"KPS, not KSF will guard monuments"

Doesn't matter how they are called, the very fact that culturage heritage HAVE to be protected not to be destroyed is fundamently wrong and proves that the muppet show pseudo govnt in Pristina is not in control of even basic security!

Exactly, Niall. Let us not forget KOSOVARi's "promise" that in April KSF will open a base in the north to implement a Pristina-based takeover. Since they are a humanitarian group, what would they do up there? Clear trees and put out fires?

There you have it! So much for your formidable "army." Light weapons. Humanitarian duties. Oh I love it!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 10:00) … if you are an american i must be barack obama.
(niko kurkuli, 16 February 2010 10:35)

yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you have to say about this article though?

Apparently... nothing.

"The role of KSF is not to guard anything. Their role has nothing to do with protection of monuments of culture. They are a completely different force, armed lightly, and the only role they have is humanitarian, such as extinguishing fires, mine clearing, removing dangerous materials, search and rescue," the commander of the NATO-led troops in the province told Radio Kontakt Plus on Monday.

-- There you have it! So much for your formidable "army." Light weapons. Humanitarian duties. Oh I love it!

-- There you have it! So much for your formidable "army." Light weapons. Humanitarian duties. Oh I love it!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 10:00)

Indeed Jason, so much for the mighty powerful 'Kosova'-Dardania-Illyrian army. I bet Tadic is quaking in his boots.

The wolf appointed to guard the sheep ......

They are a completely different force, armed lightly, and the only role they have is humanitarian, such as extinguishing fires, mine clearing, removing dangerous materials, search and rescue,"

Thats got to hurt?

-- There you have it! So much for your formidable "army." Light weapons. Humanitarian duties. Oh I love it!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 10:00)

Eh had it been a fully functional army it would be called Kosovo Defence Force and not "Security". If Kosovo had such army we wouldnt need KFOR, now would be? In a period of 2-3 years Kosovo will have its functional army and by then KFOR will propably have less then 2000 troops in all of Kosovo. If you actually work for EULEX with that tone of yoursthen Im President of Serbia.
(Pejoni, 16 February 2010, 13:43)

Yeah, yeah, yeah... how about addressing the point that KSF will NOT be doing anything up north like many of you were cheering about last month. In particular, Mirub Jaeger, Kosovari, and I beleive, you as well.

Way to dodge the issue by bringing up something else!

Rats not pigeons...is that supposed to make anything better?

KPS will guard ALL monuments and in case of urgency they will call the Kosovo army for help. Period.
(PRN, 16 February 2010 11:14)
--
PRN, in which "country" do the police have more weapons than the "army"? Tell me a situation where the "police" will urgently need this so-called unarmed "army"? The only time they'll need them "urgently" is during the next church burning picnic. Do you remember this picnic? Check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2EFFBpoOu4&feature=fvw

And who will guard the criminal trafficking organ harvesters in their disguise as "police", their EU-masters?

War is peace, idiocy is sanity etc....

I can understand why US wants instigate another war in the balkans, they always do, but EU?

JohnBoy: "Time to invoke the 1244 provision about Serbian police forces guarding monuments. This german general has no say."

Exactly - enough of the nonsense. It was agreed that Serbian police could guard monuments.

To "Niko Kurkuli" - I am British and I share most of Jason's views. So why do you have a problem believing that he is American?

So it's fine for 'Westerners' to support anything pro Albanian but not to be against this Kosovo project? We come in all shapes, sizes and nationalities, with all of our own ideas, pity for you.

It better to tell the truth, since it only 1 years old army.
Unlike the Serbina politicians tha lie to people that Serbia has any kind of army.
After the death of Yugo., Serbia used the entire arsenal of weapons of ex Yugo. and destroyed the whole lot. State of Serbian army is better described by the generals that leave the army,as they say it is reduced to almost a army for humanitarian purposes. Also, I must say that current Serbian is in better shape, and better equiped that KSF.

The best scenario for the entire region would be to take NATO membership to avoid the future wars, since Balkan states are not capable of using theri milirayr supremacy for any other means but to kill each other.

In which real country does a church need police protection 24 hours a day?

KPS will guard ALL monuments and in case of urgency they will call the Kosovo army for help. Period.

Lets not politicize it. In Kosovo, the people elected , and institutions rule. Rest assure that everything will be safe sound.

"Mirub" states:

"We all have a problem with his claims and facts. He claimed that he worked for UNMIK first and then EULEX. We all know that employment process does not allow an UNMIK employee work for EULEX."

-- Wow. You just outed yourself as closet Albanian. You could not be possibly be more wrong. Have you any idea how many of us in EULEX worked in UNMIK? I would say its over 90% for the American contingent. As far as EU countries go I would venture to guess it is in the ballpark of 50%. In my office alone I know its over 70% who were here in UNMIK.
Again, "Mirub" states:

"Also he claims that he is an American but then he said he is a Serb in Kosovo, too. If your claims are such then..."

Never once have I said I was a Serb in Kosovo. I am an American in Kosovo. I challenge you to find anything, anywhere where I claim to be Serb. Simply put: you cannot, sir.

Way to try and avoid the issue at hand. You are cearly trying to avoid addressing how I highlighted your own misinformation here on this forum (regarding KSF in the north.) I guess it is more convenient to just try and change the subject after you have been made to look foolish...

By all means, please continue showing your ignorance of EULEX and UNMIK.

There you have it! So much for your formidable "army." Light weapons. Humanitarian duties. Oh I love it!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 10:00) if you are an american i must be barack obama.

-- There you have it! So much for your formidable "army." Light weapons. Humanitarian duties. Oh I love it!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 10:00)

Eh had it been a fully functional army it would be called Kosovo Defence Force and not "Security". If Kosovo had such army we wouldnt need KFOR, now would be? In a period of 2-3 years Kosovo will have its functional army and by then KFOR will propably have less then 2000 troops in all of Kosovo. If you actually work for EULEX with that tone of yoursthen Im President of Serbia.

This is a crucial evidence that 1244 is dead and Serbia knowledges it. According to 1244 Serb troops ate supposed to guard these monuments not KSF nor KPS nor KFOR.
The b92 favorite poster Jason fell for it, too. Instead of deliberating the issue on principle he's trapped into the game of "definitely not Serb troops but will it be KFS or KPS".
(Mirub Jager, 16 February 2010 16:32)

Yawn.

Let's stick to the topic about KSF being for humanitarian crises.

This must be unwelcome news to an "insider" such as yourself who so recently stated that KSF would be implementing the plan in the north.

This is a crucial evidence that 1244 is dead and Serbia knowledges it. According to 1244 Serb troops ate supposed to guard these monuments not KSF nor KPS nor KFOR.
The b92 favorite poster Jason fell for it, too. Instead of deliberating the issue on principle he's trapped into the game of "definitely not Serb troops but will it be KFS or KPS".

This, like many "floater" ideas about Kosovo, will not happen. Time to invoke the 1244 provision about Serbian police forces guarding monuments. This german general has no say.

Armies guard monuments in event of war,when is peace police take things in their hands.Now you hate the fact that NATO is passing their duties to KPS and all you have to say is make fun of KSF.

Also he claims that he is an American but then he said he is a Serb in Kosovo, too. If your claims are such then...
(Mirub Jager, 16 February 2010 18:23)
--
I've never heard Jason make a claim to be Serbian. However, you are the one that initially refused to be Albanian but later admitted it.

I think EULEX should also be guarding the monuments too. Also KSF and KFOR should be called in for emergencies. The Kosovar Govt and Kosovar people should take more respect in these old monuments, not just for cultural and historical reasons, but they should use them to their advantages. They should use them to attract tourists from all over. This way protection and preservation of the monuments can be ensured as well as helping enrich the Kosovar economy. It is a wine-win situation.

I never for one have suggested nor predicted such a thing about KSF in north. However, I did write that KFOR has alocated extra troops in the north while the rest of Kosovo their number has been reduced drastically. Next time, don't assume, make up, or distort my opinions.
(Mirub Jager, 16 February 2010 17:03)

Mirub, you make this too easy... Just 2 weeks ago, you so proudly stated, and I quote,

(cue drum roll...)

"As plain as black and white. I said it last week: Kosovo government made the blueprints, EULEX to implement, KFOR, KPS, and KSF to execute it. Meanwhile, Serbs can have a front seat (binoculars needed because of the buffer zone) to watcy the unfolding of the plan to integrate north to its rightful place
(Mirub Jager, 1 February 2010 18:07"

Just what is that, Mirub? Will you give the Clintonian answer of "well is depends on what the definition of "is" is" ???

What is your definition of "execute?"

Let's stick to the topic about KSF being for humanitarian crises.

This must be unwelcome news to an "insider" such as yourself who so recently stated that KSF would be implementing the plan in the north.
(Jason, 16 February 2010 17:09)


Well Jason you have to know the basic information before being a good soldier. Taking care of mines and providing humanitarian service is just what Kosovo and it's citizens need right now. We have no other country who are threatning us apart from Serbia and that is why Nato is here. When Nato leaves there will be no army here apart from KSF and by then Kosovo will need an army to defend her self from Serbia. KSF will be that army and there is nothing Serbia can do to change that. We all know that KSF have just been built and in 15 years KSF will be a very strong and professional army. Just as Kosovo became independent even if serbs dident belive their mind.


And when it comes to the North Kosovo I can remind you that american forces has been deployed there. It is an ally to Kosovo wich will help Kosovo goverment to take care of that part of our country.


But in the end there is no serbian police or army wich will protect this religous buildings in Kosovo. It is an instituiton of the goverment of Kosovo wich will provide security for this buildings.

I'm still laughing at the "extinguishing fires"...
I'm picturing the KSF with buckets of water running around extinguishing a bush fire!
Got to love it.

So it's fine for 'Westerners' to support anything pro Albanian but not to be against this Kosovo project? We come in all shapes, sizes and nationalities, with all of our own ideas, pity for you.
(kate, 16 February 2010 17:18)

I have to correct you Kate, mainly politicians are "supporting" the kosovo alien project because they have now no other choice, the US dumped a hot potatoe into their backyard!

Don't even want to talk about the reputation of k-a in Europe, sad reality.

I wished we had more Jason to comment on this site!

"I am British and I share most of the Jason's views. So why do you have a problem believing that he is American?
Kate.

We all have a problem with his claims and facts. He claimed that he worked for UNMIK first and then EULEX. We all know that employment process does not allow an UNMIK employee work for EULEX.
Also he claims that he is an American but then he said he is a Serb in Kosovo, too. If your claims are such then...

Yeah, yeah, yeah... how about addressing the point that KSF will NOT be doing anything up north like many of you were cheering about last month. In particular, Mirub Jaeger, Kosovari, and I beleive, you as well.

Way to dodge the issue by bringing up something else!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 14:08)

KSF will open their base in north and I stand by that, what, you heard different? Its both political and for security reasons. Thaci needs to give the public results and secondly its for security reasons. If only EULEX would start doing their job instead of telling Prishtina they will fix this, until now they havent done much and they are losing support from the public pretty fast. Send in ROSU with backing of local police and its a done befor Belgrade get the news what just happend. Nothing will be accomplished until we take it on our own hands.

KSF will open their base in north and I stand by that, what, you heard different? Its both political and for security reasons. Thaci needs to give the public results and secondly its for security reasons. If only EULEX would start doing their job instead of telling Prishtina they will fix this, until now they havent done much and they are losing support from the public pretty fast. Send in ROSU with backing of local police and its a done befor Belgrade get the news what just happend. Nothing will be accomplished until we take it on our own hands.
(Pejoni, 16 February 2010 20:16)

Security reasons?!?!? Look, my friend - we just heard that KSF is for "humanitarian" purposes only, so they clearly have nothing to do with security in the north. How can you sit here and try and imply otherwise?

You guys got more than you deserve in the south so why not leave things as they are and not bite off more than you can chew?

Yeah, yeah, yeah... how about addressing the point that KSF will NOT be doing anything up north like many of you were cheering about last month. In particular, Mirub Jaeger, Kosovari, and I beleive, you as well.

Way to dodge the issue by bringing up something else!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 14:08)

I never for one have suggested nor predicted such a thing about KSF in north. However, I did write that KFOR has alocated extra troops in the north while the rest of Kosovo their number has been reduced drastically. Next time, don't assume, make up, or distort my opinions.

Exactly, Niall. Let us not forget KOSOVARi's "promise" that in April KSF will open a base in the north to implement a Pristina-based takeover. Since they are a humanitarian group, what would they do up there? Clear trees and put out fires?
(Jason, 16 February 2010 10:52)

You talk too much and do little reading. I never mentioned the KSF. In fact what I said was that Kosovo Police (KP) was taking over the Kosova-Albania border around 120 ~ 180 km. Then I said that KP was taking over the Kosova-Serbia border sometimes in April.

-- Kosovari, I stand corrected. I was indeed wrong and apologize for confusing you with Pejoni. It was him, rather than you that I cited. Pejoni's statements are the same as Mirub's, and not yours. My fault and all the best, Jason.

Jason

am not sure you would be able to see things objectively from your standpoint but I would have thought it is actually quite clever game Albanians are playing.. getting international community to do the hard work and get things in order for them ...(an sir you are one of them to support Albanian cause).

In which real country does a church need police protection 24 hours a day?
(Mikael C, 16 February 2010 16:15)

In many countries. In Austria still synagoges have around 24 by 24 police patrols
(jingjang, 16 February 2010 20:28)
========================

Don't think so. The Jewish community has posted permanent guards at their schools but these guards are not police. I have not seen a permanent police presence at any of the synagogues here but you're right about the Jews being targeted in Australia.

Gee, who is targeting them? By exposing how the Jews have become targets again you are admitting that nobody is safe from Islam anywhere in the world.
Disgusting.

An agreed number to among other things "maintain a presence" at patrimonial sites under the supervision of the international presence.
(pss, 17 February 2010 02:34)

So - an aggreed number of Serbian personnel should back to Kosovo.

Exactly, Niall. Let us not forget KOSOVARi's "promise" that in April KSF will open a base in the north to implement a Pristina-based takeover. Since they are a humanitarian group, what would they do up there? Clear trees and put out fires?
(Jason, 16 February 2010 10:52)

You talk too much and do little reading. I never mentioned the KSF. In fact what I said was that Kosovo Police (KP) was taking over the Kosova-Albania border around 120 ~ 180 km. Then I said that KP was taking over the Kosova-Serbia border sometimes in April.

The words KSF were never uttered, but of course, a few of us are here to contribute information and discussions and some of us are here to bash others. Just like you said earlier, the topic is about KSF being humanitarian (that's a prime example of bashing.

In which real country does a church need police protection 24 hours a day?
(Mikael C, 16 February 2010 16:15)

In many countries. In Austria still synagoges have around 24 by 24 police patrols

This, like many "floater" ideas about Kosovo, will not happen. Time to invoke the 1244 provision about Serbian police forces guarding monuments. This german general has no say.
(JohnBoy, 16 February 2010 16:35)
Didn't really read this part of 1244 did you.
An agreed number to among other things "maintain a presence" at patrimonial sites under the supervision of the international presence.
So this German General actually has the final say. He could agree to up to a 1000 or 10 or 0 personnel to maintain a presence and then he gets to decide even if they are armed or not.
But after 10 years of not requesting to send anyone in, do you seriously think it is going to happen now?

Yeah, yeah, yeah... how about addressing the point that KSF will NOT be doing anything up north like many of you were cheering about last month. In particular, Mirub Jaeger, Kosovari, and I beleive, you as well.

Way to dodge the issue by bringing up something else!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 14:08)

I never stated such a thing, I commented in this site for the first time in my life yesterday, and about a different article.
However, I see that there is some ambiguity here, apparently here is another person with a label KOSOVARi, but with all capital letters.

KPS will guard ALL monuments and in case of urgency they will call the Kosovo army for help. Period.

Lets not politicize it. In Kosovo, the people elected , and institutions rule. Rest assure that everything will be safe sound.

It better to tell the truth, since it only 1 years old army.
Unlike the Serbina politicians tha lie to people that Serbia has any kind of army.
After the death of Yugo., Serbia used the entire arsenal of weapons of ex Yugo. and destroyed the whole lot. State of Serbian army is better described by the generals that leave the army,as they say it is reduced to almost a army for humanitarian purposes. Also, I must say that current Serbian is in better shape, and better equiped that KSF.

The best scenario for the entire region would be to take NATO membership to avoid the future wars, since Balkan states are not capable of using theri milirayr supremacy for any other means but to kill each other.

There you have it! So much for your formidable "army." Light weapons. Humanitarian duties. Oh I love it!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 10:00) if you are an american i must be barack obama.

"The role of KSF is not to guard anything. Their role has nothing to do with protection of monuments of culture. They are a completely different force, armed lightly, and the only role they have is humanitarian, such as extinguishing fires, mine clearing, removing dangerous materials, search and rescue," the commander of the NATO-led troops in the province told Radio Kontakt Plus on Monday.

-- There you have it! So much for your formidable "army." Light weapons. Humanitarian duties. Oh I love it!

I think EULEX should also be guarding the monuments too. Also KSF and KFOR should be called in for emergencies. The Kosovar Govt and Kosovar people should take more respect in these old monuments, not just for cultural and historical reasons, but they should use them to their advantages. They should use them to attract tourists from all over. This way protection and preservation of the monuments can be ensured as well as helping enrich the Kosovar economy. It is a wine-win situation.

Armies guard monuments in event of war,when is peace police take things in their hands.Now you hate the fact that NATO is passing their duties to KPS and all you have to say is make fun of KSF.

-- There you have it! So much for your formidable "army." Light weapons. Humanitarian duties. Oh I love it!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 10:00)

Eh had it been a fully functional army it would be called Kosovo Defence Force and not "Security". If Kosovo had such army we wouldnt need KFOR, now would be? In a period of 2-3 years Kosovo will have its functional army and by then KFOR will propably have less then 2000 troops in all of Kosovo. If you actually work for EULEX with that tone of yoursthen Im President of Serbia.

They are a completely different force, armed lightly, and the only role they have is humanitarian, such as extinguishing fires, mine clearing, removing dangerous materials, search and rescue,"

Thats got to hurt?

-- There you have it! So much for your formidable "army." Light weapons. Humanitarian duties. Oh I love it!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 10:00)

Eh had it been a fully functional army it would be called Kosovo Defence Force and not "Security". If Kosovo had such army we wouldnt need KFOR, now would be? In a period of 2-3 years Kosovo will have its functional army and by then KFOR will propably have less then 2000 troops in all of Kosovo. If you actually work for EULEX with that tone of yoursthen Im President of Serbia.
(Pejoni, 16 February 2010, 13:43)

Yeah, yeah, yeah... how about addressing the point that KSF will NOT be doing anything up north like many of you were cheering about last month. In particular, Mirub Jaeger, Kosovari, and I beleive, you as well.

Way to dodge the issue by bringing up something else!

Exactly, Niall. Let us not forget KOSOVARi's "promise" that in April KSF will open a base in the north to implement a Pristina-based takeover. Since they are a humanitarian group, what would they do up there? Clear trees and put out fires?

There you have it! So much for your formidable "army." Light weapons. Humanitarian duties. Oh I love it!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 10:00) … if you are an american i must be barack obama.
(niko kurkuli, 16 February 2010 10:35)

yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you have to say about this article though?

Apparently... nothing.

This is a crucial evidence that 1244 is dead and Serbia knowledges it. According to 1244 Serb troops ate supposed to guard these monuments not KSF nor KPS nor KFOR.
The b92 favorite poster Jason fell for it, too. Instead of deliberating the issue on principle he's trapped into the game of "definitely not Serb troops but will it be KFS or KPS".

Yeah, yeah, yeah... how about addressing the point that KSF will NOT be doing anything up north like many of you were cheering about last month. In particular, Mirub Jaeger, Kosovari, and I beleive, you as well.

Way to dodge the issue by bringing up something else!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 14:08)

I never for one have suggested nor predicted such a thing about KSF in north. However, I did write that KFOR has alocated extra troops in the north while the rest of Kosovo their number has been reduced drastically. Next time, don't assume, make up, or distort my opinions.

And who will guard the criminal trafficking organ harvesters in their disguise as "police", their EU-masters?

War is peace, idiocy is sanity etc....

I can understand why US wants instigate another war in the balkans, they always do, but EU?

Doesn't matter how they are called, the very fact that culturage heritage HAVE to be protected not to be destroyed is fundamently wrong and proves that the muppet show pseudo govnt in Pristina is not in control of even basic security!

KPS will guard ALL monuments and in case of urgency they will call the Kosovo army for help. Period.
(PRN, 16 February 2010 11:14)
--
PRN, in which "country" do the police have more weapons than the "army"? Tell me a situation where the "police" will urgently need this so-called unarmed "army"? The only time they'll need them "urgently" is during the next church burning picnic. Do you remember this picnic? Check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2EFFBpoOu4&feature=fvw

The wolf appointed to guard the sheep ......

"I am British and I share most of the Jason's views. So why do you have a problem believing that he is American?
Kate.

We all have a problem with his claims and facts. He claimed that he worked for UNMIK first and then EULEX. We all know that employment process does not allow an UNMIK employee work for EULEX.
Also he claims that he is an American but then he said he is a Serb in Kosovo, too. If your claims are such then...

-- There you have it! So much for your formidable "army." Light weapons. Humanitarian duties. Oh I love it!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 10:00)

Indeed Jason, so much for the mighty powerful 'Kosova'-Dardania-Illyrian army. I bet Tadic is quaking in his boots.

Rats not pigeons...is that supposed to make anything better?

This is a crucial evidence that 1244 is dead and Serbia knowledges it. According to 1244 Serb troops ate supposed to guard these monuments not KSF nor KPS nor KFOR.
The b92 favorite poster Jason fell for it, too. Instead of deliberating the issue on principle he's trapped into the game of "definitely not Serb troops but will it be KFS or KPS".
(Mirub Jager, 16 February 2010 16:32)

Yawn.

Let's stick to the topic about KSF being for humanitarian crises.

This must be unwelcome news to an "insider" such as yourself who so recently stated that KSF would be implementing the plan in the north.

Exactly, Niall. Let us not forget KOSOVARi's "promise" that in April KSF will open a base in the north to implement a Pristina-based takeover. Since they are a humanitarian group, what would they do up there? Clear trees and put out fires?
(Jason, 16 February 2010 10:52)

You talk too much and do little reading. I never mentioned the KSF. In fact what I said was that Kosovo Police (KP) was taking over the Kosova-Albania border around 120 ~ 180 km. Then I said that KP was taking over the Kosova-Serbia border sometimes in April.

The words KSF were never uttered, but of course, a few of us are here to contribute information and discussions and some of us are here to bash others. Just like you said earlier, the topic is about KSF being humanitarian (that's a prime example of bashing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah... how about addressing the point that KSF will NOT be doing anything up north like many of you were cheering about last month. In particular, Mirub Jaeger, Kosovari, and I beleive, you as well.

Way to dodge the issue by bringing up something else!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 14:08)

KSF will open their base in north and I stand by that, what, you heard different? Its both political and for security reasons. Thaci needs to give the public results and secondly its for security reasons. If only EULEX would start doing their job instead of telling Prishtina they will fix this, until now they havent done much and they are losing support from the public pretty fast. Send in ROSU with backing of local police and its a done befor Belgrade get the news what just happend. Nothing will be accomplished until we take it on our own hands.

JohnBoy: "Time to invoke the 1244 provision about Serbian police forces guarding monuments. This german general has no say."

Exactly - enough of the nonsense. It was agreed that Serbian police could guard monuments.

To "Niko Kurkuli" - I am British and I share most of Jason's views. So why do you have a problem believing that he is American?

So it's fine for 'Westerners' to support anything pro Albanian but not to be against this Kosovo project? We come in all shapes, sizes and nationalities, with all of our own ideas, pity for you.

Let's stick to the topic about KSF being for humanitarian crises.

This must be unwelcome news to an "insider" such as yourself who so recently stated that KSF would be implementing the plan in the north.
(Jason, 16 February 2010 17:09)


Well Jason you have to know the basic information before being a good soldier. Taking care of mines and providing humanitarian service is just what Kosovo and it's citizens need right now. We have no other country who are threatning us apart from Serbia and that is why Nato is here. When Nato leaves there will be no army here apart from KSF and by then Kosovo will need an army to defend her self from Serbia. KSF will be that army and there is nothing Serbia can do to change that. We all know that KSF have just been built and in 15 years KSF will be a very strong and professional army. Just as Kosovo became independent even if serbs dident belive their mind.


And when it comes to the North Kosovo I can remind you that american forces has been deployed there. It is an ally to Kosovo wich will help Kosovo goverment to take care of that part of our country.


But in the end there is no serbian police or army wich will protect this religous buildings in Kosovo. It is an instituiton of the goverment of Kosovo wich will provide security for this buildings.

In which real country does a church need police protection 24 hours a day?
(Mikael C, 16 February 2010 16:15)

In many countries. In Austria still synagoges have around 24 by 24 police patrols

In which real country does a church need police protection 24 hours a day?

Jason

am not sure you would be able to see things objectively from your standpoint but I would have thought it is actually quite clever game Albanians are playing.. getting international community to do the hard work and get things in order for them ...(an sir you are one of them to support Albanian cause).

This, like many "floater" ideas about Kosovo, will not happen. Time to invoke the 1244 provision about Serbian police forces guarding monuments. This german general has no say.

This, like many "floater" ideas about Kosovo, will not happen. Time to invoke the 1244 provision about Serbian police forces guarding monuments. This german general has no say.
(JohnBoy, 16 February 2010 16:35)
Didn't really read this part of 1244 did you.
An agreed number to among other things "maintain a presence" at patrimonial sites under the supervision of the international presence.
So this German General actually has the final say. He could agree to up to a 1000 or 10 or 0 personnel to maintain a presence and then he gets to decide even if they are armed or not.
But after 10 years of not requesting to send anyone in, do you seriously think it is going to happen now?

I never for one have suggested nor predicted such a thing about KSF in north. However, I did write that KFOR has alocated extra troops in the north while the rest of Kosovo their number has been reduced drastically. Next time, don't assume, make up, or distort my opinions.
(Mirub Jager, 16 February 2010 17:03)

Mirub, you make this too easy... Just 2 weeks ago, you so proudly stated, and I quote,

(cue drum roll...)

"As plain as black and white. I said it last week: Kosovo government made the blueprints, EULEX to implement, KFOR, KPS, and KSF to execute it. Meanwhile, Serbs can have a front seat (binoculars needed because of the buffer zone) to watcy the unfolding of the plan to integrate north to its rightful place
(Mirub Jager, 1 February 2010 18:07"

Just what is that, Mirub? Will you give the Clintonian answer of "well is depends on what the definition of "is" is" ???

What is your definition of "execute?"

"Mirub" states:

"We all have a problem with his claims and facts. He claimed that he worked for UNMIK first and then EULEX. We all know that employment process does not allow an UNMIK employee work for EULEX."

-- Wow. You just outed yourself as closet Albanian. You could not be possibly be more wrong. Have you any idea how many of us in EULEX worked in UNMIK? I would say its over 90% for the American contingent. As far as EU countries go I would venture to guess it is in the ballpark of 50%. In my office alone I know its over 70% who were here in UNMIK.
Again, "Mirub" states:

"Also he claims that he is an American but then he said he is a Serb in Kosovo, too. If your claims are such then..."

Never once have I said I was a Serb in Kosovo. I am an American in Kosovo. I challenge you to find anything, anywhere where I claim to be Serb. Simply put: you cannot, sir.

Way to try and avoid the issue at hand. You are cearly trying to avoid addressing how I highlighted your own misinformation here on this forum (regarding KSF in the north.) I guess it is more convenient to just try and change the subject after you have been made to look foolish...

By all means, please continue showing your ignorance of EULEX and UNMIK.

KSF will open their base in north and I stand by that, what, you heard different? Its both political and for security reasons. Thaci needs to give the public results and secondly its for security reasons. If only EULEX would start doing their job instead of telling Prishtina they will fix this, until now they havent done much and they are losing support from the public pretty fast. Send in ROSU with backing of local police and its a done befor Belgrade get the news what just happend. Nothing will be accomplished until we take it on our own hands.
(Pejoni, 16 February 2010 20:16)

Security reasons?!?!? Look, my friend - we just heard that KSF is for "humanitarian" purposes only, so they clearly have nothing to do with security in the north. How can you sit here and try and imply otherwise?

You guys got more than you deserve in the south so why not leave things as they are and not bite off more than you can chew?

Exactly, Niall. Let us not forget KOSOVARi's "promise" that in April KSF will open a base in the north to implement a Pristina-based takeover. Since they are a humanitarian group, what would they do up there? Clear trees and put out fires?
(Jason, 16 February 2010 10:52)

You talk too much and do little reading. I never mentioned the KSF. In fact what I said was that Kosovo Police (KP) was taking over the Kosova-Albania border around 120 ~ 180 km. Then I said that KP was taking over the Kosova-Serbia border sometimes in April.

-- Kosovari, I stand corrected. I was indeed wrong and apologize for confusing you with Pejoni. It was him, rather than you that I cited. Pejoni's statements are the same as Mirub's, and not yours. My fault and all the best, Jason.

I'm still laughing at the "extinguishing fires"...
I'm picturing the KSF with buckets of water running around extinguishing a bush fire!
Got to love it.

So it's fine for 'Westerners' to support anything pro Albanian but not to be against this Kosovo project? We come in all shapes, sizes and nationalities, with all of our own ideas, pity for you.
(kate, 16 February 2010 17:18)

I have to correct you Kate, mainly politicians are "supporting" the kosovo alien project because they have now no other choice, the US dumped a hot potatoe into their backyard!

Don't even want to talk about the reputation of k-a in Europe, sad reality.

I wished we had more Jason to comment on this site!

Also he claims that he is an American but then he said he is a Serb in Kosovo, too. If your claims are such then...
(Mirub Jager, 16 February 2010 18:23)
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I've never heard Jason make a claim to be Serbian. However, you are the one that initially refused to be Albanian but later admitted it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah... how about addressing the point that KSF will NOT be doing anything up north like many of you were cheering about last month. In particular, Mirub Jaeger, Kosovari, and I beleive, you as well.

Way to dodge the issue by bringing up something else!
(Jason, 16 February 2010 14:08)

I never stated such a thing, I commented in this site for the first time in my life yesterday, and about a different article.
However, I see that there is some ambiguity here, apparently here is another person with a label KOSOVARi, but with all capital letters.

In which real country does a church need police protection 24 hours a day?
(Mikael C, 16 February 2010 16:15)

In many countries. In Austria still synagoges have around 24 by 24 police patrols
(jingjang, 16 February 2010 20:28)
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Don't think so. The Jewish community has posted permanent guards at their schools but these guards are not police. I have not seen a permanent police presence at any of the synagogues here but you're right about the Jews being targeted in Australia.

Gee, who is targeting them? By exposing how the Jews have become targets again you are admitting that nobody is safe from Islam anywhere in the world.
Disgusting.

An agreed number to among other things "maintain a presence" at patrimonial sites under the supervision of the international presence.
(pss, 17 February 2010 02:34)

So - an aggreed number of Serbian personnel should back to Kosovo.