KFOR suspends training of KSF

Keep on dreaming, NATO has not the money they had in the 90s? Your time is over in Kosovo, next stop is A-stan, have fun there, Kosovo was paradise for KFOR and alike. Next year less then 4000 troops will be stationed and in the coming 3-4 years 0 KFOR troops, sayonara!
(Pejoni, 7 March 2010 16:33)

... and another thing - you are quite ungrateful to your saviors. If not for NATO, Serbian forces would have wiped all the Albanian terrorists off the map. The only reason you have your "Kosova" is because of NATO. You should kiss the ground those troops walk on, rather than talk trash.

Collectively, you earned nothing. Never forget that.

Also Demi, they are going to act as an occupying force because that is exactly what they are. You Albanians must the the only ones who don't see it.
(Peggy)

Of course they're the only ones who don't see it. They ignore all the evidence willingly. Submitting themselves to the machine, WILLINGLY. Nations and peoples have been forced into the machine, only the Albanians have been begging for it.... Good Day :)

This move by Kosovo authority is the first sign of independence.
(rational angle)

What kind of comment is this ....hahaha, have you even read this article? Very rational thinking on your part. :)

"Priština-based RTK television outlet quoted a KFOR spokesman as saying that "the Kosovo institutions have not honored a deal that members of the KFS guard should not carry weapons during the manifestation".

For this reason, KFOR's command decided to immediately suspend its support and training of KSF, with the developments depending on possible future talks. However, according to its representatives, KFOR has "lost trust" in the organization that was put together after the disbanding of the Kosovo Protection Corps."

And this, my dears, is what "supervised independence" really means .... you are not free to do anything that displeases your Western masters .... they have spoken and their word (not yours) is law ..... ie. you jolly well toe the line, or else ....

Good, now leave Kosovo!
(Pejoni, 7 March 2010 12:55)

You wish, we will be staying forever!

Kfor is here to secure the lives of people and not to put demand to the Kosovo goverment. It would be dissaster for Kfor if they decide to have bad relations with KSF because KSF will not disapear.
(Demi, 7 March 2010 15:27)
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Disaster? Really? What are you going to do about it?
Remember, the only reason you have "Kosova" at the moment is because NATO got it for you. How are you going to get it back from NATO?

Also Demi, they are going to act as an occupying force because that is exactly what they are. You Albanians must the the only ones who don't see it.

Well if KFOR is supposed to keep the peace in UNMIK-Kosovo, and if KSF is disturbing said peace by carrying illegal weapons, I'd say it's time for a good old fashioned KFOR-led initiative to round up all illegal weapons carried by these guys. After all, we can't allow paramilitary forces roaming around the protectorate threatening the fragile multiethnic harmony now can we?

Keep on dreaming, NATO has not the money they had in the 90s? Your time is over in Kosovo, next stop is A-stan, have fun there, Kosovo was paradise for KFOR and alike. Next year less then 4000 troops will be stationed and in the coming 3-4 years 0 KFOR troops, sayonara!
(Pejoni, 7 March 2010 16:33)

Not so fast, buddy... the US has Bondsteel and I say that you will be occupied for the next century or so... That was the whole reason my country supported you in the first place.

Oh, and I am counting the days until April when your phantom KSF base opens in the north! :)

Kfor are loosing trust in the Albanians? Slow learners aren't they!!! Kfor will be begging the Serbs to move in before long - how ironic!

Fine with Serbia if KFOR leaves, Pejoni. The Serbian National Army will then come back into KiM to protect it's citizens and religious monuments. Seems like after all the bombs, lost lives, countless billions, and empty words from all sides, the situation in KiM will go back to square one. Maybe this time the Albanians residing in Serbia's southern province will act differently, without the US propping them up.

This is what happens when you give matches to children.
Another reminder to the pristina muppet show that 1244 is the chief in command, the rest is only hot air blowing!

No need to worry. This is an agreement between the KSF and KFOR. Trust me, they agreed beforehand on this issue just to make Serbs believe that this was not permitted by KFOR.
(KSF, 7 March 2010 13:20)

This is 100% correct. I know that the rest is just Milosheviqi propaganda. He appeared today in my dream hence I know it first-hand. He is actually fine, normally he sits inside of a crater on the side of Moon we can't see and Elvis is next to him.

This move by Kosovo authority is the first sign of independence.
(rational angle, 7 March 2010 17:35)

Geeees, what a sign after more than 2 years....we had nearly missed it..., by the way which independance are you talking about, from Serbia, Kfor, Eulex, Unmik, 1244, Bondsteel, the aliens, your muppet show... did I miss any....

Good, now leave Kosovo!
(Pejoni, 7 March 2010 12:55)

Well, please realise that Kosovo is still a Serbian province. So when the UN and EU leave...

Next year less then 4000 troops will be stationed and in the coming 3-4 years 0 KFOR troops, sayonara!
(Pejoni, 7 March 2010 16:33)

I am afraid that with this kind of trend if KFOR leaves the next phrase to say for you after "sayonara" could be "добар дан".

This is probably not really relevant - in 50-100 years the future of Serbs and Albanians alike can be described in two words: "jasmin rice".

I don't worry, we went through the training already and can use the chopsticks faster than some can say "Mitrovicë".

What?
The K-albanians are not fullfilling their agreements?
KFOR has lost trust in the albanian gansters in Pristina?
Who would have imagined?!

Zebras can't change their stripes. KFS is KLA, they simply changed the last two letters, nothing else. Guns are the way this separatist group does business. I am surprised if KFOR thought otherwise. The US/EU supported this militant group, now they will have to deal with them if they want any chance of peace in Kosovo. I'm glad it's not Serbia's problem, anyway.

Ups!

No need to worry. This is an agreement between the KSF and KFOR. Trust me, they agreed beforehand on this issue just to make Serbs believe that this was not permitted by KFOR. Serbia can only keep dreaming on because Kosovo is gone forever. Get used to it and move ahead toward your mother Slavic nation of Russia. Peace
(KSF, 7 March 2010 13:20)

Let's say we believe.. Shame on you!

Why would KFOR freeze relations with KSF, i thought they were there to extinguish fires, carry water to the thirsty etc...
KSF is a peace loving group made up of ex KLA.
Kosovo Love Army?

Looks like it was not so smart to recruit staff for the KPS from former KLA 'freedom fighters'.

I said this January that delegitimizing the KPS was the last stage for Serbia. The Ganic arrests prove that Serbia has got back credibility with The West, whose policy is just starting to show these signs of change.

KFOR and UNMIK should act on this!

Well KFOR be sure that they will not be starting shutting at you before you leave Kosovo and what will happen with pour few left non-expelled Serbs after you leave is irrelevant, isn't it?

I don't worry, we went through the training already and can use the chopsticks faster than some can say "Mitrovicë".
(Ataman, 7 March 2010 18:19)

OK, everything being already said about politics - let's move on in a better direction. Here is a one million Dollar question to Albanians (somewhat related to chopsticks):

does have "Arnavut Ciğeri" anything to do with Albanians at all - or it's just a phantasy of some Turkish cooks, much like their "Rus Salata"?

Good, now leave Kosovo!

Why would KFOR freeze relations with KSF, i thought they were there to extinguish fires, carry water to the thirsty etc...
KSF is a peace loving group made up of ex KLA.
Kosovo Love Army?
(AdamSRB, 7 March 2010 11:23)


You can crack jokes all you want, but in the end Kosovars will have the last laugh.

No one can understimate the Kosovo/a history as an independent country. Some people or polititians might like it or dislike it. The event was symbolic but NONE CAN STOP the UNSTOPPABLE the consolidation of Kosovo/a's state.

great news from my country.
this 2 year old baby showing teeth and sovereignty signs.
(kosovar, 7 March 2010 22:13)

You showing THEM teeth? I don't know about "sovereignty signs", but certainly unreliability signs to the West.

Savior? Why don't you go save people in Rwanda, Somalia, Turkey, Afghanistan, Iraq and other parts of the world where thousands of people die everyday. Nato, US in specific has benefited from the invasion a lot more than people of Kosovo. Name one country in the European continent that would let you build a base/city in the middle of their country? I'm sure that majority of population in Kosovo are conscious of benefit received from NATO occupation, but please stop with this savior b.s. Savior don't do good deeds to benefit from them. That's called mutual interest.
Nevertheless thank you USA!
(BBM, 8 March 2010, 11:54)

Thank you for your honesty... your point is what I have been saying all along. So many Albanians and their supporters think the US acted out of altruism rather than self-interest. I am glad to see someone else realizes this.

As far as being saved goes, KLA was being eliminated so in fact NATO did save Kosovo Albanians - they did NOT earn a victory on their own. I am sure, however, in a few years the Kosovo Albanian textbooks will have mythical stories about how all alone, the KLA called upon its Illyrian warrior spirit to single-handedly beat the entire Yugolsavian army... :)

Good, now leave Kosovo!
(Pejoni, 7 March 2010 12:55)

You wish, we will be staying forever!
(Johan, 7 March 2010 15:50)

Keep on dreaming, NATO has not the money they had in the 90s? Your time is over in Kosovo, next stop is A-stan, have fun there, Kosovo was paradise for KFOR and alike. Next year less then 4000 troops will be stationed and in the coming 3-4 years 0 KFOR troops, sayonara!

No need to worry. This is an agreement between the KSF and KFOR. Trust me, they agreed beforehand on this issue just to make Serbs believe that this was not permitted by KFOR. Serbia can only keep dreaming on because Kosovo is gone forever. Get used to it and move ahead toward your mother Slavic nation of Russia. Peace

This move by Kosovo authority is the first sign of independence.

Kfor should realize that Kosovo is an independent country since the 17th February 2008.
And if Kosovo-Army decides to carry weapons in public then nobody has the right to interfere.

Good, now leave Kosovo!
(Pejoni, 7 March 2010 12:55)

you're albanian and your demanding that the 'KSF' leave Kosovo? Kudos to you.

Look guys he's joined the Serbian side =D

Kosovo Je Srbija

"of today things gonna get better for Kosovar Serbs in North." (Mirub Jager)

-- Ah, for once we agree on something. Yes, things just got a lot better for the K Serbs north of the Ibar. Now that KFOR has suspended training KSF, we needn't worry that much the Albanians will be capable of "integrating" the north as per the Little Fuhrer's plans. And since KFOR has officially stated they're not Hash's rent-an-army, I guess status quo up there is better than nothing, right? Now let's hope this takes pressure off the enclaves in the south as well, and we just might be getting somewhere.

great news from my country.
this 2 year old baby showing teeth and sovereignty signs.

I'm hearing a lot of negativeness from the Serb Camp.
It's childish for KFOR to put prerequisite on Kosovo Security Forces whether or not to use light arms during a ceremonial showing.

“KSF is trained under NATO's command, and its mandate is to deal with elementary disasters. The formation is expected to be operational in several years' time.”

And hasn’t NATO stepped up to the plate – dying in Afghanistan and its allies are fleeing the alliance at first chance. My God hasn’t KSF got a good model to work on.
If the Albanians think KSF is an army, then think hard and think again. The US is not stupid to arm Moslems that can very easily turn their weapons on them.
I like the bit about “operational in several years’ time” – gee how long does it take to train these people; last time it was 3 months on how to handle weapons and six months to be proficient. And you guys think this is the start of something new or a new Albanian world order in Kosovo. No boys, they are just repackaging an old idea – a round and round it goes.

Well KSF will still be there whther anybody likes it or not. Nato should not act like an occupation force with this statment because they know that Kosovo has to have an army to to secure it's territory from Serbia. Kfor should also know that they are on albanian land and Kosovo got an goverment wich decides if it's army can have rifles or not. If Kfor dosent't want to train KSF then it is Ok because we can train them our self with help from Albania, Croatia and USA.


Kfor is here to secure the lives of people and not to put demand to the Kosovo goverment. It would be dissaster for Kfor if they decide to have bad relations with KSF because KSF will not disapear.

So, I suppose they are proposing to move their training centers back to 'status-neutral' Albania?

"KSF is trained under NATO's command, and its mandate is to deal with elementary disasters. The formation is expected to be operational in several years' time."
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Several years time !?!? Are you serious. By then the EU wont exist, and long before that the people of Kosovo will be present with Serbian police. So whats with the delay?, lets get on with this... :)

... and another thing - you are quite ungrateful to your saviors. If not for NATO, Serbian forces would have wiped all the Albanian terrorists off the map. The only reason you have your "Kosova" is because of NATO. You should kiss the ground those troops walk on, rather than talk trash.

Collectively, you earned nothing. Never forget that.
(Jason, 7 March 2010 19:40)

We are grateful, but mostly to US who took the lead, so please refrain from telling us show gratitude Jason-UNMIK, there is no population in the entire world who have showed as much love to US then the Albanian population. KFOR will only lose credibility among the civilian population after decade of trust by to this naive current Commander of KFOR, Bentler.

This is just a slap in the wrist. They have to convince Serbia on "neutrality". Actually, this is a prelude to "zero tolerance" when the integration plan unfolds. As of today things gonna get better for Kosovar Serbs in North.

Ataman,I think you are not good in math,sory.On the side of "Arnavut cigery"or werever you like to name,is Kosova ,Albania(maybe Nato since Alb. is NATO member),USA and Turky on stand by,against as you put it, "Rus salata". I think that was what you wanted to say,no?
(delon, 8 March 2010 02:20)

No. But there is an other conspiracy theory. Yours truly does monitor sometimes the railway related news and on the Turkish Railway, TCDD web site this did appear:

http://www.tcdd.gov.tr/home/detail/?id=255

Just look at the item #14 versus #15. You know, we are real people, with real interest into boring things like travel, "Arnavut Ciğeri", "Rus Salata" and such. And believe or not, I do not have any "enemy picture" because I don't need it. In family we have enough American and Russian passports in the drawer, I am not game for such kindergarten.

The only enemy picture I have are the politicians, regardless what country from.

Can't you guys get of that insanity? My posting had as much political content as the llokum eating contest where Village-Bey is usually the winner. On the other hand I read your posting with a minor shock. That was a lesson for me... it's possible to stuff political content in 100% harmless question.

After that I wonder, how much of your conflict is due simple misunderstanding and how much hatred is kept inside...

OK, to underscore again: there was no politics in that question.

@KOSOVARI

it is very common for babies to show the teeth... they sometimes even grind them as soon as they start teething. That in turn does not guarantee diaper-independence. Some never outgrow the diapers despite the age, poor creatures...

Dear serbs,

Don't try to make us hate NATO but it is not going to happened no matter what. They saved us lives and got our live back.
We are free people at last, and we can clearly SEE THAT!

After that I wonder, how much of your conflict is due simple misunderstanding and how much hatred is kept inside...

OK, to underscore again: there was no politics in that question.
(Ataman, 8 March 2010 10:58)

Yes Ataman, but this is the problem when one is wearing the wrong glasses :)

Dear serbs,

Don't try to make us hate NATO but it is not going to happened no matter what. They saved us lives and got our live back.
We are free people at last, and we can clearly SEE THAT!
(Hekruran)
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You don't see anything. Do you know how many albanian lives were lost the Nato bombardment? And you call "this" independance, well get used it, this is as good as it's gona get. Good day :)

does have "Arnavut Ciğeri" anything to do with Albanians at all - or it's just a phantasy of some Turkish cooks, much like their "Rus Salata"?
(Ataman, 7 March 2010 22:30)
Recommend (+10) Poor comment (-1)

The one who gave the "-1" should answer the follow-up questions:

1) Can I use chicken liver for "Arnavut Ciğeri" or it has to be lamb 100% ?
2) Do I need to use ouzo/raki for cooking or it's optional?

To the others who are Albanians in the "+10" crowd: feel free to answer 1+2, too if you know it.
I am sick of the only one way we prepare the chicken liver.
It's boring and does not taste well. My wife just cooks it in water. :-(

Other kind of liver is not that easy to get (except the pork, but that's a no-no, I guess).
Lamb liver is probably near impossible to get in Hungary.

Thanks.

I'm afraid that Albanian commentators here are right. KFOR is firmly on their side, they work hand in hand. Nothing ever happened in Kosovo that they didn't approve off tacitly.
KFOR, after all, abandoned policy of neutrality by making a decision to take part in implementation of Ahtisaari plan and forming the Kosovo Security Forces.

... and another thing - you are quite ungrateful to your saviors. If not for NATO, Serbian forces would have wiped all the Albanian terrorists off the map. The only reason you have your "Kosova" is because of NATO. You should kiss the ground those troops walk on, rather than talk trash.

Savior? Why don't you go save people in Rwanda, Somalia, Turkey, Afghanistan, Iraq and other parts of the world where thousands of people die everyday. Nato, US in specific has benefited from the invasion a lot more than people of Kosovo. Name one country in the European continent that would let you build a base/city in the middle of their country? I'm sure that majority of population in Kosovo are conscious of benefit received from NATO occupation, but please stop with this savior b.s. Savior don't do good deeds to benefit from them. That's called mutual interest.
Nevertheless thank you USA!

Forgive us for not indulging your culinary curiosities while facing an existential threats from Serbia.
(Zoti, 8 March 2010 16:10)

Absolutely understand. I should not reveal you military secrets, but just a hint: it looks like there won't be joint Hungarian-Russian invasion of Kosovo this week, but only because the time is to short.

However, Croatia is a prime target for this long weekend, in particular every chocolate bar owned by Kraš factory from Hungarian border till Istria.

You should not relax - invasion of KosMet is just merely postponed till the weather is not that cold.

You should not relax - invasion of KosMet is just merely postponed till the weather is not that cold.
(Ataman, 8 March 2010 18:51)

Cracking......:)) let me know when you guys are ready, I'll get our cheese army ready...

Jason,

I have never heard a single K/Albanian claim victory. I'm sure you are referring to people who say "We" won, and by "We" they mean KLA of course and all countries that supported Kosovo. The highlight of the '99 war was the NATO bombings so I don't see how Albanian textbooks can misinterpret the fact that if it weren't for the NATO bombings, a lot more K/Albanians would have died. (So yeah no Illyrian ghosts here, maybe KLA should have thought of that). In return NATO troops have only been welcomed and never face danger from civilians or insurgents like they do in Iraq and Afghanistan. Like I said mutual interest.

Ataman,
Be careful who you try to invade, your kidney may end up in some rich.

does have"Arnavut cigery" anything to do with Albanians at all-or it's just a phantasy of same Turkish cooks much like their 'Rus salata"
(ataman,7 march 2010 22:30)


Ataman,I think you are not good in math,sory.On the side of
"Arnavut cigery"or werever you like to name,is Kosova ,Albania(maybe Nato since Alb.
is NATO member),USA and Turky on stand by,against as you put it, "Rus salata".
I think that was what you wanted to say,no?

I see Serbs are itching for another fight in Kosova. KSF better arm themselves to the teeth for the eventual Serb attack. It's not the first and not the last time we've been fighting each other. It's just after the next fight I have a prediction: there won't be any signs of Serbs ever living in Kosova.

After that I wonder, how much of your conflict is due simple misunderstanding and how much hatred is kept inside...

OK, to underscore again: there was no politics in that question.
(Ataman, 8 March 2010 10:58)

There may have not been any politics but there was at on of "lame" and failed attempt at humour.

Forgive us for not indulging your culinary curiosities while facing an existential threats from Serbia.

1) Can I use chicken liver for "Arnavut Ciğeri" or it has to be lamb 100% ?
2) Do I need to use ouzo/raki for cooking or it's optional?

To the others who are Albanians in the "+10" crowd: feel free to answer 1+2, too if you know it.
I am sick of the only one way we prepare the chicken liver.
It's boring and does not taste well. My wife just cooks it in water. :-(

Other kind of liver is not that easy to get (except the pork, but that's a no-no, I guess).
Lamb liver is probably near impossible to get in Hungary.

Thanks.
(Ataman, 8 March 2010 03:10)

Hi Ataman,

The answer to 1) YES
( You can also use chicken or pork liver, however the taste will change somewhat. Many Albanian Moslems in Albania eat pork, we are not fanatics!)

Answer to 2) NO, must use raki, otherwise taste will not be authentic.

p.s. We Albanians have many delicious and unique dishes. Try getting an Albanian cookbook by Klementina and Ramazan John Hysa titled The Best of Albanian Cooking (Favorite Family Recipes). Try the chicken with walnut sauce and the tave me bamje, both excellent.

BTW, I remember you writing that you like Lokume. If you are ever in Tirana, there is a sweetshop near the train station on the opposite side but to the left (across from the jail). They make the best lokume I have ever tasted. Also,if there, try something similar called Solxhuke, again very tasty.

sigh... sad how desperately serbs cling to anything remotely possible negative.

the situation with break down exactly like this.

KSF: wee parade
KFOR: dude, cant use the flag...politicians will complain.
KSF: oh... my bad
KFOR: cool.

serbia: wait, that should have been grounds to reverse everything that has happened in the past decade and should have become a possible anchor for us to somehow assert our authority where we have none legally or morally!

KSF: lol
KFOR: lol

BTW, I remember you writing that you like Lokume. If you are ever in Tirana, there is a sweetshop near the train station on the opposite side but to the left (across from the jail). They make the best lokume I have ever tasted. Also,if there, try something similar called Solxhuke, again very tasty.
(Michael R., 8 March 2010 21:07)

This is important strategic information. Sweetshops are among our primary military targets and we are aware, most bakeries in Serbia are being run by Albanians. So far not a single did withstand our attacks but somehow the owners looked pretty happy after the campaign.

As probably told one million times here is the one million first: we separate the politics from the private life completely don't worry - we will show up in Tirana by first opportunity and we know well where Butrint, Apollonia Gjirokaster is. :-)

I think here is not a big deal for this at all so if NATO will say whatever they say my Q is are you gonna be able for rest of all time's to FULLY protect Kosovo as regularly as her army to the state of Kosova if so KOSOVO DOESN'T NEAD AT ALL KSF and no neutrality when it comes to Kosovo constitution and all this for a long term meaning by a NATO statement doesn't make any sense at all...and still I respect NATO as a organization

To all you bullet heads who are commenting, folks NATO said no more BS from KSF no more having armed honor guards without permission they will punish you further. IF the leadership from Pristina wants to keep good relations i am sure they will check that mindset at the door. NATO has spoken :)

THANKS, Michael!!!
Finally the answer I need. Wonderful. I mean, not really because of course chicken is much cheaper and easier to get.

@Swiss: that depends on the number of nights I have to sit with all kind of ugly stuff. The invasion is imminent, we not just run out of tea, llokum and other goodies, but as I see, I will need real raki or ouzo. Good luck getting it in Hungary!

I did learn, UNMIK 50 Euro "welcome to Kosovo" is no more: in the spirit of what we all know, KPS is checking do you have a "green card" valid for either SRB or AL. If you do, 50 Euro charge is not enforced. In other words people can use the faster but less scenic way to enter KiM from Nis instead of using Ibarska.

I never paid it to begin with - but who did not enter from North Kosovo did.

I see Serbs are itching for another fight in Kosova. KSF better arm themselves to the teeth for the eventual Serb attack. It's not the first and not the last time we've been fighting each other. It's just after the next fight I have a prediction: there won't be any signs of Serbs ever living in Kosova.
(Zoti, 8 March 2010 16:06)
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Are you counting on NATO air support again?
You know you can't with without it.

I see Serbs are itching for another fight in Kosova. KSF better arm themselves to the teeth for the eventual Serb attack. It's not the first and not the last time we've been fighting each other. It's just after the next fight I have a prediction: there won't be any signs of Serbs ever living in Kosova.
(Zoti, 8 March 2010 16:06)

Finish this course first.

I see Serbs are itching for another fight in Kosova. KSF better arm themselves to the teeth for the eventual Serb attack. It's not the first and not the last time we've been fighting each other. It's just after the next fight I have a prediction: there won't be any signs of Serbs ever living in Kosova.
(Zoti)
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Have you read the headline of this article?

Well KSF will still be there whther anybody likes it or not. Nato should not act like an occupation force with this statment because they know that Kosovo has to have an army to to secure it's territory from Serbia. Kfor should also know that they are on albanian land and Kosovo got an goverment wich decides if it's army can have rifles or not. If Kfor dosent't want to train KSF then it is Ok because we can train them our self with help from Albania, Croatia and USA.


Kfor is here to secure the lives of people and not to put demand to the Kosovo goverment. It would be dissaster for Kfor if they decide to have bad relations with KSF because KSF will not disapear.

I think here is not a big deal for this at all so if NATO will say whatever they say my Q is are you gonna be able for rest of all time's to FULLY protect Kosovo as regularly as her army to the state of Kosova if so KOSOVO DOESN'T NEAD AT ALL KSF and no neutrality when it comes to Kosovo constitution and all this for a long term meaning by a NATO statement doesn't make any sense at all...and still I respect NATO as a organization

great news from my country.
this 2 year old baby showing teeth and sovereignty signs.

No one can understimate the Kosovo/a history as an independent country. Some people or polititians might like it or dislike it. The event was symbolic but NONE CAN STOP the UNSTOPPABLE the consolidation of Kosovo/a's state.

Kfor should realize that Kosovo is an independent country since the 17th February 2008.
And if Kosovo-Army decides to carry weapons in public then nobody has the right to interfere.

This is just a slap in the wrist. They have to convince Serbia on "neutrality". Actually, this is a prelude to "zero tolerance" when the integration plan unfolds. As of today things gonna get better for Kosovar Serbs in North.

This move by Kosovo authority is the first sign of independence.

No need to worry. This is an agreement between the KSF and KFOR. Trust me, they agreed beforehand on this issue just to make Serbs believe that this was not permitted by KFOR. Serbia can only keep dreaming on because Kosovo is gone forever. Get used to it and move ahead toward your mother Slavic nation of Russia. Peace

Good, now leave Kosovo!

I'm hearing a lot of negativeness from the Serb Camp.
It's childish for KFOR to put prerequisite on Kosovo Security Forces whether or not to use light arms during a ceremonial showing.

Why would KFOR freeze relations with KSF, i thought they were there to extinguish fires, carry water to the thirsty etc...
KSF is a peace loving group made up of ex KLA.
Kosovo Love Army?
(AdamSRB, 7 March 2010 11:23)


You can crack jokes all you want, but in the end Kosovars will have the last laugh.

Good, now leave Kosovo!
(Pejoni, 7 March 2010 12:55)

You wish, we will be staying forever!
(Johan, 7 March 2010 15:50)

Keep on dreaming, NATO has not the money they had in the 90s? Your time is over in Kosovo, next stop is A-stan, have fun there, Kosovo was paradise for KFOR and alike. Next year less then 4000 troops will be stationed and in the coming 3-4 years 0 KFOR troops, sayonara!

Why would KFOR freeze relations with KSF, i thought they were there to extinguish fires, carry water to the thirsty etc...
KSF is a peace loving group made up of ex KLA.
Kosovo Love Army?

What?
The K-albanians are not fullfilling their agreements?
KFOR has lost trust in the albanian gansters in Pristina?
Who would have imagined?!

Kfor are loosing trust in the Albanians? Slow learners aren't they!!! Kfor will be begging the Serbs to move in before long - how ironic!

Well if KFOR is supposed to keep the peace in UNMIK-Kosovo, and if KSF is disturbing said peace by carrying illegal weapons, I'd say it's time for a good old fashioned KFOR-led initiative to round up all illegal weapons carried by these guys. After all, we can't allow paramilitary forces roaming around the protectorate threatening the fragile multiethnic harmony now can we?

... and another thing - you are quite ungrateful to your saviors. If not for NATO, Serbian forces would have wiped all the Albanian terrorists off the map. The only reason you have your "Kosova" is because of NATO. You should kiss the ground those troops walk on, rather than talk trash.

Collectively, you earned nothing. Never forget that.
(Jason, 7 March 2010 19:40)

We are grateful, but mostly to US who took the lead, so please refrain from telling us show gratitude Jason-UNMIK, there is no population in the entire world who have showed as much love to US then the Albanian population. KFOR will only lose credibility among the civilian population after decade of trust by to this naive current Commander of KFOR, Bentler.

... and another thing - you are quite ungrateful to your saviors. If not for NATO, Serbian forces would have wiped all the Albanian terrorists off the map. The only reason you have your "Kosova" is because of NATO. You should kiss the ground those troops walk on, rather than talk trash.

Savior? Why don't you go save people in Rwanda, Somalia, Turkey, Afghanistan, Iraq and other parts of the world where thousands of people die everyday. Nato, US in specific has benefited from the invasion a lot more than people of Kosovo. Name one country in the European continent that would let you build a base/city in the middle of their country? I'm sure that majority of population in Kosovo are conscious of benefit received from NATO occupation, but please stop with this savior b.s. Savior don't do good deeds to benefit from them. That's called mutual interest.
Nevertheless thank you USA!

KFOR and UNMIK should act on this!

Dear serbs,

Don't try to make us hate NATO but it is not going to happened no matter what. They saved us lives and got our live back.
We are free people at last, and we can clearly SEE THAT!

Looks like it was not so smart to recruit staff for the KPS from former KLA 'freedom fighters'.

Keep on dreaming, NATO has not the money they had in the 90s? Your time is over in Kosovo, next stop is A-stan, have fun there, Kosovo was paradise for KFOR and alike. Next year less then 4000 troops will be stationed and in the coming 3-4 years 0 KFOR troops, sayonara!
(Pejoni, 7 March 2010 16:33)

Not so fast, buddy... the US has Bondsteel and I say that you will be occupied for the next century or so... That was the whole reason my country supported you in the first place.

Oh, and I am counting the days until April when your phantom KSF base opens in the north! :)

Good, now leave Kosovo!
(Pejoni, 7 March 2010 12:55)

Well, please realise that Kosovo is still a Serbian province. So when the UN and EU leave...

Keep on dreaming, NATO has not the money they had in the 90s? Your time is over in Kosovo, next stop is A-stan, have fun there, Kosovo was paradise for KFOR and alike. Next year less then 4000 troops will be stationed and in the coming 3-4 years 0 KFOR troops, sayonara!
(Pejoni, 7 March 2010 16:33)

... and another thing - you are quite ungrateful to your saviors. If not for NATO, Serbian forces would have wiped all the Albanian terrorists off the map. The only reason you have your "Kosova" is because of NATO. You should kiss the ground those troops walk on, rather than talk trash.

Collectively, you earned nothing. Never forget that.

"Priština-based RTK television outlet quoted a KFOR spokesman as saying that "the Kosovo institutions have not honored a deal that members of the KFS guard should not carry weapons during the manifestation".

For this reason, KFOR's command decided to immediately suspend its support and training of KSF, with the developments depending on possible future talks. However, according to its representatives, KFOR has "lost trust" in the organization that was put together after the disbanding of the Kosovo Protection Corps."

And this, my dears, is what "supervised independence" really means .... you are not free to do anything that displeases your Western masters .... they have spoken and their word (not yours) is law ..... ie. you jolly well toe the line, or else ....

I said this January that delegitimizing the KPS was the last stage for Serbia. The Ganic arrests prove that Serbia has got back credibility with The West, whose policy is just starting to show these signs of change.

This move by Kosovo authority is the first sign of independence.
(rational angle, 7 March 2010 17:35)

Geeees, what a sign after more than 2 years....we had nearly missed it..., by the way which independance are you talking about, from Serbia, Kfor, Eulex, Unmik, 1244, Bondsteel, the aliens, your muppet show... did I miss any....

I see Serbs are itching for another fight in Kosova. KSF better arm themselves to the teeth for the eventual Serb attack. It's not the first and not the last time we've been fighting each other. It's just after the next fight I have a prediction: there won't be any signs of Serbs ever living in Kosova.

Well KFOR be sure that they will not be starting shutting at you before you leave Kosovo and what will happen with pour few left non-expelled Serbs after you leave is irrelevant, isn't it?

Good, now leave Kosovo!
(Pejoni, 7 March 2010 12:55)

You wish, we will be staying forever!

Fine with Serbia if KFOR leaves, Pejoni. The Serbian National Army will then come back into KiM to protect it's citizens and religious monuments. Seems like after all the bombs, lost lives, countless billions, and empty words from all sides, the situation in KiM will go back to square one. Maybe this time the Albanians residing in Serbia's southern province will act differently, without the US propping them up.

No need to worry. This is an agreement between the KSF and KFOR. Trust me, they agreed beforehand on this issue just to make Serbs believe that this was not permitted by KFOR. Serbia can only keep dreaming on because Kosovo is gone forever. Get used to it and move ahead toward your mother Slavic nation of Russia. Peace
(KSF, 7 March 2010 13:20)

Let's say we believe.. Shame on you!

Good, now leave Kosovo!
(Pejoni, 7 March 2010 12:55)

you're albanian and your demanding that the 'KSF' leave Kosovo? Kudos to you.

Look guys he's joined the Serbian side =D

Kosovo Je Srbija

This is what happens when you give matches to children.
Another reminder to the pristina muppet show that 1244 is the chief in command, the rest is only hot air blowing!

Next year less then 4000 troops will be stationed and in the coming 3-4 years 0 KFOR troops, sayonara!
(Pejoni, 7 March 2010 16:33)

I am afraid that with this kind of trend if KFOR leaves the next phrase to say for you after "sayonara" could be "добар дан".

This is probably not really relevant - in 50-100 years the future of Serbs and Albanians alike can be described in two words: "jasmin rice".

I don't worry, we went through the training already and can use the chopsticks faster than some can say "Mitrovicë".

After that I wonder, how much of your conflict is due simple misunderstanding and how much hatred is kept inside...

OK, to underscore again: there was no politics in that question.
(Ataman, 8 March 2010 10:58)

There may have not been any politics but there was at on of "lame" and failed attempt at humour.

Forgive us for not indulging your culinary curiosities while facing an existential threats from Serbia.

does have"Arnavut cigery" anything to do with Albanians at all-or it's just a phantasy of same Turkish cooks much like their 'Rus salata"
(ataman,7 march 2010 22:30)


Ataman,I think you are not good in math,sory.On the side of
"Arnavut cigery"or werever you like to name,is Kosova ,Albania(maybe Nato since Alb.
is NATO member),USA and Turky on stand by,against as you put it, "Rus salata".
I think that was what you wanted to say,no?

Savior? Why don't you go save people in Rwanda, Somalia, Turkey, Afghanistan, Iraq and other parts of the world where thousands of people die everyday. Nato, US in specific has benefited from the invasion a lot more than people of Kosovo. Name one country in the European continent that would let you build a base/city in the middle of their country? I'm sure that majority of population in Kosovo are conscious of benefit received from NATO occupation, but please stop with this savior b.s. Savior don't do good deeds to benefit from them. That's called mutual interest.
Nevertheless thank you USA!
(BBM, 8 March 2010, 11:54)

Thank you for your honesty... your point is what I have been saying all along. So many Albanians and their supporters think the US acted out of altruism rather than self-interest. I am glad to see someone else realizes this.

As far as being saved goes, KLA was being eliminated so in fact NATO did save Kosovo Albanians - they did NOT earn a victory on their own. I am sure, however, in a few years the Kosovo Albanian textbooks will have mythical stories about how all alone, the KLA called upon its Illyrian warrior spirit to single-handedly beat the entire Yugolsavian army... :)

Also Demi, they are going to act as an occupying force because that is exactly what they are. You Albanians must the the only ones who don't see it.
(Peggy)

Of course they're the only ones who don't see it. They ignore all the evidence willingly. Submitting themselves to the machine, WILLINGLY. Nations and peoples have been forced into the machine, only the Albanians have been begging for it.... Good Day :)

Ups!

No need to worry. This is an agreement between the KSF and KFOR. Trust me, they agreed beforehand on this issue just to make Serbs believe that this was not permitted by KFOR.
(KSF, 7 March 2010 13:20)

This is 100% correct. I know that the rest is just Milosheviqi propaganda. He appeared today in my dream hence I know it first-hand. He is actually fine, normally he sits inside of a crater on the side of Moon we can't see and Elvis is next to him.

This move by Kosovo authority is the first sign of independence.
(rational angle)

What kind of comment is this ....hahaha, have you even read this article? Very rational thinking on your part. :)

I don't worry, we went through the training already and can use the chopsticks faster than some can say "Mitrovicë".
(Ataman, 7 March 2010 18:19)

OK, everything being already said about politics - let's move on in a better direction. Here is a one million Dollar question to Albanians (somewhat related to chopsticks):

does have "Arnavut Ciğeri" anything to do with Albanians at all - or it's just a phantasy of some Turkish cooks, much like their "Rus Salata"?

Kfor is here to secure the lives of people and not to put demand to the Kosovo goverment. It would be dissaster for Kfor if they decide to have bad relations with KSF because KSF will not disapear.
(Demi, 7 March 2010 15:27)
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Disaster? Really? What are you going to do about it?
Remember, the only reason you have "Kosova" at the moment is because NATO got it for you. How are you going to get it back from NATO?

Also Demi, they are going to act as an occupying force because that is exactly what they are. You Albanians must the the only ones who don't see it.

Dear serbs,

Don't try to make us hate NATO but it is not going to happened no matter what. They saved us lives and got our live back.
We are free people at last, and we can clearly SEE THAT!
(Hekruran)
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You don't see anything. Do you know how many albanian lives were lost the Nato bombardment? And you call "this" independance, well get used it, this is as good as it's gona get. Good day :)

Zebras can't change their stripes. KFS is KLA, they simply changed the last two letters, nothing else. Guns are the way this separatist group does business. I am surprised if KFOR thought otherwise. The US/EU supported this militant group, now they will have to deal with them if they want any chance of peace in Kosovo. I'm glad it's not Serbia's problem, anyway.

"of today things gonna get better for Kosovar Serbs in North." (Mirub Jager)

-- Ah, for once we agree on something. Yes, things just got a lot better for the K Serbs north of the Ibar. Now that KFOR has suspended training KSF, we needn't worry that much the Albanians will be capable of "integrating" the north as per the Little Fuhrer's plans. And since KFOR has officially stated they're not Hash's rent-an-army, I guess status quo up there is better than nothing, right? Now let's hope this takes pressure off the enclaves in the south as well, and we just might be getting somewhere.

@KOSOVARI

it is very common for babies to show the teeth... they sometimes even grind them as soon as they start teething. That in turn does not guarantee diaper-independence. Some never outgrow the diapers despite the age, poor creatures...

"KSF is trained under NATO's command, and its mandate is to deal with elementary disasters. The formation is expected to be operational in several years' time."
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Several years time !?!? Are you serious. By then the EU wont exist, and long before that the people of Kosovo will be present with Serbian police. So whats with the delay?, lets get on with this... :)

“KSF is trained under NATO's command, and its mandate is to deal with elementary disasters. The formation is expected to be operational in several years' time.”

And hasn’t NATO stepped up to the plate – dying in Afghanistan and its allies are fleeing the alliance at first chance. My God hasn’t KSF got a good model to work on.
If the Albanians think KSF is an army, then think hard and think again. The US is not stupid to arm Moslems that can very easily turn their weapons on them.
I like the bit about “operational in several years’ time” – gee how long does it take to train these people; last time it was 3 months on how to handle weapons and six months to be proficient. And you guys think this is the start of something new or a new Albanian world order in Kosovo. No boys, they are just repackaging an old idea – a round and round it goes.

sigh... sad how desperately serbs cling to anything remotely possible negative.

the situation with break down exactly like this.

KSF: wee parade
KFOR: dude, cant use the flag...politicians will complain.
KSF: oh... my bad
KFOR: cool.

serbia: wait, that should have been grounds to reverse everything that has happened in the past decade and should have become a possible anchor for us to somehow assert our authority where we have none legally or morally!

KSF: lol
KFOR: lol

does have "Arnavut Ciğeri" anything to do with Albanians at all - or it's just a phantasy of some Turkish cooks, much like their "Rus Salata"?
(Ataman, 7 March 2010 22:30)
Recommend (+10) Poor comment (-1)

The one who gave the "-1" should answer the follow-up questions:

1) Can I use chicken liver for "Arnavut Ciğeri" or it has to be lamb 100% ?
2) Do I need to use ouzo/raki for cooking or it's optional?

To the others who are Albanians in the "+10" crowd: feel free to answer 1+2, too if you know it.
I am sick of the only one way we prepare the chicken liver.
It's boring and does not taste well. My wife just cooks it in water. :-(

Other kind of liver is not that easy to get (except the pork, but that's a no-no, I guess).
Lamb liver is probably near impossible to get in Hungary.

Thanks.

So, I suppose they are proposing to move their training centers back to 'status-neutral' Albania?

Jason,

I have never heard a single K/Albanian claim victory. I'm sure you are referring to people who say "We" won, and by "We" they mean KLA of course and all countries that supported Kosovo. The highlight of the '99 war was the NATO bombings so I don't see how Albanian textbooks can misinterpret the fact that if it weren't for the NATO bombings, a lot more K/Albanians would have died. (So yeah no Illyrian ghosts here, maybe KLA should have thought of that). In return NATO troops have only been welcomed and never face danger from civilians or insurgents like they do in Iraq and Afghanistan. Like I said mutual interest.

Forgive us for not indulging your culinary curiosities while facing an existential threats from Serbia.
(Zoti, 8 March 2010 16:10)

Absolutely understand. I should not reveal you military secrets, but just a hint: it looks like there won't be joint Hungarian-Russian invasion of Kosovo this week, but only because the time is to short.

However, Croatia is a prime target for this long weekend, in particular every chocolate bar owned by Kraš factory from Hungarian border till Istria.

You should not relax - invasion of KosMet is just merely postponed till the weather is not that cold.

Ataman,I think you are not good in math,sory.On the side of "Arnavut cigery"or werever you like to name,is Kosova ,Albania(maybe Nato since Alb. is NATO member),USA and Turky on stand by,against as you put it, "Rus salata". I think that was what you wanted to say,no?
(delon, 8 March 2010 02:20)

No. But there is an other conspiracy theory. Yours truly does monitor sometimes the railway related news and on the Turkish Railway, TCDD web site this did appear:

http://www.tcdd.gov.tr/home/detail/?id=255

Just look at the item #14 versus #15. You know, we are real people, with real interest into boring things like travel, "Arnavut Ciğeri", "Rus Salata" and such. And believe or not, I do not have any "enemy picture" because I don't need it. In family we have enough American and Russian passports in the drawer, I am not game for such kindergarten.

The only enemy picture I have are the politicians, regardless what country from.

Can't you guys get of that insanity? My posting had as much political content as the llokum eating contest where Village-Bey is usually the winner. On the other hand I read your posting with a minor shock. That was a lesson for me... it's possible to stuff political content in 100% harmless question.

After that I wonder, how much of your conflict is due simple misunderstanding and how much hatred is kept inside...

OK, to underscore again: there was no politics in that question.

great news from my country.
this 2 year old baby showing teeth and sovereignty signs.
(kosovar, 7 March 2010 22:13)

You showing THEM teeth? I don't know about "sovereignty signs", but certainly unreliability signs to the West.

After that I wonder, how much of your conflict is due simple misunderstanding and how much hatred is kept inside...

OK, to underscore again: there was no politics in that question.
(Ataman, 8 March 2010 10:58)

Yes Ataman, but this is the problem when one is wearing the wrong glasses :)

1) Can I use chicken liver for "Arnavut Ciğeri" or it has to be lamb 100% ?
2) Do I need to use ouzo/raki for cooking or it's optional?

To the others who are Albanians in the "+10" crowd: feel free to answer 1+2, too if you know it.
I am sick of the only one way we prepare the chicken liver.
It's boring and does not taste well. My wife just cooks it in water. :-(

Other kind of liver is not that easy to get (except the pork, but that's a no-no, I guess).
Lamb liver is probably near impossible to get in Hungary.

Thanks.
(Ataman, 8 March 2010 03:10)

Hi Ataman,

The answer to 1) YES
( You can also use chicken or pork liver, however the taste will change somewhat. Many Albanian Moslems in Albania eat pork, we are not fanatics!)

Answer to 2) NO, must use raki, otherwise taste will not be authentic.

p.s. We Albanians have many delicious and unique dishes. Try getting an Albanian cookbook by Klementina and Ramazan John Hysa titled The Best of Albanian Cooking (Favorite Family Recipes). Try the chicken with walnut sauce and the tave me bamje, both excellent.

BTW, I remember you writing that you like Lokume. If you are ever in Tirana, there is a sweetshop near the train station on the opposite side but to the left (across from the jail). They make the best lokume I have ever tasted. Also,if there, try something similar called Solxhuke, again very tasty.

You should not relax - invasion of KosMet is just merely postponed till the weather is not that cold.
(Ataman, 8 March 2010 18:51)

Cracking......:)) let me know when you guys are ready, I'll get our cheese army ready...

THANKS, Michael!!!
Finally the answer I need. Wonderful. I mean, not really because of course chicken is much cheaper and easier to get.

@Swiss: that depends on the number of nights I have to sit with all kind of ugly stuff. The invasion is imminent, we not just run out of tea, llokum and other goodies, but as I see, I will need real raki or ouzo. Good luck getting it in Hungary!

I did learn, UNMIK 50 Euro "welcome to Kosovo" is no more: in the spirit of what we all know, KPS is checking do you have a "green card" valid for either SRB or AL. If you do, 50 Euro charge is not enforced. In other words people can use the faster but less scenic way to enter KiM from Nis instead of using Ibarska.

I never paid it to begin with - but who did not enter from North Kosovo did.

BTW, I remember you writing that you like Lokume. If you are ever in Tirana, there is a sweetshop near the train station on the opposite side but to the left (across from the jail). They make the best lokume I have ever tasted. Also,if there, try something similar called Solxhuke, again very tasty.
(Michael R., 8 March 2010 21:07)

This is important strategic information. Sweetshops are among our primary military targets and we are aware, most bakeries in Serbia are being run by Albanians. So far not a single did withstand our attacks but somehow the owners looked pretty happy after the campaign.

As probably told one million times here is the one million first: we separate the politics from the private life completely don't worry - we will show up in Tirana by first opportunity and we know well where Butrint, Apollonia Gjirokaster is. :-)

Ataman,
Be careful who you try to invade, your kidney may end up in some rich.

To all you bullet heads who are commenting, folks NATO said no more BS from KSF no more having armed honor guards without permission they will punish you further. IF the leadership from Pristina wants to keep good relations i am sure they will check that mindset at the door. NATO has spoken :)

I'm afraid that Albanian commentators here are right. KFOR is firmly on their side, they work hand in hand. Nothing ever happened in Kosovo that they didn't approve off tacitly.
KFOR, after all, abandoned policy of neutrality by making a decision to take part in implementation of Ahtisaari plan and forming the Kosovo Security Forces.

I see Serbs are itching for another fight in Kosova. KSF better arm themselves to the teeth for the eventual Serb attack. It's not the first and not the last time we've been fighting each other. It's just after the next fight I have a prediction: there won't be any signs of Serbs ever living in Kosova.
(Zoti, 8 March 2010 16:06)
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Are you counting on NATO air support again?
You know you can't with without it.

I see Serbs are itching for another fight in Kosova. KSF better arm themselves to the teeth for the eventual Serb attack. It's not the first and not the last time we've been fighting each other. It's just after the next fight I have a prediction: there won't be any signs of Serbs ever living in Kosova.
(Zoti, 8 March 2010 16:06)

Finish this course first.

I see Serbs are itching for another fight in Kosova. KSF better arm themselves to the teeth for the eventual Serb attack. It's not the first and not the last time we've been fighting each other. It's just after the next fight I have a prediction: there won't be any signs of Serbs ever living in Kosova.
(Zoti)
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Have you read the headline of this article?