Turk FM wants Serbia to apologize

bahahahaha how bout he just keep his mouth shut. did these turkeys apologize to Armenia? did these turkeys apologize to Serbs for allowing turks to go fight with the muslim terrorists? no?

Serbia should also apologize for being raped, tortured, harrassed and enslaved for 500 years by the turks. Also Armenians should apologize to Turkey for having millions of its people massacred by muslim turks.

Who is this joker!

It's also time for Serbia to introduce a resolution to recognise the genocide committed by Turkey against the Armenians.

The world wants Turkey to apologize for the Armenian Genocide.

The term genocide has, unfortunately, become a political tool with which to bash your opponents. Turkey is in no position to lecture anybody about the miss treatment of ethnic minorities. Up until recently the Kurdish population were forbidden from using their own language, nevermind the deliberate extermination of the Armenian people during the First World war. Turkish meddling in the Balkans is as unwelcome now, as it was in the past.

This minister certainly talks big for someone from a country with 1915 Armenia hanging over its head! The pot calling the kettle black!

Sure, Serbia will apologize after Turkety begs forgiveness from Serbia and Greece for 500 years of occupation and destruction (blood tax), along with a Turkish withdraw of Cyprus and Constantinople. Throw in an apology for a true genocide against Armenia and the continued harassment of it's Kurdish citizens.

Turkey...the name says it all.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones! The FM should be apologising to the Armenians for the genocide they committed. They should also apologise to the Christian nations of the Balkans for the pain and suffering they inflicted over the course of 500 years.

"Serbia will appologize VERY SOON about Bosnia and little bit later EVEN to Kosovo.
(PRN, 19 March 2010, 15:47)"

Don't hold your breath waiting for this to happen .... because you will suffocate!

Ahmet Davutoglu has no mandate to represent moslems and he can't put any demand on Serbia.
The time when Sultan was the Caliph is gone and not likely to return.

If anything is - this is an issue to sort out between BiH and Serbia. I hope they will sort it out, the victims should rest in peace. But this is not his damn business.

And as for apologies - I have a little list.

Greece
Cyprus
Syria
Armenia
Iran
Georgia
Albania
Serbia
Croatia
Romania
Moldova
Ukraine
Hungary
Slovenia
Poland
Russia
Malta
Bosnia
Slovakia
Austria
Italy

Anyone left out?

OK, that's the ad-hock list of the countries burned, pillaged and raped by Ottomans. The list is impressive. There are some more bad news. All these countries are either in EU or will be in EU before Turkey (except Syria and Iran). And all of them will want apologies, to a smaller or larger degree. I smell some trouble - unless Turkey's politicians change their attitude.

Very tough list...

It shows a breathtaking lack of either irony or perspective that he's making this statement at a time when Turkey is getting hysterical about anyone mentioning the Armenian genocide. It just shows that, unfortunately, ardent nationalists tend to be a bit dim, whatever their nationality.

Who cares what third world Turkey thinks?
If they continue down the road of nerving their American puppets Turkey could easily desintegrate,like Yugoslavia Turkey is a state where 20 million Kurds and other minorities live under the yearn of Turkish supression.

Among the rest..."Davutoglu supports the abolishment of the Schengen visa regime for Bosnian citizens, which was recently abolished for citizens of Serbia, Macedonia and Montenegro.." ?

>>> And who is he to be asked concerning this particular matter? He is maybe having some personal influence about the question in EU? Answer is: his influence is equal to none.
And what about if he tries to get his own Turkey on Schengen visa free list, though it will be mission impossible? Or maybe he implies that millions of the Turks will then try to get Bosnian passports and use the back-door entrance to visa free EU?

Complete statement of his in this article is just one big and major nothing.
And most important, concerning Turkish relation with Serbia: let it stay very far and distant...just like where Anatolia actually is!

Here we have yet another muppet show character (like his friend Sejdiu) walking around in circles and spewing political dogma. He obviously does not know or does not want to know that we still remember vividly 500 years of degradation and molestation under Turkish yoke! Who will forget or forgive the famous "blood tax"?
Nobody in the Balkans, thats for sure.

Perhaps Turkey should first apologize to Serbia and all Serbians in Eastern Europe. They have several hundred years of atrocities committed against the Serbs to make up for. All ties to Turkey should simply be halted after this stupid remark.

It's also time for Serbia to introduce a resolution to recognise the genocide committed by Turkey against the Armenians.
(Zoran, 19 March 2010 16:39)

Serbia should do it in nanoseconds, wasting no time.
Same should do many more countries. Let Turk government feel, how "popular" they are.

BTW: the Turkish-Armenian border is artificially sealed. No one can cross it and the cities along the border are completely isolated. This issue should be brought to a larger publicity and Turk government should experience some extra pressure to open that border.

I take it that this is what passers for humour in Turkey these days?

Only two days ago the turkish Priminister threatened to expel 100,000 armenians from Turkey: BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8572934.stm

And as for apologies - I have a little list.

Greece
Cyprus
Syria
Armenia
Iran
Georgia
Albania
Serbia
Croatia
Romania
Moldova
Ukraine
Hungary
Slovenia
Poland
Russia
Malta
Bosnia
Slovakia
Austria
Italy

Anyone left out?

OK, that's the ad-hock list of the countries burned, pillaged and raped by Ottomans. The list is impressive. There are some more bad news. All these countries are either in EU or will be in EU before Turkey (except Syria and Iran). And all of them will want apologies, to a smaller or larger degree. I smell some trouble - unless Turkey's politicians change their attitude.

Very tough list...
(Ataman, 19 March 2010 17:52)


Yeah, you forgot those Kurdish still "in progress" they should apologize to their own population, also!

Dear Ahmet Davutoglu,

Serbia will appologize VERY SOON about Bosnia and little bit later EVEN to Kosovo.

ATAMAN

“ Serbia should do it in nanoseconds, wasting no time.”

I feel the same about the Turks. If you remember : «Чья бы корова мычала …» so I guess they are taking the risk of sponsoring a united front of several peoples with good memories. And Serbia has good chances to be one of them. Turks are not in a position to make such silly statements. Especially taking into consideration the multiple problems they are facing inside and outside the country. Anyway all Turkophobes will be happy to have Serbia being involved.

Sure in Russia we enjoy the developments cause the Turks have to become closer. But in fact we do not expect them to be very sincere towards us. All of them know at whose knee their Empire has been broken and thus stopped to exist. But tactically we need each other. When in Mongolia you must have noticed how they love the Russians. Something you won’t meet in Turkey. But with the current Serbian leaders I don’t think Russia will be involved to the scandal.

Cheers !

Yeah, you forgot those Kurdish still "in progress" they should apologize to their own population, also!
(ZMAJ, 19 March 2010 19:14)

And I forgot FYROM, my bad. Plus Jordan, UAE and Lithuania because they were in personal union with Poland. And coastal parts of Spain.

The list grows..

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When in Mongolia you must have noticed how they love the Russians. Something you won’t meet in Turkey.
(Rote, 19 March 2010 20:15)

Mongolians are pretty much confused tough. At the time I visited it was still the time of "great brotherhood". Since that time some nationalistic voices begun to appear - but with the big part of inteligentsia being married either to Russians or Chinese the things are pretty much under control.

BTW: the "pan-turkic" begun to appear in Mongolia, too. After all, they belong to Altaian sub-group like Turks. And Hungarians belong to Uralian sub-group of Ural-Altaians. Visit youtube and look at all the "grey wolves", Hunnic arrow-corsses and other gems. 10-15 minutes enough, more is just waste of time.

And at least Mongols made the formal apology. Forgotten is the "Golden Horde" not, but the tomahawk is buried.

I think it's time (it was) for our country to recognize GENOCIDE OVER ARMENIANS!!

This is truth and we have human and moral obligation to do that!

Turkey?? Who or what are they? Is this the same country that lives off EU money?
Is Ahmet Davutoglu a Turkish standup comedian? Otherwise just keep quiet and just maybe Turkey’s murderous past may be layed to rest. I now repeat for the tenth time, it sad to see how a country can be so deluded into believing that it’s so important anyone will listen to these rantings.
Please don’t live in fantasy land because Turkey is not that important, it’s third world country.

More collective guilt from the guilty. Turkey should first apologize to the Armenians first, five hundred times over. In that case, it was actually Turkey that perpetrated the crime, not some autonomous second-party. Turkey should apologize to the Kurds and give them their own country too.

ha ha ha
As soon as the Turks started making their "mediation" overtures in the Balkans, I knew they were after something.

Now their true colors come out. Guess what Davutoglu? Stop your finger wagging, and run. Hopefully faster than your great-grandfather did in 1912.

You will not demand anything from Serbia or any other Balkan country that your sick little Empire sapped of anything good for 500 years.

By meddling in European affairs they hope that their little patch of dirt west of Straits will make them a bona fide EU member with all the sexy foreign investment that comes with it.

Think of it as some black people(especially in some American films)addressing each other by the controversial "n" word but disapproving of non-blacks saying it.
(The Confesser, 19 March 2010 23:24)

Thanks for that comment - yes, you achieved a "green" one from me, I rarely ever use + or -.

Oh, yes, it's the "Cyrano and his nose" effect. Only Cyrano is allowed to criticize the length of his nose; others will be introduced to the length of his sword.

It's used all the time and one should be always careful about it... It's a double-standard of course but yours truly does it all the time.

Red Bandit:

Isn't it actually discriminatory for you to have called Turkish people 'turkeys'? But if you think that's discriminatory, I'll confess that one day when my parents had their Turkish friends come over their sons were getting into little mischief and I firmly but in a low tone of voice called one of them a 'naughty Muslim'(it had nothing to do with them having Turkish background.)Finally and though I admit I said something derogatory to one of them I personally feel that when "push comes to shove" that Muslims who make derogatory remarks to other Muslims is less offensive than non-Muslims saying it. Think of it as some black people(especially in some American films)addressing each other by the controversial "n" word but disapproving of non-blacks saying it.

What about Turk apologize to Albanians for givin half of the Albanian territory to ex yugoslavia.

Dear Ahmet Davutoglu,

Serbia will appologize VERY SOON about Bosnia and little bit later EVEN to Kosovo.

bahahahaha how bout he just keep his mouth shut. did these turkeys apologize to Armenia? did these turkeys apologize to Serbs for allowing turks to go fight with the muslim terrorists? no?

"Serbia will appologize VERY SOON about Bosnia and little bit later EVEN to Kosovo.
(PRN, 19 March 2010, 15:47)"

Don't hold your breath waiting for this to happen .... because you will suffocate!

What about Turk apologize to Albanians for givin half of the Albanian territory to ex yugoslavia.

Among the rest..."Davutoglu supports the abolishment of the Schengen visa regime for Bosnian citizens, which was recently abolished for citizens of Serbia, Macedonia and Montenegro.." ?

>>> And who is he to be asked concerning this particular matter? He is maybe having some personal influence about the question in EU? Answer is: his influence is equal to none.
And what about if he tries to get his own Turkey on Schengen visa free list, though it will be mission impossible? Or maybe he implies that millions of the Turks will then try to get Bosnian passports and use the back-door entrance to visa free EU?

Complete statement of his in this article is just one big and major nothing.
And most important, concerning Turkish relation with Serbia: let it stay very far and distant...just like where Anatolia actually is!

This minister certainly talks big for someone from a country with 1915 Armenia hanging over its head! The pot calling the kettle black!

Serbia should also apologize for being raped, tortured, harrassed and enslaved for 500 years by the turks. Also Armenians should apologize to Turkey for having millions of its people massacred by muslim turks.

Who is this joker!

Ahmet Davutoglu has no mandate to represent moslems and he can't put any demand on Serbia.
The time when Sultan was the Caliph is gone and not likely to return.

If anything is - this is an issue to sort out between BiH and Serbia. I hope they will sort it out, the victims should rest in peace. But this is not his damn business.

And as for apologies - I have a little list.

Greece
Cyprus
Syria
Armenia
Iran
Georgia
Albania
Serbia
Croatia
Romania
Moldova
Ukraine
Hungary
Slovenia
Poland
Russia
Malta
Bosnia
Slovakia
Austria
Italy

Anyone left out?

OK, that's the ad-hock list of the countries burned, pillaged and raped by Ottomans. The list is impressive. There are some more bad news. All these countries are either in EU or will be in EU before Turkey (except Syria and Iran). And all of them will want apologies, to a smaller or larger degree. I smell some trouble - unless Turkey's politicians change their attitude.

Very tough list...

The world wants Turkey to apologize for the Armenian Genocide.

Sure, Serbia will apologize after Turkety begs forgiveness from Serbia and Greece for 500 years of occupation and destruction (blood tax), along with a Turkish withdraw of Cyprus and Constantinople. Throw in an apology for a true genocide against Armenia and the continued harassment of it's Kurdish citizens.

Turkey...the name says it all.

Red Bandit:

Isn't it actually discriminatory for you to have called Turkish people 'turkeys'? But if you think that's discriminatory, I'll confess that one day when my parents had their Turkish friends come over their sons were getting into little mischief and I firmly but in a low tone of voice called one of them a 'naughty Muslim'(it had nothing to do with them having Turkish background.)Finally and though I admit I said something derogatory to one of them I personally feel that when "push comes to shove" that Muslims who make derogatory remarks to other Muslims is less offensive than non-Muslims saying it. Think of it as some black people(especially in some American films)addressing each other by the controversial "n" word but disapproving of non-blacks saying it.

The term genocide has, unfortunately, become a political tool with which to bash your opponents. Turkey is in no position to lecture anybody about the miss treatment of ethnic minorities. Up until recently the Kurdish population were forbidden from using their own language, nevermind the deliberate extermination of the Armenian people during the First World war. Turkish meddling in the Balkans is as unwelcome now, as it was in the past.

Here we have yet another muppet show character (like his friend Sejdiu) walking around in circles and spewing political dogma. He obviously does not know or does not want to know that we still remember vividly 500 years of degradation and molestation under Turkish yoke! Who will forget or forgive the famous "blood tax"?
Nobody in the Balkans, thats for sure.

Who cares what third world Turkey thinks?
If they continue down the road of nerving their American puppets Turkey could easily desintegrate,like Yugoslavia Turkey is a state where 20 million Kurds and other minorities live under the yearn of Turkish supression.

Perhaps Turkey should first apologize to Serbia and all Serbians in Eastern Europe. They have several hundred years of atrocities committed against the Serbs to make up for. All ties to Turkey should simply be halted after this stupid remark.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones! The FM should be apologising to the Armenians for the genocide they committed. They should also apologise to the Christian nations of the Balkans for the pain and suffering they inflicted over the course of 500 years.

And as for apologies - I have a little list.

Greece
Cyprus
Syria
Armenia
Iran
Georgia
Albania
Serbia
Croatia
Romania
Moldova
Ukraine
Hungary
Slovenia
Poland
Russia
Malta
Bosnia
Slovakia
Austria
Italy

Anyone left out?

OK, that's the ad-hock list of the countries burned, pillaged and raped by Ottomans. The list is impressive. There are some more bad news. All these countries are either in EU or will be in EU before Turkey (except Syria and Iran). And all of them will want apologies, to a smaller or larger degree. I smell some trouble - unless Turkey's politicians change their attitude.

Very tough list...
(Ataman, 19 March 2010 17:52)


Yeah, you forgot those Kurdish still "in progress" they should apologize to their own population, also!

It shows a breathtaking lack of either irony or perspective that he's making this statement at a time when Turkey is getting hysterical about anyone mentioning the Armenian genocide. It just shows that, unfortunately, ardent nationalists tend to be a bit dim, whatever their nationality.

It's also time for Serbia to introduce a resolution to recognise the genocide committed by Turkey against the Armenians.

It's also time for Serbia to introduce a resolution to recognise the genocide committed by Turkey against the Armenians.
(Zoran, 19 March 2010 16:39)

Serbia should do it in nanoseconds, wasting no time.
Same should do many more countries. Let Turk government feel, how "popular" they are.

BTW: the Turkish-Armenian border is artificially sealed. No one can cross it and the cities along the border are completely isolated. This issue should be brought to a larger publicity and Turk government should experience some extra pressure to open that border.

Turkey?? Who or what are they? Is this the same country that lives off EU money?
Is Ahmet Davutoglu a Turkish standup comedian? Otherwise just keep quiet and just maybe Turkey’s murderous past may be layed to rest. I now repeat for the tenth time, it sad to see how a country can be so deluded into believing that it’s so important anyone will listen to these rantings.
Please don’t live in fantasy land because Turkey is not that important, it’s third world country.

ha ha ha
As soon as the Turks started making their "mediation" overtures in the Balkans, I knew they were after something.

Now their true colors come out. Guess what Davutoglu? Stop your finger wagging, and run. Hopefully faster than your great-grandfather did in 1912.

You will not demand anything from Serbia or any other Balkan country that your sick little Empire sapped of anything good for 500 years.

By meddling in European affairs they hope that their little patch of dirt west of Straits will make them a bona fide EU member with all the sexy foreign investment that comes with it.

ATAMAN

“ Serbia should do it in nanoseconds, wasting no time.”

I feel the same about the Turks. If you remember : «Чья бы корова мычала …» so I guess they are taking the risk of sponsoring a united front of several peoples with good memories. And Serbia has good chances to be one of them. Turks are not in a position to make such silly statements. Especially taking into consideration the multiple problems they are facing inside and outside the country. Anyway all Turkophobes will be happy to have Serbia being involved.

Sure in Russia we enjoy the developments cause the Turks have to become closer. But in fact we do not expect them to be very sincere towards us. All of them know at whose knee their Empire has been broken and thus stopped to exist. But tactically we need each other. When in Mongolia you must have noticed how they love the Russians. Something you won’t meet in Turkey. But with the current Serbian leaders I don’t think Russia will be involved to the scandal.

Cheers !

I take it that this is what passers for humour in Turkey these days?

Only two days ago the turkish Priminister threatened to expel 100,000 armenians from Turkey: BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8572934.stm

Think of it as some black people(especially in some American films)addressing each other by the controversial "n" word but disapproving of non-blacks saying it.
(The Confesser, 19 March 2010 23:24)

Thanks for that comment - yes, you achieved a "green" one from me, I rarely ever use + or -.

Oh, yes, it's the "Cyrano and his nose" effect. Only Cyrano is allowed to criticize the length of his nose; others will be introduced to the length of his sword.

It's used all the time and one should be always careful about it... It's a double-standard of course but yours truly does it all the time.

More collective guilt from the guilty. Turkey should first apologize to the Armenians first, five hundred times over. In that case, it was actually Turkey that perpetrated the crime, not some autonomous second-party. Turkey should apologize to the Kurds and give them their own country too.

I think it's time (it was) for our country to recognize GENOCIDE OVER ARMENIANS!!

This is truth and we have human and moral obligation to do that!

Yeah, you forgot those Kurdish still "in progress" they should apologize to their own population, also!
(ZMAJ, 19 March 2010 19:14)

And I forgot FYROM, my bad. Plus Jordan, UAE and Lithuania because they were in personal union with Poland. And coastal parts of Spain.

The list grows..

---

When in Mongolia you must have noticed how they love the Russians. Something you won’t meet in Turkey.
(Rote, 19 March 2010 20:15)

Mongolians are pretty much confused tough. At the time I visited it was still the time of "great brotherhood". Since that time some nationalistic voices begun to appear - but with the big part of inteligentsia being married either to Russians or Chinese the things are pretty much under control.

BTW: the "pan-turkic" begun to appear in Mongolia, too. After all, they belong to Altaian sub-group like Turks. And Hungarians belong to Uralian sub-group of Ural-Altaians. Visit youtube and look at all the "grey wolves", Hunnic arrow-corsses and other gems. 10-15 minutes enough, more is just waste of time.

And at least Mongols made the formal apology. Forgotten is the "Golden Horde" not, but the tomahawk is buried.