Tadić will not attend Slovenia conference

Looks like "Kosova" is holding back the whole region. I think the meeting should go ahead without Serbia so they can reflect on their misguided US instruction to recognise an illegal entity run by criminals. Do these people think EU membership is more important than Kosovo? Perhaps for the Albanians but certainly not for Serbians.

We can patiently wait for the meeting organised by Spain in Sarajevo. I'm not sure whether UNMIK-Kosovo will attend but it won't really matter. They are used to living in isolation and don't really understand the concept of negotiating a peaceful and prosperous future. Maybe things will change one day but I won't be holding my breath.

If you at the Balkan keep acting this childish there is a big chance we in Western Europe do not want you in the EU at all!

Serbia is a state. Kosovo is a province. Get over it. BASTA!

Serbia is like a yodel on the mountain, shouting: "I am the leader of this region". and is very pleased to hear his own echo.

Looks like "Kosova" is holding back the whole region.

(Zoran)

Oh dear,

I think this is an answer to your everyday question.
Who is m ore important Kosovo or Serbia?

Indeed it is proving my point that Kosovo is far more important than Serbia.
The European powers CANNOT dispelase Kosovo. Who cares for Serbia.

Significance of countries in the region is surfacing. Kosovo is on the top.

This is second time (first being in the inaguration of Croation president).

Egg meets face.

Poor old slovene government. It looks like they can't reconcile reality with their deluded foreign policy pretensions where they like to portray themselves as 'neutral' arbiters to their former Yugoslav colleagues where they are anything but not.

Slovenia was a player in the former Yugoslavia. Now they are not, they just have to get used to being a small country without much clout nor influence (short of the kind of childish blackmail tactics they have used against Croatia over the coastline dispute).

So, are they really that different from their neighbors after all?

"By the way Mr. Tadic put your hand to your foreign minister’s and go to NAM where you belong. Enjoy your journey.
(laki bani, 19 March 2010 14:13) "

Why do you look down on NAM which comprises the world's majority of sovereign countries? Countries who are proud not to be beholden to the whims and fancies of the US and UK. Oh, I forgot! "Kosova" is not a sovereign country under in the eyes of NAM or the UN to begin with!

I am very, very happy that Tadic will not be attending. Let them all sit around the table and look at each other and talk about nothing, or whatever their masters tell them to talk about.
Serbia is once again showing that it is unique, that we are unlike all our neighbours, that we are a free and independent thinking people, and we don't follow the orders of imperialists like all our neighbours do with such zeal.
Cheers!!

Regardless of silence, the conference will take place and Serbia will not be there. End of story.

"Slovenian PM Borut Pahor says an informal regional conference planned for tomorrow in Brdo-pri-Kranju, Slovenia, will be held, "regardless of who will attend"

So it is now to be relegated into being an "informal" conference ..... all the more people should not be wasting their time attending just to bolster Slovenia's ego!

Here is the agenda for tomorrows conference:

1. Coffey and cookies
2. Talks about the weather
3. Milo hands out free cigarettes

5. Hugs and bye bye before the hosts call it a successful meeting

What did I tell you - the loser conclave. Informal conference, HAHAHA. In a desperate attempt to save national pride, slovenia invites a small group over for coffee. I bet the eu sends the deputy vice comissioner in charge of rubber stamps.

My dear Zorane, Serbia is in fact the factor that is opposing the reality with its stubborn stance over something lost long time ago due to (exactly) the same way of behavior by another set of politicians in Serbia. Seems that the justice is prevailing; Serbia is with no doubt loosing (logically) its ground with an unseen anachronism up to now. By the way, upcoming summit in Slovenia will be attended by all relevant Balkans leaders; they have all recognized Kosovo’s independence, eventually they seem to be fed up with irrationalities launched by such a stubborn attitude of an actor with so bad reputation of the recent history.
By the way Mr. Tadic put your hand to your foreign minister’s and go to NAM where you belong. Enjoy your journey.

Oh well, no Serbia. :)

I suppose Thaci and Đukanović can see who has the best smuggling routes in the Balkans.

According to the EUObserver "major western powers want to show Belgrade it is isolated in the region over Kosovo and that things can go on if needed without Serbia."
(Amer, 19 March 2010 16:28)
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I'm sorry to say but that plan failed a decade ago. Republika Srpska ended up prospering instead of Federacija (which had billions pumped into it) while Serbia ended up being the powerhouse of the Balkans.

We will just have to wait for the EU conference organised by Spain to show that it is not Serbia but "Kosova" that is isolated in the region.

Tomorrow we have two arms, two legs and an artificial limb attending without the torso or head. In Sarajevo we'll have the whole body without the artificial limb. It's not difficult to determine which will be successful.

Slovenia was a player in the former Yugoslavia. Now they are not, they just have to get used to being a small country without much clout nor influence (short of the kind of childish blackmail tactics they have used against Croatia over the coastline dispute).

So, are they really that different from their neighbors after all?
(Aleks, 19 March 2010 14:33)

They can stop you dead on the track to EU . Of course Serbia can become a member of Russian Federation as the smallest province. I mean you are almost there, a Russian base at Nish and Gazprom has already bought half of your country. Enjoy.

Bravo Tadic, finally showing some backbone!!!!

"They can stop you dead on the track to EU. Of course Serbia can become a member of Russian Federation as the smallest province. I mean you are almost there, a Russian base at Nish and Gazprom has already bought half of your country. Enjoy."
Bekim

They can stop us dead on the track to EU! Why would they do that? Because we won't recognize the theft of Kosovo? What does that say about the EU. "Do as we say or you can't join"? Why should Serbia join if it can't have an opinion and think freely? I can tell that albanians don't have a clue about what democracy means. Your way of dealing with things is through intimidation and threats. Look at the Serb minority in Kosovo. If they don't accept albanian rule they will be harrassed and killed. No understanding for their position what so ever. That's why there can never be peace with albanians.

“… Milo Đukanović is already in Slovenia”

Strange as it is but these few words irritate me most. He is a kinda Yushenko whose main goal is to quarrel for long the two brother peoples. Milo’s main problem is that Serbs let them go without a bloodshed. So he creates artificial antagonisms. He is an amateur provoker who can reach his goal only if Serbs will help him to do so. If I were you I would certainly take the successful Russian strategy used during Yushenko. Serbs should patient to wait for the Montenegrins to wake up. Then the Ukrainian scenario will come true in Montenegro. As you know Yushenko failed to split the two brother nations and instead received a split inside the Ukrainian nation. Desperation is not the Serbian way and I hope you are smart enough to work out strategy against this provocative agent of influence. Milo is more dangerous than Hashim & the gang. Ad hoc a Russian song runs :

“На врагов всегда найдем управу ,
Как бы их судьба не берегла …“

They can stop you dead on the track to EU . Of course Serbia can become a member of Russian Federation as the smallest province. I mean you are almost there, a Russian base at Nish and Gazprom has already bought half of your country. Enjoy.
(Bekim, 19 March 2010 15:49)

No they can't. By the time Serbia is ready to join no single EU member state will be able to block the entry to Serbia. It may have been usefully crude blackmail against Croatia (a not very 'European' way of resolving issues with ones neighbor), but if Slovenia values it business with Serbia then the sword can swing both ways not to mention the massive pressure Slovenia would come under from other EU states. No Serbia in the EU = no stability pact = big mess for EU policy in the Balkans. It is not as if Bg or Ro are leading the region in any sphere, and Greece is neutered.

BTW, has Slovenia yet prosecuted that guy for murder who strangled the JNA conscript in public back before the war? The last thing I heard was that despite clear v/t evidence nothing has happened. Of course, Slovenia being an 'favorite' get a free pass on this and its other human rights abuses. European values indeed.

PM Thaci just departed from Prishtina International Airport.
(Kosova-USA, 19 March 2010 17:05)
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I hope Thači makes it on time. His plane doesn't look so fast. Check http://i40.tinypic.com/dy2ckj.jpg

Đukanović is waiting for him.

(Kosova-USA, 19 March 2010 17:05)

You said Pristina international airport? Joke of the month! It is by far the most filthy and dirty airport I have been to next to Dhaka. Maybe you know that Pristina AP lost their licence a couple of years ago when the air-controllers left the tower to strike. Only after Unmik intervention the licence was saved so people can leave and come to this black hole called Kosovo to try to make it work there. But, Unmik was not greeted at all in Kosovo. I would gladly bet 10000 euro that after the ICJ verdict, the fun part for Kosovo is over for good. Wait and see.

Hehe, so now it is just informal meeting! Cccc, run Pahor run!

The conference was held in Belgrade yesterday and today.

Of course that Van Rompuy will not attend the "conference".

"...Here is the agenda for tomorrows conference:

1. Coffey and cookies
2. Talks about the weather
3. Milo hands out free cigarettes

5. Hugs and bye bye before the hosts call it a successful meeting
(Mikael C, 19 March 2010 16:02) ..."

>>> Haha Mike, great one.

But what happened with 4? Must be censorship.
So lets guess on our own then:
4. Tango of death: Ms. Kosor and Thaci The Snake?

Some better suggestions? Please apply with your posts.

PRN: "The European powers CANNOT dispelase Kosovo"

Thank you PRN, laugh-terapy is good for the hearth, really, thank you.

Why is the host country(s) so concerned about Serbias participation?

I have an idea for tomorrows conference! How about if the participants make decisions and then force Serbia to accept them? It worked well in the past so I'm sure it will work this time around.

well done, if it isn´t a promise of tadic like in pre-elections time ...

now the self-declared leaders & superpowers slovenia and croatia can have a chit-chat with the self-declared sultans of pristina, and later, at the real eu-w.balkans conference in sarajevo, they can listen to eu and serbia without their buddies & economic allies from occupied parts of serbias province ...

the sultans saved face, the twins-in-crime slovenia and croatia look important, and serbia stays adault ...

a win-win for everyone, of course on different levels, but thats usual in win-win-situations ... :-)

ok, i was lieing, i don´t think that slovenia will ever again in the next time get a chance to organize something it can´t handle, but restbosnia can ....

while croatia on the other side is always a winner, 20 years secure eu-candidate (only turks show less brain being 50 years candidate), always there when the important guys meet (i guess the domestic know-how of serving worse coffee and even worser food at the adriatic is helpful at conferences), and still dreaming of an entry before serbia (as if serbia will ever become eu-member).

it´s the little successes that make you happy i guess ...

on the other side: boy, must that hurt, hm? slovenia, bulgaria, romania did attack and betray serbia, but they didn´t genozide the people of neghbouring states like krajina, they didn´t start wars, slovenia grabbed all of yougoslavias money first, but still croatia is something like europes turkey ...

the only hope they have: they will enter before albania, only because of the fact that albania never will enter eu ...

Tadic was only asking for a sign that would hide the ugliness from interpols most wanted list.
Now the rest of Europe is saying they are not going for the same reason..
Hide criminals..

Some Serbs still believe that Serbia is the center of the World. Don´t you realize that nobody cares about Serbia?
(Poster, 19 March 2010 18:48)

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no poster not the center of the world but it is the center of the balkans and according to kosovo recognitions over 70% of the world cares and agrees with serbia..

I mean you are almost there, a Russian base at Nish and Gazprom has already bought half of your country. Enjoy.
(Bekim, 19 March 2010 15:49)

And my mom is the occupation force. Be careful what you say - more tough guys than UÇK had to run from her for cover.

"that conference is done with. no tadic or serbia means the rest will all be looking at their watches for a time to leave.."


Some Serbs still believe that Serbia is the center of the World. Don´t you realize that nobody cares about Serbia?

"The Serbian leader will be absent because...". Perhaps serbia wants to become an integral part of Russian Federation, so in this case, Russia will represent Serbian interests also!

Every country has it's right to choose to attend at the conference.
This is just bad for you, not for any other countries.

That would be a very poor judgement of the Serbian leader. When a leader of one country makes a poor judgment that he should not blame the other for the consequences of actions/inaction.

what a wasteful farse this conference has become ..a lead ballon going nowhere !!

but i blame Tadic on this one he had to have known what the sentiment was going to be in that meeting of "the former yugo crew"

that conference is done with. no tadic or serbia means the rest will all be looking at their watches for a time to leave..

4. Who can do the best impression of Tito

News update,

PM Thaci just departed from Prishtina International Airport. I wonder if President Tadiq will take a speed boat to head towards Slovenia.

Slovenian PM Borut Pahor said that the conference planned for tomorrow in Brdo-pri-Kranju, Slovenia, will be held, "regardless of who will attend".

Maybe Borut can invite Borat, it's still not to late.

http://www.canmag.com/images/front/moviesetc/borat.jpg

Hehe, so now it is just informal meeting!
(TITO, 19 March 2010 16:12)

Formal or informal is a formality indeed. The fact that regional leaders (BH included) will be treated just as Kosovo head of state speaks volumes. Tadic may not be there but the birth-country will, and I'm not talking about Tito's Yugo but BiH.

This is the Emperors' clothes all over again.

The EU and EC representatives are not attending, Spain is not attending, and Serbia is not attending... and the Slovenian PM is quoting from Annie: "Tomorrow will be another day".

Doesn't that send any signals to those celebrating?

The international conference which will matter will be under Spain's watch, and they will abide by Resolution 1244, insisting that if Kosovo attends it is referred to as Kosovo-UNMIK.

That means that Zoran's wonderful plane will stay grounded on that occasion, which is the relevant and important event.


Mike C:

Here is the agenda for tomorrows conference:

1. Coffey and cookies
2. Talks about the weather
3. Milo hands out free cigarettes

5. Hugs and bye bye before the hosts call it a successful meeting
(Mikael C, 19 March 2010 16:02)

That is very funny. There will be lots of mutual backslapping and a statement released which paraphrased says: "We don't care that Serbia didn't come to our party, we had a great time anyway and talked about lots of very important things. It was so important that we are now going to issue a press release containing lots of strong statements."

I have to express my unhappiness towards our leaders who have no vision but just empty talk.
(Unhappy Serbian, 20 March 2010 05:05)

Hey Arben Hoxhić,

You have both Sali Berisha and Hashish Thaçi there meeting with Borat, I mean, sorry, Borut -no shortage of the "leaders".

Not sure about Borut - but I think, Borat is a better leader than the other two.

http://skinneygenes.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/borat-flag.jpg

So maybe you are right.

no poster not the center of the world but it is the center of the balkans and according to kosovo recognitions over 70% of the world cares and agrees with serbia..
(benzo, 19 March 2010)

What about the recognitions in the Balkans?

"Why is the host country(s) so concerned about Serbias participation?

(Mikael C, 19 March 2010 15:35) "

This was intended to be a West Balkan conference - everyone was invited, it was intended to demonstrate that the region is ready to join the EU. According to the EUObserver "major western powers want to show Belgrade it is isolated in the region over Kosovo and that things can go on if needed without Serbia." Coming up with some clever formula that would allow both sides to attend would have been a feather in the organizers' caps, of course, but at least they will have demonstrated that they made every conceivable effort to accommodate Serbia, which should allow Rompuy to attend.

Some Serbs still believe that Serbia is the center of the World. Don´t you realize that nobody cares about Serbia?
(Poster, 19 March 2010 18:48)

Of course we're not the center of the world.., but we've changed this "center" in our past and changed the destiny of empires.. This is about to happen again.

No, we can not realize "that nobody cares about Serbia" and why should we?!

The upcoming powers and "empire candidates" are supporting us, why should we understand that? There's 100 and more countries didn't "fell down" or accepted "the cookie" in someone's else favor.., there's no reason to believe in no ones care about Serbia.

Only the egoist and ignorant one- who hates Serbia, or doesn't care himself, can believe that.

Day off for Tadic

Ok we all know that one between Tadic and Thaci have to remain home..so no news at all ...very interesting will be the Sarajevo meeting because Spain has Eu presidency and MUST DECIDE between what he would like (No thaci & Seidu and red carpet to Clooney) and what EU majority would like (inviting Seidu & Thaci and Clooney for a nice picture )...

This is not a big deal. Tadic is right not to attend.

Serbia will probably boycott many other meetings in the future - but it will be necessary.

Meetings that have to be made with Serbia will just be made elsewhere - often outside of any publicised forum. Serbia is too significant a player for the issues to go unaddressed.

The effect of conferences involving a mis-represented Kosovo will therefore diminish. It won't be worth the bother.

Unfortunately our leaders are stuck in a hole and do not know how to get out of there.
We are getting more and more isolated because we do not have any leader that has a clear vision of future.
Our foreign minister Jeremic goes to Oman or Congo, but fails to meet with neighbors. If we dont have good relationships with our neighbors then what good will Oman bring to us?
I have to express my unhappiness towards our leaders who have no vision but just empty talk.

Mike C and Kate,

Tell us what would agenda would have looked like if Serbia would have attended the meeting?

No coffees, no teas, no cookes, but just talk, talk and talk about Serbia's sovereignity over Kosovo/a?

That would have been very boring...

Baa, baa, black sheep
Have you any wool?
Yes sir, yes sir,
Three bags full,but
None for the jester,
None for the dame,
And for damn sure none-- for the little boy
Who lives down the lane.

baa

i do love the idea of the illyrians back together again,without our bad evil serbia!it is already the road we use to join Kosovo or albania!

To: President Boris Tadić
From: Micheal

Thank you sincerely.
Things are looking up.

MB,Ireland

What about the recognitions in the Balkans?
(Zoti, 19 March 2010 23:00)
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the micro city states in the balkans eg:(mac,mont even BG)are powerless and will do as told ALWAYS.. albania and turkey ...i dont think we need to say anything about that..the recognitions in the balkans are not as impressive as you may think they are !!

independent thinking people, and we don't follow the orders of imperialists like all our neighbours do with such zeal.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 19 March 2010 18:32)

Open your eyes. You claim Kosova is yours and imperialists are all over the place there. Not only you follow orders but you can't do anything to kick them out. Nothing at all. If they wanna stay, they stay. Its been like that for a decade now. When they feel like leaving they'll leave. I don't see Croatia having foreign troops inside, I don't see FYROM, I don't see Montenegro, I don't see Albania, I don't see Slovenia having foreign troops. Not only that but these are the same countries that bombed you. Yet they're there and you can't do anything about it. So what is there to be proud of. They do as they please and you can't do anything about it.

Comment: Don´t you realize that nobody cares about Serbia?
(Poster, 19 March 2010 18:48)

Do you realize, that Kosovo loose more and more support from Intenational Community, because you are not able to fight against corruption, protect war-"heros?"/-criminal, insult investors?

Sorry Kosovo you are on the best way for an failed state.

(torontonian, 20 March 2010 01:51)

You value your life very little. Don’t you know Serbia controls Kosovo now; no industry; no jobs; no investment unless Serbia recognizes an independent Kosovo.
It’s 12 years since freedom and democracy came to the Albanians, what has changed???? B92 recently reported RS MUP arresting some Serbs for smuggling Albanians to the EU. They are all trying to get out seeking a better life.

Mr Tadic he has rights to do anything he wants he can stay home if he wants or he can go dinner together with jeremic boy so they can talk about next smart move to make,,,,

(Kosova-USA, 19 March 2010 17:05)

You said Pristina international airport? Joke of the month! It is by far the most filthy and dirty airport I have been to next to Dhaka. Maybe you know that Pristina AP lost their licence a couple of years ago when the air-controllers left the tower to strike. Only after Unmik intervention the licence was saved so people can leave and come to this black hole called Kosovo to try to make it work there. But, Unmik was not greeted at all in Kosovo. I would gladly bet 10000 euro that after the ICJ verdict, the fun part for Kosovo is over for good. Wait and see.
(Staff, 19 March 2010 20:12) I bet you with my life NO serbian will ever never have control over Kosovo and about the black hole you calling kosovo !!!! hey one thing Kosovo didn't produce as serbia did one of most NOTORIOUS people of 21 centiury ..I'm very proud being from Kosova

Looks like Serbia has, once again, chosen to cut off its nose to spite its face. And, to add insult to injury, no one seemed to notice. However, the meeting in Slovenia is long overdue and there are many important items common to all the attending countries that needed to be addressed.

"Fortunately, the people on this forum that speak most vociferously are from the diaspora. I need not mention their names, but they are paid by the government and do not represent the average Serb. Most Serbs have given up on Kosova for the lost cause that it is. Their only concern is a job and a better economy so they can provide for their children.

btw, Not that it matters since it is common knowledge, but Vuk Jeremic's Grandfather was Muslim. Any elementary search will bear this out. What is amusing is that Vuk has been traveling to many Muslim countries to try and prevent them from recognizing Kosova. He apparently mentions his family background in hopes of giving the impression that he is pro-Muslim. Meanwhile, when he visits non-Muslim countries he warns them of creating another "Muslim state". The irony is that most Albanians are no more Muslim than Vuk. Albanians are only culturally Muslim, as most people who have visited Kosova know."
(Michael R., 21 March 2010 20:06)
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Wow, what can one say to this? Please provide some evidence that we in diaspora are paid by the government to write here.
How do you know what Vuk says to the people he talks to on his trips? Are you watching over his shoulder and listening to what is said? If this is the case then you must be paid to accompany him everywhere.

Are you sure your name is not Hazel?

Open your eyes. You claim Kosova is yours and imperialists are all over the place there. Not only you follow orders but you can't do anything to kick them out. Nothing at all. If they wanna stay, they stay. Its been like that for a decade now. When they feel like leaving they'll leave. I don't see Croatia having foreign troops inside, I don't see FYROM, I don't see Montenegro, I don't see Albania, I don't see Slovenia having foreign troops. Not only that but these are the same countries that bombed you. Yet they're there and you can't do anything about it. So what is there to be proud of. They do as they please and you can't do anything about it.
(johny, 20 March 2010 06:42)

Johny,

Right on! And, may I add, the Serbs are anything but independent, they do whatever the West orders. Furthermore, they have become cozy with the Russians lately, which is never a good idea, in hopes of playing them off against the West. The only problem with that is, Tadic is no Tito. In addition, selling Russia a country's most valued asset, i.e. the oil refineries in Nis, will only come back to haunt Serbia.

Fortunately, the people on this forum that speak most vociferously are from the diaspora. I need not mention their names, but they are paid by the government and do not represent the average Serb. Most Serbs have given up on Kosova for the lost cause that it is. Their only concern is a job and a better economy so they can provide for their children.

btw, Not that it matters since it is common knowledge, but Vuk Jeremic's Grandfather was Muslim. Any elementary search will bear this out. What is amusing is that Vuk has been traveling to many Muslim countries to try and prevent them from recognizing Kosova. He apparently mentions his family background in hopes of giving the impression that he is pro-Muslim. Meanwhile, when he visits non-Muslim countries he warns them of creating another "Muslim state". The irony is that most Albanians are no more Muslim than Vuk. Albanians are only culturally Muslim, as most people who have visited Kosova know.

If you at the Balkan keep acting this childish there is a big chance we in Western Europe do not want you in the EU at all!

Serbia is a state. Kosovo is a province. Get over it. BASTA!

Regardless of silence, the conference will take place and Serbia will not be there. End of story.

Looks like "Kosova" is holding back the whole region.

(Zoran)

Oh dear,

I think this is an answer to your everyday question.
Who is m ore important Kosovo or Serbia?

Indeed it is proving my point that Kosovo is far more important than Serbia.
The European powers CANNOT dispelase Kosovo. Who cares for Serbia.

Significance of countries in the region is surfacing. Kosovo is on the top.

This is second time (first being in the inaguration of Croation president).

My dear Zorane, Serbia is in fact the factor that is opposing the reality with its stubborn stance over something lost long time ago due to (exactly) the same way of behavior by another set of politicians in Serbia. Seems that the justice is prevailing; Serbia is with no doubt loosing (logically) its ground with an unseen anachronism up to now. By the way, upcoming summit in Slovenia will be attended by all relevant Balkans leaders; they have all recognized Kosovo’s independence, eventually they seem to be fed up with irrationalities launched by such a stubborn attitude of an actor with so bad reputation of the recent history.
By the way Mr. Tadic put your hand to your foreign minister’s and go to NAM where you belong. Enjoy your journey.

Looks like "Kosova" is holding back the whole region. I think the meeting should go ahead without Serbia so they can reflect on their misguided US instruction to recognise an illegal entity run by criminals. Do these people think EU membership is more important than Kosovo? Perhaps for the Albanians but certainly not for Serbians.

We can patiently wait for the meeting organised by Spain in Sarajevo. I'm not sure whether UNMIK-Kosovo will attend but it won't really matter. They are used to living in isolation and don't really understand the concept of negotiating a peaceful and prosperous future. Maybe things will change one day but I won't be holding my breath.

Serbia is like a yodel on the mountain, shouting: "I am the leader of this region". and is very pleased to hear his own echo.

Slovenia was a player in the former Yugoslavia. Now they are not, they just have to get used to being a small country without much clout nor influence (short of the kind of childish blackmail tactics they have used against Croatia over the coastline dispute).

So, are they really that different from their neighbors after all?
(Aleks, 19 March 2010 14:33)

They can stop you dead on the track to EU . Of course Serbia can become a member of Russian Federation as the smallest province. I mean you are almost there, a Russian base at Nish and Gazprom has already bought half of your country. Enjoy.

News update,

PM Thaci just departed from Prishtina International Airport. I wonder if President Tadiq will take a speed boat to head towards Slovenia.

According to the EUObserver "major western powers want to show Belgrade it is isolated in the region over Kosovo and that things can go on if needed without Serbia."
(Amer, 19 March 2010 16:28)
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I'm sorry to say but that plan failed a decade ago. Republika Srpska ended up prospering instead of Federacija (which had billions pumped into it) while Serbia ended up being the powerhouse of the Balkans.

We will just have to wait for the EU conference organised by Spain to show that it is not Serbia but "Kosova" that is isolated in the region.

Tomorrow we have two arms, two legs and an artificial limb attending without the torso or head. In Sarajevo we'll have the whole body without the artificial limb. It's not difficult to determine which will be successful.

"that conference is done with. no tadic or serbia means the rest will all be looking at their watches for a time to leave.."


Some Serbs still believe that Serbia is the center of the World. Don´t you realize that nobody cares about Serbia?

Why is the host country(s) so concerned about Serbias participation?

I have an idea for tomorrows conference! How about if the participants make decisions and then force Serbia to accept them? It worked well in the past so I'm sure it will work this time around.

"Why is the host country(s) so concerned about Serbias participation?

(Mikael C, 19 March 2010 15:35) "

This was intended to be a West Balkan conference - everyone was invited, it was intended to demonstrate that the region is ready to join the EU. According to the EUObserver "major western powers want to show Belgrade it is isolated in the region over Kosovo and that things can go on if needed without Serbia." Coming up with some clever formula that would allow both sides to attend would have been a feather in the organizers' caps, of course, but at least they will have demonstrated that they made every conceivable effort to accommodate Serbia, which should allow Rompuy to attend.

I am very, very happy that Tadic will not be attending. Let them all sit around the table and look at each other and talk about nothing, or whatever their masters tell them to talk about.
Serbia is once again showing that it is unique, that we are unlike all our neighbours, that we are a free and independent thinking people, and we don't follow the orders of imperialists like all our neighbours do with such zeal.
Cheers!!

"By the way Mr. Tadic put your hand to your foreign minister’s and go to NAM where you belong. Enjoy your journey.
(laki bani, 19 March 2010 14:13) "

Why do you look down on NAM which comprises the world's majority of sovereign countries? Countries who are proud not to be beholden to the whims and fancies of the US and UK. Oh, I forgot! "Kosova" is not a sovereign country under in the eyes of NAM or the UN to begin with!

Egg meets face.

Poor old slovene government. It looks like they can't reconcile reality with their deluded foreign policy pretensions where they like to portray themselves as 'neutral' arbiters to their former Yugoslav colleagues where they are anything but not.

Slovenia was a player in the former Yugoslavia. Now they are not, they just have to get used to being a small country without much clout nor influence (short of the kind of childish blackmail tactics they have used against Croatia over the coastline dispute).

So, are they really that different from their neighbors after all?

"Slovenian PM Borut Pahor says an informal regional conference planned for tomorrow in Brdo-pri-Kranju, Slovenia, will be held, "regardless of who will attend"

So it is now to be relegated into being an "informal" conference ..... all the more people should not be wasting their time attending just to bolster Slovenia's ego!

"The Serbian leader will be absent because...". Perhaps serbia wants to become an integral part of Russian Federation, so in this case, Russia will represent Serbian interests also!

What did I tell you - the loser conclave. Informal conference, HAHAHA. In a desperate attempt to save national pride, slovenia invites a small group over for coffee. I bet the eu sends the deputy vice comissioner in charge of rubber stamps.

Oh well, no Serbia. :)

I suppose Thaci and Đukanović can see who has the best smuggling routes in the Balkans.

Here is the agenda for tomorrows conference:

1. Coffey and cookies
2. Talks about the weather
3. Milo hands out free cigarettes

5. Hugs and bye bye before the hosts call it a successful meeting

(Kosova-USA, 19 March 2010 17:05)

You said Pristina international airport? Joke of the month! It is by far the most filthy and dirty airport I have been to next to Dhaka. Maybe you know that Pristina AP lost their licence a couple of years ago when the air-controllers left the tower to strike. Only after Unmik intervention the licence was saved so people can leave and come to this black hole called Kosovo to try to make it work there. But, Unmik was not greeted at all in Kosovo. I would gladly bet 10000 euro that after the ICJ verdict, the fun part for Kosovo is over for good. Wait and see.

That would be a very poor judgement of the Serbian leader. When a leader of one country makes a poor judgment that he should not blame the other for the consequences of actions/inaction.

Unfortunately our leaders are stuck in a hole and do not know how to get out of there.
We are getting more and more isolated because we do not have any leader that has a clear vision of future.
Our foreign minister Jeremic goes to Oman or Congo, but fails to meet with neighbors. If we dont have good relationships with our neighbors then what good will Oman bring to us?
I have to express my unhappiness towards our leaders who have no vision but just empty talk.

well done, if it isn´t a promise of tadic like in pre-elections time ...

now the self-declared leaders & superpowers slovenia and croatia can have a chit-chat with the self-declared sultans of pristina, and later, at the real eu-w.balkans conference in sarajevo, they can listen to eu and serbia without their buddies & economic allies from occupied parts of serbias province ...

the sultans saved face, the twins-in-crime slovenia and croatia look important, and serbia stays adault ...

a win-win for everyone, of course on different levels, but thats usual in win-win-situations ... :-)

ok, i was lieing, i don´t think that slovenia will ever again in the next time get a chance to organize something it can´t handle, but restbosnia can ....

while croatia on the other side is always a winner, 20 years secure eu-candidate (only turks show less brain being 50 years candidate), always there when the important guys meet (i guess the domestic know-how of serving worse coffee and even worser food at the adriatic is helpful at conferences), and still dreaming of an entry before serbia (as if serbia will ever become eu-member).

it´s the little successes that make you happy i guess ...

on the other side: boy, must that hurt, hm? slovenia, bulgaria, romania did attack and betray serbia, but they didn´t genozide the people of neghbouring states like krajina, they didn´t start wars, slovenia grabbed all of yougoslavias money first, but still croatia is something like europes turkey ...

the only hope they have: they will enter before albania, only because of the fact that albania never will enter eu ...

Bravo Tadic, finally showing some backbone!!!!

"...Here is the agenda for tomorrows conference:

1. Coffey and cookies
2. Talks about the weather
3. Milo hands out free cigarettes

5. Hugs and bye bye before the hosts call it a successful meeting
(Mikael C, 19 March 2010 16:02) ..."

>>> Haha Mike, great one.

But what happened with 4? Must be censorship.
So lets guess on our own then:
4. Tango of death: Ms. Kosor and Thaci The Snake?

Some better suggestions? Please apply with your posts.

(Kosova-USA, 19 March 2010 17:05)

You said Pristina international airport? Joke of the month! It is by far the most filthy and dirty airport I have been to next to Dhaka. Maybe you know that Pristina AP lost their licence a couple of years ago when the air-controllers left the tower to strike. Only after Unmik intervention the licence was saved so people can leave and come to this black hole called Kosovo to try to make it work there. But, Unmik was not greeted at all in Kosovo. I would gladly bet 10000 euro that after the ICJ verdict, the fun part for Kosovo is over for good. Wait and see.
(Staff, 19 March 2010 20:12) I bet you with my life NO serbian will ever never have control over Kosovo and about the black hole you calling kosovo !!!! hey one thing Kosovo didn't produce as serbia did one of most NOTORIOUS people of 21 centiury ..I'm very proud being from Kosova

Hehe, so now it is just informal meeting!
(TITO, 19 March 2010 16:12)

Formal or informal is a formality indeed. The fact that regional leaders (BH included) will be treated just as Kosovo head of state speaks volumes. Tadic may not be there but the birth-country will, and I'm not talking about Tito's Yugo but BiH.

“… Milo Đukanović is already in Slovenia”

Strange as it is but these few words irritate me most. He is a kinda Yushenko whose main goal is to quarrel for long the two brother peoples. Milo’s main problem is that Serbs let them go without a bloodshed. So he creates artificial antagonisms. He is an amateur provoker who can reach his goal only if Serbs will help him to do so. If I were you I would certainly take the successful Russian strategy used during Yushenko. Serbs should patient to wait for the Montenegrins to wake up. Then the Ukrainian scenario will come true in Montenegro. As you know Yushenko failed to split the two brother nations and instead received a split inside the Ukrainian nation. Desperation is not the Serbian way and I hope you are smart enough to work out strategy against this provocative agent of influence. Milo is more dangerous than Hashim & the gang. Ad hoc a Russian song runs :

“На врагов всегда найдем управу ,
Как бы их судьба не берегла …“

i do love the idea of the illyrians back together again,without our bad evil serbia!it is already the road we use to join Kosovo or albania!

what a wasteful farse this conference has become ..a lead ballon going nowhere !!

but i blame Tadic on this one he had to have known what the sentiment was going to be in that meeting of "the former yugo crew"

that conference is done with. no tadic or serbia means the rest will all be looking at their watches for a time to leave..

PM Thaci just departed from Prishtina International Airport.
(Kosova-USA, 19 March 2010 17:05)
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I hope Thači makes it on time. His plane doesn't look so fast. Check http://i40.tinypic.com/dy2ckj.jpg

Đukanović is waiting for him.

Every country has it's right to choose to attend at the conference.
This is just bad for you, not for any other countries.

PRN: "The European powers CANNOT dispelase Kosovo"

Thank you PRN, laugh-terapy is good for the hearth, really, thank you.

Some Serbs still believe that Serbia is the center of the World. Don´t you realize that nobody cares about Serbia?
(Poster, 19 March 2010 18:48)

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no poster not the center of the world but it is the center of the balkans and according to kosovo recognitions over 70% of the world cares and agrees with serbia..

Looks like Serbia has, once again, chosen to cut off its nose to spite its face. And, to add insult to injury, no one seemed to notice. However, the meeting in Slovenia is long overdue and there are many important items common to all the attending countries that needed to be addressed.

Ok we all know that one between Tadic and Thaci have to remain home..so no news at all ...very interesting will be the Sarajevo meeting because Spain has Eu presidency and MUST DECIDE between what he would like (No thaci & Seidu and red carpet to Clooney) and what EU majority would like (inviting Seidu & Thaci and Clooney for a nice picture )...

Hehe, so now it is just informal meeting! Cccc, run Pahor run!

independent thinking people, and we don't follow the orders of imperialists like all our neighbours do with such zeal.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 19 March 2010 18:32)

Open your eyes. You claim Kosova is yours and imperialists are all over the place there. Not only you follow orders but you can't do anything to kick them out. Nothing at all. If they wanna stay, they stay. Its been like that for a decade now. When they feel like leaving they'll leave. I don't see Croatia having foreign troops inside, I don't see FYROM, I don't see Montenegro, I don't see Albania, I don't see Slovenia having foreign troops. Not only that but these are the same countries that bombed you. Yet they're there and you can't do anything about it. So what is there to be proud of. They do as they please and you can't do anything about it.

"They can stop you dead on the track to EU. Of course Serbia can become a member of Russian Federation as the smallest province. I mean you are almost there, a Russian base at Nish and Gazprom has already bought half of your country. Enjoy."
Bekim

They can stop us dead on the track to EU! Why would they do that? Because we won't recognize the theft of Kosovo? What does that say about the EU. "Do as we say or you can't join"? Why should Serbia join if it can't have an opinion and think freely? I can tell that albanians don't have a clue about what democracy means. Your way of dealing with things is through intimidation and threats. Look at the Serb minority in Kosovo. If they don't accept albanian rule they will be harrassed and killed. No understanding for their position what so ever. That's why there can never be peace with albanians.

They can stop you dead on the track to EU . Of course Serbia can become a member of Russian Federation as the smallest province. I mean you are almost there, a Russian base at Nish and Gazprom has already bought half of your country. Enjoy.
(Bekim, 19 March 2010 15:49)

No they can't. By the time Serbia is ready to join no single EU member state will be able to block the entry to Serbia. It may have been usefully crude blackmail against Croatia (a not very 'European' way of resolving issues with ones neighbor), but if Slovenia values it business with Serbia then the sword can swing both ways not to mention the massive pressure Slovenia would come under from other EU states. No Serbia in the EU = no stability pact = big mess for EU policy in the Balkans. It is not as if Bg or Ro are leading the region in any sphere, and Greece is neutered.

BTW, has Slovenia yet prosecuted that guy for murder who strangled the JNA conscript in public back before the war? The last thing I heard was that despite clear v/t evidence nothing has happened. Of course, Slovenia being an 'favorite' get a free pass on this and its other human rights abuses. European values indeed.

Slovenian PM Borut Pahor said that the conference planned for tomorrow in Brdo-pri-Kranju, Slovenia, will be held, "regardless of who will attend".

Maybe Borut can invite Borat, it's still not to late.

http://www.canmag.com/images/front/moviesetc/borat.jpg

no poster not the center of the world but it is the center of the balkans and according to kosovo recognitions over 70% of the world cares and agrees with serbia..
(benzo, 19 March 2010)

What about the recognitions in the Balkans?

I mean you are almost there, a Russian base at Nish and Gazprom has already bought half of your country. Enjoy.
(Bekim, 19 March 2010 15:49)

And my mom is the occupation force. Be careful what you say - more tough guys than UÇK had to run from her for cover.

Some Serbs still believe that Serbia is the center of the World. Don´t you realize that nobody cares about Serbia?
(Poster, 19 March 2010 18:48)

Of course we're not the center of the world.., but we've changed this "center" in our past and changed the destiny of empires.. This is about to happen again.

No, we can not realize "that nobody cares about Serbia" and why should we?!

The upcoming powers and "empire candidates" are supporting us, why should we understand that? There's 100 and more countries didn't "fell down" or accepted "the cookie" in someone's else favor.., there's no reason to believe in no ones care about Serbia.

Only the egoist and ignorant one- who hates Serbia, or doesn't care himself, can believe that.

Mike C and Kate,

Tell us what would agenda would have looked like if Serbia would have attended the meeting?

No coffees, no teas, no cookes, but just talk, talk and talk about Serbia's sovereignity over Kosovo/a?

That would have been very boring...

Open your eyes. You claim Kosova is yours and imperialists are all over the place there. Not only you follow orders but you can't do anything to kick them out. Nothing at all. If they wanna stay, they stay. Its been like that for a decade now. When they feel like leaving they'll leave. I don't see Croatia having foreign troops inside, I don't see FYROM, I don't see Montenegro, I don't see Albania, I don't see Slovenia having foreign troops. Not only that but these are the same countries that bombed you. Yet they're there and you can't do anything about it. So what is there to be proud of. They do as they please and you can't do anything about it.
(johny, 20 March 2010 06:42)

Johny,

Right on! And, may I add, the Serbs are anything but independent, they do whatever the West orders. Furthermore, they have become cozy with the Russians lately, which is never a good idea, in hopes of playing them off against the West. The only problem with that is, Tadic is no Tito. In addition, selling Russia a country's most valued asset, i.e. the oil refineries in Nis, will only come back to haunt Serbia.

Fortunately, the people on this forum that speak most vociferously are from the diaspora. I need not mention their names, but they are paid by the government and do not represent the average Serb. Most Serbs have given up on Kosova for the lost cause that it is. Their only concern is a job and a better economy so they can provide for their children.

btw, Not that it matters since it is common knowledge, but Vuk Jeremic's Grandfather was Muslim. Any elementary search will bear this out. What is amusing is that Vuk has been traveling to many Muslim countries to try and prevent them from recognizing Kosova. He apparently mentions his family background in hopes of giving the impression that he is pro-Muslim. Meanwhile, when he visits non-Muslim countries he warns them of creating another "Muslim state". The irony is that most Albanians are no more Muslim than Vuk. Albanians are only culturally Muslim, as most people who have visited Kosova know.

The conference was held in Belgrade yesterday and today.

Of course that Van Rompuy will not attend the "conference".

Mr Tadic he has rights to do anything he wants he can stay home if he wants or he can go dinner together with jeremic boy so they can talk about next smart move to make,,,,

This is not a big deal. Tadic is right not to attend.

Serbia will probably boycott many other meetings in the future - but it will be necessary.

Meetings that have to be made with Serbia will just be made elsewhere - often outside of any publicised forum. Serbia is too significant a player for the issues to go unaddressed.

The effect of conferences involving a mis-represented Kosovo will therefore diminish. It won't be worth the bother.

Baa, baa, black sheep
Have you any wool?
Yes sir, yes sir,
Three bags full,but
None for the jester,
None for the dame,
And for damn sure none-- for the little boy
Who lives down the lane.

baa

I have to express my unhappiness towards our leaders who have no vision but just empty talk.
(Unhappy Serbian, 20 March 2010 05:05)

Hey Arben Hoxhić,

You have both Sali Berisha and Hashish Thaçi there meeting with Borat, I mean, sorry, Borut -no shortage of the "leaders".

Not sure about Borut - but I think, Borat is a better leader than the other two.

http://skinneygenes.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/borat-flag.jpg

So maybe you are right.

Comment: Don´t you realize that nobody cares about Serbia?
(Poster, 19 March 2010 18:48)

Do you realize, that Kosovo loose more and more support from Intenational Community, because you are not able to fight against corruption, protect war-"heros?"/-criminal, insult investors?

Sorry Kosovo you are on the best way for an failed state.

Tadic was only asking for a sign that would hide the ugliness from interpols most wanted list.
Now the rest of Europe is saying they are not going for the same reason..
Hide criminals..

This is the Emperors' clothes all over again.

The EU and EC representatives are not attending, Spain is not attending, and Serbia is not attending... and the Slovenian PM is quoting from Annie: "Tomorrow will be another day".

Doesn't that send any signals to those celebrating?

The international conference which will matter will be under Spain's watch, and they will abide by Resolution 1244, insisting that if Kosovo attends it is referred to as Kosovo-UNMIK.

That means that Zoran's wonderful plane will stay grounded on that occasion, which is the relevant and important event.


Mike C:

Here is the agenda for tomorrows conference:

1. Coffey and cookies
2. Talks about the weather
3. Milo hands out free cigarettes

5. Hugs and bye bye before the hosts call it a successful meeting
(Mikael C, 19 March 2010 16:02)

That is very funny. There will be lots of mutual backslapping and a statement released which paraphrased says: "We don't care that Serbia didn't come to our party, we had a great time anyway and talked about lots of very important things. It was so important that we are now going to issue a press release containing lots of strong statements."

To: President Boris Tadić
From: Micheal

Thank you sincerely.
Things are looking up.

MB,Ireland

Day off for Tadic

(torontonian, 20 March 2010 01:51)

You value your life very little. Don’t you know Serbia controls Kosovo now; no industry; no jobs; no investment unless Serbia recognizes an independent Kosovo.
It’s 12 years since freedom and democracy came to the Albanians, what has changed???? B92 recently reported RS MUP arresting some Serbs for smuggling Albanians to the EU. They are all trying to get out seeking a better life.

4. Who can do the best impression of Tito

What about the recognitions in the Balkans?
(Zoti, 19 March 2010 23:00)
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the micro city states in the balkans eg:(mac,mont even BG)are powerless and will do as told ALWAYS.. albania and turkey ...i dont think we need to say anything about that..the recognitions in the balkans are not as impressive as you may think they are !!

"Fortunately, the people on this forum that speak most vociferously are from the diaspora. I need not mention their names, but they are paid by the government and do not represent the average Serb. Most Serbs have given up on Kosova for the lost cause that it is. Their only concern is a job and a better economy so they can provide for their children.

btw, Not that it matters since it is common knowledge, but Vuk Jeremic's Grandfather was Muslim. Any elementary search will bear this out. What is amusing is that Vuk has been traveling to many Muslim countries to try and prevent them from recognizing Kosova. He apparently mentions his family background in hopes of giving the impression that he is pro-Muslim. Meanwhile, when he visits non-Muslim countries he warns them of creating another "Muslim state". The irony is that most Albanians are no more Muslim than Vuk. Albanians are only culturally Muslim, as most people who have visited Kosova know."
(Michael R., 21 March 2010 20:06)
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Wow, what can one say to this? Please provide some evidence that we in diaspora are paid by the government to write here.
How do you know what Vuk says to the people he talks to on his trips? Are you watching over his shoulder and listening to what is said? If this is the case then you must be paid to accompany him everywhere.

Are you sure your name is not Hazel?