"Serbian-Albanian relations key for stability"

"Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić said that relations between Serbia and Albanian are burdened by political disagreements regarding Kosovo’s status. "

Serbia vs pregressive world.
Again, agreed to disagree, and for Serbia this is as commen as having daily cafees...but where is this leading Serbia...

Let me help you - ISOLATION


"Meta will be in the Preševo Valley region on Saturday, "...

Well, well, Meta is looking strategically to this soon-will-be-again-Albanian land about how to improve the infrastrcture in not to distant future...

First he ought to do on saturday an informal analysis and mini feasibility study.

Mr. Meta, Albania doesn't need good relations with Serbia. Serbians are living in Illyrian Lands. Serbians shoulg go back to Syberia. Albanians are in their own lands. Ina from Tirana.

Kosovo is Albanian as it always has been. Nis is Albanian too. Do yoy know what Nis means in Serbian? No, because there is no meaning in Serbian languange. Well in Albania, Nis mean the One. Nis, an illyrian town where Kostandin was born.

Its time to bury the hatchet. About Kosovo, it has not been a better solution than independence, until now anyway, the future can offer something different.

PRN

You are contradicting yourself. First you say that Serbia should go with the flow and recognize Kosovo. Then you say that soon Presevo will be albanian. Before you have said that territory to Nis belongs to albanians. And you are surprised Serbia doesn't want to recognize Kosovo?
Serbia should just give you territory and "go with the flow". Either you are just kidding or truly ignorant and foolish.
Oh, and one more thing. KEEP DREAMING! You don't even have Kosovo much less anything else.

"Kosovo is Albanian as it always has been."
ina caci

Then how come all the towns and cities in Kosovo have Serbian names? I'll tell you why! Kosovo has never been albanian. Albania is for albanians! Not Kosovo, not Montenegro, not Macedonia and not Serbia.

By meeting with Meta Serbia is choosing isolation prn?
Very intelligent comment!
And as you know if Meta does travel to Presevo he will have received permission from the Serbian authorities. That kind of agreement is struck usually in return for something else.

Perhaps you should wonder what else Meta and Tadic made agreements on?

Improvement of bilateral cooperation especially in the field of economy?!

What does albania have to offer??

Does Serbia really need more Donkeys imported from albania?

Mr. Meta, Albania doesn't need good relations with Serbia. Serbians are living in Illyrian Lands. Serbians shoulg go back to Syberia. Albanians are in their own lands. Ina from Tirana.
(ina caci, 12 March 2010 13:02)

Attention all trolls,

Go back to Dardania from whence you came.

PRN, ethnic Albanians from Preševo are integrated into Serbian institutions. They vote in Serbian elections and are Serbian citzens.

However, we have our eye on Serbian lands in Albania where 30,000 Serbians live. Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbs_in_Albania

answer to Predrag: serbia is already wide known for its donkeys and donkey's milk products. See the link below, perhaps you will recognize this native serbian donkey:
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=03&dd=08&nav_id=65668

Goes without saying;and those who shout louder aginst are the ones who are best aware of it

Sorry that "key" is lost somewhere...be sure to keep the doors locked.

"Kosovo is Albanian as it always has been. Nis is Albanian too. Do yoy know what Nis means in Serbian? No, because there is no meaning in Serbian languange. Well in Albania, Nis mean the One. Nis, an illyrian town where Kostandin was born.
(ina caci, 12 March 2010 13:33)"

Miss Ina, Meta is a greek word which means "after", also i present to you a map showing Serbian toponyms in albania, covering each inch of albanian space:

http://www.kroraina.com/seli_sna/selish_slavic.gif

I'd say many of the comments here are quite bizarre...

So if I got this right, many of the posters here believe that our ancestors had so much fun slaughtering each other over the centuries that their dying wish were for this generation and all the ones to come to keep doing the same...

Well, I personally like to flirt with the idea that this meeting and hopefully many others in the future, will demonstrate that the Balkans need not become the lands of the masochists and the dumb.

Perhaps you should wonder what else Meta and Tadic made agreements on?
(bganon, 12 March 2010 12:26)

Agreement to set up a special zoo for trolls maybe? I see already two interesting specimens here, one male and one female. Maybe good for start, but I am scared to think, what kind of offspring could be the result of such experiments.

I feel, Tadic and Meta at this moment read all these comments, look at each other and say only one thing: "what the hack??"

Reminds me of a very meaningful debate on youtube. It begun with an important topic regarding who invented the fustanella: Dorians or Illyrians. The debate continued into sexual theology (i.e. "God should punish the private parts of your momma") and finished with anthropological study ("what I have under my fustanella is bigger than what you have under yours!").

We are almost reached that level, just try harder.

They all have to bow to Serbia if they want to move ahead.He should pick all albanians not happy to live in Serbia and take them back to that wonder land of human rights and wealth.

"Serbian-Albanian relations key for stability"

...of the Southern part.

“The future of the entire Western Balkans is in the European Union. -and Jeremic on the top of officiell Belgrade will do everything to discourage this future.

"Peace and stability depends a great deal on relations between Serbs and Albanians" Its very surprising to hear that from Jeremic, who with his behaviour and statement shows that he do not respect any nation in the region except his own.

Interesting that a kind of reception Ilir Meta did get from Belgrade. Only to remember for Belgrade he is a foreign minister of a country who is the stronges supporter of the justified and legal independence of Kosovo !!!

what kind of offspring could be the result of such experiments.
(Ataman, 12 March 2010 13:47)

Well, there already are some interesting specimens posting on this site, not need to name them....and a lot of presidential and PM candidates the day the Pristina thugs will be removed!

Good that the meeting took place and it looks like Tadic has no problem to shake hands with politician officialy representing a real country!!

Miss Ina, Meta is a greek word which means "after", also i present to you a map showing Serbian toponyms in albania, covering each inch of albanian space:

[link]
(Pyrros, 12 March 2010 16:47)
Pyrros, Thank you very much for your comment. I agree. But you have to agree as well that Kosovo is Serbia as much as whole Albania and North part of today Greece is Serbia too based on those toponyms. Does 13 century, when Serbian Empire has occupied even half of Greece for long time. Does it make Greece any Serbian at all? Coincidently, whole area that you describe with Serbian toponyms are Albanian area which include Cameria in North of today Greece. That’s means that even Greece don’t bother to change those toponyms because those are not Greece land anyway.
BalkanUpates

Kosovo is Albanian as it always has been. Nis is Albanian too. Do yoy know what Nis means in Serbian? No, because there is no meaning in Serbian languange. Well in Albania, Nis mean the One. Nis, an illyrian town where Kostandin was born.
(ina caci, 12 March 2010 13:33)

Sorry to burst your Illyrian bubble but Nis is named after the first Christian Roman Emperor, Constantine the Great. If you have ever visited NIS, you would see the Roman walls that surround the city.

Since when do Albanians belong to the progressive world? Albanians are (aside from Moldovans) the poorest nation in Europe, and hardly the first nation that pops into mind when talking about progression in technology, science, economics and sport.

And why would you want to steal more lands that don't belong to you? (Peter Sudyka, 12 March 2010 21:40)

That's what Germans thought of your kind not long ago. You received billions from them in the last 20 years and u live a little better now, and yet are passing judgements upon others.

Remember Poland is not the cream of the crop of science and technlogy, even though you are 20 times more than Albanians, and Albanians only 50 yrs ago were 1 mil people all together, yet with figures like Scanderbeg, Mother Teresa, are far ahead from you I think.
I mean come on, if it was a German, Fin or a French to say this, I will swallow hard and agree to it, but a Polish guy ... give me a break.

PRN

Since when do Albanians belong to the progressive world? Albanians are (aside from Moldovans) the poorest nation in Europe, and hardly the first nation that pops into mind when talking about progression in technology, science, economics and sport.

And why would you want to steal more lands that don't belong to you? Europe already has one black hole/drug centre/criminal haven called Kosovo. Do you really want more of those?

We are almost reached that level, just try harder.
(Ataman, 12 March 2010 15:51)

Apparently you are one of the greatest contributors to this level of communication. Congratulations on your achievement and to B92 for being so selective and biased in the messages that allows through.

They all have to bow to Serbia if they want to move ahead.He should pick all albanians not happy to live in Serbia and take them back to that wonder land of human rights and wealth.
(lids, 12 March 2010 16:48)

I truly hope that most of the Serbs don't think this way, if history should have taught you anything .... but it's up to you.


Pyrros, it doesn't take a genious to know that the slavic names of the Alb areas are of course from the time of slavic invasions. There is not only Serbian names, there is Bulgarian ones as well. And because Alb was not a written language they stays as such Slavic, not tyhe names of smaller areas and streets and passages though they are albanian.

In fact some slavic named areas in south are claimed to be Greek lands from your extremists.... so u have a contradiction there.

Judging by the political situation at the moment, how come they've allowed you to visit Preshevo Valley Mr Meta? I just hope that you didn't sign anything stupid behind closed doors. I Hope Not!!!!

Is there something down there that should not see the light of day? Something hidden? Something dangerous?
--
(Jan Andersen (DK), 12 March 2010 19:14)

Oh you got them there! There are many secrets down south, beginning with the underground donkey-cloning facilities where they create genetically-superior donkeys from which this famous cheese comes from. God, I hope that the labs have not been discovered...!

peter sudyka,
our contribution to science:Ferid Murati,nobel price laura Mersini,medal for physik,our contribution to humanity Mother teresa ,nobel price,and Righthous among the nation ,given by yash vadem for saving jews,our contribution to mondial entertaiment:john Belushi(the blue brother) Inva mula,and other opera singers,our contribution to litterature Viktor eftemiu,ismael kadare,Sami frasheri ,helena gjika,our contribution to art Angelin preljocaj,liri begeja,our contribution to sportCana,xhemaili,behrami,etc etc
See famous albanian and be less stupid:our possiblity to express talents were crashed by serbia ,
The fact that albanians contribute to culture in all countries except serbia is significant.

On 12 March 2010 12:26, bganon wrote: "And as you know if Meta does travel to Presevo he will have received permission from the Serbian authorities."

Huh? That sounds .... Soviet Union like. "No, you can't go there. No, you can't go there either. No, you need permission to do that. And that too."

Would I also need special permission from the government if I wanted to see Presevo?

Is there something down there that should not see the light of day? Something hidden? Something dangerous?
--

(Pyrros, 12 March 2010 16:47)

What a great advantage, what a great website, amazing. I'll follow your posts for the links, that's sure.

"Well, I personally like to flirt with the idea that this meeting and hopefully many others in the future, will demonstrate that the Balkans need not become the lands of the masochists and the dumb." (Ment)

-- Now why do you have to go and ruin the fun of seeing who has the bigger -- um, history -- than the other with something like common sense and rationality Ment? That's not going to win you much friends around here :P

Is there something down there that should not see the light of day? Something hidden? Something dangerous?
--
(Jan Andersen (DK), 12 March 2010 19:14)

Not at all - but as a VIP and if on official visit you can't do what you want. There is a certain pre-arranged protocol and a large group of people is working behind the scenes to ensure, everything goes smoothly. There is a lot of reasons for that - beginning with security and ending with the concern that there won't be any PR disaster.

Two things come in mind:

1) Kouchner's outburst
2) László Sólyom who as a head of the state is a complete PR disaster by himself and is a rare example of a president who is barely on speaking term with every neighbor of the country. It is a common knowledge that it's very difficult to work with him and this is why so many of his visits into neighbor countries are "private". Like in last few cases he became a pain in the rear for his counterparts as diverse as Yulia Timoshenko or Boris Tadic.

Good we see things going so far smooth on this Serbian-Albanian meeting.

quote Peter Sudyka on:

[Since when do Albanians belong to the progressive world? Albanians are (aside from Moldovans) the poorest nation in Europe, and hardly the first nation that pops into mind when talking about progression in technology, science, economics and sport.

And why would you want to steal more lands that don't belong to you? Europe already has one black hole/drug centre/criminal haven called Kosovo. Do you really want more of those?]

@ Peter and all Albanians or non Albanians: we should all avoid this cheap rhetoric that won't take our countries far. Yes, Albania can be a poor country and it is still trying to recover the lost time for which, the long communist isolation is the only one to be blamed. However, progress is not measured only on economic terms. Progress to me, also means how a civil society treats its own citizens regardless of their ethnic backgrounds, race and so on. I believe that all of us as Balkanians should set our differences apart and work together and before we do that, we need to change our mentality and approach to resolving old and inherited issues. Pointing fingers at one another won't take us far. Nationalism didn't take any of us far neither. We can't decide who our neighbours should be and we share a lot more than we like to admit. Let's learn from the errors of the past and let's try to build a peaceful future together. If anything, do it for your children, let them live in a better world than the one you are currently living in.

cheers

Hans Christian stop being so blatantly selective and biased.
I guess you wouldn't support your "anti-soviet" "pro-western" "anti-slav" "pro-democratic" ideas, if it was e.g. for some Serb politician to visit Serb enclaves in Kosovo?

Or even the "DEMOCRATIC" will of N.Kosovo to join Serbia...
Or even RepSrpska to DEMOCRATICALLY join Serbia..

PS
The use of the word "soviet" as a term of low value seem to sound nothing in comparison to the term "WESTERN hypocrisy"

Apparently you are one of the greatest contributors to this level of communication. Congratulations on your achievement and to B92 for being so selective and biased in the messages that allows through.
(miri, 12 March 2010 17:51)

This could be true, but you know, it is also very depressing to see a sufficiently large group lacking any humor.

Kosovo is Albanian as it always has been. Nis is Albanian too. Do yoy know what Nis means in Serbian? No, because there is no meaning in Serbian languange. Well in Albania, Nis mean the One. Nis, an illyrian town where Kostandin was born.
(ina caci, 12 March 2010 13:33)

Who's "Konstandin"??

Well, I personally like to flirt with the idea that this meeting and hopefully many others in the future, will demonstrate that the Balkans need not become the lands of the masochists and the dumb.
(Ment, 12 March 2010 19:58)

it doesn't need become the lands of the masochists and the dumb since already is precisely that. and every chance to change this is being missed coz my superpower protector is cooler than yours, yo!

Now why do you have to go and ruin the fun of seeing who has the bigger -- um, history -- than the other with something like common sense and rationality Ment? That's not going to win you much friends around here :P
(Mike, 12 March 2010 22:49)

Yes, the ones who are going in the details what their opponents do NOT have under the fustanella are usually here on vacation only.

Imagine, you have a wet dream that you rally in your 1975 model Trabant around Tatabánya heroically protecting the Turul statue from Serbs / Croats. Than out of sudden you wake up...

....And there you are, in your humble 4000 sq ft. home in N.Y. State and tomorrow is the appointment for the first smog test of your 2007 Lexus. And not just the only Serb around is the Slovene waiter of the Cafe Jadran in close-by Mamakating - but you can't even drive cars with manual transmission.

It's pretty horrible situation - your only way out of the depression is to go on B92 and play the cyber-ogre.

:-D

I mean come on, if it was a German, Fin or a French to say this, I will swallow hard and agree to it, but a Polish guy ... give me a break.
(Denis, 13 March 2010 22:50)

Fin but not Polish?!

"That's what Germans thought of your kind not long ago."
(Denis)

What the Germans thought about ANY kind.., not long ago?

You better start again, from the scratch!

Kosovo is Albanian as it always has been. Nis is Albanian too. Do yoy know what Nis means in Serbian? No, because there is no meaning in Serbian languange. Well in Albania, Nis mean the One. Nis, an illyrian town where Kostandin was born.
(ina caci)
-
I think you read too many fantasy books, corresponding to Lord of the Rings style... :)

Apparently you are one of the greatest contributors to this level of communication. Congratulations on your achievement and to B92 for being so selective and biased in the messages that allows through.
(miri, 12 March 2010 17:51)

----------------------

So miri, how do you know how many messages don't make it through?
What about reasons they don't get through? Do you know that as well?

God most of the comments posted here are so illogical and a true reflection of the mentality holding the Balkan region backward. Grow up people it doesn't matter which land belongs to whom, it's irrelevant. It's time for Balkan nations to unite and integrate into the EU. Cooperation is your only hope!

Luis, justified? maybe. But, practical? Definitely not. Impulsive? Overwhelmingly. The Balkans, in a nutshell.

That's what Germans thought of your kind not long ago. You received billions from them in the last 20 years and u live a little better now, and yet are passing judgements upon others.

Remember Poland is not the cream of the crop of science and technlogy, even though you are 20 times more than Albanians, and Albanians only 50 yrs ago were 1 mil people all together, yet with figures like Scanderbeg, Mother Teresa, are far ahead from you I think.
I mean come on, if it was a German, Fin or a French to say this, I will swallow hard and agree to it, but a Polish guy ... give me a break.
(Denis, 13 March 2010 22:50)

And Germans received billions from the USA (ever heard of the Marshall Plan?), so what's your point?

Albanians ahead of Poland? I have never heard of any Albanian scientists on the scale of Copernicus, Lukasiewicz and Curie-Sklodowska. Mother Teresa and Skenderbeg have nothing to do with science or technology (also, how are they greater than Pope John Paul II and Jan III Sobieski).

And what was the point of using Fins as an example over us? They are richer because they didn't have 50 years of communism. That's all.

Improvement of bilateral cooperation especially in the field of economy?!

What does albania have to offer??

Does Serbia really need more Donkeys imported from albania?

"Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić said that relations between Serbia and Albanian are burdened by political disagreements regarding Kosovo’s status. "

Serbia vs pregressive world.
Again, agreed to disagree, and for Serbia this is as commen as having daily cafees...but where is this leading Serbia...

Let me help you - ISOLATION


"Meta will be in the Preševo Valley region on Saturday, "...

Well, well, Meta is looking strategically to this soon-will-be-again-Albanian land about how to improve the infrastrcture in not to distant future...

First he ought to do on saturday an informal analysis and mini feasibility study.

Mr. Meta, Albania doesn't need good relations with Serbia. Serbians are living in Illyrian Lands. Serbians shoulg go back to Syberia. Albanians are in their own lands. Ina from Tirana.

PRN, ethnic Albanians from Preševo are integrated into Serbian institutions. They vote in Serbian elections and are Serbian citzens.

However, we have our eye on Serbian lands in Albania where 30,000 Serbians live. Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbs_in_Albania

PRN

You are contradicting yourself. First you say that Serbia should go with the flow and recognize Kosovo. Then you say that soon Presevo will be albanian. Before you have said that territory to Nis belongs to albanians. And you are surprised Serbia doesn't want to recognize Kosovo?
Serbia should just give you territory and "go with the flow". Either you are just kidding or truly ignorant and foolish.
Oh, and one more thing. KEEP DREAMING! You don't even have Kosovo much less anything else.

"Kosovo is Albanian as it always has been."
ina caci

Then how come all the towns and cities in Kosovo have Serbian names? I'll tell you why! Kosovo has never been albanian. Albania is for albanians! Not Kosovo, not Montenegro, not Macedonia and not Serbia.

"Serbian-Albanian relations key for stability"

...of the Southern part.

Sorry that "key" is lost somewhere...be sure to keep the doors locked.

Kosovo is Albanian as it always has been. Nis is Albanian too. Do yoy know what Nis means in Serbian? No, because there is no meaning in Serbian languange. Well in Albania, Nis mean the One. Nis, an illyrian town where Kostandin was born.

Mr. Meta, Albania doesn't need good relations with Serbia. Serbians are living in Illyrian Lands. Serbians shoulg go back to Syberia. Albanians are in their own lands. Ina from Tirana.
(ina caci, 12 March 2010 13:02)

Attention all trolls,

Go back to Dardania from whence you came.

On 12 March 2010 12:26, bganon wrote: "And as you know if Meta does travel to Presevo he will have received permission from the Serbian authorities."

Huh? That sounds .... Soviet Union like. "No, you can't go there. No, you can't go there either. No, you need permission to do that. And that too."

Would I also need special permission from the government if I wanted to see Presevo?

Is there something down there that should not see the light of day? Something hidden? Something dangerous?
--

They all have to bow to Serbia if they want to move ahead.He should pick all albanians not happy to live in Serbia and take them back to that wonder land of human rights and wealth.

Perhaps you should wonder what else Meta and Tadic made agreements on?
(bganon, 12 March 2010 12:26)

Agreement to set up a special zoo for trolls maybe? I see already two interesting specimens here, one male and one female. Maybe good for start, but I am scared to think, what kind of offspring could be the result of such experiments.

answer to Predrag: serbia is already wide known for its donkeys and donkey's milk products. See the link below, perhaps you will recognize this native serbian donkey:
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=03&dd=08&nav_id=65668

"Kosovo is Albanian as it always has been. Nis is Albanian too. Do yoy know what Nis means in Serbian? No, because there is no meaning in Serbian languange. Well in Albania, Nis mean the One. Nis, an illyrian town where Kostandin was born.
(ina caci, 12 March 2010 13:33)"

Miss Ina, Meta is a greek word which means "after", also i present to you a map showing Serbian toponyms in albania, covering each inch of albanian space:

http://www.kroraina.com/seli_sna/selish_slavic.gif

By meeting with Meta Serbia is choosing isolation prn?
Very intelligent comment!
And as you know if Meta does travel to Presevo he will have received permission from the Serbian authorities. That kind of agreement is struck usually in return for something else.

Perhaps you should wonder what else Meta and Tadic made agreements on?

They all have to bow to Serbia if they want to move ahead.He should pick all albanians not happy to live in Serbia and take them back to that wonder land of human rights and wealth.
(lids, 12 March 2010 16:48)

I truly hope that most of the Serbs don't think this way, if history should have taught you anything .... but it's up to you.


Pyrros, it doesn't take a genious to know that the slavic names of the Alb areas are of course from the time of slavic invasions. There is not only Serbian names, there is Bulgarian ones as well. And because Alb was not a written language they stays as such Slavic, not tyhe names of smaller areas and streets and passages though they are albanian.

In fact some slavic named areas in south are claimed to be Greek lands from your extremists.... so u have a contradiction there.

PRN

Since when do Albanians belong to the progressive world? Albanians are (aside from Moldovans) the poorest nation in Europe, and hardly the first nation that pops into mind when talking about progression in technology, science, economics and sport.

And why would you want to steal more lands that don't belong to you? Europe already has one black hole/drug centre/criminal haven called Kosovo. Do you really want more of those?

Its time to bury the hatchet. About Kosovo, it has not been a better solution than independence, until now anyway, the future can offer something different.

I feel, Tadic and Meta at this moment read all these comments, look at each other and say only one thing: "what the hack??"

Reminds me of a very meaningful debate on youtube. It begun with an important topic regarding who invented the fustanella: Dorians or Illyrians. The debate continued into sexual theology (i.e. "God should punish the private parts of your momma") and finished with anthropological study ("what I have under my fustanella is bigger than what you have under yours!").

We are almost reached that level, just try harder.

We are almost reached that level, just try harder.
(Ataman, 12 March 2010 15:51)

Apparently you are one of the greatest contributors to this level of communication. Congratulations on your achievement and to B92 for being so selective and biased in the messages that allows through.

“The future of the entire Western Balkans is in the European Union. -and Jeremic on the top of officiell Belgrade will do everything to discourage this future.

"Peace and stability depends a great deal on relations between Serbs and Albanians" Its very surprising to hear that from Jeremic, who with his behaviour and statement shows that he do not respect any nation in the region except his own.

Interesting that a kind of reception Ilir Meta did get from Belgrade. Only to remember for Belgrade he is a foreign minister of a country who is the stronges supporter of the justified and legal independence of Kosovo !!!

what kind of offspring could be the result of such experiments.
(Ataman, 12 March 2010 13:47)

Well, there already are some interesting specimens posting on this site, not need to name them....and a lot of presidential and PM candidates the day the Pristina thugs will be removed!

Good that the meeting took place and it looks like Tadic has no problem to shake hands with politician officialy representing a real country!!

Kosovo is Albanian as it always has been. Nis is Albanian too. Do yoy know what Nis means in Serbian? No, because there is no meaning in Serbian languange. Well in Albania, Nis mean the One. Nis, an illyrian town where Kostandin was born.
(ina caci, 12 March 2010 13:33)

Sorry to burst your Illyrian bubble but Nis is named after the first Christian Roman Emperor, Constantine the Great. If you have ever visited NIS, you would see the Roman walls that surround the city.

Hans Christian stop being so blatantly selective and biased.
I guess you wouldn't support your "anti-soviet" "pro-western" "anti-slav" "pro-democratic" ideas, if it was e.g. for some Serb politician to visit Serb enclaves in Kosovo?

Or even the "DEMOCRATIC" will of N.Kosovo to join Serbia...
Or even RepSrpska to DEMOCRATICALLY join Serbia..

PS
The use of the word "soviet" as a term of low value seem to sound nothing in comparison to the term "WESTERN hypocrisy"

Is there something down there that should not see the light of day? Something hidden? Something dangerous?
--
(Jan Andersen (DK), 12 March 2010 19:14)

Oh you got them there! There are many secrets down south, beginning with the underground donkey-cloning facilities where they create genetically-superior donkeys from which this famous cheese comes from. God, I hope that the labs have not been discovered...!

Goes without saying;and those who shout louder aginst are the ones who are best aware of it

Judging by the political situation at the moment, how come they've allowed you to visit Preshevo Valley Mr Meta? I just hope that you didn't sign anything stupid behind closed doors. I Hope Not!!!!

Apparently you are one of the greatest contributors to this level of communication. Congratulations on your achievement and to B92 for being so selective and biased in the messages that allows through.
(miri, 12 March 2010 17:51)

This could be true, but you know, it is also very depressing to see a sufficiently large group lacking any humor.

Miss Ina, Meta is a greek word which means "after", also i present to you a map showing Serbian toponyms in albania, covering each inch of albanian space:

[link]
(Pyrros, 12 March 2010 16:47)
Pyrros, Thank you very much for your comment. I agree. But you have to agree as well that Kosovo is Serbia as much as whole Albania and North part of today Greece is Serbia too based on those toponyms. Does 13 century, when Serbian Empire has occupied even half of Greece for long time. Does it make Greece any Serbian at all? Coincidently, whole area that you describe with Serbian toponyms are Albanian area which include Cameria in North of today Greece. That’s means that even Greece don’t bother to change those toponyms because those are not Greece land anyway.
BalkanUpates

Kosovo is Albanian as it always has been. Nis is Albanian too. Do yoy know what Nis means in Serbian? No, because there is no meaning in Serbian languange. Well in Albania, Nis mean the One. Nis, an illyrian town where Kostandin was born.
(ina caci, 12 March 2010 13:33)

Who's "Konstandin"??

Well, I personally like to flirt with the idea that this meeting and hopefully many others in the future, will demonstrate that the Balkans need not become the lands of the masochists and the dumb.
(Ment, 12 March 2010 19:58)

it doesn't need become the lands of the masochists and the dumb since already is precisely that. and every chance to change this is being missed coz my superpower protector is cooler than yours, yo!

(Pyrros, 12 March 2010 16:47)

What a great advantage, what a great website, amazing. I'll follow your posts for the links, that's sure.

"Well, I personally like to flirt with the idea that this meeting and hopefully many others in the future, will demonstrate that the Balkans need not become the lands of the masochists and the dumb." (Ment)

-- Now why do you have to go and ruin the fun of seeing who has the bigger -- um, history -- than the other with something like common sense and rationality Ment? That's not going to win you much friends around here :P

Kosovo is Albanian as it always has been. Nis is Albanian too. Do yoy know what Nis means in Serbian? No, because there is no meaning in Serbian languange. Well in Albania, Nis mean the One. Nis, an illyrian town where Kostandin was born.
(ina caci)
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I think you read too many fantasy books, corresponding to Lord of the Rings style... :)

I mean come on, if it was a German, Fin or a French to say this, I will swallow hard and agree to it, but a Polish guy ... give me a break.
(Denis, 13 March 2010 22:50)

Fin but not Polish?!

"That's what Germans thought of your kind not long ago."
(Denis)

What the Germans thought about ANY kind.., not long ago?

You better start again, from the scratch!

Is there something down there that should not see the light of day? Something hidden? Something dangerous?
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(Jan Andersen (DK), 12 March 2010 19:14)

Not at all - but as a VIP and if on official visit you can't do what you want. There is a certain pre-arranged protocol and a large group of people is working behind the scenes to ensure, everything goes smoothly. There is a lot of reasons for that - beginning with security and ending with the concern that there won't be any PR disaster.

Two things come in mind:

1) Kouchner's outburst
2) László Sólyom who as a head of the state is a complete PR disaster by himself and is a rare example of a president who is barely on speaking term with every neighbor of the country. It is a common knowledge that it's very difficult to work with him and this is why so many of his visits into neighbor countries are "private". Like in last few cases he became a pain in the rear for his counterparts as diverse as Yulia Timoshenko or Boris Tadic.

Good we see things going so far smooth on this Serbian-Albanian meeting.

peter sudyka,
our contribution to science:Ferid Murati,nobel price laura Mersini,medal for physik,our contribution to humanity Mother teresa ,nobel price,and Righthous among the nation ,given by yash vadem for saving jews,our contribution to mondial entertaiment:john Belushi(the blue brother) Inva mula,and other opera singers,our contribution to litterature Viktor eftemiu,ismael kadare,Sami frasheri ,helena gjika,our contribution to art Angelin preljocaj,liri begeja,our contribution to sportCana,xhemaili,behrami,etc etc
See famous albanian and be less stupid:our possiblity to express talents were crashed by serbia ,
The fact that albanians contribute to culture in all countries except serbia is significant.

Now why do you have to go and ruin the fun of seeing who has the bigger -- um, history -- than the other with something like common sense and rationality Ment? That's not going to win you much friends around here :P
(Mike, 12 March 2010 22:49)

Yes, the ones who are going in the details what their opponents do NOT have under the fustanella are usually here on vacation only.

Imagine, you have a wet dream that you rally in your 1975 model Trabant around Tatabánya heroically protecting the Turul statue from Serbs / Croats. Than out of sudden you wake up...

....And there you are, in your humble 4000 sq ft. home in N.Y. State and tomorrow is the appointment for the first smog test of your 2007 Lexus. And not just the only Serb around is the Slovene waiter of the Cafe Jadran in close-by Mamakating - but you can't even drive cars with manual transmission.

It's pretty horrible situation - your only way out of the depression is to go on B92 and play the cyber-ogre.

:-D

Since when do Albanians belong to the progressive world? Albanians are (aside from Moldovans) the poorest nation in Europe, and hardly the first nation that pops into mind when talking about progression in technology, science, economics and sport.

And why would you want to steal more lands that don't belong to you? (Peter Sudyka, 12 March 2010 21:40)

That's what Germans thought of your kind not long ago. You received billions from them in the last 20 years and u live a little better now, and yet are passing judgements upon others.

Remember Poland is not the cream of the crop of science and technlogy, even though you are 20 times more than Albanians, and Albanians only 50 yrs ago were 1 mil people all together, yet with figures like Scanderbeg, Mother Teresa, are far ahead from you I think.
I mean come on, if it was a German, Fin or a French to say this, I will swallow hard and agree to it, but a Polish guy ... give me a break.

God most of the comments posted here are so illogical and a true reflection of the mentality holding the Balkan region backward. Grow up people it doesn't matter which land belongs to whom, it's irrelevant. It's time for Balkan nations to unite and integrate into the EU. Cooperation is your only hope!

quote Peter Sudyka on:

[Since when do Albanians belong to the progressive world? Albanians are (aside from Moldovans) the poorest nation in Europe, and hardly the first nation that pops into mind when talking about progression in technology, science, economics and sport.

And why would you want to steal more lands that don't belong to you? Europe already has one black hole/drug centre/criminal haven called Kosovo. Do you really want more of those?]

@ Peter and all Albanians or non Albanians: we should all avoid this cheap rhetoric that won't take our countries far. Yes, Albania can be a poor country and it is still trying to recover the lost time for which, the long communist isolation is the only one to be blamed. However, progress is not measured only on economic terms. Progress to me, also means how a civil society treats its own citizens regardless of their ethnic backgrounds, race and so on. I believe that all of us as Balkanians should set our differences apart and work together and before we do that, we need to change our mentality and approach to resolving old and inherited issues. Pointing fingers at one another won't take us far. Nationalism didn't take any of us far neither. We can't decide who our neighbours should be and we share a lot more than we like to admit. Let's learn from the errors of the past and let's try to build a peaceful future together. If anything, do it for your children, let them live in a better world than the one you are currently living in.

cheers

I'd say many of the comments here are quite bizarre...

So if I got this right, many of the posters here believe that our ancestors had so much fun slaughtering each other over the centuries that their dying wish were for this generation and all the ones to come to keep doing the same...

Well, I personally like to flirt with the idea that this meeting and hopefully many others in the future, will demonstrate that the Balkans need not become the lands of the masochists and the dumb.

Luis, justified? maybe. But, practical? Definitely not. Impulsive? Overwhelmingly. The Balkans, in a nutshell.

Apparently you are one of the greatest contributors to this level of communication. Congratulations on your achievement and to B92 for being so selective and biased in the messages that allows through.
(miri, 12 March 2010 17:51)

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So miri, how do you know how many messages don't make it through?
What about reasons they don't get through? Do you know that as well?

That's what Germans thought of your kind not long ago. You received billions from them in the last 20 years and u live a little better now, and yet are passing judgements upon others.

Remember Poland is not the cream of the crop of science and technlogy, even though you are 20 times more than Albanians, and Albanians only 50 yrs ago were 1 mil people all together, yet with figures like Scanderbeg, Mother Teresa, are far ahead from you I think.
I mean come on, if it was a German, Fin or a French to say this, I will swallow hard and agree to it, but a Polish guy ... give me a break.
(Denis, 13 March 2010 22:50)

And Germans received billions from the USA (ever heard of the Marshall Plan?), so what's your point?

Albanians ahead of Poland? I have never heard of any Albanian scientists on the scale of Copernicus, Lukasiewicz and Curie-Sklodowska. Mother Teresa and Skenderbeg have nothing to do with science or technology (also, how are they greater than Pope John Paul II and Jan III Sobieski).

And what was the point of using Fins as an example over us? They are richer because they didn't have 50 years of communism. That's all.