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Thaci "ready to shake hands with Tadić"

Kosovo Albanian Prime Minister Hashim Thaci says that he is ready to speak and shake hands with President Boris Tadić.

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BBM

pre 14 godina

I see a lot of people complaining about Thaci. He is just an example of what every politician is, "he just don't know how to hide it" (Tony Montana). Maybe Albanians should send Rasim Thaci aka Cima instead, Serbs would like it. At the end of the day it doesn't matter who it is that Tadic is negotiating with, the important thing is that he or she will be Kosovo's PM and he or she will voice Kosovo's opinion. Serbia and Kosovo need to catch up with the rest of the world but before they do that they need to squash this tension. Negotiations between them are inevitable so the sooner they happen the sooner we can all move on.
Cheers!

Peggy

pre 14 godina

How can Serbia ask for negotations when they are unwilling to engage respectfully the leaders of Kosovan albanians who were democratically elected?... (Nikshala)>
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Your "elected leaders" are illegitimate as representatives of a country because "Kosova" is illegitimate for a start.

Serbia is more than happy to speak to these leaders but only if they represent Albanians of Kosovo in any capacity other than the one they do now in.
Serbia is ready to engage in negotiations but not as equal republics.

Milan

pre 14 godina

Serbs shold respect the will of the Dardanians to have their own independent republic for a lasting of peace and reconciliation of both peoples.
(skiff, 11 March 2010 20:53)

What "Dardanians"???? Tribe who don't existed from 2000 years???? Or maybE You think about Albanians?? But Albanians have their own independent state - Republic of Albania.

vito

pre 14 godina

Dont get exited abaut the handshake its the game after all and its not going to happen.And Kosovo status ait gona change either. peace

skiff

pre 14 godina

Of course Tadic is against Kosovo as an independent state. He's the President of Serbia and you can understand he's slightly p***ed off seeing 18% of his country which also contains an important part of his heritage, illegally sliced off. Just put yourself in his shoes. How would you feel?
______________________

Has any serb leader ever try to put his shoes in the position of Albanians/Dardanians?

Divided form the beggining of History, conquered by Romans, slavs, turks,..., time comes around 1800ds when we demanded unification for our culture to survive, found more then half of the population left out in the newly created small Albania, Now that is might makes right, whith no voice no allies and a weak state, so it didnt matter if the big powers caused Albania territorial injustice they are famous for that for causing injustices around the world. Serbs have historically been more fortunate, always having the backing of Russia and a voice in the Balkans.

US support has also been historical for us, Woodrow Wilson US president's words saved Modern Albania form further being completly partritioned amog its neighbours (serbs and greeks.

Serbs shold respect the will of the Dardanians to have their own independent republic for a lasting of peace and reconciliation of both peoples.

Mirub Jager

pre 14 godina

Secondly, he would most definitley have shaken hands with a decent and honourable man like Rugova and would most likely extend or accept an act of friendship from Surroi. Hell, he would even shake hands with Kurti :)

Just get rid of Thaci please.
(Niall O'Doherty, 10 March 2010 15:41)


You are so wrong. From all the people that you wrote about Rugova would not extend his hand to any Serb politician.

1. His uncle and grandfether were killed by Serb Gandarmarie.
2. Year 2004. On the way to a conference with US then ambassador in Kosovo Mrs Kaidanov, the leaders of Kosovo were joined by Ms Traikovic and Mr Ivanovic. Rugova was the only one not to shake hands nor converse with Kosovo-Serb leaders eventhough he was advised to do so. I'm a living witness of this.
3. He saw too much suffering to sit with Tadic or any other. Rugova-Milosevic handshaking was done while under duress and as his family was kidnapped and held hostage.

Mirub Jager

pre 14 godina

Thaci will loose the next elections held in Kosovo. Tadic will win again based on his two-faced game in Serbian politics that he plays. Thus, Tadic should not waste time with Thaci.

However, Tadic shouldn't go to Slovenia either no matter the name on rep-plate. One has to realize that once one sits on the same row of chairs with another it implies a balanced status among them. So the two-faced game that I mentioned above is nothing but a statement of unreasonable requests with desire to participate, this way tricking Serbians into a farce patriotic stand. Hence collecting the votes from pro-integration voters on one hand and pro-isolation on the other.

Jovan

pre 14 godina

I am convinced that Touchy would be glad to shake hands with Tadic, but ...why should an elected president shake hands with a simple criminal???

kalimero

pre 14 godina

Tadic is genuine when he reaches out to his Albanian countrymen so I think you should accept his gracious offer. Its up to you but sitting down and talking to Tadic would be a start. Surroi has indirectly hinted that he would. Rugova is sorely missed.
(Niall O'Doherty, 11 March 2010 12:02)
Niall, you won't find a single Kosovar Albanian, let alone a politician or leader, who would be willing to give up independence from Serbia. Why would they? Tadic may be a great guy for all that matters, but he represents a state that is demonstrably hostile to them and now just likes to pretend they don't exist. Serbia still wants to dominate Kosovo, but the reality is that it has no clout to do that. So Tadic's gracious hand is that of a master stretched to a servant. I don't think I need to stress that there is no Kosovar Albanian who'd be willing to kneel down and kiss it.

Jason

pre 14 godina

My previous statement was a direct response to a most frivolous complaint that B-92 covered one story and not one regarding Iranians.
(Jason, 10 March 2010 21:25) '

Wrong. B92 did cover the story, but no one commented on it. That was the question you replied to.
(BH_NYC, 11 March 2010 12:08)

I guess you are confused so I will help you to understand what I was saying...

My point was in response to a remark about people not discussing the situation in Iran. No one disputes the lack of value of Iranian lives but because this news site is a Serbian one, most posts and commentary relate to Serbia and the Kosovo issue. This is very simple so please try and stay with me...

Regarding Iraq and Afghanistan I am saying it is funny that no Albanians question US human rights violations in Iraq and Afghanistan despite being so supposedly concerned with human rights. The US, Afghanistan, and Iraq is indeed relevant because Kosovo/Albania is a client-state of the USA. Kosovo Albanians claim that human rights violations entitle them to their own state. This is all completely relevant.

Still with me?

Iran has nothing to do with the Serbian v. Albanian issue in Kosovo. Understand now?

BH_NYC

pre 14 godina

'My previous statement was a direct response to a most frivolous complaint that B-92 covered one story and not one regarding Iranians.
(Jason, 10 March 2010 21:25) '

Wrong. B92 did cover the story, but no one commented on it. That was the question you replied to.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

Well, no. Tadic is against Kosovo's existence as an independent state, so he'll refuse to speak to ANY Kosovar leader, regardless of his reputation.
I agree with you that Surroi is a far better choice than Thaci in every way, but it would not help relations with Serbia one bit.
(kalimero, 10 March 2010 21:20)

Of course Tadic is against Kosovo as an independent state. He's the President of Serbia and you can understand he's slightly p***ed off seeing 18% of his country which also contains an important part of his heritage, illegally sliced off. Just put yourself in his shoes. How would you feel?

Now I have never met Tadic but he comes accross as a decent guy yet many Albanians here absolutley hate his guts including our spiteful, hateful and bitter friend, roberto.

Tadic is genuine when he reaches out to his Albanian countrymen so I think you should accept his gracious offer. Its up to you but sitting down and talking to Tadic would be a start. Surroi has indirectly hinted that he would. Rugova is sorely missed.

jesse

pre 14 godina

Serbia is using the Serbs in northern Kosovo as the tools to keep the tensions and instability in this new country.Millions are pured in from Belgrade and Moscow every year to keep their alliance to Belgrade instead of Pristina.The money is paid mostly to a small group of Serbian hooligans who keep their residencies in Serbia proper but operate in Northern Kosovo.International organization are aware of them and so is Kosovo officials.In time they will be removed from Kosovo.This is not the first time Serbia has used its compatriots to hold another country hostage.They tried the same thing in Krajina with terrible consequences for hundred of thousands of ethnic Serbs.North of Ibar river there is less than 40 thousands Serbs mixed with tens of thousands of Albanians.The total population of Kosovo will be well over 3 million.There is no question that the criminals in North can not roam free forever. Lawless North has to be incorporated and managed.The patience that Mr Thaci and other Kosovo leaders have demonstrated before is commendable.K Serbs should take advantage of this sooner than later.The double salaries from Serbia someday will vanish leaving them high and dry.

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

Since when is Thaci ready to shake hands with Tadic? What agreement have they reached to hit a point of shaking hands? I think Thaci has been smoking a bit too much of his own product ;)

Danny

pre 14 godina

French minister's remark in Kosovo criticized
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hngzfxtrSIOVGJFSatOpVPZE-b0gD9EBQ9OG2

Asked about the organization's criticism, French Foreign Ministry officials in Paris declined to comment immediately.


French Foreign Minister Kouchner Refers to Voice of America Reporter in Kosovo as 'Sick' and 'Insane'
http://www.seemo.org/activities/pressfreedom/10/press1019.html

Vienna, 10 March 2010

The South East Europe Media Organisation (SEEMO), an affiliate of the International Press Institute (IPI), strongly condemns the manner in which French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner behaved towards Budimir Nicic, a Voice of America reporter, in the Kosovo town of Gracanica.

On 2 March 2010, Kouchner, who was UN administrator in Kosovo from 1999 until 2001, visited Gracanica, where Nicic posed a question about Kouchner's view regarding human organ trafficking allegations. Kouchner was asked to comment on the claims by the families of Serbs kidnapped and murdered in Kosovo.

As a reaction, Kouchner, according to media reports, laughed out loud and said to the journalist, in French (SEEMO/IPI translation into English) : But you are sick, aren't you? Do I look like someone who would traffic organs? You are insane, to believe all kinds of nonsense like that…. Sir, you should consult (a doctor). There was no yellow house, there was no organ trade. People who talk about things like that are bastards and murderers. Kouchner's answer is posted in the form of video material on different websites, including Youtube.

The claims about organ trafficking are also mentioned in a book published by former Hague Tribunal Chief Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte. There were also different reports about this case in media. The case was also investigated by the Serbian War Crimes Prosecution, and was addressed in several international reports. According to these sources, hundreds of Serb civilians were kidnapped in Kosovo in 1999 and then their vital organs were removed and sold on the black market. One of the locations mentioned as the possible place where the kidnapped civilians were operated on was a house with a yellow front wall (yellow house).

SEEMO is surprised at this manner of communication by an official representative of the French government. The behaviour by the French Foreign Minister was not professional and it is not a way in which a state official should be communicating with a journalist, said SEEMO Secretary General Oliver Vujovic.

Vujovic added: Of course, the journalist might have formulated his question differently, but in asking the question he made clear the source of the information - in this case the families of kidnapped and murdered Serbs. It is unacceptable that a state official react in this aggressive manner. As a politician, and a member of the French government, he should communicate professionally and responsibly with journalists. We would have expected Mr. Kouchner to react in a more courteous and dignified way.

kalimero

pre 14 godina

"Tadic is genuine in wanting to extend the hand of friendship to Serbia's ethnic Albanians but not to the Snake, remember that. His quarrell is not with the ordinary Gjon, Gjergi, Agim, Mexhid, Enis, Teuta, Gonxha in the street who are struggle to make ends meet but with your KLA mafiosi leadership.

First of all Nikshala, get rid of the likes of Thaci and Haradinaj and elect genuine and upstanding politicians not drug running warlords.

Secondly, he would most definitley have shaken hands with a decent and honourable man like Rugova and would most likely extend or accept an act of friendship from Surroi. Hell, he would even shake hands with Kurti :)

Just get rid of Thaci please.
(Niall O'Doherty, 10 March 2010 15:41) "

Well, no. Tadic is against Kosovo's existence as an independent state, so he'll refuse to speak to ANY Kosovar leader, regardless of his reputation.
I agree with you that Surroi is a far better choice than Thaci in every way, but it would not help relations with Serbia one bit.

Jason

pre 14 godina

And this is what you said a couple of days ago when asked why no one gave a toss about Iranian lives:

'- Ummmm, because this is a SERBIAN news site and this latest incident involves citizens of SERBIA, not Iran.

(Jason, 2 March 2010 07:33) '
(BH_NYC, 10 March 2010, 17:33)

And your point is...?

My previous statement was a direct response to a most frivolous complaint that B-92 covered one story and not one regarding Iranians. I implied that because B-92 was a Serbian news site, the content is directed towards Serbs... an Iranian news site will direct content towards Iranians. Simple concept, no?

Nikshala,

You did not mention Afghans or Iraqis but that is irrelevant. I am pointing out the double-standard many of you have towards human rights violatiors, criminals, and whomever else. If a person is pro-Albanian then no matter how bad he or she is, you overlook it and it is a non-issue. This is a simple concept, please don't act like you don't see where I am coming from.

roberto

pre 14 godina

>I don't particularly like Thaci myself as a politician, but I want to ask the commentators below - how can you ever expect Kosovan albanians to ever even theoretically consider the idea of being in Serbia when we all know that the views expressed below are widespread among serbs?

How can Serbia ask for negotations when they are unwilling to engage respectfully the leaders of Kosovan albanians who were democratically elected?... (Nikshala)>

nobody can or even bothers to respond to that, nikshala, since they all know you're spot-on -- and none of them care. therefore we engage in these unceasing "dialogues" which are basically a series of running attacks and accusations with little point of intersection, followed by their demands to "return to status negotiations now -- or else!" so pathetic and bizarre.

thank you, again, nikshala, for pointing out the obvious.

roberto/ frisco

Peggy

pre 14 godina

If you were trying to enlighten the Albanian camp, then you should really find better sources for your arguments than Julia Gorin.

When it comes to credibility, she's a joke as far as Albos are concerned.
(Ment, 10 March 2010 17:42)

==================

Yes we know. Anyone who disagrees with you and tries to tell the truth is automatically pronounced not good.
Too bad, more people are joining the ranks of Julia.

The Swiss

pre 14 godina

compromises, and the Albanian delegation would look at their watches. Sabotaging the "negotiations" before each round"
[link]/
(Hank the Tank, 10 March 2010 16:46)

Nothing that we didn't already heard but schocking to read it all in a summary!

As to Thaci, well, shaking hands with such a criminal requires either not much respect for itself or looking for trouble.

Interesting that such kind of ..... person is trying to lecture us about fight on corruption, drug dealers and all kind of traffick etc...., where is the bucket pls!

The snake only ternish further the kosovo image, get rid of him and you are right Nial, too bad that Rugova is no longer alive things would be certainly different!

nikshala

pre 14 godina

"I guess Albanian lives are worth more than Afghan or Iraqi lives.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
(Jason, 10 March 2010 15:33) "

I have read my post again and again and but I cannot see any mention of Iraqi..Afghan and whatever else you were writing?! enlighten me......

So what is your opinion of Milosevic?

Ment

pre 14 godina

@Hank The Tank
==============

If you're trying to convince the pro-Serbian posters with that link, you probably just wasted your time...they're already convinced of their victimhood.

If you were trying to enlighten the Albanian camp, then you should really find better sources for your arguments than Julia Gorin.

When it comes to credibility, she's a joke as far as Albos are concerned.

BH_NYC

pre 14 godina

RE: ... but I guess Albanian lives are worth more than Afghan or Iraqi lives.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
(Jason, 10 March 2010 15:33) '

And this is what you said a couple of days ago when asked why no one gave a toss about Iranian lives:

'- Ummmm, because this is a SERBIAN news site and this latest incident involves citizens of SERBIA, not Iran.

(Jason, 2 March 2010 07:33) '

michael

pre 14 godina

After reading Thaci's statements regarding Serbians in Kosovo, I felt warm all over, I started to sweat, and then I ran to the porcelain god just in time. It was close, but I made it...

The reality is: http://vimeo.com/8606283

The realities in Kosovo for Serbs is a disasterous nightmare, and albanians have done everything in their limited power to destroy anything Serbian with the help of British and American forces.

Sad to say but let's be frank. If another terrorist attacks American soil, should the world feel sympathy after what we do on a daily basis? How about in the tubes of London for that matter? What the hell has happened to the USA I grew up believing in as a nation of justice and fair play? What happened to the country that fought oppression and Nazi Germany and defeated communism?

I can only hope and pray that this nation returns to it's roots which our founding fathers created and fought for.

Hank the Tank

pre 14 godina

If Thaci really wanted to improve relations with Serbia he would have to engage in new negotiations regarding Kosovos status.

"A clearer picture emerges of the "failed" negotiations between Belgrade and Pristina, to which the Serbian delegation would come with lists of various broad compromises, and the Albanian delegation would look at their watches. Sabotaging the "negotiations" before each round"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/04/the-blackmail-of-america/

ben

pre 14 godina

Thaci is giving way too much credit to Tadic.

Noble freedom fighters as Thaci should not shake hands with a nationalist coward who never did a thing in his life.

As a matter a fact it is Tadic that is hiding not Thaci... but Serbs are too much self-in loved to see...

Another Canadian Serb

pre 14 godina

Thaci should instead give his head a shake.

If i were Tadic and i had to shake Thaci's hand, i would wear a glove or two.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

I don't particularly like Thaci myself as a politician, but I want to ask the commentators below - how can you ever expect Kosovan albanians to ever even theoretically consider the idea of being in Serbia when we all know that the views expressed below are widespread among serbs?

How can Serbia ask for negotations when they are unwilling to engage respectfully the leaders of Kosovan albanians who were democratically elected?

With comments like you only confirm what the whole worlds know anyway. Listen to what Milo says about Serbia - you might learn something.
(nikshala, 10 March 2010 14:46)

simple, Thaci has shown no remorse for his past crimes against Serbs, Albanians and other loyal Yugoslav citizens whom his fascist drug running band inflicted death and misery.

Tadic is genuine in wanting to extend the hand of friendship to Serbia's ethnic Albanians but not to the Snake, remember that. His quarrell is not with the ordinary Gjon, Gjergi, Agim, Mexhid, Enis, Teuta, Gonxha in the street who are struggle to make ends meet but with your KLA mafiosi leadership.

First of all Nikshala, get rid of the likes of Thaci and Haradinaj and elect genuine and upstanding politicians not drug running warlords.

Secondly, he would most definitley have shaken hands with a decent and honourable man like Rugova and would most likely extend or accept an act of friendship from Surroi. Hell, he would even shake hands with Kurti :)

Just get rid of Thaci please.

Jason

pre 14 godina

Listen to what Milo says about Serbia - you might learn something.
(nikshala, 10 March 2010, 14:46)

Why would Serbs or anyone else want to listen to a criminal? I think it funny that the Albanian camp will overlook any criminal's actions - and I do mean ANY - if he/she tells the Albanians what they want to hear.

It is always a double-standard with you guys. You claim Milosevic should have been in the Hague for targeting civilians in Kosovo yet deny the same for Bush, Clinton and Blair despite the fact that they are guilty of doing far, far worse things to civilians... but I guess Albanian lives are worth more than Afghan or Iraqi lives.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

nikshala

pre 14 godina

I don't particularly like Thaci myself as a politician, but I want to ask the commentators below - how can you ever expect Kosovan albanians to ever even theoretically consider the idea of being in Serbia when we all know that the views expressed below are widespread among serbs?

How can Serbia ask for negotations when they are unwilling to engage respectfully the leaders of Kosovan albanians who were democratically elected?

With comments like you only confirm what the whole worlds know anyway. Listen to what Milo says about Serbia - you might learn something.

Daniel

pre 14 godina

When they shake hands, Tadic should place handcuffs on Thaci's wrists. Then, he'll need some hand sanitizer to kill the germs. You know from the organ harvesting and sex slavery business.

dean SRB

pre 14 godina

After he serves the sentence in Serbia for leading one terrorist organization in direct links will Al-Qaeda and called UCK everything is possible.

After all, in every legal state like Serbia, after serving community prison sentence he is a free men and as such legible to shake hands even with President.

So Thaci, don't jump over the required steps.

Jason

pre 14 godina

Listen to what Milo says about Serbia - you might learn something.
(nikshala, 10 March 2010, 14:46)

Why would Serbs or anyone else want to listen to a criminal? I think it funny that the Albanian camp will overlook any criminal's actions - and I do mean ANY - if he/she tells the Albanians what they want to hear.

It is always a double-standard with you guys. You claim Milosevic should have been in the Hague for targeting civilians in Kosovo yet deny the same for Bush, Clinton and Blair despite the fact that they are guilty of doing far, far worse things to civilians... but I guess Albanian lives are worth more than Afghan or Iraqi lives.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Daniel

pre 14 godina

When they shake hands, Tadic should place handcuffs on Thaci's wrists. Then, he'll need some hand sanitizer to kill the germs. You know from the organ harvesting and sex slavery business.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

I don't particularly like Thaci myself as a politician, but I want to ask the commentators below - how can you ever expect Kosovan albanians to ever even theoretically consider the idea of being in Serbia when we all know that the views expressed below are widespread among serbs?

How can Serbia ask for negotations when they are unwilling to engage respectfully the leaders of Kosovan albanians who were democratically elected?

With comments like you only confirm what the whole worlds know anyway. Listen to what Milo says about Serbia - you might learn something.
(nikshala, 10 March 2010 14:46)

simple, Thaci has shown no remorse for his past crimes against Serbs, Albanians and other loyal Yugoslav citizens whom his fascist drug running band inflicted death and misery.

Tadic is genuine in wanting to extend the hand of friendship to Serbia's ethnic Albanians but not to the Snake, remember that. His quarrell is not with the ordinary Gjon, Gjergi, Agim, Mexhid, Enis, Teuta, Gonxha in the street who are struggle to make ends meet but with your KLA mafiosi leadership.

First of all Nikshala, get rid of the likes of Thaci and Haradinaj and elect genuine and upstanding politicians not drug running warlords.

Secondly, he would most definitley have shaken hands with a decent and honourable man like Rugova and would most likely extend or accept an act of friendship from Surroi. Hell, he would even shake hands with Kurti :)

Just get rid of Thaci please.

dean SRB

pre 14 godina

After he serves the sentence in Serbia for leading one terrorist organization in direct links will Al-Qaeda and called UCK everything is possible.

After all, in every legal state like Serbia, after serving community prison sentence he is a free men and as such legible to shake hands even with President.

So Thaci, don't jump over the required steps.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 14 godina

Thaci should instead give his head a shake.

If i were Tadic and i had to shake Thaci's hand, i would wear a glove or two.

ben

pre 14 godina

Thaci is giving way too much credit to Tadic.

Noble freedom fighters as Thaci should not shake hands with a nationalist coward who never did a thing in his life.

As a matter a fact it is Tadic that is hiding not Thaci... but Serbs are too much self-in loved to see...

nikshala

pre 14 godina

I don't particularly like Thaci myself as a politician, but I want to ask the commentators below - how can you ever expect Kosovan albanians to ever even theoretically consider the idea of being in Serbia when we all know that the views expressed below are widespread among serbs?

How can Serbia ask for negotations when they are unwilling to engage respectfully the leaders of Kosovan albanians who were democratically elected?

With comments like you only confirm what the whole worlds know anyway. Listen to what Milo says about Serbia - you might learn something.

The Swiss

pre 14 godina

compromises, and the Albanian delegation would look at their watches. Sabotaging the "negotiations" before each round"
[link]/
(Hank the Tank, 10 March 2010 16:46)

Nothing that we didn't already heard but schocking to read it all in a summary!

As to Thaci, well, shaking hands with such a criminal requires either not much respect for itself or looking for trouble.

Interesting that such kind of ..... person is trying to lecture us about fight on corruption, drug dealers and all kind of traffick etc...., where is the bucket pls!

The snake only ternish further the kosovo image, get rid of him and you are right Nial, too bad that Rugova is no longer alive things would be certainly different!

Hank the Tank

pre 14 godina

If Thaci really wanted to improve relations with Serbia he would have to engage in new negotiations regarding Kosovos status.

"A clearer picture emerges of the "failed" negotiations between Belgrade and Pristina, to which the Serbian delegation would come with lists of various broad compromises, and the Albanian delegation would look at their watches. Sabotaging the "negotiations" before each round"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/04/the-blackmail-of-america/

michael

pre 14 godina

After reading Thaci's statements regarding Serbians in Kosovo, I felt warm all over, I started to sweat, and then I ran to the porcelain god just in time. It was close, but I made it...

The reality is: http://vimeo.com/8606283

The realities in Kosovo for Serbs is a disasterous nightmare, and albanians have done everything in their limited power to destroy anything Serbian with the help of British and American forces.

Sad to say but let's be frank. If another terrorist attacks American soil, should the world feel sympathy after what we do on a daily basis? How about in the tubes of London for that matter? What the hell has happened to the USA I grew up believing in as a nation of justice and fair play? What happened to the country that fought oppression and Nazi Germany and defeated communism?

I can only hope and pray that this nation returns to it's roots which our founding fathers created and fought for.

BH_NYC

pre 14 godina

RE: ... but I guess Albanian lives are worth more than Afghan or Iraqi lives.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
(Jason, 10 March 2010 15:33) '

And this is what you said a couple of days ago when asked why no one gave a toss about Iranian lives:

'- Ummmm, because this is a SERBIAN news site and this latest incident involves citizens of SERBIA, not Iran.

(Jason, 2 March 2010 07:33) '

nikshala

pre 14 godina

"I guess Albanian lives are worth more than Afghan or Iraqi lives.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
(Jason, 10 March 2010 15:33) "

I have read my post again and again and but I cannot see any mention of Iraqi..Afghan and whatever else you were writing?! enlighten me......

So what is your opinion of Milosevic?

Jason

pre 14 godina

And this is what you said a couple of days ago when asked why no one gave a toss about Iranian lives:

'- Ummmm, because this is a SERBIAN news site and this latest incident involves citizens of SERBIA, not Iran.

(Jason, 2 March 2010 07:33) '
(BH_NYC, 10 March 2010, 17:33)

And your point is...?

My previous statement was a direct response to a most frivolous complaint that B-92 covered one story and not one regarding Iranians. I implied that because B-92 was a Serbian news site, the content is directed towards Serbs... an Iranian news site will direct content towards Iranians. Simple concept, no?

Nikshala,

You did not mention Afghans or Iraqis but that is irrelevant. I am pointing out the double-standard many of you have towards human rights violatiors, criminals, and whomever else. If a person is pro-Albanian then no matter how bad he or she is, you overlook it and it is a non-issue. This is a simple concept, please don't act like you don't see where I am coming from.

roberto

pre 14 godina

>I don't particularly like Thaci myself as a politician, but I want to ask the commentators below - how can you ever expect Kosovan albanians to ever even theoretically consider the idea of being in Serbia when we all know that the views expressed below are widespread among serbs?

How can Serbia ask for negotations when they are unwilling to engage respectfully the leaders of Kosovan albanians who were democratically elected?... (Nikshala)>

nobody can or even bothers to respond to that, nikshala, since they all know you're spot-on -- and none of them care. therefore we engage in these unceasing "dialogues" which are basically a series of running attacks and accusations with little point of intersection, followed by their demands to "return to status negotiations now -- or else!" so pathetic and bizarre.

thank you, again, nikshala, for pointing out the obvious.

roberto/ frisco

Peggy

pre 14 godina

If you were trying to enlighten the Albanian camp, then you should really find better sources for your arguments than Julia Gorin.

When it comes to credibility, she's a joke as far as Albos are concerned.
(Ment, 10 March 2010 17:42)

==================

Yes we know. Anyone who disagrees with you and tries to tell the truth is automatically pronounced not good.
Too bad, more people are joining the ranks of Julia.

jesse

pre 14 godina

Serbia is using the Serbs in northern Kosovo as the tools to keep the tensions and instability in this new country.Millions are pured in from Belgrade and Moscow every year to keep their alliance to Belgrade instead of Pristina.The money is paid mostly to a small group of Serbian hooligans who keep their residencies in Serbia proper but operate in Northern Kosovo.International organization are aware of them and so is Kosovo officials.In time they will be removed from Kosovo.This is not the first time Serbia has used its compatriots to hold another country hostage.They tried the same thing in Krajina with terrible consequences for hundred of thousands of ethnic Serbs.North of Ibar river there is less than 40 thousands Serbs mixed with tens of thousands of Albanians.The total population of Kosovo will be well over 3 million.There is no question that the criminals in North can not roam free forever. Lawless North has to be incorporated and managed.The patience that Mr Thaci and other Kosovo leaders have demonstrated before is commendable.K Serbs should take advantage of this sooner than later.The double salaries from Serbia someday will vanish leaving them high and dry.

Milan

pre 14 godina

Serbs shold respect the will of the Dardanians to have their own independent republic for a lasting of peace and reconciliation of both peoples.
(skiff, 11 March 2010 20:53)

What "Dardanians"???? Tribe who don't existed from 2000 years???? Or maybE You think about Albanians?? But Albanians have their own independent state - Republic of Albania.

kalimero

pre 14 godina

Tadic is genuine when he reaches out to his Albanian countrymen so I think you should accept his gracious offer. Its up to you but sitting down and talking to Tadic would be a start. Surroi has indirectly hinted that he would. Rugova is sorely missed.
(Niall O'Doherty, 11 March 2010 12:02)
Niall, you won't find a single Kosovar Albanian, let alone a politician or leader, who would be willing to give up independence from Serbia. Why would they? Tadic may be a great guy for all that matters, but he represents a state that is demonstrably hostile to them and now just likes to pretend they don't exist. Serbia still wants to dominate Kosovo, but the reality is that it has no clout to do that. So Tadic's gracious hand is that of a master stretched to a servant. I don't think I need to stress that there is no Kosovar Albanian who'd be willing to kneel down and kiss it.

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

Since when is Thaci ready to shake hands with Tadic? What agreement have they reached to hit a point of shaking hands? I think Thaci has been smoking a bit too much of his own product ;)

Jovan

pre 14 godina

I am convinced that Touchy would be glad to shake hands with Tadic, but ...why should an elected president shake hands with a simple criminal???

Mirub Jager

pre 14 godina

Secondly, he would most definitley have shaken hands with a decent and honourable man like Rugova and would most likely extend or accept an act of friendship from Surroi. Hell, he would even shake hands with Kurti :)

Just get rid of Thaci please.
(Niall O'Doherty, 10 March 2010 15:41)


You are so wrong. From all the people that you wrote about Rugova would not extend his hand to any Serb politician.

1. His uncle and grandfether were killed by Serb Gandarmarie.
2. Year 2004. On the way to a conference with US then ambassador in Kosovo Mrs Kaidanov, the leaders of Kosovo were joined by Ms Traikovic and Mr Ivanovic. Rugova was the only one not to shake hands nor converse with Kosovo-Serb leaders eventhough he was advised to do so. I'm a living witness of this.
3. He saw too much suffering to sit with Tadic or any other. Rugova-Milosevic handshaking was done while under duress and as his family was kidnapped and held hostage.

kalimero

pre 14 godina

"Tadic is genuine in wanting to extend the hand of friendship to Serbia's ethnic Albanians but not to the Snake, remember that. His quarrell is not with the ordinary Gjon, Gjergi, Agim, Mexhid, Enis, Teuta, Gonxha in the street who are struggle to make ends meet but with your KLA mafiosi leadership.

First of all Nikshala, get rid of the likes of Thaci and Haradinaj and elect genuine and upstanding politicians not drug running warlords.

Secondly, he would most definitley have shaken hands with a decent and honourable man like Rugova and would most likely extend or accept an act of friendship from Surroi. Hell, he would even shake hands with Kurti :)

Just get rid of Thaci please.
(Niall O'Doherty, 10 March 2010 15:41) "

Well, no. Tadic is against Kosovo's existence as an independent state, so he'll refuse to speak to ANY Kosovar leader, regardless of his reputation.
I agree with you that Surroi is a far better choice than Thaci in every way, but it would not help relations with Serbia one bit.

Danny

pre 14 godina

French minister's remark in Kosovo criticized
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hngzfxtrSIOVGJFSatOpVPZE-b0gD9EBQ9OG2

Asked about the organization's criticism, French Foreign Ministry officials in Paris declined to comment immediately.


French Foreign Minister Kouchner Refers to Voice of America Reporter in Kosovo as 'Sick' and 'Insane'
http://www.seemo.org/activities/pressfreedom/10/press1019.html

Vienna, 10 March 2010

The South East Europe Media Organisation (SEEMO), an affiliate of the International Press Institute (IPI), strongly condemns the manner in which French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner behaved towards Budimir Nicic, a Voice of America reporter, in the Kosovo town of Gracanica.

On 2 March 2010, Kouchner, who was UN administrator in Kosovo from 1999 until 2001, visited Gracanica, where Nicic posed a question about Kouchner's view regarding human organ trafficking allegations. Kouchner was asked to comment on the claims by the families of Serbs kidnapped and murdered in Kosovo.

As a reaction, Kouchner, according to media reports, laughed out loud and said to the journalist, in French (SEEMO/IPI translation into English) : But you are sick, aren't you? Do I look like someone who would traffic organs? You are insane, to believe all kinds of nonsense like that…. Sir, you should consult (a doctor). There was no yellow house, there was no organ trade. People who talk about things like that are bastards and murderers. Kouchner's answer is posted in the form of video material on different websites, including Youtube.

The claims about organ trafficking are also mentioned in a book published by former Hague Tribunal Chief Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte. There were also different reports about this case in media. The case was also investigated by the Serbian War Crimes Prosecution, and was addressed in several international reports. According to these sources, hundreds of Serb civilians were kidnapped in Kosovo in 1999 and then their vital organs were removed and sold on the black market. One of the locations mentioned as the possible place where the kidnapped civilians were operated on was a house with a yellow front wall (yellow house).

SEEMO is surprised at this manner of communication by an official representative of the French government. The behaviour by the French Foreign Minister was not professional and it is not a way in which a state official should be communicating with a journalist, said SEEMO Secretary General Oliver Vujovic.

Vujovic added: Of course, the journalist might have formulated his question differently, but in asking the question he made clear the source of the information - in this case the families of kidnapped and murdered Serbs. It is unacceptable that a state official react in this aggressive manner. As a politician, and a member of the French government, he should communicate professionally and responsibly with journalists. We would have expected Mr. Kouchner to react in a more courteous and dignified way.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

How can Serbia ask for negotations when they are unwilling to engage respectfully the leaders of Kosovan albanians who were democratically elected?... (Nikshala)>
=====================

Your "elected leaders" are illegitimate as representatives of a country because "Kosova" is illegitimate for a start.

Serbia is more than happy to speak to these leaders but only if they represent Albanians of Kosovo in any capacity other than the one they do now in.
Serbia is ready to engage in negotiations but not as equal republics.

Jason

pre 14 godina

My previous statement was a direct response to a most frivolous complaint that B-92 covered one story and not one regarding Iranians.
(Jason, 10 March 2010 21:25) '

Wrong. B92 did cover the story, but no one commented on it. That was the question you replied to.
(BH_NYC, 11 March 2010 12:08)

I guess you are confused so I will help you to understand what I was saying...

My point was in response to a remark about people not discussing the situation in Iran. No one disputes the lack of value of Iranian lives but because this news site is a Serbian one, most posts and commentary relate to Serbia and the Kosovo issue. This is very simple so please try and stay with me...

Regarding Iraq and Afghanistan I am saying it is funny that no Albanians question US human rights violations in Iraq and Afghanistan despite being so supposedly concerned with human rights. The US, Afghanistan, and Iraq is indeed relevant because Kosovo/Albania is a client-state of the USA. Kosovo Albanians claim that human rights violations entitle them to their own state. This is all completely relevant.

Still with me?

Iran has nothing to do with the Serbian v. Albanian issue in Kosovo. Understand now?

Ment

pre 14 godina

@Hank The Tank
==============

If you're trying to convince the pro-Serbian posters with that link, you probably just wasted your time...they're already convinced of their victimhood.

If you were trying to enlighten the Albanian camp, then you should really find better sources for your arguments than Julia Gorin.

When it comes to credibility, she's a joke as far as Albos are concerned.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

Well, no. Tadic is against Kosovo's existence as an independent state, so he'll refuse to speak to ANY Kosovar leader, regardless of his reputation.
I agree with you that Surroi is a far better choice than Thaci in every way, but it would not help relations with Serbia one bit.
(kalimero, 10 March 2010 21:20)

Of course Tadic is against Kosovo as an independent state. He's the President of Serbia and you can understand he's slightly p***ed off seeing 18% of his country which also contains an important part of his heritage, illegally sliced off. Just put yourself in his shoes. How would you feel?

Now I have never met Tadic but he comes accross as a decent guy yet many Albanians here absolutley hate his guts including our spiteful, hateful and bitter friend, roberto.

Tadic is genuine when he reaches out to his Albanian countrymen so I think you should accept his gracious offer. Its up to you but sitting down and talking to Tadic would be a start. Surroi has indirectly hinted that he would. Rugova is sorely missed.

skiff

pre 14 godina

Of course Tadic is against Kosovo as an independent state. He's the President of Serbia and you can understand he's slightly p***ed off seeing 18% of his country which also contains an important part of his heritage, illegally sliced off. Just put yourself in his shoes. How would you feel?
______________________

Has any serb leader ever try to put his shoes in the position of Albanians/Dardanians?

Divided form the beggining of History, conquered by Romans, slavs, turks,..., time comes around 1800ds when we demanded unification for our culture to survive, found more then half of the population left out in the newly created small Albania, Now that is might makes right, whith no voice no allies and a weak state, so it didnt matter if the big powers caused Albania territorial injustice they are famous for that for causing injustices around the world. Serbs have historically been more fortunate, always having the backing of Russia and a voice in the Balkans.

US support has also been historical for us, Woodrow Wilson US president's words saved Modern Albania form further being completly partritioned amog its neighbours (serbs and greeks.

Serbs shold respect the will of the Dardanians to have their own independent republic for a lasting of peace and reconciliation of both peoples.

BH_NYC

pre 14 godina

'My previous statement was a direct response to a most frivolous complaint that B-92 covered one story and not one regarding Iranians.
(Jason, 10 March 2010 21:25) '

Wrong. B92 did cover the story, but no one commented on it. That was the question you replied to.

vito

pre 14 godina

Dont get exited abaut the handshake its the game after all and its not going to happen.And Kosovo status ait gona change either. peace

Mirub Jager

pre 14 godina

Thaci will loose the next elections held in Kosovo. Tadic will win again based on his two-faced game in Serbian politics that he plays. Thus, Tadic should not waste time with Thaci.

However, Tadic shouldn't go to Slovenia either no matter the name on rep-plate. One has to realize that once one sits on the same row of chairs with another it implies a balanced status among them. So the two-faced game that I mentioned above is nothing but a statement of unreasonable requests with desire to participate, this way tricking Serbians into a farce patriotic stand. Hence collecting the votes from pro-integration voters on one hand and pro-isolation on the other.

BBM

pre 14 godina

I see a lot of people complaining about Thaci. He is just an example of what every politician is, "he just don't know how to hide it" (Tony Montana). Maybe Albanians should send Rasim Thaci aka Cima instead, Serbs would like it. At the end of the day it doesn't matter who it is that Tadic is negotiating with, the important thing is that he or she will be Kosovo's PM and he or she will voice Kosovo's opinion. Serbia and Kosovo need to catch up with the rest of the world but before they do that they need to squash this tension. Negotiations between them are inevitable so the sooner they happen the sooner we can all move on.
Cheers!

Daniel

pre 14 godina

When they shake hands, Tadic should place handcuffs on Thaci's wrists. Then, he'll need some hand sanitizer to kill the germs. You know from the organ harvesting and sex slavery business.

dean SRB

pre 14 godina

After he serves the sentence in Serbia for leading one terrorist organization in direct links will Al-Qaeda and called UCK everything is possible.

After all, in every legal state like Serbia, after serving community prison sentence he is a free men and as such legible to shake hands even with President.

So Thaci, don't jump over the required steps.

nikshala

pre 14 godina

I don't particularly like Thaci myself as a politician, but I want to ask the commentators below - how can you ever expect Kosovan albanians to ever even theoretically consider the idea of being in Serbia when we all know that the views expressed below are widespread among serbs?

How can Serbia ask for negotations when they are unwilling to engage respectfully the leaders of Kosovan albanians who were democratically elected?

With comments like you only confirm what the whole worlds know anyway. Listen to what Milo says about Serbia - you might learn something.

ben

pre 14 godina

Thaci is giving way too much credit to Tadic.

Noble freedom fighters as Thaci should not shake hands with a nationalist coward who never did a thing in his life.

As a matter a fact it is Tadic that is hiding not Thaci... but Serbs are too much self-in loved to see...

Jason

pre 14 godina

Listen to what Milo says about Serbia - you might learn something.
(nikshala, 10 March 2010, 14:46)

Why would Serbs or anyone else want to listen to a criminal? I think it funny that the Albanian camp will overlook any criminal's actions - and I do mean ANY - if he/she tells the Albanians what they want to hear.

It is always a double-standard with you guys. You claim Milosevic should have been in the Hague for targeting civilians in Kosovo yet deny the same for Bush, Clinton and Blair despite the fact that they are guilty of doing far, far worse things to civilians... but I guess Albanian lives are worth more than Afghan or Iraqi lives.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 14 godina

Thaci should instead give his head a shake.

If i were Tadic and i had to shake Thaci's hand, i would wear a glove or two.

nikshala

pre 14 godina

"I guess Albanian lives are worth more than Afghan or Iraqi lives.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
(Jason, 10 March 2010 15:33) "

I have read my post again and again and but I cannot see any mention of Iraqi..Afghan and whatever else you were writing?! enlighten me......

So what is your opinion of Milosevic?

Ment

pre 14 godina

@Hank The Tank
==============

If you're trying to convince the pro-Serbian posters with that link, you probably just wasted your time...they're already convinced of their victimhood.

If you were trying to enlighten the Albanian camp, then you should really find better sources for your arguments than Julia Gorin.

When it comes to credibility, she's a joke as far as Albos are concerned.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

I don't particularly like Thaci myself as a politician, but I want to ask the commentators below - how can you ever expect Kosovan albanians to ever even theoretically consider the idea of being in Serbia when we all know that the views expressed below are widespread among serbs?

How can Serbia ask for negotations when they are unwilling to engage respectfully the leaders of Kosovan albanians who were democratically elected?

With comments like you only confirm what the whole worlds know anyway. Listen to what Milo says about Serbia - you might learn something.
(nikshala, 10 March 2010 14:46)

simple, Thaci has shown no remorse for his past crimes against Serbs, Albanians and other loyal Yugoslav citizens whom his fascist drug running band inflicted death and misery.

Tadic is genuine in wanting to extend the hand of friendship to Serbia's ethnic Albanians but not to the Snake, remember that. His quarrell is not with the ordinary Gjon, Gjergi, Agim, Mexhid, Enis, Teuta, Gonxha in the street who are struggle to make ends meet but with your KLA mafiosi leadership.

First of all Nikshala, get rid of the likes of Thaci and Haradinaj and elect genuine and upstanding politicians not drug running warlords.

Secondly, he would most definitley have shaken hands with a decent and honourable man like Rugova and would most likely extend or accept an act of friendship from Surroi. Hell, he would even shake hands with Kurti :)

Just get rid of Thaci please.

Hank the Tank

pre 14 godina

If Thaci really wanted to improve relations with Serbia he would have to engage in new negotiations regarding Kosovos status.

"A clearer picture emerges of the "failed" negotiations between Belgrade and Pristina, to which the Serbian delegation would come with lists of various broad compromises, and the Albanian delegation would look at their watches. Sabotaging the "negotiations" before each round"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/04/the-blackmail-of-america/

roberto

pre 14 godina

>I don't particularly like Thaci myself as a politician, but I want to ask the commentators below - how can you ever expect Kosovan albanians to ever even theoretically consider the idea of being in Serbia when we all know that the views expressed below are widespread among serbs?

How can Serbia ask for negotations when they are unwilling to engage respectfully the leaders of Kosovan albanians who were democratically elected?... (Nikshala)>

nobody can or even bothers to respond to that, nikshala, since they all know you're spot-on -- and none of them care. therefore we engage in these unceasing "dialogues" which are basically a series of running attacks and accusations with little point of intersection, followed by their demands to "return to status negotiations now -- or else!" so pathetic and bizarre.

thank you, again, nikshala, for pointing out the obvious.

roberto/ frisco

skiff

pre 14 godina

Of course Tadic is against Kosovo as an independent state. He's the President of Serbia and you can understand he's slightly p***ed off seeing 18% of his country which also contains an important part of his heritage, illegally sliced off. Just put yourself in his shoes. How would you feel?
______________________

Has any serb leader ever try to put his shoes in the position of Albanians/Dardanians?

Divided form the beggining of History, conquered by Romans, slavs, turks,..., time comes around 1800ds when we demanded unification for our culture to survive, found more then half of the population left out in the newly created small Albania, Now that is might makes right, whith no voice no allies and a weak state, so it didnt matter if the big powers caused Albania territorial injustice they are famous for that for causing injustices around the world. Serbs have historically been more fortunate, always having the backing of Russia and a voice in the Balkans.

US support has also been historical for us, Woodrow Wilson US president's words saved Modern Albania form further being completly partritioned amog its neighbours (serbs and greeks.

Serbs shold respect the will of the Dardanians to have their own independent republic for a lasting of peace and reconciliation of both peoples.

BH_NYC

pre 14 godina

RE: ... but I guess Albanian lives are worth more than Afghan or Iraqi lives.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
(Jason, 10 March 2010 15:33) '

And this is what you said a couple of days ago when asked why no one gave a toss about Iranian lives:

'- Ummmm, because this is a SERBIAN news site and this latest incident involves citizens of SERBIA, not Iran.

(Jason, 2 March 2010 07:33) '

Jovan

pre 14 godina

I am convinced that Touchy would be glad to shake hands with Tadic, but ...why should an elected president shake hands with a simple criminal???

michael

pre 14 godina

After reading Thaci's statements regarding Serbians in Kosovo, I felt warm all over, I started to sweat, and then I ran to the porcelain god just in time. It was close, but I made it...

The reality is: http://vimeo.com/8606283

The realities in Kosovo for Serbs is a disasterous nightmare, and albanians have done everything in their limited power to destroy anything Serbian with the help of British and American forces.

Sad to say but let's be frank. If another terrorist attacks American soil, should the world feel sympathy after what we do on a daily basis? How about in the tubes of London for that matter? What the hell has happened to the USA I grew up believing in as a nation of justice and fair play? What happened to the country that fought oppression and Nazi Germany and defeated communism?

I can only hope and pray that this nation returns to it's roots which our founding fathers created and fought for.

Mirub Jager

pre 14 godina

Secondly, he would most definitley have shaken hands with a decent and honourable man like Rugova and would most likely extend or accept an act of friendship from Surroi. Hell, he would even shake hands with Kurti :)

Just get rid of Thaci please.
(Niall O'Doherty, 10 March 2010 15:41)


You are so wrong. From all the people that you wrote about Rugova would not extend his hand to any Serb politician.

1. His uncle and grandfether were killed by Serb Gandarmarie.
2. Year 2004. On the way to a conference with US then ambassador in Kosovo Mrs Kaidanov, the leaders of Kosovo were joined by Ms Traikovic and Mr Ivanovic. Rugova was the only one not to shake hands nor converse with Kosovo-Serb leaders eventhough he was advised to do so. I'm a living witness of this.
3. He saw too much suffering to sit with Tadic or any other. Rugova-Milosevic handshaking was done while under duress and as his family was kidnapped and held hostage.

jesse

pre 14 godina

Serbia is using the Serbs in northern Kosovo as the tools to keep the tensions and instability in this new country.Millions are pured in from Belgrade and Moscow every year to keep their alliance to Belgrade instead of Pristina.The money is paid mostly to a small group of Serbian hooligans who keep their residencies in Serbia proper but operate in Northern Kosovo.International organization are aware of them and so is Kosovo officials.In time they will be removed from Kosovo.This is not the first time Serbia has used its compatriots to hold another country hostage.They tried the same thing in Krajina with terrible consequences for hundred of thousands of ethnic Serbs.North of Ibar river there is less than 40 thousands Serbs mixed with tens of thousands of Albanians.The total population of Kosovo will be well over 3 million.There is no question that the criminals in North can not roam free forever. Lawless North has to be incorporated and managed.The patience that Mr Thaci and other Kosovo leaders have demonstrated before is commendable.K Serbs should take advantage of this sooner than later.The double salaries from Serbia someday will vanish leaving them high and dry.

The Swiss

pre 14 godina

compromises, and the Albanian delegation would look at their watches. Sabotaging the "negotiations" before each round"
[link]/
(Hank the Tank, 10 March 2010 16:46)

Nothing that we didn't already heard but schocking to read it all in a summary!

As to Thaci, well, shaking hands with such a criminal requires either not much respect for itself or looking for trouble.

Interesting that such kind of ..... person is trying to lecture us about fight on corruption, drug dealers and all kind of traffick etc...., where is the bucket pls!

The snake only ternish further the kosovo image, get rid of him and you are right Nial, too bad that Rugova is no longer alive things would be certainly different!

Mirub Jager

pre 14 godina

Thaci will loose the next elections held in Kosovo. Tadic will win again based on his two-faced game in Serbian politics that he plays. Thus, Tadic should not waste time with Thaci.

However, Tadic shouldn't go to Slovenia either no matter the name on rep-plate. One has to realize that once one sits on the same row of chairs with another it implies a balanced status among them. So the two-faced game that I mentioned above is nothing but a statement of unreasonable requests with desire to participate, this way tricking Serbians into a farce patriotic stand. Hence collecting the votes from pro-integration voters on one hand and pro-isolation on the other.

kalimero

pre 14 godina

"Tadic is genuine in wanting to extend the hand of friendship to Serbia's ethnic Albanians but not to the Snake, remember that. His quarrell is not with the ordinary Gjon, Gjergi, Agim, Mexhid, Enis, Teuta, Gonxha in the street who are struggle to make ends meet but with your KLA mafiosi leadership.

First of all Nikshala, get rid of the likes of Thaci and Haradinaj and elect genuine and upstanding politicians not drug running warlords.

Secondly, he would most definitley have shaken hands with a decent and honourable man like Rugova and would most likely extend or accept an act of friendship from Surroi. Hell, he would even shake hands with Kurti :)

Just get rid of Thaci please.
(Niall O'Doherty, 10 March 2010 15:41) "

Well, no. Tadic is against Kosovo's existence as an independent state, so he'll refuse to speak to ANY Kosovar leader, regardless of his reputation.
I agree with you that Surroi is a far better choice than Thaci in every way, but it would not help relations with Serbia one bit.

Jason

pre 14 godina

And this is what you said a couple of days ago when asked why no one gave a toss about Iranian lives:

'- Ummmm, because this is a SERBIAN news site and this latest incident involves citizens of SERBIA, not Iran.

(Jason, 2 March 2010 07:33) '
(BH_NYC, 10 March 2010, 17:33)

And your point is...?

My previous statement was a direct response to a most frivolous complaint that B-92 covered one story and not one regarding Iranians. I implied that because B-92 was a Serbian news site, the content is directed towards Serbs... an Iranian news site will direct content towards Iranians. Simple concept, no?

Nikshala,

You did not mention Afghans or Iraqis but that is irrelevant. I am pointing out the double-standard many of you have towards human rights violatiors, criminals, and whomever else. If a person is pro-Albanian then no matter how bad he or she is, you overlook it and it is a non-issue. This is a simple concept, please don't act like you don't see where I am coming from.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

If you were trying to enlighten the Albanian camp, then you should really find better sources for your arguments than Julia Gorin.

When it comes to credibility, she's a joke as far as Albos are concerned.
(Ment, 10 March 2010 17:42)

==================

Yes we know. Anyone who disagrees with you and tries to tell the truth is automatically pronounced not good.
Too bad, more people are joining the ranks of Julia.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

Well, no. Tadic is against Kosovo's existence as an independent state, so he'll refuse to speak to ANY Kosovar leader, regardless of his reputation.
I agree with you that Surroi is a far better choice than Thaci in every way, but it would not help relations with Serbia one bit.
(kalimero, 10 March 2010 21:20)

Of course Tadic is against Kosovo as an independent state. He's the President of Serbia and you can understand he's slightly p***ed off seeing 18% of his country which also contains an important part of his heritage, illegally sliced off. Just put yourself in his shoes. How would you feel?

Now I have never met Tadic but he comes accross as a decent guy yet many Albanians here absolutley hate his guts including our spiteful, hateful and bitter friend, roberto.

Tadic is genuine when he reaches out to his Albanian countrymen so I think you should accept his gracious offer. Its up to you but sitting down and talking to Tadic would be a start. Surroi has indirectly hinted that he would. Rugova is sorely missed.

BH_NYC

pre 14 godina

'My previous statement was a direct response to a most frivolous complaint that B-92 covered one story and not one regarding Iranians.
(Jason, 10 March 2010 21:25) '

Wrong. B92 did cover the story, but no one commented on it. That was the question you replied to.

kalimero

pre 14 godina

Tadic is genuine when he reaches out to his Albanian countrymen so I think you should accept his gracious offer. Its up to you but sitting down and talking to Tadic would be a start. Surroi has indirectly hinted that he would. Rugova is sorely missed.
(Niall O'Doherty, 11 March 2010 12:02)
Niall, you won't find a single Kosovar Albanian, let alone a politician or leader, who would be willing to give up independence from Serbia. Why would they? Tadic may be a great guy for all that matters, but he represents a state that is demonstrably hostile to them and now just likes to pretend they don't exist. Serbia still wants to dominate Kosovo, but the reality is that it has no clout to do that. So Tadic's gracious hand is that of a master stretched to a servant. I don't think I need to stress that there is no Kosovar Albanian who'd be willing to kneel down and kiss it.

Danny

pre 14 godina

French minister's remark in Kosovo criticized
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hngzfxtrSIOVGJFSatOpVPZE-b0gD9EBQ9OG2

Asked about the organization's criticism, French Foreign Ministry officials in Paris declined to comment immediately.


French Foreign Minister Kouchner Refers to Voice of America Reporter in Kosovo as 'Sick' and 'Insane'
http://www.seemo.org/activities/pressfreedom/10/press1019.html

Vienna, 10 March 2010

The South East Europe Media Organisation (SEEMO), an affiliate of the International Press Institute (IPI), strongly condemns the manner in which French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner behaved towards Budimir Nicic, a Voice of America reporter, in the Kosovo town of Gracanica.

On 2 March 2010, Kouchner, who was UN administrator in Kosovo from 1999 until 2001, visited Gracanica, where Nicic posed a question about Kouchner's view regarding human organ trafficking allegations. Kouchner was asked to comment on the claims by the families of Serbs kidnapped and murdered in Kosovo.

As a reaction, Kouchner, according to media reports, laughed out loud and said to the journalist, in French (SEEMO/IPI translation into English) : But you are sick, aren't you? Do I look like someone who would traffic organs? You are insane, to believe all kinds of nonsense like that…. Sir, you should consult (a doctor). There was no yellow house, there was no organ trade. People who talk about things like that are bastards and murderers. Kouchner's answer is posted in the form of video material on different websites, including Youtube.

The claims about organ trafficking are also mentioned in a book published by former Hague Tribunal Chief Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte. There were also different reports about this case in media. The case was also investigated by the Serbian War Crimes Prosecution, and was addressed in several international reports. According to these sources, hundreds of Serb civilians were kidnapped in Kosovo in 1999 and then their vital organs were removed and sold on the black market. One of the locations mentioned as the possible place where the kidnapped civilians were operated on was a house with a yellow front wall (yellow house).

SEEMO is surprised at this manner of communication by an official representative of the French government. The behaviour by the French Foreign Minister was not professional and it is not a way in which a state official should be communicating with a journalist, said SEEMO Secretary General Oliver Vujovic.

Vujovic added: Of course, the journalist might have formulated his question differently, but in asking the question he made clear the source of the information - in this case the families of kidnapped and murdered Serbs. It is unacceptable that a state official react in this aggressive manner. As a politician, and a member of the French government, he should communicate professionally and responsibly with journalists. We would have expected Mr. Kouchner to react in a more courteous and dignified way.

Jason

pre 14 godina

My previous statement was a direct response to a most frivolous complaint that B-92 covered one story and not one regarding Iranians.
(Jason, 10 March 2010 21:25) '

Wrong. B92 did cover the story, but no one commented on it. That was the question you replied to.
(BH_NYC, 11 March 2010 12:08)

I guess you are confused so I will help you to understand what I was saying...

My point was in response to a remark about people not discussing the situation in Iran. No one disputes the lack of value of Iranian lives but because this news site is a Serbian one, most posts and commentary relate to Serbia and the Kosovo issue. This is very simple so please try and stay with me...

Regarding Iraq and Afghanistan I am saying it is funny that no Albanians question US human rights violations in Iraq and Afghanistan despite being so supposedly concerned with human rights. The US, Afghanistan, and Iraq is indeed relevant because Kosovo/Albania is a client-state of the USA. Kosovo Albanians claim that human rights violations entitle them to their own state. This is all completely relevant.

Still with me?

Iran has nothing to do with the Serbian v. Albanian issue in Kosovo. Understand now?

BBM

pre 14 godina

I see a lot of people complaining about Thaci. He is just an example of what every politician is, "he just don't know how to hide it" (Tony Montana). Maybe Albanians should send Rasim Thaci aka Cima instead, Serbs would like it. At the end of the day it doesn't matter who it is that Tadic is negotiating with, the important thing is that he or she will be Kosovo's PM and he or she will voice Kosovo's opinion. Serbia and Kosovo need to catch up with the rest of the world but before they do that they need to squash this tension. Negotiations between them are inevitable so the sooner they happen the sooner we can all move on.
Cheers!

Milan

pre 14 godina

Serbs shold respect the will of the Dardanians to have their own independent republic for a lasting of peace and reconciliation of both peoples.
(skiff, 11 March 2010 20:53)

What "Dardanians"???? Tribe who don't existed from 2000 years???? Or maybE You think about Albanians?? But Albanians have their own independent state - Republic of Albania.

trudsaam

pre 14 godina

Since when is Thaci ready to shake hands with Tadic? What agreement have they reached to hit a point of shaking hands? I think Thaci has been smoking a bit too much of his own product ;)

Peggy

pre 14 godina

How can Serbia ask for negotations when they are unwilling to engage respectfully the leaders of Kosovan albanians who were democratically elected?... (Nikshala)>
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Your "elected leaders" are illegitimate as representatives of a country because "Kosova" is illegitimate for a start.

Serbia is more than happy to speak to these leaders but only if they represent Albanians of Kosovo in any capacity other than the one they do now in.
Serbia is ready to engage in negotiations but not as equal republics.

vito

pre 14 godina

Dont get exited abaut the handshake its the game after all and its not going to happen.And Kosovo status ait gona change either. peace