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"Serbia will have to choose Kosovo or EU"

Vice-President of the U.S. Institute for Peace Daniel Serwer said that Serbia won’t join the EU unless it "de facto recognizes Kosovo".

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Ataman

pre 14 godina

May we suggest that next time you work as root?


Regards,

B92
(B92, 4 March 2010 10:23)

Normally the root access is disabled by default.
But maybe Dell can do more for us - his supervisors are the root (cause). :-O

B92

pre 14 godina

Ataman,

We are aware of the power of "sudo" and did not leave it out. The system, however, objected to displaying the text, written in that format.

May we suggest that next time you work as root?


Regards,

B92

AdamNYC

pre 14 godina

@ ron who says, "Kosovo will never enter EU unless there is a mutual agreed deal! "

serbia is irrelevant in that regards... eventually the remaining EU holdouts will not gain any political capital by perpetrating their so-called "principled" stance...especially after ICJ returns an opinion.

It is inevitable... serbia is and will continue to be irrelevant.

sj

pre 14 godina

Another one of these Pennsylvania Avenue “Think Tanks” making bold statements where no one dare to go.

Gee! I wish I had five cents for every time one of these government-funded prognosticators come out with their idiotic statements, I would be wealthy beyond belief. The U.S. Institute for Peace sounds like something out of Orwell’s 1984. I have a question for this Vice El Presidente, what happened to the weapons sale to Taiwan? Did we get stuck somewhere? Hmmmmmmmmm? Or even better how is the US going in Afghanistan or Iraq???????

Believe me if things were going so well with Kosovo there would be no need for the Institute to raise its ugly head.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Darn, B92 - you left the "sudo" out of my commands... "kextutil" or "kextload" won't work without "sudo", even on Dell. :-)

You need supervisor rights to execute either command and with this Kosovo story there are no rights and all involved supervisors of Dell are probably... (oh, well, nevermind). :-(

Skiff

pre 14 godina

Serbia should choose reconciliation, forgiveness, love and peace!

You want all those, then go back to the Carpathian mountains where all the south slavs belong, only then will there be a lasting peace in the Ballkans

Ataman

pre 14 godina

I think, Mike a completely new set of kernel extensions needs to be written for the Dell if it wants to support Mac OS X Server properly.

The most faulty piece of software is the icj.kext on that server.

Here is the biggest bug:

“Belgrade asked the court to give an opinion on the question and I believe that it should respect the decision and act in accordance with it, whether positive or negative. On the other hand, Priština did not want it and was against sending the case to the International Court of Justice, therefore Kosovo already has more right to reject its decision than Belgrade,” said Serwer.

This is the way it probably (not) works, but is similar to a large degree.

Place of incident: Ibarska Magistrala. There is written on the sign: "80", you know, that white sign with red paint around it, in the middle the number "80", black on white.

Me: inside my car, driving towards that Kosova Republic. The odometer shows "80". My car is U.S. specification car, so it's 80 mph.

Than there is a MUP guy with shock looking at me next to a white-blue Yugo with a laser on a tripod.

This probably smells like a ticket.

Or not.

What I say to MUP: you say I am going 80 mph in 80 km/h zone. But I did not ask you with your goddamn laser and Yugo to sit on the road and measure my speed. That was your idea. What you say, I don't care. Good-bye!

Maybe not the smartest way to talk out of the ticket...

Better verify that KEXT...

$sudo kextload /tmp/icj.kext

Does not load? Verify it:

$sudo kextutil /tmp/icj.kext

But if panic happens, better use proper hardware with the server, don't rely on Dell and pirated system. And in all cases: if necessary hardware resources are missing, the driver will simply panic and the server shut down.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Kosovo will never enter EU unless there is a mutual agreed deal!
(Ron, 3 March 2010 15:00)

neither will Serbia
(UNE, 3 March 2010 16:40)
=====================

But Serbia is functioning very nicely even without being in the EU. Is Kosova?

Serbia can trade with any country in the world. Serbs can travel to any country in the world with their passports. Serbian president is welcomed as a president anywhere in the world. Can you say the same about "Kosova"?
As you can see, Serbia can function well and if she wants to can wait for as long as it takes.
How long before your masters run out of money and patience with you? How long before charity dries up and you have to trade your way out of your problems? By trade your way out, I mean how many countries are willing to trade with you directly and want the commodity you offer?

milan

pre 14 godina

Serbia only has to chose one path and that path is guarded not by man built walls but rather by eternal principals and truths.

Serbia should choose reconciliation, forgiveness, love and peace!

and for the wrongs done by us towards others we should ask forgiveness. These are the only seeds which once planted will bear the rich fruit all men and woman of good truly strive for.

We dont need superstates like the EU, super economic blocks, corpoprate domination, military domination-------we need each other.

peace is every step
the shining red sun is my heart
each flower smiles with me
how green, how fresh all that grows
how cool the wind blows
peace is every step
it turns the endless path to joy

Milan

pre 14 godina

Serwer said that northern Kosovo is "under Belgrade’s direct control" and that he "would not refer to it as parallel institutions, but Serb institutions"

So - is's first words of REALITY from US hypocrites. North - is still part of Serbia.

Daniel Serwer said that Serbia won’t join the EU unless it "de facto recognizes Kosovo".

Republic of Cyprus join EU without recognizing illegal turkish state in North Cyprus. So mr Serwer????

Micheal Breathnach

pre 14 godina

'Vice-President of the U.S. Institute for Peace Daniel Serwer said that Serbia won’t join the EU unless it "de facto recognizes Kosovo".'

Who is this individual? It sounds to me that he is talking throught that which looks like his elbow.

He obviously hasn't a clue about Serbia or what happened in the province of Kosovo i Metohija.

Am I supposed to believe thet this U.S. Institute for Peace is an authority on peace?
I wonder how this 'U.S. Institute for Peace' regards the fact that the U.S. itself, has bombed 20 nations in Central & South America since 1945 and has practically been at war with some nation or other every year since then.

MB,Ireland

John

pre 14 godina

have fun with your bankrupt eu then!
(stari, 3 March 2010 18:29)

Speaking of bankruptcy, you heard of Greece and Spain? I wonder, how they will repay their debt. Money seems not to be at their disposal at this time....

winston

pre 14 godina

Read the story on today's B92 - Jeremic Says No Kosovo for EU, Daniel. Can you talking heads give it a rest? Your opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one. Hopefully, the EU will be just a memory soon, what will you talk about then, Daniel?

Logic

pre 14 godina

@PRN

"...unless Serbia want to be brought under Kosovo sovergnty where Thaci and Haradinaj fire the schoots and Mr.Salih Berisha become a King of Illyria"

Well, yesterday, a doctor turned politician, set a diagnosis for an individual, prescribed a treatment and went even farther on setting a collective diagnosis on a very broad segment of population worldwide. Well,quiet ambitious for somebody who practised more politics than the trade he was educated for. Still, since you were the one admiring the "good" Doctor and asking his help in dealing with lunacy there you got the recipe on the spot: run to the nearest ambulance with your problem. Don't be afraid, won't hurt.

PS. King of Illyria? But isn't "Illyria" shoe-paste brand? What is the king's role in such a kingdom? Shoe shining?

nikola

pre 14 godina

okay I'm Serbian and I can say that it is completely obvious that our admission into the EU will be conditional on accepting Kosovo's independence. Most people in Serbia know this but choose to ignore it. This doesn't mean I support Albanians. I think its dispicable what you guys have done, you have stolen another country's territory that has been theirs for centuries, you destroy Serbian churches, Serbs live in constant fear and live in isolated ghettos. You know your independence is illegal but choose to deny it anyway because you have the support of greater powers. In short your nation is a nation of puppets used by greater powers to achieve their interests. Instead of fixing things in your own country Albania you move to other countries and then steal their land. But in Serbia I believe we have to realize that Kosovo is lost. If we really wanted to keep Kosovo we would have elected Tomislav Nikolic who would have threatened to put Russian military bases in Southern Serbia near the border of Kosovo. We would have told Europe if you recognize Kosovo we will no longer seek EU membership. With a real threat of Russian influence the EU would have been scared shitless and would have listened to Serbian demands to keep Kosovo. Serbia's EU ambitions might have been delayed for a couple years but honestly I don't believe by that much. Even now in Europe their saying 2018 is the earliest realistic date. This is utter nonsense since Serbia is undoubtedly at the same level of development as Romania and Bulgaria with a lot less corruption than Bulgaria. Instead we elected this Western puppet Boris Tadic who although he may be well intentioned and want to keep Kosovo...nobody in the EU listens to him because he has no diplomatic power.

Mike

pre 14 godina

Well it's been a while since we've had an Internal Serwer Error...

“Belgrade has the right not to recognize Kosovo and no one will force it to do so, but Serbia cannot expect to be an EU member-state and keep Kosovo – it’s one or the other,” Serwer told Voice of America.

-- Sorry Mr. Serwer, the Holbrook Doctrine is no longer valid. Much has changed in the last 10 years and the EU isn't interested in punishing what it sees as the lynchpin state to Balkan integration in the EU. Pristina’s irredentism doesn’t trump Belgrade’s importance.

However, he said that the "EU cannot tell Belgrade that, because there are five of the 27 EU member-states that do not recognize Kosovo independence, but I think that the stance of the majority will take over in the end.”

-- You have no evidence to support this. You base this on a wing and a prayer. If 5 states are blocking Kosovo from the EU, and they are blocking because of Serbia's position, AND the rest of the EU are increasingly coming to terms with needing some form of renegotiation over Kosovo's status, "majority rules" has no basis.

He went on to say that the decision of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) – that is deliberating the legality of the Kosovo Albanian UDI – does not impose any obligations, "but is only advisory", and added that "it would be good if it could lead to solving the Kosovo question".

-- As we all would, but I think it's more like "cleaning up the mess you people made without proper planning." The main argument of self-determination not being bound by international law is far more dangerous than you might expect. Don’t think the ICJ is going to rule completely in favor of Pristina because 15 minutes later, they’ll have to rule in favor of Banja Luka.

“Belgrade asked the court to give an opinion on the question and I believe that it should respect the decision and act in accordance with it, whether positive or negative. On the other hand, Priština did not want it and was against sending the case to the International Court of Justice, therefore Kosovo already has more right to reject its decision than Belgrade,” said Serwer.

-- Ok, this is where downloading too much illegal software generates an Internal Serwer Error. So Pristina didn't want to play along because you told them to (we all remember Washington's pathetic attempt at rallying "no" votes at the UN amounted to them, Albania, and a few states in Micronesia) and by that normative opinion, you reach the empirical conclusion that Pristina's veto is more valid Belgrade's? How does a parastate trump a sovereign state? Would you support the same thing if the ICJ ruled in favor of Abkhazia against Georgia?

He added that the "time has come for direct talks without mediators between Belgrade and Priština, based on equal footing".

-- Well then you just negated all the threatening talk you said above. Belgrade and Pristina in the absence of third party mediators is something we've all been wanting, because without the US coaching them from behind, Pristina is forced to make some heavy concessions for the sake of regional stability. I don't foresee Serbia reabsorbing Kosovo, but there will be some serious internal administrative partitioning.

Serwer said that northern Kosovo is "under Belgrade’s direct control" and that he "would not refer to it as parallel institutions, but Serb institutions",

-- Well at least the BIOS is still functioning, despite the Serwer error. Hopefully we can retrieve some data.

the U.S. analysts expressed his support for the plan of Pieter Feith "that would give Serbs in north Kosovo a high level of autonomy".

-- Oh no! Data corruption! ?Syntax Error (yeah I know, old school) So he acknowledges that the north is completely off Pristina's grid and always was, but he still supports these *independent* institutions to accept some type of *autonomy* under another flag. If that sales pitch didn't work for the Albanians, it ain't gonna work for the Serbs.

LOAD "*.*",8,1

Clooney

pre 14 godina

Mr. Serwer?
Kosovo is Serbia. If u take Nato out of the formula you have? Thank you. also Serbia will not need EU. It already befits from visa free travel, and free trade. Serbia is the energy hub of the balkans. Investment will come naturally because of Serbia location. Note: Serbs earned the right to this gold location edging East to West, and paid for it with blood. VIVA SERBIA

Ron

pre 14 godina

Mr. Serwer you are right and Serb officials know that , but they like to lie to its people.
(Kosova-USA, 3 March 2010 13:48)

Mr. Sewer also knows that 1244 is still valid. And Mr. Sewer also knows that Kosovo's UDI is illegal.

Kosovo will never enter EU unless there is a mutual agreed deal!

Patrik

pre 14 godina

I must have missed the news somewhere. When did the US become a member of the EU with the rights and power to set policy? And why does the US feel that Serbia must accept the ruling of the ICJ but Kosovo doesn't have to? Seems the US and Kosovo have absolutely no respect for the international court. From the US, I expect this, but Kosovo? Way to start out as a country seeking international recognition!!!

Jovan

pre 14 godina

while China is growing and growing, the European Union has to chose whether they want to be a player or a viewer.

I don´t thing they will sit back and let the US decide who will join the EU...

so,... to say it in other words:

nothing is obvious, luigi... =)

PRN

pre 14 godina

Dear Mr. Serwer,

Serbia made the decision in June 1999, but some muppets in Serbia still have problems understanding politics and its dirty face.

There is another solution, unless Serbia want to be brought under Kosovo sovergnty, where Thaci and Haradinaj fire the shoots and Mr. Salih Berisha become a King of Illyria.

Patrik

pre 14 godina

I must have missed the news somewhere. When did the US become a member of the EU with the rights and power to set policy? And why does the US feel that Serbia must accept the ruling of the ICJ but Kosovo doesn't have to? Seems the US and Kosovo have absolutely no respect for the international court. From the US, I expect this, but Kosovo? Way to start out as a country seeking international recognition!!!

Jovan

pre 14 godina

while China is growing and growing, the European Union has to chose whether they want to be a player or a viewer.

I don´t thing they will sit back and let the US decide who will join the EU...

so,... to say it in other words:

nothing is obvious, luigi... =)

PRN

pre 14 godina

Dear Mr. Serwer,

Serbia made the decision in June 1999, but some muppets in Serbia still have problems understanding politics and its dirty face.

There is another solution, unless Serbia want to be brought under Kosovo sovergnty, where Thaci and Haradinaj fire the shoots and Mr. Salih Berisha become a King of Illyria.

Ron

pre 14 godina

Mr. Serwer you are right and Serb officials know that , but they like to lie to its people.
(Kosova-USA, 3 March 2010 13:48)

Mr. Sewer also knows that 1244 is still valid. And Mr. Sewer also knows that Kosovo's UDI is illegal.

Kosovo will never enter EU unless there is a mutual agreed deal!

Clooney

pre 14 godina

Mr. Serwer?
Kosovo is Serbia. If u take Nato out of the formula you have? Thank you. also Serbia will not need EU. It already befits from visa free travel, and free trade. Serbia is the energy hub of the balkans. Investment will come naturally because of Serbia location. Note: Serbs earned the right to this gold location edging East to West, and paid for it with blood. VIVA SERBIA

Mike

pre 14 godina

Well it's been a while since we've had an Internal Serwer Error...

“Belgrade has the right not to recognize Kosovo and no one will force it to do so, but Serbia cannot expect to be an EU member-state and keep Kosovo – it’s one or the other,” Serwer told Voice of America.

-- Sorry Mr. Serwer, the Holbrook Doctrine is no longer valid. Much has changed in the last 10 years and the EU isn't interested in punishing what it sees as the lynchpin state to Balkan integration in the EU. Pristina’s irredentism doesn’t trump Belgrade’s importance.

However, he said that the "EU cannot tell Belgrade that, because there are five of the 27 EU member-states that do not recognize Kosovo independence, but I think that the stance of the majority will take over in the end.”

-- You have no evidence to support this. You base this on a wing and a prayer. If 5 states are blocking Kosovo from the EU, and they are blocking because of Serbia's position, AND the rest of the EU are increasingly coming to terms with needing some form of renegotiation over Kosovo's status, "majority rules" has no basis.

He went on to say that the decision of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) – that is deliberating the legality of the Kosovo Albanian UDI – does not impose any obligations, "but is only advisory", and added that "it would be good if it could lead to solving the Kosovo question".

-- As we all would, but I think it's more like "cleaning up the mess you people made without proper planning." The main argument of self-determination not being bound by international law is far more dangerous than you might expect. Don’t think the ICJ is going to rule completely in favor of Pristina because 15 minutes later, they’ll have to rule in favor of Banja Luka.

“Belgrade asked the court to give an opinion on the question and I believe that it should respect the decision and act in accordance with it, whether positive or negative. On the other hand, Priština did not want it and was against sending the case to the International Court of Justice, therefore Kosovo already has more right to reject its decision than Belgrade,” said Serwer.

-- Ok, this is where downloading too much illegal software generates an Internal Serwer Error. So Pristina didn't want to play along because you told them to (we all remember Washington's pathetic attempt at rallying "no" votes at the UN amounted to them, Albania, and a few states in Micronesia) and by that normative opinion, you reach the empirical conclusion that Pristina's veto is more valid Belgrade's? How does a parastate trump a sovereign state? Would you support the same thing if the ICJ ruled in favor of Abkhazia against Georgia?

He added that the "time has come for direct talks without mediators between Belgrade and Priština, based on equal footing".

-- Well then you just negated all the threatening talk you said above. Belgrade and Pristina in the absence of third party mediators is something we've all been wanting, because without the US coaching them from behind, Pristina is forced to make some heavy concessions for the sake of regional stability. I don't foresee Serbia reabsorbing Kosovo, but there will be some serious internal administrative partitioning.

Serwer said that northern Kosovo is "under Belgrade’s direct control" and that he "would not refer to it as parallel institutions, but Serb institutions",

-- Well at least the BIOS is still functioning, despite the Serwer error. Hopefully we can retrieve some data.

the U.S. analysts expressed his support for the plan of Pieter Feith "that would give Serbs in north Kosovo a high level of autonomy".

-- Oh no! Data corruption! ?Syntax Error (yeah I know, old school) So he acknowledges that the north is completely off Pristina's grid and always was, but he still supports these *independent* institutions to accept some type of *autonomy* under another flag. If that sales pitch didn't work for the Albanians, it ain't gonna work for the Serbs.

LOAD "*.*",8,1

Logic

pre 14 godina

@PRN

"...unless Serbia want to be brought under Kosovo sovergnty where Thaci and Haradinaj fire the schoots and Mr.Salih Berisha become a King of Illyria"

Well, yesterday, a doctor turned politician, set a diagnosis for an individual, prescribed a treatment and went even farther on setting a collective diagnosis on a very broad segment of population worldwide. Well,quiet ambitious for somebody who practised more politics than the trade he was educated for. Still, since you were the one admiring the "good" Doctor and asking his help in dealing with lunacy there you got the recipe on the spot: run to the nearest ambulance with your problem. Don't be afraid, won't hurt.

PS. King of Illyria? But isn't "Illyria" shoe-paste brand? What is the king's role in such a kingdom? Shoe shining?

Micheal Breathnach

pre 14 godina

'Vice-President of the U.S. Institute for Peace Daniel Serwer said that Serbia won’t join the EU unless it "de facto recognizes Kosovo".'

Who is this individual? It sounds to me that he is talking throught that which looks like his elbow.

He obviously hasn't a clue about Serbia or what happened in the province of Kosovo i Metohija.

Am I supposed to believe thet this U.S. Institute for Peace is an authority on peace?
I wonder how this 'U.S. Institute for Peace' regards the fact that the U.S. itself, has bombed 20 nations in Central & South America since 1945 and has practically been at war with some nation or other every year since then.

MB,Ireland

nikola

pre 14 godina

okay I'm Serbian and I can say that it is completely obvious that our admission into the EU will be conditional on accepting Kosovo's independence. Most people in Serbia know this but choose to ignore it. This doesn't mean I support Albanians. I think its dispicable what you guys have done, you have stolen another country's territory that has been theirs for centuries, you destroy Serbian churches, Serbs live in constant fear and live in isolated ghettos. You know your independence is illegal but choose to deny it anyway because you have the support of greater powers. In short your nation is a nation of puppets used by greater powers to achieve their interests. Instead of fixing things in your own country Albania you move to other countries and then steal their land. But in Serbia I believe we have to realize that Kosovo is lost. If we really wanted to keep Kosovo we would have elected Tomislav Nikolic who would have threatened to put Russian military bases in Southern Serbia near the border of Kosovo. We would have told Europe if you recognize Kosovo we will no longer seek EU membership. With a real threat of Russian influence the EU would have been scared shitless and would have listened to Serbian demands to keep Kosovo. Serbia's EU ambitions might have been delayed for a couple years but honestly I don't believe by that much. Even now in Europe their saying 2018 is the earliest realistic date. This is utter nonsense since Serbia is undoubtedly at the same level of development as Romania and Bulgaria with a lot less corruption than Bulgaria. Instead we elected this Western puppet Boris Tadic who although he may be well intentioned and want to keep Kosovo...nobody in the EU listens to him because he has no diplomatic power.

winston

pre 14 godina

Read the story on today's B92 - Jeremic Says No Kosovo for EU, Daniel. Can you talking heads give it a rest? Your opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one. Hopefully, the EU will be just a memory soon, what will you talk about then, Daniel?

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Kosovo will never enter EU unless there is a mutual agreed deal!
(Ron, 3 March 2010 15:00)

neither will Serbia
(UNE, 3 March 2010 16:40)
=====================

But Serbia is functioning very nicely even without being in the EU. Is Kosova?

Serbia can trade with any country in the world. Serbs can travel to any country in the world with their passports. Serbian president is welcomed as a president anywhere in the world. Can you say the same about "Kosova"?
As you can see, Serbia can function well and if she wants to can wait for as long as it takes.
How long before your masters run out of money and patience with you? How long before charity dries up and you have to trade your way out of your problems? By trade your way out, I mean how many countries are willing to trade with you directly and want the commodity you offer?

John

pre 14 godina

have fun with your bankrupt eu then!
(stari, 3 March 2010 18:29)

Speaking of bankruptcy, you heard of Greece and Spain? I wonder, how they will repay their debt. Money seems not to be at their disposal at this time....

Milan

pre 14 godina

Serwer said that northern Kosovo is "under Belgrade’s direct control" and that he "would not refer to it as parallel institutions, but Serb institutions"

So - is's first words of REALITY from US hypocrites. North - is still part of Serbia.

Daniel Serwer said that Serbia won’t join the EU unless it "de facto recognizes Kosovo".

Republic of Cyprus join EU without recognizing illegal turkish state in North Cyprus. So mr Serwer????

B92

pre 14 godina

Ataman,

We are aware of the power of "sudo" and did not leave it out. The system, however, objected to displaying the text, written in that format.

May we suggest that next time you work as root?


Regards,

B92

Ataman

pre 14 godina

I think, Mike a completely new set of kernel extensions needs to be written for the Dell if it wants to support Mac OS X Server properly.

The most faulty piece of software is the icj.kext on that server.

Here is the biggest bug:

“Belgrade asked the court to give an opinion on the question and I believe that it should respect the decision and act in accordance with it, whether positive or negative. On the other hand, Priština did not want it and was against sending the case to the International Court of Justice, therefore Kosovo already has more right to reject its decision than Belgrade,” said Serwer.

This is the way it probably (not) works, but is similar to a large degree.

Place of incident: Ibarska Magistrala. There is written on the sign: "80", you know, that white sign with red paint around it, in the middle the number "80", black on white.

Me: inside my car, driving towards that Kosova Republic. The odometer shows "80". My car is U.S. specification car, so it's 80 mph.

Than there is a MUP guy with shock looking at me next to a white-blue Yugo with a laser on a tripod.

This probably smells like a ticket.

Or not.

What I say to MUP: you say I am going 80 mph in 80 km/h zone. But I did not ask you with your goddamn laser and Yugo to sit on the road and measure my speed. That was your idea. What you say, I don't care. Good-bye!

Maybe not the smartest way to talk out of the ticket...

Better verify that KEXT...

$sudo kextload /tmp/icj.kext

Does not load? Verify it:

$sudo kextutil /tmp/icj.kext

But if panic happens, better use proper hardware with the server, don't rely on Dell and pirated system. And in all cases: if necessary hardware resources are missing, the driver will simply panic and the server shut down.

sj

pre 14 godina

Another one of these Pennsylvania Avenue “Think Tanks” making bold statements where no one dare to go.

Gee! I wish I had five cents for every time one of these government-funded prognosticators come out with their idiotic statements, I would be wealthy beyond belief. The U.S. Institute for Peace sounds like something out of Orwell’s 1984. I have a question for this Vice El Presidente, what happened to the weapons sale to Taiwan? Did we get stuck somewhere? Hmmmmmmmmm? Or even better how is the US going in Afghanistan or Iraq???????

Believe me if things were going so well with Kosovo there would be no need for the Institute to raise its ugly head.

Skiff

pre 14 godina

Serbia should choose reconciliation, forgiveness, love and peace!

You want all those, then go back to the Carpathian mountains where all the south slavs belong, only then will there be a lasting peace in the Ballkans

milan

pre 14 godina

Serbia only has to chose one path and that path is guarded not by man built walls but rather by eternal principals and truths.

Serbia should choose reconciliation, forgiveness, love and peace!

and for the wrongs done by us towards others we should ask forgiveness. These are the only seeds which once planted will bear the rich fruit all men and woman of good truly strive for.

We dont need superstates like the EU, super economic blocks, corpoprate domination, military domination-------we need each other.

peace is every step
the shining red sun is my heart
each flower smiles with me
how green, how fresh all that grows
how cool the wind blows
peace is every step
it turns the endless path to joy

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Darn, B92 - you left the "sudo" out of my commands... "kextutil" or "kextload" won't work without "sudo", even on Dell. :-)

You need supervisor rights to execute either command and with this Kosovo story there are no rights and all involved supervisors of Dell are probably... (oh, well, nevermind). :-(

AdamNYC

pre 14 godina

@ ron who says, "Kosovo will never enter EU unless there is a mutual agreed deal! "

serbia is irrelevant in that regards... eventually the remaining EU holdouts will not gain any political capital by perpetrating their so-called "principled" stance...especially after ICJ returns an opinion.

It is inevitable... serbia is and will continue to be irrelevant.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

May we suggest that next time you work as root?


Regards,

B92
(B92, 4 March 2010 10:23)

Normally the root access is disabled by default.
But maybe Dell can do more for us - his supervisors are the root (cause). :-O

PRN

pre 14 godina

Dear Mr. Serwer,

Serbia made the decision in June 1999, but some muppets in Serbia still have problems understanding politics and its dirty face.

There is another solution, unless Serbia want to be brought under Kosovo sovergnty, where Thaci and Haradinaj fire the shoots and Mr. Salih Berisha become a King of Illyria.

Ron

pre 14 godina

Mr. Serwer you are right and Serb officials know that , but they like to lie to its people.
(Kosova-USA, 3 March 2010 13:48)

Mr. Sewer also knows that 1244 is still valid. And Mr. Sewer also knows that Kosovo's UDI is illegal.

Kosovo will never enter EU unless there is a mutual agreed deal!

Patrik

pre 14 godina

I must have missed the news somewhere. When did the US become a member of the EU with the rights and power to set policy? And why does the US feel that Serbia must accept the ruling of the ICJ but Kosovo doesn't have to? Seems the US and Kosovo have absolutely no respect for the international court. From the US, I expect this, but Kosovo? Way to start out as a country seeking international recognition!!!

Jovan

pre 14 godina

while China is growing and growing, the European Union has to chose whether they want to be a player or a viewer.

I don´t thing they will sit back and let the US decide who will join the EU...

so,... to say it in other words:

nothing is obvious, luigi... =)

Clooney

pre 14 godina

Mr. Serwer?
Kosovo is Serbia. If u take Nato out of the formula you have? Thank you. also Serbia will not need EU. It already befits from visa free travel, and free trade. Serbia is the energy hub of the balkans. Investment will come naturally because of Serbia location. Note: Serbs earned the right to this gold location edging East to West, and paid for it with blood. VIVA SERBIA

Mike

pre 14 godina

Well it's been a while since we've had an Internal Serwer Error...

“Belgrade has the right not to recognize Kosovo and no one will force it to do so, but Serbia cannot expect to be an EU member-state and keep Kosovo – it’s one or the other,” Serwer told Voice of America.

-- Sorry Mr. Serwer, the Holbrook Doctrine is no longer valid. Much has changed in the last 10 years and the EU isn't interested in punishing what it sees as the lynchpin state to Balkan integration in the EU. Pristina’s irredentism doesn’t trump Belgrade’s importance.

However, he said that the "EU cannot tell Belgrade that, because there are five of the 27 EU member-states that do not recognize Kosovo independence, but I think that the stance of the majority will take over in the end.”

-- You have no evidence to support this. You base this on a wing and a prayer. If 5 states are blocking Kosovo from the EU, and they are blocking because of Serbia's position, AND the rest of the EU are increasingly coming to terms with needing some form of renegotiation over Kosovo's status, "majority rules" has no basis.

He went on to say that the decision of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) – that is deliberating the legality of the Kosovo Albanian UDI – does not impose any obligations, "but is only advisory", and added that "it would be good if it could lead to solving the Kosovo question".

-- As we all would, but I think it's more like "cleaning up the mess you people made without proper planning." The main argument of self-determination not being bound by international law is far more dangerous than you might expect. Don’t think the ICJ is going to rule completely in favor of Pristina because 15 minutes later, they’ll have to rule in favor of Banja Luka.

“Belgrade asked the court to give an opinion on the question and I believe that it should respect the decision and act in accordance with it, whether positive or negative. On the other hand, Priština did not want it and was against sending the case to the International Court of Justice, therefore Kosovo already has more right to reject its decision than Belgrade,” said Serwer.

-- Ok, this is where downloading too much illegal software generates an Internal Serwer Error. So Pristina didn't want to play along because you told them to (we all remember Washington's pathetic attempt at rallying "no" votes at the UN amounted to them, Albania, and a few states in Micronesia) and by that normative opinion, you reach the empirical conclusion that Pristina's veto is more valid Belgrade's? How does a parastate trump a sovereign state? Would you support the same thing if the ICJ ruled in favor of Abkhazia against Georgia?

He added that the "time has come for direct talks without mediators between Belgrade and Priština, based on equal footing".

-- Well then you just negated all the threatening talk you said above. Belgrade and Pristina in the absence of third party mediators is something we've all been wanting, because without the US coaching them from behind, Pristina is forced to make some heavy concessions for the sake of regional stability. I don't foresee Serbia reabsorbing Kosovo, but there will be some serious internal administrative partitioning.

Serwer said that northern Kosovo is "under Belgrade’s direct control" and that he "would not refer to it as parallel institutions, but Serb institutions",

-- Well at least the BIOS is still functioning, despite the Serwer error. Hopefully we can retrieve some data.

the U.S. analysts expressed his support for the plan of Pieter Feith "that would give Serbs in north Kosovo a high level of autonomy".

-- Oh no! Data corruption! ?Syntax Error (yeah I know, old school) So he acknowledges that the north is completely off Pristina's grid and always was, but he still supports these *independent* institutions to accept some type of *autonomy* under another flag. If that sales pitch didn't work for the Albanians, it ain't gonna work for the Serbs.

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nikola

pre 14 godina

okay I'm Serbian and I can say that it is completely obvious that our admission into the EU will be conditional on accepting Kosovo's independence. Most people in Serbia know this but choose to ignore it. This doesn't mean I support Albanians. I think its dispicable what you guys have done, you have stolen another country's territory that has been theirs for centuries, you destroy Serbian churches, Serbs live in constant fear and live in isolated ghettos. You know your independence is illegal but choose to deny it anyway because you have the support of greater powers. In short your nation is a nation of puppets used by greater powers to achieve their interests. Instead of fixing things in your own country Albania you move to other countries and then steal their land. But in Serbia I believe we have to realize that Kosovo is lost. If we really wanted to keep Kosovo we would have elected Tomislav Nikolic who would have threatened to put Russian military bases in Southern Serbia near the border of Kosovo. We would have told Europe if you recognize Kosovo we will no longer seek EU membership. With a real threat of Russian influence the EU would have been scared shitless and would have listened to Serbian demands to keep Kosovo. Serbia's EU ambitions might have been delayed for a couple years but honestly I don't believe by that much. Even now in Europe their saying 2018 is the earliest realistic date. This is utter nonsense since Serbia is undoubtedly at the same level of development as Romania and Bulgaria with a lot less corruption than Bulgaria. Instead we elected this Western puppet Boris Tadic who although he may be well intentioned and want to keep Kosovo...nobody in the EU listens to him because he has no diplomatic power.

Logic

pre 14 godina

@PRN

"...unless Serbia want to be brought under Kosovo sovergnty where Thaci and Haradinaj fire the schoots and Mr.Salih Berisha become a King of Illyria"

Well, yesterday, a doctor turned politician, set a diagnosis for an individual, prescribed a treatment and went even farther on setting a collective diagnosis on a very broad segment of population worldwide. Well,quiet ambitious for somebody who practised more politics than the trade he was educated for. Still, since you were the one admiring the "good" Doctor and asking his help in dealing with lunacy there you got the recipe on the spot: run to the nearest ambulance with your problem. Don't be afraid, won't hurt.

PS. King of Illyria? But isn't "Illyria" shoe-paste brand? What is the king's role in such a kingdom? Shoe shining?

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Kosovo will never enter EU unless there is a mutual agreed deal!
(Ron, 3 March 2010 15:00)

neither will Serbia
(UNE, 3 March 2010 16:40)
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But Serbia is functioning very nicely even without being in the EU. Is Kosova?

Serbia can trade with any country in the world. Serbs can travel to any country in the world with their passports. Serbian president is welcomed as a president anywhere in the world. Can you say the same about "Kosova"?
As you can see, Serbia can function well and if she wants to can wait for as long as it takes.
How long before your masters run out of money and patience with you? How long before charity dries up and you have to trade your way out of your problems? By trade your way out, I mean how many countries are willing to trade with you directly and want the commodity you offer?

Micheal Breathnach

pre 14 godina

'Vice-President of the U.S. Institute for Peace Daniel Serwer said that Serbia won’t join the EU unless it "de facto recognizes Kosovo".'

Who is this individual? It sounds to me that he is talking throught that which looks like his elbow.

He obviously hasn't a clue about Serbia or what happened in the province of Kosovo i Metohija.

Am I supposed to believe thet this U.S. Institute for Peace is an authority on peace?
I wonder how this 'U.S. Institute for Peace' regards the fact that the U.S. itself, has bombed 20 nations in Central & South America since 1945 and has practically been at war with some nation or other every year since then.

MB,Ireland

winston

pre 14 godina

Read the story on today's B92 - Jeremic Says No Kosovo for EU, Daniel. Can you talking heads give it a rest? Your opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one. Hopefully, the EU will be just a memory soon, what will you talk about then, Daniel?

Milan

pre 14 godina

Serwer said that northern Kosovo is "under Belgrade’s direct control" and that he "would not refer to it as parallel institutions, but Serb institutions"

So - is's first words of REALITY from US hypocrites. North - is still part of Serbia.

Daniel Serwer said that Serbia won’t join the EU unless it "de facto recognizes Kosovo".

Republic of Cyprus join EU without recognizing illegal turkish state in North Cyprus. So mr Serwer????

milan

pre 14 godina

Serbia only has to chose one path and that path is guarded not by man built walls but rather by eternal principals and truths.

Serbia should choose reconciliation, forgiveness, love and peace!

and for the wrongs done by us towards others we should ask forgiveness. These are the only seeds which once planted will bear the rich fruit all men and woman of good truly strive for.

We dont need superstates like the EU, super economic blocks, corpoprate domination, military domination-------we need each other.

peace is every step
the shining red sun is my heart
each flower smiles with me
how green, how fresh all that grows
how cool the wind blows
peace is every step
it turns the endless path to joy

Ataman

pre 14 godina

I think, Mike a completely new set of kernel extensions needs to be written for the Dell if it wants to support Mac OS X Server properly.

The most faulty piece of software is the icj.kext on that server.

Here is the biggest bug:

“Belgrade asked the court to give an opinion on the question and I believe that it should respect the decision and act in accordance with it, whether positive or negative. On the other hand, Priština did not want it and was against sending the case to the International Court of Justice, therefore Kosovo already has more right to reject its decision than Belgrade,” said Serwer.

This is the way it probably (not) works, but is similar to a large degree.

Place of incident: Ibarska Magistrala. There is written on the sign: "80", you know, that white sign with red paint around it, in the middle the number "80", black on white.

Me: inside my car, driving towards that Kosova Republic. The odometer shows "80". My car is U.S. specification car, so it's 80 mph.

Than there is a MUP guy with shock looking at me next to a white-blue Yugo with a laser on a tripod.

This probably smells like a ticket.

Or not.

What I say to MUP: you say I am going 80 mph in 80 km/h zone. But I did not ask you with your goddamn laser and Yugo to sit on the road and measure my speed. That was your idea. What you say, I don't care. Good-bye!

Maybe not the smartest way to talk out of the ticket...

Better verify that KEXT...

$sudo kextload /tmp/icj.kext

Does not load? Verify it:

$sudo kextutil /tmp/icj.kext

But if panic happens, better use proper hardware with the server, don't rely on Dell and pirated system. And in all cases: if necessary hardware resources are missing, the driver will simply panic and the server shut down.

John

pre 14 godina

have fun with your bankrupt eu then!
(stari, 3 March 2010 18:29)

Speaking of bankruptcy, you heard of Greece and Spain? I wonder, how they will repay their debt. Money seems not to be at their disposal at this time....

Skiff

pre 14 godina

Serbia should choose reconciliation, forgiveness, love and peace!

You want all those, then go back to the Carpathian mountains where all the south slavs belong, only then will there be a lasting peace in the Ballkans

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Darn, B92 - you left the "sudo" out of my commands... "kextutil" or "kextload" won't work without "sudo", even on Dell. :-)

You need supervisor rights to execute either command and with this Kosovo story there are no rights and all involved supervisors of Dell are probably... (oh, well, nevermind). :-(

AdamNYC

pre 14 godina

@ ron who says, "Kosovo will never enter EU unless there is a mutual agreed deal! "

serbia is irrelevant in that regards... eventually the remaining EU holdouts will not gain any political capital by perpetrating their so-called "principled" stance...especially after ICJ returns an opinion.

It is inevitable... serbia is and will continue to be irrelevant.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

May we suggest that next time you work as root?


Regards,

B92
(B92, 4 March 2010 10:23)

Normally the root access is disabled by default.
But maybe Dell can do more for us - his supervisors are the root (cause). :-O

sj

pre 14 godina

Another one of these Pennsylvania Avenue “Think Tanks” making bold statements where no one dare to go.

Gee! I wish I had five cents for every time one of these government-funded prognosticators come out with their idiotic statements, I would be wealthy beyond belief. The U.S. Institute for Peace sounds like something out of Orwell’s 1984. I have a question for this Vice El Presidente, what happened to the weapons sale to Taiwan? Did we get stuck somewhere? Hmmmmmmmmm? Or even better how is the US going in Afghanistan or Iraq???????

Believe me if things were going so well with Kosovo there would be no need for the Institute to raise its ugly head.

B92

pre 14 godina

Ataman,

We are aware of the power of "sudo" and did not leave it out. The system, however, objected to displaying the text, written in that format.

May we suggest that next time you work as root?


Regards,

B92