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Friday, 26.02.2010.

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Drills “confirm KFOR preparedness”

KFOR units staged five military exercises throughout Kosovo between January 15 and 24, the NATO-led forces in the province said on Thursday.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Bob

pre 14 godina

Please stop using racist generalisations. When a group is acting as a group then generalisations are appropriate; however, when arguing with individuals phrases like 'you Serbs' or 'you Albanians' are wrong. Individual views vary. There are many within a population who do not conform the stereotypes you have in your mind.

There were murders and ethnic cleansers on all sides. However that does not make everybody a murder or an ethnic cleanser.

There are lots of good people who are drawn wrongly into these generalisations. The majority on both sides were not murders or ethnic cleansers.

The other issue is how much people are drawn into the bad agendas that have been set by bad politicians for their own motives. Often these agendas have superficial appeal, but the down side later becomes obvious. The whole of Germany was sucked in by Hitler for example because of the superficial appeal of his nationalism - but the price for the Germans was incredibly high.

There were many Albanians who did not want to force Serbs out of Kosovo but had to conform to the pressures put on them by nationalists. There was no way out for the individual because of the pressure from neighbours. Likewise, decent Serbs who hated the ethnic cleansing and the wrongs done by violent people but found it difficult to do anything about it.

The arguments in the postings are often on the basis of prejudiced views. I myself am prejudiced against the idea of Kosovo being removed from Serbia. I hope however that my generalisations are appropriate and do not mislabel good people who do not conform to the stereotypical views I might have.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

What is wrong with you and fellow serbs that always mention March 2004? How come you guys never talk about 1998/99 and I am not going to go back for 5-6 decades, just those two years.What happened in 2004, is just a drop of water in the middle of Ocean compare to 1998/99 what Serbs did to K-albanians.
(Kosova-USA, 26 February 2010 12:54)

I would extend the 1998/1999 period to 1989-2001 (including the civil war in FYROM). From SFRJ point of view it is not dissimilar to the other crimes done in the name of Communism. Maybe the Civil War in Russia of 1917-1920 or the American Civil War is a better analogue - sickening things were done by every ethnic or religious group in these countries, so did happen in SFRJ. Who was targeted by whom and when was decided only by military luck or intervention from abroad.

Looking at the more narrow timeframe: the initiator of the open conflict in 1998 was clearly KLA. I remember well, KLA was regarded even by Clinton administration as the "terrorist organization" for extended period of time. Than - partly because Milosevic response was regarded as "overreacting", partly for geopolitical consideration the stand changed almost overnight.

As much as I could I was monitoring the events from the safe distance of the Bay Area. I had an impression, the entire conflict was cleverly set up from USA and Milosevic just walked into a trap set up by purpose. Here I do not expect anyone to agree, that was (and is) merely my impression I had from the news and I was pretty much far away from events (thanks God!). This is not an excuse for Milosevic, he was a criminal as he was, don't get me wrong.

As for 2004: that was an ugly ethnic riot, where the last word was said by common criminals. What Serbian gang is missing here is a very trivial phrase said by Albanians, nothing more:

"yep, indeed, these of 2004 were lowlife and hopefully they can re-think their deeds while in jail". I do not see, where is the rocket science in that phrase.

Mike

pre 14 godina

I'm happy to hear that KFOR remains the sole (read as only capable) security force in Kosovo Province, yet I wonder what they are preparing for. Some of our more aggressive Dardanians here continue to think KFOR is Thaci's rubber hose, but it seems to me that KFOR is operating to prevent instability emanating from Serbs and from Albanians as well. I guess we should be happy a third party security force remains. Knowing the objectives stirring in Pristina, K Albanian officials seem more than happy in instigating another conflict.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 14 godina

Kosova-USA,
you are too funny, always blaming the Serbs for Albanian's misfortunes.

Serbia has done better for the Albanian diaspora, then Alabania itself.

Why don't you for once commend the humanity, hospitality and generosity given to Albanians by Serbs.

For there would many death starved Albanians without the help of Serbia.

One more thing, why do Albanians blame Serbs from the former Jugoslavia for a wrong doings?

Was not the former Jugoslavia comprised of Slovenians, Croations, Macedonians and so on...

You berate Serbs, but you commend Montenegrins, especially ethnic Montengrins such as, i don't know, maybe Milosevic and Karadzic.

What was Slovenia's and Croatia's contributions to Kosovo Albanians, other than acknowledging your illegal UDI. Did they really support the UDI, or did they really support the dismemberment of Serbia?

sj

pre 14 godina

It’s called Operation Jerking Albanian Chains. A so called Albanian Army in Kosovo, over US/EU dead bodies.
Look NATO/KFOR/EULEX, they can all drill for pancakes, oil, or gold if they like but nothing changes. It’s all smoke and mirrors for Albanians.
Sit and think for a moment; what is NATO going to do in Northern Kosovo? use violence or force? Remember Newton’s 3 law – they push we push just as hard.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Mikael C,
What is wrong with you and fellow serbs that always mention March 2004? How come you guys never talk about 1998/99 and I am not going to go back for 5-6 decades, just those two years.What happened in 2004, is just a drop of water in the middle of Ocean compare to 1998/99 what Serbs did to K-albanians.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"The drills “confirmed that they are ready to react to any situation which could pose a threat to security on the entire territory of Kosovo”, said a statement."

I guess they were not quick enough to react to prevent albanians and their attacks on Serbian cemetaries, churches and the beating of Serbs. We all witnessed how prepared KFOR was in 2004 when herds of poor and unemployed albanians destroyed our holy land. Or perhaps this is not a security threat? What seems to be a great security threat to NATO is that Serbs, in a peaceful way, are refusing to recongize the illegal UDI. In that case prepare for long lasting insubordination from Serbs and the Serbian nation.

Diana

pre 14 godina

Is this a threat to the Serbs in the North? If so they need to be very careful about alienating 2/3 of the world that have not recognised Kosovo. They will show themselves up for the bulies and liars that they are and I'm sure other countries will not stand by and watch.

PRN

pre 14 godina

We thank NATO that is continously confirming that KFOR preparedness is at HIGH LEVEL.

This in other words means that for at least some years to come NATO is going to do a dirty job (in the North) if necessary, thus sparing Albanian lives.

Anyways once Kosovo army get FINAL SHAPE end of next year or the beginning of teh 2012 the KFOR may begin to pack and leave. Anyway they are free to stay but we wont let them do any dirty work for us. Enough is enough.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"The drills “confirmed that they are ready to react to any situation which could pose a threat to security on the entire territory of Kosovo”, said a statement."

I guess they were not quick enough to react to prevent albanians and their attacks on Serbian cemetaries, churches and the beating of Serbs. We all witnessed how prepared KFOR was in 2004 when herds of poor and unemployed albanians destroyed our holy land. Or perhaps this is not a security threat? What seems to be a great security threat to NATO is that Serbs, in a peaceful way, are refusing to recongize the illegal UDI. In that case prepare for long lasting insubordination from Serbs and the Serbian nation.

Diana

pre 14 godina

Is this a threat to the Serbs in the North? If so they need to be very careful about alienating 2/3 of the world that have not recognised Kosovo. They will show themselves up for the bulies and liars that they are and I'm sure other countries will not stand by and watch.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Mikael C,
What is wrong with you and fellow serbs that always mention March 2004? How come you guys never talk about 1998/99 and I am not going to go back for 5-6 decades, just those two years.What happened in 2004, is just a drop of water in the middle of Ocean compare to 1998/99 what Serbs did to K-albanians.

sj

pre 14 godina

It’s called Operation Jerking Albanian Chains. A so called Albanian Army in Kosovo, over US/EU dead bodies.
Look NATO/KFOR/EULEX, they can all drill for pancakes, oil, or gold if they like but nothing changes. It’s all smoke and mirrors for Albanians.
Sit and think for a moment; what is NATO going to do in Northern Kosovo? use violence or force? Remember Newton’s 3 law – they push we push just as hard.

PRN

pre 14 godina

We thank NATO that is continously confirming that KFOR preparedness is at HIGH LEVEL.

This in other words means that for at least some years to come NATO is going to do a dirty job (in the North) if necessary, thus sparing Albanian lives.

Anyways once Kosovo army get FINAL SHAPE end of next year or the beginning of teh 2012 the KFOR may begin to pack and leave. Anyway they are free to stay but we wont let them do any dirty work for us. Enough is enough.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 14 godina

Kosova-USA,
you are too funny, always blaming the Serbs for Albanian's misfortunes.

Serbia has done better for the Albanian diaspora, then Alabania itself.

Why don't you for once commend the humanity, hospitality and generosity given to Albanians by Serbs.

For there would many death starved Albanians without the help of Serbia.

One more thing, why do Albanians blame Serbs from the former Jugoslavia for a wrong doings?

Was not the former Jugoslavia comprised of Slovenians, Croations, Macedonians and so on...

You berate Serbs, but you commend Montenegrins, especially ethnic Montengrins such as, i don't know, maybe Milosevic and Karadzic.

What was Slovenia's and Croatia's contributions to Kosovo Albanians, other than acknowledging your illegal UDI. Did they really support the UDI, or did they really support the dismemberment of Serbia?

Mike

pre 14 godina

I'm happy to hear that KFOR remains the sole (read as only capable) security force in Kosovo Province, yet I wonder what they are preparing for. Some of our more aggressive Dardanians here continue to think KFOR is Thaci's rubber hose, but it seems to me that KFOR is operating to prevent instability emanating from Serbs and from Albanians as well. I guess we should be happy a third party security force remains. Knowing the objectives stirring in Pristina, K Albanian officials seem more than happy in instigating another conflict.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

What is wrong with you and fellow serbs that always mention March 2004? How come you guys never talk about 1998/99 and I am not going to go back for 5-6 decades, just those two years.What happened in 2004, is just a drop of water in the middle of Ocean compare to 1998/99 what Serbs did to K-albanians.
(Kosova-USA, 26 February 2010 12:54)

I would extend the 1998/1999 period to 1989-2001 (including the civil war in FYROM). From SFRJ point of view it is not dissimilar to the other crimes done in the name of Communism. Maybe the Civil War in Russia of 1917-1920 or the American Civil War is a better analogue - sickening things were done by every ethnic or religious group in these countries, so did happen in SFRJ. Who was targeted by whom and when was decided only by military luck or intervention from abroad.

Looking at the more narrow timeframe: the initiator of the open conflict in 1998 was clearly KLA. I remember well, KLA was regarded even by Clinton administration as the "terrorist organization" for extended period of time. Than - partly because Milosevic response was regarded as "overreacting", partly for geopolitical consideration the stand changed almost overnight.

As much as I could I was monitoring the events from the safe distance of the Bay Area. I had an impression, the entire conflict was cleverly set up from USA and Milosevic just walked into a trap set up by purpose. Here I do not expect anyone to agree, that was (and is) merely my impression I had from the news and I was pretty much far away from events (thanks God!). This is not an excuse for Milosevic, he was a criminal as he was, don't get me wrong.

As for 2004: that was an ugly ethnic riot, where the last word was said by common criminals. What Serbian gang is missing here is a very trivial phrase said by Albanians, nothing more:

"yep, indeed, these of 2004 were lowlife and hopefully they can re-think their deeds while in jail". I do not see, where is the rocket science in that phrase.

Bob

pre 14 godina

Please stop using racist generalisations. When a group is acting as a group then generalisations are appropriate; however, when arguing with individuals phrases like 'you Serbs' or 'you Albanians' are wrong. Individual views vary. There are many within a population who do not conform the stereotypes you have in your mind.

There were murders and ethnic cleansers on all sides. However that does not make everybody a murder or an ethnic cleanser.

There are lots of good people who are drawn wrongly into these generalisations. The majority on both sides were not murders or ethnic cleansers.

The other issue is how much people are drawn into the bad agendas that have been set by bad politicians for their own motives. Often these agendas have superficial appeal, but the down side later becomes obvious. The whole of Germany was sucked in by Hitler for example because of the superficial appeal of his nationalism - but the price for the Germans was incredibly high.

There were many Albanians who did not want to force Serbs out of Kosovo but had to conform to the pressures put on them by nationalists. There was no way out for the individual because of the pressure from neighbours. Likewise, decent Serbs who hated the ethnic cleansing and the wrongs done by violent people but found it difficult to do anything about it.

The arguments in the postings are often on the basis of prejudiced views. I myself am prejudiced against the idea of Kosovo being removed from Serbia. I hope however that my generalisations are appropriate and do not mislabel good people who do not conform to the stereotypical views I might have.

PRN

pre 14 godina

We thank NATO that is continously confirming that KFOR preparedness is at HIGH LEVEL.

This in other words means that for at least some years to come NATO is going to do a dirty job (in the North) if necessary, thus sparing Albanian lives.

Anyways once Kosovo army get FINAL SHAPE end of next year or the beginning of teh 2012 the KFOR may begin to pack and leave. Anyway they are free to stay but we wont let them do any dirty work for us. Enough is enough.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 14 godina

Kosova-USA,
you are too funny, always blaming the Serbs for Albanian's misfortunes.

Serbia has done better for the Albanian diaspora, then Alabania itself.

Why don't you for once commend the humanity, hospitality and generosity given to Albanians by Serbs.

For there would many death starved Albanians without the help of Serbia.

One more thing, why do Albanians blame Serbs from the former Jugoslavia for a wrong doings?

Was not the former Jugoslavia comprised of Slovenians, Croations, Macedonians and so on...

You berate Serbs, but you commend Montenegrins, especially ethnic Montengrins such as, i don't know, maybe Milosevic and Karadzic.

What was Slovenia's and Croatia's contributions to Kosovo Albanians, other than acknowledging your illegal UDI. Did they really support the UDI, or did they really support the dismemberment of Serbia?

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"The drills “confirmed that they are ready to react to any situation which could pose a threat to security on the entire territory of Kosovo”, said a statement."

I guess they were not quick enough to react to prevent albanians and their attacks on Serbian cemetaries, churches and the beating of Serbs. We all witnessed how prepared KFOR was in 2004 when herds of poor and unemployed albanians destroyed our holy land. Or perhaps this is not a security threat? What seems to be a great security threat to NATO is that Serbs, in a peaceful way, are refusing to recongize the illegal UDI. In that case prepare for long lasting insubordination from Serbs and the Serbian nation.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Mikael C,
What is wrong with you and fellow serbs that always mention March 2004? How come you guys never talk about 1998/99 and I am not going to go back for 5-6 decades, just those two years.What happened in 2004, is just a drop of water in the middle of Ocean compare to 1998/99 what Serbs did to K-albanians.

sj

pre 14 godina

It’s called Operation Jerking Albanian Chains. A so called Albanian Army in Kosovo, over US/EU dead bodies.
Look NATO/KFOR/EULEX, they can all drill for pancakes, oil, or gold if they like but nothing changes. It’s all smoke and mirrors for Albanians.
Sit and think for a moment; what is NATO going to do in Northern Kosovo? use violence or force? Remember Newton’s 3 law – they push we push just as hard.

Diana

pre 14 godina

Is this a threat to the Serbs in the North? If so they need to be very careful about alienating 2/3 of the world that have not recognised Kosovo. They will show themselves up for the bulies and liars that they are and I'm sure other countries will not stand by and watch.

Mike

pre 14 godina

I'm happy to hear that KFOR remains the sole (read as only capable) security force in Kosovo Province, yet I wonder what they are preparing for. Some of our more aggressive Dardanians here continue to think KFOR is Thaci's rubber hose, but it seems to me that KFOR is operating to prevent instability emanating from Serbs and from Albanians as well. I guess we should be happy a third party security force remains. Knowing the objectives stirring in Pristina, K Albanian officials seem more than happy in instigating another conflict.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

What is wrong with you and fellow serbs that always mention March 2004? How come you guys never talk about 1998/99 and I am not going to go back for 5-6 decades, just those two years.What happened in 2004, is just a drop of water in the middle of Ocean compare to 1998/99 what Serbs did to K-albanians.
(Kosova-USA, 26 February 2010 12:54)

I would extend the 1998/1999 period to 1989-2001 (including the civil war in FYROM). From SFRJ point of view it is not dissimilar to the other crimes done in the name of Communism. Maybe the Civil War in Russia of 1917-1920 or the American Civil War is a better analogue - sickening things were done by every ethnic or religious group in these countries, so did happen in SFRJ. Who was targeted by whom and when was decided only by military luck or intervention from abroad.

Looking at the more narrow timeframe: the initiator of the open conflict in 1998 was clearly KLA. I remember well, KLA was regarded even by Clinton administration as the "terrorist organization" for extended period of time. Than - partly because Milosevic response was regarded as "overreacting", partly for geopolitical consideration the stand changed almost overnight.

As much as I could I was monitoring the events from the safe distance of the Bay Area. I had an impression, the entire conflict was cleverly set up from USA and Milosevic just walked into a trap set up by purpose. Here I do not expect anyone to agree, that was (and is) merely my impression I had from the news and I was pretty much far away from events (thanks God!). This is not an excuse for Milosevic, he was a criminal as he was, don't get me wrong.

As for 2004: that was an ugly ethnic riot, where the last word was said by common criminals. What Serbian gang is missing here is a very trivial phrase said by Albanians, nothing more:

"yep, indeed, these of 2004 were lowlife and hopefully they can re-think their deeds while in jail". I do not see, where is the rocket science in that phrase.

Bob

pre 14 godina

Please stop using racist generalisations. When a group is acting as a group then generalisations are appropriate; however, when arguing with individuals phrases like 'you Serbs' or 'you Albanians' are wrong. Individual views vary. There are many within a population who do not conform the stereotypes you have in your mind.

There were murders and ethnic cleansers on all sides. However that does not make everybody a murder or an ethnic cleanser.

There are lots of good people who are drawn wrongly into these generalisations. The majority on both sides were not murders or ethnic cleansers.

The other issue is how much people are drawn into the bad agendas that have been set by bad politicians for their own motives. Often these agendas have superficial appeal, but the down side later becomes obvious. The whole of Germany was sucked in by Hitler for example because of the superficial appeal of his nationalism - but the price for the Germans was incredibly high.

There were many Albanians who did not want to force Serbs out of Kosovo but had to conform to the pressures put on them by nationalists. There was no way out for the individual because of the pressure from neighbours. Likewise, decent Serbs who hated the ethnic cleansing and the wrongs done by violent people but found it difficult to do anything about it.

The arguments in the postings are often on the basis of prejudiced views. I myself am prejudiced against the idea of Kosovo being removed from Serbia. I hope however that my generalisations are appropriate and do not mislabel good people who do not conform to the stereotypical views I might have.