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Saturday, 06.03.2010.

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Tadić insists on “Kosovo-UNMIK” name

President Boris Tadić said that Serbia will accept the participation of the Priština government in a regional conference only under the name ”Kosovo-UNMIK.”

Izvor: Tanjug

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ZMAJ

pre 14 godina

Pravi Hrvat

How convenient for Pravi Hrvat to suddenly appear from nowhere. You sure you're not an albanian in disguise? I know that Serbs and Croats don't like eachother to much but don't think Croats like you albanians much more. Of course they won't say no thanks to someone who is willing to fight for their cause. During the war in Croatia I remember watching an albanian couple being expelled from Croatia together with the Serbs. They didn't know why because they were albanian and thought they were just adored by the Croats. When I was junger my friend went to a Croatian club in Sweden, however, they didn't want to let him in because they thought he was albanians, even though he was swedish. You albanians can convince yourselves of what ever you want. Deep down inside you know how it really is.
(Mikael C, 7 March 2010 01:31)

I must mention, also, in the name of those they "did it" and some of those they died for us.., that it was significant number of Albanians on our- Serb side and against Croatians.. I honestly believe we should tell that...

I found this sentence in Mikael C comment- just perfect:

"Deep down inside you know how it really is."

istván

pre 14 godina

Just an interesting momentum that tells so much about Serbia's internal power structure: in the photo there are two Prime Ministers and one President. Maybe Mr Cvetkovic was too busy to attend.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

Pravi Hrvat

How convenient for Pravi Hrvat to suddenly appear from nowhere. You sure you're not an albanian in disguise? I know that Serbs and Croats don't like eachother to much but don't think Croats like you albanians much more. Of course they won't say no thanks to someone who is willing to fight for their cause. During the war in Croatia I remember watching an albanian couple being expelled from Croatia together with the Serbs. They didn't know why because they were albanian and thought they were just adored by the Croats. When I was junger my friend went to a Croatian club in Sweden, however, they didn't want to let him in because they thought he was albanians, even though he was swedish. You albanians can convince yourselves of what ever you want. Deep down inside you know how it really is.

ZMAJ

pre 14 godina

Yes, but you forgot that Albania nor Kosovo never bombarded Zagreb, they didn't kill any civilian in Slovenia nor in Zagreb, whereas Serbs did as much as they could, furthermore if it was up to you guys, now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.
Furthermore, we croats, will never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia, many of them joined our military ranks, and contributed to today's free Croatia, therefore we're thankful to them.
(Pravi Hrvat, 6 March 2010 17:40)

Now.., why would you AMERICAN- ALBANIAN try "to play" Croat here!!? Can you describe the source of this to me?! How's possible to just come between the REAL SERBS and try to sell REAL CROAT - just like that! It's like a German acting - Palestinian to a JEW!!

Analise:

"Albanian bombing of Croatia"- LOOK AT THIS!! One Croat would know that Albania was NEVER BEEN ABLE to bomb NO ONE!! Or, "..Slovenia nor in Zagreb.."- Croat that would EVER put Slovenia in "same pain" context DOES NOT EXIST!! Then- "..furthermore if it was up to you guys.."- LISTEN TO AMERICAN!! "..now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.." - same conflict, Croatia and Slovenia are together - IMPOSSIBLE and a Croat would avoid even the "fiction" of Great Serbia. "..never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia.."- here's American acquiring Albanian shape totally! "..therefore we're thankful to them.."- unbelievable how thankful this PRAVI HRVAT is!

DON'T irritate using this kind of nonsenses any more. Pay your Croatian next time!

Micheal Breathnach

pre 14 godina

I believe it's high time for the governments of Croatia and Slovenia to 'cop themselves on' and officially withdraw their rocognition of the illegally declared independence by the Albanian Regime in the Southern Serbian Province of Kosovo i Metohija.
Such a gesture would demonstrate the political maturity of these two small states and they would be doing the citizens of the EU a big favour.

MB,Ireland

Danny

pre 14 godina

(AFP)
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gykSF3t8pAM8jqRhC-w_SVOSGOOw

Belgrade officials boycott all international meetings where Kosovo leaders appear as state representatives.

In February, the Serbia-Kosovo dispute marred the inauguration of new Croatian President Ivo Josipovic, as Tadic boycotted it because of Sejdiu's presence.

And on Friday, Serbian Interior Minister Ivica Dacic, attending a regional summit in Tirana, left the conference hall as his Kosovo counterpart Zenun Pajaziti addressed the participants.

Dacic also refused to have a joint picture taken "with all the ministers", the Koha Ditore daily said.

pz

pre 14 godina

So the ethnic cleansing of 250,000 Krajina Serbs and the expulsion of 300,000 Serbs, Roma and Jews from Kosovo was all made up?

Really, ultra nationalists like you need a reality check.
(Niall O'Doherty, 6 March 2010 23:14)"

Which Jews, which 300 000 Serbs??! I think you sir need a reality check!

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

Yes, but you forgot that Albania nor Kosovo never bombarded Zagreb, they didn't kill any civilian in Slovenia nor in Zagreb, whereas Serbs did as much as they could, furthermore if it was up to you guys, now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.
Furthermore, we croats, will never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia, many of them joined our military ranks, and contributed to today's free Croatia, therefore we're thankful to them.
(Pravi Hrvat, 6 March 2010 17:40)

So the ethnic cleansing of 250,000 Krajina Serbs and the expulsion of 300,000 Serbs, Roma and Jews from Kosovo was all made up?

Really, ultra nationalists like you need a reality check.

Rashan

pre 14 godina

No difference between a pravi Horvat or a krivi Horvat. You finish the job in the 90's that you started in the 40's and yet you still whine about what?

Justice is a best served with the hands of time.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Yes, but you forgot that Albania nor Kosovo never bombarded Zagreb, they didn't kill any civilian in Slovenia nor in Zagreb, whereas Serbs did as much as they could, furthermore if it was up to you guys, now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.
Furthermore, we croats, will never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia, many of them joined our military ranks, and contributed to today's free Croatia, therefore we're thankful to them.
(Pravi Hrvat, 6 March 2010 17:40)
======================

I guess old allies will stick together in the end.
Croatia, Bosnian Muslims and Albanians have one thing in common, NAZIS.
Ever wondered why the Serbs fought you guys? Could it be because they did not feel safe after your independence when you brought out your symbols again and started saluting that way again?
How many of you attend Thomson's concerts where you readily sing you Ustasha songs and salute?
Serbs had to fight because they could not accept that regime and they feared for their lives. As it turns out they were right.

Milan

pre 14 godina

Staff,
According to Serbia’s constitution Kosovo is part of Serbia, so, why should Kosovo be represented as UNMIK, wouldn’t this be a breach of this constitution??!!
Bottom line, Kosovo, if it is represented, it will be represented by its leaders, the same ones who have declared it independent which made void both Serbia’s constitution (when it is about Kosovo) and 1244.
(pz, 6 March 2010 19:50)

Yes - Kosovo is part of Serbia. But Kosovo should be represented in organisations as part of Serbia under temporally UN administration.

pz

pre 14 godina

Staff,
According to Serbia’s constitution Kosovo is part of Serbia, so, why should Kosovo be represented as UNMIK, wouldn’t this be a breach of this constitution??!!
Bottom line, Kosovo, if it is represented, it will be represented by its leaders, the same ones who have declared it independent which made void both Serbia’s constitution (when it is about Kosovo) and 1244.

Jovan

pre 14 godina

pss, you only forget one little thing:

since there is no such thing like a kosovo-republic... there is nothing you could rub into the pro-serbian writers´ faces!

you still do not get it, it seems. this little freak creation is no state. it´s a foreign-occupied protectorate at its best.

I´d say southern Serbia will be reintegrated right after foreign-occupation is ended.

until that day, you may dream of being a state.

but, I would say that this socalled "newborn" won´t get very old...

ALBO USA

pre 14 godina

TADIC and his CO.

is slovenia says SORRY we don't care if you come or not we are inviting KOSOVA. Not Unmik.

Whats your next move... anybody...

maybe go play billiards. ( pool)

what are yo gona do.

Pravi Hrvat

pre 14 godina

"Tadić insists on “Kosovo-UNMIK” name"

The showdown begins! Let's see who will get its will, Serbs or Albanians.
Croatia and Slovenia may have recognized Kosovo but surely they have far more to gain from closer ties with Serbia. The fact is that they don't have anything to gain from Kosovo. Spoke to a croat some time ago. He didn't think more than 40-50 croats had ever been to Albania. There's simply no reason to go there. Recognizing Kosovo by the Mesic regime had only one purpose, to get acceptance by the EU/America. Now Croats and Slovenians are realizing that there is no stability in the Balkans without Serbia, also the beaches in Croatia need tourist cash.
(Mikael C, 6 March 2010 13:14)

Yes, but you forgot that Albania nor Kosovo never bombarded Zagreb, they didn't kill any civilian in Slovenia nor in Zagreb, whereas Serbs did as much as they could, furthermore if it was up to you guys, now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.
Furthermore, we croats, will never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia, many of them joined our military ranks, and contributed to today's free Croatia, therefore we're thankful to them.

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

Is media slow in Serbia today? Or perhaps its Tadic's informers? There wont be any national signs nor any flags, only names of respective head of state/PM.

Bob

pre 14 godina

Other Serbian provinces are not individually represented, so Kosovo should not be either. Serbia should not allow Kosovo to behave as if it is a country under any label.

Serbia could allow it to act as an autonomous province however.

Serbia could give the title of 'Autonomous Provincial Government of Kosovo' to Pristina. Under the terms of 1244 that would be a 'settlement' that would fit quite appropriately and it would put Serbia well 'on-side' as regards the issues involved.

On the other hand, it would be then be Pristina probably questioning the involvement because it does not want to confirm the status implied - even though that title is totally and completely within the terms of 1244.

pss

pre 14 godina

This is the future of Serbia and Kosovo in the EU and elsewhere.
Serbia insists that it be represented as UNMIK/Kosovo, Kosovo insists it is represented as Republic of Kosovo. As announced the attendees will only have their names in front of them with no denotation of who they represent.
Serbia goes home and tells everyone that they had their demands met, Kosovo goes home and tells everyone they had their demands met.
ProSerbian posters try to rub it in the face of the ProKosovo posters and the ProKosovo posters try to rub it in the face of the ProSerbian posters.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

I think Mr. Tadic needs to explain to his people, how his Minister of Interior Dacic took part in a conference held in Tirana,Albani yesterday.
This was Conference VII for southestern europe with main topic about border security. Kosova/o Minister of Interior Pajazit was at the same table with Dacic. No one walked out from that conference.

Staff

pre 14 godina

You are totally right Tadic ! Why should not Kosovo be represented by Unmik and 1244 since Kosovo is administrated by Unmik according to 1244 and UNSC until other is decided ? Kosovo is not a country and therefore cannot speak for itself. Everybody knows this so whats the problem ?

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"Tadić insists on “Kosovo-UNMIK” name"

The showdown begins! Let's see who will get its will, Serbs or Albanians.
Croatia and Slovenia may have recognized Kosovo but surely they have far more to gain from closer ties with Serbia. The fact is that they don't have anything to gain from Kosovo. Spoke to a croat some time ago. He didn't think more than 40-50 croats had ever been to Albania. There's simply no reason to go there. Recognizing Kosovo by the Mesic regime had only one purpose, to get acceptance by the EU/America. Now Croats and Slovenians are realizing that there is no stability in the Balkans without Serbia, also the beaches in Croatia need tourist cash.

Isaac Urquhart-Jones

pre 14 godina

As time passes, Belgrade will find it increasingly difficult - and ultimately impossible - to prevent the independent Kosovo from taking its legitimate place in international fora. The end result: Serbia will harvest what Messrs. Tadic and Jeremic are sowing today - isolation of Serbia herself.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

The main question here is who is more important to have at this conference? Serbia or "Kosova"?

The answer is pretty obvious. Without Serbia there's no point even having it. It would be like having a meeting with a wall.

I suspect UNMIK-Kosovo will attend. This would be a step forward to facing reality.

al-x

pre 14 godina

Good idea! The Kosovo authorities should accept this. Just because the continued validity of the UN mandate in Kosovo is recognised this way, doesn't mean that the Kosovo authorities have to compromise on their independence. And both sides can be at the table where they should be.

Once again, this is a very pragmatic move by a competent and progressive Serbian President.

Daniel

pre 14 godina

Good job Boris! One must be strong. The question for the others now is whether the benefits of Kosovo without Serbia outweigh the benefits of Serbia with Kosovo as Unmik-Kosovo. If they select the former, one must question their intelligence or their independence. One cannot let Bill Clinton and other old people make biased decisions about what's good for the whole region because of some personal priority.

dean SRB

pre 14 godina

Well Tadić was invited in Ptuj in order that Slovenia (Croatia and EU) avoid embarrassment if Serbian delegation decides to leave the conference concerning the titular representation of Kosovo Albanians following the fact that conference will be attended on high EU level starting with European President Rompuy.

And of course the "deal" achieved in Ptuj is total disaster for Serbia. Why?
First of all Serbia should and must not be having any advanced regional cooperation with ex-Yu countries which "recognized" Kosovo following the fact that with that "recognition" that same countries have broken down the very much legal base for their own independence, in the first place, and that was the legal advice by Badinter Commission which granted the borders of ex-Yu republics to become the recognized international borders.Till the moment this countries are to decide to reverse their lawless decision we are not to have any advanced bilateral contacts with them.
Second of all the deal of Ptuj is absolute nonsense and dangerous concept for Serbia because it suggests that all the parties in coming conference will not be marked with any country signs at their tables at all which then consequently means that Taci can present, understand himself and be addressed as "PM of Kosovo". This is then his official entrance with the function he prefers, but via the "small doors", dangerous persedent for Serbia which must be avoided.
As well and most important it introduces Kosovo illegal institutions in negotiations without supervision of Umnik.
Clear "first next diplomatic" step for "Kosovo Albanians" and again unfortunately with "blessing" of naive Tadić.

Tadić, there are the fundamentals which are simply not the questions of compromise (like the two I mentioned above) and with compromising on it you are dangerously undermining Serbia's basic national interests.
Dealing with this questions is not the matter of your personal political concept but you should be thinking and acting just as a part of Serbia's national being what you are not doing now, intentionally or not.

Demi

pre 14 godina

Well Mr.Thaci has already been invited as PM of Kosovo. And there will not be any names of countrys at the conference but only names of the representatives. President Fatmir Sejdiu and PM Hashim Thaci will represent the state of Kosovo while Zannier will represent UNMIK wich has no power at all in Kosovo. It means no ''Kosovo-Unmik'' at the conference but only Sejdiu,Thaci and Zannier. Who they represent everybody knowes.

UNMIK is there only not to make a shame of Tadic. Or else Tadic woulden't have come if UNMIK woulden't come. He is acting like a shild and is being treated as one.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

I think Mr. Tadic needs to explain to his people, how his Minister of Interior Dacic took part in a conference held in Tirana,Albani yesterday.
This was Conference VII for southestern europe with main topic about border security. Kosova/o Minister of Interior Pajazit was at the same table with Dacic. No one walked out from that conference.

Staff

pre 14 godina

You are totally right Tadic ! Why should not Kosovo be represented by Unmik and 1244 since Kosovo is administrated by Unmik according to 1244 and UNSC until other is decided ? Kosovo is not a country and therefore cannot speak for itself. Everybody knows this so whats the problem ?

pss

pre 14 godina

This is the future of Serbia and Kosovo in the EU and elsewhere.
Serbia insists that it be represented as UNMIK/Kosovo, Kosovo insists it is represented as Republic of Kosovo. As announced the attendees will only have their names in front of them with no denotation of who they represent.
Serbia goes home and tells everyone that they had their demands met, Kosovo goes home and tells everyone they had their demands met.
ProSerbian posters try to rub it in the face of the ProKosovo posters and the ProKosovo posters try to rub it in the face of the ProSerbian posters.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"Tadić insists on “Kosovo-UNMIK” name"

The showdown begins! Let's see who will get its will, Serbs or Albanians.
Croatia and Slovenia may have recognized Kosovo but surely they have far more to gain from closer ties with Serbia. The fact is that they don't have anything to gain from Kosovo. Spoke to a croat some time ago. He didn't think more than 40-50 croats had ever been to Albania. There's simply no reason to go there. Recognizing Kosovo by the Mesic regime had only one purpose, to get acceptance by the EU/America. Now Croats and Slovenians are realizing that there is no stability in the Balkans without Serbia, also the beaches in Croatia need tourist cash.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

The main question here is who is more important to have at this conference? Serbia or "Kosova"?

The answer is pretty obvious. Without Serbia there's no point even having it. It would be like having a meeting with a wall.

I suspect UNMIK-Kosovo will attend. This would be a step forward to facing reality.

Demi

pre 14 godina

Well Mr.Thaci has already been invited as PM of Kosovo. And there will not be any names of countrys at the conference but only names of the representatives. President Fatmir Sejdiu and PM Hashim Thaci will represent the state of Kosovo while Zannier will represent UNMIK wich has no power at all in Kosovo. It means no ''Kosovo-Unmik'' at the conference but only Sejdiu,Thaci and Zannier. Who they represent everybody knowes.

UNMIK is there only not to make a shame of Tadic. Or else Tadic woulden't have come if UNMIK woulden't come. He is acting like a shild and is being treated as one.

dean SRB

pre 14 godina

Well Tadić was invited in Ptuj in order that Slovenia (Croatia and EU) avoid embarrassment if Serbian delegation decides to leave the conference concerning the titular representation of Kosovo Albanians following the fact that conference will be attended on high EU level starting with European President Rompuy.

And of course the "deal" achieved in Ptuj is total disaster for Serbia. Why?
First of all Serbia should and must not be having any advanced regional cooperation with ex-Yu countries which "recognized" Kosovo following the fact that with that "recognition" that same countries have broken down the very much legal base for their own independence, in the first place, and that was the legal advice by Badinter Commission which granted the borders of ex-Yu republics to become the recognized international borders.Till the moment this countries are to decide to reverse their lawless decision we are not to have any advanced bilateral contacts with them.
Second of all the deal of Ptuj is absolute nonsense and dangerous concept for Serbia because it suggests that all the parties in coming conference will not be marked with any country signs at their tables at all which then consequently means that Taci can present, understand himself and be addressed as "PM of Kosovo". This is then his official entrance with the function he prefers, but via the "small doors", dangerous persedent for Serbia which must be avoided.
As well and most important it introduces Kosovo illegal institutions in negotiations without supervision of Umnik.
Clear "first next diplomatic" step for "Kosovo Albanians" and again unfortunately with "blessing" of naive Tadić.

Tadić, there are the fundamentals which are simply not the questions of compromise (like the two I mentioned above) and with compromising on it you are dangerously undermining Serbia's basic national interests.
Dealing with this questions is not the matter of your personal political concept but you should be thinking and acting just as a part of Serbia's national being what you are not doing now, intentionally or not.

Pravi Hrvat

pre 14 godina

"Tadić insists on “Kosovo-UNMIK” name"

The showdown begins! Let's see who will get its will, Serbs or Albanians.
Croatia and Slovenia may have recognized Kosovo but surely they have far more to gain from closer ties with Serbia. The fact is that they don't have anything to gain from Kosovo. Spoke to a croat some time ago. He didn't think more than 40-50 croats had ever been to Albania. There's simply no reason to go there. Recognizing Kosovo by the Mesic regime had only one purpose, to get acceptance by the EU/America. Now Croats and Slovenians are realizing that there is no stability in the Balkans without Serbia, also the beaches in Croatia need tourist cash.
(Mikael C, 6 March 2010 13:14)

Yes, but you forgot that Albania nor Kosovo never bombarded Zagreb, they didn't kill any civilian in Slovenia nor in Zagreb, whereas Serbs did as much as they could, furthermore if it was up to you guys, now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.
Furthermore, we croats, will never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia, many of them joined our military ranks, and contributed to today's free Croatia, therefore we're thankful to them.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

Yes, but you forgot that Albania nor Kosovo never bombarded Zagreb, they didn't kill any civilian in Slovenia nor in Zagreb, whereas Serbs did as much as they could, furthermore if it was up to you guys, now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.
Furthermore, we croats, will never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia, many of them joined our military ranks, and contributed to today's free Croatia, therefore we're thankful to them.
(Pravi Hrvat, 6 March 2010 17:40)

So the ethnic cleansing of 250,000 Krajina Serbs and the expulsion of 300,000 Serbs, Roma and Jews from Kosovo was all made up?

Really, ultra nationalists like you need a reality check.

Daniel

pre 14 godina

Good job Boris! One must be strong. The question for the others now is whether the benefits of Kosovo without Serbia outweigh the benefits of Serbia with Kosovo as Unmik-Kosovo. If they select the former, one must question their intelligence or their independence. One cannot let Bill Clinton and other old people make biased decisions about what's good for the whole region because of some personal priority.

Isaac Urquhart-Jones

pre 14 godina

As time passes, Belgrade will find it increasingly difficult - and ultimately impossible - to prevent the independent Kosovo from taking its legitimate place in international fora. The end result: Serbia will harvest what Messrs. Tadic and Jeremic are sowing today - isolation of Serbia herself.

pz

pre 14 godina

Staff,
According to Serbia’s constitution Kosovo is part of Serbia, so, why should Kosovo be represented as UNMIK, wouldn’t this be a breach of this constitution??!!
Bottom line, Kosovo, if it is represented, it will be represented by its leaders, the same ones who have declared it independent which made void both Serbia’s constitution (when it is about Kosovo) and 1244.

al-x

pre 14 godina

Good idea! The Kosovo authorities should accept this. Just because the continued validity of the UN mandate in Kosovo is recognised this way, doesn't mean that the Kosovo authorities have to compromise on their independence. And both sides can be at the table where they should be.

Once again, this is a very pragmatic move by a competent and progressive Serbian President.

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

Is media slow in Serbia today? Or perhaps its Tadic's informers? There wont be any national signs nor any flags, only names of respective head of state/PM.

Bob

pre 14 godina

Other Serbian provinces are not individually represented, so Kosovo should not be either. Serbia should not allow Kosovo to behave as if it is a country under any label.

Serbia could allow it to act as an autonomous province however.

Serbia could give the title of 'Autonomous Provincial Government of Kosovo' to Pristina. Under the terms of 1244 that would be a 'settlement' that would fit quite appropriately and it would put Serbia well 'on-side' as regards the issues involved.

On the other hand, it would be then be Pristina probably questioning the involvement because it does not want to confirm the status implied - even though that title is totally and completely within the terms of 1244.

Jovan

pre 14 godina

pss, you only forget one little thing:

since there is no such thing like a kosovo-republic... there is nothing you could rub into the pro-serbian writers´ faces!

you still do not get it, it seems. this little freak creation is no state. it´s a foreign-occupied protectorate at its best.

I´d say southern Serbia will be reintegrated right after foreign-occupation is ended.

until that day, you may dream of being a state.

but, I would say that this socalled "newborn" won´t get very old...

Milan

pre 14 godina

Staff,
According to Serbia’s constitution Kosovo is part of Serbia, so, why should Kosovo be represented as UNMIK, wouldn’t this be a breach of this constitution??!!
Bottom line, Kosovo, if it is represented, it will be represented by its leaders, the same ones who have declared it independent which made void both Serbia’s constitution (when it is about Kosovo) and 1244.
(pz, 6 March 2010 19:50)

Yes - Kosovo is part of Serbia. But Kosovo should be represented in organisations as part of Serbia under temporally UN administration.

ALBO USA

pre 14 godina

TADIC and his CO.

is slovenia says SORRY we don't care if you come or not we are inviting KOSOVA. Not Unmik.

Whats your next move... anybody...

maybe go play billiards. ( pool)

what are yo gona do.

ZMAJ

pre 14 godina

Yes, but you forgot that Albania nor Kosovo never bombarded Zagreb, they didn't kill any civilian in Slovenia nor in Zagreb, whereas Serbs did as much as they could, furthermore if it was up to you guys, now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.
Furthermore, we croats, will never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia, many of them joined our military ranks, and contributed to today's free Croatia, therefore we're thankful to them.
(Pravi Hrvat, 6 March 2010 17:40)

Now.., why would you AMERICAN- ALBANIAN try "to play" Croat here!!? Can you describe the source of this to me?! How's possible to just come between the REAL SERBS and try to sell REAL CROAT - just like that! It's like a German acting - Palestinian to a JEW!!

Analise:

"Albanian bombing of Croatia"- LOOK AT THIS!! One Croat would know that Albania was NEVER BEEN ABLE to bomb NO ONE!! Or, "..Slovenia nor in Zagreb.."- Croat that would EVER put Slovenia in "same pain" context DOES NOT EXIST!! Then- "..furthermore if it was up to you guys.."- LISTEN TO AMERICAN!! "..now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.." - same conflict, Croatia and Slovenia are together - IMPOSSIBLE and a Croat would avoid even the "fiction" of Great Serbia. "..never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia.."- here's American acquiring Albanian shape totally! "..therefore we're thankful to them.."- unbelievable how thankful this PRAVI HRVAT is!

DON'T irritate using this kind of nonsenses any more. Pay your Croatian next time!

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Yes, but you forgot that Albania nor Kosovo never bombarded Zagreb, they didn't kill any civilian in Slovenia nor in Zagreb, whereas Serbs did as much as they could, furthermore if it was up to you guys, now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.
Furthermore, we croats, will never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia, many of them joined our military ranks, and contributed to today's free Croatia, therefore we're thankful to them.
(Pravi Hrvat, 6 March 2010 17:40)
======================

I guess old allies will stick together in the end.
Croatia, Bosnian Muslims and Albanians have one thing in common, NAZIS.
Ever wondered why the Serbs fought you guys? Could it be because they did not feel safe after your independence when you brought out your symbols again and started saluting that way again?
How many of you attend Thomson's concerts where you readily sing you Ustasha songs and salute?
Serbs had to fight because they could not accept that regime and they feared for their lives. As it turns out they were right.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

Pravi Hrvat

How convenient for Pravi Hrvat to suddenly appear from nowhere. You sure you're not an albanian in disguise? I know that Serbs and Croats don't like eachother to much but don't think Croats like you albanians much more. Of course they won't say no thanks to someone who is willing to fight for their cause. During the war in Croatia I remember watching an albanian couple being expelled from Croatia together with the Serbs. They didn't know why because they were albanian and thought they were just adored by the Croats. When I was junger my friend went to a Croatian club in Sweden, however, they didn't want to let him in because they thought he was albanians, even though he was swedish. You albanians can convince yourselves of what ever you want. Deep down inside you know how it really is.

pz

pre 14 godina

So the ethnic cleansing of 250,000 Krajina Serbs and the expulsion of 300,000 Serbs, Roma and Jews from Kosovo was all made up?

Really, ultra nationalists like you need a reality check.
(Niall O'Doherty, 6 March 2010 23:14)"

Which Jews, which 300 000 Serbs??! I think you sir need a reality check!

Danny

pre 14 godina

(AFP)
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gykSF3t8pAM8jqRhC-w_SVOSGOOw

Belgrade officials boycott all international meetings where Kosovo leaders appear as state representatives.

In February, the Serbia-Kosovo dispute marred the inauguration of new Croatian President Ivo Josipovic, as Tadic boycotted it because of Sejdiu's presence.

And on Friday, Serbian Interior Minister Ivica Dacic, attending a regional summit in Tirana, left the conference hall as his Kosovo counterpart Zenun Pajaziti addressed the participants.

Dacic also refused to have a joint picture taken "with all the ministers", the Koha Ditore daily said.

Micheal Breathnach

pre 14 godina

I believe it's high time for the governments of Croatia and Slovenia to 'cop themselves on' and officially withdraw their rocognition of the illegally declared independence by the Albanian Regime in the Southern Serbian Province of Kosovo i Metohija.
Such a gesture would demonstrate the political maturity of these two small states and they would be doing the citizens of the EU a big favour.

MB,Ireland

ZMAJ

pre 14 godina

Pravi Hrvat

How convenient for Pravi Hrvat to suddenly appear from nowhere. You sure you're not an albanian in disguise? I know that Serbs and Croats don't like eachother to much but don't think Croats like you albanians much more. Of course they won't say no thanks to someone who is willing to fight for their cause. During the war in Croatia I remember watching an albanian couple being expelled from Croatia together with the Serbs. They didn't know why because they were albanian and thought they were just adored by the Croats. When I was junger my friend went to a Croatian club in Sweden, however, they didn't want to let him in because they thought he was albanians, even though he was swedish. You albanians can convince yourselves of what ever you want. Deep down inside you know how it really is.
(Mikael C, 7 March 2010 01:31)

I must mention, also, in the name of those they "did it" and some of those they died for us.., that it was significant number of Albanians on our- Serb side and against Croatians.. I honestly believe we should tell that...

I found this sentence in Mikael C comment- just perfect:

"Deep down inside you know how it really is."

Rashan

pre 14 godina

No difference between a pravi Horvat or a krivi Horvat. You finish the job in the 90's that you started in the 40's and yet you still whine about what?

Justice is a best served with the hands of time.

istván

pre 14 godina

Just an interesting momentum that tells so much about Serbia's internal power structure: in the photo there are two Prime Ministers and one President. Maybe Mr Cvetkovic was too busy to attend.

Demi

pre 14 godina

Well Mr.Thaci has already been invited as PM of Kosovo. And there will not be any names of countrys at the conference but only names of the representatives. President Fatmir Sejdiu and PM Hashim Thaci will represent the state of Kosovo while Zannier will represent UNMIK wich has no power at all in Kosovo. It means no ''Kosovo-Unmik'' at the conference but only Sejdiu,Thaci and Zannier. Who they represent everybody knowes.

UNMIK is there only not to make a shame of Tadic. Or else Tadic woulden't have come if UNMIK woulden't come. He is acting like a shild and is being treated as one.

Isaac Urquhart-Jones

pre 14 godina

As time passes, Belgrade will find it increasingly difficult - and ultimately impossible - to prevent the independent Kosovo from taking its legitimate place in international fora. The end result: Serbia will harvest what Messrs. Tadic and Jeremic are sowing today - isolation of Serbia herself.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

I think Mr. Tadic needs to explain to his people, how his Minister of Interior Dacic took part in a conference held in Tirana,Albani yesterday.
This was Conference VII for southestern europe with main topic about border security. Kosova/o Minister of Interior Pajazit was at the same table with Dacic. No one walked out from that conference.

Pravi Hrvat

pre 14 godina

"Tadić insists on “Kosovo-UNMIK” name"

The showdown begins! Let's see who will get its will, Serbs or Albanians.
Croatia and Slovenia may have recognized Kosovo but surely they have far more to gain from closer ties with Serbia. The fact is that they don't have anything to gain from Kosovo. Spoke to a croat some time ago. He didn't think more than 40-50 croats had ever been to Albania. There's simply no reason to go there. Recognizing Kosovo by the Mesic regime had only one purpose, to get acceptance by the EU/America. Now Croats and Slovenians are realizing that there is no stability in the Balkans without Serbia, also the beaches in Croatia need tourist cash.
(Mikael C, 6 March 2010 13:14)

Yes, but you forgot that Albania nor Kosovo never bombarded Zagreb, they didn't kill any civilian in Slovenia nor in Zagreb, whereas Serbs did as much as they could, furthermore if it was up to you guys, now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.
Furthermore, we croats, will never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia, many of them joined our military ranks, and contributed to today's free Croatia, therefore we're thankful to them.

al-x

pre 14 godina

Good idea! The Kosovo authorities should accept this. Just because the continued validity of the UN mandate in Kosovo is recognised this way, doesn't mean that the Kosovo authorities have to compromise on their independence. And both sides can be at the table where they should be.

Once again, this is a very pragmatic move by a competent and progressive Serbian President.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"Tadić insists on “Kosovo-UNMIK” name"

The showdown begins! Let's see who will get its will, Serbs or Albanians.
Croatia and Slovenia may have recognized Kosovo but surely they have far more to gain from closer ties with Serbia. The fact is that they don't have anything to gain from Kosovo. Spoke to a croat some time ago. He didn't think more than 40-50 croats had ever been to Albania. There's simply no reason to go there. Recognizing Kosovo by the Mesic regime had only one purpose, to get acceptance by the EU/America. Now Croats and Slovenians are realizing that there is no stability in the Balkans without Serbia, also the beaches in Croatia need tourist cash.

Staff

pre 14 godina

You are totally right Tadic ! Why should not Kosovo be represented by Unmik and 1244 since Kosovo is administrated by Unmik according to 1244 and UNSC until other is decided ? Kosovo is not a country and therefore cannot speak for itself. Everybody knows this so whats the problem ?

Zoran

pre 14 godina

The main question here is who is more important to have at this conference? Serbia or "Kosova"?

The answer is pretty obvious. Without Serbia there's no point even having it. It would be like having a meeting with a wall.

I suspect UNMIK-Kosovo will attend. This would be a step forward to facing reality.

dean SRB

pre 14 godina

Well Tadić was invited in Ptuj in order that Slovenia (Croatia and EU) avoid embarrassment if Serbian delegation decides to leave the conference concerning the titular representation of Kosovo Albanians following the fact that conference will be attended on high EU level starting with European President Rompuy.

And of course the "deal" achieved in Ptuj is total disaster for Serbia. Why?
First of all Serbia should and must not be having any advanced regional cooperation with ex-Yu countries which "recognized" Kosovo following the fact that with that "recognition" that same countries have broken down the very much legal base for their own independence, in the first place, and that was the legal advice by Badinter Commission which granted the borders of ex-Yu republics to become the recognized international borders.Till the moment this countries are to decide to reverse their lawless decision we are not to have any advanced bilateral contacts with them.
Second of all the deal of Ptuj is absolute nonsense and dangerous concept for Serbia because it suggests that all the parties in coming conference will not be marked with any country signs at their tables at all which then consequently means that Taci can present, understand himself and be addressed as "PM of Kosovo". This is then his official entrance with the function he prefers, but via the "small doors", dangerous persedent for Serbia which must be avoided.
As well and most important it introduces Kosovo illegal institutions in negotiations without supervision of Umnik.
Clear "first next diplomatic" step for "Kosovo Albanians" and again unfortunately with "blessing" of naive Tadić.

Tadić, there are the fundamentals which are simply not the questions of compromise (like the two I mentioned above) and with compromising on it you are dangerously undermining Serbia's basic national interests.
Dealing with this questions is not the matter of your personal political concept but you should be thinking and acting just as a part of Serbia's national being what you are not doing now, intentionally or not.

Daniel

pre 14 godina

Good job Boris! One must be strong. The question for the others now is whether the benefits of Kosovo without Serbia outweigh the benefits of Serbia with Kosovo as Unmik-Kosovo. If they select the former, one must question their intelligence or their independence. One cannot let Bill Clinton and other old people make biased decisions about what's good for the whole region because of some personal priority.

ALBO USA

pre 14 godina

TADIC and his CO.

is slovenia says SORRY we don't care if you come or not we are inviting KOSOVA. Not Unmik.

Whats your next move... anybody...

maybe go play billiards. ( pool)

what are yo gona do.

pz

pre 14 godina

Staff,
According to Serbia’s constitution Kosovo is part of Serbia, so, why should Kosovo be represented as UNMIK, wouldn’t this be a breach of this constitution??!!
Bottom line, Kosovo, if it is represented, it will be represented by its leaders, the same ones who have declared it independent which made void both Serbia’s constitution (when it is about Kosovo) and 1244.

Milan

pre 14 godina

Staff,
According to Serbia’s constitution Kosovo is part of Serbia, so, why should Kosovo be represented as UNMIK, wouldn’t this be a breach of this constitution??!!
Bottom line, Kosovo, if it is represented, it will be represented by its leaders, the same ones who have declared it independent which made void both Serbia’s constitution (when it is about Kosovo) and 1244.
(pz, 6 March 2010 19:50)

Yes - Kosovo is part of Serbia. But Kosovo should be represented in organisations as part of Serbia under temporally UN administration.

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

Is media slow in Serbia today? Or perhaps its Tadic's informers? There wont be any national signs nor any flags, only names of respective head of state/PM.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

Yes, but you forgot that Albania nor Kosovo never bombarded Zagreb, they didn't kill any civilian in Slovenia nor in Zagreb, whereas Serbs did as much as they could, furthermore if it was up to you guys, now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.
Furthermore, we croats, will never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia, many of them joined our military ranks, and contributed to today's free Croatia, therefore we're thankful to them.
(Pravi Hrvat, 6 March 2010 17:40)

So the ethnic cleansing of 250,000 Krajina Serbs and the expulsion of 300,000 Serbs, Roma and Jews from Kosovo was all made up?

Really, ultra nationalists like you need a reality check.

pz

pre 14 godina

So the ethnic cleansing of 250,000 Krajina Serbs and the expulsion of 300,000 Serbs, Roma and Jews from Kosovo was all made up?

Really, ultra nationalists like you need a reality check.
(Niall O'Doherty, 6 March 2010 23:14)"

Which Jews, which 300 000 Serbs??! I think you sir need a reality check!

Jovan

pre 14 godina

pss, you only forget one little thing:

since there is no such thing like a kosovo-republic... there is nothing you could rub into the pro-serbian writers´ faces!

you still do not get it, it seems. this little freak creation is no state. it´s a foreign-occupied protectorate at its best.

I´d say southern Serbia will be reintegrated right after foreign-occupation is ended.

until that day, you may dream of being a state.

but, I would say that this socalled "newborn" won´t get very old...

Bob

pre 14 godina

Other Serbian provinces are not individually represented, so Kosovo should not be either. Serbia should not allow Kosovo to behave as if it is a country under any label.

Serbia could allow it to act as an autonomous province however.

Serbia could give the title of 'Autonomous Provincial Government of Kosovo' to Pristina. Under the terms of 1244 that would be a 'settlement' that would fit quite appropriately and it would put Serbia well 'on-side' as regards the issues involved.

On the other hand, it would be then be Pristina probably questioning the involvement because it does not want to confirm the status implied - even though that title is totally and completely within the terms of 1244.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Yes, but you forgot that Albania nor Kosovo never bombarded Zagreb, they didn't kill any civilian in Slovenia nor in Zagreb, whereas Serbs did as much as they could, furthermore if it was up to you guys, now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.
Furthermore, we croats, will never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia, many of them joined our military ranks, and contributed to today's free Croatia, therefore we're thankful to them.
(Pravi Hrvat, 6 March 2010 17:40)
======================

I guess old allies will stick together in the end.
Croatia, Bosnian Muslims and Albanians have one thing in common, NAZIS.
Ever wondered why the Serbs fought you guys? Could it be because they did not feel safe after your independence when you brought out your symbols again and started saluting that way again?
How many of you attend Thomson's concerts where you readily sing you Ustasha songs and salute?
Serbs had to fight because they could not accept that regime and they feared for their lives. As it turns out they were right.

ZMAJ

pre 14 godina

Yes, but you forgot that Albania nor Kosovo never bombarded Zagreb, they didn't kill any civilian in Slovenia nor in Zagreb, whereas Serbs did as much as they could, furthermore if it was up to you guys, now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.
Furthermore, we croats, will never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia, many of them joined our military ranks, and contributed to today's free Croatia, therefore we're thankful to them.
(Pravi Hrvat, 6 March 2010 17:40)

Now.., why would you AMERICAN- ALBANIAN try "to play" Croat here!!? Can you describe the source of this to me?! How's possible to just come between the REAL SERBS and try to sell REAL CROAT - just like that! It's like a German acting - Palestinian to a JEW!!

Analise:

"Albanian bombing of Croatia"- LOOK AT THIS!! One Croat would know that Albania was NEVER BEEN ABLE to bomb NO ONE!! Or, "..Slovenia nor in Zagreb.."- Croat that would EVER put Slovenia in "same pain" context DOES NOT EXIST!! Then- "..furthermore if it was up to you guys.."- LISTEN TO AMERICAN!! "..now half of Croatia and Slovenia would have been called great Serbia.." - same conflict, Croatia and Slovenia are together - IMPOSSIBLE and a Croat would avoid even the "fiction" of Great Serbia. "..never forget the contributions of Albanians in the war of Croatia.."- here's American acquiring Albanian shape totally! "..therefore we're thankful to them.."- unbelievable how thankful this PRAVI HRVAT is!

DON'T irritate using this kind of nonsenses any more. Pay your Croatian next time!

pss

pre 14 godina

This is the future of Serbia and Kosovo in the EU and elsewhere.
Serbia insists that it be represented as UNMIK/Kosovo, Kosovo insists it is represented as Republic of Kosovo. As announced the attendees will only have their names in front of them with no denotation of who they represent.
Serbia goes home and tells everyone that they had their demands met, Kosovo goes home and tells everyone they had their demands met.
ProSerbian posters try to rub it in the face of the ProKosovo posters and the ProKosovo posters try to rub it in the face of the ProSerbian posters.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

Pravi Hrvat

How convenient for Pravi Hrvat to suddenly appear from nowhere. You sure you're not an albanian in disguise? I know that Serbs and Croats don't like eachother to much but don't think Croats like you albanians much more. Of course they won't say no thanks to someone who is willing to fight for their cause. During the war in Croatia I remember watching an albanian couple being expelled from Croatia together with the Serbs. They didn't know why because they were albanian and thought they were just adored by the Croats. When I was junger my friend went to a Croatian club in Sweden, however, they didn't want to let him in because they thought he was albanians, even though he was swedish. You albanians can convince yourselves of what ever you want. Deep down inside you know how it really is.

Rashan

pre 14 godina

No difference between a pravi Horvat or a krivi Horvat. You finish the job in the 90's that you started in the 40's and yet you still whine about what?

Justice is a best served with the hands of time.

Danny

pre 14 godina

(AFP)
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gykSF3t8pAM8jqRhC-w_SVOSGOOw

Belgrade officials boycott all international meetings where Kosovo leaders appear as state representatives.

In February, the Serbia-Kosovo dispute marred the inauguration of new Croatian President Ivo Josipovic, as Tadic boycotted it because of Sejdiu's presence.

And on Friday, Serbian Interior Minister Ivica Dacic, attending a regional summit in Tirana, left the conference hall as his Kosovo counterpart Zenun Pajaziti addressed the participants.

Dacic also refused to have a joint picture taken "with all the ministers", the Koha Ditore daily said.

Micheal Breathnach

pre 14 godina

I believe it's high time for the governments of Croatia and Slovenia to 'cop themselves on' and officially withdraw their rocognition of the illegally declared independence by the Albanian Regime in the Southern Serbian Province of Kosovo i Metohija.
Such a gesture would demonstrate the political maturity of these two small states and they would be doing the citizens of the EU a big favour.

MB,Ireland

ZMAJ

pre 14 godina

Pravi Hrvat

How convenient for Pravi Hrvat to suddenly appear from nowhere. You sure you're not an albanian in disguise? I know that Serbs and Croats don't like eachother to much but don't think Croats like you albanians much more. Of course they won't say no thanks to someone who is willing to fight for their cause. During the war in Croatia I remember watching an albanian couple being expelled from Croatia together with the Serbs. They didn't know why because they were albanian and thought they were just adored by the Croats. When I was junger my friend went to a Croatian club in Sweden, however, they didn't want to let him in because they thought he was albanians, even though he was swedish. You albanians can convince yourselves of what ever you want. Deep down inside you know how it really is.
(Mikael C, 7 March 2010 01:31)

I must mention, also, in the name of those they "did it" and some of those they died for us.., that it was significant number of Albanians on our- Serb side and against Croatians.. I honestly believe we should tell that...

I found this sentence in Mikael C comment- just perfect:

"Deep down inside you know how it really is."

istván

pre 14 godina

Just an interesting momentum that tells so much about Serbia's internal power structure: in the photo there are two Prime Ministers and one President. Maybe Mr Cvetkovic was too busy to attend.