of Kosovo-Albanians notorious mafia and war-crime individuals who are suspects or potentially on our criminal "wanted" lists.
To be entitled to negotiate Kosovo Albanians must decide to depart themselves from their war-criminals and drug-mafia past and "representatives".



-whatever

Excellent. Does it mean if Kosovo enters Olympic Games and any other international sport events that Serbia will not be participating. If that is the case I truly hope that Serbia does not recognize Kosovo for another thousand years...

“The call for Serbia to develop its good relations with neighboring countries cannot be related to Kosovo,”

Talk to the Germans and the French (and 20 other EU nations), they already told you point blank: Kosova is a neighbor.

Myself, I agree with the Germans, unless Serbia and Kosova come to an agreement this year stop their EU process dead in its tracks for at least 3-5 years. No SAA, no candidate status, nothing.
(Aight, 20 March 2010, 11:14)
1. Kosovo is not "neighbour" - is part of state of Serbia.
2. No one in European Union want serbian recognition of Kosovo.

I love how no eu officials are attending just because Serbia isn't. Kosovo I metohija isn't going to be attending the OFFICIAL eu conferences without being represented as Kosovo-UNMIK. Sorry "kosova" you can't go anywhere official without Serbian, Spanish, Greek, Romanian,Slovak, or Cyprus permission.

Montenegrin Prime Minister Milo Đukanović was the first to arrive to Slovenia on Friday, followed by Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci.B92

I'm damn sure those two will come first- but why?

Is there some "conference"?

How I know the conference is finished in Belgrade and on the base of that EU Council decided not to be present in Slovenia- in adequate way, possibly at all.

Herman Van Rompuy?

He was at conference, by phone. There's nothing for him in Slovenia.

My friends Kosovo is already Independent, regardless of Serbian presence. But I can't stop laughing at those who said Slovenes and Croats will have to choose between a so-called regional leader or a blackhole named Kosovo, guess we now know.

The decision of the Serb Officials is understandable.
The real question is why do other countries' officials would sit at the same table with the (fake) prime minister of a (fake) criminal country without any chance to produce any kind of richness in a legal way as kosovo is?
Maybe this summit is only a seminar (with "prof." thaci as the main teacher) about smuggling, organs weapons and drugs traffics and corruption?

I love how no eu officials are attending just because Serbia isn't. Kosovo I metohija isn't going to be attending the OFFICIAL eu conferences without being represented as Kosovo-UNMIK. Sorry "kosova" you can't go anywhere official without Serbian, Spanish, Greek, Romanian,Slovak, or Cyprus permission.
(Anonymous, 20 March 2010 13:20)

It is certainly interesting that one of the six countries you mentioned above is not even yet a candidate for the EU. We all know that to be Serbia. The remaining five countries have marginal membership in the EU. The relatively strongest member of this decidedly weak group, Greece, is in dire financial straits and is begging the EU to be bailed out. What does that say for the four weakest members: Spain, Slovakia, Romania and Cypress. Does anyone care?

The decision of the Serbs Officials is understandable.
Why do the other countries officials would be sitting with the (fake) prime minister of a (fake) criminal country without any chance to produce any kind of richness in a legal way as kosovo is?
Maybe this summit will turn into a seminar about smuggling, weapons-drugs and organs trafficking and corruption with "prof." thaci as the main teacher.

“The call for Serbia to develop its good relations with neighboring countries cannot be related to Kosovo,”

Talk to the Germans and the French (and 20 other EU nations), they already told you point blank: Kosova is a neighbor.

Myself, I agree with the Germans, unless Serbia and Kosova come to an agreement this year stop their EU process dead in its tracks for at least 3-5 years. No SAA, no candidate status, nothing.

“The President cannot sit in front of a name plate that would only state his name or state nothing at all,” Stefanović said, referring to the proposal for conference participators not to have any denotations of what countries they represent"

That proves outright that Serbia has never had or has any intention about any compromise solution. It is all about TERRITORY.

Serbia with its stance has only damaged itself in front of international community. It changed nothing when it comes to assert its authority/sovereignity over Kosovo/a. Absolutely nothing. What it has done making Kosovo more and more independent from than before.
The proposal from Slovenia "to sit in front of a name plate..." it was absolutely a good will action for a REAL COMPROMISE.

Hahaha...I cannot stop laughing. When me and my neighbours have a small summer barbecue party in my backyard, this is more important than this gathering. I mean come on... The main country do not participate and the one who have anything to say about future decisions, EU, is not attending. What will they discuss?! Who has the most colourful tie or what?

sigh... i dont understand why serbs are happy that eu officials would not attend... it is not an EU event...It was never meant to be. It is a balkan summit held by balkan countries.

there are only 2 things serbia has truly succeeded in doing. It has been and continues the be the source of problems in the balkans.

No it doesn't. Does Egypt recognise Western Sahara since they both participate in the African Union? No. Does Saudi Arabia recognise Israel since they both participate in the UN? No.

"Stefanović said that Serbia was prepared to reach a compromise for its participation in the conference, but that every acceptable solution would include having an UNMIK official be present to represent Kosovo. "

LOL what's the compromise? do as we tell u? hehe

anyhow now we know at least who is more important, many have speculated that they will listen to Serbia because Serbia is more important.

I saw yesterday in another article on this subject that many began to diss this meeting, now that we know that Serbia will not be there. Please, until yesterday when it was not clear that Serbia would not be there, this meeting was the world's most important. And now when they have not listened to Serbia, this meeting is suddenly completely worthless.

Actually, the title of the article is not true.

Serbia could attend and still not recognise the udi. Don't be confused by ideas about 'diplomatic signals'. These little diplomatic conclusions about behaviour are a bit silly and are not really the main point.

As I have said before: this is not a big deal.

Serbia is too significant a player for the issues to go unaddressed. Meetings that have to be made with Serbia will just be made elsewhere - often outside of any publicised forum.

Tadic is right not to attend.

This is not (just) a 'diplomatic signal'; it is a practical shut-out which will serve to ensure the marginalisation of the udi.

Serbia will probably boycott many other meetings in the future.

The significant work will be done elsewhere. The effect of conferences involving a mis-represented Kosovo will therefore diminish. It won't be worth the bother.

"Serbian presence" would have amounted to little more than a waste of time and gas considering how quickly the powwow ended.

(Babaj Bokes, 20 March 2010 13:56)

There is a simple answer to your question they all need Serbia, but Serbia does not need them – that’s why!
The “ex-yugoslav repuplic” can scream as much as they like and look who is talking about “we are sick and tired of your useless complaining” - tell that to someone that cares. And no Serbs are not interested in joining anyone because we hold all the cards in our hands – Kosovo is going nowhere fast; the other so called new countries would not survive if not for EU funds, so who cares what you or anyone else thinks.

Hamlet without the Prince.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 20 March 2010 13:49 ??
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Your Prince is paying a high price for meddling with our Prince.

Actually to Michael R. Spain is a pretty powerful member of the eu. And Serbias opinion does count on the matter of "kosova" attending because the eu doesn't want trouble and needs a neutral way to represent Kosovo I metohija which would be unmik-Kosovo

Do I understand right? He would like to attend the meeting, but can´t because he think he would loose anything?

You are your own obstacle! The obstacle is only in your minds.

Everyone knows, he will not recognize Kosovo, this doesn´t change if he attend them meeting.

But everyone outside expect the start of dialog. Start finally!!!!

Serbian presence would mean Kosovo recognition

...sooner or later!

It's all good, both Serbia and Kosova are in a much better place today than they were 11 years ago. These are some small post war hiccups , let's move on , let's enjoy freedom like we Kosovars finally do. Same thing goes for Serbians currently living in Kosovo. We will be negotiating soon, but today is still to early for many Kosovar families whos love ones are still missing.

Considering all the misfortunes and suffering that came from a country responsible for so much bloodshed all over the Yugoslavia it amazes me that Slovene and Croat officials went to such great lengths to bring Serbia on board.

The regional participants should send a clear message to Serbia: Your hands are full of blood, your victims on every ex-yugoslav repuplic are still screaming for justice..... and we are sick and tired of your useless complaining. You(Serbia) have lost whatever your nationlists desired so either join us in plotting a bright future for our children or stay isolated for as long as you desire.

Excellent. Does it mean if Kosovo enters Olympic Games and any other international sport events that Serbia will not be participating. If that is the case I truly hope that Serbia does not recognize Kosovo for another thousand years...

EU officials will not be attending the conference, even though EU President Herman Van Rompuy and Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos were expected to attend.
--
What's the point of attending when the Spanish conference in Sarajevo will have a full house minus fake "Kosova"?

On the agenda today:

10:00 to 12:00 : Morning "Simon Says" practice.
12:00 to 14:00 : Lunch
14:00 to 17:00 : Afternoon "Simon Says" practice. This is to ensure all participants are efficient at following US instructions.

Anyway, it is becoming ever more obvious that this "Kosova" initiative has set the whole region back 10 years.

"Stefanović said that Serbia was prepared to reach a compromise for its participation in the conference, but that every acceptable solution would include having an UNMIK official be present to represent Kosovo. "

LOL what's the compromise? do as we tell u? hehe

anyhow now we know at least who is more important, many have speculated that they will listen to Serbia because Serbia is more important.

I saw yesterday in another article on this subject that many began to diss this meeting, now that we know that Serbia will not be there. Please, until yesterday when it was not clear that Serbia would not be there, this meeting was the world's most important. And now when they have not listened to Serbia, this meeting is suddenly completely worthless.

Excellent. Does it mean if Kosovo enters Olympic Games and any other international sport events that Serbia will not be participating. If that is the case I truly hope that Serbia does not recognize Kosovo for another thousand years...
(croata, 20 March 2010, 12:34)
Don't worry - Kosovo have any sport on the Olympics level - all the best players from Kosovo - are Serbs ;)

“The call for Serbia to develop its good relations with neighboring countries cannot be related to Kosovo,”

Talk to the Germans and the French (and 20 other EU nations), they already told you point blank: Kosova is a neighbor.

Myself, I agree with the Germans, unless Serbia and Kosova come to an agreement this year stop their EU process dead in its tracks for at least 3-5 years. No SAA, no candidate status, nothing.

“The call for Serbia to develop its good relations with neighboring countries cannot be related to Kosovo,”

Talk to the Germans and the French (and 20 other EU nations), they already told you point blank: Kosova is a neighbor.

Myself, I agree with the Germans, unless Serbia and Kosova come to an agreement this year stop their EU process dead in its tracks for at least 3-5 years. No SAA, no candidate status, nothing.
(Aight, 20 March 2010, 11:14)
1. Kosovo is not "neighbour" - is part of state of Serbia.
2. No one in European Union want serbian recognition of Kosovo.

Excellent. Does it mean if Kosovo enters Olympic Games and any other international sport events that Serbia will not be participating. If that is the case I truly hope that Serbia does not recognize Kosovo for another thousand years...
(croata, 20 March 2010 12:34)
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It most certainly does but "Kosova" cannot enter any popular international sporting event as it is not a country or UN member.

It can only participate in the Olympics under the Olympic flag. Your hope of Serbia not recognising "Kosova" for a 1000 years will be fulfilled. Serbia will never recognise it.

Cheers.

My friends Kosovo is already Independent, regardless of Serbian presence. But I can't stop laughing at those who said Slovenes and Croats will have to choose between a so-called regional leader or a blackhole named Kosovo, guess we now know.

I love how no eu officials are attending just because Serbia isn't. Kosovo I metohija isn't going to be attending the OFFICIAL eu conferences without being represented as Kosovo-UNMIK. Sorry "kosova" you can't go anywhere official without Serbian, Spanish, Greek, Romanian,Slovak, or Cyprus permission.

The decision of the Serb Officials is understandable.
The real question is why do other countries' officials would sit at the same table with the (fake) prime minister of a (fake) criminal country without any chance to produce any kind of richness in a legal way as kosovo is?
Maybe this summit is only a seminar (with "prof." thaci as the main teacher) about smuggling, organs weapons and drugs traffics and corruption?

“The President cannot sit in front of a name plate that would only state his name or state nothing at all,” Stefanović said, referring to the proposal for conference participators not to have any denotations of what countries they represent"

That proves outright that Serbia has never had or has any intention about any compromise solution. It is all about TERRITORY.

Serbia with its stance has only damaged itself in front of international community. It changed nothing when it comes to assert its authority/sovereignity over Kosovo/a. Absolutely nothing. What it has done making Kosovo more and more independent from than before.
The proposal from Slovenia "to sit in front of a name plate..." it was absolutely a good will action for a REAL COMPROMISE.

Montenegrin Prime Minister Milo Đukanović was the first to arrive to Slovenia on Friday, followed by Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci.B92

I'm damn sure those two will come first- but why?

Is there some "conference"?

How I know the conference is finished in Belgrade and on the base of that EU Council decided not to be present in Slovenia- in adequate way, possibly at all.

Herman Van Rompuy?

He was at conference, by phone. There's nothing for him in Slovenia.

Hamlet without the Prince.

Two "ground-zero" points are to be underlined after this little "diplomatic exercise" by Serbia:

-whatever it may be the result of future negotiations on the status of Serbia's southern province, Serbia must and will NEVER "recognize" Kosovo as an independent state. That will as well understand that we will not block Kosovo economical development and possible "prosperity" of their population though membership in any of economical and trade institutions and organizations which would possibly indicate the elements of "statehood" for Kosovo will be vigorously blocked.

- as per second: Serbia must not involve itself in the process of political negotiations at the present with the criminal figures like Thaci, Haradinaj or any other of Kosovo-Albanians notorious mafia and war-crime individuals who are suspects or potentially on our criminal "wanted" lists.
To be entitled to negotiate Kosovo Albanians must decide to depart themselves from their war-criminals and drug-mafia past and "representatives".



-whatever

Hahaha...I cannot stop laughing. When me and my neighbours have a small summer barbecue party in my backyard, this is more important than this gathering. I mean come on... The main country do not participate and the one who have anything to say about future decisions, EU, is not attending. What will they discuss?! Who has the most colourful tie or what?

No it doesn't. Does Egypt recognise Western Sahara since they both participate in the African Union? No. Does Saudi Arabia recognise Israel since they both participate in the UN? No.

I love how no eu officials are attending just because Serbia isn't. Kosovo I metohija isn't going to be attending the OFFICIAL eu conferences without being represented as Kosovo-UNMIK. Sorry "kosova" you can't go anywhere official without Serbian, Spanish, Greek, Romanian,Slovak, or Cyprus permission.
(Anonymous, 20 March 2010 13:20)

It is certainly interesting that one of the six countries you mentioned above is not even yet a candidate for the EU. We all know that to be Serbia. The remaining five countries have marginal membership in the EU. The relatively strongest member of this decidedly weak group, Greece, is in dire financial straits and is begging the EU to be bailed out. What does that say for the four weakest members: Spain, Slovakia, Romania and Cypress. Does anyone care?

The decision of the Serbs Officials is understandable.
Why do the other countries officials would be sitting with the (fake) prime minister of a (fake) criminal country without any chance to produce any kind of richness in a legal way as kosovo is?
Maybe this summit will turn into a seminar about smuggling, weapons-drugs and organs trafficking and corruption with "prof." thaci as the main teacher.

sigh... i dont understand why serbs are happy that eu officials would not attend... it is not an EU event...It was never meant to be. It is a balkan summit held by balkan countries.

there are only 2 things serbia has truly succeeded in doing. It has been and continues the be the source of problems in the balkans.

"Serbian presence" would have amounted to little more than a waste of time and gas considering how quickly the powwow ended.

Actually, the title of the article is not true.

Serbia could attend and still not recognise the udi. Don't be confused by ideas about 'diplomatic signals'. These little diplomatic conclusions about behaviour are a bit silly and are not really the main point.

As I have said before: this is not a big deal.

Serbia is too significant a player for the issues to go unaddressed. Meetings that have to be made with Serbia will just be made elsewhere - often outside of any publicised forum.

Tadic is right not to attend.

This is not (just) a 'diplomatic signal'; it is a practical shut-out which will serve to ensure the marginalisation of the udi.

Serbia will probably boycott many other meetings in the future.

The significant work will be done elsewhere. The effect of conferences involving a mis-represented Kosovo will therefore diminish. It won't be worth the bother.

Actually to Michael R. Spain is a pretty powerful member of the eu. And Serbias opinion does count on the matter of "kosova" attending because the eu doesn't want trouble and needs a neutral way to represent Kosovo I metohija which would be unmik-Kosovo

(Babaj Bokes, 20 March 2010 13:56)

There is a simple answer to your question they all need Serbia, but Serbia does not need them – that’s why!
The “ex-yugoslav repuplic” can scream as much as they like and look who is talking about “we are sick and tired of your useless complaining” - tell that to someone that cares. And no Serbs are not interested in joining anyone because we hold all the cards in our hands – Kosovo is going nowhere fast; the other so called new countries would not survive if not for EU funds, so who cares what you or anyone else thinks.

Do I understand right? He would like to attend the meeting, but can´t because he think he would loose anything?

You are your own obstacle! The obstacle is only in your minds.

Everyone knows, he will not recognize Kosovo, this doesn´t change if he attend them meeting.

But everyone outside expect the start of dialog. Start finally!!!!

Hamlet without the Prince.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 20 March 2010 13:49 ??
--
Your Prince is paying a high price for meddling with our Prince.

Serbian presence would mean Kosovo recognition

...sooner or later!

It's all good, both Serbia and Kosova are in a much better place today than they were 11 years ago. These are some small post war hiccups , let's move on , let's enjoy freedom like we Kosovars finally do. Same thing goes for Serbians currently living in Kosovo. We will be negotiating soon, but today is still to early for many Kosovar families whos love ones are still missing.