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Sunday, 14.03.2010.

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Former Albanian PM criticizes Meta’s visit

Former Albanian prime minister Pandeli Majko said that Albanian Foreign Minister Ilir Meta’s visit to Serbia came at the wrong time.

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Mr Rae

pre 14 godina

I continue to be completely flabbergasted by some of the self written, overtly egotistical Illyrian historians on this board. Now I, as well as the rest of us, am trying to be informed by our good friend Dennis who has now claimed the Greek Gods as Illyrian. That is something that simply is amazing. A roman province seems to somehow have been an historically invisible super power. Perhaps the Rosetta stone was also in Illyrian?
Are you actually trying to say that the Greek language is a derivative of Alb-Illyrian? Is this some of the nonsense that you wish us to believe?
Besides the simple facts that Greece was an active, archeologically confirmed civilization which back then was likely equivalent, if not superior to the current state of the Albanian civilization, and many more within the Balkans for that fact (Serbia included).
I fail to understand how you would even have found any such reference based on your claim that it was an unwritten language? Is there perhaps a 4000 year old man living in Albania that can recall the events of Cleopatra and Marc Antony, or Alexander's conquests of Europe and Asia Minor, or the Glory of Constantinople, or the ravages of Atila and his Huns, or the brutality of the Ottoman Empire, or even Galileo, and the glories of the Renaissance? How is it that a nonwritten languange's, and subsequently peoples history authentically survive?
Please do not attempt to pass of fables, legends and myth as fact and reality. If that is the case then have I got a few *facts* for you too.
I can perhaps understand an Albainia sided argument about 'who was here first' with resepect to Serbia, but when you throw Greece into the mix, the godfather of Kosovo's new democracy, the founders of science, the only interpreters of Egyptian, the writers of the New Testament, I fail to find the humor in such saddening ignorance, or despicable attempted propaganda.
History does not seem to be a strong friend to an illiterate and subordinate society. You may attempt to rewrite it through your new found literacy, but older texts show different facts. Older buildings and monuments also show Serbia's historical claims to the Kosovo landscape, unless of course along with illiteracy the glorious fiefdoms of Illyria were also nomadic tribes without the ability, know-how, or drive to build. And if that is the case, a group of decedents of a bunch of illiterate, uninspired, hardly-working peoples should refrain from pointing fingers and throwing stones.
Now, of course I would hardly suspect than my 'only-obvious-based-on-your-argument-inferences into Illyrian history are correct, which would then have us all conclude that your history is marked full of fantasy.
I'm sorry Denis my friend, but when you're going to beat your chest you should at least try to pass it by some kindergarteners first before you wish to play with the big boys.
Thank you for the marvelous history of the day.

And with respect to Lord Byron's work. I'm sure that the Albanians were good soldiers for the nation that housed and fed them. Equivalently the American Armed forces is disproportionally minority ethnicities (African-American and Hispanic) I wouldn't be surprised at all that Albanians were disproportionally large too. The upper classes (in America the European-Americans) typically learn that sending their children to fight is not nearly as good as sending the lower classes (every body else).

Nelli_Canada

pre 14 godina

You may say whatever you want about Pandeli Majko but it was this man who ordered the shelling of Serb forces after they illegally crossed into Albania in 1999.
Check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k_FC2HD-aI&feature=related

He was an amazing Albo PM, he's loved and respected by all 9 million Albanians in the Balkans.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Mikael C, 14 March 2010 10:52 Gee Mike C. could this all be happening to Serbia because of Serbias many excuses sins. Until they repent make it rite with God and their neighbours disaster will follow Serbs. … That is Gods word in Rev 9:21 Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their immorality or their thefts. Gods curse comes on any people who think they can break Gods eternal laws and get away with it in no way will it happen God is just.
(Lenard, 14 March 2010 23:13)
===================

Wow, Serbs are actually mentioned in scriptures.
I didn't know that God used Serbs as examples.

ben

pre 14 godina

Speaking about names, toponyms, etc.
Pandelis (greek name), Majkos (Serbo-Greek surname), speak your heart out, my man!
(pyrros, 14 March 2010 17:55)

And let me give you on more name: SOLUN. I am sure you know this city :)

But we all live in BALKAN= Turkish word (montaineous region) so we "are" all Turks. :)

But hey Britain is French :))

And my frind Paul is Palestinian since he has a biblical :))

oso

pre 14 godina

Pandeli Majko did more for Albanian cause than any other Albanian prime minister.,The pitty is just because he was leader of socialist party but still he did a greeat job for all of us.

Lenard

pre 14 godina

Mikael C, 14 March 2010 10:52 Gee Mike C. could this all be happening to Serbia because of Serbias many excuses sins. Until they repent make it rite with God and their neighbours disaster will follow Serbs. That is Gods word in Rev 9:21 Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their immorality or their thefts. Gods curse comes on any people who think they can break Gods eternal laws and get away with it in no way will it happen God is just.

EA

pre 14 godina

"Pyrros",

What are you talking about? Our "Pandelis" is Greek? You made me laugh. You really did. Good try though. I am EA in Albanian and in Greek EAS but very Albanian for at least six generations. Stop making silly analogies. Rest assured that the Albanians orthodox are NOT Greek. Would you say that Greeks are Russians or Serbs....? Leave the religion alone and don't mess it up with politics. By the away I don't agree with Pandeli Majko statement. Albania and Serbia must have good relations despite the disagreement over Kosovo/a.

KU

pre 14 godina

"Speaking about names, toponyms, etc.
Pandelis (greek name), Majkos (Serbo-Greek surname), speak your heart out, my man!"
(pyrros, 14 March 2010 17:55)

Nice, let's continue that funny (and useless) game: Karatzaferis, Karamanlis (Turkish last names)...

Denis

pre 14 godina

Speaking about names, toponyms, etc.
Pandelis (greek name), Majkos (Serbo-Greek surname), speak your heart out, my man!
(pyrros, 14 March 2010 17:55)

Well yeah, just because you wrote it first doesnt mean it's greek. Majko means something in Albanian too "tip of the head", just like Pandeli does. But you greeks are masters of appropriating other nations' work. Illyian Alb was not a written language and many words in Greek have no meaning and are expained only in Albanian like Athens, Zeus, Parthenon etc etc.

Read Lord Byron writings to learn how he was impressed to see how Albanians were leading the Greek revolutions (10 main leaders), or when in 1827 Greek parlament took a vote on making Albanian the official language of Greece, but they lost by 3 votes.

This is what happen when others build and fight for your country for you, just like there are others who pay for building it as they have and are doing right now.

Ptoleme

pre 14 godina

Mikael, we wouldn't be in this situation if it wasn't for the blatant theft of Albanian lands in the first place but I am sure you already knew that.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"Majko said, according to the MakFax agency, that the visit served Belgrade more than it did Tirana, because nothing was achieved in the problems related to the independence of Kosovo."

-- If he thinks like that, he better get used to being disappointed.

MJ

pre 14 godina

How can Albania stand and not defend the basic rights of its population left out of motherland when parts of its territory were occupied by its neighbours? In Macedonia about 30% of population is Albanian. In Greece, the whole chameria is overwhelming Albanian. In Montenegro, at least 4 minicipalities are Albanian. Let not forget the Kosovar-albanians in the Presevo Valley. Albania can, has to and will be the voice of its people no matter were they live.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"because nothing was achieved in the problems related to the independence of Kosovo."

Albanians in Albania should keep out of Serbia and stop destabilizing the region by trying to get their hands on their neighbours territory in Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro and Greece. Albania is in no position to make any demands or in other ways make Serbia recognize the theft of Serbian land.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"because nothing was achieved in the problems related to the independence of Kosovo."

Albanians in Albania should keep out of Serbia and stop destabilizing the region by trying to get their hands on their neighbours territory in Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro and Greece. Albania is in no position to make any demands or in other ways make Serbia recognize the theft of Serbian land.

MJ

pre 14 godina

How can Albania stand and not defend the basic rights of its population left out of motherland when parts of its territory were occupied by its neighbours? In Macedonia about 30% of population is Albanian. In Greece, the whole chameria is overwhelming Albanian. In Montenegro, at least 4 minicipalities are Albanian. Let not forget the Kosovar-albanians in the Presevo Valley. Albania can, has to and will be the voice of its people no matter were they live.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"Majko said, according to the MakFax agency, that the visit served Belgrade more than it did Tirana, because nothing was achieved in the problems related to the independence of Kosovo."

-- If he thinks like that, he better get used to being disappointed.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Mikael C, 14 March 2010 10:52 Gee Mike C. could this all be happening to Serbia because of Serbias many excuses sins. Until they repent make it rite with God and their neighbours disaster will follow Serbs. … That is Gods word in Rev 9:21 Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their immorality or their thefts. Gods curse comes on any people who think they can break Gods eternal laws and get away with it in no way will it happen God is just.
(Lenard, 14 March 2010 23:13)
===================

Wow, Serbs are actually mentioned in scriptures.
I didn't know that God used Serbs as examples.

Denis

pre 14 godina

Speaking about names, toponyms, etc.
Pandelis (greek name), Majkos (Serbo-Greek surname), speak your heart out, my man!
(pyrros, 14 March 2010 17:55)

Well yeah, just because you wrote it first doesnt mean it's greek. Majko means something in Albanian too "tip of the head", just like Pandeli does. But you greeks are masters of appropriating other nations' work. Illyian Alb was not a written language and many words in Greek have no meaning and are expained only in Albanian like Athens, Zeus, Parthenon etc etc.

Read Lord Byron writings to learn how he was impressed to see how Albanians were leading the Greek revolutions (10 main leaders), or when in 1827 Greek parlament took a vote on making Albanian the official language of Greece, but they lost by 3 votes.

This is what happen when others build and fight for your country for you, just like there are others who pay for building it as they have and are doing right now.

KU

pre 14 godina

"Speaking about names, toponyms, etc.
Pandelis (greek name), Majkos (Serbo-Greek surname), speak your heart out, my man!"
(pyrros, 14 March 2010 17:55)

Nice, let's continue that funny (and useless) game: Karatzaferis, Karamanlis (Turkish last names)...

Mr Rae

pre 14 godina

I continue to be completely flabbergasted by some of the self written, overtly egotistical Illyrian historians on this board. Now I, as well as the rest of us, am trying to be informed by our good friend Dennis who has now claimed the Greek Gods as Illyrian. That is something that simply is amazing. A roman province seems to somehow have been an historically invisible super power. Perhaps the Rosetta stone was also in Illyrian?
Are you actually trying to say that the Greek language is a derivative of Alb-Illyrian? Is this some of the nonsense that you wish us to believe?
Besides the simple facts that Greece was an active, archeologically confirmed civilization which back then was likely equivalent, if not superior to the current state of the Albanian civilization, and many more within the Balkans for that fact (Serbia included).
I fail to understand how you would even have found any such reference based on your claim that it was an unwritten language? Is there perhaps a 4000 year old man living in Albania that can recall the events of Cleopatra and Marc Antony, or Alexander's conquests of Europe and Asia Minor, or the Glory of Constantinople, or the ravages of Atila and his Huns, or the brutality of the Ottoman Empire, or even Galileo, and the glories of the Renaissance? How is it that a nonwritten languange's, and subsequently peoples history authentically survive?
Please do not attempt to pass of fables, legends and myth as fact and reality. If that is the case then have I got a few *facts* for you too.
I can perhaps understand an Albainia sided argument about 'who was here first' with resepect to Serbia, but when you throw Greece into the mix, the godfather of Kosovo's new democracy, the founders of science, the only interpreters of Egyptian, the writers of the New Testament, I fail to find the humor in such saddening ignorance, or despicable attempted propaganda.
History does not seem to be a strong friend to an illiterate and subordinate society. You may attempt to rewrite it through your new found literacy, but older texts show different facts. Older buildings and monuments also show Serbia's historical claims to the Kosovo landscape, unless of course along with illiteracy the glorious fiefdoms of Illyria were also nomadic tribes without the ability, know-how, or drive to build. And if that is the case, a group of decedents of a bunch of illiterate, uninspired, hardly-working peoples should refrain from pointing fingers and throwing stones.
Now, of course I would hardly suspect than my 'only-obvious-based-on-your-argument-inferences into Illyrian history are correct, which would then have us all conclude that your history is marked full of fantasy.
I'm sorry Denis my friend, but when you're going to beat your chest you should at least try to pass it by some kindergarteners first before you wish to play with the big boys.
Thank you for the marvelous history of the day.

And with respect to Lord Byron's work. I'm sure that the Albanians were good soldiers for the nation that housed and fed them. Equivalently the American Armed forces is disproportionally minority ethnicities (African-American and Hispanic) I wouldn't be surprised at all that Albanians were disproportionally large too. The upper classes (in America the European-Americans) typically learn that sending their children to fight is not nearly as good as sending the lower classes (every body else).

EA

pre 14 godina

"Pyrros",

What are you talking about? Our "Pandelis" is Greek? You made me laugh. You really did. Good try though. I am EA in Albanian and in Greek EAS but very Albanian for at least six generations. Stop making silly analogies. Rest assured that the Albanians orthodox are NOT Greek. Would you say that Greeks are Russians or Serbs....? Leave the religion alone and don't mess it up with politics. By the away I don't agree with Pandeli Majko statement. Albania and Serbia must have good relations despite the disagreement over Kosovo/a.

Lenard

pre 14 godina

Mikael C, 14 March 2010 10:52 Gee Mike C. could this all be happening to Serbia because of Serbias many excuses sins. Until they repent make it rite with God and their neighbours disaster will follow Serbs. That is Gods word in Rev 9:21 Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their immorality or their thefts. Gods curse comes on any people who think they can break Gods eternal laws and get away with it in no way will it happen God is just.

oso

pre 14 godina

Pandeli Majko did more for Albanian cause than any other Albanian prime minister.,The pitty is just because he was leader of socialist party but still he did a greeat job for all of us.

Ptoleme

pre 14 godina

Mikael, we wouldn't be in this situation if it wasn't for the blatant theft of Albanian lands in the first place but I am sure you already knew that.

ben

pre 14 godina

Speaking about names, toponyms, etc.
Pandelis (greek name), Majkos (Serbo-Greek surname), speak your heart out, my man!
(pyrros, 14 March 2010 17:55)

And let me give you on more name: SOLUN. I am sure you know this city :)

But we all live in BALKAN= Turkish word (montaineous region) so we "are" all Turks. :)

But hey Britain is French :))

And my frind Paul is Palestinian since he has a biblical :))

Nelli_Canada

pre 14 godina

You may say whatever you want about Pandeli Majko but it was this man who ordered the shelling of Serb forces after they illegally crossed into Albania in 1999.
Check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k_FC2HD-aI&feature=related

He was an amazing Albo PM, he's loved and respected by all 9 million Albanians in the Balkans.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"because nothing was achieved in the problems related to the independence of Kosovo."

Albanians in Albania should keep out of Serbia and stop destabilizing the region by trying to get their hands on their neighbours territory in Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro and Greece. Albania is in no position to make any demands or in other ways make Serbia recognize the theft of Serbian land.

MJ

pre 14 godina

How can Albania stand and not defend the basic rights of its population left out of motherland when parts of its territory were occupied by its neighbours? In Macedonia about 30% of population is Albanian. In Greece, the whole chameria is overwhelming Albanian. In Montenegro, at least 4 minicipalities are Albanian. Let not forget the Kosovar-albanians in the Presevo Valley. Albania can, has to and will be the voice of its people no matter were they live.

Ptoleme

pre 14 godina

Mikael, we wouldn't be in this situation if it wasn't for the blatant theft of Albanian lands in the first place but I am sure you already knew that.

Nelli_Canada

pre 14 godina

You may say whatever you want about Pandeli Majko but it was this man who ordered the shelling of Serb forces after they illegally crossed into Albania in 1999.
Check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k_FC2HD-aI&feature=related

He was an amazing Albo PM, he's loved and respected by all 9 million Albanians in the Balkans.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"Majko said, according to the MakFax agency, that the visit served Belgrade more than it did Tirana, because nothing was achieved in the problems related to the independence of Kosovo."

-- If he thinks like that, he better get used to being disappointed.

Denis

pre 14 godina

Speaking about names, toponyms, etc.
Pandelis (greek name), Majkos (Serbo-Greek surname), speak your heart out, my man!
(pyrros, 14 March 2010 17:55)

Well yeah, just because you wrote it first doesnt mean it's greek. Majko means something in Albanian too "tip of the head", just like Pandeli does. But you greeks are masters of appropriating other nations' work. Illyian Alb was not a written language and many words in Greek have no meaning and are expained only in Albanian like Athens, Zeus, Parthenon etc etc.

Read Lord Byron writings to learn how he was impressed to see how Albanians were leading the Greek revolutions (10 main leaders), or when in 1827 Greek parlament took a vote on making Albanian the official language of Greece, but they lost by 3 votes.

This is what happen when others build and fight for your country for you, just like there are others who pay for building it as they have and are doing right now.

Lenard

pre 14 godina

Mikael C, 14 March 2010 10:52 Gee Mike C. could this all be happening to Serbia because of Serbias many excuses sins. Until they repent make it rite with God and their neighbours disaster will follow Serbs. That is Gods word in Rev 9:21 Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their immorality or their thefts. Gods curse comes on any people who think they can break Gods eternal laws and get away with it in no way will it happen God is just.

EA

pre 14 godina

"Pyrros",

What are you talking about? Our "Pandelis" is Greek? You made me laugh. You really did. Good try though. I am EA in Albanian and in Greek EAS but very Albanian for at least six generations. Stop making silly analogies. Rest assured that the Albanians orthodox are NOT Greek. Would you say that Greeks are Russians or Serbs....? Leave the religion alone and don't mess it up with politics. By the away I don't agree with Pandeli Majko statement. Albania and Serbia must have good relations despite the disagreement over Kosovo/a.

KU

pre 14 godina

"Speaking about names, toponyms, etc.
Pandelis (greek name), Majkos (Serbo-Greek surname), speak your heart out, my man!"
(pyrros, 14 March 2010 17:55)

Nice, let's continue that funny (and useless) game: Karatzaferis, Karamanlis (Turkish last names)...

ben

pre 14 godina

Speaking about names, toponyms, etc.
Pandelis (greek name), Majkos (Serbo-Greek surname), speak your heart out, my man!
(pyrros, 14 March 2010 17:55)

And let me give you on more name: SOLUN. I am sure you know this city :)

But we all live in BALKAN= Turkish word (montaineous region) so we "are" all Turks. :)

But hey Britain is French :))

And my frind Paul is Palestinian since he has a biblical :))

oso

pre 14 godina

Pandeli Majko did more for Albanian cause than any other Albanian prime minister.,The pitty is just because he was leader of socialist party but still he did a greeat job for all of us.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Mikael C, 14 March 2010 10:52 Gee Mike C. could this all be happening to Serbia because of Serbias many excuses sins. Until they repent make it rite with God and their neighbours disaster will follow Serbs. … That is Gods word in Rev 9:21 Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their immorality or their thefts. Gods curse comes on any people who think they can break Gods eternal laws and get away with it in no way will it happen God is just.
(Lenard, 14 March 2010 23:13)
===================

Wow, Serbs are actually mentioned in scriptures.
I didn't know that God used Serbs as examples.

Mr Rae

pre 14 godina

I continue to be completely flabbergasted by some of the self written, overtly egotistical Illyrian historians on this board. Now I, as well as the rest of us, am trying to be informed by our good friend Dennis who has now claimed the Greek Gods as Illyrian. That is something that simply is amazing. A roman province seems to somehow have been an historically invisible super power. Perhaps the Rosetta stone was also in Illyrian?
Are you actually trying to say that the Greek language is a derivative of Alb-Illyrian? Is this some of the nonsense that you wish us to believe?
Besides the simple facts that Greece was an active, archeologically confirmed civilization which back then was likely equivalent, if not superior to the current state of the Albanian civilization, and many more within the Balkans for that fact (Serbia included).
I fail to understand how you would even have found any such reference based on your claim that it was an unwritten language? Is there perhaps a 4000 year old man living in Albania that can recall the events of Cleopatra and Marc Antony, or Alexander's conquests of Europe and Asia Minor, or the Glory of Constantinople, or the ravages of Atila and his Huns, or the brutality of the Ottoman Empire, or even Galileo, and the glories of the Renaissance? How is it that a nonwritten languange's, and subsequently peoples history authentically survive?
Please do not attempt to pass of fables, legends and myth as fact and reality. If that is the case then have I got a few *facts* for you too.
I can perhaps understand an Albainia sided argument about 'who was here first' with resepect to Serbia, but when you throw Greece into the mix, the godfather of Kosovo's new democracy, the founders of science, the only interpreters of Egyptian, the writers of the New Testament, I fail to find the humor in such saddening ignorance, or despicable attempted propaganda.
History does not seem to be a strong friend to an illiterate and subordinate society. You may attempt to rewrite it through your new found literacy, but older texts show different facts. Older buildings and monuments also show Serbia's historical claims to the Kosovo landscape, unless of course along with illiteracy the glorious fiefdoms of Illyria were also nomadic tribes without the ability, know-how, or drive to build. And if that is the case, a group of decedents of a bunch of illiterate, uninspired, hardly-working peoples should refrain from pointing fingers and throwing stones.
Now, of course I would hardly suspect than my 'only-obvious-based-on-your-argument-inferences into Illyrian history are correct, which would then have us all conclude that your history is marked full of fantasy.
I'm sorry Denis my friend, but when you're going to beat your chest you should at least try to pass it by some kindergarteners first before you wish to play with the big boys.
Thank you for the marvelous history of the day.

And with respect to Lord Byron's work. I'm sure that the Albanians were good soldiers for the nation that housed and fed them. Equivalently the American Armed forces is disproportionally minority ethnicities (African-American and Hispanic) I wouldn't be surprised at all that Albanians were disproportionally large too. The upper classes (in America the European-Americans) typically learn that sending their children to fight is not nearly as good as sending the lower classes (every body else).