Serbs arrested in K. Mitrovica on misdemeanor charges

The plan for the integration of the North STARTED.

Duration: 10 Months

Funds: 4-10 Mil Euros.

To be implemented by: Kosovo government, in coordination with ICO and EULEX,

Forces to restore order: KFOR, Kosovo army, and KPS

Delays: it is estimated that there may be MAX 3-6 months delay

Arrests: widespread arrests of Criminals that do not respect Constitution of Kosovo, regardless nationality

Firts stage Strategy of K govenment: To open offices of the R epublic of Kosovo in the North, secure functionality of customs (port 1 & 31) and organize FREE elections

PRN,

I fail to see how the arrest of several drunk Serbs is equivalent to taking over Serbian institutions in the north. The Serbian flags still fly everywhere, the univeristy, the hospital, and the various municipal agencies all are Serbian, as is the electricity provider, cable, phone, and postal service.

Keep dreaming that you Albanians will be in charge over 95% of the population. I can't wait to see your so-called army try to move north. KFOR would stop them to prevent them from being embarrassed and/or hurt.

You have no right to try and govern an unwilling population. Everyone seems to know this excpet you guys.

"for disturbing the peace and order" or rather endengaring the lives of others by shooting with AK47 at will.

This case is not about some drunken Serbs.
I sugest you call your bodies in north and they will tell you the real story. I know it, so does every newspaper in Kosova/o, including names of arrested KP.
(Kosova-USA, 1 February 2010 12:42)

I know the case well, unlike you. It has nothing to do with Serbian institutions, instead, it involves the biggest joke in Europe: KPS. Yes, the same KPS who had an Albanian ROSU member arrested for the multi-million dollar jewel heist last fall, the same KPS who had a member involved in criminal activity in Pec when he was shot a few weeks back, and the same KPS that committed the Bill Clinton bombing. Be they Albanian or Serb, KPS is a joke and MUP should be policing the north.

All this said, the story has absolutely nothing, I repeat, nothing to do with your desire to take over areas north of the Ibar. Keep fantasizing though if it makes you feel better:)

They were not shooting AT anyone, genius. It is something we call "happy fire" and it is not typical to only Serbs. The fighting afterwards was drunken idiocy, and nothing to do with Albanians. You are a hypocrite if you say otherwise because I can list dozens of cases of Albanians being arrested for the EXACT SAME THING. You need to try harder if you want to make a mountain out of a molehill.
(Jason, 1 February 2010 15:53)

So you have to shoot AT someone befor getting cought, is that your definition of law and order? What kind of a joke organisation do you work for, seriously? KP is doing a pretty damn good job considering the small budget they operate under. In every law enforcement you'll find dirty cops sooner or later, yes even in EU, no Im not going to compare MUP.

This isnt the first time radical Serbs employed by MUP are acting violently in that particalur part of Mitrovica, yet you ignore that one and act as if you work for UNMIK who used to cover-up Serbian crimes. Waite, it must be, it fits perfectly well! Albanians can't stand UNMIK and you work for them meaning as every UNMIK official you don't like us and try to insult our government, our police force and everything that stands for Kosovo, haha I should have seen that one coming long time ago, Jason-UNMIK.

Now this is funny, last time it was Albanians shooting during a wedding party and the roles were completely reversed, ha ha ha…

Shooting in the air is common, even in big cities like Belgrade, but especially with the more rural regions.
(Matthew, 1 February 2010 18:18)

Exactly, yet some people like Peon or whatever his name is think that Albanians can do no wrong and Serbs are the devil incarnate. The rest of his post was too ignorant to even bother responding to, but I am glad you caught his hypocrisy.

Jason, do I see you somehow nervous with your statements? What is it about? The Strategy for the North!? Everybody knew that sooner or later that part would come under control.
I really can’t understand you protecting those criminals!! A bullet fired from the gun can cause the same harm, no matter if it was “A happy fire” or a “Hostile fire”.
You seem to be paid quite well to write on behalf of Serbian Camp in here, since as I can see you are the only one writing at least a dozen comments a day in here. Lucky you getting two salaries!!

Waite, it must be, it fits perfectly well! Albanians can't stand UNMIK and you work for them meaning as every UNMIK official you don't like us and try to insult our government, our police force and everything that stands for Kosovo, haha I should have seen that one coming long time ago, Jason-UNMIK.
(Pejoni, 1 February 2010 17:24)

What the heck is this? How old are you man? 12?

What only 48 hours? Deatin them for 30 days, these thugs action may harm more Serbs then it did in 2004, their only intentions is clearly to provoke the Albanian population.
(Pejoni, 1 February 2010 15:30)

They were not shooting AT anyone, genius. It is something we call "happy fire" and it is not typical to only Serbs. The fighting afterwards was drunken idiocy, and nothing to do with Albanians. You are a hypocrite if you say otherwise because I can list dozens of cases of Albanians being arrested for the EXACT SAME THING. You need to try harder if you want to make a mountain out of a molehill.

PRN: "Arrests: widespread arrests of Criminals that do not respect Constitution of Kosovo, regardless nationality."

So not only were our taxes used to pummel Serbia, our former allies through 2 world wars; smash their infrastructure and heritage; terrorise their people and poison their land; but apparently they have also funded a fascist dictatorship.

I thought that Tony and Bill's savage attack was to force their version of democracy on people? Perhaps this is their version.

I hope that you have plenty of yellow paint ready, PRN, for that daubing of doors to identy where the Serbians and 'disloyal' Albanians live.

Now let's get real. Nothing can be forced on people when they live within their own state of Serbia, as recognised by the UN and majority of nations around the world.

Mr Feith and the ICO may be getting a tad frustrated and think they can stormtroop their way via the back door, but it isn't going to happen. Just recently the EU and Russia have both made it very clear that this is not something they will support.

Actually, if it wasn't for the risk of innocent people getting hurt, I would like to see them try.

Jason,

Now I understand why you like your job so much:
- payed well to do practically nothing.
- sitting in a warm room with a desktop and having hours and hours of free time being able to play the hot shot versus Albanians.

You have no right to try and govern an unwilling population. Everyone seems to know this excpet you guys.
(Jason, 1 February 2010 11:54)

This case is not about some drunken Serbs.
I sugest you call your bodies in north and they will tell you the real story. I know it, so does every newspaper in Kosova/o, including names of arrested KP.

A bullet fired from the gun can cause the same harm, no matter if it was “A happy fire” or a “Hostile fire”.

(Pzzz, 1 February 2010, 18:48)

Very astute observation. You get an A+. The point you and Peon missed entirely was that he called for the Serbs to be locked up for 30 days for shooting. Standard procedure for arrests of that nature where there is no intent to harm is arrest and release into general procedure. Nobody said "happy fire" is not a crime, I am merely pointing out your own people do it routinely too and the penalty is certainly not 30 days in jail. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds...

What only 48 hours? Deatin them for 30 days, these thugs action may harm more Serbs then it did in 2004, their only intentions is clearly to provoke the Albanian population.

how much money? we need to know! war profiteering can be such an enriching experience, if you catch my drift.

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 2 February 2010 07:25)

Probably more than you, my friend. To top that off, you should know I earned my graduate degree while here - and a great deal of my studies involved arguing why NATO aggression against Yugoslavia was illegal, as is this entire experiment in Kosovo AND Metohija. It was enriching to use real life examples from the better part of the past decade.

If you worry about your tax dollars at work, I think you should be far more alarmed by the hundreds of millions given to your Israeli brethren to exterminate civilians in Gaza and West Bank, as well as billions of your tax dollars used to kill women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You rarely complain about that though... funny, isn't it?

Now this is funny, last time it was Albanians shooting during a wedding party and the roles were completely reversed, ha ha ha…

Shooting in the air is common, even in big cities like Belgrade, but especially with the more rural regions.

Jason,

Hope you are not from EULEX, because we are in deep...trouble then.

You are not paid to advocate failure of KP, but to convey your experience (if have brought any and you are not just a security guard at Walmart). If there is failure, it is partly yours, so don't brag about it.

On the other hand, would you call it a molehill when your kids are found shooting weapons on the street, then KP finding hand granade in their bedroom? When you come home and find Police doing their job, would you attack the crime scene investigators?

In this case I would hide forever in shame being a failure as a parent.

There is no excuse as it is normal in the Balkans to happy shoot and have an arms depot at home, whatever angle we look at. It is a shame in all societies, be it Albanian, Egyptian, Ashkali or Serbian.

Thanks Kate, and please know we are not all bad here in EULEX. After all, there are member states with huge contigents here like Romania who absolutely reject any idea of an independent Kosovo.

I have seen several other internationals here in this forum (though I don't know which organizations they work for) who echo my sentiments. Micheal Breathnach, Clive UK, and former employee here Mike all come to mind. It is encouraging to see other speak up too.

I have been following the Blair inquiry and I am also sickened by it. Its funny that so many remain silent though. Apparently crimes against humanity seem to be ok if those doing the killing are your allies in the US or UK. Ironic. Sickening.

Jason, I don’t see the point of linking me (my comment) with Peon’s statement. Bottom line, those people were drunk and armed and their shooting can in no way be called as a “happy fire”, but rather “Drunken Fire”. This is way it is not similar as other ‘regional habit of shooting into the air, whether Serbian, Albanian, Macedonian or whoever’, as Kate pointed out. Further, these guys attacked KosovA Police and to make it worse there were two Serb national police officers who tried to obstruct their colleagues in doing their work, and subsequently ended up in jail together with the other “happy” ones.
In this regard I simply can’t understand you protecting them. I’ve read many comments from you, and you appear to be way too biased.

Pzzzzzz: "A bullet fired from the gun can cause the same harm, no matter if it was “A happy fire” or a “Hostile fire”."

And to all the others who are making such a big deal about the regional habit of shooting into the air, whether Serbian, Albanian, Macedonian or whoever.

Everyone knows that this is a common practise and of course it is (a) dangerous and (b) a crime. But viewing it in the same light as, or comparing it to, deliberately shooting at a person is just ridiculous.

Jason, I don’t see the point of linking me (my comment) with Peon’s statement. Bottom line, those people were drunk and armed and their shooting can in no way be called as a “happy fire”, but rather “Drunken Fire”. This is way it is not similar as other ‘regional habit of shooting into the air, whether Serbian, Albanian, Macedonian or whoever’, as Kate pointed out. Further, these guys attacked KosovA Police and to make it worse there were two Serb national police officers who tried to obstruct their colleagues in doing their work, and subsequently ended up in jail together with the other “happy” ones.
In this regard I simply can’t understand you protecting them. I’ve read many comments from you, and you appear to be way too biased.
(Pzzzzz, 2 February 2010 14:42)

Pzzzzz,

The term "happy fire" is not to be taken literally. It is police jargon we use to describe indiscriminate shooting in the air with no intended target. I agree it is not safe and should not be ignored, but it is not the same as shooting at someone nor is it worthy of a 30 day sentence.

The fighting with the KosovO police was stupid, and wrong. Again, I am not defending or condoning this incident, I am merely saying it is not as big a deal as some would make it out to be. As you point out, it has nothing to do with Albanians, and therefore has not to do with Pristina's desire to take over the north. Idiocy is idiocy, it does not always have to be political.

You have no right to try and govern an unwilling population. Everyone seems to know this excpet you guys.
(Jason, 1 February 2010 11:54)
Serbians keep saying this (which I agree with, everyone would be better if North went with Serbia) the hypocrisy is that none of you see this point for the Majority Albanian population in the South.

# Jason,

Now I understand why you like your job so much:
- payed well to do practically nothing.
- sitting in a warm room with a desktop and having hours and hours of free time being able to play the hot shot versus Albanians.
(Joe, 1 February 2010 21:40)

perfect, joe. way too much free time, way too much $$$ (euros) fr which tax payers?? way too much nastiness.

how much money? we need to know! war profiteering can be such an enriching experience, if you catch my drift.

roberto
frisco

Jason,

Please stop these biased and unworthy comments regarding "almost all bad EULEX members" from which you stick out as an exception.

If you care a bit about your mandate, provided you have the faintest idea, and you were not only sleeping during the induction training, think twice before writing.

I know you feel a big boy with your gibberish being applauded by the Serb camp. You display everything that an EULEX personnel must never do.

I strongly recommend you to go back home where you came from and advocate antisocial behaviour, favouritism to one ethnicity in your home community.

Shame on you.

Jason,

an absolute X to your answer.
I fear that sooner or later there will be a backblow against them,once upon a time a guy got very angry at them and look what happened twenty years later.
Roberto,be very cautious,this games you guys play by stirring up peoples against each other will backfire one day...

Jason - I hope you ARE from EULEX because then it would give me some faith that there are some people in the system who actually use their brains, integrity, logic and sense of moral judgement instead of just perpetuating the nonsense spewed out by the Western media and politicians.

Honestly, trying to make their Kosovo adventure and attack on Serbia anything other than an illegal nation building exercise is just a farce, even though it has all backfired on them.

Once thing that struck me during Bliar's recent Iraq Inquiry is that this guy, who has children of his own, didn't care a jot about the people or troops affected by his actions, whether in Iraq, Afghanistan or Serbia (or Britain). Most politicians are just the same - they think more about where their next holiday is going to be and how to spin themselves out of various holes than the effects of their actions.

He didn't even flinch while the mothers of dead soldiers were crying in the public gallery.

Roberto, how can you of all people support a province as thought it were your own home, when it has zero sense of equal or human rights?

Don't you know that in the UK we have actually taken in asylum seeklers on the basis of them being gay and unable to return to Kosovo for fear of being murdered?

Roberto, how can you of all people support a province as thought it were your own home, when it has zero sense of equal or human rights?

Don't you know that in the UK we have actually taken in asylum seeklers on the basis of them being gay and unable to return to Kosovo for fear of being murdered?
(kate, 2 February 2010 13:20)

kate -- i know your position on the equal rights of sexual minorities; i have acknowledged it before, and appreciate it. and i appreciate the fact that gr britain has (finally!!) taken progressive moves in that direction. that was surely not the case some years ago, not so very long ago. perhaps you are aware of that -- i am, all too painfully.

i have never claimed that the human rights situation in the balkans is peachy keen, far from it. i advocate for its improvement, and support all others who do likewise.

the situation for lgbt people in the balkans is not good; also in many other countries. i needn't go country by country in the former yu -- each is different, but the situation for lgbt persons is never good. probably better in the largest cities, with the most anonymity. we all know what just happened in serbia, so that can hardly be favorably compared with others. so much hatred and prejudice. we need to do way better.

the best chance for human rights is for independence of kosovo/a from the serbia. period. there will always be minority issues, and we will have to work on them. now and later.

but -- at least you speak to me like a human being. decently. that's saying a lot, from those on the other side of the aisle.

ciao.

roberto
frisco

Joey, Americans in EULEX are not paid by Brussels, rather by US taxpayers (that would be you). Since we are not an EU member state we are not contracted employees. I imagine you hate it, but I hate my tax dollars paying for us killing civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan.

...then again, I am exempt from paying taxes and have been for some time since I live overseas, so forget that last part.

Here is to you, buddy! Keep up the good work, pay your taxes, and my salary. Cheers.

Pzzz - Did they shoot anyone? Did they injure anyone? No.

Were the Kosovo police (who are not even recognised in the North) so strong to react when a teenager was stabbed on the bridge, or people were attacked and beaten? No. In every case the perpetrator 'escaped'.

When people stoned buses of Serbian civilians it was just 'high jinks' but in this case where nobody was injured people are arrested.

And if your son was being arrested by police who you knew to be biased, wouldn't you have reacted?

I can see Jason has been enjoying his time in Kosovo. I do not understand his pride in not working and doing his grad work in between B92 comments. Where is Ron to let him know his Duch taxes are well spend.

It's no immportance if you are Pro Serb or Albanian, but I do not understand about not doing work and then complaining that nothing has changed in past 11 years.

I just hope he does not go to next conflict were you are supposed to be Neutral and pick a side.

As per Serbian Flags flying in NKosovo why not Albanians should learn to tolerate that same as us flying Albanian Flag should not be issue at all.

Flying a flag of Serbia does not make it Serbia nor any other country.

We can see control of Kosovo is in NATO and KPS no arrest by MUP in kosovo in a long time.

Jason you are the worst instigator here same rank with KOSOVA-USA.

"Probably more than you, my friend. To top that off, you should know I earned my graduate degree while here - and a great deal of my studies involved arguing why NATO aggression against Yugoslavia was illegal"

Earn a degree and spending hours on B92 ...all this during working hours by being officially on the EU's payroll. Not bad. At least it is not on the US payroll.
As for the real worth of such a "graduate degree" of some questionable college? With that you sould be able to work for the Serbian Foreign Ministry. In reputable US firms your resume would not go too far.

I know you feel a big boy with your gibberish being applauded by the Serb camp. You display everything that an EULEX personnel must never do.

I strongly recommend you to go back home where you came from and advocate antisocial behaviour, favouritism to one ethnicity in your home community.

Shame on you.
(Hruz, 2 February 2010 15:15)

Bravo. I am glad that your comment went through.
If it would have been my comment it would have been censured for daring to critisize untouchable Jason.

Thanks Dan. I agree that people who dared speak out like Mackenzie deserve much respect, as did those fine Canadians who served under him.

"Probably more than you, my friend. To top that off, you should know I earned my graduate degree while here - and a great deal of my studies involved arguing why NATO aggression against Yugoslavia was illegal"
Replace the word probably with surely.

Jason people like you bring reality to the situation unlike the fly by night journalists who speel out ilk aimed at promoting their careers. General Lewis Mackenzie, Carlos Martins Branco etc all found the situation different on the ground compared to those in media reports. I was never so inspired and felt I could never give enough respect to the Canadian soldiers of the Princess Patricia 2nd Battalion and their efforts.
It is refreshing to see your comments and non sensational approach.

lol...Some people have their panties tied in a knot;)

Bilbao,

Let us not confuse not working by choice and not working because of politics. We worked in UNMIK, quite a bit I might say. The EU, as I have said before, seems to be a dog and pony show because when we want to do something we are told not to. This whole mission seems to be designed with some ulterior motives that have nothing to do with rule of law. Kosovo-USA is right (for once) because there is a lot of coffee drinking going on and no substance.

Don't worry, I got my degree before EULEX and did so on time off and on many static posts guarding bridges and such at 3am. It was not an ideal study environment and I should have waited for EULEX.
Either way, as I told Joe, if you complain about your tax dollars here, let's hear you complain about the infinite billions spent in Iraq, Afghanistan and Israel - where the definition of work there involves killing civilians.

...then again, I am exempt from paying taxes and have been for some time since I live overseas, so forget that last part.

(Jason, 2 February 2010 21:08)

Jason are you sure that is correct? My understanding is that no U.S. citizen is exempt from paying U.S. federal income tax because they reside overseas. You sure enjoy the benefits of certain exclusions and tax credits that those of us who live in the States don't but I don't think you are exempt unless I'm missing something.

PRN,

I fail to see how the arrest of several drunk Serbs is equivalent to taking over Serbian institutions in the north. The Serbian flags still fly everywhere, the univeristy, the hospital, and the various municipal agencies all are Serbian, as is the electricity provider, cable, phone, and postal service.

Keep dreaming that you Albanians will be in charge over 95% of the population. I can't wait to see your so-called army try to move north. KFOR would stop them to prevent them from being embarrassed and/or hurt.

You have no right to try and govern an unwilling population. Everyone seems to know this excpet you guys.

What only 48 hours? Deatin them for 30 days, these thugs action may harm more Serbs then it did in 2004, their only intentions is clearly to provoke the Albanian population.
(Pejoni, 1 February 2010 15:30)

They were not shooting AT anyone, genius. It is something we call "happy fire" and it is not typical to only Serbs. The fighting afterwards was drunken idiocy, and nothing to do with Albanians. You are a hypocrite if you say otherwise because I can list dozens of cases of Albanians being arrested for the EXACT SAME THING. You need to try harder if you want to make a mountain out of a molehill.

The plan for the integration of the North STARTED.

Duration: 10 Months

Funds: 4-10 Mil Euros.

To be implemented by: Kosovo government, in coordination with ICO and EULEX,

Forces to restore order: KFOR, Kosovo army, and KPS

Delays: it is estimated that there may be MAX 3-6 months delay

Arrests: widespread arrests of Criminals that do not respect Constitution of Kosovo, regardless nationality

Firts stage Strategy of K govenment: To open offices of the R epublic of Kosovo in the North, secure functionality of customs (port 1 & 31) and organize FREE elections

Waite, it must be, it fits perfectly well! Albanians can't stand UNMIK and you work for them meaning as every UNMIK official you don't like us and try to insult our government, our police force and everything that stands for Kosovo, haha I should have seen that one coming long time ago, Jason-UNMIK.
(Pejoni, 1 February 2010 17:24)

What the heck is this? How old are you man? 12?

PRN: "Arrests: widespread arrests of Criminals that do not respect Constitution of Kosovo, regardless nationality."

So not only were our taxes used to pummel Serbia, our former allies through 2 world wars; smash their infrastructure and heritage; terrorise their people and poison their land; but apparently they have also funded a fascist dictatorship.

I thought that Tony and Bill's savage attack was to force their version of democracy on people? Perhaps this is their version.

I hope that you have plenty of yellow paint ready, PRN, for that daubing of doors to identy where the Serbians and 'disloyal' Albanians live.

Now let's get real. Nothing can be forced on people when they live within their own state of Serbia, as recognised by the UN and majority of nations around the world.

Mr Feith and the ICO may be getting a tad frustrated and think they can stormtroop their way via the back door, but it isn't going to happen. Just recently the EU and Russia have both made it very clear that this is not something they will support.

Actually, if it wasn't for the risk of innocent people getting hurt, I would like to see them try.

What only 48 hours? Deatin them for 30 days, these thugs action may harm more Serbs then it did in 2004, their only intentions is clearly to provoke the Albanian population.

This case is not about some drunken Serbs.
I sugest you call your bodies in north and they will tell you the real story. I know it, so does every newspaper in Kosova/o, including names of arrested KP.
(Kosova-USA, 1 February 2010 12:42)

I know the case well, unlike you. It has nothing to do with Serbian institutions, instead, it involves the biggest joke in Europe: KPS. Yes, the same KPS who had an Albanian ROSU member arrested for the multi-million dollar jewel heist last fall, the same KPS who had a member involved in criminal activity in Pec when he was shot a few weeks back, and the same KPS that committed the Bill Clinton bombing. Be they Albanian or Serb, KPS is a joke and MUP should be policing the north.

All this said, the story has absolutely nothing, I repeat, nothing to do with your desire to take over areas north of the Ibar. Keep fantasizing though if it makes you feel better:)

A bullet fired from the gun can cause the same harm, no matter if it was “A happy fire” or a “Hostile fire”.

(Pzzz, 1 February 2010, 18:48)

Very astute observation. You get an A+. The point you and Peon missed entirely was that he called for the Serbs to be locked up for 30 days for shooting. Standard procedure for arrests of that nature where there is no intent to harm is arrest and release into general procedure. Nobody said "happy fire" is not a crime, I am merely pointing out your own people do it routinely too and the penalty is certainly not 30 days in jail. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds...

You have no right to try and govern an unwilling population. Everyone seems to know this excpet you guys.
(Jason, 1 February 2010 11:54)

This case is not about some drunken Serbs.
I sugest you call your bodies in north and they will tell you the real story. I know it, so does every newspaper in Kosova/o, including names of arrested KP.

Jason, do I see you somehow nervous with your statements? What is it about? The Strategy for the North!? Everybody knew that sooner or later that part would come under control.
I really can’t understand you protecting those criminals!! A bullet fired from the gun can cause the same harm, no matter if it was “A happy fire” or a “Hostile fire”.
You seem to be paid quite well to write on behalf of Serbian Camp in here, since as I can see you are the only one writing at least a dozen comments a day in here. Lucky you getting two salaries!!

They were not shooting AT anyone, genius. It is something we call "happy fire" and it is not typical to only Serbs. The fighting afterwards was drunken idiocy, and nothing to do with Albanians. You are a hypocrite if you say otherwise because I can list dozens of cases of Albanians being arrested for the EXACT SAME THING. You need to try harder if you want to make a mountain out of a molehill.
(Jason, 1 February 2010 15:53)

So you have to shoot AT someone befor getting cought, is that your definition of law and order? What kind of a joke organisation do you work for, seriously? KP is doing a pretty damn good job considering the small budget they operate under. In every law enforcement you'll find dirty cops sooner or later, yes even in EU, no Im not going to compare MUP.

This isnt the first time radical Serbs employed by MUP are acting violently in that particalur part of Mitrovica, yet you ignore that one and act as if you work for UNMIK who used to cover-up Serbian crimes. Waite, it must be, it fits perfectly well! Albanians can't stand UNMIK and you work for them meaning as every UNMIK official you don't like us and try to insult our government, our police force and everything that stands for Kosovo, haha I should have seen that one coming long time ago, Jason-UNMIK.

Now this is funny, last time it was Albanians shooting during a wedding party and the roles were completely reversed, ha ha ha…

Shooting in the air is common, even in big cities like Belgrade, but especially with the more rural regions.
(Matthew, 1 February 2010 18:18)

Exactly, yet some people like Peon or whatever his name is think that Albanians can do no wrong and Serbs are the devil incarnate. The rest of his post was too ignorant to even bother responding to, but I am glad you caught his hypocrisy.

Now this is funny, last time it was Albanians shooting during a wedding party and the roles were completely reversed, ha ha ha…

Shooting in the air is common, even in big cities like Belgrade, but especially with the more rural regions.

"for disturbing the peace and order" or rather endengaring the lives of others by shooting with AK47 at will.

Jason,

Now I understand why you like your job so much:
- payed well to do practically nothing.
- sitting in a warm room with a desktop and having hours and hours of free time being able to play the hot shot versus Albanians.

# Jason,

Now I understand why you like your job so much:
- payed well to do practically nothing.
- sitting in a warm room with a desktop and having hours and hours of free time being able to play the hot shot versus Albanians.
(Joe, 1 February 2010 21:40)

perfect, joe. way too much free time, way too much $$$ (euros) fr which tax payers?? way too much nastiness.

how much money? we need to know! war profiteering can be such an enriching experience, if you catch my drift.

roberto
frisco

Thanks Kate, and please know we are not all bad here in EULEX. After all, there are member states with huge contigents here like Romania who absolutely reject any idea of an independent Kosovo.

I have seen several other internationals here in this forum (though I don't know which organizations they work for) who echo my sentiments. Micheal Breathnach, Clive UK, and former employee here Mike all come to mind. It is encouraging to see other speak up too.

I have been following the Blair inquiry and I am also sickened by it. Its funny that so many remain silent though. Apparently crimes against humanity seem to be ok if those doing the killing are your allies in the US or UK. Ironic. Sickening.

Pzzz - Did they shoot anyone? Did they injure anyone? No.

Were the Kosovo police (who are not even recognised in the North) so strong to react when a teenager was stabbed on the bridge, or people were attacked and beaten? No. In every case the perpetrator 'escaped'.

When people stoned buses of Serbian civilians it was just 'high jinks' but in this case where nobody was injured people are arrested.

And if your son was being arrested by police who you knew to be biased, wouldn't you have reacted?

how much money? we need to know! war profiteering can be such an enriching experience, if you catch my drift.

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 2 February 2010 07:25)

Probably more than you, my friend. To top that off, you should know I earned my graduate degree while here - and a great deal of my studies involved arguing why NATO aggression against Yugoslavia was illegal, as is this entire experiment in Kosovo AND Metohija. It was enriching to use real life examples from the better part of the past decade.

If you worry about your tax dollars at work, I think you should be far more alarmed by the hundreds of millions given to your Israeli brethren to exterminate civilians in Gaza and West Bank, as well as billions of your tax dollars used to kill women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You rarely complain about that though... funny, isn't it?

I know you feel a big boy with your gibberish being applauded by the Serb camp. You display everything that an EULEX personnel must never do.

I strongly recommend you to go back home where you came from and advocate antisocial behaviour, favouritism to one ethnicity in your home community.

Shame on you.
(Hruz, 2 February 2010 15:15)

Bravo. I am glad that your comment went through.
If it would have been my comment it would have been censured for daring to critisize untouchable Jason.

"Probably more than you, my friend. To top that off, you should know I earned my graduate degree while here - and a great deal of my studies involved arguing why NATO aggression against Yugoslavia was illegal"

Earn a degree and spending hours on B92 ...all this during working hours by being officially on the EU's payroll. Not bad. At least it is not on the US payroll.
As for the real worth of such a "graduate degree" of some questionable college? With that you sould be able to work for the Serbian Foreign Ministry. In reputable US firms your resume would not go too far.

Pzzzzzz: "A bullet fired from the gun can cause the same harm, no matter if it was “A happy fire” or a “Hostile fire”."

And to all the others who are making such a big deal about the regional habit of shooting into the air, whether Serbian, Albanian, Macedonian or whoever.

Everyone knows that this is a common practise and of course it is (a) dangerous and (b) a crime. But viewing it in the same light as, or comparing it to, deliberately shooting at a person is just ridiculous.

Jason - I hope you ARE from EULEX because then it would give me some faith that there are some people in the system who actually use their brains, integrity, logic and sense of moral judgement instead of just perpetuating the nonsense spewed out by the Western media and politicians.

Honestly, trying to make their Kosovo adventure and attack on Serbia anything other than an illegal nation building exercise is just a farce, even though it has all backfired on them.

Once thing that struck me during Bliar's recent Iraq Inquiry is that this guy, who has children of his own, didn't care a jot about the people or troops affected by his actions, whether in Iraq, Afghanistan or Serbia (or Britain). Most politicians are just the same - they think more about where their next holiday is going to be and how to spin themselves out of various holes than the effects of their actions.

He didn't even flinch while the mothers of dead soldiers were crying in the public gallery.

Roberto, how can you of all people support a province as thought it were your own home, when it has zero sense of equal or human rights?

Don't you know that in the UK we have actually taken in asylum seeklers on the basis of them being gay and unable to return to Kosovo for fear of being murdered?

Roberto, how can you of all people support a province as thought it were your own home, when it has zero sense of equal or human rights?

Don't you know that in the UK we have actually taken in asylum seeklers on the basis of them being gay and unable to return to Kosovo for fear of being murdered?
(kate, 2 February 2010 13:20)

kate -- i know your position on the equal rights of sexual minorities; i have acknowledged it before, and appreciate it. and i appreciate the fact that gr britain has (finally!!) taken progressive moves in that direction. that was surely not the case some years ago, not so very long ago. perhaps you are aware of that -- i am, all too painfully.

i have never claimed that the human rights situation in the balkans is peachy keen, far from it. i advocate for its improvement, and support all others who do likewise.

the situation for lgbt people in the balkans is not good; also in many other countries. i needn't go country by country in the former yu -- each is different, but the situation for lgbt persons is never good. probably better in the largest cities, with the most anonymity. we all know what just happened in serbia, so that can hardly be favorably compared with others. so much hatred and prejudice. we need to do way better.

the best chance for human rights is for independence of kosovo/a from the serbia. period. there will always be minority issues, and we will have to work on them. now and later.

but -- at least you speak to me like a human being. decently. that's saying a lot, from those on the other side of the aisle.

ciao.

roberto
frisco

Jason,

Please stop these biased and unworthy comments regarding "almost all bad EULEX members" from which you stick out as an exception.

If you care a bit about your mandate, provided you have the faintest idea, and you were not only sleeping during the induction training, think twice before writing.

I know you feel a big boy with your gibberish being applauded by the Serb camp. You display everything that an EULEX personnel must never do.

I strongly recommend you to go back home where you came from and advocate antisocial behaviour, favouritism to one ethnicity in your home community.

Shame on you.

Joey, Americans in EULEX are not paid by Brussels, rather by US taxpayers (that would be you). Since we are not an EU member state we are not contracted employees. I imagine you hate it, but I hate my tax dollars paying for us killing civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan.

...then again, I am exempt from paying taxes and have been for some time since I live overseas, so forget that last part.

Here is to you, buddy! Keep up the good work, pay your taxes, and my salary. Cheers.

You have no right to try and govern an unwilling population. Everyone seems to know this excpet you guys.
(Jason, 1 February 2010 11:54)
Serbians keep saying this (which I agree with, everyone would be better if North went with Serbia) the hypocrisy is that none of you see this point for the Majority Albanian population in the South.

Jason,

an absolute X to your answer.
I fear that sooner or later there will be a backblow against them,once upon a time a guy got very angry at them and look what happened twenty years later.
Roberto,be very cautious,this games you guys play by stirring up peoples against each other will backfire one day...

Jason, I don’t see the point of linking me (my comment) with Peon’s statement. Bottom line, those people were drunk and armed and their shooting can in no way be called as a “happy fire”, but rather “Drunken Fire”. This is way it is not similar as other ‘regional habit of shooting into the air, whether Serbian, Albanian, Macedonian or whoever’, as Kate pointed out. Further, these guys attacked KosovA Police and to make it worse there were two Serb national police officers who tried to obstruct their colleagues in doing their work, and subsequently ended up in jail together with the other “happy” ones.
In this regard I simply can’t understand you protecting them. I’ve read many comments from you, and you appear to be way too biased.
(Pzzzzz, 2 February 2010 14:42)

Pzzzzz,

The term "happy fire" is not to be taken literally. It is police jargon we use to describe indiscriminate shooting in the air with no intended target. I agree it is not safe and should not be ignored, but it is not the same as shooting at someone nor is it worthy of a 30 day sentence.

The fighting with the KosovO police was stupid, and wrong. Again, I am not defending or condoning this incident, I am merely saying it is not as big a deal as some would make it out to be. As you point out, it has nothing to do with Albanians, and therefore has not to do with Pristina's desire to take over the north. Idiocy is idiocy, it does not always have to be political.

I can see Jason has been enjoying his time in Kosovo. I do not understand his pride in not working and doing his grad work in between B92 comments. Where is Ron to let him know his Duch taxes are well spend.

It's no immportance if you are Pro Serb or Albanian, but I do not understand about not doing work and then complaining that nothing has changed in past 11 years.

I just hope he does not go to next conflict were you are supposed to be Neutral and pick a side.

As per Serbian Flags flying in NKosovo why not Albanians should learn to tolerate that same as us flying Albanian Flag should not be issue at all.

Flying a flag of Serbia does not make it Serbia nor any other country.

We can see control of Kosovo is in NATO and KPS no arrest by MUP in kosovo in a long time.

Jason you are the worst instigator here same rank with KOSOVA-USA.

Jason,

Hope you are not from EULEX, because we are in deep...trouble then.

You are not paid to advocate failure of KP, but to convey your experience (if have brought any and you are not just a security guard at Walmart). If there is failure, it is partly yours, so don't brag about it.

On the other hand, would you call it a molehill when your kids are found shooting weapons on the street, then KP finding hand granade in their bedroom? When you come home and find Police doing their job, would you attack the crime scene investigators?

In this case I would hide forever in shame being a failure as a parent.

There is no excuse as it is normal in the Balkans to happy shoot and have an arms depot at home, whatever angle we look at. It is a shame in all societies, be it Albanian, Egyptian, Ashkali or Serbian.

"Probably more than you, my friend. To top that off, you should know I earned my graduate degree while here - and a great deal of my studies involved arguing why NATO aggression against Yugoslavia was illegal"
Replace the word probably with surely.

Jason people like you bring reality to the situation unlike the fly by night journalists who speel out ilk aimed at promoting their careers. General Lewis Mackenzie, Carlos Martins Branco etc all found the situation different on the ground compared to those in media reports. I was never so inspired and felt I could never give enough respect to the Canadian soldiers of the Princess Patricia 2nd Battalion and their efforts.
It is refreshing to see your comments and non sensational approach.

Jason, I don’t see the point of linking me (my comment) with Peon’s statement. Bottom line, those people were drunk and armed and their shooting can in no way be called as a “happy fire”, but rather “Drunken Fire”. This is way it is not similar as other ‘regional habit of shooting into the air, whether Serbian, Albanian, Macedonian or whoever’, as Kate pointed out. Further, these guys attacked KosovA Police and to make it worse there were two Serb national police officers who tried to obstruct their colleagues in doing their work, and subsequently ended up in jail together with the other “happy” ones.
In this regard I simply can’t understand you protecting them. I’ve read many comments from you, and you appear to be way too biased.

...then again, I am exempt from paying taxes and have been for some time since I live overseas, so forget that last part.

(Jason, 2 February 2010 21:08)

Jason are you sure that is correct? My understanding is that no U.S. citizen is exempt from paying U.S. federal income tax because they reside overseas. You sure enjoy the benefits of certain exclusions and tax credits that those of us who live in the States don't but I don't think you are exempt unless I'm missing something.

lol...Some people have their panties tied in a knot;)

Bilbao,

Let us not confuse not working by choice and not working because of politics. We worked in UNMIK, quite a bit I might say. The EU, as I have said before, seems to be a dog and pony show because when we want to do something we are told not to. This whole mission seems to be designed with some ulterior motives that have nothing to do with rule of law. Kosovo-USA is right (for once) because there is a lot of coffee drinking going on and no substance.

Don't worry, I got my degree before EULEX and did so on time off and on many static posts guarding bridges and such at 3am. It was not an ideal study environment and I should have waited for EULEX.
Either way, as I told Joe, if you complain about your tax dollars here, let's hear you complain about the infinite billions spent in Iraq, Afghanistan and Israel - where the definition of work there involves killing civilians.

Thanks Dan. I agree that people who dared speak out like Mackenzie deserve much respect, as did those fine Canadians who served under him.