Daily: No model right for Kosovo

There are ONLY two practical models.

1. Accepting the reality of independence of Kosovo
2. Accepting the natural unification of Kosovo with Albania.

In the latter scenario Kosovo will still be a province (satisfying some Serbian hardliners lines of thinking) but of ALbania, thus it would be easy for Serbia to keep the 'promise' and say that Kosovo will never be independence and never sit with Thaci on the table.

Either of the above scenarios will work for Kosovo.

Kosovo and Metohija is the proper name for Serbia’s historic and legal province of Kosovo, even though the name Kosovo is used most times for the sake of convenience.

The term Metohija is the Greek word meaning Monastic Estates, and the Province’s full name of Kosovo and Metohija should be used more often that it currently is, and its meaning should be explained to foreigners.

The name Kosovo can used more often than Kosovo and Metohija, but Kosovo and Metohija needs to be used now and then at least.

This is especially so during the attempted theft of Serbia’s historical and cultural lands, that represents Serbia’s Cultural Heritage.

Kosovo and Metohija is not a Nationalist term, even though the separatist Albanians and their sponsors make that claim.

This is because it is a constant unwelcomed reminder to the Albanians and their sponsors, that this is historic land belonging to Serbian Monasteries.

That land and it was donated to the Serbian Orthodox Church by Serbia’s Nobles and Rulers in the Middle Ages.

The Albanians and their sponsors claim that Kosovo and Metohija it is a nationalist term, because the Albanians have no legal, historic, or cultural claim to ownership of Serbia’s legal and historic lands.

The Kosovo Albanian presence in Kosovo and Metohija is based on usurpation and exploitation of Serbian cultural development at the behest of several foreign invaders.

The Turks left, the Austro-Hungarians left, the Germans left, and America will also leave.

Kosovo is not a disputed territory, because its status as a province of Serbia is never in doubt, anymore than Yorkshire’s status as an English Shire is not in doubt.

The Albanians were offered a high level of autonomy which stopped just short of full independence, and many minority groups all over the world would be delighted with that.

Why are the Albanians demands for full independence so much more special than those of say the Kurds, South Ossetia, the Republic of Srpska, or any other region in the World?

There is a model indeed we are and will implement: keep them as a black hole on the map of the World till this "rape" of our territory and sovereignty is reversed.
Easy!

He said that such a model could be accepted by Kosovo Albanians as well "since daily Koha Ditore wrote an affirmative story on the topic five years ago."
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It was accepted? Hahaha, the state of Serbian pundits! Serbs used to be much better at this, maybe the intellectuals all left for the West.

Bavaria has Autonomy, Kosova is recognized by 65 nations, has embassies, IMF, WBank, semi-army. This model is 12 years too late.

Every Serb knows this is the beginning, to get the Serbs used tot he idea and right before accession you will have to recognize.

The Turks left, the Austro-Hungarians left, the Germans left, and America will also leave.
(J.S., 17 March 2010)

Guess who will NEVER leave Kosova.


The Albanians were offered a high level of autonomy which stopped just short of full independence, and many minority groups all over the world would be delighted with that.
(J.S., 17 March 2010)

Whatever happened to the autonomy?
I laso can't think of a group of people who will be delighted to be stripped of their most essential rights.

No model good for Kosovo = sui generis case (as every other case, indeed). As for Bavaria, it's the one which fits least

Vasić said that a possible solution for Kosovo's status could follow the lead of the Free State of Bavaria, because that German province has independent executive, court, and legislative administrations, but does not have international legal subjectivity.

He said that such a model could be accepted by Kosovo Albanians as well "since daily Koha Ditore wrote an affirmative story on the topic five years ago."

Talk about brain-drain.Five years ago a Kosova daily wrote an affirmative on the topic. It seems there really is some Matrix reality here since if I am not mistaken Kosova declared independence 2 years ago. Now let's compare this to something human, would blacks in USA agree to have their right to vote withdrawn or better yet would women agree to have their rights abolished for some less rights.Good luck with that.

Don't dream under the sun, and don't loose the chances for an profitable cooperation. People in Kosova has decided and no one can bring the situation back.

We are conscientious that Serbia can delay the Kosova recognition but can't stop it. If it still working this way should think the step to do after the ICJ opinion. But as long as the general opinion here don't see any future with Serbia, NO CHANCE TO BE TOGETHER AGAIN. A lot of efforts are taken to convince others to recognize Serbia authority in Kosova. The problem is that chances that this authority to be recognized here are NULL.

Everyday is more clearer that the politics for Kosova are used for Serbia internal consumption. Kosova is affected everyday less than the day before.

Croatia didn't consider it. Slovenia apparently is trying to find a better moderate way to help Serbia to get out from this mess. According to Kosova the decision is already done.

Danas writes that there is no international model that can be directly implemented for the future relations between Belgrade and Priština.

That's what WEST has said from begining. KOSOVO SUI GENERIS.
What else you what to know

Jerking Albanian Chains. That's all it is. Kosovo is dead and more and more Albanians are leaving because of the joblessness, but only the Albos living overseas are pushing this "guess who will be in Kosovo for ever" or "we are recognised by 65 countries, but how many have actual embassies???????Not many.

"Vasić said that a possible solution for Kosovo's status could follow the lead of the Free State of Bavaria, because that German province has independent executive, court, and legislative administrations, but does not have international legal subjectivity.

He said that such a model could be accepted by Kosovo Albanians as well "since daily Koha Ditore wrote an affirmative story on the topic five years ago."

-Wake up. Smell the coffee.

Noone is really interesstest in a solution. Everyone is making stupid excuses...,

...because all of you are afraid from peace!!!!!

The european future, you want to be member of it, does´nt identify with borders or ethnicity. In fact after Lisboa treaty European Union is one Nation.

Now you can choose: One European Nation with Serbs and Albanians together or you will stay for a long time as one of the poorest coutries in Europe.

Jerking Albanian Chains. That's all it is. Kosovo is dead and more and more Albanians are leaving because of the joblessness..
(sj, 17 March 2010 22:40)

This is getting old. Its been 50 years that we were leaving because Kosova is poor. Yet here we are and we are thriving. Not only that but we're in a much better position that we've been in centuries. I mean you can be blind and still see that. I don't know if that works if you're a Serb. If the place is poor, is poverty biased towards ethnicities? I mean do only Albanians leave because of poverty while Serbs stay? Or are you pulling another one of those fairy tales where NATO bombs recognize people's ethnicity hence only Albanians leave while the Serbs in Kosova not being recognized by NATO's bombs falling through the night sky got to stay?

As someone mentioned before, didn't the west tell you guys years ago that this was a sui generis case and no model is right? Yet it took you years to figure it out and come and say that no model is right. Not only that but you needed your own "experts" to tell you that. You will figure it all out eventually. Baby steps. Tadic is almost there. His mouth already slipped about wanting separation already and his stooge in Republica Srpska repeated the same thing a couple of days ago. Take as much time as you want. We got time.

(johny, 18 March 2010 07:13)

A very large proportion of the original Albanians living in Kosovo left as soon as the Germans told the world that Yugoslavia no longer existed and that they can throw away their papers. There are some 200 000 in Germany alone.
The vast number of Albanians living in Kosovo today are from Albania. They thought that the US was going to “pave the Streets of Pristina with gold” and even with conditions as they are it is still better in Kosovo than Albania. But they are also getting tired of empty promises; bring industry and jobs. You see I have extremely good sources of information and not based on the rumour mill but people that are either on the ground working for NATO/EULEX but also from the finance industry. They are not Serbs either.
The only people paid by the west in Kosovo are their politicians like Thaci and others that do their bidding – they are not interested in the locals for one microsecond.
Serbia can leave Kosovo like it is for decades and then see how many Albanians are left. Try moving back and living in Kosovo and taste that bread and then tell me how wonderful it’s there.

The vast number of Albanians living in Kosovo today are from Albania. They thought that the US was going to “pave the Streets of Pristina with gold” and even with conditions as they are it is still better in Kosovo than Albania.
(sj, 18 March 2010)

Wow if there ever was a title for the most absurd ever statement made on this site it has gotta to go SJ.
Albanians have been migrating from Albania for 20 years now but I can't of 1 case where one did move to Kosova. or are you referring to the 800,000 Kosovar Albanians who moved back home?

With respect of every opinion, it is nonsense to think of a possible return of Kosovo/a to Serbia. It just doesn't add up even in theory. I have asked few times the Serbian panel in here what REALISTICALLY would mean a return of Serbia's sovereinity in Kosovo. It seems everyone is shying away from my question. Straight talk guy!
For argument sake it would be more REALISTIC for Kosovo/a joining Albania than thinking a return of Serbia sovereinity over Kosovo. My comment is purely as an illustration of how possible is Serbia's sovereignity over Kosovo/a as well as what a waste of time and money are the Jeremic attempt to stop the unstoppable.

Kosovo and Metohija is the proper name for Serbia’s historic and legal province of Kosovo, even though the name Kosovo is used most times for the sake of convenience.

The term Metohija is the Greek word meaning Monastic Estates, and the Province’s full name of Kosovo and Metohija should be used more often that it currently is, and its meaning should be explained to foreigners.

The name Kosovo can used more often than Kosovo and Metohija, but Kosovo and Metohija needs to be used now and then at least.

This is especially so during the attempted theft of Serbia’s historical and cultural lands, that represents Serbia’s Cultural Heritage.

Kosovo and Metohija is not a Nationalist term, even though the separatist Albanians and their sponsors make that claim.

This is because it is a constant unwelcomed reminder to the Albanians and their sponsors, that this is historic land belonging to Serbian Monasteries.

That land and it was donated to the Serbian Orthodox Church by Serbia’s Nobles and Rulers in the Middle Ages.

The Albanians and their sponsors claim that Kosovo and Metohija it is a nationalist term, because the Albanians have no legal, historic, or cultural claim to ownership of Serbia’s legal and historic lands.

The Kosovo Albanian presence in Kosovo and Metohija is based on usurpation and exploitation of Serbian cultural development at the behest of several foreign invaders.

The Turks left, the Austro-Hungarians left, the Germans left, and America will also leave.

Kosovo is not a disputed territory, because its status as a province of Serbia is never in doubt, anymore than Yorkshire’s status as an English Shire is not in doubt.

The Albanians were offered a high level of autonomy which stopped just short of full independence, and many minority groups all over the world would be delighted with that.

Why are the Albanians demands for full independence so much more special than those of say the Kurds, South Ossetia, the Republic of Srpska, or any other region in the World?

There are ONLY two practical models.

1. Accepting the reality of independence of Kosovo
2. Accepting the natural unification of Kosovo with Albania.

In the latter scenario Kosovo will still be a province (satisfying some Serbian hardliners lines of thinking) but of ALbania, thus it would be easy for Serbia to keep the 'promise' and say that Kosovo will never be independence and never sit with Thaci on the table.

Either of the above scenarios will work for Kosovo.

He said that such a model could be accepted by Kosovo Albanians as well "since daily Koha Ditore wrote an affirmative story on the topic five years ago."
---
It was accepted? Hahaha, the state of Serbian pundits! Serbs used to be much better at this, maybe the intellectuals all left for the West.

Bavaria has Autonomy, Kosova is recognized by 65 nations, has embassies, IMF, WBank, semi-army. This model is 12 years too late.

Every Serb knows this is the beginning, to get the Serbs used tot he idea and right before accession you will have to recognize.

Don't dream under the sun, and don't loose the chances for an profitable cooperation. People in Kosova has decided and no one can bring the situation back.

We are conscientious that Serbia can delay the Kosova recognition but can't stop it. If it still working this way should think the step to do after the ICJ opinion. But as long as the general opinion here don't see any future with Serbia, NO CHANCE TO BE TOGETHER AGAIN. A lot of efforts are taken to convince others to recognize Serbia authority in Kosova. The problem is that chances that this authority to be recognized here are NULL.

Everyday is more clearer that the politics for Kosova are used for Serbia internal consumption. Kosova is affected everyday less than the day before.

Croatia didn't consider it. Slovenia apparently is trying to find a better moderate way to help Serbia to get out from this mess. According to Kosova the decision is already done.

Vasić said that a possible solution for Kosovo's status could follow the lead of the Free State of Bavaria, because that German province has independent executive, court, and legislative administrations, but does not have international legal subjectivity.

He said that such a model could be accepted by Kosovo Albanians as well "since daily Koha Ditore wrote an affirmative story on the topic five years ago."

Talk about brain-drain.Five years ago a Kosova daily wrote an affirmative on the topic. It seems there really is some Matrix reality here since if I am not mistaken Kosova declared independence 2 years ago. Now let's compare this to something human, would blacks in USA agree to have their right to vote withdrawn or better yet would women agree to have their rights abolished for some less rights.Good luck with that.

No model good for Kosovo = sui generis case (as every other case, indeed). As for Bavaria, it's the one which fits least

Danas writes that there is no international model that can be directly implemented for the future relations between Belgrade and Priština.

That's what WEST has said from begining. KOSOVO SUI GENERIS.
What else you what to know

There is a model indeed we are and will implement: keep them as a black hole on the map of the World till this "rape" of our territory and sovereignty is reversed.
Easy!

"Vasić said that a possible solution for Kosovo's status could follow the lead of the Free State of Bavaria, because that German province has independent executive, court, and legislative administrations, but does not have international legal subjectivity.

He said that such a model could be accepted by Kosovo Albanians as well "since daily Koha Ditore wrote an affirmative story on the topic five years ago."

-Wake up. Smell the coffee.

The Turks left, the Austro-Hungarians left, the Germans left, and America will also leave.
(J.S., 17 March 2010)

Guess who will NEVER leave Kosova.


The Albanians were offered a high level of autonomy which stopped just short of full independence, and many minority groups all over the world would be delighted with that.
(J.S., 17 March 2010)

Whatever happened to the autonomy?
I laso can't think of a group of people who will be delighted to be stripped of their most essential rights.

Jerking Albanian Chains. That's all it is. Kosovo is dead and more and more Albanians are leaving because of the joblessness..
(sj, 17 March 2010 22:40)

This is getting old. Its been 50 years that we were leaving because Kosova is poor. Yet here we are and we are thriving. Not only that but we're in a much better position that we've been in centuries. I mean you can be blind and still see that. I don't know if that works if you're a Serb. If the place is poor, is poverty biased towards ethnicities? I mean do only Albanians leave because of poverty while Serbs stay? Or are you pulling another one of those fairy tales where NATO bombs recognize people's ethnicity hence only Albanians leave while the Serbs in Kosova not being recognized by NATO's bombs falling through the night sky got to stay?

As someone mentioned before, didn't the west tell you guys years ago that this was a sui generis case and no model is right? Yet it took you years to figure it out and come and say that no model is right. Not only that but you needed your own "experts" to tell you that. You will figure it all out eventually. Baby steps. Tadic is almost there. His mouth already slipped about wanting separation already and his stooge in Republica Srpska repeated the same thing a couple of days ago. Take as much time as you want. We got time.

Jerking Albanian Chains. That's all it is. Kosovo is dead and more and more Albanians are leaving because of the joblessness, but only the Albos living overseas are pushing this "guess who will be in Kosovo for ever" or "we are recognised by 65 countries, but how many have actual embassies???????Not many.

With respect of every opinion, it is nonsense to think of a possible return of Kosovo/a to Serbia. It just doesn't add up even in theory. I have asked few times the Serbian panel in here what REALISTICALLY would mean a return of Serbia's sovereinity in Kosovo. It seems everyone is shying away from my question. Straight talk guy!
For argument sake it would be more REALISTIC for Kosovo/a joining Albania than thinking a return of Serbia sovereinity over Kosovo. My comment is purely as an illustration of how possible is Serbia's sovereignity over Kosovo/a as well as what a waste of time and money are the Jeremic attempt to stop the unstoppable.

Noone is really interesstest in a solution. Everyone is making stupid excuses...,

...because all of you are afraid from peace!!!!!

The european future, you want to be member of it, does´nt identify with borders or ethnicity. In fact after Lisboa treaty European Union is one Nation.

Now you can choose: One European Nation with Serbs and Albanians together or you will stay for a long time as one of the poorest coutries in Europe.

(johny, 18 March 2010 07:13)

A very large proportion of the original Albanians living in Kosovo left as soon as the Germans told the world that Yugoslavia no longer existed and that they can throw away their papers. There are some 200 000 in Germany alone.
The vast number of Albanians living in Kosovo today are from Albania. They thought that the US was going to “pave the Streets of Pristina with gold” and even with conditions as they are it is still better in Kosovo than Albania. But they are also getting tired of empty promises; bring industry and jobs. You see I have extremely good sources of information and not based on the rumour mill but people that are either on the ground working for NATO/EULEX but also from the finance industry. They are not Serbs either.
The only people paid by the west in Kosovo are their politicians like Thaci and others that do their bidding – they are not interested in the locals for one microsecond.
Serbia can leave Kosovo like it is for decades and then see how many Albanians are left. Try moving back and living in Kosovo and taste that bread and then tell me how wonderful it’s there.

The vast number of Albanians living in Kosovo today are from Albania. They thought that the US was going to “pave the Streets of Pristina with gold” and even with conditions as they are it is still better in Kosovo than Albania.
(sj, 18 March 2010)

Wow if there ever was a title for the most absurd ever statement made on this site it has gotta to go SJ.
Albanians have been migrating from Albania for 20 years now but I can't of 1 case where one did move to Kosova. or are you referring to the 800,000 Kosovar Albanians who moved back home?