“Kosovo problem on road to EU”

At the same time, many mistakes have been made in the solving of this question and now we must find a solution for at least partially fixing it,” he said.

Does that mean new negotiations!

"De Michelis said that Serbia will not enter the EU in 2014, but that it would not take too much longer."

Will EU exist in 2014??

And because of your selfish interests, Mr. foreign minister, Italy's collaboration with the US, and other EU nations, as an accomplice in the destructive actions in the Balkans, is what created the problem for Serbia in the first place. Now you have thrown your failures in Serbia's lap. I have two words for the EU/US (including Italy), but I am sure B92 will not post them.

Well, De Michelis was Italian FM between 1989 and 1992 and after the end of his political career was consultant for Italian enterprises operating in the Balkan area. So, he isn't exactly mr Nobody. When he says "Kosovo indipendence is irreversible but we made mistakes that we have to fix it", in my opinion, he say that more and more influential people is thinking to assure northern Kosovo to Serbia in exchange of a more or less tacit recognition of Kosovo indipendence.

It's very simple. If Serbia is forced to recognize Kosovo in exchange for EU membership, then the answer is no. I have no doubt Tadic and parts of his party would be willing to do that, but the Serbian people wont.

Besides, Zmaj is defiantly right. There are chances that by the time Serbia is next in line to join the EU, there will not be an EU to join.

“Kosovo is a very complicated problem. It is an irreversible situation. Serbia will have to recognize the existence of Kosovo one day."

The messege is clear...for those whom want to listen/read.

"WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS".
Kosovo-USA

It means Serbia will not join the European union for the price of Kosovo!
Poor albanians! Your only way to get recognition is by depending on Serbia to recognize you. Is that independence?

So the they want Serbia in the eu for their own selfish reasons- as if this is a revelation!! The eu will want you in so they can control you, if you are out of the EU they don't know what will happen eventually with Russia/ China and other friends of Serbia. You'll be a thorn in their side. These are the same people who bombed you- if I were you I'd tell them to stuff their EU, it will soon be obsolete anyway.

“Kosovo is a very complicated problem. It is an irreversible situation. Serbia will have to recognize the existence of Kosovo one day."

The messege is clear...for those whom want to listen/read.
(EA, 27 February 2010 18:58)
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Only according to the minority of the world. What else would you expect desperate people to say? They are trying to scare Serbia into recognsing Kosovo. Most of the world says opposite so they can keep on yapping all they like as there is nothing they can do.

Poor albanians! Your only way to get recognition is by depending on Serbia to recognize you. Is that independence?
(Mikael C-
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No it is NOT, let the games continue :)

One most important thing is not being reported here is that:" French FM said that Serbia has to solve all problems with its immediate neighbors before it can join EU. WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS".

Bon giorno Giorgio!
No, De Michellis is not Mr. Nobody at all. Even if he were, he would be entitled to express his opinion whenever given an opportunity, which in turn doesn't mean the acceptance of his views. His statement about "finding a solution for at least partially fixing" mistakes made by people who too were not "NOBODIES" at all, made me laugh. It's like situation when a surgeon by mistake chops off first a good leg, then the bad one, leaving the lucky patient without both legs, but with possibility of some "at least partial fixing".
As for his other remark - Serbia having to recognize "Kosova" existence "one day" that might fit perfectly in the proverbial meaning of Italian promise "DOMANI". Equivalent of Serbian "Malo sutra", if you like.

@KosovoUSA

I don't get the point of what your saying. Yes we know what that means. But do you really think Serbia will give up Kosovo for the EU?

Will the EU even be around by the time Serbia has to make that choice?

If things keep going like they are now, not likely.

EU or Kosovo is not a difficult choice. We will always take our sovereignty over membership, the ball is in our court.

Poor albanians! Your only way to get recognition is by depending on Serbia to recognize you. Is that independence?
(Mikael C, 28 February 2010 00:32)

No it is not at the level we would want it to be. But dont forget that 10 years ago we didn't even have atonomy, and Serbia was very sure that it would always rule Kosovo.

Where are you now? I think K-Alb have advanced a lot more in their goals than you have.

Seems like you are in a self-denyal here. You alsways under-estimated the Albanian factor and look where you are now....

Who laughs last, laughs best.

De Michelis said that Serbia will not enter the EU in 4014, but that it would not take too much longer."

I agree with Giorgio...Many people here thinks as our EX Foreign and Discoteque minister ..The Famous Dindic proposal was the preferred choice here in Italy but we all know what happened...

No it is not at the level we would want it to be. But dont forget that 10 years ago we didn't even have atonomy, and Serbia was very sure that it would always rule Kosovo.

Where are you now? I think K-Alb have advanced a lot more in their goals than you have.
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Are you implying the Albanians rule over Kosovo now? well your wrong, Kosovo is ruled by the UN/international community. And if you concider this prison camp of yours to be an advancement in goals, then I am truly sorry for you :) good day

I'd like to ask the Serbian members why they believe that the EU will dissintegrate? Particularly if you bring up the argument that Russian and China are presumably rising powers, then the most logical move would be for EU and US to become further more consolidated. To me it is sad that the Serb people get dragged by some political class down this path of thought. The mighty powers are very careful in balancing power rather than polirizing. It is the small countries like ours, caught in the middle who falsely believe they can make a difference. Serbia like the rest of the Balkan countries has a small country mentality with the delusion that they can make a big difference.
If you don't believe in EU, why did the Serb people vote twice for a political class which claims to embrace its EU future? You can't have it both ways!

"De Michelis said that Serbia will not enter the EU in 2014, but that it would not take too much longer."

Will EU exist in 2014??

At the same time, many mistakes have been made in the solving of this question and now we must find a solution for at least partially fixing it,” he said.

Does that mean new negotiations!

Well, De Michelis was Italian FM between 1989 and 1992 and after the end of his political career was consultant for Italian enterprises operating in the Balkan area. So, he isn't exactly mr Nobody. When he says "Kosovo indipendence is irreversible but we made mistakes that we have to fix it", in my opinion, he say that more and more influential people is thinking to assure northern Kosovo to Serbia in exchange of a more or less tacit recognition of Kosovo indipendence.

And because of your selfish interests, Mr. foreign minister, Italy's collaboration with the US, and other EU nations, as an accomplice in the destructive actions in the Balkans, is what created the problem for Serbia in the first place. Now you have thrown your failures in Serbia's lap. I have two words for the EU/US (including Italy), but I am sure B92 will not post them.

One most important thing is not being reported here is that:" French FM said that Serbia has to solve all problems with its immediate neighbors before it can join EU. WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS".

“Kosovo is a very complicated problem. It is an irreversible situation. Serbia will have to recognize the existence of Kosovo one day."

The messege is clear...for those whom want to listen/read.

De Michelis said that Serbia will not enter the EU in 4014, but that it would not take too much longer."

Bon giorno Giorgio!
No, De Michellis is not Mr. Nobody at all. Even if he were, he would be entitled to express his opinion whenever given an opportunity, which in turn doesn't mean the acceptance of his views. His statement about "finding a solution for at least partially fixing" mistakes made by people who too were not "NOBODIES" at all, made me laugh. It's like situation when a surgeon by mistake chops off first a good leg, then the bad one, leaving the lucky patient without both legs, but with possibility of some "at least partial fixing".
As for his other remark - Serbia having to recognize "Kosova" existence "one day" that might fit perfectly in the proverbial meaning of Italian promise "DOMANI". Equivalent of Serbian "Malo sutra", if you like.

It's very simple. If Serbia is forced to recognize Kosovo in exchange for EU membership, then the answer is no. I have no doubt Tadic and parts of his party would be willing to do that, but the Serbian people wont.

Besides, Zmaj is defiantly right. There are chances that by the time Serbia is next in line to join the EU, there will not be an EU to join.

Poor albanians! Your only way to get recognition is by depending on Serbia to recognize you. Is that independence?
(Mikael C, 28 February 2010 00:32)

No it is not at the level we would want it to be. But dont forget that 10 years ago we didn't even have atonomy, and Serbia was very sure that it would always rule Kosovo.

Where are you now? I think K-Alb have advanced a lot more in their goals than you have.

Seems like you are in a self-denyal here. You alsways under-estimated the Albanian factor and look where you are now....

Who laughs last, laughs best.

"WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS".
Kosovo-USA

It means Serbia will not join the European union for the price of Kosovo!
Poor albanians! Your only way to get recognition is by depending on Serbia to recognize you. Is that independence?

I agree with Giorgio...Many people here thinks as our EX Foreign and Discoteque minister ..The Famous Dindic proposal was the preferred choice here in Italy but we all know what happened...

@KosovoUSA

I don't get the point of what your saying. Yes we know what that means. But do you really think Serbia will give up Kosovo for the EU?

Will the EU even be around by the time Serbia has to make that choice?

If things keep going like they are now, not likely.

EU or Kosovo is not a difficult choice. We will always take our sovereignty over membership, the ball is in our court.

So the they want Serbia in the eu for their own selfish reasons- as if this is a revelation!! The eu will want you in so they can control you, if you are out of the EU they don't know what will happen eventually with Russia/ China and other friends of Serbia. You'll be a thorn in their side. These are the same people who bombed you- if I were you I'd tell them to stuff their EU, it will soon be obsolete anyway.

“Kosovo is a very complicated problem. It is an irreversible situation. Serbia will have to recognize the existence of Kosovo one day."

The messege is clear...for those whom want to listen/read.
(EA, 27 February 2010 18:58)
======================

Only according to the minority of the world. What else would you expect desperate people to say? They are trying to scare Serbia into recognsing Kosovo. Most of the world says opposite so they can keep on yapping all they like as there is nothing they can do.

Poor albanians! Your only way to get recognition is by depending on Serbia to recognize you. Is that independence?
(Mikael C-
---
No it is NOT, let the games continue :)

No it is not at the level we would want it to be. But dont forget that 10 years ago we didn't even have atonomy, and Serbia was very sure that it would always rule Kosovo.

Where are you now? I think K-Alb have advanced a lot more in their goals than you have.
-
Are you implying the Albanians rule over Kosovo now? well your wrong, Kosovo is ruled by the UN/international community. And if you concider this prison camp of yours to be an advancement in goals, then I am truly sorry for you :) good day

I'd like to ask the Serbian members why they believe that the EU will dissintegrate? Particularly if you bring up the argument that Russian and China are presumably rising powers, then the most logical move would be for EU and US to become further more consolidated. To me it is sad that the Serb people get dragged by some political class down this path of thought. The mighty powers are very careful in balancing power rather than polirizing. It is the small countries like ours, caught in the middle who falsely believe they can make a difference. Serbia like the rest of the Balkan countries has a small country mentality with the delusion that they can make a big difference.
If you don't believe in EU, why did the Serb people vote twice for a political class which claims to embrace its EU future? You can't have it both ways!