“Status quo extended for six months”

“Status quo extended for six months”
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Agreed, the Feith is an obstacle to peace and prosperity in the region. He represents those blind Albanian nationalists with "Greater Albania" in mind.

Oliver Ivanovic wants to tell EU how to run its affairs. lol

"Ivanović said that he “could not understand the decision of the European Union to extend the term of office of its special representative in Kosovo Pieter Feith”. "

Because you live in your own self-created world which hits from time to time the (for you uncomfortable) reality.

Call it what you want, Ivanovic, 27 states agreed on something/someone you don't like. And this is just the beginning for you EU accession. So either tell the people the truth (I doubt that you and the rest of the Serbian political class has the spine for that), or you give up your EU accession.

"Because you live in your own self-created world which hits from time to time the (for you uncomfortable) reality." (John)

-- Both Serbs and Albanians live in their own self-created world. Don't blame Mitrovica for wanting to remain with Belgrade. When was the last time anyone from Pristina visited Mitrovica or Gracanica? When was the last time any of these people made honest gestures of integration without resorting to benign signals of warmongering because they have no other recourse outside their own limited way of thinking? Better yet, what has Pristina offered Mitrovica that they couldn't get from Belgrade? Reality bites both ways my friend.

He represents those blind Albanian nationalists with "Greater Albania" in mind.
(Zoran, 26 February 2010 11:00)

Yes, but there is an interesting detail. What position means more authority: to be the head of ICO or to be the EU's special representative?

I think, the special representative has more authority, ICO has no mandate in Kosovo officially.
If Peter Feith is that important: why not keep him as "EU's special representative" as long as possible and send his secretary (or whomever) to head the ICO?

Formally that would not mean any conflict of interest and legally the case is closed.
No, instead EU keeps legally challenging (to say the least) situation.

I think the answer is simply that neither position is looked upon as important.
Somewhat like if you would get both "Chief Camel Trade Supervisor of Serbia" and "Undersecretary of Camel rights" position and sent with a 1000 Euro / month salary from Belgrade to Ulan-Bator.

Yes, it's a sweet deal (for you) and 1000 Euro/month is a helluva money in Ulan Bator. But this is probably not more, than an other name of luxury in exile, safely far away from Belgrade.
Now imagine, some Mongolian camel herders gather outside of Serbian embassy in Ulan Bator and protest about conflict of interest in your job. The reaction will be probably "what the heck???" - because the government in Belgrade is concerned only as much about Mongolian camels as Bruxelles about Kosovo, be it in or outside of Serbia. The agenda is not what they say, it is probably much more cynical.

Hello from Canada Ataman!!

I just wanted to let you know that, camels are a brand of cigarettes in Canada.

By the way, if you want to know how to start a fire with camel dung, then please refer to the following link

http://www.ehow.com/how_2226711_fuel-fire-camel-dung.html

"Yes, reality truly bites both ways, so let's have a compromise then.
Presevo Valley for North Mitrovica, right?" (miri)

-- Hm, how about this instead: cantonize Kosovo municipality by municipality. Each group handles its own affairs. Serb areas look to Belgrade. Albanian areas, if they want, look to Tirana. Let's see how it goes. If it goes well, perhaps we can think of including Presevo and RS at some later point.

-- Hm, how about this instead: cantonize Kosovo municipality by municipality. Each group handles its own affairs. Serb areas look to Belgrade. Albanian areas, if they want, look to Tirana. Let's see how it goes. If it goes well, perhaps we can think of including Presevo and RS at some later point.
(Mike, 26 February 2010 23:56)

Thanks, you are saying more implicitly precisely what I am thinking.

What I am afraid most - as useful this solution looks like, the winners are clearly both Serbs and Albanians (not the "world powers"). Hence no one will promote it, unless we will get more honest politicians. Unfortunately "honest politician" itself is an oxymoron.

Won't happen in the foreseeable future precisely because it makes sense.

If GE wants to invest $2 billion in Kosovo, who do they talk to ? Who makes the decision
(Dritan, 27 February 2010 06:32)

I would not worry about GE or another corporation investing in Kosovo now because that will never happen, not unless the US guarantees the investment and they won’t. However, if Kosovo is separated into cantons Serbia can guarantee for Serb cantons and Albanian does the same for Albanian parts. Opps, that won’t work either, Albania could not underwrite a cup of coffee let alone a large investment.
So it’s back to square one.

Sorry Ataman, but Serbia does not have an embassy in Ulan Batur, but the one in Beijin,China takes care of business for both countries.
(Kosova-USA, 26 February 2010 18:56)

You are 100% correct. It was of course a virtual example. Neither Serbian embassy in Ulan Bator does exist, not the office of "Undersecretary of Camel rights" in Belgrade. I suspect tough, that the life cycle of Mongolian camels is more hot topic in the government buildings in Belgrade than the fate of Kosovars in Bruxelles. The story with Peter Feith seem to underscore it.

-----

I just wanted to let you know that, camels are a brand of cigarettes in Canada.

By the way, if you want to know how to start a fire with camel dung, then please refer to the following link

(Another Canadian Serb, 26 February 2010 17:15)

Tsk, tsk, be careful what you say. Walls have ears and bugs inside outlets...

1) "Mongolian Camel" could be topic without any interest in Belgrade.
But "Bulgarian Camel made in China and sold in Italy" is a very hot topic in Podgorica.

2) If we continue to talk that much, they from Podgorica may decide to start fire under our cars - and not with camel dung, but with SEMEX.

So watch out - and say one more prayer for the soul of Pukanic. :-(

-- Both Serbs and Albanians live in their own self-created world. Don't blame Mitrovica for wanting to remain with Belgrade. When was the last time anyone from Pristina visited Mitrovica or Gracanica? When was the last time any of these people made honest gestures of integration without resorting to benign signals of warmongering because they have no other recourse outside their own limited way of thinking? Better yet, what has Pristina offered Mitrovica that they couldn't get from Belgrade? Reality bites both ways my friend.
(Mike, 26 February 2010 16:26)

Yes, reality truly bites both ways, so let's have a compromise then.
Presevo Valley for North Mitrovica, right?

Now imagine, some Mongolian camel herders gather outside of Serbian embassy in Ulan Bator and protest about conflict of interest in your job. The reaction will be probably "what the heck???" - because the government in Belgrade is concerned only as much about Mongolian camels as Bruxelles about Kosovo, be it in or outside of Serbia. The agenda is not what they say, it is probably much more cynical.
(Ataman, 26 February 2010 15:44)

Sorry Ataman, but Serbia does not have an embassy in Ulan Batur, but the one in Beijin,China takes care of business for both countries.

Yes, reality truly bites both ways, so let's have a compromise then.
Presevo Valley for North Mitrovica, right?
(miri, 26 February 2010 20:12)

In some form it is TBD later. If I would be the Minister of Interior of Serbia I would at first ensure with little things that Albanians from Kosovo are not "left out".

At forst not much is needed. I would introduce on-spot temporary "Licna Karta" for anyone with Kosovo travel document crossing the admin line as well as temporary driver's license and plates.

All this to allow smooth flow of people without Serbs and Albanians going to Berane in Montenegro - just to buy the basically same thing to work around the known problem.

These things would be sold at reasonable price at the border - but they would be "temporary" and not valid outside of Serbia (to prevent some black market activity).

To organize it is not that easy because I am sure the criminals immediately will try to "generate" as many "Kosovars" from Kabul or Sri Lanka as possible and I am sure EU will immediately put pressure on BG and PR.

Here you go - finally a good and not useless job for EULEX to monitor that process. Good opportunity for BG and PR to shovel all responsibility about "almost-Albanians from Kabul" back to EU, let EULEX be involved.

IMO - good project, very much in line with interests on both sides, with 1244 and makes EULEX finally feel important.

And of course I would put EU in a difficult position. Because my approach to temporary documents would be tied to a condition that these documents and license plates would be recognized by KPS as their own. All that in the spirit of much-mentioned 1244.

Once it is going smoothly, would consider other steps. Serbian territory cannot be exchanged to Serbian territory - but the municipalities and who-report-to-whom can be well re-arranged.

-- Hm, how about this instead: cantonize Kosovo municipality by municipality. Each group handles its own affairs. Serb areas look to Belgrade. Albanian areas, if they want, look to Tirana. Let's see how it goes. If it goes well, perhaps we can think of including Presevo and RS at some later point.
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A Good idea, really? How is Bosnia working?

If GE wants to invest $2 billion in Kosovo, who do they talk to ? Who makes the decision

We have two agendas here Most EU coutries plus USA working for consolidation of Kosovo/a independece and its institution in the territory of Kosovo/a and the Serbian agenda to sabotage the Kosovo/a's institution and the independence from Serbia. That is clear I believe. The decision on Kosovo/a's recognition independence is made by most of the EU countries.

“Status quo extended for six months”
--
Agreed, the Feith is an obstacle to peace and prosperity in the region. He represents those blind Albanian nationalists with "Greater Albania" in mind.

Oliver Ivanovic wants to tell EU how to run its affairs. lol

"Ivanović said that he “could not understand the decision of the European Union to extend the term of office of its special representative in Kosovo Pieter Feith”. "

Because you live in your own self-created world which hits from time to time the (for you uncomfortable) reality.

Call it what you want, Ivanovic, 27 states agreed on something/someone you don't like. And this is just the beginning for you EU accession. So either tell the people the truth (I doubt that you and the rest of the Serbian political class has the spine for that), or you give up your EU accession.

-- Both Serbs and Albanians live in their own self-created world. Don't blame Mitrovica for wanting to remain with Belgrade. When was the last time anyone from Pristina visited Mitrovica or Gracanica? When was the last time any of these people made honest gestures of integration without resorting to benign signals of warmongering because they have no other recourse outside their own limited way of thinking? Better yet, what has Pristina offered Mitrovica that they couldn't get from Belgrade? Reality bites both ways my friend.
(Mike, 26 February 2010 16:26)

Yes, reality truly bites both ways, so let's have a compromise then.
Presevo Valley for North Mitrovica, right?

Now imagine, some Mongolian camel herders gather outside of Serbian embassy in Ulan Bator and protest about conflict of interest in your job. The reaction will be probably "what the heck???" - because the government in Belgrade is concerned only as much about Mongolian camels as Bruxelles about Kosovo, be it in or outside of Serbia. The agenda is not what they say, it is probably much more cynical.
(Ataman, 26 February 2010 15:44)

Sorry Ataman, but Serbia does not have an embassy in Ulan Batur, but the one in Beijin,China takes care of business for both countries.

We have two agendas here Most EU coutries plus USA working for consolidation of Kosovo/a independece and its institution in the territory of Kosovo/a and the Serbian agenda to sabotage the Kosovo/a's institution and the independence from Serbia. That is clear I believe. The decision on Kosovo/a's recognition independence is made by most of the EU countries.

"Because you live in your own self-created world which hits from time to time the (for you uncomfortable) reality." (John)

-- Both Serbs and Albanians live in their own self-created world. Don't blame Mitrovica for wanting to remain with Belgrade. When was the last time anyone from Pristina visited Mitrovica or Gracanica? When was the last time any of these people made honest gestures of integration without resorting to benign signals of warmongering because they have no other recourse outside their own limited way of thinking? Better yet, what has Pristina offered Mitrovica that they couldn't get from Belgrade? Reality bites both ways my friend.

Hello from Canada Ataman!!

I just wanted to let you know that, camels are a brand of cigarettes in Canada.

By the way, if you want to know how to start a fire with camel dung, then please refer to the following link

http://www.ehow.com/how_2226711_fuel-fire-camel-dung.html

-- Hm, how about this instead: cantonize Kosovo municipality by municipality. Each group handles its own affairs. Serb areas look to Belgrade. Albanian areas, if they want, look to Tirana. Let's see how it goes. If it goes well, perhaps we can think of including Presevo and RS at some later point.
----
A Good idea, really? How is Bosnia working?

If GE wants to invest $2 billion in Kosovo, who do they talk to ? Who makes the decision

He represents those blind Albanian nationalists with "Greater Albania" in mind.
(Zoran, 26 February 2010 11:00)

Yes, but there is an interesting detail. What position means more authority: to be the head of ICO or to be the EU's special representative?

I think, the special representative has more authority, ICO has no mandate in Kosovo officially.
If Peter Feith is that important: why not keep him as "EU's special representative" as long as possible and send his secretary (or whomever) to head the ICO?

Formally that would not mean any conflict of interest and legally the case is closed.
No, instead EU keeps legally challenging (to say the least) situation.

I think the answer is simply that neither position is looked upon as important.
Somewhat like if you would get both "Chief Camel Trade Supervisor of Serbia" and "Undersecretary of Camel rights" position and sent with a 1000 Euro / month salary from Belgrade to Ulan-Bator.

Yes, it's a sweet deal (for you) and 1000 Euro/month is a helluva money in Ulan Bator. But this is probably not more, than an other name of luxury in exile, safely far away from Belgrade.
Now imagine, some Mongolian camel herders gather outside of Serbian embassy in Ulan Bator and protest about conflict of interest in your job. The reaction will be probably "what the heck???" - because the government in Belgrade is concerned only as much about Mongolian camels as Bruxelles about Kosovo, be it in or outside of Serbia. The agenda is not what they say, it is probably much more cynical.

"Yes, reality truly bites both ways, so let's have a compromise then.
Presevo Valley for North Mitrovica, right?" (miri)

-- Hm, how about this instead: cantonize Kosovo municipality by municipality. Each group handles its own affairs. Serb areas look to Belgrade. Albanian areas, if they want, look to Tirana. Let's see how it goes. If it goes well, perhaps we can think of including Presevo and RS at some later point.

Sorry Ataman, but Serbia does not have an embassy in Ulan Batur, but the one in Beijin,China takes care of business for both countries.
(Kosova-USA, 26 February 2010 18:56)

You are 100% correct. It was of course a virtual example. Neither Serbian embassy in Ulan Bator does exist, not the office of "Undersecretary of Camel rights" in Belgrade. I suspect tough, that the life cycle of Mongolian camels is more hot topic in the government buildings in Belgrade than the fate of Kosovars in Bruxelles. The story with Peter Feith seem to underscore it.

-----

I just wanted to let you know that, camels are a brand of cigarettes in Canada.

By the way, if you want to know how to start a fire with camel dung, then please refer to the following link

(Another Canadian Serb, 26 February 2010 17:15)

Tsk, tsk, be careful what you say. Walls have ears and bugs inside outlets...

1) "Mongolian Camel" could be topic without any interest in Belgrade.
But "Bulgarian Camel made in China and sold in Italy" is a very hot topic in Podgorica.

2) If we continue to talk that much, they from Podgorica may decide to start fire under our cars - and not with camel dung, but with SEMEX.

So watch out - and say one more prayer for the soul of Pukanic. :-(

Yes, reality truly bites both ways, so let's have a compromise then.
Presevo Valley for North Mitrovica, right?
(miri, 26 February 2010 20:12)

In some form it is TBD later. If I would be the Minister of Interior of Serbia I would at first ensure with little things that Albanians from Kosovo are not "left out".

At forst not much is needed. I would introduce on-spot temporary "Licna Karta" for anyone with Kosovo travel document crossing the admin line as well as temporary driver's license and plates.

All this to allow smooth flow of people without Serbs and Albanians going to Berane in Montenegro - just to buy the basically same thing to work around the known problem.

These things would be sold at reasonable price at the border - but they would be "temporary" and not valid outside of Serbia (to prevent some black market activity).

To organize it is not that easy because I am sure the criminals immediately will try to "generate" as many "Kosovars" from Kabul or Sri Lanka as possible and I am sure EU will immediately put pressure on BG and PR.

Here you go - finally a good and not useless job for EULEX to monitor that process. Good opportunity for BG and PR to shovel all responsibility about "almost-Albanians from Kabul" back to EU, let EULEX be involved.

IMO - good project, very much in line with interests on both sides, with 1244 and makes EULEX finally feel important.

And of course I would put EU in a difficult position. Because my approach to temporary documents would be tied to a condition that these documents and license plates would be recognized by KPS as their own. All that in the spirit of much-mentioned 1244.

Once it is going smoothly, would consider other steps. Serbian territory cannot be exchanged to Serbian territory - but the municipalities and who-report-to-whom can be well re-arranged.

-- Hm, how about this instead: cantonize Kosovo municipality by municipality. Each group handles its own affairs. Serb areas look to Belgrade. Albanian areas, if they want, look to Tirana. Let's see how it goes. If it goes well, perhaps we can think of including Presevo and RS at some later point.
(Mike, 26 February 2010 23:56)

Thanks, you are saying more implicitly precisely what I am thinking.

What I am afraid most - as useful this solution looks like, the winners are clearly both Serbs and Albanians (not the "world powers"). Hence no one will promote it, unless we will get more honest politicians. Unfortunately "honest politician" itself is an oxymoron.

Won't happen in the foreseeable future precisely because it makes sense.

If GE wants to invest $2 billion in Kosovo, who do they talk to ? Who makes the decision
(Dritan, 27 February 2010 06:32)

I would not worry about GE or another corporation investing in Kosovo now because that will never happen, not unless the US guarantees the investment and they won’t. However, if Kosovo is separated into cantons Serbia can guarantee for Serb cantons and Albanian does the same for Albanian parts. Opps, that won’t work either, Albania could not underwrite a cup of coffee let alone a large investment.
So it’s back to square one.